May 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Hamish McKay talks to Stu Loe and Stu Duncan, Dr John Roche, Jen Corkran, Chris Brandolino, and Rowena Duncum.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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all the best on a pretty tough day for him,
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(00:45):
We bring you the country and on a Friday, pretty
wet and a lot of parts of the country today.
I've even heard whispers of snow down, oh, Mark Olway,
so we're going to find out more about that. We're
going to kick straight into it with the farmer panel. Hey,
this is a great way to start here Friday. Get
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some men of the land, you know, scanning and shearing
in all weather conditions, you know, tidying up heading into winter,
although I guess at this time of the year we
are pretty much into winter. Of course. Our farmer panel
is Stuo Low and stew A Duncan toos Jews gentlemen,
Good afternoon, Hey, yeah, good thank you will start with
(01:30):
you Stu Dunk and I hear there is a bit
of you know, the bit of the white stuff starting
to fluff around in there. And they never never regions
down near you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know, we've had a bit of a cold blast
go through and everyone was completely white about an hour
and a half ago. But the share has gone roll
through it into the white taking now and we've got beautiful,
clear blue sky and the snow is starting to retreat.
But the hawk things are one hundred percent white and
the top of the hill country is still pretty white.
So was cold just remind us and one is just
around the corner.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So that's just what happens.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, so get used.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
To it, Yeah, exactly. Stud you been trying to do
a bit of sharing and a bit of scanning. How
are you getting on?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, no, we had a sort of we're had frosty
starts in foggy days have not my fow ideal for
keeping sheep dry, but we got it done, got a
few done yesterday, and yeah, that southerly's just now. It's
dry at the moment, but it's cold here, so it's
obviously roaring up the country. So but yeah, she said
(02:28):
it's twinter time and it's probably what we expect, but
hopefully get the scanning scan men and next week and
get a few figures and a few things sort of
out for the for the coming feed budgets and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Where's your place to you exactly?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
And we're about you now north of christ alias gaggles.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, and you still remain a good Glenn mark man.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yes. Yeah. The boy's been the had Oxford last night,
I think Stew's boy Mitch as he's playing and they
had a good wind last light of Oxford under the light,
so lar want to get away for the long weekend.
So that was been a good start rugby wise. So
hopefully the ridden Backs can do it tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, excellent Brumby's tonight. And of course at the business
end of the season. I don't know whether I should
mention the Highlanders to the other stew though. I mean
still we've got the Chiefs the chance to, you know,
at least put something on the table to end the season.
Stu Duncan.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, it's been a pretty amazing competition, hasn't it really,
But you know, the Wholders have not wanted to be
there for trying. They've been trying everything and they've got
pretty close at times, definitely, but that's a tough gig.
They're very young side, so you know in a couple
of years will be interest to see how they come
through it. And every team has a bit of a redevelopment,
don't they. And we saw that to sade As last year.
So no, it's been a pretty fierce competition, right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Our gentlemen. We'll talk about a bit more footy a
little bit later later on the show. We're going to
be talking to somebody who's very good in the world
of science and that is doctor John Rosho of course
is the MPI Chief of Sion Advisor among many other things,
and science and technology on the farm now, Stu, you
(04:07):
know as the as the mayor of weather Burn down there.
How important is your phone to you and everything you
do across your your work life, your social life, your
farming life, everything.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well it's become really important now if you can get
connectivity and we're probably I think you know you talked
about Omercaw before where it's the most central part of
New Zealand f on two coasts, and not always do
we get connectivity and cell phone reception, but you know,
whether you're using the resolution app or or you're checking
the meat schedule, or you're checking.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
The currency or your will prices.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Technology, the technology and the ability to use your phone
is all the time, and and you wear the forecast,
so you know, it is massively important. But it wasn't
that long ago we had party lines, and so we've
come a long way, and I guess the next twenty
years of here a pretty big step forward to and
and for some of those older ones or not that clever,
that does get challenging. But for the young ones they
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bounced it pretty well.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well Stu of course, the others stow Low, he's been
very challenged by his phone because he's lost it. How
are you coping? I mean, there's one thing where you
don't get a bit of connectivity and you know you
might have to you know, borrow the neighbors or something
to lose your phone. In this day and age, that's debilitating.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yes. Yeah, as you said before, we were sharing and
all sorts of things were about to happen, and you know,
I'm a phone actually got a crack and the screen
after being dropped several times obviously, and then then it
gave up the ghost. But either we fill it down
and I think you was able to put a new
screen on it this morning. We're back up and running.
So but yeah, you're absolutely shared without your phone and
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because you lose all your phone numbers and that sort
of thing when it doesn't work. But we still run
a landline here and but the hardy ever goes. My
mum brings me on that and my uncle and it's
probably probably about it. And then you get a few
scammers now and again, so here, yeah, at least with
with yourself when you can see who's ringing and if
(06:02):
you know them, you answered, if if you don't, you
swipe it and carry on.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You still run a landline.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Hell yeah, yeah, I'm not sure for how much longer,
but I'm not here. Yeah, there's not not Minnie us
yeah and exte yet the cell phones don't always work
around here, so it's it's handy to have it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So yeah, ye stew from further south, you'd still have
a landline, win you because you're a little bit more
isolated than our north of christ Its stue low.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, we have to got landlines and not much for
sure how long they'll be around, but.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
To avoid a role.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But I think they're going to be cleaned out pretty soon.
So you know, sometimes you don't get any reception anywhere
around here, especially you know there are catably somewhat standing
on the line in the creek, or a digging might
go through any out of both.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Butler is stud you get a bit of a breakover
King's Birthday weekend or what's sort of happening on the
farm as you head into the into the you know,
into the business end in the into the winter.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The kids are coming home from all over the country
and the snow froll. We brought a few deer down,
so we'll just see what's happening. And now it's coming
from aukand so she's getting picked up now, so she'll
get a fright coming into the cold. But I was
hanging around and trying to do something over the weekend,
and it's about.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It really stockwise. What's happening. Are you getting a few away,
what's what's sort of wrapping up for house and gloating.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I've got a week few store lambs to go
next week just to tide out the CrossBridge and then
it gives them bit a room for the harp bridge
and take them through and shear them and we've got
a wall contract which is pretty good and give them
away hopefully a ten or ten plus schedule and then
we'll start killing them big bullets that they're on beating
out and all the rest of the cattle are on
crop and all the ues now pushed out in the
hill for a couple of weeks, a lot of feed
out there, and then we'll bring them in a start
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feeding them get ready for scanning. So we're sort of
really hunking into a bullsar. Last week was meant really well.
So the last of the bulls going away today, So
we're just tieding up loose ends really in and they'll
be about us.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, we'll still further up north scott is scanning to
do next week. How about in thirty seconds, gentlemen, given
this blake called Trump, and now these three judges have
sort of given him a bit of a saddy mind
his backside a bit, but you know he has a
rule unto himself. Have you had thirty seconds each, starting
with East, how would you how would you sum him up?
And your thoughts on him and the impact that he
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could have on us in our economy?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Uh? Well, we we obviously it's dawn on the world
that we produce high quality food in the States certainly
need our lean grinding beefs for their for the hamburger trade,
which is obviously huge, and on the scheme of things,
we're only a little pimple on the on the back
side of it and help and really in the world
trade things. But yeah, when when, when whatever ideas he's
(08:42):
got it effects, it will effect us. But at the moment,
everyone wants to red meat and products that we've got
in the in the dairy stuff. So things are looking
looking good if we can keep the quality and in
and that sort of thing going forward and keep promoting
(09:02):
the clean green image that we that we do.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, not very good. So you, Dagham, what are
you recking of them?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh well, he's not frightened to ask those hard questions.
And you know, you'd argue, in the last twenty years
of politics, we haven't been asking enough hard questions. And
he's trying in his own way, probably to bring peace.
