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November 27, 2025 • 36 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Brandolino, Stu Loe, Stu Duncan, Rachel Shearer, Todd Clark, Hamish McKay, and Barry Soper.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, you're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Good afternoon, New Zealand, Welcome to the Country. The show
is brought to you by Brent. My name's Jamie McKay.
This is the Four Tops. I can't help myself. I
can't help myself on a Friday. I just have to
talk to our next guest, Chris Brandoleno and ask him
when it's going to rain. So Chris Brandolino very shortly
the Farmer Panel, let me get myself organized. Here are

(00:51):
the Farmer Panel, Stu Duncan and Stue Low, Stu Loo
of course former Canterbury and Crusaders proper North Canterbury. They're
getting a bit dry Stew Duncan and the many at
So what's become a bit of a tradition here on
the Country. Last Thursday of November and Chris Brendolina will
be interested to hear this. We're going to head to Lexington,
Kentucky for Thanksgiving Day. Rachel Sharer on a good twelve months,

(01:14):
a strong wool Hamish mckaye on sport, Barry Soaper on politics.
So without further ado.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Weather on the country with farmlands helping to prevent parasite
outbreaks this summer.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
So there you go, Chris, you're that good. We've even
sponsored you off. What is Thanksgiving? What? What does Thanksgiving
Day mean to you as an American?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Ah, it's two half words and they're good words. Food
and football.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, and family.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, triple that's right. Family, that's right. I'm gott
to forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay. So I know the food and family. Yeah, I
know that. I know the food and family connection. We're
going to talk to Todd k that. But what's the football.
There's always obviously a lot of footy on the telly
on Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, American football. So we're we're smack dab in the
middle probably the second half of the season and from
about Thanksgiving time that's when things start getting, you know,
more serious in terms of playoff picture and things like that.
And it's always the Dallas Cowboys they play a game,
and separate to that, the Detroit Lions play a game.
It's been a tradition for gosh decades, but more recently,

(02:28):
over the past ten years they've added to the schedule
to get a few more games in because you know,
everyone's home, people are socializing, and the TV's on. Also,
you have the Macy Thanksgiving Day Parade which is in
New York City, which kind of ushers in the Christmas season.
So you know, a bit of a purist in my house.
You know, Thanksgiving obviously American holiday doesn't mean much here

(02:49):
of anything in New Zealand. But you know there's always
this debate, what does the Christmas tree go up? When
do you start getting into the Christmas season? And I
always say you got to give proper love and to
Thanksgiving then you get into the Christmas sphere. So oftentimes
Thanksgiving is that kind of pivot point from autumn to winter,
and also people start getting more into the Christmas sphere.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay, well let's go from the pivot point. Let's go
from a pivot point on the Southern Hemisphere spring to summer.
On Monday, you guys at Earth Sciences n Z, the
artist formerly known as Niwa, come out with your summer outlook,
and I'm looking at your drought indexmap and every Friday
I talk to you, there's more yellow on it. And
it's the east coast of both islands. I know some

(03:33):
of the farmers are getting away bit desperate. What do
you got for them?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So look over the next five days, let's talk five
day chunks. There is going to be a good drop
of rain for the upper North Island. Let's start from
the top of Walkaway South, all right, and that will
come in the form of showers, maybe some heavy thunderstorms.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Today.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
We'll get that, no doubt about it. A bit of
a break tomorrow, but then on Sunday, especially late Sunday
in to Monday, another round of showers, thunderstorms and there
could be some heavy downpours and pretty strong thunderstorms. Kind
of a pretty far out there in terms of time,
but that could come Tuesday and Wednesday, so something to
keep in mind. And they'll be gusty wind Hawks Bay.

