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June 5, 2025 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Chris Brandolino, Hamish McKay, and Heather du Plessis-Allan.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Misty shame, dear drop in the country.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Roll, Take me on.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
To the Land, Take you a.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Country Roll, Gooday, New Zealand and welcome to the Country.
Day two out of Auckland, running the gauntlet today, she's
all live. It's fraught with danger. We were going to
kick off the show with X Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters. Andy,
we haven't got them, have we now? Andy McDonald is
giving me the head shake. We haven't got Winston, but

(01:02):
I think we might have have. We got Emma Paul.
We have got Emma Paul the Cavalry in the form
of the twenty twenty three Young Farmer of the Year,
the first woman to win said title. Broke the grass ceiling. Emma,
thanks for saving the bacon. We can't find Winston. We're
going to get your brother Tim Awee but later in
the hour. Now you no doubt we'll have a big

(01:24):
role to play next week at Field Days.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, it can be a busy one. Jamie, thanks for
having us on and I'm sorry if you hear kids
in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It was a bit of a.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Last minute call up to replace Winston, but it's all good.
But yeah, I'm looking forward to field Days and it
should be a good one. Pretty excited to see see
some local faces as well as some people that have
traveled from a board and have just a good chin leg.
Was everyone really yeah? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Was this the biggest accolade filling in for Winston or
winning Young Farmer of the Year.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think this would be right up there, Jamie. I'll
diferently be putting it on the CD.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Good on you now. You posed the question to me
earlier this morning when we were swapping texts, that well,
the resurgence and the rural economy mean the return of
the free giveaway at field Days.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, I think so, Jamie. I think you for years
we've been going now and you don't even get the
free kettle prod of these days. But I think the
last two years at the field Days have been quite
tricky for rural salesmen and trying to get things across
the line with farmers who had high interest rates, and
the milk payout was buoyant but not quite buoyant enough

(02:27):
to keep people spending. So this year, the interest rates
are coming down, the milk pout's looking pretty good. I
think farmers are going to be looking to make some
improvements and you know, spend some money on some capital
on their farms. So there could be a bit of
a hard graft from the salesman going on there and
I'm hoping that we get some free stuff out of it.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think Field Days is going to be really positive,
and it's been kick started by this investment investment tax
boost whatever they call it. It's effectively another twenty percent
you can claim off depreciation of these big ticket items
in year one.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, and it's certainly going to have an impact on
the way farmers spend and use their money on farm,
isn't it. And it's you know, things that we're already
starting to think about, especially with here in terms of
some of those big capul items that it were sinking
our teeth.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Into where we have to now, what are you going
to be doing? Who are you representing at field Days.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I'll be there with a New Holland crew on Friday,
floating around the New Holland tent as well as joining
up with the Young Farmer's Crew. So We've got the
contestants coming together and they'll be showcased around the sponsors
and all of the intents, so I'll be catching up
with some of them, and on the Wednesday, I'll be
at the Innovation Hub helping with some of the judging there.
So looking forward to seeing some of the young faces

(03:40):
there at Young and Old and some of the great
innovation prizes and things that are coming forward out of
the industry there.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
FMG Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final and early
July and and the cargol this year. Do we have
any early favorites. I'm not sure how many repeat offenders
we've got, but it's definitely an advantage to have competed before.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh absolutely, Jamie and I found that going back it
was just so much more cool. Carmen collected the second
time and it was just easier to get on with it.
Tim managed to just take it out in one Grand Final,
so you did a bit better than I. But in
terms of favorites are it's hard to pick one. But
you know, Hugh Jackson competed with me and he's become

(04:21):
a great friend, which is, you know, a cool thing
to have come out of Young Farmers you get really
close with those finalists, so I'll be backing him this year.
Sorry to the other.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Contestants, well good on. Your friendship goes a long way.
Hell has the dairy season wound up for you?

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Or do you?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Are you one of these suckers for punishment who milks
all the way through with a split carving?

