July 17, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Winston Peters, Bryce McKenzie, Chris Brandolino, and Zoe Carter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I'm Jamie mccaughy. This is the Country, brought to you
by Brant to hell with the Country. Let's just listen
to Nickelback on a Nickelback Friday. This is rock star,
probably apt for our first guest, Winston Peters. Is he
more popular than he's ever been? Let's ask him. He's
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waiting on hold. Bryce mackenzie is the co founder of
ground Swell. He's been chewing my era, but this week
he wants a right to reply at the suggestion that
he's been barking at cars. When it comes to the
Paris Agreement, we might ask Winston about that one as well.
Chris Brandolino from neewa weather guy. Though they've got a
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new name, haven't they Earthed Sciences New Zealand or something?
I'm sure Chrystal Phillison on that one. The prospect of
more rain for an inundated tasmud Nelson region. It's heartbreaking
what's watching what's happening there. And those guys have got
a good week this week and hopefully for the next
few days. But will it last? Surely they can't get
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three in a row. And Zoe Carter a young Australian
agg influencer, and she is an influence the seven hundred
thousand followers, encouraging young Kiwis to get across the Tasman
not permanently, but head across for seeding and harvesting seasons.
If you want a job in agriculture, we're going to
give you a chance also to go fishing with Scott Barrett,
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the All Black Captain who will be on the show
on Monday we've got one more storm Force Parker from
Kywaker to give away. They're brilliant jackets and Scott will
announce our final winner on Monday's show. But we've got
a winner today from yesterday's show. More about that later.
So it's all on the country. Michelle will be in
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here with Rural News, will update sports news for you
as well, and I might even if we get time
because he's back on deck from his house husband duties.
Cousin Barry Sober can't promise you that one depends on
how long our first guest goes for. He's up next,
Winston Peters to kick off the country.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Everybody's gotta drug me a ask me now, I all
over your rocks dollars. We don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Sing no sound out of madness.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Man, go about my bills from a mass bend and
get faster up singers. Right now my sound let's beg.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Of eeron and the wadd'll get overrong. You know what
I like about this politician, Winston Peters, New Zealand first lead,
a former Deputy Prime Minister Foreign Affairs minister, is that
I don't have to send him questions in advance and
Winston Peters. You're the exception rather than the rule these days.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Well that's sad actually, because frankly, you know, if we
don't know the answer, we should say so and promise
to get back to you with it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
All right, you totally unscripted, You've got no idea what
I'm going to ask you. Here's my first question for you.
Are you more popular now than you've ever been since
He's Illen first was founded in nineteen ninety three the
Taxpayers Union Curier poll, And I know you don't like poles?
Has you sitting just under ten percent? You're ahead of
the Greens and Act.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
No, we were far more popular leading into the twenty
seventy in election, whereupon the Layerpe dropped this bundle and
change this leader, and then of course everybody had a
love fesce with the cinder and the Poles changed. Otherwise
we'd have gone to something. At that time we were
nineteen percent. At that time, we'd be heading for twenty
five percent, So you know, anything's possible.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Do you ever run across Bill English these days? Have
you said sorry, Bill, I got it wrong in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
No, I didn't even say that to Bill when I
saw him, because when I first talked to him straight
after the twenty seventy election, he took me aside to
say this. They said they're going to roll me, but
they haven't got the numbers. And I'm sitting here thing
than myself. Here I am. It's nine ninety six on
talking to Jim Bolger, but they've got a plan on
to roll them and play with Jenny Shipley. That's the
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kind of nightmare I's facing and the National Party knows it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Talking about New Zealand First current popularity and a bit
of it has to do with your performance to be
fair on the world stage as Foreign Affairs Minister. But
Shane Jones is a populist, There's no doubt about it.
He gets stuck into lizards and blind frogs and we
all like that. He's a bit non PC, very entertaining.
What about Stuart Nash, He was on the show last
week basically auditioning for a role in the New Zealand
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First Party. Are you going to give him a call?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Well, actually, somebody who have paid that back to me
and I don't understand it to be an audition at all.
He was just giving you his frank views well, what's the.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Answer to my question though? Are you going to give
him a call?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
No, you have manufactured from that discussion with them and
out come, and to think I'm going to spare for it.
This is not my first rodeo.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Where have I heard that before? But he plainly wants
to be in New Zealand first MP. Politically, he sits
in the right slot for you guys, because I always
thought he was a bit far to the right for
the Labor Party, even though his great grandfather was a
Labor Prime minister. I think him and Shane Jones would
be a great one to two punch for New Zealand. First.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, Stuart's not too part of the right. Stuart is
a very practical, grounded politician, like the old Labor Party
was when they got out there to build New Zealand
and build in perstruction, did all sorts of things, and
then they went woke. In more recent times, set after
Helen Clark, they went totally work and they're not recognizable
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from what they used to be. That's why Stuart's got
no place. It's called over the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, I'll take that as a yes. When is he
announcing his candidacy.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Now? There's two statements. You're just made, not based on
what I said. But what do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Now?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Look, as I keep on saying in foreign affairs, please
don't listen to people who tell you what they want
to happen. Listen to people who think they know what
might happen. It's a big difference.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Talking about the Taxpayers Union, I talked about their poll.
They've come out with a league table for local body rates.
Now this is awful reading top ten cumulative rate increases
over the past three years has led by the West
Coast Regional Council at sixty five point five to seven
percent on an annual basis. The Cliff of District Council
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just down the road from me's leading the charge at
sixteen and a half percent. Is the government right to
try and cap or kneecap these local bodies?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yes, the governmentor is right, But when they make those
stamens they should be seeing themselves. But what is our
record where we shown the efficiency of the public service
delivery and accountability for money. I can give you countless
cases of government wet So I have sent to some
of my colleagues before you preach to them and get
your own house and order or you know the old
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Depton doctor here thyself. You know I'm talking about Wanganui.
Why who's got to stand out? Record last race rise
two point two percent? That's what we need strifle. But
then Wanan who hasn't gone out there and put cycle
ways everywhere? Shut down? Cars shut the city down like
an Upland and Willington. Do you see what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh well, I like our cycleway in Dunedin.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well you might like your cycle but the needan's flat
one's lot.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, Dunedin's very much I don't know when the last
time you were here. Winston it's very much like Wellington.
It's a harbor city. It's a hell city. But we
do have a wonderful cycle way around the harbor and
that is flat. Yeah, I agree. Okay, look, let let's
move on from that. I want to talk about rates.
Should rates be or attax on wealth or should they
actually just be use the pace? If you want to
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go to the library or the swimming pool, you pay
for it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Well, there are combinations of what you're saying that are correct.
But I go back to two thousand and two. It's
a long way they go and a guy called Shanda
a report on the local government and he made a
whole lot of recommendations. What he was saying was that
simple governor's loading local governor with all sorts of things
they're not cap of doing and just passing on to
the rate paars. And because there's a wall between the
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right pars and the government and they can bring the
local government. That's what they've done. We need to properly
reform all sectors of our government.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
A couple tore quickly finish Sean. We're going to be
speaking to Bryce McKenzie, shortly co founder of Groundswell. He
wants us out of the Paris Agreement. Where does New
Zealand First sit as opposed to the coalition because the
Prime Minister said to me on Wednesday the Coalition was
totally supportive of us staying in the Paris Agreement. But
where does New Zealand First sit and what are you
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going to campaign on.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
We were the first ones that came out a long
time ago and said this, almost sixty percent of emissions
are coming out of China, India, Russia and the United States.
