March 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Kate Scott, Sir David Fagan, Sam Owen, Chris Brandolino, Rachel Shearer, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Geta New Zealand and welcome to other Country. I'm Jamie McKay,
trying desperately to get some people on the phone, namely
Sir David Fagan. Day two. I think yes, they started
yesterday with the speed. She is at the New Zealand
Shares and TIKUWETI so David Fagan, hopefully very shortly. Kate
Scott is the chief executive of Horticulture New Zealand. She's
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in Singapore at the moment, waiting patiently on hold. We're
going to go to her and of course Horticulture New
Zealand's quite rightly saying we should be growing food, not
houses on their best land. Chris Brandolino from Neewith, sam
owen Waycado farmer, AG teacher at Madamata College and rural
mental health advocate. He's a keynote speaker at the side
(01:29):
Conference South Island Dairy event coming up in Timaru on
April seventh to nine. Rachel Shearer, what a great name
for the woman who's running wall for PGG rights and
I think she has been or is at Kerwee. We'll
catch her a bit later in the hour and hopefully
because it is day three at kerwe for the South
Island Field Days, We're going to talk to our friends
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at Toyota see if they've sold any of those high
luck shots. But David Fagan, very very shortly, we're going
to kick it off with Kate Scott and Singapore. Oh
and music, by the way, before I forget, this is
Status Quo The Quo rock and all over the world.
This kicked off band aid or live age should I say,
way back in nineteen eighty five. And the reason I'm
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playing this is because Sir Bob Geldoff is in town
and Auckland tonight, Wellington tomorrow night for his shows.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Enjoy them if you're going along.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So bright and breezy up early in Singapore is the
chief executive Aporta Culture New Zealand, Kate Scott. Kate, We're
going to come back to what you're doing and Singapore
on behalf of the horticulture growers of the country. But
I want to ask you about this week's announcement around reforms.
Are we going to end up growing houses where we
should be growing vegetables.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Look, I think that's a good question. And as many
of your listeners are probably aware, there was an announcement
yesterday of the intention to make some changes to the
National Policy Statement of a Highly Productive Land which would
see the removal of past through land from that National
policy statement. And I guess that's around enabling or from
the government's perspective, enabling greater development of how the from
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our water culture New Zealand perspective, one of the things
that we're concerned about is the fact that this is
also the land where our fresh fruit vegetables are growing
in close proximity to our city. Then what does that
do or what are the challenges that that presents if
that land's no longer available for Britain vegetable production.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, we've seen what's happened in Pokacoe. Surely the cities
in New Zealand need to grow up, not out. We've
got to protect areas such as Pokacoe, horror Fanua another
area good market gardening area.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Look, those are both two of our key growing regions
for vegetables within New Zealand, and I think the biggest
challenge both the horror Fin and Cockacola growers are facing
at the moment is the real lack of certainty around
being able to actually even get in sense to continue
to farm. And that's because of underlying rules in their
various regional plans. And when we've got changes to the
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HBO that makes it easier to grow houses but harder
to grow vegetables, it makes you wonder how are we
going to navigate them?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So what are you going to do on behalf of
Horticulture New Zealand to petition the government to reinstate some
common sense around us Kate Scott.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Look, we've been working very hard on behalf of vegetable
Growers in particular over the last twelve months to really
talk to how important it is to enable vegetable production.
Now I think it's really clear that we need to
make sure that they can continue to deliver for our
food security needs in the New Zealand context, and in particular,
I think from my point of view, we need to
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make sure that they can do that in a way
that allows them to grow their fruit and vegetables as
a permitted activity. But we must make sure that they
can do that with a good farm practices in place
and with farm plans, and I think that's a pretty
simple request and I think most people would understand how
important it is to be able to access for fruit
and vegetables.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Really annoys me, Kate. It's pine trees at one end,
and how's is it the other. We're continually pinching our
productive land. Don't start me on that one. Hey, what
are you doing in Singapore?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Look, I've been up in Singapore for the last week
as part of a land use Change in Food Systems
diversity trip which has had roughly twenty five people from
across the primary set the spectrum in New Zealand, from
farmers to people in industry and business. And look, what's
been really fascinating from my point of view is actually
some of the contrasts we see between Singapore and New Zealand. So,
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for those who don't know, Singapore as a country is
about the size of Lake Tapo has a population similar
to New Zealand of about six million people. Their biggest
challenge is how do they feed their people? And so
their government's doing a lot of work at the moment.
They have a plan and a purpose around it's called
their thirty by thirty plan, which is where they've set
some ambitious goals to securing thirty percent of their food
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supply locally by twenty thirty. And I guess what it's
highlighted for me is you, we are a large country
in New Zealand, we have an abundance of land. Singapore,
on the other hand, are a very small country who
wish they had more land. So there's been some interesting contrast.
One of the most interesting things I've probably seen has
been how well supported the ecosystem is in Singapore to
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try and drive innovation across ad tech sector is an
interesting example of that. It's been really insightful.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
A final comment from you, because we're in the heart
of the horticulture season. Key we fruit starting to come off,
the apples are being harvested. We're getting well through that one. Look,
things are looking pretty good return wise for those two
key areas anyhow, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That's right. Look, both are talking to apple growers over
the last few months. Some of them are reporting their
best season ever. Watch, particularly for those growers who are
impacted by the cyclone, is really good to see. After
a couple of pretty average years. Kiwi fruit once again
continues to have a strong presence and pricing seems to
be reasonable at the moment, which you know bodes well
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for the.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Tax onwards and upwards and let's grow food not houses.
Kate Scott Safe travels home tonight from Singapore.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Thanks Jamie, Thank you Kate.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
For some of your time. Fourteen after twelve you're with
the Country. It's brought to you by Brand. They're not
at the South Island Field Days because they're North Island based.
We're going to try and track down some of the
action on day three of the South Island Field Days
at Kerwe. But up next it's day two of the
New Zealand Shares at Tikuweti. We've managed to find them,
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I think Sir David Fagan up next. Yeah, so it
was Live aid at I think it was JFK Stadium
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in Philadelphia, Wembley of course in London. Phil Collins went
to both of them. I think he might have flown
on the concord. Madonna was as big as anyone on
the planet in nineteen eighty five, and in nineteen eighty
five our next guest was just starting to really make
a name for himself on the sharing circuit. Sir David Fagan.
I wouldn't be a mile away, would I with my timing?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah you showing the age brit knowing that, Jamie, but
yeah you spot on really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
When did you win your first Golden Shares.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Eighty six?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Eighty six?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
There you go, yeah, second second of my brother John.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But I remember the first sharing competition you ever won
there and there, to my own heart, was in Riversdale.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
South on Parandale Am Sharing Champs. It was called in Riversdale. Yeah.