And I know someone wanted to meet companies. Rush is
a big market for us, and you know he's not
getting on too well there. But you know, I think
he's just asked the questions he's bringing negotiation and he
wants America to be better and brighter. Whether he gets that,
(09:31):
I don't know, but the markets have settled down after
his tariffs, and I mean, all we want, really New
Zealand is a steady, steady market to export into. And
those markets open up, and we have our dollars saying
around the fifty six to fifty eight cents, and the
US dollar strengthens when we go into America and Australia,
and Australia look at their beef schedule and their lamb
shuedele if we can just follow on behind that and
(09:52):
we export a lot into Canada and into America, into Europe.
I think we know he's just brought a few debates
to the table we might not like, but he seems
to be able to say what he wants. Every One
gathers around so they say it pans out, but at
the moment it's all good, so we'll just hope it
stays that way.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right. They're going to wrap it up very quickly with
some footy, and I know that your hearts won't be broken.
But if the Blues get home over the wire, tars
Maana Pacific, I have to beat the Hurricanes. Now I
reckon that they you know, like it was a bit
of the baby out with the bathwater against the Chiefs
last week from from Tanna's team. But they can they
beat this hurricane sider and knock the Blues out and
and and be in the top Sex What a story.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, well, yeah, it'll be. The Hurricanes are sort of
having heaving form at the right time of the year.
So even though they're coming off a buy, I think
are they I think I think the Hurricanes will do it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, okay, and the Blues might just sneak in there
and they just might be the sleeper in there, the
banana skin, so they say, hey, gentlemen, got to wrap
it up there, thank you very much. That is our
our farmer panel, the men of the le and of
course from down there Winnabourn Way, stew Duncan, stew Loom
from North Canterbury. Fantastic to talk to those two and
(11:09):
very eloquent. That's stud Loo and so is stew Duncan.
Great stuff. This is the country, Ah, yes, this is
the country. Hamish MacKaye m c ka y in for
Jamie mckaye. You may ce ka y. Great to have
(11:31):
your company on a Friday as we headed the King's
Birthday long weekend. Right, we're now looking at, of course
the well he's the MPI Chief Science Advisor, Prime Minister's
Chief Science Advisor and Deputy Chairman of the Prime Minister's News,
Science and Technology Council, and it is doctor John Roach.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
John, how are you so fantastic, Hamish?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Great to be here, Great to have you here with us.
You were recently a p What did the Prime Minister's
cheat Science Advisor? Congratulations on that?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
What what do you?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What are you and the board aiming to do and
and hope for you to achieve in this role?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Thanks Amish, and look at Kim has a bit of
a surprise to me and a huge honor. But what
we're what we're the Advisory Council and myself included are
looking to do is it sets some strong priorities and
some strong guidelines for the science community. And what are
the priorities going forward for research investment in the zill Okay?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So so what we we what you know, I guess
what are a couple of key things that you'd really
like to nail early on?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Well early on obviously we're going through a science physical
structure reform in terms of taking the cris and putting
into amalgamating them into public research organizations and and that's
a big piece of work that's that's ongoing, and I'm
very very keen to get involved and make sure that
we lend that is as effectively as we can. We're
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all of you know, the people actually coming out the
other end looking forward to their science careers. So that's
an important part of it. And then in the next month,
the Science and Technology and Innovation Advisory Council will get
together just to meet each other. Some of us know
each other already, but we don't know each other as
a group, and that will be a good opportunity to
(13:20):
look over terms of reference, make sure we're all on
the same page in terms of what that means, and
then step forward into a pretty healthy work program over
the next six months.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Look, in this fast changing world, those who are not
taking we're not seeing the importance and relevance of sciences
in our country and the world. That's shooting themselves in
the foot, aren't they. I mean, because we just got
to move.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, Well, generally people that don't take science seriously don't
understand that most of the things they do on a
day of day basis have in some way been underpinned
by science and the technology that's derived from it. So
and look, that's fine. You know, we all go about
our busy lives taking things for but you're absolutely right.
Fast past world climate is changing rapidly. There's a lot
(14:07):
of opportunities for New Zealand to take advantage of and
they will be underpinned by research, science and innovation.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Sticking with science, you've expanded the Science for Farmer's program
and it's presence that she is a field ice. Tell
us more about that.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Oh, look, it's exciting. So up till very recently, I
was the director of the Entrance Support Team as MPI
and farmers around the country had made it really clear
to me that they felt disengaged from the science system.
You know, the reforms of the nineties had taken away
the advisor that sat between the scientists and the farmer
and the two way conversation that tended to happen. And
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so last year we took on the initiative of setting
up a large standard mystry Creek brought a number of
private and public sector scientists into that to talk about
the science they were doing and answer farmers questions and
it was a huge success. So we actually took that
on the road, went to the four regional fielders this
year and again had great interactions with farmers, just great conversations.
(15:08):
So we decided to do it again and do it
bigger and better. And so we're on a site, different site,
just up from where we were, but in a better location,
right beside the Village green straight out of the pavilion,
and you know, it's a big site covering farm profitability
and productivity, covering aspects of farming that we need to
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consider into the next thirty years as the climate changes
and made aspects of what we do just a little
bit more difficult. All of the investments that are going
into greenhouse gas mitigations by the New Zealand Agricultural Greenhouse
Gas Research Center and by AGRA zero, they'll be there
on site as well. We have a section on genetic technologies,
so LIC and I Research will be we'll be leading
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the conversations on how using modern genetic technologies is accelerating
our genetic improvement in animals and then the potential for
gene editing to advance our our agricultural sector. And then
finally it's almost the piece to resistance. Actually, we have
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a section on freshwater quality and darien zed and nacy
and others. You know, we're going to have We're going
to have constructive wetlands there that will low us to
have really good conversations with farmers that are interested in that.
We will be talking about detension bonds and bioreactors and
and other mitigations that farmers can could put in place
to you know, achieve what they wanted. They want to
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achieve for their fresh.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Water and they do want to achieve. I think that's
so you know, it's such you know, so many there's
so much murky water when it comes to the reporting
of what what farmers want to achieve and how much
they care and how much they want to do. And
you mentioned the word disengagement. I mean, that's such a
dangerous path to go down. It's so great to hear
from you that these farmers are now coming to the
likes of the field days and actually offering it up
(16:58):
on stuff that I'm sure is very constructive for mule perspective.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Absolutely. Look, you use the nail on the head I
get to meet the farmers that doesn't want to leave
the environment in the better state than here. She received this,
and we've got a we've got a few farmer panels. Actually,
we've got it. We've got as well as having all
of these scientists on site, we have wall to wall
panels for people to come and listen to, and a
couple of those panels are farmers coming along to talking
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about key aspects of their business that they've managed to nail.
So it's very very difficult to be the best at everything,
but every farmer is the best at something. And so
what we've done is we've put picked a couple of
key topics there and picked farmers that are really proven
in achieving industry goals in those areas, and they're going
to come along and tell us how they've done it.
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And that's a really exciting part of the of the forum.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Doctor John Rush, thank you very much for joining us
here on the country.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Thanks Demis.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
We got the MBI Chief Signs Advisor, Brian medisa's Chief
Signs Advisor, Doctor John Rusch. There coming up in a
Corcoran and senior analysts animal Protein with Rabobank. And before
we go to a break. I just can't get over
the sympathy that was in the voices of Stu Loo
and Stu Duncan for the Blues Rugby Teeth.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
This is the Country, Climb up in Love, setin Top Politicians,
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
Out of Politics, one the Country Harmless mckaye in for
Jbie McKay on your Friday. I hope you're having a
good day where you are, whatever you might be doing.