What we do is like a sneeze in the middle
of the night compared to the rest of them, and
nothing we can do can change that. So please, we said,
let's re examine what the Paris Accord was about. And
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remember specifically it was to if we had out from
the accord food growing or in primary production in the
sense that we know that coming forward for the next
thirty thirty five years will need thirty to thirty five
percent more food. This is a critical area, but it
was in general. First has said let's re examine why
we did this in the first place, because I said,
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at the time when the National Party went off with
Paula Bennett the two Paris and sign up to the accord,
they had no idea what they're signing up to.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So take that as a yes.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Of course, it's a yes. I'm saying that we have
got to re examine and look at the matter and
say to New Zealanders and in fact all of the world, say,
how can we make a difference when China's emissions are
above thirty percent?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, I'm not arguing with you on that one. One
to finish on this is from me. I'm hot under
the collar about this one. Carbon farming, the folly of
carbon farming, blanket planting, productive farmland as is happening out
there as we speak, when we're getting record prices for
red meat. As an exam, surely we should be growing food,
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not pine trees.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, I agree with the entirely, but when you say
not pine trees, no, we should be growing native, long
term native trees. Pine tree forests are just a desert underfoot.
If you go into a pines forest, there's nothing there.
Now we want native forest built, and we're in a
bill of we're going to plant a billionum native forest.
Plus we're actually preserving agricultural land. That's precisely our policy,
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and thank you for supporting it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, you've changed your tune a bit from twenty seventeen
when your henchman Shane was running around planting a billion
pine trees.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Well, well we were playing a billion trees, not just
pine trees, but we got out of hand. There should
have been balanced there.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So are you rewriting history here once?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Then?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
No, I'm not rewriting history. I at the time was
center Shane. We need to be climbing both sorts of
trees and some of them will last three hundred, four
hundred years, but it's part of the cleaning up of museums, pollution.
If I go to Scandinavia, I can't see a waterway
until I I'm flying HERBD on a helicopter or a plane.
Why because they've got to feed all down the sides
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of the banks of the rivers and what have you.
It's spectacular. And you know something, they're way ahead of
us in terms of all aspects of the economy, and
they're twice as rich as we are, and maybe they've
got some lessons to teach us. Meanwhile, of course they
are serious about a cultural production. But when they talk
about that culture production, here's a difference between the National
Party and others in New Zealand. First, we want the
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added value to happen in New Zealand, not offshore.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Winston Peters, thanks for your time. So there's a bit
of bark left in the old dog, isn't there at
eighty years of age, going better than ever.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't know what you mean by that. I just
think nasty.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean it wasn't nasty, it was just fact.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Sure. If Donald regular say I will not use my
complain about my opponent's youth and inexperience, if they stopped
talking about my wisdom.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And age, Well, bless you, thanks for your time, Thank you,
thank you. Winston on a nickelback Friday, is there a
rock star? I know? I think him and Shane. I've
never contemplated voting New Zealand first, but on careful Jamie,
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Hello Michelle. Oh well, honestly, Shane scratches a lot of
itches for me. Admittedly I'm not a skinker, a lizard
or a blind frog. I'm not getting in his way
when he's digging it up. Baby dig, baby dig. But
they're trying to talk about of common sense. Interesting comments.
They are from Winston on Paris, so his position is
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vastly different to that of the Coalition. But we were talking,
or we did refer to Michelle the League Table on
Local Government rates that's put out by the Taxpayers Union
and your home patch. The Kluther District Council is leading
the charge for the top ten rate increases for this
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year sixteen point five nine percent. Now, as you drive
through the wonderful town of Bealcluther, as I do a
lot when I'm heading down to Southland, You've got that
big new woke building right by the river there. It's
where the district council hel Houns is itself, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
No, the district council is still up the hell I
think Jamish.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So they haven't built a grand palace for themselves.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
No, No, this is like a grand palace for a
eats and things like that. It's pretty impressive. It's got
a movie theater inside it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, I'm pleased, but can you afford it? Kluther District Council.
Your rates up sixteen point five nine percent this year.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
It's nice to have something nice and shiny in the
main street, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I see the Dunedin City Council, my Goddyna, how to
waste money there? They're nowhere to be seen in the
top ten for rates increases. When it comes to the
cumulative rate increases, as I said to Winston West Coast
Regional Council, sixty five point five percent cumulative over the
last three years. Wellington Regional Council surprise, surprise, fifty four
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point sixty seven. Taranak Regional Council, who I always thought
were one of the better ones, to be perfectly honest,
fifty percent or fifty one percent. Queenstown they've got growth
problems there fifty percent and it's just it's getting out
of hand, getting out of hand Radio up next? Has
he been barking at cars when it comes to the
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Paris Agreement. We're going to talk to Bryce mackenzie, who's
been chewing my heir this week for a right of reply,
and we're going to tell you also how you can
win a storm Force Parker on Monday's show. There worth
four or five hundred bucks. They are brilliant and Scott
Barrett will announce who the winner is because he's going
to be on Monday's show. But we'll do that a
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wee bit later because I've got to go to Bryce.
Apparently he's got to go somewhere at twelve thirty. So
Bryce McKenzie up next on the Country, bego Maren and
the wadd'll get.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well. We are just don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Willia this photograph, Hath.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We love your feedback here on the Country, and I've
been getting plenty this week from this man. His name
is Bryce McKenzie, co founder of Groundswell.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think on Wednesday's show I got a text from
a guy by the name of Glenn who said, Jamie,
when are you going to give your mate Bryce McKenzie
an uppercut over his misinformation about Paris. The PM just
told us the truth, and this obviously followed Wednesday's interview
with Prime Minister Christopher Luxen. Glenn goes on to write,
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leaving Paris will make all of us farmers poorer by
about two dollars a kilogram.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I reckon.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I assume he's talking about milk solid price there. He
may well be talking about meat as well. Who knows. Okay,
Bryce McKenzie, we're going to give you the writer reply.
Have you been barking at cars over Paris?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
This is probably a little bit like that, Jamie, How
are you listeners? This is an interesting one from Glenn.
Isn't because he's accusing us of misinformation. That's spreading misinformation.
But see Brent's come up with this figure of two
dollars of kilogram milk solids?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Sorry? Bryce, who's Brent?
Speaker 9 (17:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Sorry, Glenn?
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I apologize.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well, you're spreading you're spreading misinformation, defaming bread. Carry on.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I am well, I don't know where he gets this
two dollars from, because the last time I looked, the
sixty odd countries that go under the Global dairy trade
and some of them are cell milk on that as well,
so as he suggesting that the global dairy trade is
going to drop two dollars a kilogram. And if he's
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talking about meat right now, I mean Americas just can't
get enough of our beef anyway, and they're pulling out
of the Paris Accords, so I don't think they're going
to boycott buying our meat.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Well, okay, well, let's add some context to this. As
far as I'm aware, the old Trump sy Yeah, he's
going to get out of Paris, but he does things
differently than most world leaders. The other countries pulling out
are Libya, Yemen, Iran, Eritrea, and South Sudan. So we're
in with some rippers there bryce if we do pull out.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Yeah, but the other ones aren't honoring it, Jamie. I
mean there's one hundred and ninety four countries signed into it.