It's been been a special place for me over the
years too. A lot of pretty good pickings down there
in the show and of course the world record at
Shallard's Place. So yeah, Riversdale's pretty close to my heart.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah me too.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Hey yeah, yea somewhere that's closer to your heart as
your hometown of tek Away. It's day two of the
New Zealand Shares of the Big Open Final. Of course
tomorrow night we'll come back to that one, but just
run us through what happens over the three days.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, well we've got right on now. It's all happening
right now that we've got all the lower grades and
we've just had the contractors relay elimination heats tonight is
the finals for the contract is really the big one
will be the Welsh New Zealand Test and then the
North Island Shearer the year final tonight, so that well
Welsh New Zealand Tests. It's a third third of a
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three test series. Kiwi Boys of David Burke and Jack
Fagan had to win it one Madino Shares and by
Toma last weekend, very very close margin last weekend. I
think it was only a point in it. So the
Welsh Bulls are actually gone really really well, so it
could go anyway tonight. But they had their first one
ever this time last year on New Zealand toil, so
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it's that the Kiwi boys can get up and beat
them again.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now you had the speed shares. Your boy Jack's are
always a favorite at those sort of events. He got
pipped at the post. He'll be he'll be keen to
set the record straight tonight.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean speeches are always a bit
hit and this anyway, but the Pirride Abram Abraham had
a good win in the Open here last night in
the speech here and of course tomorrow Saturday we've got
the big Open final. Of course tomorrow night but also
the the Zealand Shares Circuit Final where the Open winner
and the Circuit winner make the New Zealand team to
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go to the UK and France tour through July. So
plenty out for grabs and of course as part of
the World team selection circuit that ends next February at
Martin so selecting our New Zealand team for the Golden
Shares World Championships in March. So anyone that's anyone's here.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, and they're really keen for that one. Roland Smith
has sort of come out of retirement, sort of getting
back into it.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I see he's in.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
He's a tab he's eight bucks, a hot favorite, not
surprisingly for the Open title tomorrow night, as Tyer Henderson,
who of course broke through at the Golden Shares. He's
winning just about everything.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
David.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He's two dollars ten, which is sort of the odds
you were paying in your heyday.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, look to what's going well, there's no doubt about that.
He had went at WAMO the other weekend, just last Saturday,
David Burke was seeking Jack was third in that event.
But don't discount these other guys. David Burke, Roland Smith,
I mean Roland's eight bucks. I've never seen him out
that much, so there might be some pretty game people
putting some money on Roland, I would imagine. But you know,
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and there's a bunch of them in behind there too,
waiting for one little heck up from those guys, and
they'll be in like hungry dogs. So it's going to
be really interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, Leon Samuel's at nine dollars. He won the Golden
Shares what twenty twenty four? Yeah, so he's not out
of it either by a long shot.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Not at all. And yes, fools and the money, who
could pick it? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, I'm not a big punter, David, but I've got
a ta b acount. I think five bucks on a
Roland Smith that at eight dollars mightn't be a bad
week Friday night.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Bet for me.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yep, yep, I would agree. That's the most odds I
think we've ever seen him pay.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Okay, hey, now, I was going to ask you what
sort of weather you've got in Tekuwedi for the New
Zealand Shares, But I'm probably asking the wrong question to
the wrong bloke. You're a dairy farmer there as well,
and you guys are in the depths of a terrible drought.
Really you could do with some rain, but you don't
want rain on the back of the sheep, even though
they're all undercover heading into the shares.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Oh, we take rain if we'd come today, no problem.
Like year, we're daring. And we had a beef property too,
and we've been feeding out silos here on the beef
property since the end of January. Two weeks time, all
our sologs will be gone and we've just got to
do that to keep things ticking over for the sake
of the animals. So yeah, rain will be good. We've
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had about thirty mills since Christmas. I think that's all
we've had. And it's particularly dry Monday though.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, you're one day closer to rain, and you've got
to take a positive attitude otherwise it would do your head.
And but you've lived all your life in techuity. Have
you ever known it to be the strive the slate?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Oh, look, it is late and it's interesting, you know,
when farm's go on the market here in my lifetime,
people always say it's King Country summer safe, and we
traditionally work King Country Summer safe. But we've sort of
changed roles with over East coasts now and I believe
it'll come back again. But we don't get any droughts
up here, but we've got one at the moment. I
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do hear the older guys saying the worst one I
think was seventy two or seventy four. We'll get through it.
I remember a couple of years ago, three years ago,
it was very dry here and we changed sher milkers
come first to June and it was we had no
grass by the end of June with rain. Everyone was
going wat drought. You know, give us a month, it'll
turn around pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You can grow grass in the North Island even in
the winter. Yeah, the advantage over us South Island is
Sir David Fagan, thanks very much for your time.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yes, there we go thereas Sir David Fagan. What a champion.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Twenty three close to twenty four. After twelve you're with
the country. We're going to chat to Chris Brandolino also
shortly see if we sort of like a weekly rain
dance here on the country to see what we can
do for you. But we might stick with the King
Country Wakato Region Sam Owen used to be a dairy farmer.
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These days he's a beef farmer and a dairy grazer. Interestingly,
he's an agg teacher at Madamata College. An interesting story
about how he got into that one, and a rural
Mouth rural health advocate who's a keynote speaker at the
side conference coming up in Timaru early next month.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Which isn't a mile away.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And also mark this one on your calendar, folks, next Thursday.
It's April the third, I think our time, April the
second in America or in the United States. Will find
out what Trump is up to. He's certainly doing no
favors for world confidence, global uncertainty, the Wall markets suffering.
We're going to have a talk to Rachel Sharer about
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that one as well, and we're going to try and
track someone down at Kerwee day three of the South
Island Field Days and exst on the country is taking
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a lunch break from his teaching duties, believe it or not,
at Matamata College in the White Cato. His name is
Sam Owen, well known to listeners of the country. Sam,
you've been a former dairy farmer. You're now a dairy
grazer and now you're a teacher and a mental health advocate.
How do you fit all that into a day? My friend, the.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Alarm stock does as if I'm a dairy farmer, to
be honest, But it's having that priority, I suppose. And
I wasn't ever a great fan of teachers who didn't
do so to speak, they're still the old analogy. If
you can't do, you have to teach. But I'm still
trying to keep my hands dirty so I can actually
prove to the kids that I'm I'm still a dairy farmer.
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I don't think some of them like the smell of
silage when I walk in a bit late some mornings,
but hey, it's I enjoy it and it does credits
challenges but also creates the rewards as well.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Okay, well let's go back in time. You can tell
by the accent that your Welsh, while and while the
Welsh or Wales is not a dominating rugby side anything,
but the Welsh will be dominating outside the South Island area.
Event on yesterday's show, we spoke to Mrvan where Alexander
what a character she is north Otago farmer and I
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suggested to her, we've got too many people from the
wrong hemisphere running this outfit.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Sam, Well, it's probably the same as international rugby in
the North. We've got too many from the wrong hemisphere
running that too, But we won't go there, no Listen. Yeah,
I was approached by side to come and have it
and obviously looking for something a bit different. I've been
fortunate enough to interview Levane we on my wee bit
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of a side hustle with a podcast and she had
some interesting thoughts. But I mean, I'm just trying to,
you know, put it out there that you know, there
could be thousands of farmers in the country that could
speak about what I speak about. But I've probably been
a bit more vocal but my journey and try to
get people to pick up some hints and tips that
I've learned along the way.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Okay, Sam, So you're not only talking the talk, you've
effectively walked the walk. You've got a history of mental
health issues. Hopefully there behind you or are they ever
behind you?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
No?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I think never behind you. But I mean you have
to take the case of if you're not learning from
what you've been through, you're not really taking the most
out of the situation. Every situation, whether it be positive
or negative, offers constructive ideas for what you can improve on.