(04:11):
You need the rain, I know it. Water rapp, particularly
eastern water Rappa, you need the rain, and unfortunately you're
not gonna get as much as the others in the
North Island. You'll get some rain, but it won't be
nearly as much as what will happen over the Central Plateau, Tetanaki,
the Manawatu, the Waikato, et cetera, et cetera. So the
good news some rain. The bad news, not nearly as

(04:32):
much as you need or want. And they'll be wind too,
so the wind that will keep temperatures quite hot. We're
looking at some really hot temperatures this weekend and probably
into early next week, so that will continue for the
South Island. We're going to see rain on the western side,
chiefly because of this western northwest flow over the next
five days. Eastern area is not gonna see as much.

(04:53):
It looks like as we go farther afield after this
sort of active weather, we're going to see Jamie over
the next week, we are going to see a change
to somewhat more settled weather. I think a period of
chili temperature is for the South Island in say mid December,
early to mid December. But the concern is dryness. I
think as we get into week two, week three, and

(05:16):
basically after the first week of December, I guess, to
put quite simply, we do have to watch for prolonged dryness,
extended dryness for much of the North Island and maybe
a good chunk of the South Island. It's the time
of the year in mid December to mid January, where
the sun is at its apex it's most intense, it's strong,
so we're stripping away a lot of moisture from the

(05:37):
ground and we're not going to be putting much back
into it. So just a heads up forty one. As
we get into mid December and probably for significant for
several weeks, there's likely to be a reduction of rainfall
and we could see a rapid onset of dryness for
parts of the country as we get you know, before
Christmas and after Christmas, so we'll keep our eyes on that,

(05:58):
and then as we get towards maybe I suppose February,
we could see more quintessential line media like airflows east
and northeast winds and rainfall enhancements for the northern and
eastern part of the North Island. Looks jambye you hear
that music, So that's my cue to wrap it up here.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, that is in that summer outlook will be released
on Monday. Chris Brandoleno and between times, have a good.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Weekend you too, buddy, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
There we go. He does a great job. From Earth Sciences,
New Zealand. Chris Brandoleno up next to the farmer panel.
Both in sort of summer dry regions really Stullo and
North Canterbury, stew Duncan and the Manototo God Clarks and Lexington, Kentucky.
Thanksgiving Day, American time. We're going there, Rachel Scherer talking. Well,

(06:42):
that's actually a good news story in the past twelve months,
mind you. It needed to Hamish McKay on sport and
cousin Barry if I can find him, on politics.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
The farmer panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute
built tough with truck DNA, the.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Lad me down. Apologies for a wee bit of dead air.
They're just getting myself organized. Michelle's not here today, She's
off running somewhere. Good luck Michelle on your run. Of course,
she got us home. She got us home last night
from the Southern storm. Shout at Nigel Wood and Lean's Place,
South Otago, twenty seventeen, young farmer of their great farm,

(07:41):
great area, stu Low, North Canterbury. One of your old mates,
your old rugby mates, John Latter, was there and he
was inquiring why you weren't there, because you you would
turn up at the opening of an envelope.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Just to be out. And I hear there's another golf
torn that Winnabooons coming out to which we're going to
miss it on but no, no, but part of go
just for gleamb chop and a beer, but maybe next time.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, okay, So you're in North Canterbury. The sudden storm
shout was between Belcluth and Milton, just off State Highway
one there. Of course that's not the only area that
got hit hard by the ones you guys did in
North Canterbury. And the wind's still getting here because it's
drying you out.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, I know, the the Norwaest obviously, the coasts getting
a lot of rain and some of the some of
the rivers have fallen and flowing on this, you know,
the ones from the Southern Elks catchment. But you know,
we're certainly drying out and some of the differently here.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, today you did want to talk about what was
you text the me You said beer and wind and
red meat at all time highs.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, it's been that is the savior. And there's been
a lot of stall lands leaving North Canterbury. The ones
that were leaving, the ones that had got irrigation. Some
of them have been telling getting rid of the lambs too,
and they're heading down your way down. I think I
heard of unit loads from from over the hill from
here went to Tiannia, So yeah, they're going they're going south,