They were supposed to have their targets in Paris a court,
and of course there's only fifteen countries that had put
them in. So I mean other ones aren't playing their
part anyway, Jamie said, what is the point in it
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if all the countries have signed into it aren't doing anything.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, it appears that we're not going to meet our
commitments by twenty thirty anyhow.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Yes, And that's the other thing, because you know, I
think the Taxpayers Union did some sort of costing on
it and come up with twenty four billion if we
miss out, which the government said we're not going to
pay anyway. But if you take that into consideration, who's
going to pay that anyway? How much a kilogram of
milk is that going to cost us? Or a kilogram
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for meat?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Is that Taxpayers Union the same outfit the funds.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
You worsh if they can you get them to send
us some money, Jamie, because we're a bit strap case
case strap case.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
So there's no there's no connection between the Taxpayers Union
and Groundswell.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Well, we're getting off subject, but a little yes, like
when we first started, Jordan Williams contacted and said could
we he do as social media and yes he did
do it for something like two and a half years,
but no he doesn't do that now. So there's no
contact with the Taxpayers Union.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
See Bryce, I tipped my hat to you guys at
ground Swell. You and Lourie, I mean, you didn't really
want to do this, but you took up the challenge
under an awful labor government that was completely shafting farming.
I think you made the industry good bodies buck up
and take a harder line. I think all done you
for that, But now are you effectively redundant? To be
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fair to this government? I don't think they could do
much more for farming.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Well, look, they have done a lot of god and
you can't take that away from them. Jay, that there's
still things that are sneaking through. And look, you look
at some of the adverse effects of Paris Accord, and
I mean there's a lot of them, and they're not
just skeermongering and that they're actually happening. And you know,
there's a lot of food producing land, detrimental impacts on
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rural communities, profound and irreversible effects on landscapes, increased poor
water quality, lots of indigenous biodiversity, increased fire risk, and
you can go on and on and on.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Now, what do you say to people like Federated Farmer's
President Wayne Langford. Our write as a bloke, and I
think he's a fairly level headed sort of character. He
said he's sat in rooms with dairy company leaders who
have said and you're a dairy farmer, Bryce, who have
said it could shave as much as three dollars a
kilogram of milk solids off the dairy price. So why
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would we even be talking about it. That is a
quote from Wayne Langford.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, look, Jamie, we're not saying there may not be
any adjustment. Maybe there is, but we're dying a death
by a thousand cuts anyway with the Paris Agreement, So
why are we staying in there? And anyway, how can
they say that there's been no cost analysis done on
the being in or out of Paris? So these are
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just figures that are being plucked out of the year
and it's all part of just gearmongering.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Okay, Bryce, On that note, I'll better go. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Okay, Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It is twenty eight away from one. Thanks Bryce. Yeah,
Bryce has been chewing my ear for a writ of reply.
Someone else is chewing my hair on the text line, Michelle,
are you are such an arrogant person? Mackay, I could
be offended by that? Now what the text does have
to realize? Look, I'm up for a bit of abuse,
probably deserve it. But we also have a record of
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every other text you've ever sent us, so we kind
of get a feel texture for your tone this person, Dares.
I won't say where Dares is from. Dares, I know
where you're from. He's also said, who cares about Global
Running Day? That was your initiative, Michelle. You shouldn't have
introduced that commentary into the show. No, I've taken note
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because Dares didn't like Global Running Day. Let's see some
of it. Dares's other comments kick McCullum out of parliament.
He's such a muppet, poor old Grant mcnational. Todd McClay
showed just what a horrible little man you are, mackay
as he wasn't putting O'Connor down. Don't be a gutless
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bastard and stop playing that ad from Dares. I think
that refers to the ad from was that from the
safe ad, which we have no control over. Dares, you're
not being fair. You're not being fair at all days
and I'm up for a bit of abuse. But if
you really hate it that much, Dares, there's a thing
on your radio called a dial, change it. Because I
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notice you're a regular enter entry also or an enterer
into our competition, so you can't have it both ways, DearS,
Sorry about that. Up next are we going to chat
to what are you shaking your head? It's a Nickelback Friday.
It's the music anyhow. Up next we are going to
chat to Chris Brandoleno. Do we figure out what Newa's
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new name was, Earth Sciences, New Zealand Earth Sciences, New Zealand.
He's up next, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Sense something and this is up you remind me.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
This is I don't think Nickelback were that bad. Really,
Michelle's shaking her head again. Chris Brandolino. I was going
to say from newe But he's got a new name,
Earth Sciences, New Zealand. Where you and Nickelback? And Chris,
let me turn your fader up. Yeah, I can live
with it. But a Nicolas Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Do you know how they got their name Nickelback?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
No, tell me.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I believe one of the band members is working in
a coffee shop, and I think in the States and
oftentimes because of the price of a popular coffee whatever,
it'll be five cents change to the customer and here's
your Nickelback.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, what a great story, the story behind the making
of a great band. I'll get in trouble for that one.
Dares will probably rip into me for that one as well.
We are going to talk very quickly because I haven't
got much time that I've wasted too much time getting
stuck into DearS. Sorry Dares, but it cuts both ways.
I just want to talk to you about that, especially
that the Tasman Nelson region forecast in the future of
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more rain events for them. It's so disheartening watching what
they've gone through and the fact that they could have
another major reign event. Please tell me you forecasters have
got it wrong.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well, we've been working with Matt subs and seven briefing
MPI and the likes, and well, if the good news
is at the next seven to maybe ten days, we'll
say at least a week very dry, hardly any rain.
So that's really good news. The not so good news,
as you were talking about, there are some pretty I guess,
reliable indications that as we emerge into the last we'll
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call it the last few days of that final week
of July, so you know, twenty seventh, twenty eighth, twenty ninth,
somewhere around there, that'll likely be a time when we'll
start to see low pressure emerging in the Tasman and
if that happens, it'll tap into tropical moisture sent it
our way. So yeah, there isn't Now I would describe
it as elevated odds for a significant rain late July
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into early August. Now exactly where I mean, it's too
far away, but certainly at the top of the South Island.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They're in that conversation, Hey, what other regions need to
look out for greater than average rine? For instance South
when my home pitch is enjoying a wonderful winter. Thus
fab but I say there on the right ahahola on
average rine fall as well.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, well for the next through September the season. On
Climate Outlook, we're highlighting the top of both islands, so
the Waikato Bay of plenty Auckland, Northland and the top
of the South Island. Those are the areas most likely
to have above normal rainfall. It's actually worked out that way.
All other areas have above normal rainfall. Lean we're not
quite a bit of uncertainty, so we're saying normal or
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above normal and actuality, the west of the South Island,
including Lovely Southland, we're thinking normal or below normal rainfall. Now,
keep in mind even normal below. It doesn't mean it
won't rain, just means that rainfall is expected to be
where it should be or less than it should be.
So a wetter than usual period through the end of
September looks pretty darn unlikely for the likes of Southland,
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Interior Otago as well as the west of the South Island.
So I think they'll get some rain maybe in that
period late in July, but for the next seven to
ten days it looks pretty dry there. And going farther
beyond Jamie, the west of the South Island, including Southland
in the Lower South Island, that's an area we're going
to have to watch for dryness as we work through spring.
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So we're going pretty far out now working through spring
and for the rest of the calendar year. We're expecting
more east to northeast winds and if that eventuates, that
does not favor rainfall, so that could be something that
could come back to bite us later this calendar.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Okay, you can hear knickelback.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Time to go.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Thank you, Chris Brandolino from Earth suns, Z and Z.
See there we go right bang on twenty one away
from one. We're going to take a break, get our
acts together and give you a rural news and sports
news before the end of the hour. Zoe Carter, Ossie
Egg influencers seven hundred thousand followers, women in eighteen from
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one some of your feedback coming in Das don't be
a Karen. I like that, love you work afternoon. Jamie
Scotsman's valley here in the way Katow has received three
hundred and forty five mills of rain in the last
six weeks. Very wet, says Ray. Here's another. Noel says
I'd vote for New Zealand first if he guaranteed not
(28:14):
to go with the looney Left. Well, he's guaranteed not
to go with Chippy, but Chippy's not guaranteed to be
the labor leader heading into the election. Interesting times. Stuart
Nash n Z First MPa, what do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Here?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
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Speaker 8 (28:48):
Yeah thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
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I'm sure that you'll enjoy that jacket.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I know he needs it if he's in Scotsman's Valley.
