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November 14, 2024 37 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Sir David Carter, Kate Acland, Stu Duncan and Duncan Humm, Craig Wiggins, Phoebe Nicholls and Ben Trevelyan, Barry Soper, and Rowena Duncum. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch you're the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, you're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Gay New Zealand and welcome to the Country.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Coming to you from the one hundred and sixty first
christ Church AMP Show. Lots of people here today. It's windy,
it's coolish, but no sign of rain, so that's good,
really good. Hey, we were going to have a bit
of a coup to kick off the show today because
Sir David Carter I ran into him a weebit earlier
in the morning and he said, who do you want

(00:48):
to chat to? There's a few nats coming around and
I said, what about Jerry Brownlee? That one of the
local MP's And Sir David Carter, thank you very much
for kicking off the show with us today. We've got
Kate Aklin also from Beef and Lamb, New Zealand, and
just a tack. But you promised me Jerry Browne, which
would have been a coupe for me, but you didn't deliver. No.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
That just shows you how much influence I've now got.
So I know my place A humble Banks Peninsula farmer
Jerry decided not to do any media.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Okay, you were the Speaker of the House from twenty
thirteen to twenty seventeen, what would you have done in
the same situation that he faced yesterday afternoon? Because it
was shameful.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was shameful. I've never seen anything like it. I
got home to watch the news last night and it
was disgusting, frankly, and it's our democracy that it will
be known around the world for this sort of behavior.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, the rest of the world's laughing at us at
the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
And justifiably we used to have a wonderfully functioning democracy.
You asked me what I would have done differently, Probably
not much. Jerry's in a difficult position. He's got to
deal with the stuff. He didn't know it was going
to happen. I don't think there's any doubt that it
was completely orchestrated, and I suspect Labor knew that it
was going to happen. The only difference I would have
made with you, I would have named the three members

(02:02):
of Parliament rather than just one.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, what does naming actually do to you?

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Though?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Other I mean, you get suspended for a day, you
lose a day's pay. But what are the other punishments
for being known?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well, that's the main one. It's not a badge of honor.
It's quite the opposite. If that particular person then is
named again in the session of Parliament the boundaries extend.
Then I've forgotten the exact details, but she may then
be out of Parliament for one week, and if she
was to do it for a third time in that session,
I think she's out for a month with loss of pay.
Where it's important if there's a close vote, that vote

(02:34):
has lost during the time that person's expelled for parliament.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
What happened to the dignity and protocol of parliament? I'm
even talking about the dress code. And once again to
party Maori Roweri ytt in there with the cowboy hat on,
I mean, how come that wasn't stamped out earlier?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, I agree with you, mister Mallard took over from
me when I reliquiously in my mind, one mistake that
was made as the gentlemen to come up without a tie.
This is the highest court in the land. I think
the least you can do is dress appropriately to come
into Parliament. You are representing your constituents. It doesn't take

(03:12):
much to dress properly and putt aker shirt and tie
and the jacket on. So Mallard allowed these standards to drop.
I think if I'd been reappointed Speaker after that, I
may well have tied it up the dress code, because
that's symbolic to the behavior you're then going to get
from some members of Parliament.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
One man who always leads the charge when it comes
to dress code because he's an immaculate DApp addressing. You
know who I'm talking about here, Winston Peters. Now you
had your moments with Winston over the years in Parliament.
Who was the most unruly MP or MP that you
had to deal with? Well?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Probably Winston was asked to leave on a number of occasions,
but he always did so respecting the dignity of Parliament.
He accepted the role that Speaker has in trying to
set the son of the tone of behavior. No, it
wasn't an easy one to deal with. He was kicked
out a few times too, I recall.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, let's move on from that shambles in the house
yesterday to what's happening here in christ Church today. We're
going to go to the Addington Raceway which is just
around the corner from here. Shortly Craig Wiggy Wiggins's clerk
of the course. So I mean that's very much part
of cup and Show week, isn't it at the show
And then of course you've got the racing boats that
both at Rickitton and Addington.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
And that's what got me involved more recently is the
show week in Canterbury is absolutely iconic and you cannot
have show week if you haven't got a show. So
the previous board had made a decision that it was
too difficult to run a show. I did not agree
with that. I said I'd step in. I'm now chair
of the board. We've got a wonderful team right around us.
This all happened on the twelfth of August, which I

