May 15, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Todd McClay, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Chris Russell, Jeremy Rookes, and Chris Brandolino.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Not the lads.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We're gonna lose our master night watch the darlyal.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I love want to talk too much? From the radio.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Pubs, The Rolls.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Penny Snash, Gooday, New Zealand, and welcome to the Country.
My name's Jamie mckaye. The coffin in the background comes
from our Agriculture and Trade Minister, Todd McLay, who's taking
time out of a very busy schedule all around the world,
is in Korea at the moment about the jump on
a plane, I think to Shanghai. He's been there for
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an Apex Trade Minister's meeting and he's been talking about
the cp T t TTPPPPP as well. I can never
get that one right, Todd McLay. I'll tell you what's
on the show shortly, but I know you've got to
catch a plane, so tell me what's been happening in Korea.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Jamie, Hey, thanks for having me on. Well, the Apex
trademan this is meeting is on a career. The other
hosts or here, And although the conversation sort of good
around the table, it's an opportunity to meet with different
delegations and talk directly about New Zealand's interests. I've had
a lot of meetings Indonesia where we're just trying to
make sure we keep getting a dairy in there, and
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Vietnam and Stylind and stuff like that. But probably the
most important meeting I had was of the United States
Trade Representative ambassador degree and my equivalent in the US,
my equivalent, but a much bigger country.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
So have you cut us a trade deal? Have you
got a reduction on Trumpy's tariffs? Have you got us
down to nothing from our current ten percent?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
No, not at all. Look, it was a really constructive meeting.
We get on quite well. I knew him years ago
when I was trading ut the last time he was
the deputy USDR. It's my second conversation and first one
in person. It's fair to say that they are not
focused on New Zealand. I made the case that I
think that the ten percent tariff they put on everything
is prohibitive. It's harmful, it's not good for the trading relationship.
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It's going to put up costs on US consumers, but
they are quite focused on others where they have big
trade deficits, and they are negotiating with them furiously. And
so look, just made the case I take away from
for what he said that they value the relationship with
New Zealand. They don't see it's the problem. In fact,
they see us as the good guys. But the new floor,
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the bottom teriff right for anybody at the moment, is
ten percent. And I said, well, I guess we're no
worse off, but we want to be better off because
we are good friends. And so he's inviting me up
to Washington later in near to come and sit down
when they're bannedwidth fixers. But you know, when they're through
some of these big, hard, chunky negotiations with the countries
that have you know, huge trade surpluses against.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Them, well we're kind of collateral damage on this and
Trump's trade tariff war. Look, APEC, there's no dismissing this
or talking it down. It's a huge deal. APEX twenty
one economies receive over seventy five percent of New Zealand
exports of our total exports, and represent nearly sixty percent
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of global GDP huge trading.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Block exactly it is.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
It is now we have trade agreements with pretty much
all the countries. There are different types of the US
and Agreement, the ARTP Agreement, the CPTPP, so we have
a number of arrangements with them. The importance for New
Zealand to be at these events so is to sit
at the table. So you know, yesterday in my intervention
which is more about world trade, and you know the Doublego,
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you're sitting there where you've got China and the US,
Australia and Mexico and New Zealand. And I'm making the
case that says, look, the Double Goo is a good
institution that serves New Zealand, but we now know to
fix it and change, don't reckon. And by the way,
as we're talking about all these things, how about the
most harmful effect that we know on world trade, which
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is agricultural subsidies in the US and in the European
Union and all over the place. How about we deal
with that finally, so there is a level playing field.
And these guys don't want to hear, but it's important.
In the New Zealand's they're banging the drama continuing to
on behalf of our farmers because no one else will.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Before you got to Korea, you were in the UK.
You spent time meeting with UK Trade Secretary Jonathan Reddold
Reynolds in London. That was the first in person with
him as well, and no doubt the in zed UK
FTA was up for discussion. That's going well.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
For us, Yeah, it is going really well.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I've actually this is my one two three fourth meeting
with them.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Actually, someone gave me some bad info. The heads will
roll now.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
What it was is the first and person in person
meeting of the Joint Commission to implement the FDA. But
I guess the point of that is, you know, the
UK is quite like mine. That we did meet and
talk about. The FDA's working well. Our meat exports, particularly lamb,
are up in that market. We're seeing a lot of
extra sales in there, which is pleasing. Tell you what
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I also did though, I want to meet their Agriculture
minister who's he's from a labor government. I suppose he's
feeling but in Battle then I had a dinner with
the National Farmers' Union there president and vice presidents and
the Welsh president and then on the final day, went
out to visit a farm. I want to see what
they're doing. And I tell you what, by golly do
they have an unbelievably complex system over there that just
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hits out their farmers and costs the money. It was crazy.
Here's one of the things they were doing, you know,
run by a diversity. A man said, See those three
fields over there. He said, I received one hundred thousand
pounds a year to plant different types of grass seed
that birds like out there. Nothing's do with production, and
it's just madness their system. And I tell you what,
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They're going to have to reform it because I reckon
it will fail. I back our farmers, who I said
to them. You know, if I said to some farmers
I want you to plant bird seed, to laugh me
out of office. They want to make choices for themselves
and what they're doing we backed them to be world
be thinking.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Well, Todd, you obviously haven't heard the greens alternate budget
while you're away. They want us to plant bird seed
and fields as well.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
That's the reason I will never, in my entire life
vote for the Greens tecually, one of a number of reasons.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, ye're fair enough, they're getting nuttier by the day.
Look the UK, it's tough over there for farmers. Our
guy farmer, Tom Martin tells us all about it. This
proposed inheritance Texas. If farming wasn't tough enough there.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Yeah, And I jokingly made the case of a few
of them I should come on down to New Zealand.
There's no inheritance tax and we just want to back
farmers to do well well. They're very, very interested in
when I said to their ministers I was meeting the
mass then a few the equildn't you know of federated
farmers in New Zealand. They're but worried for me if
I just find them really reasonable people and they want
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to do best for farmers and they've got to advocate
for them, and they have a different view than their
government at the moment. And they were a bit surprised
just how engaged we are health and I meet with
the farming representatives in New Zealand and how we try
and find solutions together. But you know, you have farmers
in the UK that want to produce more and they're
not allowed to and there's just so many rules. I mean,
I ran through how we're getting rid of you know,
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rule up to rule in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And you know they.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Jokingly said, you want to come on down here and
help us sort of run things. So you know, we
shouldn't take for granted the access we had to each
other in New Zealand. We should keep working on that.
But fundamentally I left them with a very very clear
message we should cooperate together on many things, and particularly innovation,
because I said to them, your challenge in the UK
is not New Zealand farmers selling lamb here. It's actually
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that much of the world. But like our greens in
New Zealand want to close farming down and get rid
of it, and we've all got to stand up against
that because the way of life's important. Farmers care about
the land, and actually UK farmers and New Zealand farmers
have more common then. Actually it sounds like sometimes we
might fight a bit over land access.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Okay, Todd, Safe travels home. I know you're going home
via Shanghai. Is that just a drop off or you're
doing business in Shanghai as well?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
No straight through two hours on the ground and home
Saturday morning. A lot to do, a budget next week
and I've got a bit to talk about in the
budget and agriculture Jamie. We might get on the show
later in the week.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
It's really about resilient communities and moving support around to
make sure that we support farmers on the ground and
make sure that they mental health can be as strong
as possible.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Good on you, safe travels home. You've certainly in those airpoints.
Todd maclay there, Minister of Agriculture and Trade. It is
caught up past twelve. You're with the country brought to
you by Brent. Then I wear Michell's gone. Not that
I need it at this very moment in time, but
it is. We had to wear pink. I haven't actually
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got any pink in my wardrobe. One of the kids
had an old pink rugby Jersey. I tried that on.
Was unflattering, to say the least, so I ditched that.
I had to turn up their team player and I
had a pink scarf. I don't know where it's gone.
I've lost that as well, But apparently it's you've got
to wear pink today because it's stand up to bullying day,
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workplace bullying. I wonder what's happened to Lasher's anyhow. Up
next Emma Paul and Tim Danjen Today's brother and Sister
Farmer panel. Two of the sharpest young minds in agriculture.