(09:10):
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, well there's no shortage of moisture down there at
the moment. They're very cot well, they're boundering for the Ordlands,
so they've had plenty. Okay, so you you have winger
lambs if you're selling them as store lambs down on
the Manni A Toto Stu Duncan, the unofficial Mayor of Wedderburn.
You haven't even got around to tailing yours yet, Ste.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
No, we've got the last day of the tailing gang
here now. Actually I've just been mobbing up used in
front of them, and I loaded the last of my
hoggits on the truck this morning, just the last thing
to get cleaned up. And yeah, we just got hopefully
another five or six mobs to get mobbed up and
done and we'll be pretty much tied up bar all
their hill country. So yeah, no, we're still just getting

(09:50):
the tails off them and the last of hogits way.
So we're pretty busy. But we've been catching a few
showers of rain, so we're definitely not dry, but the
wind has been given us a bit of a hussle.
But we'll look a.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Picture in here which is great.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
And I'll just see some winged lambs the other day
in the Minnetara and obviously the tops of them have
been killed.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
So we're got to your bed.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Say your weining draft won't be till the new year.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
We won't get guards. Well, we might do some early
is we got a weaf earlier Romney's. We might get
away by you know, first week in January if we can,
and other than that we won't be doing match to
the middle and end of January.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
So Stu Low, you've already had a draft and we're
talking big money. That was one of the things that
farmers were talking about yesterday at the Southern Storm shout
the great money for those early season lambs.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, eleven dollars eleven dollars past depending on farm assurance
programs and you to all the boxes and that sort
of thing. So that, yeah, it's outstanding and just exactly
the same for beef, and I assume venis and although
that the velvet thing's not too good, but anything red
meat is in hot demand.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, Stu duncan you've got a finger and lots of pies,
sheep and beef. I know you've got a deer operation
as well, and you're involved in a dairy farm. So
the sheep and beef side might be becoming more profitable
than the dairy farm, or is it.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Oh, the dairy farm takes awagh pretty well.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
It hasn't got a very.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
High cost set up, so it goes pretty well. But yeah,
we've been killing stags, a lot of the older velvety
mouth and all the velvety and stags, and they're getting
up over ten dollars as well, So no, just get
a few steers away and a few velvety and stags
and lambs. So no, it is positive and tens, tens
and elevens easy to work out, isn't it. So it's
been going quite good, but you know we need it
because there's a bit of catch up on the balance

(11:32):
sheet from a few dry years and some tough springs
in the last couple of years and some very very
poor lemons in the last eighteen months, and those figures
are only sort of coming out now and guys are saying, well,
you know, we might have been down a couple of
thousand lambs and we've come back to normal, so we
need it. So that's good.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So well, plus you need a good income because you've
got a race horse. That's a good way to get
rid of some money.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Stew.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Oh, well, as long as they win, will get the
first first three places they pay their bills.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
But yeah, occasionally they win. But ye know they can
absorb a bit of a gun, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And Stu lower fine, it's it's unusual. We'll get heading
into the first weekend since what mid February of last
year where we haven't got a footage game to watch,
sort of feels unusual. What's going wrong with the All Blacks?
What's the inside oil with the defections from Razors Camp? Stew,
you're well connected.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
I know. I haven't heard anything of any problems there,
but oh no, it's just I mean, there's a lot
of scrutiny that comes with any any job when you're
at the top, I suppose, so, yeah, the expectations to
hire from from everyone in New Zealand. And yeah, and
there's former players that they were all we all think
we all know, but no, yeah, I don't know any

(12:43):
more than anyone else. But you know it's I presume
it's a work in progress for them, and then hopefully
they get a full some few more people flip for
next year and have a full squad in the full
full quoted to pick from a and put a bit
of pressure internally so that the result.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Have you got to saw bum? Have you got to
saw a bum? From sitting on the picket pens? What
do you reckon? Stew duncan? I think he's ducking for cover.
He knows a lot more than he's letting on.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
He comes from cared reasons, don't they.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, I know they only have one eye. I think
he's only listening with one air as well. Anyhow, lads, hey,
thanks for your time and good luck with your horse
this afternoon. What's the name of the donkey?