And I'm still walking the walk. The black dog is
always in the reavision meraphon now, but you never know
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when it's going to up in the cab with you
and come along for a road again. But listen, there's
different different elements to everything in different times where things
push you to limits, but you just have to take
you know, take the lessons from it and move on.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So one of the issues with mental health is often
taking a break and doing something else getting off farm
is does teaching do that for you?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
One hundred percent? And that's why I've never once we
we done the caps and left dairy farming, I'm make
sure that I wasn't being well roaded into just one job,
because I believe having that variety, whether it be you know,
a community good like coaching rugby or football, or doing
some rural sport work and mixing that up with what
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goes on farm helps me maintain a fairly even kill
because I'm not just sitting here looking at the window
at the green drape that we have in parts of
the white Head at the moment. It just gives me
a different aspect and a bit more thankful for what
I do and different kind of building up the good
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vibes because I'm doing different in different areas.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You're one of the guests speakers on the MC there
do you reckon that give us an afternoon off to
go and play golf while we're in Timaro?
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Well, I think if we used it for the betterment
of our men mental health.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I was just thinking about that. Mind you, you're like me,
a frustrated golfer. Golf can be very injurious to my
mental health, Sam, especially when I choke on the eighteenth hole.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
And it happens, But it builds up that, you know,
that strong backbone that you can go back because as
we all know, with any sport, there's only one shot
or one try or one pass that brings us back
the next week.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sam Owen, great to catch up on the country. You
are one of the keynote speakers along with Cameron Bagriy
Olympic rower Emma Twig. Really looking forward to hearing her.
The South Island Airy Event is on and Timaru on
April seven to nine.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Just google it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Registrations are still open. It's going to be a conference
designed especially for farmers, and it's good to have an
out and out farmer, namely you speaking there.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Great to catch up Sam Journey.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I'll look forward to see any.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Indeed, it is twenty eight away from one. You're with
the country playing songs from the Live Aid concert. This
is Spandal Ballet. I'm assuming Michelle good afternoon. By the way,
they would have been playing at Wembley, wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
And someone text them before asking if Status Quo were
the first act, and they were.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
They were the first, well sort of sort of. No
one likes the corrector well, sorry, but there was the
like the national anthem was first, and status of Status
Quo were the first.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
They were the first band.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, they were the first band. Let me let me
find out.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, so the cold Stream guards that the Royal salute
and then God Save the Queen and then it was
into it with the Quo rocking all over the world. Sorry, anyhow,
Sabob Geldoff's in town now. I'm talking about mental health
minds under severe threat at the moment. Not only did
I choke for all time at golf recently, but I'm
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used to that I'm being dragged along to a play
tonight by the program director.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
A play, Jamie. That's what's out of your comfort zone,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yes, totally out of my comfort zone. I said, well,
the Highlanders are playing, and she was having none of that.
So I've got to go and enjoy or endure the play.
I don't know, your good husband.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
You'll get Brownie points for glad you're not watching the
Highlights because I think you jinxed them last weekend.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well I didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I didn't think they'd beat the Reds, and I, as
it turned out, I was right, and I think they'll struggle.
They'll struggle. I hope I'm wrong on this one. I
think they'll struggle tonight in Canberra a hard place to
go to.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But never mind.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I will have seen the play and my cup will
be full. Who needs rugby when you can go to
the theater anyhow? Up next a Chris Briend Deleno from
Sound like such a Fellowstine, don't I welcome back to
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the country, Ozzie Osborne and Black Sabbath or live Aid
as well? I think he must he must have been
in Philadelphia, was he? We'll have a look at that one. Anyhow,
get ourselves organized. Chris Brandolino joins us on the country.
I was bemoaning the fact, Chris, that I've been dragged
along to I'm being dragged along to a play tonight,
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but I will get home in time, hopefully to see
the rugby. Does missus Brandolino try that sort of stuff
with you?
Speaker 9 (23:39):
There was a time when, you know, when we were dating,
early marriage, before kids, where let's go see musical, Let's
see a play.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm I'm up for a musical.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'm up for a musical, but I'm just not sure
whether I'm cultured enough for a play.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
I'd much rather see a player than a musical. But
what's funny is that I don't like with musicals. I'm like,
just talk to lyrics, don't sing them like that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Hang on, Chris, I'll tell you one you've got to
go to. I saw it on my pensions trip to
New York.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Six.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's the story. It's a great musical, and it's about
the six Wads of Henry the Eighth.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's very good.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Six wife my gosh, yeah, I imagine six of them,
one of them, one of them's hard enough. Anyhow, let's
get onto the weather. Can you can you be the
bearer of good news for us short term?
Speaker 9 (24:30):
No, we are going to see a little bit of
rain in the corn Handle this week and some showers
and a few showers in Aukland and Northland Saturday tomorrow,
so that will help places like Dargaville and Dire Straits
really used to rain in southwest Northland, so there will
be some but you know, we're talking a handful of
millimeters enough to keep the dust down.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I suppose.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
A bit of rain maybe in Tedanaki on Sunday, but
spotty showers. Are talking five millimeters or less. Basically beyond that,
we are going to have to castorize farther afield. We've
been talking about a late March or early April potential
for rain and that still looks to be true. It's
now going to be early April. It looks like and
I think when you and I are talking this time
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next week, we'll be talking about very likely some heavy
rain that will be impacting the west of the South Island.
That is a dry area, but that is an area
more importantly where we store our water for generating electricity,
so they've been quite dry. They'll use that rain for sure,
and then I think probably Friday and maybe the following weekend,
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we'll get some rain into the North Island. It won't
be as much as we need, not nearly enough, but
it will be certainly step in the right direction, and
hopefully we can get more after that. That's the ifpy part.
We probably we may get. We may get a bit
more after that, But as we look farther afield into April,
I think that it will be challenging to get persistent rain.
There may be a bit of a dry and lean
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still for parts of the upper North Island for April,
but as we progress past April, I think the odds
for more regular rainfall will increase for May and especially June.
So nothing in the short term, but I am hopeful
that beyond that we will get some good rains starting
with mid mainly later next week. She mention real quick
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jam before going back to you. It is with that
rain because their air will be coming from the northwest.
In the middle and later part of next week, it
will get exceptionally warm. There could be some temperatures next
week and not this but next week, and that could
come close to thirty potentially for eastern parts of either island,
particularly North Island. What we'll see in that that's still
far away.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Okay mate, thank you very much for your time. Chris
Brendolino there from Newway. Yes, Ozzie Osborne and Black Sabbath
were in Philadelphia and Michelle. You want to add to
the live aid conversation. No, I think so.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
I mean I was very very young when this happened,
so for me it's not even a memory.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Jamie, Well, it wasn't.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Although I am a bargain So I do love like Sabath.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, well everyone loves Black, so if everyone loves Ozzy Osbourne. Right,
let's see what you've got in rural news there with me?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Where is that sting gone? Here?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It is here the country's rural news with cub Cadet,
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Speaker 8 (27:19):
And this weekend the regional finals for the FMG Young
Farmer of the Year continue, with Arangi having its turn
at putting some of the region's top young agricultural talent
to the test to earn a spot at the grand
final in in Vericago.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
In July.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
The event is taking place tomorrow at the Ashburn and
Amp Showgrounds, where competitors will embark on a series of
tough challenges and finishing on a buzzer quiz. One competitor
hoping to make it two wins in a row is
Gareth Mcerrika from Pleasant Point and he's hoping to obviously
snatch victory for a second time. And that's your rural news.
What's happening in sport, Jamie?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
What I know, Michelle. Let's find out what a good
throw that was.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sport with AFCO visit them online at FCO dot co
dot Nz.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I got rid of the twelve thirty news bulletin because
it bored me, so I've gone back to the midday
sports check from our sports team in Auckland and look
at it. Nottingham Forest must be peeved off with New
Zealand and the All Whites because Chris Wood will miss
Nottingham Forest's FA Cup football quarter final away to Brighton
on Sunday due to the injury he sustained or suffered
(28:27):
in the All Blacks Oceania World Cup qualifying win over
New Caledonia in Wellington. They ended up winning quite comfortably
without him, and I'm just wondering whether he made the
right decision to come back. You've got to admire him.