Just want to quick shout out to the members of
the New Zealand Rugby wore up in Gisbon. Probably about
now we'll be watching Gisban Boys playing Napier Boys in
a Super eight forty match there and of course the
thing tomorrow. I think they head across to Rotoria, East
(18:42):
Coast Poverty Bay. So good on you, seel of rugby
for getting out in amongst the provinces. Of course, somebody
who doesn't a fantastic job out amongst the provinces. Senior
analyst Animal Protein for Rabobank, Jen Corcoran joins us. Now,
Killy Jen, how are you? I'm good? Thank you? How
are you doing?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Not too bad, but of fun coming in and filling
in for the old namesake. The senior Makai by quite
a number of years actually, to be fair, Jean, but
he does. We once had a shearing competition a few
years back, and to be fair, he cleaned me up.
So you know, we but hey, hey, you know that's
how it goes. And has Lot got off the boat
and learned how to spell their name properly in mind
dropped the A from the NAC so, you know, look
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to regret that ever since. Right, we've got the Q
two Beef quarterly report that's coming out shortly.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
A bit of a preview today, so this report will
be out next week. So yeah, the quarter two Beef
Quarterly from the Rubbery Research team. So this is a
global report and yeah, i'd say this is a pretty
good mid twenty twenty five snapshot of what's gone on
and what we think is going to go on in
those global beef markets throughout the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Okay, so tell us about the global outlook when it
comes to production and supply.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah, so global production is about to sort of hear
into a bit of a declient. So what we've seen
and we've got the data global across that first quarter,
so essentially from January through to the end of March,
and there's also a bit of April discussion within the report.
But what we've seen actually over that period is a
modest year on year increase in terms of that globe
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will supply of beef, so pretty steady year on year.
But the prediction now looking across broadly of all the
countries that we cover here, and that's everywhere that Rubber
Research sets around the globe, so all the big beef
production regions, we're expecting to see a contraction by about
two percent for the rest.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
With that demand's piece, you know, the number of people
still wanting to buy a net meat, red meat and
beef in particular still really strong, so that you know,
contraction of supply with really strong demand is leading to
some record breaking prices and we've seen that here in
New Zealand and all some places like Europe. In the
US we're seeing sort of record high beef prices at
the moment. So it's an interesting outlook really going ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Hamos, Yes, certainly is. I mean, there's always you know,
is somebody who mixes his time between urban and rural.
There's been plenty of those who want to knock the
old red meat off, but it keeps bouncing back, doesn't it.
You know that increased demand and desirability is still there globally.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Yeah, and it's a versatile protein, right, beef. There's a
lot we can do with it. People know how to
cook it, and we've see huge demand from the States,
which we've talked about a lot this year and it's
well reported around the media right with the United States
heard rebuild and the demand for lentrom, which ourselves in
Australia are very good at sending to them. So that
demand piece is really being seen here in terms of
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some great pricing and a law of products still heading
over to the state.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Okay, we're talking with Gen Corkran's senior analyst animal Protein, Rabobank,
Harris McKay. And for Jamie McKay, the Trump tariffs, she's
having fun with a few judges or three judges or
something at the moment, has he, mister Trump. But all
the uncertainty and unpredictability in global markets that that has
caused in recent months, including in the global beef market.
(21:57):
What's the likely impact of these tariffs for for New
Zealand Australia And actually where do you see them sitting
and will they happen. I mean it's a it's a yeah,
talk about an open book.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah, And it's hard to keep up with at the moment,
isn't it. And of course based the big one that
we're watching here because this is where we've seen, you know,
there is where we see a lot of value coming
back from New Zealand and that values up hugely this
year and we're still seeing that now. But the Trump
tariff suddenly have created someone certainty in terms of what
we might expect to see for the rest of the year.
But broadly, the good news is that we're currently facing
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that ten percent regardless of what happens. You know, it's
currently facing that ten percent baseline tariff, the same as
pretty much all the other main beef production regions that
are sending into the United States. So we're on a
level playing field. That's a good news story for New
Zealand and the same for Australia. Now for the real
watching point, I think for US really lies in those
US China relations and what this trade will might mean
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there because we you know, we're a pretty good spot.
We're shielded somewhat given that we know that they're you know,
the demand from the US is going to be really
strong for that lantram and we're going to fill that
critical supply get quite easily from this side. But you know,
whatever fallout we might see between the States and China
and some of the other Asian countries could even you know,
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potentially be good for us too. But a watching point,
I think in terms of all those puzzle pieces being
up in the air with global trade at the moment
and just where they're all going to land over the
next six months. So we'll continue to watch that and
there's certainly some turbulence, but we're in an okay spot
and we're sittingly on a level playing field with everyone else.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
So that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Great to know, great to know. Thank you very much.
That as Jen Corkoran, Senior Analyst, Animal Protein. With Rabobank
coming up next, it's pull out the old chainsaw time.
The Steel Chainsaw give away winner will be announced next
here Hamus McKay and for Jamie McKay's.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
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Speaker 6 (23:55):
Keyser.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
So we've got some pretty exciting news coming up around
the Steel Timber Sports Team announcement that's very shortly but
right now, a bit of winning We love a bit
of winning right here on the country, and of course
it is tied to announced the last one of the
stool comp we've got t here this of course, well
they'll receive a Still MS one, a two chainsaw and
(24:22):
a Still safety pack together worth around about that eight
hundred and eight hundred dollars a fantastic now. Yesterday's question
was name only three product categories where Still can provide
a battery powered tool option. Well, among the answers you
could have given chainsaws, backpack, spray as line, drimers, law mowers.
(24:45):
The list is endless. For that that Still MS one
a two chainsaw and Still safety pack eight hundred dollars
worth and the winner, I'll give myself a bit of
a drum roll here and Leon Oliver Leon Oliver can
Gradu from the Mighty hawks Bay the winner of the
Still MS one a two chainsaw and Still safety pack.
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Yes, big announcement, Hamish and I think this is one
of your favorite events. And I think Andy producer Andy
and Auckland has become slight slightly obsessed with timber sports
as well. I hear so naming of the New Zealand
Steel Timber Sports team and in the team is Jack
Jordan from the King Country in the underhand cleveland cherry
from the wire Cattle and the standing bloc, Quentin Forced
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it from the Wira Rapper and the single buck and
Chris Lord from the wire cattle and the stocks saw.
Now Jack Jordan will also represent New Zealand and the
individual still Timber Sports World Championship. He's won that trophy
quite a few times I think I think this was
three times last year at that World Championships. And another
fun fact, Quentin Force it is actually from generation of
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wood choppers hamish Ah.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Look I tell you what the Forcet family from the
wire Rapper and of course his grandfather was Edie Forcet
who and they have two atarhi axes and saws. Now,
if you're like you know what you know when you
think of the best whiskey or the best men's tweed
jacket or something, all the best men's axe or saws,
it's a two e tahi from the Forcet family in
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the Wider Rapper. There you go.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Excellent and good luck to that team. I think it
was the first time. They're all hearing that as well today.
So congratulations to that team that's been selected. They're heading
to Milan and Italy. What a great place to go.
I wish I was going to maybe I'll take up
axe chopping.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Michelle, why aren't you there? I mean, I mean, I
think I think you'd be a wonderful addition to that team.
I mean, you got Jack Jordan, I mean, the bloke
is a dead set beast. Cleveland Cherry and the standing block.
I mean, you've got to have beautiful balance, crentin Force.
It is not a big person. But che can he
saw and Chris Laud the other one as well. The
starf I love it, I love I love the Timber
(27:03):
Sports fantastic great staff.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think we've got more sports news there.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And are you on the other.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Side, Sport were the nathco Kiwi to the bone since
nineteen oh four?
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Yes, thanks Michelle and and Sport the black Caps they
appear set to get a new coach, Gary Steed's almost
seven year Ragners mental to the new Zealand men's cricket team.