But can they agree on methane and Paris? We'll ask
them next. And a surprise career move I think anyhow
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for Tim Dunen. That's up next on the Country. Also
on the show Chris Russell, Australian correspondent, Jeremy Rook's Lifestyle
Hobby Farming correspondent and Chris Brandolino from newa Young Farmer
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of the Year Grand Final FMG Farmer of the Year
Grand Final coming up in inmber Cargo in early July.
One man who will be there will be this man,
Tim dangein twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the Year
and Tim, you're a West Auckland beef farmer, but not
for much longer. You love the Grand Final that much.
You're moving down to Southland to milk cows so you
can be closer to the event. This is a bit drastic,
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isn't it.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
You got Jamie that in the weather mate.
Speaker 10 (10:24):
A couple of the reasons that we're making them move,
but no, just an exciting opportunity that has come up
for my wife and I and you were looking forward
to getting down and getting back to Milton Farming Gummies
Bosh and working for Simon and Jeanine Hopcroft who are
employers of me ten years ago now, so yet back
to the old stomping ground and really excited mate.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
And Simon Hopcroft was the two thousand and four Young
Farmer of the Air. Now is this because you're looking
jealously at your younger sister Emma, who was the Young
Farmer of the Year in twenty twenty three and thinking
she's making a lot more money than me dairy farming.
So I'm going to try an equaler a sibling rivalry here, Tom, No.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up
Dehma and Chris.
Speaker 10 (11:05):
But yeah, like, certainly from an opportunity point of view,
that the financial aspects of it are appealing, there's no
doubt about that. But we've also been at the home
Farm for ten years now and yeah, I'm really proud
of the progress that we've made here and the projects
that we've completed, and now it's just a chance for
us to go off and do something a little bit
different for a while, with certainly the intention is to
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end up back at home here, so we're really excited
about it, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Emma Paul knee dangein twenty twenty three Young Farmer of
the Year. Are you going to miss Tim?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Oh dearly, Jamie. He's not going to be just up
the road for me anymore or two hours to Auckland,
isn't it. But yeah, I'll be seeing him first opportunity
down at the Grand Final myself, so I don't have
to wait too long, do I?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
No, you don't. Do you think that there is a
bit of sibling jealousy there you're coining at you and Chris,
your husband, are coining it as dairy farmers, and even
though beef's good costs a lot to you know, replace
beef animals, I don't know. I don't think they're making
as much as you rich dairy farmers, are they, Emma.
That'll get a bite.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
They don't know about that, Jamie in certainly not coining it.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
We're spending money pretty fast at the moment, so it's
just one of those things. Tim's definitely we've been interested
in what we've been doing, but yeah, he's got his
own skill set and he's pretty good dairy farmer himself,
so he doesn't need to look too much at what
we're doing, and I'm sure he'll make his own goal
of it.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
All work and no play makes Emma Paul a dull
former Young Farmer of the Year, But your life's anything
but dull, Emma, because you've been supercar racing in Talpo
with New Holland.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Yeah, that's another great thing that came out of winning
the contest was really a partnership with New Holland there
and the opportunity to be their brand ambassador. So the
supercars are a few weeks ago, but I've been a
bit pety on your show over the last month, sorry, Jamie,
so we'n't had a chance to catch up about it.
But yeah, we got to get down there with New
Holland and see another great community project that they're helping
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to fund and they sponsor the Red Bull Ample. I
can't say I was a huge supercar fan before I
went and saw what was going on, but that was
amazing to see and it was just such a great
community event. There was thousands of people who had showed
up in Talpo and a great thing for you know,
Talpo tourism and the money at board into New Zealand
because it's usually on the Australian circuits, so they only
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have that one race in New Zealand a year, so
pretty cool thing for New Holland.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
To support there.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
And you'll also be supporting New Holland no doubt at
field Days, where apart from being a brand ambassador, I
think you're also going to be a judge for the
Innovation Awards and the old days we used to call
it the Inventions.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Yeah, it's pretty lucky to be part of that team, Jamie,
and it's been an exciting process and really neat to
see how many ford thinking people there are out there
in our industry trying to think of solutions every single day.
It's easy enough when you're on your own farm, head down,
battling away to think that no one's coming up with
solutions to the problems that I've been overwhelmed with the
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entrants this year and I can't wait to see them
show on the actual field days and get to showcase
to the public what they've been inventing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
We talked about the Young Farmer Grand Final coming up
and in Theicargol this is news to me. I thought
it was like a Final exam. You did everything on
the day or the three days, but there is an
internal assessment part of this, Tim Danjin, and that is
the technical projects. They have been given those now, I
mean that's a month and a half out.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
Yeah, you're right, Jamie. There is an exam on the
technical day at Grand Final as well. But obviously, in
our pursuit to find the best farmer in New Zealand
under the age of thirty one, we have to test
a wide range of skills and a lot of that
stuff is often hard to test in the short time
frame that the Grand finalists are there.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
So they get given an innovation.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Project now, which is worth about fifteen percent of the
overall marks. And the idea of this project is a
really sort of screw into some pretty nitty gritty detail
around how sound they are financially, what their business accoms like,
and really test their innovation as well. So, yeah, the
contestants we're looking at that now stretching their heads. I'm
sure it's pretty tricky finding the balance between coming up
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with something new and coming up with something that's feasible.
So it's a really neat part of the contest that
often doesn't get a lot of airtime, but is quite
critical in finding that top young farmer.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
All right, let's just finish, because you two are amongst
the brightest and best in young farmers in this country.
I got two questions for the pair of you. I'll
go back to you, Emma, measuring methane in Paris. We're
measuring methane correctly? And should we be staying in Paris.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Oh, you've been hot on this topic this week, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I would stick with what Jethyane said this week and
totally agree with her that we should stay in the
Paris Accord. And I'm pretty big on following through on
things that you start, So whether you agree with it
or not, we've started this now, so it'd be good
to follow through with some of the things.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
That we have promised. But in saying that, Jamie, we can't.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Lose sight of food production, and that is actually part
of the Paris Accorders. Do have to be able to
maintain food production and amongst reducing greenhouse scarce emissions. So
that is just the most important thing that we should
be doing in the world right now. There's people out
there without food every day, so we definitely don't want
to be dialing back on something.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Are we're measuring methane correctly? Just quickly?
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Who knows, Jamie that's here?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well you should, are you one of our brightest young minds.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Tell me it's sort of neither here nor there, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
It doesn't matter how you measure it if people want
it reduced, and that's what our customers are asking for.
Shouldn't we be making some attempt to do something? And
I don't think we should be extreme and reduce kettle
numbers and reduce food output. But I don't think there's
any harm in spending a little bit of money in
R and D and you know, putting something away.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
For a rainy day so that we can reduce methane
if we have to.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Okay, a quick final comment from you, Tim, because you
raised this issue.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
Yeah, sure, answer is yes, I think we should get out.
It's just a matter of timing, and I think now
it's too early. Are we measuring it correctly?
Speaker 8 (16:58):
I think no?
Speaker 10 (16:59):
And my real problem with it all, Jamie, is that
we signed up to a floored agreement from the start,
so we've sort of put ourselves in this position unfortunately,
so it's worth speaking up about. But I think the
timing isn't quite there to be pulling out of it
just yet.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
So brother and sister disagreeing on this one.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
It's not uncommon, but a sibling rhyme.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
All right, Emma, Paul will see you at field das Tim,
I won't see you at field days because you're making
your way down to the riviera of the South Riveton
to go dairy farming. Good luck in your new.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Venture, beautiful tuesd Jamie.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Yeah, o god, why.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Do they do this?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Sorry, that's just to me having a weak bitch technical
problem of mind making. I don't want to hear about
z M. This is the country on z B. It's pink. Hello, Michelle,
good morning, Good afternoon, pink. Stand up to bullying day.
You're too nice to workplace. Bully can't even have a
fight with you, and when it was good for the
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odd scrap she could fire up.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Yeah, I've lost my fear onness over the years. I
used to be a bit more feral.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
When I was coming youw Belcluther Bogue and yeah anyhow,
so yeah, we all had to wear pink today. Stand
up to bullying, serious subject, shouldn't do it. Glenn, love
your work. Glenn's texted in and said, can't wait to
hear which climate denying boomer you get on today? And
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it was interesting that Emma and Tim and they're not boomers.