(04:45):
think if you work it out, it's ninety five days.
We've managed to put the show on and I think
it's a credit to everybody's been involved. We've had support
from town people, we've had support from sponsors, wonderful team
of trade exhibitors here and the livestock numbers are incredibly high.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, and it will wash its face financially.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It will wash it so financially we'll end up this
calendar year in a financially sound position, so that is
a huge achievement. The focus then moved to show twenty
five and beyond.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Okay, So David Carter, thanks as always, even though you
didn't disappoint slightly not getting the big Jerry brownly and
it would have been good for my ratings.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Let's see what I can do next time.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, good on you, sir, David Carter. Just we're going
to go straight to our next guest. We'll just chuck
the cans on her, and that is Kate Ackland. Of course. Oh,
David Carter is going to stay and listen to what
Kate has to say. Kate, you're a Cantabrian born and bred.
How many of these shows have you been to over
the years. Oh you're not sorry, no, I'm a Taranaka girl,

(05:41):
but sorry. We're married an Ackland family, famous Canterbury farming family.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
So I'm probably this will be at least shown number
twenty So I'm so pleased that it's on. It's fantastic.
I think David and the rest of his crew have
done a fabulous job.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, so what's your role here today? As I was
going to say Chairman, President, President, auntie. What do I
call you? Chairman or President Beef and Lamb New Zealand?
Cheer cheer, Sorry, I'm getting confused with presidents and prime
ministers and chairs. So you're the chair of Beef and
Lamb New Zealand. Do you have any official role here today?

Speaker 6 (06:14):
No, I'm just here. Today's supporting and having a good
look around and hopefully not losing too many children.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
How many have you got in toe with you today?

Speaker 6 (06:21):
I've got three and I've managed to get rid of
them for an hour. I gave the twenty dollars each
and said see you in And how.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Does toenty bucks last them in now these days?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Well it needs to?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, fair enough. So what's happening out on the farms
of New Zealand at the moment. It's been tough times.
We know that for especially sheep farmers. Beef's ticking along
quite nicely, to be honest, but we are seeing signs
of improvement for the sheep farmers and they need it.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah, Look, we're seeing, we're seeing. We keep talking about
green sheets and I think farmers get quite frustrated about that,
but you know, we are genuinely seeing improvement. We've got
increased amarmed and a lot of our overseas markets. You know,
China's got a stimulus packet stimulus program about to kick off.
So look, there are some really positive signs out there
in market. Sheep will take longer than beef, but you know,

(07:06):
I think it's heading in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Are you worried about the Trump tariff thing or as well?
The counter argument to that is that they're so keen
on our beef anyhow for their burghers that they're going
to pay whatever it takes to get us.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Look, I think any threat or risk of tariffs is
a concern. I mean, the US is our biggest market
for both sheep and beef.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
We know that.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
So the Burger one is interesting. You know, they take
our lean beef, they add it to their high fat
beef and it actually raises the value of their domestic product.
So I think any tariff would actually hurt US farmers
as well as New Zealand farmers. So look, I think
right now the government's approach of just wait and see
and make sure we're building those strong relationships is absolutely

(07:47):
the way to go.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Hey, I'm looking at a bit of green grass across
the road from we were broadcasting here at the Addington Showgrounds,
and the grass looks pretty green to me. You've obviously
had some rain here in recent times, not too bad.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
We're getting rain in the hills at the moment, which
we need. That northwest has started to bite. But this
is not a typical Canterbury showdown. Normally it's sort of
thirty degrees and hot, blustering norwest. So this cool weather's
actually a bit welcome.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, it's actually quite nice for what for the people
wandering around? It's certainly not cold. It's just nice show weather,
isn't it. It sure is. Yeah. Hey, Kate Aklan, thank
you very much for your time, Thanks for taking some
of your time out and well you enjoy the rest
of your hour free, is it? Are you free to
one o'clock to the You've got to get the kids
back stretch it exactly. There we go, Kate Aklin there

(08:34):
a chair of Beef and Land, New Zealand, one of
the many sort of farming celebrity type people that are here.
It is sixteen after twelve. You're with the country. Oh,
I've got paper flying everywhere here at the moment. We're
up here today or one of the reasons we're up
here today is to do a bit of a promo
with the people from Toyota and they've got the new
high Luck hybrid that I'm driving around and they've got

(08:56):
a big three and a half ton trailer. We'll put
some photos of it up on our social media channels
and it's a really cool activation and we're going to
have some fun with that. This afternoon we will chat
to Phoebe Nichols, who's the marketing manager from Hilux out
of Parmister North, although she's down here today. We'll also