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah we asked split carving, so yeah, we haven't exactly
wound up. We're wound down. We're wounding up a little
bit here, but we've finished autumn carving, which is nice.
And one of the farms, oh is a spring calving
farm and that ended up up for the season. And
speaking to most Ta pol And the Waykedo region, Jamie,
most people have ended up ahead. And that's despite there

(05:05):
being a large drought in the Waykido. So I think
there's two really interesting things that probably have come from that,
And the first is that it's a higher payout season,
so farmer's probably milked a little bit longer and maybe
milked a few extra numbers. But the second thing is
that because it was a drought, there was a higher
level of supplementation used. And I'm a great advocate for
putting in supplement to help balance your grass, because I

(05:28):
think New Zealand grass is very imperfect and it's not
actually great fodder for cows to be eating constantly. So
it's great where farmers can use supplement tactically to help
balance that diet and extract the most out of their grass.
So it might be something we will be seeing more
of in the future, even though it's sort of not
the drum that may be perhaps your in ze's beating well.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Dairy farming is a tough way to make a living.
You work your backside off effectively for nine or ten
months of the year and then you do get a
bit of an off season, but not if your split
cart having Why would you do that to yourself?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I'm not sure, Jammy. Maybe maybe to cover the bank debt,
but it's I think the way Keto regions really suited
to winter milking, and you obviously get a bit of
an elevated payout milking through that winter period. Fontira incentivizes
you a little, which is really nice, and we love

(06:22):
wearing wearing autumn calves. I think that the calves are
hard to catch in the peddock. We hardly get any
media bollock diseases with our cows have just got so
much sunshine and vitamin D, so all in all, it's
actually quite a pleasant experience until we sort of hit
September probably.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Okay, Emma, I thank you very much for filling in
for Winston. I'm texting him as we speak to see
if he's landed. He's flying from somewhere to somewhere and
due to get off a plane, and to be fair
to him, he's flying off this weekend. So let me
see France, Italy in Indonesia for an eighteen eighteen year
old that was a few moons ago. For Winston for
an eighty year old. He has great energy. So hopefully

(06:59):
we'll at some stage before the end of the show,
but up after the break, and thank you, Emma, it'll
either be your brother, your older brother Tim or Winston,
hopefully before the end of the Chris Brandolino Knee was
weather guy on Winter's Arrival. It's definitely arrived and the
long range or winter forecast warmer and wetter. We're hearing

(07:23):
Hamish Mackay fill in host sometimes on the Country and
the person who took away the Big Gong. Last night
at the New Zealand Radio and Podcast awards. So many
podcasts out there these days. Taking home the Sir Paul
Holmes Broadcaster of the Year. She's going to pop in

(07:44):
and say hello to us, Heather Duplessy Allen. We'll be
back after the break. Take eighteen after twelve Welcome back
to the country, brought to you by Brand No sign
of Winston. We'll keep trying, but we've got another Dangeon

(08:05):
filling in for winstant Second dangein to the batter's box today,
Tim Dangeon twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the Year.
And Tim, you're not going to field days because you're
moving or have moved down to Southland.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Good afternoon, Hey, good afternoon, Jamie. I have mate. We're
a week on the ground down here and the weather
seem pretty good but today it's cold in about three
degrees so I'm slowly adjusting, but it's great to be
down here. The farms looking spectacular. Simon Janinea have looked
after me for this past week here and yeah it's

(08:37):
going to be down here.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Mate, Yeah, Simon and Jeanine Hopcroft and Simon was what
was it two thousand and four or two thousand and four,
I think Young Farmer of the year, so you're keeping
it in the family.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Their home farm is not a mile away from Riverton,
which isn't a mile away from in the Cargo, which
isn't a mile away from Antarctica. So from the warmth
of west Auckland and tim d Engine you are, well,
you're going to have to acclimatize to farming in Southland again.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, so well, Jamie, but it happens pretty quickly. I'm
already sort of finding myself sweating in the leggings. So
it's good to be here. And you know, although the
weather is not perfect, we know that winter is a
sort of knuckle down time and the farm you know,
shuts down here at home on the milking platform as
the cowsle go for a wintering block. So we dried
off yesterday which keeps off a good season for the

(09:29):
hot cross. And looking forward to our coming season where
will be taking the full rains and giving it a
real crack. I'm excited, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well as a sheer milker, are you like fifty to fifty?