There are barely thirty years of age.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
Are younger than me.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I think both of them, well, quite a few people
are now Michelle, you're getting a bit longer in the tooth.
But those like they're young people, very smart young people,
and they had a different they disagreed on Paris and
methane measurement. Very interesting. Indeed, now Field Days, we were
talking to Emma about Field Days. She'll be there representing
New Holland, I think as a brand ambassador and also
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a judge in the innovation section. They're good. She'll do
a wonderful job there. I want to join Emmir at
Field Days. What you need to do is text us
on five double O nine and you need to text
the word. Don't use the word win, just text Field Days.
Spell it correctly, I F I E L D A
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Y S. I'm spelling it out for you, your name
and where you're listening from, and we'll give you the
chance to win that double pass to Field Days. Mystery
Creek June eleven to fourteen. Up next on the Country,
it's our Rossie correspondent Chris Russell. A zempic interesting and
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also track the sales in Australia. They're slumping. Why I
hope that doesn't happen here ahead of Field Days. He's
up next before the end of their Jeremy Rooks and
Chris Brandolino. He's our Rossie correspondent Chris Russell based out
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of Sydney. Chris, Let's go to Tasmania where there has
been new life for the Tasmanian poppy growing industry due
to these new weight loss drugs such as a zempak.
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, you know, this is epic is a remarkable drug
really and it came from a bloody lizard in America
they discovered called the Gilly monster lizard that spound that
it's got suppressants for appetite which lasts for a week
rather than lasting for a few hours which our natural
ones do. But there are a lot of other side
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drugs which are actually also used in that. And whereas
our whole poppy industry in Tasmania was revolving really around
the supply of painkillers and opioid type drugs, and remember
they used to even count the poppies in the field
at one stage. Now they've found that they've got a
demand for some of the weight loss drug ingredients to
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come from these as well, and there's a worldwide shortage
of them these drugs, of course, so it's quite almost
impossible to get hold of them. And they're now saying
that Extractors Bio Science, which is the company that now
owns all those growing areas down in Tasmania, is hoping
for extra nine thousand hectares, so they got down to
three thousand hectares only being required for the various drugs
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that they use as painkillers, where they're going to grow
on extra nine thousand hectares to be able to supply
this shortage for the drug ozempic highly sought after. So
that's a whole new lease of life. And it's been
used for all sorts of things from diabetes and it's
also been found to reduce information in hearts and therefore
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reduced heart attacks. It's become one of the four Pillar
treatments for kidney disease. It's quite an extraordinary drug with
almost no side effects that anyone's discovered other than if
you're taking it for weight loss. Apparently, if you go
off it and you haven't got yourself a good eating habits, Jamie,
you put it all back on again pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah. Hey, Field Days are coming up middle of June
here in New Zealand. It's the biggest agricultural gathering I
think in the Southern Hemisphere, or at least that's what
we're claiming. Anyhow, Now about field days, the real barometer
here is tractor sales in Australia. Tractor sales have crashed
as farmers, especially in the drought regions, prefer to feed
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their animals rather than upgrade the tractor.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yes, well, you know, and this is the thing that's
quite surprising the dealerships who had stocked up on tractors
thinking that they would be more of a demand. But
these falls have continued right through April, and with fewer
than eight hundred tractors sold right across Australia in the
thirty day period of April. So that's down thirteen percent
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month on month on the month before, and nine percent
down on April last year. Now, you know, while we
had Easter and all that sort of thing in there. Nonetheless,
they're quite surprised that we're not seeing any growth in
tractors because up in the North, you know, they've had
good rain there are expecting to grow another fantastic winter
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crop year, which is not something they normally expect. But
in the South it's quite the opposite. They're quite pessimistic
about their crop prospects down in South Australia and West Australia,
and so this is causing quite a lot of trauma
I think for our tractor dealers all around Australia.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Jamie, you've got three more years of elbow and a
labor government not necessarily in fact, they're not farmer friendly.
Let's be honest about it. What are the changes to
that the treasure has made that could affect the sale
of family farms.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, and I think this is going to be a
big issue. Jim Charmers, the Treasurer has been getting a
lot of heat over this from the farmers. But they're
proposing to bring in an unrealized capital agains tax on
superannuation funds that are over three million dollars. Well, a
lot of family farms are put into superannuation funds for
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tax reasons and they've passed on to the next generation,
and in that way you're able to maintain that family ownership.
But of course a lot of those farms are worth
a lot more than three million dollars, and they're now
talking about charging a fifteen percent tax on the extra value,
even if you haven't sold anything and haven't realized the money.
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So somewhere you've got to drag up fifteen percent of
a couple three five million dollars and pay it to
the government without actually having anything to sell. And that
could cause farmers to start thinking about selling their farms
when they get to retire an age, rather than leaving
them in the super far and living off some of
the proceeds from them and letting the family carry that on.
Now that's a big loss. Of course. It does depend,
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of course on the Greens supporting that in the new
Senate when it opens. The Greens have been much depleted
in the House of Reps, but there's still power in
the Senate, so there's a lot of push to sort
of say, Jim Charmers, you need to think about it.
We've had people like Jerry Harvey from Harvey Norman saying
that it's the worst decision, the most stupidity of the highest.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Order, he called it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Elder Statesman Paul Keating, former Prime Minister, has said that
they had to increase that threshold to five minute as
a minimum, but not a good tax. So he's getting
a lot of criticism. But they're desperate for money, Jamie.
Speaker 11 (25:21):
That's the problem.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
An unrealized capital gains taxes straight from the playbook of
our Green's as well. Chris Russell, Australian correspondent. Thanks for
your time. We'll catch you again next week. Come rain, hail,
snow or shine or an ossie rugby team winning Super Rugby.
Heaven help us see you later. No worries, Thank you, Chris.
It is twenty three from one talking about rugby the
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Lincoln College Rugby Football Club reunion. And this is for
people like me who went to Lincoln College as it
was known pre nineteen sixty one it was Canterbury Agricultural College.
Post nineteen eighty nine it was Lincoln University. But the
real blokes went there in the intervening years nineteen sixty
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one to nineteen eighty nine. So what's happening is registrations
close at stumps today, Okay, So what's happening next Thursday?
The twenty second, casual drinks at High School Old Boys
Rugby Club and formal gathering on Friday the twenty third dinner,
the formal dinner and speeches at the Hornby Club. And
on Saturday the twenty fourth, next weekend lunch and of
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course rugby supporting the rugby club at Lincoln University. Google
LCRFC reunion. That's Lincoln College Rugby Football Club Reunion and
register registrations close close of play today. Up next Michelle
with a great event that's happening in the South Otago
town of Lawrence in Rural News.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
No matter what she says.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Now you're.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
It is nineteen away from one. You're with the Country,
brought to you by Brandt Michelle and with rural news
interesting sports news for you as well. Now, just as
a prelude, is that the right word to what Michelle's
going to talk about. Lawrence in South Otago was famous
for the discovery of gold and Gabriel Scully in eighteen
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sixty one. The population of Lawrence swelled to over eleven
thousand people, and Dunedin as a result, was New Zealand's
pre eminent colonial city before being eclipsed by the Jaffers
in Auckland. The beautiful thing about Lawrence is Trump would say, Michelle,
it's a great town. It's a beautiful town. It's still
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got many of those Victorian and Edwardian buildings and facades.
They're still standing. It's a beautiful town. It didn't get
torn down, torn down in the sixties and fifties, sixties
and seventies and replaced with concrete jungles. And you're going
there tomorrow and here's why.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
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for your local stockist.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
That's right.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
I'm heading down there tomorrow and I hope to see
some familiar faces that I know from the farming areas
around South. But this weekend, twenty two farmily farming families
will be awarded in celebrating generations on the land. The
Century Farm Awards are held every year in May and
the small historic gold mining town of Lawrence and take
place in order to celebrate and honor family farms that
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have been owned and worked on for one hundred years
or more. It's in its twentieth year now and the
awards are now claim of six hundred families from around
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I think your family we got recognized or awarded in
twenty eleven. Our farm went into our family farmer ownership
in nineteen ten.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Yeah, I'm very excited about going down to this so
it should be fantastic. Even looking forward to meeting everybody.
And thank you to Roger for putting me up down
there at Bellamy.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Say sure gotton God on your Roger, and thank you
for filling in for me. Life's kind of got on
the road for me recently, so I can't make it
and I've only got three words for you or is
it four?