(09:17):
talk to our Farmer panel. We've got two Duncans today,
Stu Duncan and Duncan hum Craig Wiggy Wiggins is over
the road at the Addington Raceway. Barry Soper on that
shameful day in New Zealand politics yesterday, and Chris Brandolino
on the weather. All that to come before one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
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Speaker 3 (09:55):
Okay, welcome back to the country. Brought to you by Brent.
We're up here with Toyota. More about that a week
bit later in the hour, but it's the Farmer panel
today and I've got two Duncans, Stu Duncan and Duncan Hum.
One's a Christian name and one's a surname. We'll start
with the surname Stu Duncan. You're up here for the races.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
Yeah, well, we had a horse race on Wednesday and
my sister's got a couple running, so we thought we'd
just pack up and had to cross Church for three
or four days do the show and the races. And
but to my oldest boys and the Boar Breeders Association.
So you had a look at that competition yesterday and
he's like his boar won the prize for the biggest testicle.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
So it's a good day out either Bore Breeders Association
or whatever they call themselves.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Don't they Yeah, and they had the ball last night,
but we haven't seen too many since then, so it's
a pretty pretty big, pretty event for them really.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
So well, you you sent me a text. I think
it was on Wednesday or Tuesday, Race number six, horse four.
It's obviously your one. Luckily I didn't put it on.
You didn't you're out of the money.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
Yeah, Well he went open this last week and he's
against the big horses, just got a bit far back,
but we had high.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Hopes for him.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
But ration is a funny game.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
You're off to Rickitton tomorrow. You brought your raincoat with you.

Speaker 8 (11:06):
Hopefully I'm good, understand somewhere hiding the corner out of
the rain. I'm not very good in the rain. So yeah,
hopefully we're out of the rain.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, you're in christ Church today, well this week for
cup and show week. Of course you're farming in the
many a toto typically summer dry or starting to dry
out at this time of the year. How are you
guys fearing?

Speaker 8 (11:26):
Yeah, we're just we had a frost last week and
I think we're getting rain this week where we need
a weave in a rain, but we're pretty good. That
one hundred meals took a heap of lambs out, but
it gave us a lot of moisture. So we're just
growing grass and we'll get back this next week and
make a bit of bailage and fodder. Beats all been signed.
The crops look good. The looser and looks good. So yeah,
it's been a tough year, but we're growing grass.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Which is what we talked to Kate Ackland, from the
chair of Beef and Lamb New Zealand, about the prospects
for sheep farming or lamb prices in particular. We'll talk
venison in a moment with Duncan Hum. But what do
you reckon your lambs are going to be worth this year,
stew A bit more than last year?

Speaker 8 (12:03):
Yeah, I know, we're still killing hoggins now, we're just
going to round the last of our hoggits and they're
around eight dollar mark. So I think it's going to
be very hard for the meat companies to pull it back.
They might bring it back fifty cents or a dollar
might get the seven's, but you need everything at the moment.
It's pretty tough, so especially she even and I know
down our corner there's been massive losses, so guys are
gonna have to really watch your budgets and try to
stretch a bit of it out so anything will help.

(12:25):
And we're hearing big numbers of lambs nodding around. They
weren't in it scanning. In our situation. We're really dry
in the autumn, so it's just a year to get
out of the way.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
So all right, stew Hey, thank you. If you've got
a tip for us. No I haven't. Oh that's good
because I've wasted enough money already in christ Church. My god,
they charge an arm and a leg for the Emerson's
up here. It's not fair. Yeah, No, I have got
a present for you, Stew. So here's the Heartland chips. See,
I'm a bear and I'm a purveyor of chips and
bear and you. And there's three flavors there. There's the

(12:55):
salt and vineg of the maple bacon or the green
onngon and you get first pick ahead of dunk and
so which I'll go to st Vinegar? Actually all right,
you've got the salt and vinegar. You take those and
you chuck the headset on. Duncan. Hum there, who's come
from mid Canterbury to chat to us today? We've been
talking about lambs here to give them that, Stew, let's
talk a wee bit of venison. So Duncan, good afternoon,

(13:16):
thanks for being part of our farmer panel today. So
you're down to a choice of two now, green onion
or maple bacon.

Speaker 9 (13:23):
Shnews already hooks out in the Sultan vinegars.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh you've already got the st that they are quite popular,
all right. So how's you're a deer farmer at mid Canterbury? Largely?
I know you've got your fingers and other pies like
the New Zealand Farming facebook page. How's deer farming? What
are the returns for venison like at the moment?

Speaker 9 (13:39):
Well, I don't have to give you the weather reports.
I can literally see the aplan's place from mine. So
venison has to be cranking along this last month or so.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, we just got to weep it a win there. Sorry.