Speaker 7 (09:39):
I know we're lower order order lord, Yeah, yep we are.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
But if you get a ten dollar payout, you're still
going to be rolling in it.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Tim, Yeah, yeah, I don't know about rolling. You know,
we've got some pretty big ambitions about what we want
to put our money towards Jamie, so we'll be squirreling
it away, mate. But yeah, it is looking very optimistic
for the season coming absolutely, and I just tend to
see that wide range that Fonterra has come out with
for the twenty five to twenty sixth season, and although
the starting points are ten dollars, it's yeah, sort of.

(10:10):
It indicates to me that the cultron about the next
six months, but the six months after that there is
obviously a be a bit of uncertainty, so it will
be cautious and we won't be spending it till it's
all in the bank account next year.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well that's what I'm hearing from various industry sources. There's
more downside risk than upside risk, and it was a
brave move by Fonterra to open at ten. Are you
using any hedging policies? Are you going to fix any
milk price?

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Yes, we have fixed in some so there's some pretty
attractive advanced options there for us. And so just because
it's how our first season coming down, we sat down
with sign engineer and obviously they have to be on
board with fixing it as well. So we have fixed
in a portion which just gives us a little bit
upside against risk, I suppose because your first season coming

(10:57):
into it and then obviously those headwinds. It's good to
and we fixed it at about nine dollars sixty for
a portion of our supply. So yeah, it absolutely sort
of allows you to sleep at night a little bit better.
And if you fix and interest rates and some feeds
supply contracts along with that, Jamie, it's yeah, it still
looks really positive and quite lucrative.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
So yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Knocking on an open door for me. I think it's
just smart risk mitigation. They're well done on that one.
So part of the reason you've gone down Sheer Milking
and Southland is no doubt to build up a capital
fund I assume to buy your own farm or buy
the family farm out Tim, Is that the master plan?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, that's part of the master plan, Jamie suddenly. Yeah,
we've already brought him to the home farm out of Middieway,
but yeah, long term, we want to be able to
make sure that we can compensate Mum and dad as
fairly as possible basically for the hard graft and the
equity that they've created which has given all of us
kids lots of options. So it's yeah, we're trying to

(11:55):
trying to come down here to put a few pennies away,
talk to one day be able to hopefully yeah, fairly
compensate then back at home. But there's also other plans
in the pipeworks too, Jamie. I love dairy farmer, I
always have and if the farm and autorin was a
dairy farmer, I would have stuck there. But this is
an exciting opportunity and a different adventure for us to
come down here. And yeah, I'm really looking forward to

(12:16):
getting in behind another big dairy farm and getting my
head back in that game.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
To that end you're sort of campaigning for. And this
is I think a Federated farmer's calls as well. Isn't
it for young farmers being able to access their key
We say it just like you can for buying a house,
for buying your first farm.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I see that FEDS is coming
out with something this afternoon, so keep an eye your
emails there. If you're a federated Farmer's member that there's
a petition starting to try and get the government to
allow young farmers to be able to put that key
we so over towards perhaps buying obviously your first farm
would be great, but even buying capital livestock on a
dairy farm or a seven bee farm, and from a

(12:56):
young person's receipt of it'd be great to be able
to have access to that fund of money there than
having to go to the bank. And yeah, I think
it would open lots of options and lots of doors
and it's sort of just another one of those ones
that was promise on the campaign trail. I believe Tom
McClay said it on the campaign trail, So it just
needs following up on because I think it would open
a lot of doors for young farmers and particularly for

(13:17):
rural folks Jamie, where you know, you're often working in
businesses where there's a house supplied with along with your job,
and so there's no real incentive to go off and
put that key WE saver towards the house in town, say,
because you've sort of got ambitions in the rural area.
So I think it's a good initiative and it's awesome
to Sea Fed's picking up on it and pushing it again,

(13:39):
and this coming week at field Days, I'm sure it
might be a topic of discussion that they'll be reminded
about well.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Tim Dangel twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the Year
FMG Young Farmer of the Air is going to be
nice and handy for that Grand Final which is coming
up in the cargo not a mile away from where
you are in early July. Emma, I don't know whether
you heard her talking. She was talking about it, mate,
Hugh Jackson, Yes, being perhaps a favorite you got any

(14:06):
if the tab was running a book, who would you
have your money on.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
I think it's a competitive year, Jamie. I honestly couldn't
really pick anyone. He will certainly be right up there.
I'd like to think that there's a few of them
that I know are putting a lot of time and
effort into it, and Emma and I obviously know how
great a platform it is to be able to launch
and propel your career to the next step. So I
think all these young men that are that are there
in the Grand Final this year will be giving it
a real good crack. And of course the local lad