Three hundred and forty five mills in the last six weeks.
Brilliant jackets. Those. So we've got one more to give
away on Friday Monday.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
No, we've got two more to give away with the
final prime.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think we've got one for Monday, haven't we No,
so two more with the final Damn, damn, I've been
spreading false information.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Sorry about that, Well, technically we are. We have got two.
But it's part of the fishing the fishing trip.
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Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, go fishing with Scott Barrett and you can win
the two Kywalker Storm Force Park as they are brilliant.
Believe you me. We're some great feedback coming in today.
Really appreciate. But we better keep moving because I said
odd chapters at twelve thirty, I'm way behind time. Zoe
Carter up next on the country You remind me?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
This is how you remind me.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Sport with an AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I am having a shock at today I forgot the
sport carried away with Scott. Let's see what's happening our
world Rugby. This is Tony Brown. I blame Tony Brown.
World Rugby has worn South Africa and other teams that
trying to manipulate a kickoff into a scrum won't be tolerated.
The spring Box deliberately chipped short and regathered to open
their second test against Italy last week, provoking debate around
(30:43):
the move's legal and moral merits. Any further incidents will
see a penalty issued under Law nine point seven, which
governs foul or unfair play and monngeur Rasa said they
admitted in Italy when he was coaching. They kicked that
out on the four to get a scrum on interesting times.
Up next, Zoe Parker. Where do I get that from?
(31:04):
Let's try Zoe Carter?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
You are.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
What is an influencer? Anyone can be an influencer these days.
I talked to a few influencers here on the country.
One of them is a young Australian woman by the
name of Zoe Carter. I spoke to her on January
the twenty fourth of this year, and I just looked
back on the text. Zoe, it said, you're a dynamic,
young Australian AG influencer with seven hundred thousand followers, a
(31:34):
businesswoman who has a boundless passion for farming. Does that
still hold true? What six months later?
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Good afternoon, Yes, I'd say it still holds true.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, good on you. Hey, just give us just remind
us a wee bit about your background, because you grew
up in the city, went out worked on a farm,
you had a bad accident I think, or something something
befell you, if that's the correct word, and then you
had to change course.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
Yeah, pretty much. That's a good summary. I've got to
grow up in the city and never really saw agg
as a career pathway until after I crashed by a
horse and then thought I can't keep doing this. So
I don't know if eggs much better, but did that
for a few years.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I loved it.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
My body just couldn't keep up with me. Unfortunately, with
my past injuries, I've had a hit replacement at twenty five.
So now I work a little bit more behind the scenes.
I'd say more of an advocate for the egg industry
rather than an influenza because I get a bit touchy
about about that one. And then you run three businesses
alongside all that as well.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, okay your businesses are you? One of your businesses
and website called Agriculture Jobs as wide, so you connect
people who are looking for a job in Australia and
New Zealand with a job an egg.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Yeah pretty much. So we're a job sports so we
don't do any of the screening, not a recruitment agency,
but focus on pairing up Penman Australian residents and New
Zealand citizens because New Zealand citizens have the same working
right So there's a lot of Australians do, so pairing
up those kinds of people with positions and helping them
make it easier to find them. So I guess all
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the jobs ideally are in one place, so it just
makes a lot easier people looking. So we focus on
every ad job in Australia that's available, no matter your
experience level. We have no first year opportunities all up
to quite high level management.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
So Zoe, are you being flooded with key weekendidates because
we've had a net migration loss of thirty thousand New
Zealanders to Australia and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
Yeah, Look, I do notice that there is quite a
lot of New Zealanders applying for roles, especially to dairy positions,
especially manager roles. Like we obviously, Australia is bigger in size,
much bigger, the properties are bigger. We tend to have
more opportunities for you know, workers and things like that,
Whereas I find a lot of like you know, for example,
Victoria is a lot of smaller farms where a lot
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lot of it's family runs, so they don't really have
as many opportunities for work, Whereas you know, you get
to elsewhere, and there's that many opportunities and that many
areas where you can extend your career. I can see
why New Zealanders are coming over, But yeah, I have
I feel like I've seen a job in Canada's applying
for jobs being New Zealanders looking for opportunities in Australia.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I want to ask you about worker exploitation. Not only
key we work as ossie workers, imported workers or foreign workers.
Australia's Fair Work on Birdsman Inspectors found that more than
eighty percent of horticultural businesses and parts of Victoria were
in breach of laws to protect workers following a three
(34:35):
year investigation. Is it that bad?
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Yeah, look that situation, I'm not overly familiar with it. Again,
we focus on permanent signed residents, so we're not really
working with the visa holders and sponsorships, which unfortunately are
commonly exploited in the industry. That's one of the reasons
they're quite favored in a lot of a lot of roles. So, yeah,
(35:00):
does happen. Unfortunately, there's a lot of things coming into place,
like there's a few businesses that are kind of rising up,
going right, we need to see better you know, circumstances
and the things like modern day slavery as well as
another one that you know, does a do see pop up?
So it is very dependent. It's not an area of
expertise for us, but yeah, it is. It does happen
a lot, unfortunately, but it is improving for any young key.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
We was listening to this and hopefully they're not going
to migrate across the Tasman Oi's one thing. Staying over
there as another one. What are the red flags to
look out for when you're looking for a job an egg?
Speaker 9 (35:33):
Oh, look, there's there's quite a few. If you know
anyone local to the area that you're going to be
traveling to. I definitely recommend reaching out to locals and
seeing if you know, there's any reviews back for them,
even just googling their name and the business name and
seeing if anything pops up. You know, just you know,
housing conditions, asking you know, what the house is like,
if there's any photos, because obviously traveling across you know,
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across quite a long way can be a little bit
daunting if the communications very short, if they don't want
to mention pay rates or you know, talking about you know,
when you're going for a position, you know, you need
to understand what the benefits of perks are. You know,
you are entitled to know that, so asking those questions
and if they get a little bit touchy about it,
you know, it's probably a little bit of a red flag.
(36:17):
And then you know, again it is hard until you
get over there. But things like your stock condition and temperament,
keep your stock are in poor nick or they you
know they're very flighty, very on edge cattle or sheep,
you know, highly likely. You know it's probably may not
be the best environment. And you know, you know, machinery conditions,
if everything's kind of falling apart, not well maintained and
looked after. I see that as a bit of a
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bit of a red flag. But it is it is
hard to really note before you come over that. A
lot of it's just research.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Zobe Karte out of Australia. Thanks for time today on
the Country.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Good on your Zoe. Now next week on the Country
Innovation Week, we've got some great interviews lined up thanks
to herd Eye. Will tell you more about that one
next week, but after the break we're going to wrap
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I'm Jamie mccaughy. This is the Country, brought to you
by Brant to hell with the Country. Let's just listen
to Nickelback on a Nickelback Friday. This is rock star,
probably apt for our first guest, Winston Peters. Is he
more popular than he's ever been? Let's ask him. He's
(01:14):
waiting on hold. Bryce mackenzie is the co founder of
ground Swell. He's been chewing my era, but this week
he wants a right to reply at the suggestion that
he's been barking at cars. When it comes to the
Paris Agreement, we might ask Winston about that one as well.
Chris Brandolino from neewa weather guy. Though they've got a
(01:36):
new name, haven't they Earthed Sciences New Zealand or something?