Speaker 9 (13:51):
The yeah, deer as cranking along this last couple of months,
so the wait gains through the roof and packing them
up off. I've got a lot going on Sunday. That
about a month of heads, So pretty happy with that.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
So you'll have just finished fawning or are you still
just starting?

Speaker 9 (14:08):
Just saw the firstborn a couple of days ago, So.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, see, you dear farmers have got got it round
the right way, having, you know, giving birth on the
warmer months, the poor old sheep farmers with you August
and September landings.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
It can be, but it seems a bit tough to
you having all that all that hard work and when
it's snowing and cold and the pawning. We just sit
back and let them do their things. So it's cuite easy.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Are you here in any official capacity yourself today?

Speaker 9 (14:34):
No, just you asked me to come up, and then
my head tractor driver she's up here with me today
as well.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So if you want to hit all the hit all
the rides. So this is your daughter, yes, my daughter?
How old, zilah? She doesn't look old enough to drive.

Speaker 9 (14:48):
And she's probably, hate to say that, more capable than
her mother and a tractor actually, so.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
She you're a brave man, of course these days driving tractors.
As I found to my own peril when I tried
startup one a couple of years ago. I didn't know
how to work it. They're a far more complex beast,
and obviously young minds adapt to technology better than older ones.
They're not like they were in the eighties, duncan.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
Well, luckily, luckily, our one's quite simple and juita and
she's she's a smart wee rest anyway, so she'd figure
it out. And she's yeah, taken to it like.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
A duck to order.

Speaker 9 (15:20):
Now she can reach the pedals, so.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, okay, hey, well we'll take a break. Thank you
very much for your time being part of the Farmer panel.
Stu Duncan and Duncan hum here. We've got the people
from Toyota here as well. But just before we go
to Phoebe and Ben Yep and Ben, I want to
zoom over the road if I can. Andy Andy McDonald's

(15:43):
paneling for us out of Auckland, so we might see
if we can get Craig Wiggins next, who's the clerk
of the course at the Addington Raceway, which isn't very
far away from here at all. And of course, as
we were talking to David Carter, this week is all
about cup I e The racing and show, the AMP
Show one hundred and sixty first one here today. So
we'll take a break back on the other side of

(16:04):
at Craig Wiggins twenty eight after twelve year with the
country coming to you from the christ Church AMP Show.
I'm looking directly at Phoebe Nichols from Toyota, and if

(16:25):
I looked, if I craned my neck round hard left,
I'd be looking at the Addington Raceway and that's where
Craig Wiggy Wiggins is today. He's the clerk of the
course Wiggy. Of course we've got the show where we are.
You've got the races, including the free for all today
at Addington. Weather and track conditions.

Speaker 10 (16:43):
Yeah, man, it's going to be a little bit colder
than it was for Cup day, but there's guaranteed a
good day's racing. This is the industry day where there's
lots of big prize money up. It's big races as
you mentioned the free for all, but also there's a
couple of extra five hundred thousand dollars races today for
the three year old trotters and paces as well. So
the Aussies are out here. They took they took away
the Trotting Cup the other day and got a lot

(17:06):
of big races as well, so they're backing themselves to
give us a bit of a hiding again today.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
So what does the clerk of the course do.

Speaker 10 (17:14):
So basically, our jobs to get the horses out on time,
are in perfect time for the running of the race,
good fifteen minutes before the start time, and then we
sort of shap our own horses in and out of
the stables and also round at the start a little
bit as well as the starter's crew. But as there's
ever a loose horse gets away, that's our job to
catch you. As somebody gets tipped out of the solkie

(17:34):
or tipped off the back that they were jockey, that's
our jobs catch them. And that's pretty exciting when it's
all going. But you know it's all health and safety too,
so yeah, lots of fun. But a crowd can keep
belind on the crowd and see what's happening out there
as well.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, do you get dressed up on your Sunday find
us to do the job, Willie.

Speaker 10 (17:51):
I'll tell you what, Jamie, if you come down and
have a look today, after you've finished there, you will
see me as you've probably never seen me before, madam,
as far away from a farmer's i've ever been today,
red jacket, white fance riding stock and that's the part.
Most days we're just wearing white shirts and white jackets.
But today it's a big day, so we dress it up.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
But yeah, now, do you have to go to Rickett
and tomorrow for the gallops?

Speaker 11 (18:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I don't.

Speaker 10 (18:15):
I've had three days this week of clarking. I'll probably
do for a bit of a rest tomorrow. We had
the cup on Tuesday, and we had fourteen races at
Ashburton yesterday and another thirteen today. So the guys that
are done ricket and they sort of specialize in the thoroughbreds,
we're into the hardness side of things. So yeah, another
team tomorrow. It's a pretty big week for everybody in
Canterbury as far as racings concerned.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's a huge week in Canterbury. Hey, Weggy, thanks for
your tom I know you've got to get on and
be the clerk of the course at Addington. Thanks for
adding the racing vibe to today's show.