(14:34):
Cameron will be really putting it as fun forward as well,
so I'm looking forward to it. It'll be cold, but
it will be good and then the Cargill always turns
out and big numbers to support the contest's great.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Absolutely, will you enjoy farming in Riverton And if he
gets sick of the weather in Riverton very coastal of course,
just head Inland in Southland to the riviera of Southland
in North and Southland a town called Riverstyle.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Yeah, I know it well, Jamie, So popping up there
at some stay for sure.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Hey, thank you for your time and thanks for filling
in for Winston. I'm just looking at Andy McDonald through
the who's producing the show for me through the window.
We don't have this sort of stuff. I'll see you
later by the way, Tim, we don't sort of have
this flash sort of set up in Dunedin. We're all
just plunked in the same room, which is quite handy
when you need to pass notes to one another. But
I'm looking at Andy and he's looking back at me vacantly.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, we don't know whether where is Winston. We're going
to try and get him before the end of the hour.
If we can't get Winston, we might have to go.
In fact, I think we probably can go to Chris
Brandolino from newas So we'll be back with someone after
the break.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Game A tub and run and it's kid up.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Again.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Welcome back to the country. Andy keeps telling me, I've
got a to the mic on. It's like driving a
new tractor. I'm not very good at it. Well, everyone's
filling in for Winston today. Next up is Chris Brandeleno,
who is not really filling in for Winstont because we
can't find Winston Peters. But Chris Brandeleeno, we said about
twelve thirty, so you can be Winston if you want,
or you could just be a humble weather man. What

(16:15):
do you want to be?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'll be a humble meteorologist. Winston is the best person
to be Winston. I can promise you that.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I think they broke the mold when they made Winston. Anyhow,
we'll try and track them down before the end of
the hour. Me will weather guy. Winter's well and truly arrived,
as we expect. Shock horror, It's June. It gets cold,
no surprise there. But I was reading I think late
last week or early or early because I wasn't on
the show last Friday when we chatted, or early this

(16:44):
week about your long range winter forecaster. Are you guys
saying like warmer and wetter?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, yeah, well yes, it's the short answer. The longer
answer is a little bit of variability. So warm everywhere,
and look, I can imagine people in the South Island
and from that part for that matter, rather a good
chunk of the north allum being like, are you sure
about that? Warmer than average? It's pretty cold right now,
And yes, I am sure about that. And that is
because this is a three month outlook, Jamie, not a

(17:11):
three day outlook. A three month outlook will certainly we'll
have peaks and valleys, but we're expecting more peaks and valleys.
To use a temperature metaphor, there will be cold snaps,
i e. Today and tomorrow and the next few days
for that matter. In fact, Jamie, I would not be
surprised if you and I are talking in its early
September and winter is in the rearview mirror, and we

(17:32):
would have like, oh wow, the harshest part of winter.
You know broadly, and you know from a broad and
sharp point of view. Was actually in early June. This
colts that may not have much staying power, so I
think it may be kind of an odd ball in
terms of what the rest of winter will but yes,
it'll be cold. Snaps are probably gonna be infrequent, and
we are expecting airflows not to come from the south

(17:55):
very often, Jamie, which is why we're expecting air temperatures
to be elevated in terms of rainfall. If there's going
to be a wet winter, it's likely to be the
top of the country, so Bay Plenty, Corr Mendel, Whycott
to Auckland, Northland. We still think of wetter than usual
winter as possible for all other parts of the country
bar the eastern part of the South Island and that.
But it's a bit more uncertain Jamie. So we're saying

(18:15):
normal or above normal, kind of in between that spectrum.
We're within that spectrum, I should say.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Monje, if you're going to get bad with it, you
want it in the winter months what we don't want
and I'm speaking on behalf of southern South Island farmers
as a repeat of last spring, so we got through
the winter pretty well and then it was a horror spring.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
It was.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think a lot of that was due we had. Look,
we had this thing called a sudden stratospheric warming event,
and that is when the top of the atmosphere gets
really warm, really fast relative to what it usually is
over the South Pole. And when that happens, that causes
disruptions in the atmosphere and we actually saw more westerly
type winds because of that, and that was a big
reason why the lower part of the South Island, particularly Southland,