It's understood that the sticking point was Steed's desire to
only coach the red bull side, handing over the reins
on the one day and t twenty setup. The final
candidates for the overall coaching job are former fast bowler
(27:36):
Shane Bond and recent South African white ball coach Rob Walter.
And Argentine Court has declared a mistrial in the case
of seven health professionals accused of negligence and the death
of football great Diego Maradona in twenty twenty. The entire
case will be reheard and a quick update. In the NBA,
New York lead Indiana forty to thirty two in Game
(27:59):
five of the Eastern Conference Finals. If Indiana win this,
they will go on to face the Oklahoma City Thunder
in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Lost. I lost interest when the Celtics went out. It
broke my heart. I really thought they were going to do.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
The reat you poor man with eighteen titles to your name, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Gary Stid is surprised by that.
I would have thought that that would be a good so.
I mean, the amount of time they have to spend
on the road.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
That's you know, I am quite surprised by that. Oh
I'm not surprised by Gary Steed opting to leave. But
he's our greatest ever black Caps cricket coach, so it's
a huge, huge hole to fill there, and obviously I'd
love to keep him on as a test coach, but
they want all three and to be honest, they might
not have the money to pay for different coaches across
different formats.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
There you go, righty. Coming up, we're going to hear
from our man Chris Bandolino. Mister Brandolino, the Knee were
principal scientists, our weather guy on a Friday right here
on the country. And later on I'm gonna be talking
to the one on ony road. Looking forward to that
coming out.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
He headed to the dam.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
We all in doing.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I'm leaving gas and if you aren't boat Keela,
I'm pretty senior readers, I have no reason this the
country time now to be joined by weather guy on
Friday gives us all the great information. Chris, Brenda, Lena,
How are you, Chris.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
Coda, I'm well, how are you Hamish?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, very well, thank you. I've enjoyed the sound of
my own voice a bit much this hour, so I'm
gonna have to get your cracking through. What's what's the
outlook all the way again? What do we what can
we expect?
Speaker 10 (29:42):
I think generally speaking it'll be good, not everywhere, thank
eastern parts of the both islands. So if you're listening
from eastern Bay of plenty Gisbon, particularly Hawk's Bay, Eastern
Water Rappo, also Canterbury, uh looking pretty good. That's where
dry weather is most likely to persist. It is going
to be windy weekend. I think the wind will grab
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weather headlines for much of well, certainly tomorrow and Saturday,
So like Dunedin will be quite windy on Saturday, especially
out in the peninsula and also toward coastal Southland and
over the high country, wider Rappa, Ontior Hawks Bay, over
the Range's usual suspects, and that wind will persist into Sunday,
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but easing just a little bit. So the wind strongest
tomorrow but getting better with time and temperature is really
not that bad. It's chilly weather tomorrow, so if you're
in Southland, if you're in tagots and Otago tomorrow it
will be chili especially with the wind and it will
be showers of rain and snow to about one thousand
meters or so.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, we're talking to Stude Darnkin from being the Windowbourn
area early on Marca down round there, but a snow
there is that we've seen what we're going to see
of that.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
No, look, our winter outlook we just released it last yesterday,
I should say, I beg your pardon, and the winter
outlook is that it's going to be a warmer than
average winter. That's what we're expecting.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Now.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
Yes, there'll be cold snaps and frost Hamish, but it's
expected will be probably less of those in what is typical.
So a warmer than average lean for the winter season
and rainfall is probably going to be a wetter than
the usual winter for the upper half of the of
the North Island. So why couto North ond in Auckland
likely to see odds for a wetter, wetter than usual winter,
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and that wetter than usual conditions could happen other parts
of the country. It's just a bit unsure. I think
Canterbury gets a normal winter in terms of rainfall. But look,
it doesn't mean that rainfall is a lumpey. You go
through dry spells and wet spells, and when it all
comes out at the end of the day, end of
the in the wash. We think near normal for the
eastern part of the South Island, but other parts of
the country will tilt wet, especially the upper part of
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the North Island.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
There we go, Chris Brandling. Now you a man of
quality over quantity. Thank you very much, much appreciated.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
All right, my friend.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The food Day's Blue Mill like a jump you.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Cold beer on Friday night, a pair of jeans and fits.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm so going to have to get a Friday playlist. Roe.
Did you put this together?
Speaker 6 (32:10):
I did?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I did?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Yeah, help Sandy out.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
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Speaker 5 (32:48):
Row.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, let's get a bit of a chat before we
wrap the show up here. The PINS conference coming up
in christ Church.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
Yeah, twenty fourth and twenty five fifth of Joan to
Pie in christ Church. So I'm going to be the
MC during the day both days. I mean, Jamie's gonna
MC the evening the gala dinner, so he'll be there
in his penguin suits.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
A penguin suit. Well he does, he does. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
So the focus this year is going for growth, working
together to turbocharge the primary sector because it's obviously been
a little bit challenging this year with the tariffs and
everything going on and stuff. So I love this conference.
I attended at once, was lucky enough to MC it
last year, which was my second time. And it's the
people in the room, you know, and it's the chance
to get like farmers to global strategists, politicians, just getting
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everyone together and focused on shaping the future. It's a
pretty cool conference.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Well it sounds brilliant. So who's on the menu so
to speak?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, so pretty much there's a Kreme de la creme
of everyone. Is there doctor John Roach, who.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You spoke to just before the Yeah, what an interesting man.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Oh he's amazing, Prime Minister's chief Science advisor. We've got
Evangeli Vitalist, Deep Pity, Secretary Trade and Economic at m FAT.
There's the lunks of your Emma Pool and Tim Danjin
Young Farmers of the Year, Thomas McDonald who won the
Xander Award, Michael Every Love Michael Every from Rabobank, Todd McClay, Nicola,
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Greg basically more politicians, and you can shake his stick
at Clear Taylor who's one of the most delightful creatures
in agriculture. Nuffield Scholar, Hamish Mass specially agricultural trading Boy,
also Nuffield scholar, Peter Templeton, also Anuffield Scholar. And then
there's also a bunch of CEOs who are actually out
there dealing with different markets. So the lunks of Dan
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Bolton from silverfer and Farms, Todd Charteris from Rabobank, Nicola
Turkie Forest and Bird Caarina, Jordan Fish and Game, Mike
Casey of the Electric Tractor Fame. Also then, of course
the Galla Awards dinner sponsored by Silver Fern Farms. The
menu designed by Beef and Lamb New Zealand and Bess
Ambassador Chef Cameron David. So last year it was Cheaton Pagham.
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Jamie and I fell in love with Cheating and what
he presented to us. So the dinner alone is amazing.
It's on a see worth going to, so we would
love to see you there, Jamie and I will be
their early bird tickets close off to day. There's a
discount code for Federated Farmers members as well, so just
go to the FAD Farmer's website then click on the
events tab and all the information is up there.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Got to wrap it up shortly. But if you were
to say between now and then pick up a bit
of a sore throat and come up with sights a
day kind of aloys, you could still have the fee,
but I could fill in for you.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Because.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Honestly is a wonderful event. And so I will have
finished with the country on the Thursday before that, going
into Muttadiki, So looking forward to being back with Jamie
and back with everyone on those two days.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Definitely. I hope you ever signed somebody to make sure
that that continues.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
To and That's my favorite thing is that I actually
have the right of reply. He's doing the dinner in
the middle of it, and then I'm on the mic
all day the next day, and so any shots he
fires at me I can refute.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's wonderful, absolutely beautifully.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
You have done a great job.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's so cool to be here. Hopefully I'll get to
another chance at some stage to do it all again.
You go well at Pens. It sounds great. Ro Thanks
very much. This has been the Country for your Friday.
I'm Hamers MacKaye have a great King's Birthday? Would gain.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Where the rolls alla. Welcome better afterday and welcome into
the country. Hamish mckaye mc kay in for m A
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all the best on a pretty tough day for him,
friends and fun ol Anyway, we get on with the show.