I'm sure Chrystal Phillison on that one. The prospect of
more rain for an inundated tasmud Nelson region. It's heartbreaking
what's watching what's happening there. And those guys have got
a good week this week and hopefully for the next
few days. But will it last? Surely they can't get
(01:59):
three in a row. And Zoe Carter a young Australian
agg influencer, and she is an influence the seven hundred
thousand followers, encouraging young Kiwis to get across the Tasman
not permanently, but head across for seeding and harvesting seasons.
If you want a job in agriculture, we're going to
give you a chance also to go fishing with Scott Barrett,
(02:23):
the All Black Captain who will be on the show
on Monday we've got one more storm Force Parker from
Kywaker to give away. They're brilliant jackets and Scott will
announce our final winner on Monday's show. But we've got
a winner today from yesterday's show. More about that later.
So it's all on the country. Michelle will be in
(02:44):
here with Rural News, will update sports news for you
as well, and I might even if we get time
because he's back on deck from his house husband duties.
Cousin Barry Sober can't promise you that one depends on
how long our first guest goes for. He's up next,
Winston Peters to kick off the country.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Everybody's gotta drug me a ask me now, I all
over your rocks dollars. We don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Sing no sound out of madness.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Man, go about my bills from a mass bend and
get faster up singers. Right now my sound let's beg.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Of eeron and the wadd'll get overrong. You know what
I like about this politician, Winston Peters, New Zealand first lead,
a former Deputy Prime Minister Foreign Affairs minister, is that
I don't have to send him questions in advance and
Winston Peters. You're the exception rather than the rule these days.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Well that's sad actually, because frankly, you know, if we
don't know the answer, we should say so and promise
to get back to you with it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
All right, you totally unscripted, You've got no idea what
I'm going to ask you. Here's my first question for you.
Are you more popular now than you've ever been since
He's Illen first was founded in nineteen ninety three the
Taxpayers Union Curier poll, And I know you don't like poles?
Has you sitting just under ten percent? You're ahead of
the Greens and Act.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
No, we were far more popular leading into the twenty
seventy in election, whereupon the Layerpe dropped this bundle and
change this leader, and then of course everybody had a
love fesce with the cinder and the Poles changed. Otherwise
we'd have gone to something. At that time we were
nineteen percent. At that time, we'd be heading for twenty
five percent, So you know, anything's possible.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Do you ever run across Bill English these days? Have
you said sorry, Bill, I got it wrong in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
No, I didn't even say that to Bill when I
saw him, because when I first talked to him straight
after the twenty seventy election, he took me aside to
say this. They said they're going to roll me, but
they haven't got the numbers. And I'm sitting here thing
than myself. Here I am. It's nine ninety six on
talking to Jim Bolger, but they've got a plan on
to roll them and play with Jenny Shipley. That's the
(05:01):
kind of nightmare I's facing and the National Party knows it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Talking about New Zealand First current popularity and a bit
of it has to do with your performance to be
fair on the world stage as Foreign Affairs Minister. But
Shane Jones is a populist, There's no doubt about it.
He gets stuck into lizards and blind frogs and we
all like that. He's a bit non PC, very entertaining.
What about Stuart Nash, He was on the show last
week basically auditioning for a role in the New Zealand
(05:29):
First Party. Are you going to give him a call?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Well, actually, somebody who have paid that back to me
and I don't understand it to be an audition at all.
He was just giving you his frank views well, what's the.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Answer to my question though? Are you going to give
him a call?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
No, you have manufactured from that discussion with them and
out come, and to think I'm going to spare for it.
This is not my first rodeo.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Where have I heard that before? But he plainly wants
to be in New Zealand first MP. Politically, he sits
in the right slot for you guys, because I always
thought he was a bit far to the right for
the Labor Party, even though his great grandfather was a
Labor Prime minister. I think him and Shane Jones would
be a great one to two punch for New Zealand. First.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, Stuart's not too part of the right. Stuart is
a very practical, grounded politician, like the old Labor Party
was when they got out there to build New Zealand
and build in perstruction, did all sorts of things, and
then they went woke. In more recent times, set after
Helen Clark, they went totally work and they're not recognizable
(06:31):
from what they used to be. That's why Stuart's got
no place. It's called over the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, I'll take that as a yes. When is he
announcing his candidacy.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Now? There's two statements. You're just made, not based on
what I said. But what do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Now?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Look, as I keep on saying in foreign affairs, please
don't listen to people who tell you what they want
to happen. Listen to people who think they know what
might happen. It's a big difference.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Talking about the Taxpayers Union, I talked about their poll.
They've come out with a league table for local body rates.
Now this is awful reading top ten cumulative rate increases
over the past three years has led by the West
Coast Regional Council at sixty five point five to seven
percent on an annual basis. The Cliff of District Council
(07:18):
just down the road from me's leading the charge at
sixteen and a half percent. Is the government right to
try and cap or kneecap these local bodies?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yes, the governmentor is right, But when they make those
stamens they should be seeing themselves. But what is our
record where we shown the efficiency of the public service
delivery and accountability for money. I can give you countless
cases of government wet So I have sent to some
of my colleagues before you preach to them and get
your own house and order or you know the old
(07:49):
Depton doctor here thyself. You know I'm talking about Wanganui.
Why who's got to stand out? Record last race rise
two point two percent? That's what we need strifle. But
then Wanan who hasn't gone out there and put cycle
ways everywhere? Shut down? Cars shut the city down like
an Upland and Willington. Do you see what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh well, I like our cycleway in Dunedin.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well you might like your cycle but the needan's flat
one's lot.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, Dunedin's very much I don't know when the last
time you were here. Winston it's very much like Wellington.
It's a harbor city. It's a hell city. But we
do have a wonderful cycle way around the harbor and
that is flat. Yeah, I agree. Okay, look, let let's
move on from that. I want to talk about rates.
Should rates be or attax on wealth or should they
actually just be use the pace? If you want to
(08:38):
go to the library or the swimming pool, you pay
for it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Well, there are combinations of what you're saying that are correct.
But I go back to two thousand and two. It's
a long way they go and a guy called Shanda
a report on the local government and he made a
whole lot of recommendations. What he was saying was that
simple governor's loading local governor with all sorts of things
they're not cap of doing and just passing on to
the rate paars. And because there's a wall between the
(09:05):
right pars and the government and they can bring the
local government. That's what they've done. We need to properly
reform all sectors of our government.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
A couple tore quickly finish Sean. We're going to be
speaking to Bryce McKenzie, shortly co founder of Groundswell. He
wants us out of the Paris Agreement. Where does New
Zealand First sit as opposed to the coalition because the
Prime Minister said to me on Wednesday the Coalition was
totally supportive of us staying in the Paris Agreement. But
where does New Zealand First sit and what are you
(09:35):
going to campaign on.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
We were the first ones that came out a long
time ago and said this, almost sixty percent of emissions
are coming out of China, India, Russia and the United States.
What we do is like a sneeze in the middle
of the night compared to the rest of them, and
nothing we can do can change that. So please, we said,
let's re examine what the Paris Accord was about. And
(09:56):
remember specifically it was to if we had out from
the accord food growing or in primary production in the
sense that we know that coming forward for the next
thirty thirty five years will need thirty to thirty five
percent more food. This is a critical area, but it
was in general. First has said let's re examine why
we did this in the first place, because I said,
(10:18):
at the time when the National Party went off with
Paula Bennett the two Paris and sign up to the accord,
they had no idea what they're signing up to.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So take that as a yes.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Of course, it's a yes. I'm saying that we have
got to re examine and look at the matter and
say to New Zealanders and in fact all of the world, say,
how can we make a difference when China's emissions are
above thirty percent?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, I'm not arguing with you on that one. One
to finish on this is from me. I'm hot under
the collar about this one. Carbon farming, the folly of
carbon farming, blanket planting, productive farmland as is happening out
there as we speak, when we're getting record prices for
red meat. As an exam, surely we should be growing food,
(11:02):
not pine trees.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, I agree with the entirely, but when you say
not pine trees, no, we should be growing native, long
term native trees. Pine tree forests are just a desert underfoot.