But gee, Nottingham Forest, who are going pretty good in
the EPL. You would think they would have a good
chance away to Brighton, not that I know that much
(28:47):
about football. Bright And support her here right he And
this is a good story because this blokes a champion.
A chance for former Black Cap Neil Wagner to close
the latest chapter on his cricketing career in Ferry fairy
tale fashion. The sixty four Tests seam is confirmed. Northern
District's final round Plunket Shield match, starting tomorrow against Otago
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in Dunedin, will be his last domestic match in New Zealand.
ND have a seven point lead in the competition. Wagner
has never won the four day title and his made
in first class match on these shores was the exact
same fixture more than sixteen years ago, when, of course
he turned out for Otago. He is a lionheart. Good
(29:29):
luck Neil Wagner, you deserve your retirement. Up next we
talk wool with Rachel Sharer. What a great name for
a Wall correspondent. Let's continue the sharing and wall theme
(29:54):
today on the country. General manager of walland director of
a bidder is a Rachel Sharer from PGG Rights and Rachel. Unfortunately,
I don't want to shoot the messenger, but we're seeing
a bit of a correction in the strong wall market.
Not good at all, but the world is such an
uncertain place.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
At the moment.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
That's absolutely correct. The market is continuing, I would say,
to drift more towards the buyer's market for most types lands,
although and the poorer colored fleeces are the most affected.
But look, there is some key demand areas still some
of the adult wall is remaining in demand, particularly that
of a good color that's with low VM, that wall
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that's been really well prepared, that's still in demand, albeit
it probably unlimited volumes at the moment. But yes, we
are starting to see the impact of seasonal conditions on
wall quality, which is impacting on price as well. As
you've mentioned, some of this uncertainty that's out in the
world at the moment is really I think starting to
play into the hands of exporters meeting some of that
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resistance from the major market.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, well, as we get through the sharing season, the
color deterior rates that's just nature them. Vegetable matter half
on and increases as you get through the season as well.
But hand on heart, Rachel, is it worth preparing your
wall or should you just chuck it straight from the
board into the press?
Speaker 10 (31:16):
Oh? Never, chuck it straight from the orden that well.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I used to when I was sharing.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Yeah, Well, good preparation is key at the moment, and
that's where we're starting to see some of the better
prices coming through.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
The exports.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Is saying it's really evident when will has been prepared. Well,
it's still starting to see some decent prices there, so
it is worth it. But I think that at this
stage is we're navigating these market fluctuations, we're navigating these
uncertainties and global trade, it's really key to have a
pretty strategic selling mechanisms, whether that's you know, putting part
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of the clip into a forward contract, putting some of
them on the spot market, whatever it might be. Having
those discuss to determine which way is best at the
moment to sell, because nothing is guaranteed at the moment,
that's for sure. On the global scale, of.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Course, we've got the New Zealand shares and Tikawadi. We've
got the South Island Field Days, coul we I see
PGG rights and one best site overall. Stephen Geron will
be pleased about that.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
He's absolutely delighted as we are as the whole team.
And I was out there yesterday.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
What a great day.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
It was great Canterbury Day, not like the mud from
a couple of years ago. And yeah, we're really proud
as PGG Rights and having the best site, and I
think it was a well deserved one. We've actually got
our Wooll Integrity Easter decorations out there. Those are the
Easter decorations made from traceable New Zealand frost spread wall
that's been grown here and then handmade by our Fred
(32:44):
fair Trade partners in Nepal and those Easter decorations are
flying out as well. But yeah, really awesome to see
the field days and better for Cannabary Day.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yep, not too late to get out there today and
have a look at the best site at the Field Days.
Rache'll share a GM of WOL for PGG Rights. Thanks
for your time on.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
The country, Thanks the chance to talk. We know.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I really liked Hall and Oates in the eighties Michelle
doesn't even know what I'm talking about. They were at
Live Aid as well at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia. Barry
Soapers wrapping the country. We were trying to get someone
at Kerwee today for day three. We hear it's a
good day there. Unfortunately our contact that Toyota didn't come through.
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I'm sure they're selling plenty of those high lux hybrid uts.
And just before we go to Barry's Soaper, this is
by the way Hall and Oats and out of touch Barry.
This is a good segue and lead into tamotha Paul.
But I just want to get this message out from
Farmstrong before I forget about it. Talking about Canterbury. Farmstrong's
(33:59):
shall out as tonight's Harvesting Health Wellbeing Tools for Rural
Life event happening in North Canterbury. There's a top lineup
of well being experts, including local legends from the Crusaders.
A wonder if Big Stewlo's going. They'll be sharing tips
about how to look after mind and body so you
can perform at your best on farm. It's all good
(34:21):
practical stuff. Kicks off at six and it's three, so
get along to that. It is in North Canterbury. Tonight,
Barry Soper out of touch describes Tamotha Paul. What has
she been smoking?
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, you'd have to think she was
on something.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Wouldn't you.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
It's incredible. Really, abolish the police. What do you have? Anarchy?
And she seems to feel that people are intimidated by
seeing cops wandering around on the beat. Well, they must
be an absolute majority of minority and have something to hide.
I just can't believe that this woman that we pay
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the best part of two hundred k a year four
comes out with statements like that. Not only that, Jamie,
you remember she said essentially that people, most of the
people in prison, the people that are there because they
have some mental capacity, and in fact, you're there for
(35:25):
stealing a life of bread to feed the family, rather
than what is reality, that they're there because they're violent
and they're yeah, Perry, and then she tried to say
that someone was in there for stealing something worth twelve dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
She's a nut job. There's too many of them, right, Hey,
just getting this is totally off the script. And I
don't even know if you've caught up with the story
because I wasn't expecting to chat to you today, Barry.
It's a bonus getting you on. Did you pick up
that story that zedb ran this morning about this research
is wanting a way to remove infirm prime and this
(36:00):
comes off the back of Biden obviously, But they studied
for prime ministers Michael, Joseph Savage, Norman Kirk, there was
the other one, Joseph Wort. Yeah, all infirmed due to illness.
And then they talked about your old mate, Sir Robert.
It was the heavy drinking that got in.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Well, indeed it was. And there are so many stories
about Rob Muldern that I won't bore you with here,
but I'm sure I have done in the past. Jamie. Yeah,
he was in the end not capable essentially of running
the country and I think that showed when he hung
on klang on to power after David Longley won the
(36:41):
Treasury benches and refused to give it up until he
is virtually forced out. But I've seen examples of Muldourn
being totally incapable of being in the position of Prime minister.
But that's not to say that other prime ministers not
in terms of drink, but that been really woeful as well,
(37:02):
and their ability to handle that particular job. So he's
not on his own. I could tell many stories about
many prime ministers.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, okay, I've got like ten seconds left. Are you
going to write a book?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I'm in the process of doing that joke.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
You know where all the skeletons are buried. I look
forward to that. See you later, Baz cheers, Jo there
we go.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
That would be a good book. Barry sober.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
When he does finish that one, that's us done and dusted.