Speaker 9 (29:07):
I'm worried about what these are going to be. Remember
I'm wearing a pink shirt. I'm wearing a pink shirt.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Don't cock it up. Okay, it's a big chance, Michelle,
make a name for yourself. Knock the ball out of
the park. There's Michelle with oh yeah, she's pointing towards
who's our field. Day's double pass oneer?
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Okay. A double pass winner from yesterday is Rosemary Brandon,
who was listening from Oatry Honger. So well done, Rosemary,
enjoy that double pass. Make sure you go.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Visit us in the pavilion, Indeed.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
Sport with AFCO.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Visit them online at a FCO, dot co dot NZ.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I love watching golf. Momentum from a maiden PGA Tour
victory has propelled Ryan Fox into a share of fourth
after the first round of this year's second men's major,
The Auckland Golf has three shots off the lead. After
carting a four under pass sixty seven at the PGA
Championship at Quayle Hollow. Gee Rory had a bit of
a shocker and Forbes MEGA has just issued its annual
(30:01):
estimate of how much cash is landing in the wallets
of the world's highest paid sportspeople. He's forty years of
age now, but Cristiano Ronaldo has topped the list for
the third consecutive year and for the fifth time in
his career, with a haul of around four hundred and
sixty eight million dollars. Golden State Warriors basketballer Steph Curry,
who's injured at the moment, has dunked second, netting two
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hundred and sixty six million. Good money if you can
get it up next. Jeremy Rocks. We tease the fact
that this man was going to be on the show tomorrow,
and first up, I have to apologize for calling him
a pest. Some people call him a pest, but he's
not really. He's always informative and entertaining on this show
(30:48):
our resident lifestyle slash hobby farmer, Jeremy Rocks, former carbon farmer.
How many more ways can I insult you, Jeremy.
Speaker 11 (30:56):
Well, people off ease dude, but I can't repeat that.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
No, no, Well, I mean to be fair. We do
love each other and I do enjoy your input because
you're a bit like Jane Smith, and I know you're
a big fan of Jane Smith. No one ever dies
wondering what you're thinking. Now. This is live radio, my friends,
so please be careful before you're tee off today.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Well, well, there's not a lot of tea off about really,
but there have been a couple of things in the
last week that have just absolutely fascinated me, like the
temerity of Insured Farming and Groundswelders to survey all the
people that use their website about what they think about
getting out of Paris and the methane and stuff. And
then obviously the people affected are the farmers and they
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have voiced their opinion through through that survey, but they're
how dare the people that are being affected voice their opinion.
They've been round housed by you know, Grant mc national,
the National.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Party, everyone else going how dear these people there, they're
Luod eyes and it's like, no, these are these are
the people on the ground that know what's going on.
And you've only got to look at the decrease in
all the stock units for a start, they're disappearing at
a million miles now, and so how earth can we
even justify being in the Powis Agreement when our clearly
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methane emissions are dropping anyway, just by.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
The lack of stock. It's just no.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, Biattrician, I know you didn't hear it. But the
Dungeons brother and sister, both very bright young people, former
Young Farmers of the Year. Emma had a differing opinion
to Tim. Emma says we've got to stay in the
Powis Accord and she wasn't sure about methane measurement. Tim
was pretty definitive on both of them. He said, we
need to get out of Paris. Not yet, it's too early.
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And he said the measuring system for methane is flawed,
and I would tend to agree with Tim on this one,
but I.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
Mean, you know the thing i'd ever say, it's the
it's the people above the producers that make all these
decisions that apparently are in our best interest. But everything
about this climate change not since it's a straw man argument.
I mean, renewables don't work, they break down, the wind
doesn't blow, you know, solar doesn't work on cloudy days,
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and then when it does generate powers too much for
the good to handle. We've got this sort of the
evil of ruminants where they are natural. You know, a
ruminants animal is a natural biosystem of you like, that's
evolved over millions of years, and so why would you
try and muck around with an animal's natural biology. I mean,
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it's just crazy. In the Paris Accord itself says you
cannot affect food production. So I mean there's a natural
out there anyway. We just don't need to do anything stupid.
We just box on, or we get it and get
out of it, or just ignore it. Basically, it's probab
of the easiest way, if that makes sense, because you
know clearly the government's well aligned to this Powis accord
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and all the stuff. But I just think it's ridiculous personally.
I just can't see how how how they can even
anything because they can't. They've never got anything, any facts.
They just go to market demands. It will show us
the evidence. Please show us the evidence.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Let's get a final comment from you on the carbon farming.
And I give you a bit of stick about being
a carbon farmer, but the factor is you did save
your Central Hawks Bay farm. It went to forestry slash
carbon farming. I know new rules or new legislation is
coming into place later this year, but it's not stopping
what I would describe almost as a rampant in some
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cases blanket planting of good pastoral and even worse arable land.
It's a crime.
Speaker 11 (34:38):
Yeah, well it has going full bore at the moment,
like half a Hawks Bay has gone and the forestry
between sort of one steed out to a markery in
Central Hawk's Bay. There is a road there now that's
got two farms left on it. When we left three
years ago there was about seven or eight. Yeah, it's
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it's going full board until the rules change in October.
I think it is, which is a real shame.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah, they need to change. I don't know. I mean
they're fast forwarding the pay equity in the House. You'd
think they could do the same thing with the carbon farming.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
No, I don't know. I mean, don't talk about the
House of Parliament. I mean, as Winston Peters said, I
just can't get my head around what's going on in there.
It's a circus. It's like it's like mufty day at
school when you look at the greens and Tapadi marywalk
in there and then it is like school because Jerry Brownley,
the ex woodwork teacher, couldn't run a bath by the
look of him, you know, as speaker, he's just letting
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them get away with murder. It's I don't know, it's
quite unbelievable what's going on in this country at the moment.
It's insanity rules.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I blame Trevor Mallard and that's my final shot. I
blame him for a lot of things. Actually, Jeremy Rock's
well done. Always enjoy your opinion and time here on
the country. Sorry for calling you a pest. That's all right, thanks, Jess.
And I know you don't want me to mention this,
but Happy Birthday. Bryce Mackenzie tells that Lawrence is in
West Otago, not South Otago. I'm duly corrected, and before
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you and lock it and Eddie Chris Brandoleno to wrap
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the country. Wrapping the country with Chris Brandolino from newa Wee.
Bit early for his winter forecast, but a bit of
a cold change coming at Chris.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
So after the weekend, Jamie, there will be a warm
kind of wet field to the weekend. That'll start for
the South Island, so west of the South Island tomorrow
on Saturday, Fjordland, even interior Otago gets a good drop
of rank, certainly west coast of the South Island from
Tasman right the way through to Fjordland. That'll be Saturday
and Saturday and that front moves north and that'll bring
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rain to the North Island. But not until late on Sunday,
so places like Tedanaki with the soils are still dry
and why cook out. You'll get some much needed rainfall
and that'll move north and should exit the country by
Monday morning. But in advance of that, Jamie, it is
going to be warm. Unusually warm temperatures are likely for
tomorrow on Saturday for the entire South Island as northwest
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winds bring some pretty warm air from the north, and
we'll find that warm air continuing into Sunday for the
North Island. But meanwhile the South Island turns much cooler
for the day on Sunday as cooler air filters in
from the south and west. And then as we look
farther afield, it looks like we'll find yeah, some cooler
temperatures for next week across much of the country, but
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not significantly cool This is not like a proper winter spell.
And then we could see more warmth and more rain.
We'll have to watch this for the end of May
and early June could be an unsettled warm period.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Hey we got Chris Brendelena excellent is always want to
double past to the field days text field Days. It's
a five double oh nine, your name and where you're
listening from. Enjoy your weekend, Go Foxy Ryan Fox and
the PGA Championship and how good would it be if
Moana Pacifica could beat the Blues See on Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay Thanks to Brents, the starkest of
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Not the lads.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We're gonna lose our master night watch the darlyal.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I love want to talk too much? From the radio.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Pubs, The Rolls.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Penny Snash, Gooday, New Zealand, and welcome to the Country.