If you go into a pines forest, there's nothing there.
Now we want native forest built, and we're in a
bill of we're going to plant a billionum native forest.
Plus we're actually preserving agricultural land. That's precisely our policy,
(11:25):
and thank you for supporting it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, you've changed your tune a bit from twenty seventeen
when your henchman Shane was running around planting a billion
pine trees.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Well, well we were playing a billion trees, not just
pine trees, but we got out of hand. There should
have been balanced there.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So are you rewriting history here once?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Then?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
No, I'm not rewriting history. I at the time was
center Shane. We need to be climbing both sorts of
trees and some of them will last three hundred, four
hundred years, but it's part of the cleaning up of museums, pollution.
If I go to Scandinavia, I can't see a waterway
until I I'm flying HERBD on a helicopter or a plane.
Why because they've got to feed all down the sides
(12:04):
of the banks of the rivers and what have you.
It's spectacular. And you know something, they're way ahead of
us in terms of all aspects of the economy, and
they're twice as rich as we are, and maybe they've
got some lessons to teach us. Meanwhile, of course they
are serious about a cultural production. But when they talk
about that culture production, here's a difference between the National
Party and others in New Zealand. First, we want the
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added value to happen in New Zealand, not offshore.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Winston Peters, thanks for your time. So there's a bit
of bark left in the old dog, isn't there at
eighty years of age, going better than ever.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't know what you mean by that. I just
think nasty.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean it wasn't nasty, it was just fact.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Sure. If Donald regular say I will not use my
complain about my opponent's youth and inexperience, if they stopped
talking about my wisdom.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And age, Well, bless you, thanks for your time, Thank you,
thank you. Winston on a nickelback Friday, is there a
rock star? I know? I think him and Shane. I've
never contemplated voting New Zealand first, but on careful Jamie,
(13:10):
Hello Michelle. Oh well, honestly, Shane scratches a lot of
itches for me. Admittedly I'm not a skinker, a lizard
or a blind frog. I'm not getting in his way
when he's digging it up. Baby dig, baby dig. But
they're trying to talk about of common sense. Interesting comments.
They are from Winston on Paris, so his position is
(13:33):
vastly different to that of the Coalition. But we were talking,
or we did refer to Michelle the League Table on
Local Government rates that's put out by the Taxpayers Union
and your home patch. The Kluther District Council is leading
the charge for the top ten rate increases for this
(13:53):
year sixteen point five nine percent. Now, as you drive
through the wonderful town of Bealcluther, as I do a
lot when I'm heading down to Southland, You've got that
big new woke building right by the river there. It's
where the district council hel Houns is itself, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
No, the district council is still up the hell I
think Jamish.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So they haven't built a grand palace for themselves.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
No, No, this is like a grand palace for a
eats and things like that. It's pretty impressive. It's got
a movie theater inside it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, I'm pleased, but can you afford it? Kluther District Council.
Your rates up sixteen point five nine percent this year.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
It's nice to have something nice and shiny in the
main street, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I see the Dunedin City Council, my Goddyna, how to
waste money there? They're nowhere to be seen in the
top ten for rates increases. When it comes to the
cumulative rate increases, as I said to Winston West Coast
Regional Council, sixty five point five percent cumulative over the
last three years. Wellington Regional Council surprise, surprise, fifty four
(14:58):
point sixty seven. Taranak Regional Council, who I always thought
were one of the better ones, to be perfectly honest,
fifty percent or fifty one percent. Queenstown they've got growth
problems there fifty percent and it's just it's getting out
of hand, getting out of hand Radio up next? Has
he been barking at cars when it comes to the
(15:19):
Paris Agreement. We're going to talk to Bryce mackenzie, who's
been chewing my heir this week for a right of reply,
and we're going to tell you also how you can
win a storm Force Parker on Monday's show. There worth
four or five hundred bucks. They are brilliant and Scott
Barrett will announce who the winner is because he's going
to be on Monday's show. But we'll do that a
(15:40):
wee bit later because I've got to go to Bryce.
Apparently he's got to go somewhere at twelve thirty. So
Bryce McKenzie up next on the Country, bego Maren and
the wadd'll get.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well. We are just don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Willia this photograph, Hath.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We love your feedback here on the Country, and I've
been getting plenty this week from this man. His name
is Bryce McKenzie, co founder of Groundswell.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think on Wednesday's show I got a text from
a guy by the name of Glenn who said, Jamie,
when are you going to give your mate Bryce McKenzie
an uppercut over his misinformation about Paris. The PM just
told us the truth, and this obviously followed Wednesday's interview
with Prime Minister Christopher Luxen. Glenn goes on to write,
(16:33):
leaving Paris will make all of us farmers poorer by
about two dollars a kilogram.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I reckon.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I assume he's talking about milk solid price there. He
may well be talking about meat as well. Who knows. Okay,
Bryce McKenzie, we're going to give you the writer reply.
Have you been barking at cars over Paris?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
This is probably a little bit like that, Jamie, How
are you listeners? This is an interesting one from Glenn.
Isn't because he's accusing us of misinformation. That's spreading misinformation.
But see Brent's come up with this figure of two
dollars of kilogram milk solids?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Sorry? Bryce, who's Brent?
Speaker 9 (17:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Sorry, Glenn?
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I apologize.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well, you're spreading you're spreading misinformation, defaming bread. Carry on.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I am well, I don't know where he gets this
two dollars from, because the last time I looked, the
sixty odd countries that go under the Global dairy trade
and some of them are cell milk on that as well,
so as he suggesting that the global dairy trade is
going to drop two dollars a kilogram. And if he's
(17:43):
talking about meat right now, I mean Americas just can't
get enough of our beef anyway, and they're pulling out
of the Paris Accords, so I don't think they're going
to boycott buying our meat.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Well, okay, well, let's add some context to this. As
far as I'm aware, the old Trump sy Yeah, he's
going to get out of Paris, but he does things
differently than most world leaders. The other countries pulling out
are Libya, Yemen, Iran, Eritrea, and South Sudan. So we're
in with some rippers there bryce if we do pull out.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Yeah, but the other ones aren't honoring it, Jamie. I
mean there's one hundred and ninety four countries signed into it.
They were supposed to have their targets in Paris a court,
and of course there's only fifteen countries that had put
them in. So I mean other ones aren't playing their
part anyway, Jamie said, what is the point in it
(18:34):
if all the countries have signed into it aren't doing anything.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, it appears that we're not going to meet our
commitments by twenty thirty anyhow.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Yes, And that's the other thing, because you know, I
think the Taxpayers Union did some sort of costing on
it and come up with twenty four billion if we
miss out, which the government said we're not going to
pay anyway. But if you take that into consideration, who's
going to pay that anyway? How much a kilogram of
milk is that going to cost us? Or a kilogram
(19:03):
for meat?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Is that Taxpayers Union the same outfit the funds.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
You worsh if they can you get them to send
us some money, Jamie, because we're a bit strap case
case strap case.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
So there's no there's no connection between the Taxpayers Union
and Groundswell.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Well, we're getting off subject, but a little yes, like
when we first started, Jordan Williams contacted and said could
we he do as social media and yes he did
do it for something like two and a half years,
but no he doesn't do that now. So there's no
contact with the Taxpayers Union.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
See Bryce, I tipped my hat to you guys at
ground Swell. You and Lourie, I mean, you didn't really
want to do this, but you took up the challenge
under an awful labor government that was completely shafting farming.