(18:59):
was unusually wet. We will get episodes of westerly winds.
I'm not saying we won't. They're basically going to be infrequent.
They're going to be less than usual, and that'll be
offset by winds coming from the northeast to the northwest.
And when that happens, Jamie, not only will our temperatures
be warmer. This spike in temperatures. Look, man, we just
saw this a couple of days ago. Yesterday, the day

(19:20):
before in the upper North Island it was twenty degrees
lower twenties in Hawk's Bay and that was because of
our airflow. But not only will that warmth come with
that northeast to northwest, when so will these rain bearing
weather systems, and we have any weather systems coming from
the north via northeast to northwest, that increases our odds
for big rain events. So we'll have to keep our
eye on that. And the area is most exposed to that.

(19:42):
What do you expect the top of the country, which
is why we've gone above normal rainfall for that part
of the North Island because they're more exposed to those
rain events. We do, I should say real quick, we
have to watch for dryness actually in the western and
lower part of the South Island and to a lesser extent,
to a lesser extent the wa eastern and lower part
of the North Island. Not so much for the winter season,

(20:04):
but it's probably toward the tail end of winter until
from about August into the spring season. Especially. That is
one area we'll have to watch for dry us because
we could see more northeast to easterly type winds and
that would not promote wetness or even near normal wetness
for that part of the country. We'll see, but just
a bit of a heads up, kind of longer, longer term.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay, let's go really short term. What do we go
for field days next week?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh gosh, that's right. Field Days coming up. Look it's
gonna be warmer, they'll be. It'll be a field Days
is underway Thursday. If my memories Wednesday correct, Wednesday, well, Wednesday,
expect a frosty start. Okay, So Wednesday will be a
cold start. It'll be a cold start to field Days,
no doubt about it. But as we work through the
field field Days period, it will warm up gradually and

(20:49):
by Friday and by Saturday, it looks like we're talking
much warmer temperature. So it chilly start Wednesday morning. But
I do think we will find u a a trend
or a change, I should say, to warmer temperatures, and
those warmer temperatures could be accompanied by a threat for
showers as we get in to say Thursday and especially Friday,

(21:11):
so I won't call it a wash out. But it
looks like as we get towards Thursday, Friday and Saturday
a field Days, there may be times where you want
to head indoors, but we can fine tune that forecast
as we get closer, cold start, warmer, finish.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Okay, will we see you there?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I will not be there, Oh.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Damn, never mind. I would still chat to you hopefully
next Friday. Chris Brendelina, thank you so much for your time.
Bring your gun boots to Field days for the car
park anyway, right, we are going to take a break
here on the country. Thank you very much, Chris. It
is twenty six away from one. We're still looking for Winston.
He's off to Where's he off to? Where did I say? France,

(21:47):
Italy and Indonesia over the weekend. He's a busy man,
very well traveled man for an eighty year old. We'll
come back after the break. Andy McDonald producing doing a
great job. We'll have sports news and Michelle, our producer
out of the Dunedin office, will have the latest and
rural news. Michelle, if you've got your ears on, I
think there's something about Sinley have come out with the

(22:11):
Sinley have come out I think with their forecast milk
price as well, so maybe you might chuck that into
the rural news. I'm not telling you how to suck eggs,
but I'll be keen to get that number. We'll be
back after the break.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Turning back telling out no.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Ah, Welcome back to the Country, Going Country on a Friday.
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(23:39):
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latest on rural News.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
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Speaker 5 (24:11):
Thanks Jamie, and a personal congratulations from myself for your
award last night. Another one for the pall Room. I
know we're both a fan of that movie. And in
rural news, Sinlay Milk has confirmed a ten dollars per
kg milk solid opening forecast milk price. As expected, it
is matched Fonterra Cooperative Group's opening price, which it announced
last week. In March, Sinlay managed to get a majority

(24:32):
of farmers to withdraw their cease notices, giving it confidence
it had sufficient milk volumes for the next two dairy seasons.
And another story that I found just interestingly enough, a
farmer from out here in Otago is going to be
running in his gum boots to fundraise for a Tigo
hospice and farmstrong He's going to be running from Mount
Cook to Akaroa. He starts on the twenty second of