We'll after I enjoy the play tonight, I'll enjoy the
Highlanders Go the Lands.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Catch you back on Monday.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Geta New Zealand and welcome to other Country. I'm Jamie McKay,
trying desperately to get some people on the phone, namely
Sir David Fagan. Day two. I think yes, they started
yesterday with the speed. She is at the New Zealand
Shares and TIKUWETI so David Fagan, hopefully very shortly. Kate
Scott is the chief executive of Horticulture New Zealand. She's
(01:08):
in Singapore at the moment, waiting patiently on hold. We're
going to go to her and of course Horticulture New
Zealand's quite rightly saying we should be growing food, not
houses on their best land. Chris Brandolino from Neewith, sam
owen Waycado farmer, AG teacher at Madamata College and rural
mental health advocate. He's a keynote speaker at the side
(01:29):
Conference South Island Dairy event coming up in Timaru on
April seventh to nine. Rachel Shearer, what a great name
for the woman who's running wall for PGG rights and
I think she has been or is at Kerwee. We'll
catch her a bit later in the hour and hopefully
because it is day three at kerwe for the South
Island Field Days, We're going to talk to our friends
(01:52):
at Toyota see if they've sold any of those high
luck shots. But David Fagan, very very shortly, we're going
to kick it off with Kate Scott and Singapore. Oh
and music, by the way, before I forget, this is
Status Quo The Quo rock and all over the world.
This kicked off band aid or live age should I say,
way back in nineteen eighty five. And the reason I'm
(02:14):
playing this is because Sir Bob Geldoff is in town
and Auckland tonight, Wellington tomorrow night for his shows.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Enjoy them if you're going along.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So bright and breezy up early in Singapore is the
chief executive Aporta Culture New Zealand, Kate Scott. Kate, We're
going to come back to what you're doing and Singapore
on behalf of the horticulture growers of the country. But
I want to ask you about this week's announcement around reforms.
Are we going to end up growing houses where we
should be growing vegetables.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Look, I think that's a good question. And as many
of your listeners are probably aware, there was an announcement
yesterday of the intention to make some changes to the
National Policy Statement of a Highly Productive Land which would
see the removal of past through land from that National
policy statement. And I guess that's around enabling or from
the government's perspective, enabling greater development of how the from
(03:29):
our water culture New Zealand perspective, one of the things
that we're concerned about is the fact that this is
also the land where our fresh fruit vegetables are growing
in close proximity to our city. Then what does that
do or what are the challenges that that presents if
that land's no longer available for Britain vegetable production.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, we've seen what's happened in Pokacoe. Surely the cities
in New Zealand need to grow up, not out. We've
got to protect areas such as Pokacoe, horror Fanua another
area good market gardening area.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Look, those are both two of our key growing regions
for vegetables within New Zealand, and I think the biggest
challenge both the horror Fin and Cockacola growers are facing
at the moment is the real lack of certainty around
being able to actually even get in sense to continue
to farm. And that's because of underlying rules in their
various regional plans. And when we've got changes to the
(04:24):
HBO that makes it easier to grow houses but harder
to grow vegetables, it makes you wonder how are we
going to navigate them?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So what are you going to do on behalf of
Horticulture New Zealand to petition the government to reinstate some
common sense around us Kate Scott.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Look, we've been working very hard on behalf of vegetable
Growers in particular over the last twelve months to really
talk to how important it is to enable vegetable production.
Now I think it's really clear that we need to
make sure that they can continue to deliver for our
food security needs in the New Zealand context, and in particular,
I think from my point of view, we need to
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make sure that they can do that in a way
that allows them to grow their fruit and vegetables as
a permitted activity. But we must make sure that they
can do that with a good farm practices in place
and with farm plans, and I think that's a pretty
simple request and I think most people would understand how
important it is to be able to access for fruit
and vegetables.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Really annoys me, Kate. It's pine trees at one end,
and how's is it the other. We're continually pinching our
productive land. Don't start me on that one. Hey, what
are you doing in Singapore?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Look, I've been up in Singapore for the last week
as part of a land use Change in Food Systems
diversity trip which has had roughly twenty five people from
across the primary set the spectrum in New Zealand, from
farmers to people in industry and business. And look, what's
been really fascinating from my point of view is actually
some of the contrasts we see between Singapore and New Zealand. So,
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for those who don't know, Singapore as a country is
about the size of Lake Tapo has a population similar
to New Zealand of about six million people. Their biggest
challenge is how do they feed their people? And so
their government's doing a lot of work at the moment.
They have a plan and a purpose around it's called
their thirty by thirty plan, which is where they've set
some ambitious goals to securing thirty percent of their food
(06:15):
supply locally by twenty thirty. And I guess what it's
highlighted for me is you, we are a large country
in New Zealand, we have an abundance of land. Singapore,
on the other hand, are a very small country who
wish they had more land. So there's been some interesting contrast.
One of the most interesting things I've probably seen has
been how well supported the ecosystem is in Singapore to
(06:40):
try and drive innovation across ad tech sector is an
interesting example of that. It's been really insightful.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
A final comment from you, because we're in the heart
of the horticulture season. Key we fruit starting to come off,
the apples are being harvested. We're getting well through that one. Look,
things are looking pretty good return wise for those two
key areas anyhow, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That's right. Look, both are talking to apple growers over
the last few months. Some of them are reporting their
best season ever. Watch, particularly for those growers who are
impacted by the cyclone, is really good to see. After
a couple of pretty average years. Kiwi fruit once again
continues to have a strong presence and pricing seems to
be reasonable at the moment, which you know bodes well
(07:27):
for the.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Tax onwards and upwards and let's grow food not houses.
Kate Scott Safe travels home tonight from Singapore.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Thanks Jamie, Thank you Kate.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
For some of your time. Fourteen after twelve you're with
the Country. It's brought to you by Brand. They're not
at the South Island Field Days because they're North Island based.
We're going to try and track down some of the
action on day three of the South Island Field Days
at Kerwe. But up next it's day two of the
New Zealand Shares at Tikuweti. We've managed to find them,
(07:59):
I think Sir David Fagan up next. Yeah, so it
was Live aid at I think it was JFK Stadium
(08:24):
in Philadelphia, Wembley of course in London. Phil Collins went
to both of them. I think he might have flown
on the concord. Madonna was as big as anyone on
the planet in nineteen eighty five, and in nineteen eighty
five our next guest was just starting to really make
a name for himself on the sharing circuit. Sir David Fagan.
I wouldn't be a mile away, would I with my timing?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah you showing the age brit knowing that, Jamie, but
yeah you spot on really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
When did you win your first Golden Shares.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Eighty six?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Eighty six?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
There you go, yeah, second second of my brother John.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But I remember the first sharing competition you ever won
there and there, to my own heart, was in Riversdale.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
South on Parandale Am Sharing Champs. It was called in Riversdale. Yeah.