(00:45):
We bring you the country and on a Friday, pretty
wet and a lot of parts of the country today.
I've even heard whispers of snow down, oh, Mark Olway,
so we're going to find out more about that. We're
going to kick straight into it with the farmer panel. Hey,
this is a great way to start here Friday. Get
(01:07):
some men of the land, you know, scanning and shearing
in all weather conditions, you know, tidying up heading into winter,
although I guess at this time of the year we
are pretty much into winter. Of course. Our farmer panel
is Stuo Low and stew A Duncan toos Jews gentlemen,
Good afternoon, Hey, yeah, good thank you will start with
(01:30):
you Stu Dunk and I hear there is a bit
of you know, the bit of the white stuff starting
to fluff around in there. And they never never regions
down near you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know, we've had a bit of a cold blast
go through and everyone was completely white about an hour
and a half ago. But the share has gone roll
through it into the white taking now and we've got beautiful,
clear blue sky and the snow is starting to retreat.
But the hawk things are one hundred percent white and
the top of the hill country is still pretty white.
So was cold just remind us and one is just
around the corner.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So that's just what happens.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, so get used.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
To it, Yeah, exactly. Stud you been trying to do
a bit of sharing and a bit of scanning. How
are you getting on?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, no, we had a sort of we're had frosty
starts in foggy days have not my fow ideal for
keeping sheep dry, but we got it done, got a
few done yesterday, and yeah, that southerly's just now. It's
dry at the moment, but it's cold here, so it's
obviously roaring up the country. So but yeah, she said
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it's twinter time and it's probably what we expect, but
hopefully get the scanning scan men and next week and
get a few figures and a few things sort of
out for the for the coming feed budgets and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Where's your place to you exactly?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
And we're about you now north of christ alias gaggles.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, and you still remain a good Glenn mark man.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yes. Yeah. The boy's been the had Oxford last night,
I think Stew's boy Mitch as he's playing and they
had a good wind last light of Oxford under the light,
so lar want to get away for the long weekend.
So that was been a good start rugby wise. So
hopefully the ridden Backs can do it tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, excellent Brumby's tonight. And of course at the business
end of the season. I don't know whether I should
mention the Highlanders to the other stew though. I mean
still we've got the Chiefs the chance to, you know,
at least put something on the table to end the season.
Stu Duncan.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, it's been a pretty amazing competition, hasn't it really,
But you know, the Wholders have not wanted to be
there for trying. They've been trying everything and they've got
pretty close at times, definitely, but that's a tough gig.
They're very young side, so you know in a couple
of years will be interest to see how they come
through it. And every team has a bit of a redevelopment,
don't they. And we saw that to sade As last year.
So no, it's been a pretty fierce competition, right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Our gentlemen. We'll talk about a bit more footy a
little bit later later on the show. We're going to
be talking to somebody who's very good in the world
of science and that is doctor John Rosho of course
is the MPI Chief of Sion Advisor among many other things,
and science and technology on the farm now, Stu, you
(04:07):
know as the as the mayor of weather Burn down there.
How important is your phone to you and everything you
do across your your work life, your social life, your
farming life, everything.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well it's become really important now if you can get
connectivity and we're probably I think you know you talked
about Omercaw before where it's the most central part of
New Zealand f on two coasts, and not always do
we get connectivity and cell phone reception, but you know,
whether you're using the resolution app or or you're checking
the meat schedule, or you're checking.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
The currency or your will prices.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Technology, the technology and the ability to use your phone
is all the time, and and you wear the forecast,
so you know, it is massively important. But it wasn't
that long ago we had party lines, and so we've
come a long way, and I guess the next twenty
years of here a pretty big step forward to and
and for some of those older ones or not that clever,
that does get challenging. But for the young ones they
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bounced it pretty well.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well Stu of course, the others stow Low, he's been
very challenged by his phone because he's lost it. How
are you coping? I mean, there's one thing where you
don't get a bit of connectivity and you know you
might have to you know, borrow the neighbors or something
to lose your phone. In this day and age, that's debilitating.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yes. Yeah, as you said before, we were sharing and
all sorts of things were about to happen, and you know,
I'm a phone actually got a crack and the screen
after being dropped several times obviously, and then then it
gave up the ghost. But either we fill it down
and I think you was able to put a new
screen on it this morning. We're back up and running.
So but yeah, you're absolutely shared without your phone and
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because you lose all your phone numbers and that sort
of thing when it doesn't work. But we still run
a landline here and but the hardy ever goes. My
mum brings me on that and my uncle and it's
probably probably about it. And then you get a few
scammers now and again, so here, yeah, at least with
with yourself when you can see who's ringing and if
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you know them, you answered, if if you don't, you
swipe it and carry on.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You still run a landline.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Hell yeah, yeah, I'm not sure for how much longer,
but I'm not here. Yeah, there's not not Minnie us
yeah and exte yet the cell phones don't always work
around here, so it's it's handy to have it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So yeah, ye stew from further south, you'd still have
a landline, win you because you're a little bit more
isolated than our north of christ Its stue low.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, we have to got landlines and not much for
sure how long they'll be around, but.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
To avoid a role.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But I think they're going to be cleaned out pretty soon.
So you know, sometimes you don't get any reception anywhere
around here, especially you know there are catably somewhat standing
on the line in the creek, or a digging might
go through any out of both.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Butler is stud you get a bit of a breakover
King's Birthday weekend or what's sort of happening on the
farm as you head into the into the you know,
into the business end in the into the winter.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The kids are coming home from all over the country
and the snow froll. We brought a few deer down,
so we'll just see what's happening. And now it's coming
from aukand so she's getting picked up now, so she'll
get a fright coming into the cold. But I was
hanging around and trying to do something over the weekend,
and it's about.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It really stockwise. What's happening. Are you getting a few away,
what's what's sort of wrapping up for house and gloating.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I've got a week few store lambs to go
next week just to tide out the CrossBridge and then
it gives them bit a room for the harp bridge
and take them through and shear them and we've got
a wall contract which is pretty good and give them
away hopefully a ten or ten plus schedule and then
we'll start killing them big bullets that they're on beating
out and all the rest of the cattle are on
crop and all the ues now pushed out in the
hill for a couple of weeks, a lot of feed
out there, and then we'll bring them in a start
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feeding them get ready for scanning. So we're sort of
really hunking into a bullsar. Last week was meant really well.
So the last of the bulls going away today, So
we're just tieding up loose ends really in and they'll
be about us.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, we'll still further up north scott is scanning to
do next week. How about in thirty seconds, gentlemen, given
this blake called Trump, and now these three judges have
sort of given him a bit of a saddy mind
his backside a bit, but you know he has a
rule unto himself. Have you had thirty seconds each, starting
with East, how would you how would you sum him up?
And your thoughts on him and the impact that he
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could have on us in our economy?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Uh? Well, we we obviously it's dawn on the world
that we produce high quality food in the States certainly
need our lean grinding beefs for their for the hamburger trade,
which is obviously huge, and on the scheme of things,
we're only a little pimple on the on the back
side of it and help and really in the world
trade things. But yeah, when when, when whatever ideas he's
(08:42):
got it effects, it will effect us. But at the moment,
everyone wants to red meat and products that we've got
in the in the dairy stuff. So things are looking
looking good if we can keep the quality and in
and that sort of thing going forward and keep promoting
(09:02):
the clean green image that we that we do.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, not very good. So you, Dagham, what are
you recking of them?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh well, he's not frightened to ask those hard questions.
And you know, you'd argue, in the last twenty years
of politics, we haven't been asking enough hard questions. And
he's trying in his own way, probably to bring peace.