(24:53):
journal go for seven days, three hundred and sixty four
kilometers running in gum boots. Sounds a bit crazy. If
you'd like to donate to that cause, he to give
a little and find his page. And that's real news.
Andy was Sport.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sport were the nasco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Yes thanks Michell. Anon Sport. New Zealand Cricket has confirmed
the appointment of the new national men's coach South African
Rob Walters, fended off the challenge of former Black Caps
quick bowler Shane Bond, will take over from Gary Stead
across all three formats. He was most recently coaching the
Pro Tears White bull sides, following stints in charge of
the Otago Vaults and Central Stags. Spain have flexed their

(25:31):
European football muscles in a high scoring five to four
win over France and the Yuefan Nations League Semifinals in Stuttgart.
The result books the current Nations League and euro champions
spot against Cristiano Ronaldo's Portugal and Monday Morning's final and
Rugby League great Melmanninger. He's set to be confirmed as
the head coach of the Perth Bears ahead of their
entry to the NRAL in twenty twenty seven. And just quickly,

(25:53):
the NBA Finals game ones underway very early on. Oklahoma
City lead Indiana four points too nothing? Make that seven nothing?

Speaker 7 (26:02):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Andy, of course you're a big New Orleans Pelicans fan.

Speaker 8 (26:05):
I am.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
Indeed.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Did they go?

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Well, yeah, that's sport, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Thanks, Okay, right here there we go, Andy McDonnell. How actually,
I'm not a I went to an NBA game on
one of our farming tours and it was in New Orleans.
We saw the Pelicans play the Oklahoma Oklahoma Thunder.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah. Did the Pelicans win that one? I don't think
they would not.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I can't That was twenty eight, twenty eighteen. I think
it was.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
The Pelicans were pretty good that year.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I think Stephen Adams might have been playing for the Thunder.
I can't remember he would have been. Honestly, you go
to an NBA basketball game and it's more about the
surrounds and the entertainment than the actual game. And unless
you're a purist, very entertaining. Rightio, we're going to continue
with the sporting theme farming and Footy up next with
Hamish McKay fill in host here on the Country and

(26:51):
the Big Gong last night at the New Zealand Radio
and Podcast towards the Sir Paul Holmes Broadcaster of the
Year is going to pop in and say hello and
wrap the week in Politics seeing with Miss Winston, Heather
Dupless c Ellen to wrap the show before the end
of the hour, wal hang On Carter her away from

(27:13):
one The Country's brought to you by Brandt Hamosh mckaye.
Now that Rowen has gone, well, she hasn't gone to
the dark side. She's going to the dark side. She's
going to air FMG, a great rural company, but she
won't be lost to the country. So it looks like
this bloke might be the fillin host. He feldon most
graciously for me last Friday, Hamish MacKaye, thank you very

(27:35):
much for that. It's good that we're keeping it in
the family.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
Loving it, Jamie loved it. It was a real honor
to sort of to fill the very big boots and
you know, I hope that your day last Friday went accordingly. Yeah, no,
thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
For people who are. I mean, people know you from
your days, especially on TV three when you were running
the sports news, but you're from a Manuatu farming back
and you've got a real sense of connection and empathy
with rural New Zealand and it hasn't gone away even
though you're a jeff of these days homish.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
Yeah, well, you know, look, it has it, you know.
I look, anybody that doesn't think that the rural community
and the rural export, export earning capabilities of New Zealand
aren't the backbone of this country has had a full
front all the bottomy as far as I'm concerned. And
you know what, I believe my heart in my head
tell me that most most of my Jeffer friends know

(28:31):
that too, Janie and I said, and I've never I
actually stayed on the family farn until I was about
twenty two, and I understand what it was like through
the post rogenomics times. And you know, some people accuse
me of gone on about that a bit much, but
you know, when you when you were cutting off lands
at nineteen dollars and beautiful you know wien of Stairs
at one hundred and two dollars. Shit, there were interesting