My name's Jamie mckaye. The coffin in the background comes
from our Agriculture and Trade Minister, Todd McLay, who's taking
time out of a very busy schedule all around the world,
is in Korea at the moment about the jump on
a plane, I think to Shanghai. He's been there for
(00:51):
an Apex Trade Minister's meeting and he's been talking about
the cp T t TTPPPPP as well. I can never
get that one right, Todd McLay. I'll tell you what's
on the show shortly, but I know you've got to
catch a plane, so tell me what's been happening in Korea.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Jamie, Hey, thanks for having me on. Well, the Apex
trademan this is meeting is on a career. The other
hosts or here, And although the conversation sort of good
around the table, it's an opportunity to meet with different
delegations and talk directly about New Zealand's interests. I've had
a lot of meetings Indonesia where we're just trying to
make sure we keep getting a dairy in there, and
(01:29):
Vietnam and Stylind and stuff like that. But probably the
most important meeting I had was of the United States
Trade Representative ambassador degree and my equivalent in the US,
my equivalent, but a much bigger country.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
So have you cut us a trade deal? Have you
got a reduction on Trumpy's tariffs? Have you got us
down to nothing from our current ten percent?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
No, not at all. Look, it was a really constructive meeting.
We get on quite well. I knew him years ago
when I was trading ut the last time he was
the deputy USDR. It's my second conversation and first one
in person. It's fair to say that they are not
focused on New Zealand. I made the case that I
think that the ten percent tariff they put on everything
is prohibitive. It's harmful, it's not good for the trading relationship.
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It's going to put up costs on US consumers, but
they are quite focused on others where they have big
trade deficits, and they are negotiating with them furiously. And
so look, just made the case I take away from
for what he said that they value the relationship with
New Zealand. They don't see it's the problem. In fact,
they see us as the good guys. But the new floor,
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the bottom teriff right for anybody at the moment, is
ten percent. And I said, well, I guess we're no
worse off, but we want to be better off because
we are good friends. And so he's inviting me up
to Washington later in near to come and sit down
when they're bannedwidth fixers. But you know, when they're through
some of these big, hard, chunky negotiations with the countries
that have you know, huge trade surpluses against.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Them, well we're kind of collateral damage on this and
Trump's trade tariff war. Look, APEC, there's no dismissing this
or talking it down. It's a huge deal. APEX twenty
one economies receive over seventy five percent of New Zealand
exports of our total exports, and represent nearly sixty percent
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of global GDP huge trading.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Block exactly it is.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
It is now we have trade agreements with pretty much
all the countries. There are different types of the US
and Agreement, the ARTP Agreement, the CPTPP, so we have
a number of arrangements with them. The importance for New
Zealand to be at these events so is to sit
at the table. So you know, yesterday in my intervention
which is more about world trade, and you know the Doublego,
(03:45):
you're sitting there where you've got China and the US,
Australia and Mexico and New Zealand. And I'm making the
case that says, look, the Double Goo is a good
institution that serves New Zealand, but we now know to
fix it and change, don't reckon. And by the way,
as we're talking about all these things, how about the
most harmful effect that we know on world trade, which
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is agricultural subsidies in the US and in the European
Union and all over the place. How about we deal
with that finally, so there is a level playing field.
And these guys don't want to hear, but it's important.
In the New Zealand's they're banging the drama continuing to
on behalf of our farmers because no one else will.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Before you got to Korea, you were in the UK.
You spent time meeting with UK Trade Secretary Jonathan Reddold
Reynolds in London. That was the first in person with
him as well, and no doubt the in zed UK
FTA was up for discussion. That's going well.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
For us, Yeah, it is going really well.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I've actually this is my one two three fourth meeting
with them.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Actually, someone gave me some bad info. The heads will
roll now.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
What it was is the first and person in person
meeting of the Joint Commission to implement the FDA. But
I guess the point of that is, you know, the
UK is quite like mine. That we did meet and
talk about. The FDA's working well. Our meat exports, particularly lamb,
are up in that market. We're seeing a lot of
extra sales in there, which is pleasing. Tell you what
(05:14):
I also did though, I want to meet their Agriculture
minister who's he's from a labor government. I suppose he's
feeling but in Battle then I had a dinner with
the National Farmers' Union there president and vice presidents and
the Welsh president and then on the final day, went
out to visit a farm. I want to see what
they're doing. And I tell you what, by golly do
they have an unbelievably complex system over there that just
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hits out their farmers and costs the money. It was crazy.
Here's one of the things they were doing, you know,
run by a diversity. A man said, See those three
fields over there. He said, I received one hundred thousand
pounds a year to plant different types of grass seed
that birds like out there. Nothing's do with production, and
it's just madness their system. And I tell you what,
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They're going to have to reform it because I reckon
it will fail. I back our farmers, who I said
to them. You know, if I said to some farmers
I want you to plant bird seed, to laugh me
out of office. They want to make choices for themselves
and what they're doing we backed them to be world
be thinking.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Well, Todd, you obviously haven't heard the greens alternate budget
while you're away. They want us to plant bird seed
and fields as well.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
That's the reason I will never, in my entire life
vote for the Greens tecually, one of a number of reasons.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, ye're fair enough, they're getting nuttier by the day.
Look the UK, it's tough over there for farmers. Our
guy farmer, Tom Martin tells us all about it. This
proposed inheritance Texas. If farming wasn't tough enough there.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Yeah, And I jokingly made the case of a few
of them I should come on down to New Zealand.
There's no inheritance tax and we just want to back
farmers to do well well. They're very, very interested in
when I said to their ministers I was meeting the
mass then a few the equildn't you know of federated
farmers in New Zealand. They're but worried for me if
I just find them really reasonable people and they want
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to do best for farmers and they've got to advocate
for them, and they have a different view than their
government at the moment. And they were a bit surprised
just how engaged we are health and I meet with
the farming representatives in New Zealand and how we try
and find solutions together. But you know, you have farmers
in the UK that want to produce more and they're
not allowed to and there's just so many rules. I mean,
I ran through how we're getting rid of you know,
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rule up to rule in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And you know they.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Jokingly said, you want to come on down here and
help us sort of run things. So you know, we
shouldn't take for granted the access we had to each
other in New Zealand. We should keep working on that.
But fundamentally I left them with a very very clear
message we should cooperate together on many things, and particularly innovation,
because I said to them, your challenge in the UK
is not New Zealand farmers selling lamb here. It's actually
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that much of the world. But like our greens in
New Zealand want to close farming down and get rid
of it, and we've all got to stand up against
that because the way of life's important. Farmers care about
the land, and actually UK farmers and New Zealand farmers
have more common then. Actually it sounds like sometimes we
might fight a bit over land access.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Okay, Todd, Safe travels home. I know you're going home
via Shanghai. Is that just a drop off or you're
doing business in Shanghai as well?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
No straight through two hours on the ground and home
Saturday morning. A lot to do, a budget next week
and I've got a bit to talk about in the
budget and agriculture Jamie. We might get on the show
later in the week.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
It's really about resilient communities and moving support around to
make sure that we support farmers on the ground and
make sure that they mental health can be as strong
as possible.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Good on you, safe travels home. You've certainly in those airpoints.
Todd maclay there, Minister of Agriculture and Trade. It is
caught up past twelve. You're with the country brought to
you by Brent. Then I wear Michell's gone. Not that
I need it at this very moment in time, but
it is. We had to wear pink. I haven't actually
(08:55):
got any pink in my wardrobe. One of the kids
had an old pink rugby Jersey. I tried that on.
Was unflattering, to say the least, so I ditched that.
I had to turn up their team player and I
had a pink scarf. I don't know where it's gone.
I've lost that as well, But apparently it's you've got
to wear pink today because it's stand up to bullying day,
(09:16):
workplace bullying. I wonder what's happened to Lasher's anyhow. Up
next Emma Paul and Tim Danjen Today's brother and Sister
Farmer panel. Two of the sharpest young minds in agriculture.
But can they agree on methane and Paris? We'll ask
them next. And a surprise career move I think anyhow
(09:36):
for Tim Dunen. That's up next on the Country. Also
on the show Chris Russell, Australian correspondent, Jeremy Rook's Lifestyle
Hobby Farming correspondent and Chris Brandolino from newa Young Farmer
(09:58):
of the Year Grand Final FMG Farmer of the Year
Grand Final coming up in inmber Cargo in early July.