It's been been a special place for me over the
years too. A lot of pretty good pickings down there
in the show and of course the world record at
Shallard's Place. So yeah, Riversdale's pretty close to my heart.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah me too.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Hey yeah, yea somewhere that's closer to your heart as
your hometown of tek Away. It's day two of the
New Zealand Shares of the Big Open Final. Of course
tomorrow night we'll come back to that one, but just
run us through what happens over the three days.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, well we've got right on now. It's all happening
right now that we've got all the lower grades and
we've just had the contractors relay elimination heats tonight is
the finals for the contract is really the big one
will be the Welsh New Zealand Test and then the
North Island Shearer the year final tonight, so that well
Welsh New Zealand Tests. It's a third third of a
(09:58):
three test series. Kiwi Boys of David Burke and Jack
Fagan had to win it one Madino Shares and by
Toma last weekend, very very close margin last weekend. I
think it was only a point in it. So the
Welsh Bulls are actually gone really really well, so it
could go anyway tonight. But they had their first one
ever this time last year on New Zealand toil, so
(10:19):
it's that the Kiwi boys can get up and beat
them again.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now you had the speed shares. Your boy Jack's are
always a favorite at those sort of events. He got
pipped at the post. He'll be he'll be keen to
set the record straight tonight.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean speeches are always a bit
hit and this anyway, but the Pirride Abram Abraham had
a good win in the Open here last night in
the speech here and of course tomorrow Saturday we've got
the big Open final. Of course tomorrow night but also
the the Zealand Shares Circuit Final where the Open winner
and the Circuit winner make the New Zealand team to
(10:53):
go to the UK and France tour through July. So
plenty out for grabs and of course as part of
the World team selection circuit that ends next February at
Martin so selecting our New Zealand team for the Golden
Shares World Championships in March. So anyone that's anyone's here.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, and they're really keen for that one. Roland Smith
has sort of come out of retirement, sort of getting
back into it.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I see he's in.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
He's a tab he's eight bucks, a hot favorite, not
surprisingly for the Open title tomorrow night, as Tyer Henderson,
who of course broke through at the Golden Shares. He's
winning just about everything.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
David.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He's two dollars ten, which is sort of the odds
you were paying in your heyday.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, look to what's going well, there's no doubt about that.
He had went at WAMO the other weekend, just last Saturday,
David Burke was seeking Jack was third in that event.
But don't discount these other guys. David Burke, Roland Smith,
I mean Roland's eight bucks. I've never seen him out
that much, so there might be some pretty game people
putting some money on Roland, I would imagine. But you know,
(11:56):
and there's a bunch of them in behind there too,
waiting for one little heck up from those guys, and
they'll be in like hungry dogs. So it's going to
be really interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, Leon Samuel's at nine dollars. He won the Golden
Shares what twenty twenty four? Yeah, so he's not out
of it either by a long shot.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Not at all. And yes, fools and the money, who
could pick it? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, I'm not a big punter, David, but I've got
a ta b acount. I think five bucks on a
Roland Smith that at eight dollars mightn't be a bad
week Friday night.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Bet for me.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yep, yep, I would agree. That's the most odds I
think we've ever seen him pay.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Okay, hey, now, I was going to ask you what
sort of weather you've got in Tekuwedi for the New
Zealand Shares, But I'm probably asking the wrong question to
the wrong bloke. You're a dairy farmer there as well,
and you guys are in the depths of a terrible drought.
Really you could do with some rain, but you don't
want rain on the back of the sheep, even though
they're all undercover heading into the shares.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Oh, we take rain if we'd come today, no problem.
Like year, we're daring. And we had a beef property too,
and we've been feeding out silos here on the beef
property since the end of January. Two weeks time, all
our sologs will be gone and we've just got to
do that to keep things ticking over for the sake
of the animals. So yeah, rain will be good. We've
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had about thirty mills since Christmas. I think that's all
we've had. And it's particularly dry Monday though.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, you're one day closer to rain, and you've got
to take a positive attitude otherwise it would do your head.
And but you've lived all your life in techuity. Have
you ever known it to be the strive the slate?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Oh, look, it is late and it's interesting, you know,
when farm's go on the market here in my lifetime,
people always say it's King Country summer safe, and we
traditionally work King Country Summer safe. But we've sort of
changed roles with over East coasts now and I believe
it'll come back again. But we don't get any droughts
up here, but we've got one at the moment. I
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do hear the older guys saying the worst one I
think was seventy two or seventy four. We'll get through it.
I remember a couple of years ago, three years ago,
it was very dry here and we changed sher milkers
come first to June and it was we had no
grass by the end of June with rain. Everyone was
going wat drought. You know, give us a month, it'll
turn around pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You can grow grass in the North Island even in
the winter. Yeah, the advantage over us South Island is
Sir David Fagan, thanks very much for your time.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yes, there we go thereas Sir David Fagan. What a champion.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Twenty three close to twenty four. After twelve you're with
the country. We're going to chat to Chris Brandolino also
shortly see if we sort of like a weekly rain
dance here on the country to see what we can
do for you. But we might stick with the King
Country Wakato Region Sam Owen used to be a dairy farmer.
(14:52):
These days he's a beef farmer and a dairy grazer. Interestingly,
he's an agg teacher at Madamata College. An interesting story
about how he got into that one, and a rural
Mouth rural health advocate who's a keynote speaker at the
side conference coming up in Timaru early next month.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Which isn't a mile away.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And also mark this one on your calendar, folks, next Thursday.
It's April the third, I think our time, April the
second in America or in the United States. Will find
out what Trump is up to. He's certainly doing no
favors for world confidence, global uncertainty, the Wall markets suffering.
We're going to have a talk to Rachel Sharer about
(15:38):
that one as well, and we're going to try and
track someone down at Kerwee day three of the South
Island Field Days and exst on the country is taking
(16:01):
a lunch break from his teaching duties, believe it or not,
at Matamata College in the White Cato. His name is
Sam Owen, well known to listeners of the country. Sam,
you've been a former dairy farmer. You're now a dairy
grazer and now you're a teacher and a mental health advocate.
How do you fit all that into a day? My friend, the.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Alarm stock does as if I'm a dairy farmer, to
be honest, But it's having that priority, I suppose. And
I wasn't ever a great fan of teachers who didn't
do so to speak, they're still the old analogy. If
you can't do, you have to teach. But I'm still
trying to keep my hands dirty so I can actually
prove to the kids that I'm I'm still a dairy farmer.
(16:46):
I don't think some of them like the smell of
silage when I walk in a bit late some mornings,
but hey, it's I enjoy it and it does credits
challenges but also creates the rewards as well.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Okay, well let's go back in time. You can tell
by the accent that your Welsh, while and while the
Welsh or Wales is not a dominating rugby side anything,
but the Welsh will be dominating outside the South Island area.
Event on yesterday's show, we spoke to Mrvan where Alexander
what a character she is north Otago farmer and I
(17:18):
suggested to her, we've got too many people from the
wrong hemisphere running this outfit.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Sam, Well, it's probably the same as international rugby in
the North. We've got too many from the wrong hemisphere
running that too, But we won't go there, no Listen. Yeah,
I was approached by side to come and have it
and obviously looking for something a bit different. I've been
fortunate enough to interview Levane we on my wee bit
(17:46):
of a side hustle with a podcast and she had
some interesting thoughts. But I mean, I'm just trying to,
you know, put it out there that you know, there
could be thousands of farmers in the country that could
speak about what I speak about. But I've probably been
a bit more vocal but my journey and try to
get people to pick up some hints and tips that
I've learned along the way.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Okay, Sam, So you're not only talking the talk, you've
effectively walked the walk. You've got a history of mental
health issues. Hopefully there behind you or are they ever
behind you?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
No?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I think never behind you. But I mean you have
to take the case of if you're not learning from
what you've been through, you're not really taking the most
out of the situation. Every situation, whether it be positive
or negative, offers constructive ideas for what you can improve on.
And I'm still walking the walk. The black dog is
always in the reavision meraphon now, but you never know
(18:38):
when it's going to up in the cab with you
and come along for a road again. But listen, there's
different different elements to everything in different times where things
push you to limits, but you just have to take
you know, take the lessons from it and move on.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So one of the issues with mental health is often
taking a break and doing something else getting off farm
is does teaching do that for you?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
One hundred percent? And that's why I've never once we
we done the caps and left dairy farming, I'm make
sure that I wasn't being well roaded into just one job,
because I believe having that variety, whether it be you know,
a community good like coaching rugby or football, or doing
some rural sport work and mixing that up with what
(19:28):
goes on farm helps me maintain a fairly even kill
because I'm not just sitting here looking at the window
at the green drape that we have in parts of
the white Head at the moment. It just gives me
a different aspect and a bit more thankful for what
I do and different kind of building up the good
(19:49):
vibes because I'm doing different in different areas.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You're one of the guests speakers on the MC there
do you reckon that give us an afternoon off to
go and play golf while we're in Timaro?