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Stew Penbow's ladd is his name raised five at Cromwell.
He's quite a good horse.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I had a share in a horse once through lashes.
He used to work here. I'm not sure whether the
horse has gone to Asia and the can or whether
it's still running around the paddock somewhere. It's a mystery
to me.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Well know this one's all right.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
See you lads all the us. Yes, horse racing, don't
start me on there. Anyhow, We're going to take a
on the other side of it. Well, we might catch
up with Rachel Sharer. It's it's really good for the
sheep and beef farmers. Chatting to lots of them yesterday

(14:10):
at the Southern Storm Shout thanks to Emerson's and thanks
to Spades and thanks to Silver fer and Farms. We
had a great afternoon with the farmers in South Otago.
But you know, a recurring theme is the really good
money for beef and lamb at the moment. But the
other story is a wool, especially strong wallet. You couldn't

(14:32):
give the stuff away a year ago. It's actually worth
something there. We're going to talk wall next on the country.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
On the side of the.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Nature. Well, it was once the ugly duckling of the
primary sector stable. These days I think someone has kissed
a frog because the wall market is coming right. How
did you like that intro, Rachel Sharer from PGG Rights
and Wool.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
That was a perfect intro. We're yet to turn into
the beautiful swan, but we'll get there.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, we will get there.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You and I were having a chat off here about
how lucky we were that we weren't teenagers when social
media was around, would have been a disaster. But I
was talking about influencers to you, and you're a wool influencer.
But can you believe people actually buy products off the
back of a celebrity who endorses it, who's getting paid
a fortune to endorse it. How dumb are people?

Speaker 8 (15:48):
Well I can't comment on them individually, but if those
influencers are wearing wool, I'd probably be backing them. I've
got to be.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, you are a wool influencer yourself. Are you influencing
the market? Someone is? Because when and you've chucked some
unbersit me here, Rachel, when we go year on year,
we've had some outstanding percentage wise improvements out of wall
Albeit we have to put this in here off off
a low base, but people had almost given up on
the strong wallmark and I put it to you, now

(16:15):
it's worth something.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
It is worth something. And look, as I always say,
we've still got a really long way to go. But
you know the fact we release our strong will indicator
after each auction, the fact we've had to increase the
grass axis has said a lot.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
We're up.

Speaker 8 (16:31):
You know up twenty seven percent on South Island standard
default type. So those of your listeners who know you
know the thirty seven s two d which those in
the business know, you know it was three seventy clean
a year ago today yesterday under the hammer it went
for four seventy threes, a twenty seven percent increase, which
is great. But for me that the days of growing
up in the North Canterbury farms with those good old corridales.

(16:53):
That mid micron twenty eight full length was four sixty
last year and it went under the hammer for eight
dollars a seventy four percent increase. Now we know there's
not a lot of that still around, but that's really
good signs. And then the other interesting part, and I
know we've talked about this before, Jamie, but those oddments,
you know, the stuff that farmers just couldn't be bothered

(17:15):
putting in and I don't blame them, was a dollar
forty eight. You know, it's now one hundred and sixty
percent increase at three dollars eighty six. The oddments are
as we'd like to say, they're going off.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So they are going on. What about DAGs? Does anyone
still pay good money?