Speaker 10 (18:45):
Yeah, good luck with everyone that's enjoying themselves over there,
and don't forget come on over to the stables later on,
Jamie and I'll get you a shovel and we'll find
something green.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I've got I'm on the last flight out tonight. I've
got a week at a time to kill. I might
take you up on that, mate, Craig Wiggy Wiggins. They
are twenty nine away from twelve. Well, well, the main reason,
to be perfectly honest, we're up here is because we
are doing a co lab with the people from Toyota
who have got a wonderful activation going. They've got the
new Toyota Hilux Hybrid. I drive one of those things

(19:13):
around and they go like a cut cat. But I
guess part of the activation is to prove that even
though it's a hybrid, that can still toe big big things.
And Phoebe Nichols, you've come all the way from Palmerston
North this morning. Where which is Toyota HQ. I didn't
realize that. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (19:30):
Our headquarters are in Palms North.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
You might want to get that away bit closer there
we go. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Yeah, so you've
flown down from PALMEI and this is sort of this
is like Parmi weather here, but a wind the turbines.

Speaker 12 (19:43):
I know you've made us feel very at home. So
thank you very much for the Canterbury op show.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 12 (19:48):
Now we're here, we're just watching a brand new campaign
to showcase the no compromise message with our Highlights hybrid
and we've got the S five cruise of the four
wheel drive one, the same as the one that you
drive J and we are basically going to be towing
a three point five ton sign around the whole of
New Zealand to actually prove that the highlex hybrid can toe.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I've seen the sign. It's very impressive. It's made out
of what's stainless steel?

Speaker 12 (20:17):
It is, it's made out of stainless steel.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
That doesn't weigh three and a half tons.

Speaker 12 (20:20):
Well, we've done a little bit of trickery in the trailer.
So our friends at Kia Trailers in Hilton purposely built
the trailer for us. So it's a three Excel trailer
and it is three and a half tons complete with
a sign on the top. It's got a whole lot
of ballast built into the bottom of it. We've actually
used really heavy link chain. It's been to the way bridge.
It is definitely three and a half is half done.

(20:42):
So yeah, we're really keen to prove that this thing
can do what it says on the box.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
And it is a blooming big sign and we'll have
some I'm sure Michelle will have some pictures up on
our social channels off. But does it How do you
get on driving around in the wind like today?

Speaker 12 (21:00):
We have employed John. He's an ex police officer, so
very sensible, and he is actually driving it from event
to event to event and at the moment I don't
think he's had any sort of severe encounters with any wind,
but you know he's a capable driver.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Is this the signs stable? Because I know you're going
to a lot of other AMP shows between now and March,
so it was.

Speaker 12 (21:22):
It the Blendham AMP show last weekend, so it's at
Kenbury Show this weekend and then we're heading off to Stratford,
So that's from the thirty first to the fest of December,
along with the Horror FANUA show in the new year
and also to North Otago Southern AMP shows and Wanica
AMP shows and finishing up at the Medvine AMP show

(21:43):
on the fifteenth of March. But what we're doing in
between all of us touring is it'll be stopping off
at hola of towyter stores along the way for them
to sort of activate along with all of their punters.
So yeah, just keep an eye on our website. We've
got we'd page up which is Twitter dot Cota in
Zenford slash High Lux Hybrid Tour, so you can find

(22:04):
out where it's going to be. And there's actually a
great video on there as well, Jamie, all around how
it was built, because when you said in photos it
doesn't look real, it actually looks cgi, but it is
one hundred per cent reel.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
You can knock on it here and it is big.
All right, there you go, Phoebe for your good work today.
You can pick. Are you going with salt and vinegar,
maple bacon or green onion.

Speaker 12 (22:25):
It is a tough decision, but I'm going to go
with the green onion.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
All right, you take the green angle.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
He's so much right.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I know that's the least we can do. And we've
got Ben here, Jan Trevillion. I hope I got that
right from Miles Toyota just quickly and he can get
so Ben, you chuck that headset on. Ben's gonna have
a choice between the Sultan vinegar and the maple bacon.
Seeing Phoebe's taken the green onion, can I Ben? Miles
Toyota one of the biggest Toyota dealerships in the country.