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Well, I think if we used it for the betterment
of our men mental health.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I was just thinking about that. Mind you, you're like me,
a frustrated golfer. Golf can be very injurious to my
mental health, Sam, especially when I choke on the eighteenth hole.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
And it happens, But it builds up that, you know,
that strong backbone that you can go back because as
we all know, with any sport, there's only one shot
or one try or one pass that brings us back
the next week.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sam Owen, great to catch up on the country. You
are one of the keynote speakers along with Cameron Bagriy
Olympic rower Emma Twig. Really looking forward to hearing her.
The South Island Airy Event is on and Timaru on
April seven to nine.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Just google it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Registrations are still open. It's going to be a conference
designed especially for farmers, and it's good to have an
out and out farmer, namely you speaking there.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Great to catch up Sam Journey.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I'll look forward to see any.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Indeed, it is twenty eight away from one. You're with
the country playing songs from the Live Aid concert. This
is Spandal Ballet. I'm assuming Michelle good afternoon. By the way,
they would have been playing at Wembley, wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
And someone text them before asking if Status Quo were
the first act, and they were.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
They were the first, well sort of sort of. No
one likes the corrector well, sorry, but there was the
like the national anthem was first, and status of Status
Quo were the first.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
They were the first band.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, they were the first band. Let me let me
find out.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, so the cold Stream guards that the Royal salute
and then God Save the Queen and then it was
into it with the Quo rocking all over the world. Sorry, anyhow,
Sabob Geldoff's in town now. I'm talking about mental health
minds under severe threat at the moment. Not only did
I choke for all time at golf recently, but I'm
(21:57):
used to that I'm being dragged along to a play
tonight by the program director.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
A play, Jamie. That's what's out of your comfort zone,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yes, totally out of my comfort zone. I said, well,
the Highlanders are playing, and she was having none of that.
So I've got to go and enjoy or endure the play.
I don't know, your good husband.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
You'll get Brownie points for glad you're not watching the
Highlights because I think you jinxed them last weekend.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well I didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I didn't think they'd beat the Reds, and I, as
it turned out, I was right, and I think they'll struggle.
They'll struggle. I hope I'm wrong on this one. I
think they'll struggle tonight in Canberra a hard place to
go to.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But never mind.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I will have seen the play and my cup will
be full. Who needs rugby when you can go to
the theater anyhow? Up next a Chris Briend Deleno from
Sound like such a Fellowstine, don't I welcome back to
(23:11):
the country, Ozzie Osborne and Black Sabbath or live Aid
as well? I think he must he must have been
in Philadelphia, was he? We'll have a look at that one. Anyhow,
get ourselves organized. Chris Brandolino joins us on the country.
I was bemoaning the fact, Chris, that I've been dragged
along to I'm being dragged along to a play tonight,
(23:32):
but I will get home in time, hopefully to see
the rugby. Does missus Brandolino try that sort of stuff
with you?
Speaker 9 (23:39):
There was a time when, you know, when we were dating,
early marriage, before kids, where let's go see musical, Let's
see a play.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm I'm up for a musical.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'm up for a musical, but I'm just not sure
whether I'm cultured enough for a play.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
I'd much rather see a player than a musical. But
what's funny is that I don't like with musicals. I'm like,
just talk to lyrics, don't sing them like that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Hang on, Chris, I'll tell you one you've got to
go to. I saw it on my pensions trip to
New York.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Six.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's the story. It's a great musical, and it's about
the six Wads of Henry the Eighth.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's very good.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Six wife my gosh, yeah, I imagine six of them,
one of them, one of them's hard enough. Anyhow, let's
get onto the weather. Can you can you be the
bearer of good news for us short term?
Speaker 9 (24:30):
No, we are going to see a little bit of
rain in the corn Handle this week and some showers
and a few showers in Aukland and Northland Saturday tomorrow,
so that will help places like Dargaville and Dire Straits
really used to rain in southwest Northland, so there will
be some but you know, we're talking a handful of
millimeters enough to keep the dust down.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I suppose.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
A bit of rain maybe in Tedanaki on Sunday, but
spotty showers. Are talking five millimeters or less. Basically beyond that,
we are going to have to castorize farther afield. We've
been talking about a late March or early April potential
for rain and that still looks to be true. It's
now going to be early April. It looks like and
I think when you and I are talking this time
(25:14):
next week, we'll be talking about very likely some heavy
rain that will be impacting the west of the South Island.
That is a dry area, but that is an area
more importantly where we store our water for generating electricity,
so they've been quite dry. They'll use that rain for sure,
and then I think probably Friday and maybe the following weekend,
(25:34):
we'll get some rain into the North Island. It won't
be as much as we need, not nearly enough, but
it will be certainly step in the right direction, and
hopefully we can get more after that. That's the ifpy part.
We probably we may get. We may get a bit
more after that, But as we look farther afield into April,
I think that it will be challenging to get persistent rain.
There may be a bit of a dry and lean
(25:55):
still for parts of the upper North Island for April,
but as we progress past April, I think the odds
for more regular rainfall will increase for May and especially June.
So nothing in the short term, but I am hopeful
that beyond that we will get some good rains starting
with mid mainly later next week. She mention real quick
(26:15):
jam before going back to you. It is with that
rain because their air will be coming from the northwest.
In the middle and later part of next week, it
will get exceptionally warm. There could be some temperatures next
week and not this but next week, and that could
come close to thirty potentially for eastern parts of either island,
particularly North Island. What we'll see in that that's still
far away.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Okay mate, thank you very much for your time. Chris
Brendolino there from Newway. Yes, Ozzie Osborne and Black Sabbath
were in Philadelphia and Michelle. You want to add to
the live aid conversation. No, I think so.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
I mean I was very very young when this happened,
so for me it's not even a memory.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Jamie, Well, it wasn't.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Although I am a bargain So I do love like Sabath.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, well everyone loves Black, so if everyone loves Ozzy Osbourne. Right,
let's see what you've got in rural news there with me?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Where is that sting gone? Here?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It is here the country's rural news with cub Cadet,
New Zealand's leading right on Lawnlower brand. Visit steel Ford
dot co dot nz for your local stargist.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
And this weekend the regional finals for the FMG Young
Farmer of the Year continue, with Arangi having its turn
at putting some of the region's top young agricultural talent
to the test to earn a spot at the grand
final in in Vericago.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
In July.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
The event is taking place tomorrow at the Ashburn and
Amp Showgrounds, where competitors will embark on a series of
tough challenges and finishing on a buzzer quiz. One competitor
hoping to make it two wins in a row is
Gareth Mcerrika from Pleasant Point and he's hoping to obviously
snatch victory for a second time. And that's your rural news.
What's happening in sport, Jamie?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
What I know, Michelle. Let's find out what a good
throw that was.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sport with AFCO visit them online at FCO dot co
dot Nz.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I got rid of the twelve thirty news bulletin because
it bored me, so I've gone back to the midday
sports check from our sports team in Auckland and look
at it. Nottingham Forest must be peeved off with New
Zealand and the All Whites because Chris Wood will miss
Nottingham Forest's FA Cup football quarter final away to Brighton
on Sunday due to the injury he sustained or suffered
(28:27):
in the All Blacks Oceania World Cup qualifying win over
New Caledonia in Wellington. They ended up winning quite comfortably
without him, and I'm just wondering whether he made the
right decision to come back. You've got to admire him.