Speaker 8 (17:28):
For DAGs, Well they pay money for DAGs. We while
ago they weren't paying anything, so you no, there is
there is still good money and DAGs. New Zealanders love
their gardening and there's definitely a good a good market
there for DAGs. And then at the other end the
Marino season, we kind of had the last of that
wall offered yesterday and you know that's up twenty five

(17:49):
percent on the same time last year, so right across
all wall types we have seen positives.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now this increased demand is coming largely off the back
of China.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
Yeah, are still buying and are still buying at these prices,
and we know sometimes they can turn on and off
the tap, but at the moment, the tap still on.
And I think the real classic supply and demand is
rarely coming home to roost, and buyers are knowing it's
not just New Zealand where sheet numbers are declining, it's globally,

(18:21):
so getting their hands the on wall for their ford
sales is becoming really important. So that market is holding
pretty stable and is continuing to increase. We saw a
bit of a blit mid months, but it's back holding,
which is a good sign because you know, we're heading
into the North Island market now peak season sharing is

(18:42):
well underway, so that that wall starts hit the market
mid January or early to mid January. So that's looking
good as well. So he's hoping that it continues to hold.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And just finally your new option system which you introduced
in recent weeks, having basically New Zealand Wilds wide sale
get it right, Christ alternating with Napier. Is it working well?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
It is working well. There's some pretty spirited bid incoming.
More buyers are in the room. We're trialing it now
for the next couple of sales, will be trialing it
up in the North Island to see how it works
up there, so you know, heading into their peak season
that will also be including South Island walls. But no,
it is definitely it's definitely paying off having all those

(19:27):
buyers in the same room being able to view and
appraise that wall under one roof. We believe it's making
it making a good difference.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wow, lyng over due the renaissance of strong wall. Bring
it on, Rachel share out of PGG rights and thanks
for your time.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Thank you, Jamie, have good weekend.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I Well, indeed, it is make that twenty eight away
from one. No Michelle today she's off running or biking.
The addition zero bike race. Where's that at? Why Mattie
in South Candor so on? Stepping up to the box,
The Batter's Box and the Places Online editor Jane Ferguson, Jane,

(20:07):
let me just roll the sweet credit.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
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Speaker 6 (20:17):
For your locals.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Douggist, because if I didn't play that, I'd have John
mcaviny on the case. Believe you me. You don't want
them on your case? No good blow not but don't
make a mistake, okay, So apprecire no pressure with your
rural news read all right, what do you got?

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Okay? So in rural news, I've got a beef Mints
is no longer the budget friendly option Kiwi households have
relied on, with new figures showing it is now more
expensive than lamb chops. Stats indead says food prices rose
four point seven percent in the year to October, but
beef min's are jump to staggering eighteen percent. The average
price for a kilo of mints is now twenty three

(20:54):
dollars and seventeen cents, which is slightly higher than lamb chops,
which are at twenty two dollars and twenty seven cents.
Rubber Research analyst gy In Corkran says global demand is
driving the spike. She says around eighty percent of New
Zealand's beef is exported, with the United States being the
biggest destination. She says that since US cattle numbers are
at historic lows as they rebuild their herds, the demand

(21:16):
for lean trim, which is the same product used for
our supermarketments, has surged. She says local retailers are competing
with global buyers, pushing prices up and the trend could
last for years.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Do you know what I think the cheapest form of meat, well,
protein would have to be a bachelor's handbag. You know
what that is?

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Is that the chicken?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's the chicken, the one you buy in the seat.
It's a bachelor's handbag.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I think.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Do you know what the cheapest form of meat is
at our place?

Speaker 6 (21:40):
What?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well, I don't. I don't get home kill anymore, or
not much. I used to when my brother was farming.
But no, when I invite Rowena down to stay, and
if she's listening, Rowena, it's about time you came down
for a weekend. And she stays there. Then she zooms
off to Ranfilly and comes back with a whole lot
of venison.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think I might have some of my freezer that
I was meant to give you. Sorry about that, okay, yeah,
but so there you go, Rowena, come back down and
shoot something, not a person, a deer or deer singular.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
Or plural, a person.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
Meat.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's amazing, isn't it. Mince was sort of the poor
man's meat. Now it's more expensive than a lamb.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
Trop hard to believe about mince pies. What are we
going to do?