And I know someone wanted to meet companies. Rush is
a big market for us, and you know he's not
getting on too well there. But you know, I think
he's just asked the questions he's bringing negotiation and he
wants America to be better and brighter. Whether he gets that,
(09:31):
I don't know, but the markets have settled down after
his tariffs, and I mean, all we want, really New
Zealand is a steady, steady market to export into. And
those markets open up, and we have our dollars saying
around the fifty six to fifty eight cents, and the
US dollar strengthens when we go into America and Australia,
and Australia look at their beef schedule and their lamb
shuedele if we can just follow on behind that and
(09:52):
we export a lot into Canada and into America, into Europe.
I think we know he's just brought a few debates
to the table we might not like, but he seems
to be able to say what he wants. Every One
gathers around so they say it pans out, but at
the moment it's all good, so we'll just hope it
stays that way.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right. They're going to wrap it up very quickly with
some footy, and I know that your hearts won't be broken.
But if the Blues get home over the wire, tars
Maana Pacific, I have to beat the Hurricanes. Now I
reckon that they you know, like it was a bit
of the baby out with the bathwater against the Chiefs
last week from from Tanna's team. But they can they
beat this hurricane sider and knock the Blues out and
and and be in the top Sex What a story.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, well, yeah, it'll be. The Hurricanes are sort of
having heaving form at the right time of the year.
So even though they're coming off a buy, I think
are they I think I think the Hurricanes will do it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, okay, and the Blues might just sneak in there
and they just might be the sleeper in there, the
banana skin, so they say, hey, gentlemen, got to wrap
it up there, thank you very much. That is our
our farmer panel, the men of the le and of
course from down there Winnabourn Way, stew Duncan, stew Loom
from North Canterbury. Fantastic to talk to those two and
(11:09):
very eloquent. That's stud Loo and so is stew Duncan.
Great stuff. This is the country, Ah, yes, this is
the country. Hamish MacKaye m c ka y in for
Jamie mckaye. You may ce ka y. Great to have
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your company on a Friday as we headed the King's
Birthday long weekend. Right, we're now looking at, of course
the well he's the MPI Chief Science Advisor, Prime Minister's
Chief Science Advisor and Deputy Chairman of the Prime Minister's News,
Science and Technology Council, and it is doctor John Roach.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
John, how are you so fantastic, Hamish?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Great to be here, Great to have you here with us.
You were recently a p What did the Prime Minister's
cheat Science Advisor? Congratulations on that?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
What what do you?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What are you and the board aiming to do and
and hope for you to achieve in this role?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Thanks Amish, and look at Kim has a bit of
a surprise to me and a huge honor. But what
we're what we're the Advisory Council and myself included are
looking to do is it sets some strong priorities and
some strong guidelines for the science community. And what are
the priorities going forward for research investment in the zill Okay?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So so what we we what you know, I guess
what are a couple of key things that you'd really
like to nail early on?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Well early on obviously we're going through a science physical
structure reform in terms of taking the cris and putting
into amalgamating them into public research organizations and and that's
a big piece of work that's that's ongoing, and I'm
very very keen to get involved and make sure that
we lend that is as effectively as we can. We're
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all of you know, the people actually coming out the
other end looking forward to their science careers. So that's
an important part of it. And then in the next month,
the Science and Technology and Innovation Advisory Council will get
together just to meet each other. Some of us know
each other already, but we don't know each other as
a group, and that will be a good opportunity to
(13:20):
look over terms of reference, make sure we're all on
the same page in terms of what that means, and
then step forward into a pretty healthy work program over
the next six months.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Look, in this fast changing world, those who are not
taking we're not seeing the importance and relevance of sciences
in our country and the world. That's shooting themselves in
the foot, aren't they. I mean, because we just got
to move.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, Well, generally people that don't take science seriously don't
understand that most of the things they do on a
day of day basis have in some way been underpinned
by science and the technology that's derived from it. So
and look, that's fine. You know, we all go about
our busy lives taking things for but you're absolutely right.
Fast past world climate is changing rapidly. There's a lot
(14:07):
of opportunities for New Zealand to take advantage of and
they will be underpinned by research, science and innovation.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Sticking with science, you've expanded the Science for Farmer's program
and it's presence that she is a field ice. Tell
us more about that.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Oh, look, it's exciting. So up till very recently, I
was the director of the Entrance Support Team as MPI
and farmers around the country had made it really clear
to me that they felt disengaged from the science system.
You know, the reforms of the nineties had taken away
the advisor that sat between the scientists and the farmer
and the two way conversation that tended to happen. And
(14:44):
so last year we took on the initiative of setting
up a large standard mystry Creek brought a number of
private and public sector scientists into that to talk about
the science they were doing and answer farmers questions and
it was a huge success. So we actually took that
on the road, went to the four regional fielders this
year and again had great interactions with farmers, just great conversations.
(15:08):
So we decided to do it again and do it
bigger and better. And so we're on a site, different site,
just up from where we were, but in a better location,
right beside the Village green straight out of the pavilion,
and you know, it's a big site covering farm profitability
and productivity, covering aspects of farming that we need to
(15:30):
consider into the next thirty years as the climate changes
and made aspects of what we do just a little
bit more difficult. All of the investments that are going
into greenhouse gas mitigations by the New Zealand Agricultural Greenhouse
Gas Research Center and by AGRA zero, they'll be there
on site as well. We have a section on genetic technologies,
so LIC and I Research will be we'll be leading
(15:52):
the conversations on how using modern genetic technologies is accelerating
our genetic improvement in animals and then the potential for
gene editing to advance our our agricultural sector. And then
finally it's almost the piece to resistance. Actually, we have
(16:12):
a section on freshwater quality and darien zed and nacy
and others. You know, we're going to have We're going
to have constructive wetlands there that will low us to
have really good conversations with farmers that are interested in that.
We will be talking about detension bonds and bioreactors and
and other mitigations that farmers can could put in place
to you know, achieve what they wanted. They want to
(16:33):
achieve for their fresh.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Water and they do want to achieve. I think that's
so you know, it's such you know, so many there's
so much murky water when it comes to the reporting
of what what farmers want to achieve and how much
they care and how much they want to do. And
you mentioned the word disengagement. I mean, that's such a
dangerous path to go down. It's so great to hear
from you that these farmers are now coming to the
likes of the field days and actually offering it up
(16:58):
on stuff that I'm sure is very constructive for mule perspective.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Absolutely. Look, you use the nail on the head I
get to meet the farmers that doesn't want to leave
the environment in the better state than here. She received this,
and we've got a we've got a few farmer panels. Actually,
we've got it. We've got as well as having all
of these scientists on site, we have wall to wall
panels for people to come and listen to, and a
couple of those panels are farmers coming along to talking
(17:22):
about key aspects of their business that they've managed to nail.
So it's very very difficult to be the best at everything,
but every farmer is the best at something. And so
what we've done is we've put picked a couple of
key topics there and picked farmers that are really proven
in achieving industry goals in those areas, and they're going
to come along and tell us how they've done it.
(17:43):
And that's a really exciting part of the of the forum.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Doctor John Rush, thank you very much for joining us
here on the country.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Thanks Demis.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
We got the MBI Chief Signs Advisor, Brian medisa's Chief
Signs Advisor, Doctor John Rusch. There coming up in a
Corcoran and senior analysts animal Protein with Rabobank. And before
we go to a break. I just can't get over
the sympathy that was in the voices of Stu Loo
and Stu Duncan for the Blues Rugby Teeth.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
This is the Country, Climb up in Love, setin Top Politicians,
Live Empire.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Out of Politics, one the Country Harmless mckaye in for
Jbie McKay on your Friday. I hope you're having a
good day where you are, whatever you might be doing.