But gee, Nottingham Forest, who are going pretty good in
the EPL. You would think they would have a good
chance away to Brighton, not that I know that much
(28:47):
about football. Bright And support her here right he And
this is a good story because this blokes a champion.
A chance for former Black Cap Neil Wagner to close
the latest chapter on his cricketing career in Ferry fairy
tale fashion. The sixty four Tests seam is confirmed. Northern
District's final round Plunket Shield match, starting tomorrow against Otago
(29:09):
in Dunedin, will be his last domestic match in New Zealand.
ND have a seven point lead in the competition. Wagner
has never won the four day title and his made
in first class match on these shores was the exact
same fixture more than sixteen years ago, when, of course
he turned out for Otago. He is a lionheart. Good
(29:29):
luck Neil Wagner, you deserve your retirement. Up next we
talk wool with Rachel Sharer. What a great name for
a Wall correspondent. Let's continue the sharing and wall theme
(29:54):
today on the country. General manager of walland director of
a bidder is a Rachel Sharer from PGG Rights and Rachel. Unfortunately,
I don't want to shoot the messenger, but we're seeing
a bit of a correction in the strong wall market.
Not good at all, but the world is such an
uncertain place.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
At the moment.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
That's absolutely correct. The market is continuing, I would say,
to drift more towards the buyer's market for most types lands,
although and the poorer colored fleeces are the most affected.
But look, there is some key demand areas still some
of the adult wall is remaining in demand, particularly that
of a good color that's with low VM, that wall
(30:35):
that's been really well prepared, that's still in demand, albeit
it probably unlimited volumes at the moment. But yes, we
are starting to see the impact of seasonal conditions on
wall quality, which is impacting on price as well. As
you've mentioned, some of this uncertainty that's out in the
world at the moment is really I think starting to
play into the hands of exporters meeting some of that
(30:57):
resistance from the major market.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, well, as we get through the sharing season, the
color deterior rates that's just nature them. Vegetable matter half
on and increases as you get through the season as well.
But hand on heart, Rachel, is it worth preparing your
wall or should you just chuck it straight from the
board into the press?
Speaker 10 (31:16):
Oh? Never, chuck it straight from the orden that well.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I used to when I was sharing.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Yeah, Well, good preparation is key at the moment, and
that's where we're starting to see some of the better
prices coming through.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
The exports.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Is saying it's really evident when will has been prepared. Well,
it's still starting to see some decent prices there, so
it is worth it. But I think that at this
stage is we're navigating these market fluctuations, we're navigating these
uncertainties and global trade, it's really key to have a
pretty strategic selling mechanisms, whether that's you know, putting part
(31:53):
of the clip into a forward contract, putting some of
them on the spot market, whatever it might be. Having
those discuss to determine which way is best at the
moment to sell, because nothing is guaranteed at the moment,
that's for sure. On the global scale, of.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Course, we've got the New Zealand shares and Tikawadi. We've
got the South Island Field Days, coul we I see
PGG rights and one best site overall. Stephen Geron will
be pleased about that.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
He's absolutely delighted as we are as the whole team.
And I was out there yesterday.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
What a great day.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
It was great Canterbury Day, not like the mud from
a couple of years ago. And yeah, we're really proud
as PGG Rights and having the best site, and I
think it was a well deserved one. We've actually got
our Wooll Integrity Easter decorations out there. Those are the
Easter decorations made from traceable New Zealand frost spread wall
that's been grown here and then handmade by our Fred
(32:44):
fair Trade partners in Nepal and those Easter decorations are
flying out as well. But yeah, really awesome to see
the field days and better for Cannabary Day.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yep, not too late to get out there today and
have a look at the best site at the Field Days.
Rache'll share a GM of WOL for PGG Rights. Thanks
for your time on.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
The country, Thanks the chance to talk. We know.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I really liked Hall and Oates in the eighties Michelle
doesn't even know what I'm talking about. They were at
Live Aid as well at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia. Barry
Soapers wrapping the country. We were trying to get someone
at Kerwee today for day three. We hear it's a
good day there. Unfortunately our contact that Toyota didn't come through.
(33:39):
I'm sure they're selling plenty of those high lux hybrid uts.
And just before we go to Barry's Soaper, this is
by the way Hall and Oats and out of touch Barry.
This is a good segue and lead into tamotha Paul.
But I just want to get this message out from
Farmstrong before I forget about it. Talking about Canterbury. Farmstrong's
(33:59):
shall out as tonight's Harvesting Health Wellbeing Tools for Rural
Life event happening in North Canterbury. There's a top lineup
of well being experts, including local legends from the Crusaders.
A wonder if Big Stewlo's going. They'll be sharing tips
about how to look after mind and body so you
can perform at your best on farm. It's all good
(34:21):
practical stuff. Kicks off at six and it's three, so
get along to that. It is in North Canterbury. Tonight,
Barry Soper out of touch describes Tamotha Paul. What has
she been smoking?
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, you'd have to think she was
on something.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Wouldn't you.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
It's incredible. Really, abolish the police. What do you have? Anarchy?
And she seems to feel that people are intimidated by
seeing cops wandering around on the beat. Well, they must
be an absolute majority of minority and have something to hide.
I just can't believe that this woman that we pay
(35:05):
the best part of two hundred k a year four
comes out with statements like that. Not only that, Jamie,
you remember she said essentially that people, most of the
people in prison, the people that are there because they
have some mental capacity, and in fact, you're there for
(35:25):
stealing a life of bread to feed the family, rather
than what is reality, that they're there because they're violent
and they're yeah, Perry, and then she tried to say
that someone was in there for stealing something worth twelve dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
She's a nut job. There's too many of them, right, Hey,
just getting this is totally off the script. And I
don't even know if you've caught up with the story
because I wasn't expecting to chat to you today, Barry.
It's a bonus getting you on. Did you pick up
that story that zedb ran this morning about this research
is wanting a way to remove infirm prime and this
(36:00):
comes off the back of Biden obviously, But they studied
for prime ministers Michael, Joseph Savage, Norman Kirk, there was
the other one, Joseph Wort. Yeah, all infirmed due to illness.
And then they talked about your old mate, Sir Robert.
It was the heavy drinking that got in.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Well, indeed it was. And there are so many stories
about Rob Muldern that I won't bore you with here,
but I'm sure I have done in the past. Jamie. Yeah,
he was in the end not capable essentially of running
the country and I think that showed when he hung
on klang on to power after David Longley won the
(36:41):
Treasury benches and refused to give it up until he
is virtually forced out. But I've seen examples of Muldourn
being totally incapable of being in the position of Prime minister.
But that's not to say that other prime ministers not
in terms of drink, but that been really woeful as well,
(37:02):
and their ability to handle that particular job. So he's
not on his own. I could tell many stories about
many prime ministers.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, okay, I've got like ten seconds left. Are you
going to write a book?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I'm in the process of doing that joke.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
You know where all the skeletons are buried. I look
forward to that. See you later, Baz cheers, Jo there
we go.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
That would be a good book. Barry sober.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
When he does finish that one, that's us done and dusted.
We'll after I enjoy the play tonight, I'll enjoy the
Highlanders Go the Lands.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Catch you back on Monday.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, catch all the latest from the land. It's the
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