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Well?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I don't know what happens to Jimmy's pies. Are they
going to be priced off the markets that would be
thinking about? No, it's not worth thinking about. There you go,
Jane Ferguson Worth one of the great rural news reads
of all time. I'll see if I can follow that
up with sport sports.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
On the country with a fco business Well done.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
A Blackfoils skipper Peter Berling is backing strategist Live Mackay,
that's my daughter. No it's not No, it's not Live
MacKaye to stare at the ship if he sits out
Tomorrow Night's sale GP Final and Abu Dhabi Burr mister
yesterday's practice session due to a cut to his right

(23:03):
index finger suffered while investigating an issue with the boat's daggerboard.
Don't fiddle with the daggerboard, Peter and goal attack Tapia
Selby Rickett is reuniting with coach Kerry Wills at the
Queensland Firebirds next year. Selby Rickett, who has sixty six
silver fern caps, was coached by Wills and the New

(23:24):
Zealand schools team when she was sixteen years of age.
And that is your sports news. Isn't this a great song?

Speaker 7 (23:36):
This is a great track.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
This was voted New Zealand's greatest pop song of all time.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
I like the remake too by the Mutton Birds.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, this is the formula of the original one.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
This is a great trip and.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Don't dream It's over by Crowded House was voted as
number two.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Okay, yeah, excellent.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
There you go, Joan, I've made your day a bit better.
Thanks for helping me out today and Michelle's absence. Up next,
we're off to Lexingtentucky a Thanksgiving Day. It's become a

(24:19):
bit of a tradition here on the country. On the
last Thursday of November, Thanksgiving Day in the United States,
we head to Lexington, Kentucky Bluegrass country, although the grass
is under snow at the moment. Perhaps Todd Clark is
our guy over there. Todd, how special is Thanksgiving for
American families?

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Good day, Jamie the Yeah, it's a huge holiday. It's
it's probably second only to Christmas time here in the States.
And you know, as an example, today we had thirty
five people at our house for a Thanksgiving dinner and
in the same thing, you know, all across the US unfold.

(25:01):
So it's a huge holiday here in the States.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, and as I've said on numerous occasions, we took
a farming touring group over and had a Thanksgiving dinner
at your house. It was wonderful. Traditional fair is like
turkey and all the extras.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
It is in country ham and yeah, dumplings and gravy
and the list goes on, and multiple pies and yeah,
any foods you can imagine. That's what would be had.
But the traditions are turkey and mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes,
and green beans, and the list goes on.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Can you afford to have beef on the table?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Yeah, it's funny that you asked that. Since the last
time that we talked, the our president has tweeted a
couple of times and has come out and said that
he's going to try to reduce the cost of groceries
in the grocery stores, try to roll back inflation some

(26:01):
and so he's catering to the masses as he should,
but he in the meantime, he's thrown US beef producers
under the bus, and so are our highs of of
this year. We're we're almost back a whole twelve months
in pricing now, cattle of average probably two to three
hundred dollars ahead less in the in the last two

(26:23):
weeks than they did as recent as a month ago.
So we'll we'll see. But beef producers in the US
are really frustrated with the with the president at the moment.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, beat producers in New Zealand are quite happy with them.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
I understand. With the with the tariffs being rolled back
and the fundamentals of the beef markets still say that
we'll have good prices going forward. Supplying demand indicate that
it's I think the market just took advantage of of
what the president is saying and seize the opportunity to produce.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I won't hold you too long. I realize it's a
public holiday and you've got to digest that Thanksgiving dinner,
Todd Clark. But we talked about the Kentucky or the
blue grass of Kentucky. Is it white at the moment?
Is it covered with snow?