One man who will be there will be this man,
Tim dangein twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the Year
and Tim, you're a West Auckland beef farmer, but not
for much longer. You love the Grand Final that much.
You're moving down to Southland to milk cows so you
can be closer to the event. This is a bit drastic,
(10:20):
isn't it.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
You got Jamie that in the weather mate.
Speaker 10 (10:24):
A couple of the reasons that we're making them move,
but no, just an exciting opportunity that has come up
for my wife and I and you were looking forward
to getting down and getting back to Milton Farming Gummies
Bosh and working for Simon and Jeanine Hopcroft who are
employers of me ten years ago now, so yet back
to the old stomping ground and really excited mate.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
And Simon Hopcroft was the two thousand and four Young
Farmer of the Air. Now is this because you're looking
jealously at your younger sister Emma, who was the Young
Farmer of the Year in twenty twenty three and thinking
she's making a lot more money than me dairy farming.
So I'm going to try an equaler a sibling rivalry here, Tom, No.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up
Dehma and Chris.
Speaker 10 (11:05):
But yeah, like, certainly from an opportunity point of view,
that the financial aspects of it are appealing, there's no
doubt about that. But we've also been at the home
Farm for ten years now and yeah, I'm really proud
of the progress that we've made here and the projects
that we've completed, and now it's just a chance for
us to go off and do something a little bit
different for a while, with certainly the intention is to
(11:25):
end up back at home here, so we're really excited
about it, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Emma Paul knee dangein twenty twenty three Young Farmer of
the Year. Are you going to miss Tim?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Oh dearly, Jamie. He's not going to be just up
the road for me anymore or two hours to Auckland,
isn't it. But yeah, I'll be seeing him first opportunity
down at the Grand Final myself, so I don't have
to wait too long, do I?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
No, you don't. Do you think that there is a
bit of sibling jealousy there you're coining at you and Chris,
your husband, are coining it as dairy farmers, and even
though beef's good costs a lot to you know, replace
beef animals, I don't know. I don't think they're making
as much as you rich dairy farmers, are they, Emma.
That'll get a bite.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
They don't know about that, Jamie in certainly not coining it.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
We're spending money pretty fast at the moment, so it's
just one of those things. Tim's definitely we've been interested
in what we've been doing, but yeah, he's got his
own skill set and he's pretty good dairy farmer himself,
so he doesn't need to look too much at what
we're doing, and I'm sure he'll make his own goal
of it.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
All work and no play makes Emma Paul a dull
former Young Farmer of the Year, But your life's anything
but dull, Emma, because you've been supercar racing in Talpo
with New Holland.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Yeah, that's another great thing that came out of winning
the contest was really a partnership with New Holland there
and the opportunity to be their brand ambassador. So the
supercars are a few weeks ago, but I've been a
bit pety on your show over the last month, sorry, Jamie,
so we'n't had a chance to catch up about it.
But yeah, we got to get down there with New
Holland and see another great community project that they're helping
(12:57):
to fund and they sponsor the Red Bull Ample. I
can't say I was a huge supercar fan before I
went and saw what was going on, but that was
amazing to see and it was just such a great
community event. There was thousands of people who had showed
up in Talpo and a great thing for you know,
Talpo tourism and the money at board into New Zealand
because it's usually on the Australian circuits, so they only
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have that one race in New Zealand a year, so
pretty cool thing for New Holland.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
To support there.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
And you'll also be supporting New Holland no doubt at
field Days, where apart from being a brand ambassador, I
think you're also going to be a judge for the
Innovation Awards and the old days we used to call
it the Inventions.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Yeah, it's pretty lucky to be part of that team, Jamie,
and it's been an exciting process and really neat to
see how many ford thinking people there are out there
in our industry trying to think of solutions every single day.
It's easy enough when you're on your own farm, head down,
battling away to think that no one's coming up with
solutions to the problems that I've been overwhelmed with the
(13:57):
entrants this year and I can't wait to see them
show on the actual field days and get to showcase
to the public what they've been inventing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
We talked about the Young Farmer Grand Final coming up
and in Theicargol this is news to me. I thought
it was like a Final exam. You did everything on
the day or the three days, but there is an
internal assessment part of this, Tim Danjin, and that is
the technical projects. They have been given those now, I
mean that's a month and a half out.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
Yeah, you're right, Jamie. There is an exam on the
technical day at Grand Final as well. But obviously, in
our pursuit to find the best farmer in New Zealand
under the age of thirty one, we have to test
a wide range of skills and a lot of that
stuff is often hard to test in the short time
frame that the Grand finalists are there.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
So they get given an innovation.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Project now, which is worth about fifteen percent of the
overall marks. And the idea of this project is a
really sort of screw into some pretty nitty gritty detail
around how sound they are financially, what their business accoms like,
and really test their innovation as well. So, yeah, the
contestants we're looking at that now stretching their heads. I'm
sure it's pretty tricky finding the balance between coming up
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with something new and coming up with something that's feasible.
So it's a really neat part of the contest that
often doesn't get a lot of airtime, but is quite
critical in finding that top young farmer.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
All right, let's just finish, because you two are amongst
the brightest and best in young farmers in this country.
I got two questions for the pair of you. I'll
go back to you, Emma, measuring methane in Paris. We're
measuring methane correctly? And should we be staying in Paris.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Oh, you've been hot on this topic this week, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I would stick with what Jethyane said this week and
totally agree with her that we should stay in the
Paris Accord. And I'm pretty big on following through on
things that you start, So whether you agree with it
or not, we've started this now, so it'd be good
to follow through with some of the things.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
That we have promised. But in saying that, Jamie, we can't.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Lose sight of food production, and that is actually part
of the Paris Accorders. Do have to be able to
maintain food production and amongst reducing greenhouse scarce emissions. So
that is just the most important thing that we should
be doing in the world right now. There's people out
there without food every day, so we definitely don't want
to be dialing back on something.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Are we're measuring methane correctly? Just quickly?
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Who knows, Jamie that's here?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well you should, are you one of our brightest young minds.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Tell me it's sort of neither here nor there, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
It doesn't matter how you measure it if people want
it reduced, and that's what our customers are asking for.
Shouldn't we be making some attempt to do something? And
I don't think we should be extreme and reduce kettle
numbers and reduce food output. But I don't think there's
any harm in spending a little bit of money in
R and D and you know, putting something away.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
For a rainy day so that we can reduce methane
if we have to.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Okay, a quick final comment from you, Tim, because you
raised this issue.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
Yeah, sure, answer is yes, I think we should get out.
It's just a matter of timing, and I think now
it's too early. Are we measuring it correctly?
Speaker 8 (16:58):
I think no?
Speaker 10 (16:59):
And my real problem with it all, Jamie, is that
we signed up to a floored agreement from the start,
so we've sort of put ourselves in this position unfortunately,
so it's worth speaking up about. But I think the
timing isn't quite there to be pulling out of it
just yet.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
So brother and sister disagreeing on this one.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
It's not uncommon, but a sibling rhyme.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
All right, Emma, Paul will see you at field das Tim,
I won't see you at field days because you're making
your way down to the riviera of the South Riveton
to go dairy farming. Good luck in your new.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Venture, beautiful tuesd Jamie.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Yeah, o god, why.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Do they do this?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Sorry, that's just to me having a weak bitch technical
problem of mind making. I don't want to hear about
z M. This is the country on z B. It's pink. Hello, Michelle,
good morning, Good afternoon, pink. Stand up to bullying day.
You're too nice to workplace. Bully can't even have a
fight with you, and when it was good for the
(17:58):
odd scrap she could fire up.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Yeah, I've lost my fear onness over the years. I
used to be a bit more feral.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
When I was coming youw Belcluther Bogue and yeah anyhow,
so yeah, we all had to wear pink today. Stand
up to bullying, serious subject, shouldn't do it. Glenn, love
your work. Glenn's texted in and said, can't wait to
hear which climate denying boomer you get on today? And
(18:24):
it was interesting that Emma and Tim and they're not boomers.
There are barely thirty years of age.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
Are younger than me.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I think both of them, well, quite a few people
are now Michelle, you're getting a bit longer in the tooth.