I think you made the industry good bodies buck up
and take a harder line. I think all done you
for that, But now are you effectively redundant? To be
(20:04):
fair to this government? I don't think they could do
much more for farming.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Well, look, they have done a lot of god and
you can't take that away from them. Jay, that there's
still things that are sneaking through. And look, you look
at some of the adverse effects of Paris Accord, and
I mean there's a lot of them, and they're not
just skeermongering and that they're actually happening. And you know,
there's a lot of food producing land, detrimental impacts on
(20:32):
rural communities, profound and irreversible effects on landscapes, increased poor
water quality, lots of indigenous biodiversity, increased fire risk, and
you can go on and on and on.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Now, what do you say to people like Federated Farmer's
President Wayne Langford. Our write as a bloke, and I
think he's a fairly level headed sort of character. He
said he's sat in rooms with dairy company leaders who
have said and you're a dairy farmer, Bryce, who have
said it could shave as much as three dollars a
kilogram of milk solids off the dairy price. So why
(21:08):
would we even be talking about it. That is a
quote from Wayne Langford.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, look, Jamie, we're not saying there may not be
any adjustment. Maybe there is, but we're dying a death
by a thousand cuts anyway with the Paris Agreement, So
why are we staying in there? And anyway, how can
they say that there's been no cost analysis done on
the being in or out of Paris? So these are
(21:35):
just figures that are being plucked out of the year
and it's all part of just gearmongering.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Okay, Bryce, On that note, I'll better go. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Okay, Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It is twenty eight away from one. Thanks Bryce. Yeah,
Bryce has been chewing my ear for a writ of reply.
Someone else is chewing my hair on the text line, Michelle,
are you are such an arrogant person? Mackay, I could
be offended by that? Now what the text does have
to realize? Look, I'm up for a bit of abuse,
probably deserve it. But we also have a record of
(22:07):
every other text you've ever sent us, so we kind
of get a feel texture for your tone this person, Dares.
I won't say where Dares is from. Dares, I know
where you're from. He's also said, who cares about Global
Running Day? That was your initiative, Michelle. You shouldn't have
introduced that commentary into the show. No, I've taken note
(22:27):
because Dares didn't like Global Running Day. Let's see some
of it. Dares's other comments kick McCullum out of parliament.
He's such a muppet, poor old Grant mcnational. Todd McClay
showed just what a horrible little man you are, mackay
as he wasn't putting O'Connor down. Don't be a gutless
(22:48):
bastard and stop playing that ad from Dares. I think
that refers to the ad from was that from the
safe ad, which we have no control over. Dares, you're
not being fair. You're not being fair at all days
and I'm up for a bit of abuse. But if
you really hate it that much, Dares, there's a thing
on your radio called a dial, change it. Because I
(23:09):
notice you're a regular enter entry also or an enterer
into our competition, so you can't have it both ways, DearS,
Sorry about that. Up next are we going to chat
to what are you shaking your head? It's a Nickelback Friday.
It's the music anyhow. Up next we are going to
chat to Chris Brandoleno. Do we figure out what Newa's
(23:32):
new name was, Earth Sciences, New Zealand Earth Sciences, New Zealand.
He's up next, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Sense something and this is up you remind me.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
This is I don't think Nickelback were that bad. Really,
Michelle's shaking her head again. Chris Brandolino. I was going
to say from newe But he's got a new name,
Earth Sciences, New Zealand. Where you and Nickelback? And Chris,
let me turn your fader up. Yeah, I can live
with it. But a Nicolas Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Do you know how they got their name Nickelback?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
No, tell me.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I believe one of the band members is working in
a coffee shop, and I think in the States and
oftentimes because of the price of a popular coffee whatever,
it'll be five cents change to the customer and here's
your Nickelback.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, what a great story, the story behind the making
of a great band. I'll get in trouble for that one.
Dares will probably rip into me for that one as well.
We are going to talk very quickly because I haven't
got much time that I've wasted too much time getting
stuck into DearS. Sorry Dares, but it cuts both ways.
I just want to talk to you about that, especially
that the Tasman Nelson region forecast in the future of
(24:47):
more rain events for them. It's so disheartening watching what
they've gone through and the fact that they could have
another major reign event. Please tell me you forecasters have
got it wrong.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well, we've been working with Matt subs and seven briefing
MPI and the likes, and well, if the good news
is at the next seven to maybe ten days, we'll
say at least a week very dry, hardly any rain.
So that's really good news. The not so good news,
as you were talking about, there are some pretty I guess,
reliable indications that as we emerge into the last we'll
(25:20):
call it the last few days of that final week
of July, so you know, twenty seventh, twenty eighth, twenty ninth,
somewhere around there, that'll likely be a time when we'll
start to see low pressure emerging in the Tasman and
if that happens, it'll tap into tropical moisture sent it
our way. So yeah, there isn't Now I would describe
it as elevated odds for a significant rain late July
(25:43):
into early August. Now exactly where I mean, it's too
far away, but certainly at the top of the South Island.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They're in that conversation, Hey, what other regions need to
look out for greater than average rine? For instance South
when my home pitch is enjoying a wonderful winter. Thus
fab but I say there on the right ahahola on
average rine fall as well.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, well for the next through September the season. On
Climate Outlook, we're highlighting the top of both islands, so
the Waikato Bay of plenty Auckland, Northland and the top
of the South Island. Those are the areas most likely
to have above normal rainfall. It's actually worked out that way.
All other areas have above normal rainfall. Lean we're not
quite a bit of uncertainty, so we're saying normal or
(26:25):
above normal and actuality, the west of the South Island,
including Lovely Southland, we're thinking normal or below normal rainfall. Now,
keep in mind even normal below. It doesn't mean it
won't rain, just means that rainfall is expected to be
where it should be or less than it should be.
So a wetter than usual period through the end of
September looks pretty darn unlikely for the likes of Southland,
(26:47):
Interior Otago as well as the west of the South Island.
So I think they'll get some rain maybe in that
period late in July, but for the next seven to
ten days it looks pretty dry there. And going farther
beyond Jamie, the west of the South Island, including Southland
in the Lower South Island, that's an area we're going
to have to watch for dryness as we work through spring.
(27:09):
So we're going pretty far out now working through spring
and for the rest of the calendar year. We're expecting
more east to northeast winds and if that eventuates, that
does not favor rainfall, so that could be something that
could come back to bite us later this calendar.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Okay, you can hear knickelback.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Time to go.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Thank you, Chris Brandolino from Earth suns, Z and Z.
See there we go right bang on twenty one away
from one. We're going to take a break, get our
acts together and give you a rural news and sports
news before the end of the hour. Zoe Carter, Ossie
Egg influencers seven hundred thousand followers, women in eighteen from
(27:52):
one some of your feedback coming in Das don't be
a Karen. I like that, love you work afternoon. Jamie
Scotsman's valley here in the way Katow has received three
hundred and forty five mills of rain in the last
six weeks. Very wet, says Ray. Here's another. Noel says
I'd vote for New Zealand first if he guaranteed not
(28:14):
to go with the looney Left. Well, he's guaranteed not
to go with Chippy, but Chippy's not guaranteed to be
the labor leader heading into the election. Interesting times. Stuart
Nash n Z First MPa, what do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Here?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Is Michelle with the latest and rural news, and I
think we've got a winner from yesterday's Kay Walker promotion.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
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Speaker 8 (28:48):
Yeah thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
We have our last winner of the storm Force Parker
for the week and it's Iain Burke from wy Cators.