Just want to quick shout out to the members of
the New Zealand Rugby wore up in Gisbon. Probably about
now we'll be watching Gisban Boys playing Napier Boys in
a Super eight forty match there and of course the
thing tomorrow. I think they head across to Rotoria, East
(18:42):
Coast Poverty Bay. So good on you, seel of rugby
for getting out in amongst the provinces. Of course, somebody
who doesn't a fantastic job out amongst the provinces. Senior
analyst Animal Protein for Rabobank, Jen Corcoran joins us. Now,
Killy Jen, how are you? I'm good? Thank you? How
are you doing?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Not too bad, but of fun coming in and filling
in for the old namesake. The senior Makai by quite
a number of years actually, to be fair, Jean, but
he does. We once had a shearing competition a few
years back, and to be fair, he cleaned me up.
So you know, we but hey, hey, you know that's
how it goes. And has Lot got off the boat
and learned how to spell their name properly in mind
dropped the A from the NAC so, you know, look
(19:22):
to regret that ever since. Right, we've got the Q
two Beef quarterly report that's coming out shortly.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
A bit of a preview today, so this report will
be out next week. So yeah, the quarter two Beef
Quarterly from the Rubbery Research team. So this is a
global report and yeah, i'd say this is a pretty
good mid twenty twenty five snapshot of what's gone on
and what we think is going to go on in
those global beef markets throughout the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Okay, so tell us about the global outlook when it
comes to production and supply.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah, so global production is about to sort of hear
into a bit of a declient. So what we've seen
and we've got the data global across that first quarter,
so essentially from January through to the end of March,
and there's also a bit of April discussion within the report.
But what we've seen actually over that period is a
modest year on year increase in terms of that globe
(20:12):
will supply of beef, so pretty steady year on year.
But the prediction now looking across broadly of all the
countries that we cover here, and that's everywhere that Rubber
Research sets around the globe, so all the big beef
production regions, we're expecting to see a contraction by about
two percent for the rest.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
With that demand's piece, you know, the number of people
still wanting to buy a net meat, red meat and
beef in particular still really strong, so that you know,
contraction of supply with really strong demand is leading to
some record breaking prices and we've seen that here in
New Zealand and all some places like Europe. In the
US we're seeing sort of record high beef prices at
the moment. So it's an interesting outlook really going ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Hamos, Yes, certainly is. I mean, there's always you know,
is somebody who mixes his time between urban and rural.
There's been plenty of those who want to knock the
old red meat off, but it keeps bouncing back, doesn't it.
You know that increased demand and desirability is still there globally.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Yeah, and it's a versatile protein, right, beef. There's a
lot we can do with it. People know how to
cook it, and we've see huge demand from the States,
which we've talked about a lot this year and it's
well reported around the media right with the United States
heard rebuild and the demand for lentrom, which ourselves in
Australia are very good at sending to them. So that
demand piece is really being seen here in terms of
(21:32):
some great pricing and a law of products still heading
over to the state.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Okay, we're talking with Gen Corkran's senior analyst animal Protein, Rabobank,
Harris McKay. And for Jamie McKay, the Trump tariffs, she's
having fun with a few judges or three judges or
something at the moment, has he, mister Trump. But all
the uncertainty and unpredictability in global markets that that has
caused in recent months, including in the global beef market.
(21:57):
What's the likely impact of these tariffs for for New
Zealand Australia And actually where do you see them sitting
and will they happen. I mean it's a it's a yeah,
talk about an open book.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah, And it's hard to keep up with at the moment,
isn't it. And of course based the big one that
we're watching here because this is where we've seen, you know,
there is where we see a lot of value coming
back from New Zealand and that values up hugely this
year and we're still seeing that now. But the Trump
tariff suddenly have created someone certainty in terms of what
we might expect to see for the rest of the year.
But broadly, the good news is that we're currently facing
(22:29):
that ten percent regardless of what happens. You know, it's
currently facing that ten percent baseline tariff, the same as
pretty much all the other main beef production regions that
are sending into the United States. So we're on a
level playing field. That's a good news story for New
Zealand and the same for Australia. Now for the real
watching point, I think for US really lies in those
US China relations and what this trade will might mean
(22:52):
there because we you know, we're a pretty good spot.
We're shielded somewhat given that we know that they're you know,
the demand from the US is going to be really
strong for that lantram and we're going to fill that
critical supply get quite easily from this side. But you know,
whatever fallout we might see between the States and China
and some of the other Asian countries could even you know,
(23:12):
potentially be good for us too. But a watching point,
I think in terms of all those puzzle pieces being
up in the air with global trade at the moment
and just where they're all going to land over the
next six months. So we'll continue to watch that and
there's certainly some turbulence, but we're in an okay spot
and we're sittingly on a level playing field with everyone else.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
So that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Great to know, great to know. Thank you very much.
That as Jen Corkoran, Senior Analyst, Animal Protein. With Rabobank
coming up next, it's pull out the old chainsaw time.
The Steel Chainsaw give away winner will be announced next
here Hamus McKay and for Jamie McKay's.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Popular Less.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Keyser.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
So we've got some pretty exciting news coming up around
the Steel Timber Sports Team announcement that's very shortly but
right now, a bit of winning We love a bit
of winning right here on the country, and of course
it is tied to announced the last one of the
stool comp we've got t here this of course, well
they'll receive a Still MS one, a two chainsaw and
(24:22):
a Still safety pack together worth around about that eight
hundred and eight hundred dollars a fantastic now. Yesterday's question
was name only three product categories where Still can provide
a battery powered tool option. Well, among the answers you
could have given chainsaws, backpack, spray as line, drimers, law mowers.
(24:45):
The list is endless. For that that Still MS one
a two chainsaw and Still safety pack eight hundred dollars
worth and the winner, I'll give myself a bit of
a drum roll here and Leon Oliver Leon Oliver can
Gradu from the Mighty hawks Bay the winner of the
Still MS one a two chainsaw and Still safety pack.
(25:08):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
The country's world news with Cod Cadet, New Zealand's leading
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Speaker 7 (25:20):
And in rural news.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Yes, big announcement, Hamish and I think this is one
of your favorite events. And I think Andy producer Andy
and Auckland has become slight slightly obsessed with timber sports
as well. I hear so naming of the New Zealand
Steel Timber Sports team and in the team is Jack
Jordan from the King Country in the underhand cleveland cherry
from the wire Cattle and the standing bloc, Quentin Forced
(25:42):
it from the Wira Rapper and the single buck and
Chris Lord from the wire cattle and the stocks saw.
Now Jack Jordan will also represent New Zealand and the
individual still Timber Sports World Championship. He's won that trophy
quite a few times I think I think this was
three times last year at that World Championships. And another
fun fact, Quentin Force it is actually from generation of
(26:03):
wood choppers hamish Ah.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Look I tell you what the Forcet family from the
wire Rapper and of course his grandfather was Edie Forcet
who and they have two atarhi axes and saws. Now,
if you're like you know what you know when you
think of the best whiskey or the best men's tweed
jacket or something, all the best men's axe or saws,
it's a two e tahi from the Forcet family in
(26:27):
the Wider Rapper. There you go.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Excellent and good luck to that team. I think it
was the first time. They're all hearing that as well today.
So congratulations to that team that's been selected. They're heading
to Milan and Italy. What a great place to go.
I wish I was going to maybe I'll take up
axe chopping.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Michelle, why aren't you there? I mean, I mean, I
think I think you'd be a wonderful addition to that team.
I mean, you got Jack Jordan, I mean, the bloke
is a dead set beast. Cleveland Cherry and the standing block.
I mean, you've got to have beautiful balance, crentin Force.
It is not a big person. But che can he
saw and Chris Laud the other one as well. The
starf I love it, I love I love the Timber
(27:03):
Sports fantastic great staff.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think we've got more sports news there.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And are you on the other.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Side, Sport were the nathco Kiwi to the bone since
nineteen oh four?
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Yes, thanks Michelle and and Sport the black Caps they
appear set to get a new coach, Gary Steed's almost
seven year Ragners mental to the new Zealand men's cricket team.