(22:52):
That is an impressive activation you've got there. And I
note that this sort of a like you're towing a
you're towing a a three and a half ton trailer.
To prove that the hybrid has just as much power
as a diesel highlus. It is effectively a diesel high lux,
but there's also an activation thing where the kids and
the big kids can pull on a on a I
don't know what you'd call it. It's almost like a

(23:14):
rowing machine and test how much they can toe.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, we've got a bit of a set up down
there up against the trailer there, so the big kids
and the little kids, like you say, pull on the
strength test there and see who can pull the hardest.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
So we're going to have a go at that this afternoon,
me and Liam. He doesn't know it, and I've got
the wrong footwear on. I'm getting my excuses in early.
But we've got Chanelle Purser here who runs Okanue operation
and her husband fills here and he's a big unit
and we're going to put him on that this afternoon
to see if we can break the record. What is
the what do we need?

Speaker 5 (23:48):
I think our top so far as about one hundred
and seventy, So there's been a couple of big boys
come down and really get test the limits of it.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So yeah, you got that to beat, I'd say, OK,
just very quickly to finish on the high lucks before
we go to Rural News and sports News, we've got
Chris Brandolino and Barry Soaper and others to come before
the end of the hour. It peaked my interest last
year when the story came out that Toyota high Lux
was going to have a hybrid uit. And I know

(24:14):
a lot about hybrids because my wife drives a rare
four hybrid that is a true hybrid. These quite aren't.
They're not really true hybrids. They just got more get
up and go than a diesel truck.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Basically exactly, it's more so of a mild hybrid that
we're running in the Highluck. So it's got the forty
eight volt battery pack under the rear seats, only ways
about seventy to eight kgs, so it's not a large unit.
And all that's doing is providing a bit of extra
electric assistance for a motor generator that's in substitute of
an alternator off the side of your existing diesel engine.
So you're getting about an eight eight kilo power assistance

(24:51):
for the diesel engines.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well you really notice that when you put your foot down,
they go. They get it quick for diesels. Yeah, are
these dying when you It depends who you ask.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
You know, there's you know, there was there was a
big a big push for them there when the government's
handing out the rebates and that sort of thing. But
obviously when it comes to commercial power, there's no we're
not there yet with electricfication that can match diesel talk
and diesel power. So so hybrid in the meantime is.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
The way for Yeah, that's what I reckon. You've got
a dollar each way with your hybrid, and there's certainly
very economical on the likes of the rare fours and
stuff like that, but you can also get all the
performance and you've got no range anxiety.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Exactly right, yep, Yeah, there's no no no need to
plug them in or anything like that. They just drive
like a normal diesel uke and you're getting better performance,
better economy as well too.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
All right, hey Ben, thanks for coming along. We've got
to make your choice of chips. You've got Sultan vinegar
or maple bacon. I might go for a maple bacon.
Maple bacon. Right, we'll reload it. We'll get Teagan, who's
doing a wonderful job here on promotions, to get some
more chips. We're going to take a break on the
other side of it. Hopefully Michelle's got some rural news
for us out of add the meat and studios and hope.

(26:00):
I know he will because he's reliable. Andy McDonnell Our
Andy will have some sports news for us. Chris Brandoleno
and Barry Sober to go and someone else I've forgotten
who it is, but we'll round out the show. There's
lots of people to talk to here in Christchurch. We'll
be back after the break. Come man, okay, welcome back

(26:26):
to the country. It is eighteen make that nineteen away
from one. Some of your feedback coming in Referee Bryce Lawrence,
former head of the New Zealand Referees. I don't know
what he does these days, suggesting he thought I might
be on the head cord, which is a bit rich. Bryce.
Thanks for listening, mate, Do appreciate it's a bit rich
coming from you, a man with pronouns. Do you still

(26:48):
have pronouns behind you in the signature? Bryce, That's what
I want to know. I might send you an email
at n Z Rugby just to see if you have
great to hear from your mate. And also Craig I
better call him out of the hits and z B
and Queensland has sent me a picture of Craig Wiggy
Wiggins with his resplendent blue red jacket on. He looks fantastic. Okay,

(27:11):
let's see if we can find Michelle and add Dunedin
Studios for Rural News.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
The country's rural news with lawn Maaster helping you musty
your lawns for over seventy five years. Visit steel Ford
dot co dot Nz for your local stock guest.

Speaker 13 (27:26):
Yeah, thanks, Jamie. I hope you're enjoying the show up there.
In christ Church News today, what's eating a two milk?
The infant formula Marketer's share price has fallen sharply over
the past month or so. Today, the former high filent
ilent Flyer trades at around five dollars thirty down from
almost eight dollars on July the thirtieth and an apparent
role reversal. Fonterra, whose share price has struggled in recent years,

(27:50):
looks to be on a roll as investors eye up
the likely capital repayment from the sale of its consumers businesses,
which include well nine brands such as Anchor, as well
as Fonterira Ocean and Fonterra Sri Lanka. And That's Rural News.
You can find more at the country dot co dot
end z it. His andy was sports Sports.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Were the math Goo Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.