I'm sure that you'll enjoy that jacket.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I know he needs it if he's in Scotsman's Valley.
Three hundred and forty five mills in the last six weeks.
Brilliant jackets. Those. So we've got one more to give
away on Friday Monday.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
No, we've got two more to give away with the
final prime.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think we've got one for Monday, haven't we No,
so two more with the final Damn, damn, I've been
spreading false information.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Sorry about that, Well, technically we are. We have got two.
But it's part of the fishing the fishing trip.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
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with Scott Barrett and Kiwalker.
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and we'll throw on two hundred and fifty dollars cash
to cover any odd experience expenses that might crop up.
So head to our website, register and go on the
draw where Scott Barrett on the show on Monday to
(29:44):
announce the winner.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, go fishing with Scott Barrett and you can win
the two Kywalker Storm Force Park as they are brilliant.
Believe you me. We're some great feedback coming in today.
Really appreciate. But we better keep moving because I said
odd chapters at twelve thirty, I'm way behind time. Zoe
Carter up next on the country You remind me?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
This is how you remind me.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Sport with an AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I am having a shock at today I forgot the
sport carried away with Scott. Let's see what's happening our
world Rugby. This is Tony Brown. I blame Tony Brown.
World Rugby has worn South Africa and other teams that
trying to manipulate a kickoff into a scrum won't be tolerated.
The spring Box deliberately chipped short and regathered to open
their second test against Italy last week, provoking debate around
(30:43):
the move's legal and moral merits. Any further incidents will
see a penalty issued under Law nine point seven, which
governs foul or unfair play and monngeur Rasa said they
admitted in Italy when he was coaching. They kicked that
out on the four to get a scrum on interesting times.
Up next, Zoe Parker. Where do I get that from?
(31:04):
Let's try Zoe Carter?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
You are.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
What is an influencer? Anyone can be an influencer these days.
I talked to a few influencers here on the country.
One of them is a young Australian woman by the
name of Zoe Carter. I spoke to her on January
the twenty fourth of this year, and I just looked
back on the text. Zoe, it said, you're a dynamic,
young Australian AG influencer with seven hundred thousand followers, a
(31:34):
businesswoman who has a boundless passion for farming. Does that
still hold true? What six months later?
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Good afternoon, Yes, I'd say it still holds true.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, good on you. Hey, just give us just remind
us a wee bit about your background, because you grew
up in the city, went out worked on a farm,
you had a bad accident I think, or something something
befell you, if that's the correct word, and then you
had to change course.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
Yeah, pretty much. That's a good summary. I've got to
grow up in the city and never really saw agg
as a career pathway until after I crashed by a
horse and then thought I can't keep doing this. So
I don't know if eggs much better, but did that
for a few years.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I loved it.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
My body just couldn't keep up with me. Unfortunately, with
my past injuries, I've had a hit replacement at twenty five.
So now I work a little bit more behind the scenes.
I'd say more of an advocate for the egg industry
rather than an influenza because I get a bit touchy
about about that one. And then you run three businesses
alongside all that as well.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, okay your businesses are you? One of your businesses
and website called Agriculture Jobs as wide, so you connect
people who are looking for a job in Australia and
New Zealand with a job an egg.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Yeah pretty much. So we're a job sports so we
don't do any of the screening, not a recruitment agency,
but focus on pairing up Penman Australian residents and New
Zealand citizens because New Zealand citizens have the same working
right So there's a lot of Australians do, so pairing
up those kinds of people with positions and helping them
make it easier to find them. So I guess all
(33:06):
the jobs ideally are in one place, so it just
makes a lot easier people looking. So we focus on
every ad job in Australia that's available, no matter your
experience level. We have no first year opportunities all up
to quite high level management.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
So Zoe, are you being flooded with key weekendidates because
we've had a net migration loss of thirty thousand New
Zealanders to Australia and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
Yeah, Look, I do notice that there is quite a
lot of New Zealanders applying for roles, especially to dairy positions,
especially manager roles. Like we obviously, Australia is bigger in size,
much bigger, the properties are bigger. We tend to have
more opportunities for you know, workers and things like that,
Whereas I find a lot of like you know, for example,
Victoria is a lot of smaller farms where a lot
(33:55):
lot of it's family runs, so they don't really have
as many opportunities for work, Whereas you know, you get
to elsewhere, and there's that many opportunities and that many
areas where you can extend your career. I can see
why New Zealanders are coming over, But yeah, I have
I feel like I've seen a job in Canada's applying
for jobs being New Zealanders looking for opportunities in Australia.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I want to ask you about worker exploitation. Not only
key we work as ossie workers, imported workers or foreign workers.
Australia's Fair Work on Birdsman Inspectors found that more than
eighty percent of horticultural businesses and parts of Victoria were
in breach of laws to protect workers following a three
(34:35):
year investigation. Is it that bad?
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Yeah, look that situation, I'm not overly familiar with it. Again,
we focus on permanent signed residents, so we're not really
working with the visa holders and sponsorships, which unfortunately are
commonly exploited in the industry. That's one of the reasons
they're quite favored in a lot of a lot of roles. So, yeah,
(35:00):
does happen. Unfortunately, there's a lot of things coming into place,
like there's a few businesses that are kind of rising up,
going right, we need to see better you know, circumstances
and the things like modern day slavery as well as
another one that you know, does a do see pop up?
So it is very dependent. It's not an area of
expertise for us, but yeah, it is. It does happen
a lot, unfortunately, but it is improving for any young key.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
We was listening to this and hopefully they're not going
to migrate across the Tasman Oi's one thing. Staying over
there as another one. What are the red flags to
look out for when you're looking for a job an egg?
Speaker 9 (35:33):
Oh, look, there's there's quite a few. If you know
anyone local to the area that you're going to be
traveling to. I definitely recommend reaching out to locals and
seeing if you know, there's any reviews back for them,
even just googling their name and the business name and
seeing if anything pops up. You know, just you know,
housing conditions, asking you know, what the house is like,
if there's any photos, because obviously traveling across you know,
(35:55):
across quite a long way can be a little bit
daunting if the communications very short, if they don't want
to mention pay rates or you know, talking about you know,
when you're going for a position, you know, you need
to understand what the benefits of perks are. You know,
you are entitled to know that, so asking those questions
and if they get a little bit touchy about it,
you know, it's probably a little bit of a red flag.
(36:17):
And then you know, again it is hard until you
get over there. But things like your stock condition and temperament,
keep your stock are in poor nick or they you
know they're very flighty, very on edge cattle or sheep,
you know, highly likely. You know it's probably may not
be the best environment. And you know, you know, machinery conditions,
if everything's kind of falling apart, not well maintained and
looked after. I see that as a bit of a
(36:39):
bit of a red flag. But it is it is
hard to really note before you come over that. A
lot of it's just research.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Zobe Karte out of Australia. Thanks for time today on
the Country.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Good on your Zoe. Now next week on the Country
Innovation Week, we've got some great interviews lined up thanks
to herd Eye. Will tell you more about that one
next week, but after the break we're going to wrap
it with a brilliant text, love it God, that's got.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
No limit and a big black chair in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
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(37:35):
get you through. That's probably what I need after today's
attack from Dares. Although I must say, Jeremy Rocks, you
are a planker, but this isn't bad. He has texted
in Bryson Lazza that's Bryce Mackenzie and Laurie Patterson deserve knighthoods.
If you me received a gong for being the rural
(37:55):
John Campbell, then they really do need to be recognized
by the King. Not a bad shot. Rocks, appreciate it.
Appreciate all the feedback today, four hundred and sixty four
meals in the last six weeks and take a weddy.
Catch you back on Monday with Scott Barrett, Grown.
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