It's understood that the sticking point was Steed's desire to
only coach the red bull side, handing over the reins
on the one day and t twenty setup. The final
candidates for the overall coaching job are former fast bowler
(27:36):
Shane Bond and recent South African white ball coach Rob Walter.
And Argentine Court has declared a mistrial in the case
of seven health professionals accused of negligence and the death
of football great Diego Maradona in twenty twenty. The entire
case will be reheard and a quick update. In the NBA,
New York lead Indiana forty to thirty two in Game
(27:59):
five of the Eastern Conference Finals. If Indiana win this,
they will go on to face the Oklahoma City Thunder
in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Lost. I lost interest when the Celtics went out. It
broke my heart. I really thought they were going to do.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
The reat you poor man with eighteen titles to your name, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Gary Stid is surprised by that.
I would have thought that that would be a good so.
I mean, the amount of time they have to spend
on the road.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
That's you know, I am quite surprised by that. Oh
I'm not surprised by Gary Steed opting to leave. But
he's our greatest ever black Caps cricket coach, so it's
a huge, huge hole to fill there, and obviously I'd
love to keep him on as a test coach, but
they want all three and to be honest, they might
not have the money to pay for different coaches across
different formats.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
There you go, righty. Coming up, we're going to hear
from our man Chris Bandolino. Mister Brandolino, the Knee were
principal scientists, our weather guy on a Friday right here
on the country. And later on I'm gonna be talking
to the one on ony road. Looking forward to that
coming out.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
He headed to the dam.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
We all in doing.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I'm leaving gas and if you aren't boat Keela,
I'm pretty senior readers, I have no reason this the
country time now to be joined by weather guy on
Friday gives us all the great information. Chris, Brenda, Lena,
How are you, Chris.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
Coda, I'm well, how are you Hamish?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, very well, thank you. I've enjoyed the sound of
my own voice a bit much this hour, so I'm
gonna have to get your cracking through. What's what's the
outlook all the way again? What do we what can
we expect?
Speaker 10 (29:42):
I think generally speaking it'll be good, not everywhere, thank
eastern parts of the both islands. So if you're listening
from eastern Bay of plenty Gisbon, particularly Hawk's Bay, Eastern
Water Rappo, also Canterbury, uh looking pretty good. That's where
dry weather is most likely to persist. It is going
to be windy weekend. I think the wind will grab
(30:03):
weather headlines for much of well, certainly tomorrow and Saturday,
So like Dunedin will be quite windy on Saturday, especially
out in the peninsula and also toward coastal Southland and
over the high country, wider Rappa, Ontior Hawks Bay, over
the Range's usual suspects, and that wind will persist into Sunday,
(30:23):
but easing just a little bit. So the wind strongest
tomorrow but getting better with time and temperature is really
not that bad. It's chilly weather tomorrow, so if you're
in Southland, if you're in tagots and Otago tomorrow it
will be chili especially with the wind and it will
be showers of rain and snow to about one thousand
meters or so.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, we're talking to Stude Darnkin from being the Windowbourn
area early on Marca down round there, but a snow
there is that we've seen what we're going to see
of that.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
No, look, our winter outlook we just released it last yesterday,
I should say, I beg your pardon, and the winter
outlook is that it's going to be a warmer than
average winter. That's what we're expecting.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Now.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
Yes, there'll be cold snaps and frost Hamish, but it's
expected will be probably less of those in what is typical.
So a warmer than average lean for the winter season
and rainfall is probably going to be a wetter than
the usual winter for the upper half of the of
the North Island. So why couto North ond in Auckland
likely to see odds for a wetter, wetter than usual winter,
(31:20):
and that wetter than usual conditions could happen other parts
of the country. It's just a bit unsure. I think
Canterbury gets a normal winter in terms of rainfall. But look,
it doesn't mean that rainfall is a lumpey. You go
through dry spells and wet spells, and when it all
comes out at the end of the day, end of
the in the wash. We think near normal for the
eastern part of the South Island, but other parts of
the country will tilt wet, especially the upper part of
(31:43):
the North Island.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
There we go, Chris Brandling. Now you a man of
quality over quantity. Thank you very much, much appreciated.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
All right, my friend.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The food Day's Blue Mill like a jump you.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Cold beer on Friday night, a pair of jeans and fits.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm so going to have to get a Friday playlist. Roe.
Did you put this together?
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I did?
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I did?
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Yeah, help Sandy out.
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Speaker 5 (32:48):
Row.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, let's get a bit of a chat before we
wrap the show up here. The PINS conference coming up
in christ Church.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
Yeah, twenty fourth and twenty five fifth of Joan to
Pie in christ Church. So I'm going to be the
MC during the day both days. I mean, Jamie's gonna
MC the evening the gala dinner, so he'll be there
in his penguin suits.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
A penguin suit. Well he does, he does. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
So the focus this year is going for growth, working
together to turbocharge the primary sector because it's obviously been
a little bit challenging this year with the tariffs and
everything going on and stuff. So I love this conference.
I attended at once, was lucky enough to MC it
last year, which was my second time. And it's the
people in the room, you know, and it's the chance
to get like farmers to global strategists, politicians, just getting
(33:36):
everyone together and focused on shaping the future. It's a
pretty cool conference.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Well it sounds brilliant. So who's on the menu so
to speak?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, so pretty much there's a Kreme de la creme
of everyone. Is there doctor John Roach, who.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You spoke to just before the Yeah, what an interesting man.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Oh he's amazing, Prime Minister's chief Science advisor. We've got
Evangeli Vitalist, Deep Pity, Secretary Trade and Economic at m FAT.
There's the lunks of your Emma Pool and Tim Danjin
Young Farmers of the Year, Thomas McDonald who won the
Xander Award, Michael Every Love Michael Every from Rabobank, Todd McClay, Nicola,
(34:12):
Greg basically more politicians, and you can shake his stick
at Clear Taylor who's one of the most delightful creatures
in agriculture. Nuffield Scholar, Hamish Mass specially agricultural trading Boy,
also Nuffield scholar, Peter Templeton, also Anuffield Scholar. And then
there's also a bunch of CEOs who are actually out
there dealing with different markets. So the lunks of Dan
(34:32):
Bolton from silverfer and Farms, Todd Charteris from Rabobank, Nicola
Turkie Forest and Bird Caarina, Jordan Fish and Game, Mike
Casey of the Electric Tractor Fame. Also then, of course
the Galla Awards dinner sponsored by Silver Fern Farms. The
menu designed by Beef and Lamb New Zealand and Bess
Ambassador Chef Cameron David. So last year it was Cheaton Pagham.
(34:53):
Jamie and I fell in love with Cheating and what
he presented to us. So the dinner alone is amazing.
It's on a see worth going to, so we would
love to see you there, Jamie and I will be
their early bird tickets close off to day. There's a
discount code for Federated Farmers members as well, so just
go to the FAD Farmer's website then click on the
events tab and all the information is up there.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Got to wrap it up shortly. But if you were
to say between now and then pick up a bit
of a sore throat and come up with sights a
day kind of aloys, you could still have the fee,
but I could fill in for you.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Because.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Honestly is a wonderful event. And so I will have
finished with the country on the Thursday before that, going
into Muttadiki, So looking forward to being back with Jamie
and back with everyone on those two days.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Definitely. I hope you ever signed somebody to make sure
that that continues.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
To and That's my favorite thing is that I actually
have the right of reply. He's doing the dinner in
the middle of it, and then I'm on the mic
all day the next day, and so any shots he
fires at me I can refute.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's wonderful, absolutely beautifully.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
You have done a great job.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's so cool to be here. Hopefully I'll get to
another chance at some stage to do it all again.
You go well at Pens. It sounds great. Ro Thanks
very much. This has been the Country for your Friday.
I'm Hamers MacKaye have a great King's Birthday? Would gain.
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