(28:53):
old times but I love the land and anything. You know,
I'm down to the manner or two at the moment. Nothing,
nothing gives me more pleasure than just driving past the
nice padick of Hesses or something. You know, I love it.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I remember I think it was around the rural games
going into a cafe in the manner or two, and
I was surprised. This bloke who owned the cafe said, oh,
you're Jamie McKay, and I'm thinking, oh, this is good.
He knows who I am, you know. He said, I
like your show, but you're not my favorite mackay on
the radio. That's amish. He deflated my balloon rather quickly.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
Oh well look I'm sure you know. Yeah, Look, you
don't hold it against him. I'll go and sort them out.
I'll go and tell him who's number one, who's a
potential Upsillon? You know?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Good on you mate. Hey, it's a huge weekend and
Andy McDonald's he can't see past the NBA. But for
me it's the it's the Super Rugby playoffs.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Is this just a.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Crass money making venture by n z R to have
these playoffs? It seems a bit of a It's like
they're just squeezing an extra week's rugby, and aren't they hamish?

Speaker 8 (29:58):
Yeah, well I think I that insane that I don't
disagree with that theory. And you but what the top
two teams, for instance, might have had the weekend off.
I think so, and then you know, third place and
so forth. But then there's also this argument of momentum
and then but then there's this crazy thing that the

(30:19):
Blues loop. Sorry the Chiefs lose, they get a life
if they win, and then what the Crusaders might get
a life if they win, then the Brumbies might.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Get But yeah, it.

Speaker 8 (30:30):
Is just is filling up the screen time, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You might have to go and climb up on one
of those hills with the big windmills on them. We're
starting to lose you, so.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You started to lose me to help me back, and
well I hope.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
We've got you back. Just stand stand up tall or
go to a window or something like that. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, when you've got an eleven team competition,
I don't see why you just can't go with the
top four. I can see why they don't go for
top eight. It's like primary school netball and not counting
the score. So I'd prefer like one v four, two

(31:02):
versus three, but I'm old school on that one. So
there's the Super Rugby. I think the Warriors have got
Cronulla were all sort of fair where the Warriors fans
these days, well.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
We don't if we like winning. We've got no choice,
have we. What is it? Six or seven in a row?
And they some of them, they have to do tough,
but they're delivering, so they're play to them.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, Canadian Golf Open as heading into the US Golf Open,
I'll be keen to watch that one this weekend and
also the French Tennis Open. And I know that the
female finalists have been decided. I think the males are
decided tonight. Yes, so I'm picking Sinner versus al Karez there.

(31:42):
But you wouldn't write off Djokovic.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
Now, you wouldn't write them off. There's something steely about
them that I haven't seen for a little while. But
you know, the two young guns. It does It kind
of does make sense, doesn't it, especially on particularly on
that court for our cares and Sinner, you know you
like him or not, he's got the goods. So yeah,
loving that, I love the clay court action as opposed

(32:06):
how different it is as a game, you know. But
the thing I love. I didn't realize that Djokovic has
actually won there three times. I I you know. That
to me is why I think he's the greatest, because
he's won across the board more than anybody else, across
all four surfaces and all four all four slams.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, well he's one more Grand Slams than anyone else.
Even though Federer is my favorite, I guess he will
end up being the goat. Hamish mackay, thank you very
much for your time, good luck for your fundraisers this weekend,
I think, and I'm just getting wins and hawks man
or two thank you and palming North. Listen, I've got
all sorts of I think Winston's trying to phone and

(32:46):
he might have missed the boat there. We'll see if
I want to talk to Heather Dupless Allen, and I
think we've got her, so we might have to send
her our best wishes to Winston. Hamish, go well, appreciate
your time.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Mate, And before we go to the break, I just
want to get this in because otherwise I'll forget.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I can't multitask It's a Friday sign off from the
team at Farmstrong. Really looking forward to catching up with
those guys at Field Days. Small changes in daily habits
can make a big difference to how you feel at
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(33:26):
farm Strong website for free tools and resources on how
to live well and farm well. That's farmstrong dot co
dot Nz. Up next, hopefully the Sapaul Homes Broadcaster of
the Year, Hea the Duplessy Allen Money on the man again,

(33:48):
Welcome back to the country. Brought to you by Brands.
We can't find Winston. He's been trying to get into
colms with us, but we keep losing him. But we
can go better than Winston today we can go with
the Sir Paul Home Broadcaster of the Year, the big
gong last night at the New Zealand Radio and Podcast Awards,
Heather Duplessy. Allen, Heather, great to have you on the

(34:09):
show to talk a week bit of politics. Well well done,
cousin Heather, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (34:13):
Well and to you cousin, Jamie, what about your award?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
That's not bad.