Speaker 14 (28:11):
Yes thanks Michelle. And in sport, a career spanning more
than sixteen years, is coming to an end. For Tim Southey,
the New Zealand pace bowler, will retire from Test cricket
after the three match series against England next month. Unless
the team actually make it into the World Test Championship
Final in June, he'll still be available for that. Winning
the inaugural twenty twenty one Championship was the zenith of
Southeast career as Test tale of three hundred and eighty

(28:33):
five wickets and an average of twenty nine point eighty
eight from one hundred and four matches, a second only
to Sir Richard Hadley. The Blackcaps great plans to retire
from Tests at his home ground of Seddon Park, and
a Hamilton homecoming also looms for All Whites. Striker Chris Wood,
the Nottingham forest ford will suit up for tonight's World
Cup qualify against Vanuatu at Waikato Stadium. Wood kicked off

(28:54):
his career in the province's senior career in the province.
That is, that's sport, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, thanks for that. Andy. Just on on Tim Salveie,
I think you might better help me out here, Andy
that not only is he one of our greatest ever
Test bowlers or bowlers full stop on all formats of
the game, I think he owns a couple of dairy
farts too. I might be wrong on that one.

Speaker 14 (29:19):
From what I do, he also has the same birthday
as me.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
For it, it's worth so great deal does he. That's
the only thing you've got in common. I certainly don't
have his cricket talon.

Speaker 14 (29:27):
Need's for sating.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
He's a champion and the other thing about him is
so here. I am just pulling this out on the
backside because I've lost Chris Brandolino and I'm panning for time. Liam.
You we can better get ready to tell me your
life story. I think he was like a New Auckland
secondary school boy rugby player as a number six, a
very very good rugby player. He could have chosen that path,

(29:50):
but instead he went the cricket way.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Everything you wanted to know about Tim Salvey. But we're
afraid to ask. We will take a break. I'm going
to have a crack at Chris Brandel. I know he
just texted me and said could I call earlier than
twelve thirty. I'm running late. He's got a meeting at
twelve thirty. But if we don't yarn to him, we'll
we'll definitely catch up with Barry Sober. Now that man
has been in politics and reporting from the press gallery

(30:16):
since Muldoon was Prime Minister. So you might remember Muldoon
was seventy five to eighty four Barry Cutter his teeth
under Rob Muldoon. Has he ever seen anything like the
scenes we had in Parliament yesterday afternoon? What a rabble
that was. So either Chris Brandolina or Barry Sober up
next eleven away from one. You're in the country, coming

(30:47):
to you from the Addington Showgrounds one hundred and sixty. First, well,
it's a christ Church amp show. This year it was
the New Zealand Agricultural Show. I'm not sure what they're
going to call it next year, but they've got it
back up and run after it was canceled in April.
So that is a fantastic effort by Sir David Carter
and all his team and Sir David Carter is a

(31:07):
nice segue into our next guest, Barry Soper. Of course,
Sir David was a Speaker of the House. Berry I
mentioned before I went to the spreak that you've been
in the press gallery since small dooon days. Have you
ever seen anything like that?

Speaker 11 (31:22):
Good afternoon, Jamie, No, I haven't nothing approaching it. The
only thing that came close was Julian Jenta walking across
the house and waving a pen in face of Matt
Doosey a couple of months ago, and that's about as
bad as it gets. But yesterday it was appalling. And

(31:42):
I'm not an old fuddy dudy. I think protest is
sprayed thing. The protests were outside Parliament, not on the
floor of the House of Representatives of New Zealand. And
the MALDI party should feel disgraced today. They shouldn't feel
proud of themselves. Their youngest MP, the youngest MP in

(32:02):
the House, a woman by the name of Clark. She
has been suspended for twenty four hours. She should never
have been in Parliament if she sees it as a
place for protest. I thought it was nothing short of disgraceful.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Should Jerry Brownly have taken a tougher line. What punishments
does he have open to him?

Speaker 11 (32:26):
Well, the difficulty for Jerry Brownly is and David Carter
would understand this. The difficulty is when you've got shouting
at that volume. They started off with the hakka and
it was so loud, and then it was taken over
by the public gallery. Really, your voice cannot be heard
above that. So I think Jerry did the right thing

(32:48):
by ordering the chamber to be cleared and said it
would resume it the ringing of the bowels, and that
happened about twenty minutes later when they could take the
vote on sending the Prince Sible's Bill to the Parliamentary
Select Committee. So I felt for Jerry because Jerry's a
fairly liberal speaker and you know runs the House fairly well.