Speaker 6 (27:13):
It's not at the moment that we have already had
a snow a few weeks ago, and we're right around
freezing today as you and I talk. So it's we're
into winter and counting the days down till spring at
this point.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, Todd Clark, thank you very much. It is a
tradition to you and to you on Thanksgiving Day, it
is a wonderful American feast, and for those who are
unaware of its origins, it is effectively for celebrating bringing
the last of the harvesting? Am I right in saying that.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Yes, that's exactly right, and and so that's the reason
we have all the different types of food in that
sort of thing. So it is a season to be
thankful for friends, family and food.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Great combination. Todd Clark enjoyed the rest of your day
with your family. Thanks for your time.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Thanks Jamie.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
One of my alphs favorites Kentucky rain. It is seventeen
away from one old stew old stew stew Lowe sat
on the fence of it when it came to Razor
and the coaching staff. I don't think Hamish MacKaye is
going to do that. He's up next Barry Soper apparently, well,
I know he is. He's writing a book. He knows

(28:24):
where a lot of bodies are buried. I wonder when
his book's coming out. We'll ask him. Before the end
of the hour.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Was clear, was it yesterday?

Speaker 10 (28:32):
No mackay on sport with farm lands, prevent parasite outbreaks
and score a win this summer.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Okay, he told me, he told me he was going
to be doing the agrarian thing live from the fielding
stock sail yards in the middle of fielding. But no,
Hamish mackay, you've let down your rural roots. You're sipping
lattes on a Palmerston North pavement what's happened, What's happened
to the world Homers.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Well, you know, I got dragged to a meeting with
a banker see and he's a rugby man and he
wants me to get involved in his and.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Our old club.

Speaker 11 (29:11):
My old club's are footy committee and you know club
Rugby is a bit dire, so I agreed to meet him,
you know, at Moxy's Cafe on the famous George Streets
strip of Parma, the North Well.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's one of the great one of the great honors
of my life was being made last year a life membership.
I'm not quite life member of the Riversdale Rugby Club.
I'm not quite sure how I got it, but I
wasn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
And I just think you're HARKing back to your old
club rugby days. They were, in a lot of ways
the best and simplest years of your life.

Speaker 11 (29:43):
I couldn't agree more beautiful times. And you know, look,
I know it's a changing face when you're thinking like
a manter or two. There used to be about seventeen
rugby teams at Massive is now too, I think. But
some way, if we don't give it our best shot
to keep it going. We've still got the magnificent I
rew a rugby club, the ground and the clubrooms. You know,
it's the envy of all the other clubs. So yeah,

(30:06):
I'm happy to be. I guess I'll get co opted
in some shape or form.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Well, you and I are both great former players. Stu Lowe,
I guess can claim it that he was okay as
a former players, did a bit better than you and I.
But he sat on the fence when I asked him
about the coaching problems within the All Blacks camp. I
think you're going to come in off the long runner,
at least I hope you do.

Speaker 9 (30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:25):
I just don't get it. I can't. I cannot believe
that Raisor Robinson came out and said that he's sort
of the head gaff of it, the guy that coaches
the team. As the guy I even struggled to get
to think of his name, Scott Hanson, who speaks in riddles.
I don't get it. I don't know his background. We
all knew the background of Leo McDonald and Jason Holland,

(30:47):
both very successful coaches and players of the absolute top level.
You know, I don't get it, and I don't know that.
I hope there's more than a couple of pees sitting
under raises seven towels on the beach this summer because
it isn't good. And if he has lost the dressing room,
which seems to be some of the suggestion, then you

(31:10):
know we've got enough time to recover before the next
World Cup.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
But yeah, I'm with you, Homer Shoul. I just want
the coaches to speak English, ye, And the Scott Hanson
Black I don't know. I'm from Barras Soap, but he
sounds like John Mitchell from the early two thousands.