But those like they're young people, very smart young people,
and they had a different they disagreed on Paris and
methane measurement. Very interesting. Indeed, now Field Days, we were
talking to Emma about Field Days. She'll be there representing
New Holland, I think as a brand ambassador and also
(18:54):
a judge in the innovation section. They're good. She'll do
a wonderful job there. I want to join Emmir at
Field Days. What you need to do is text us
on five double O nine and you need to text
the word. Don't use the word win, just text Field Days.
Spell it correctly, I F I E L D A
(19:16):
Y S. I'm spelling it out for you, your name
and where you're listening from, and we'll give you the
chance to win that double pass to Field Days. Mystery
Creek June eleven to fourteen. Up next on the Country,
it's our Rossie correspondent Chris Russell. A zempic interesting and
(19:38):
also track the sales in Australia. They're slumping. Why I
hope that doesn't happen here ahead of Field Days. He's
up next before the end of their Jeremy Rooks and
Chris Brandolino. He's our Rossie correspondent Chris Russell based out
(19:59):
of Sydney. Chris, Let's go to Tasmania where there has
been new life for the Tasmanian poppy growing industry due
to these new weight loss drugs such as a zempak.
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, you know, this is epic is a remarkable drug
really and it came from a bloody lizard in America
they discovered called the Gilly monster lizard that spound that
it's got suppressants for appetite which lasts for a week
rather than lasting for a few hours which our natural
ones do. But there are a lot of other side
(20:33):
drugs which are actually also used in that. And whereas
our whole poppy industry in Tasmania was revolving really around
the supply of painkillers and opioid type drugs, and remember
they used to even count the poppies in the field
at one stage. Now they've found that they've got a
demand for some of the weight loss drug ingredients to
(20:56):
come from these as well, and there's a worldwide shortage
of them these drugs, of course, so it's quite almost
impossible to get hold of them. And they're now saying
that Extractors Bio Science, which is the company that now
owns all those growing areas down in Tasmania, is hoping
for extra nine thousand hectares, so they got down to
three thousand hectares only being required for the various drugs
(21:20):
that they use as painkillers, where they're going to grow
on extra nine thousand hectares to be able to supply
this shortage for the drug ozempic highly sought after. So
that's a whole new lease of life. And it's been
used for all sorts of things from diabetes and it's
also been found to reduce information in hearts and therefore
(21:41):
reduced heart attacks. It's become one of the four Pillar
treatments for kidney disease. It's quite an extraordinary drug with
almost no side effects that anyone's discovered other than if
you're taking it for weight loss. Apparently, if you go
off it and you haven't got yourself a good eating habits, Jamie,
you put it all back on again pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah. Hey, Field Days are coming up middle of June
here in New Zealand. It's the biggest agricultural gathering I
think in the Southern Hemisphere, or at least that's what
we're claiming. Anyhow, Now about field days, the real barometer
here is tractor sales in Australia. Tractor sales have crashed
as farmers, especially in the drought regions, prefer to feed
(22:22):
their animals rather than upgrade the tractor.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yes, well, you know, and this is the thing that's
quite surprising the dealerships who had stocked up on tractors
thinking that they would be more of a demand. But
these falls have continued right through April, and with fewer
than eight hundred tractors sold right across Australia in the
thirty day period of April. So that's down thirteen percent
(22:45):
month on month on the month before, and nine percent
down on April last year. Now, you know, while we
had Easter and all that sort of thing in there. Nonetheless,
they're quite surprised that we're not seeing any growth in
tractors because up in the North, you know, they've had
good rain there are expecting to grow another fantastic winter
(23:05):
crop year, which is not something they normally expect. But
in the South it's quite the opposite. They're quite pessimistic
about their crop prospects down in South Australia and West Australia,
and so this is causing quite a lot of trauma
I think for our tractor dealers all around Australia.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Jamie, you've got three more years of elbow and a
labor government not necessarily in fact, they're not farmer friendly.
Let's be honest about it. What are the changes to
that the treasure has made that could affect the sale
of family farms.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, and I think this is going to be a
big issue. Jim Charmers, the Treasurer has been getting a
lot of heat over this from the farmers. But they're
proposing to bring in an unrealized capital agains tax on
superannuation funds that are over three million dollars. Well, a
lot of family farms are put into superannuation funds for
(24:00):
tax reasons and they've passed on to the next generation,
and in that way you're able to maintain that family ownership.
But of course a lot of those farms are worth
a lot more than three million dollars, and they're now
talking about charging a fifteen percent tax on the extra value,
even if you haven't sold anything and haven't realized the money.
(24:21):
So somewhere you've got to drag up fifteen percent of
a couple three five million dollars and pay it to
the government without actually having anything to sell. And that
could cause farmers to start thinking about selling their farms
when they get to retire an age, rather than leaving
them in the super far and living off some of
the proceeds from them and letting the family carry that on.
Now that's a big loss. Of course. It does depend,
(24:44):
of course on the Greens supporting that in the new
Senate when it opens. The Greens have been much depleted
in the House of Reps, but there's still power in
the Senate, so there's a lot of push to sort
of say, Jim Charmers, you need to think about it.
We've had people like Jerry Harvey from Harvey Norman saying
that it's the worst decision, the most stupidity of the highest.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Order, he called it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Elder Statesman Paul Keating, former Prime Minister, has said that
they had to increase that threshold to five minute as
a minimum, but not a good tax. So he's getting
a lot of criticism. But they're desperate for money, Jamie.
Speaker 11 (25:21):
That's the problem.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
An unrealized capital gains taxes straight from the playbook of
our Green's as well. Chris Russell, Australian correspondent. Thanks for
your time. We'll catch you again next week. Come rain, hail,
snow or shine or an ossie rugby team winning Super Rugby.
Heaven help us see you later. No worries, Thank you, Chris.
It is twenty three from one talking about rugby the
(25:46):
Lincoln College Rugby Football Club reunion. And this is for
people like me who went to Lincoln College as it
was known pre nineteen sixty one it was Canterbury Agricultural College.
Post nineteen eighty nine it was Lincoln University. But the
real blokes went there in the intervening years nineteen sixty
(26:06):
one to nineteen eighty nine. So what's happening is registrations
close at stumps today, Okay, So what's happening next Thursday?
The twenty second, casual drinks at High School Old Boys
Rugby Club and formal gathering on Friday the twenty third dinner,
the formal dinner and speeches at the Hornby Club. And
on Saturday the twenty fourth, next weekend lunch and of
(26:29):
course rugby supporting the rugby club at Lincoln University. Google
LCRFC reunion. That's Lincoln College Rugby Football Club Reunion and
register registrations close close of play today. Up next Michelle
with a great event that's happening in the South Otago
town of Lawrence in Rural News.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
No matter what she says.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Now you're.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
It is nineteen away from one. You're with the Country,
brought to you by Brandt Michelle and with rural news
interesting sports news for you as well. Now, just as
a prelude, is that the right word to what Michelle's
going to talk about. Lawrence in South Otago was famous
for the discovery of gold and Gabriel Scully in eighteen
(27:20):
sixty one. The population of Lawrence swelled to over eleven
thousand people, and Dunedin as a result, was New Zealand's
pre eminent colonial city before being eclipsed by the Jaffers
in Auckland. The beautiful thing about Lawrence is Trump would say, Michelle,
it's a great town. It's a beautiful town. It's still
(27:41):
got many of those Victorian and Edwardian buildings and facades.
They're still standing. It's a beautiful town. It didn't get
torn down, torn down in the sixties and fifties, sixties
and seventies and replaced with concrete jungles. And you're going
there tomorrow and here's why.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
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lawn Bower brand. Visit steel Ford dot co dot nzim
for your local stockist.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
That's right.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
I'm heading down there tomorrow and I hope to see
some familiar faces that I know from the farming areas
around South. But this weekend, twenty two farmily farming families
will be awarded in celebrating generations on the land. The
Century Farm Awards are held every year in May and
the small historic gold mining town of Lawrence and take
place in order to celebrate and honor family farms that
(28:31):
have been owned and worked on for one hundred years
or more. It's in its twentieth year now and the
awards are now claim of six hundred families from around
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I think your family we got recognized or awarded in
twenty eleven. Our farm went into our family farmer ownership
in nineteen ten.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Yeah, I'm very excited about going down to this so
it should be fantastic. Even looking forward to meeting everybody.