(33:10):
But yesterday it was beyond anyone to deal with the
rebel that. I thought that they were making a point.
I mean, even the Labor Party. And you'd think the
Labor Party would be wiser than to associate itself at
the Mouldi Party, which they may have to coalesce with
if they get back into government. They were part of
the Hakka as well with Penny Henard coming out on

(33:34):
to the floor of the House and acting up like
the rest of them as well.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Do you think David Seamo was going to get what
he ultimately wants out of this publicity a bit of
a platform to head into the twenty twenty sixth election,
because we know it's not going to get past the
second reader.

Speaker 11 (33:50):
So that's right.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, has he got what he wants? And have the
Maori Party got what they want out of this? Well?

Speaker 11 (33:57):
Well, any publicity is the thing and they have got
a lot of publicity, although I think generally there wouldn't
be a great deal of sympathy for the Maldi Party.
And if you listen to David Seymour's introduction speech yesterday,
it was well measured and said that democracy was not
being done away with New Zealand, which is what the

(34:19):
Maldi Party would have you believe. I'll tell you what
John Key talked about getting rid of the Maldy seats.
Those people that rabble wouldn't be in the Parliament if
it wasn't for the Maldy seats, and maybe it's time
they should look at those again.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Okay, final question for you, where to from here for
the treaty's principles, Buill, does it just dire natural death
early in the new year? How does it work? What's
the time?

Speaker 11 (34:44):
Well, now, Jamie, it'll have six months before the Select Committee,
and that's what they're upset about as well, because every
man and his dog will probably want to say on it,
so that'll ferment again into the new year. So it's
six months that David Seymour wants because the argument will

(35:04):
at least be aired in public and hopefully in a
more rational way than what we've seen hitherto.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
All right, Barry, thank you very much for your time.
I was going to get Jerry Brownlee on the show today.
He's here actually, and David Carter promised him to me,
but he's not doing any media at all, Barry, so
I've missed out on that one. Thanks for your time.
Have a great weekend. There we go seven away from one.
We're going to take a break and come back and
wrap it I think with Rowena in our Auckland studios

(35:34):
now wrapping it from the christ Church amp show. No
Chris Brandolino, he's gone to a meeting Rowena. Duncan's going
to round out the show.

Speaker 11 (35:48):
Row.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
You were at a farewell at Mystery Creek. You're never
at home, by the way, A farewell up Mystery Creek
last night for our great mate Peter Nation, who's stepped
aside as the chief executive a Field Days.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
Yes, I was, indeed, Jamie, and good afternoon. It was
actually quite emotional. You know, Peter's had such a connection
nearly thirty years with Phield Day's eight is the CEO.
Before that he was on the board, and before that
he was working for one of the major sponsors in
an Dad Banks. So yeah, a great chance to reminisce.
I guess you could say catch up with Peter, catch
up with his family have been such a huge part

(36:21):
of his role as well. And just also quickly, Jamie,
am I filling in for Jerry Browne? I'm not really
sure how I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
No, you're filling in for Chris Brandolina r.

Speaker 11 (36:31):
B.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I thought I had Jerry because David So David Carter
came up and said, oh, you know, I will get
Jerry Browne for you. But then I know TV one woke,
old TV one's here and they were trying to they well, no, no, no,
he's doing media with nobody. I thought I would have
been a real coupe to get which cheers are on
the show to kick it off, But no, he's keeping
his own counsel at the moment. But anyhow, you've got

(36:53):
one minute to fill, You've got thirty seconds to fill row. Yeah,
well was it? Give me your best shot.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
I was at Mister Creek as we mentioned last night.
Of course, our Federated Farmers have got their Restoring Farmer
Confidence Tour with the Prime Minister kicking off Tuesday, the
twenty sixth of November, also at Mystery Creek. There's been
so many events actually held there over the past couple
of months, so it's quite interesting to see the Prime
Minister fronting up for farmers there later this month. It'd

(37:18):
be interesting to be a fly on the wall there, Jamie.
But you say I'm never at home, so maybe I'll
stay home for that one. Who knows.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, that farm or Boost Farmer Confidence Tour. I think
it finishes up at Wymo moo Field Day's Sight there
in early December. Right, that's us. We're wrapped up here
from Addington. Might go to the races this afternoon. We'll
catch you back on Monday.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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