Speaker 11 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, And I think the thing too is that,
you know, like, don't make something out of playing whales.
For goodness sake, they're not even in the top twelve
of fifteen in the year. There was no correction or
got this right and we did that, you know, something
to build on. Go back to the results that count
and they are something by the box, something by Argentina,

(31:47):
something by England and pretty you know, we kind of
play of our we ride our luck and we get
the bounds of the ball against the Scots and things. So, yeah,
there's trouble at nol.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well they's got two years to get it right and
we're stuck with him. I mean, I kind of think that.
And we played golf with them occasionally here in the
Need and at the Otago Golf Club, and I'm thinking
the best coach in New Zealand is actually coaching the
South African Banks Tony Brown.

Speaker 11 (32:13):
Yes, And people forget too that that Jamie was doing
an okay job with the with the Highlanders, but a.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
Lot of those players were a little.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
Bit resentful back in the day before they won the
title of all the of the sort of military like
regime that Jamie rant. Tony Brown came in and he
bought the poor and didn't you know, he came in
and he just calmed things down, backed off. He's he's superb,
you know. And it's just a crying shame that he's
with the best outfit in world rugby. Isn't he going

(32:43):
to make them better? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, your player of the year is cam Royguard, who
is an outstanding rugby player. But I think across the board,
I'd go with Big Farbi and Holland.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Yep, I wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
And that's hard to argue against. And I think because
Holland was there a lot more of it to Royguard
obviously he had you know, his time was limited, but
he just the difference he's made, it might have looked
a hell a lot different that he hadn't recovered. They
don't seem to have a lot of faith in whose
next cab off the rank at half back too.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
But the big boy Holland, it's one of the.

Speaker 11 (33:10):
Beautiful stories, isn't it, you know, coming from where he did,
and you know he's been remarkable, So yeah, you know
I'd have a quinnell of those two.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, and he's a big piece of beef as well.
Hamous enjoy the rest of your days sipping latte on
the pavements of Army. So Hamish McKay and mckaye on
sport actually before I forget because I'll get in trouble.
And they were very present yesterday in our minds anyhow,
And that's farm Strong. Some parts of the country, as

(33:40):
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taken a real battering with the weather recently. Dealing with
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So he to getting through dot farmstrong, dot co dot nz.

(34:04):
There's a lot of dots in there this weekend for
free tools and advice on how to recover from extreme weather.
And good luck to all you farmers out there who
have got a lot of time on a chainsaw in
front of you over the next few months. Barry Soper
wraps the country next. He ain't heavy, he's my brother. Well,

(34:37):
he ain't heavy. He's a fine and he's in fine
shape for his age. Barry's sober. He's not my brother,
but he feels like it is my cousin. Hey, Baz,
thank you for taking time. I know you've had a
week off to finish your book that's coming out next year.
I hope you are going to tell us where all
the bodies are buried.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
Well, it's actually more of a meander through all prime
ministers that I've worked with, going back to Rob Muldoon,
and it's anecdotes about particular stories that they told me.
I told them, so it's a bit of a yarn
all the way through. Jamie. You may remember I think

(35:17):
I've probably said to you that one of my staff
several years ago decided to clean out the office and
I had about four thousand pages of columns that I'd
written since before Roger Douglas, and he cleaned out the
office and destroyed a lot of them. So I got
off to a very hard start because I had to

(35:39):
then recall rather than see you'll read the stuff in
the columns.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well, I can't wait, and I know I've asked you
this question before. Who's the best prime minister? Correct me
if I'm wrong in your lifetime? You say, Helen Clark.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
I'm not even going to tell you that.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Come, I'm Barry giving the secret away. All right, Well,
I have to wait for the book to come out. Hey,
thanks for taking time out on your week off.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
No worries, Jamie, having good weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Barry's sober there.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Actually I go with Key, Key's the best prime Minister
of my lifetime, and I reckon Barry is going to
go for Helen Clark. You'll have to read it in
the book though. We'll catch you back on Monday. Have
a great weekend.

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