And thank you to Roger for putting me up down
there at Bellamy.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Say sure gotton God on your Roger, and thank you
for filling in for me. Life's kind of got on
the road for me recently, so I can't make it
and I've only got three words for you or is
it four?
Speaker 9 (29:07):
I'm worried about what these are going to be. Remember
I'm wearing a pink shirt. I'm wearing a pink shirt.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Don't cock it up. Okay, it's a big chance, Michelle,
make a name for yourself. Knock the ball out of
the park. There's Michelle with oh yeah, she's pointing towards
who's our field. Day's double pass oneer?
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Okay. A double pass winner from yesterday is Rosemary Brandon,
who was listening from Oatry Honger. So well done, Rosemary,
enjoy that double pass. Make sure you go.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Visit us in the pavilion, Indeed.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
Sport with AFCO.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Visit them online at a FCO, dot co dot NZ.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I love watching golf. Momentum from a maiden PGA Tour
victory has propelled Ryan Fox into a share of fourth
after the first round of this year's second men's major,
The Auckland Golf has three shots off the lead. After
carting a four under pass sixty seven at the PGA
Championship at Quayle Hollow. Gee Rory had a bit of
a shocker and Forbes MEGA has just issued its annual
(30:01):
estimate of how much cash is landing in the wallets
of the world's highest paid sportspeople. He's forty years of
age now, but Cristiano Ronaldo has topped the list for
the third consecutive year and for the fifth time in
his career, with a haul of around four hundred and
sixty eight million dollars. Golden State Warriors basketballer Steph Curry,
who's injured at the moment, has dunked second, netting two
(30:25):
hundred and sixty six million. Good money if you can
get it up next. Jeremy Rocks. We tease the fact
that this man was going to be on the show tomorrow,
and first up, I have to apologize for calling him
a pest. Some people call him a pest, but he's
not really. He's always informative and entertaining on this show
(30:48):
our resident lifestyle slash hobby farmer, Jeremy Rocks, former carbon farmer.
How many more ways can I insult you, Jeremy.
Speaker 11 (30:56):
Well, people off ease dude, but I can't repeat that.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
No, no, Well, I mean to be fair. We do
love each other and I do enjoy your input because
you're a bit like Jane Smith, and I know you're
a big fan of Jane Smith. No one ever dies
wondering what you're thinking. Now. This is live radio, my friends,
so please be careful before you're tee off today.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Well, well, there's not a lot of tea off about really,
but there have been a couple of things in the
last week that have just absolutely fascinated me, like the
temerity of Insured Farming and Groundswelders to survey all the
people that use their website about what they think about
getting out of Paris and the methane and stuff. And
then obviously the people affected are the farmers and they
(31:41):
have voiced their opinion through through that survey, but they're
how dare the people that are being affected voice their opinion.
They've been round housed by you know, Grant mc national,
the National.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Party, everyone else going how dear these people there, they're
Luod eyes and it's like, no, these are these are
the people on the ground that know what's going on.
And you've only got to look at the decrease in
all the stock units for a start, they're disappearing at
a million miles now, and so how earth can we
even justify being in the Powis Agreement when our clearly
(32:14):
methane emissions are dropping anyway, just by.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
The lack of stock. It's just no.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, Biattrician, I know you didn't hear it. But the
Dungeons brother and sister, both very bright young people, former
Young Farmers of the Year. Emma had a differing opinion
to Tim. Emma says we've got to stay in the
Powis Accord and she wasn't sure about methane measurement. Tim
was pretty definitive on both of them. He said, we
need to get out of Paris. Not yet, it's too early.
(32:40):
And he said the measuring system for methane is flawed,
and I would tend to agree with Tim on this one,
but I.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
Mean, you know the thing i'd ever say, it's the
it's the people above the producers that make all these
decisions that apparently are in our best interest. But everything
about this climate change not since it's a straw man argument.
I mean, renewables don't work, they break down, the wind
doesn't blow, you know, solar doesn't work on cloudy days,
(33:09):
and then when it does generate powers too much for
the good to handle. We've got this sort of the
evil of ruminants where they are natural. You know, a
ruminants animal is a natural biosystem of you like, that's
evolved over millions of years, and so why would you
try and muck around with an animal's natural biology. I mean,
(33:29):
it's just crazy. In the Paris Accord itself says you
cannot affect food production. So I mean there's a natural
out there anyway. We just don't need to do anything stupid.
We just box on, or we get it and get
out of it, or just ignore it. Basically, it's probab
of the easiest way, if that makes sense, because you
know clearly the government's well aligned to this Powis accord
(33:52):
and all the stuff. But I just think it's ridiculous personally.
I just can't see how how how they can even
anything because they can't. They've never got anything, any facts.
They just go to market demands. It will show us
the evidence. Please show us the evidence.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Let's get a final comment from you on the carbon farming.
And I give you a bit of stick about being
a carbon farmer, but the factor is you did save
your Central Hawks Bay farm. It went to forestry slash
carbon farming. I know new rules or new legislation is
coming into place later this year, but it's not stopping
what I would describe almost as a rampant in some
(34:30):
cases blanket planting of good pastoral and even worse arable land.
It's a crime.
Speaker 11 (34:38):
Yeah, well it has going full bore at the moment,
like half a Hawks Bay has gone and the forestry
between sort of one steed out to a markery in
Central Hawk's Bay. There is a road there now that's
got two farms left on it. When we left three
years ago there was about seven or eight. Yeah, it's
(35:00):
it's going full board until the rules change in October.
I think it is, which is a real shame.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah, they need to change. I don't know. I mean
they're fast forwarding the pay equity in the House. You'd
think they could do the same thing with the carbon farming.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
No, I don't know. I mean, don't talk about the
House of Parliament. I mean, as Winston Peters said, I
just can't get my head around what's going on in there.
It's a circus. It's like it's like mufty day at
school when you look at the greens and Tapadi marywalk
in there and then it is like school because Jerry Brownley,
the ex woodwork teacher, couldn't run a bath by the
look of him, you know, as speaker, he's just letting
(35:33):
them get away with murder. It's I don't know, it's
quite unbelievable what's going on in this country at the moment.
It's insanity rules.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I blame Trevor Mallard and that's my final shot. I
blame him for a lot of things. Actually, Jeremy Rock's
well done. Always enjoy your opinion and time here on
the country. Sorry for calling you a pest. That's all right, thanks, Jess.
And I know you don't want me to mention this,
but Happy Birthday. Bryce Mackenzie tells that Lawrence is in
West Otago, not South Otago. I'm duly corrected, and before
(36:04):
I forget. Farmstrong's five Ways to Wellbeing are simple daily
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you and lock it and Eddie Chris Brandoleno to wrap
(36:26):
the country. Wrapping the country with Chris Brandolino from newa Wee.
Bit early for his winter forecast, but a bit of
a cold change coming at Chris.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
So after the weekend, Jamie, there will be a warm
kind of wet field to the weekend. That'll start for
the South Island, so west of the South Island tomorrow
on Saturday, Fjordland, even interior Otago gets a good drop
of rank, certainly west coast of the South Island from
Tasman right the way through to Fjordland. That'll be Saturday
and Saturday and that front moves north and that'll bring
(37:03):
rain to the North Island. But not until late on Sunday,
so places like Tedanaki with the soils are still dry
and why cook out. You'll get some much needed rainfall
and that'll move north and should exit the country by
Monday morning. But in advance of that, Jamie, it is
going to be warm. Unusually warm temperatures are likely for
tomorrow on Saturday for the entire South Island as northwest
(37:25):
winds bring some pretty warm air from the north, and
we'll find that warm air continuing into Sunday for the
North Island. But meanwhile the South Island turns much cooler
for the day on Sunday as cooler air filters in
from the south and west. And then as we look
farther afield, it looks like we'll find yeah, some cooler
temperatures for next week across much of the country, but
(37:46):
not significantly cool This is not like a proper winter spell.
And then we could see more warmth and more rain.
We'll have to watch this for the end of May
and early June could be an unsettled warm period.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Hey we got Chris Brendelena excellent is always want to
double past to the field days text field Days. It's
a five double oh nine, your name and where you're
listening from. Enjoy your weekend, Go Foxy Ryan Fox and
the PGA Championship and how good would it be if
Moana Pacifica could beat the Blues See on Monday.
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