Speaker 9 (34:16):
You've got one of those little gold bricks as well,
didn't you.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Well, they're not little, they're enormous. I know they weigh
a ton. I reckon, my bag's going to be overweight
when I head back down there. But Barry got one
of those lifetime achievements sort of things. It's when they're
about I reckon, you get them when they're about to
put you out to pasture heather, so they could be
be careful what you wish for there, but not about me.
I want to talk to You've got one of those
bricks as well, but yours was for the top prize

(34:41):
of the night, the Sir Paul Holmes Broadcaster of the Year.
So you beat the rest of the field. Well done,
I mean, can you believe it?

Speaker 9 (34:47):
I honestly, Jamie, it's an indication of how surprised I
am that I wasn't even there. I didn't even take
the day off work.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
I was doing my show and then I was on my.

Speaker 9 (34:55):
Way to go to the toilet, I said the producer Sam.
I said, Sam, I'm off to do a week. I'll
see you at the after party and this young man
I don't even know who he was, came up to
me with his phone and he was like, look at this,
and it was the live stream, and that's how I
found out.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well, someone should have given you.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
The heads up.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
I don't think they do that.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Well, no, like I was told about a month ago,
we want you to come up to the Radio Awards
and I no, no, and I said, look, not my
cup of tea. I've been entering for thirty years and
never won anything, so I can't be bothered. And they said, oh,
you better turn up. But I guess that's because I'm
from out of town. So I'm surprised she didn't want
to get the nudge in the wink Heather.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
No.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
What they did was they thought that Jamie McKay is
going to do a beautiful speech, so we'll get him there,
but keep Heather away because she's likely to say something outrageous.
So then they got the German, the producer up instead.
That was obviously the play and.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
You realize what she said she had to put up
with all your shit was the words she used heither.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
Yes, yes? And is that an accurate channey because you
also have.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
To exactly as I said the other last night on
your show. The only soft thing about you is your
teeth and that's a compliment. By the way, Hey, what
have you made of the weaken politics? I mean we've
had Look, I'm trying to get Winston on because he's
been right, he's been racking up the Maori Party and
he what did he say to a rowery white t

(36:13):
riddle me that cowboy hat.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
Look, I think the thing about what's going on at
the moment. Unfortunately we've kind of put this nonsense to
bed and they've copped their punishment. But it is I mean,
I think it's not really the end of the matter, right,
because they will milk the twenty one day punishment that
they've got for as long as they possibly can. But
the thing to understand about this is that this is
incredibly awkward for Labor because labor needs more awkward than

(36:38):
for anybody, because Labor needs to be makes with these guys,
but also needs to not be too tight with them
because they kind of repulse most voters.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
So it's really bloody awkward to them.

Speaker 9 (36:46):
It's kind of awkward for National because they're seen as
the ones who are bullying the Malori Party here with
this punishment. Everybody else This plays incredibly well, right New
Zealand's person loves it. Winston loves it, Act loves it.
Put in lover because they can look at the Greens
lover because they can, you know, play the victim part
of somebody else. So for the minor parties, it's excellent.
For everybody else, not Jennie, I'm sorry about the noise.

(37:09):
I'm sitting in the gym and they're all coming past me.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now, oh well, they're all wanting to rub shoulders with
the broadcaster of the year. Hey, just finally for you.
I'm going to be chatting to Chippy next week at
field Days and he won't get a wonderful reception down there.
But I almost feel sorry for him. He's unelectable with
the party, Maury and the Greens just twenty seconds.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
Yeah, look, he is unelectable with them, and I would
also feel sorry for him. I would feel sorry because
it's such a lovely smiley face. But just remember Jamie,
all of the nonsense that he.

Speaker 8 (37:38):
Put us through with COVID.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
That guy is an absolute politician.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Don't feel too sorry for him. I won't. Mate.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Hey, thank you very much and congratulations well deserved the
support Homes Broadcaster of the Year. That's us done and
dusted out of Auckland thanks to Rowena. Thanks to Andy McDonald.
We'll catch you back in Dunedin on Monday.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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