October 9, 2025 • 38 mins
Hamish McKay talks to Hugh Jackson, Paul Allison, Chris Russell, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCallum, and Jasper van Halder.
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It's our FMG Young Farmer of the Year Hugh Jackson
and his mental health story.
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The hottest auction item was a big advertising package year
with Jamie McKay that went through the roof. Also today
our Farmer Politicians Panel, Paul Allison, this man knows Sport
joins me for McKay on Sport, Our trans Tasman corresponding
Chris Russell and Agritech Leader Yes Van Helder of agg Nition.
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But first up Hugh Jackson, Young Farmer of the Year
and his mental health.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Story live.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Looking out for our farmers on the country with Federated
Farmers proud supporters of Mental Health Awareness Week.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Well you're down the King Country today doing a bit
of sort of you know, a little bit of taking
some new information on board.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, happen to look around a few farms down
here who are doing some pretty impressive all finishing and
techno system sort of set ups and looking can implement
some of that home there in Gak. So you're just
trying to figure out what the best way to do
that is and seeing what other people are doing. And
trying to learn from them.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Innovation, Hey, tapping into the resources, fantastic mental health aware
in this week, everybody just will look at you and
got a young, shining star guy with the future and
great future, which is the truth. But you've had your
own journey, Yeah, would you like to you know, I'd
like it if you'd share that with us to the
benefit of others.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah, yeah, No, no worries Hamless. Obviously, everyone goes through
tough spells in life, whatever whatever that may be, and
it looks different for everyone. But I had a few
challenges back in twenty twenty twenty twenty one. For sure,
I was and at my last points depressed on medication.
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I used to telepram is the stuff I was taking
and definitely never envisions getting there, but it's just just
how it all sort of turned out and panned out.
On reflection, I've done done a lot of learning since then,
and it's helped me to stay fit and well of
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time since then. But I've still had periods, especially going
into winter in that where I get get times that
i feel like I've got less energy and things are
tougher than they they should be. But upon reflection, what
really got me into some trouble was really my own
internal battle and expectations putting them on myself that are
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probably too high and until we all our own worst
critic at times, and I was spedding myself up, and
I could only see the negatives really and as as
humans were geared, only to see the negatives a lot
stronger than the positives due to back in the day
when we're running around and the predators would you know,
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in fact skirts or whatever, and there's predators out there
that would would eat us if we weren't good that way.
So learning about all that was was really really key
for me. But it doesn't I doesn't discriminate, and even
though it's fit and healthy at the time, still still
definitely was haunted by the black dog and felt like
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I didn't really have any reason to be depressed, but.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But I did.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
And I vividly remember I was working with Darians at
the time and they were great support if you support networking,
got counseling, and they're vividly remember driving back from Eshbred
into christ it's just thinking what would happen if I
ran into the oncoming truck, you know, because and I
could see and why people do take their lives, and
(05:35):
the suicide is a real thing and it really happens.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I'm going to get yep.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I want to ask you what age were you when
this when the when the black dog you referred to said, and.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What age were you?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Twenty one two?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So what were you like through later years of primary school,
high school?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
What were your moods like, what we what were.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
There any telltale signs that would I have ever pointed
out to you that you were going to end up
in that space.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I didn't really experience anything like it until entering the workforce,
to be honest, and we've been pretty energetic and keen
to get into things and give everything my all. And
it was probably the fact, you know, at UNI, I
was working hard at Yuni doing my UNI work, and
then I'd go away on holidays and work hard on
the farms and that I was working on, and you'd
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have that break. I guess it was just kind of
like a forced break. But then you head to the
workforce and it's a bit of a different beast.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Really.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
It's you start on Monday, finish on Friday. If you're
in a seven day, five day a week job and
farming a different beast altogether as well in your hands
on and on the tool. So just probably the fact
that yeah, burn out to little thing and you've got
to look after yourself and do that. But for me,
the keys getting out of it was a lot of education.
(06:53):
John Kerwin's book was massive. Nathan Nelson from Baron Zed
really helped me there by giving me that book, and
into that a lot came Brisco as well as huge. Yeah,
really cool book as well, and yeah, just learning learning
about how the brain works and all that sort of
it was massive.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I love that. I love Cane story.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Just going in and hammering the bags, you know, I
just felt, you know, in the evening and suddenly things
started to change physiologically, psychologically, everything, just by just going
in there at night and just hitting the bags. You know, Like, so,
what can you give me? I know you do a
lot of reading and you can do all that, but
what's what's one or two things you put into your
day to make sure the black dog doesn't start barking
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reel out again.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I guess just the basics first, eating, sleeping well is key,
and looking after yourself, sitting yourself up for success with
that good foundation. And then talking talking to people and
when you're having those challenges and struggles and making a
plan when the pressure comes on, and writing things down,
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prioritizing and realizing and sort of asking yourself, what's the
least or the minimum I have to do today when
you were in those pressure cooker environments, to sort of
try and focus on what needs doing and what can
wait to another day.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Kicks and balances right here, checks and balances. Always keeping
an eye on yourself.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
And obviously you need to keep yourself physically feather as
well and do all that too. But yeah, talking with
others and making a plan and keeping yourself on checkers
is yeah, one hundred percent the way to go.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Young Farmer of the year, a man who's beaten off
the depression. And you had those horrible thoughts while you're
driving on the road there, which and we know you're
not the lone range of there.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You thank you very much for sharing your story.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
We'll let you get back to starting those bull beef
systems down there in the king Country.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Much appreciate it, right, so much so.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
A good weekend and to me, that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Master tar bad.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Birdst feeling love is drown in Southern Ground.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yes this is the country coming up to nineteen minutes
after midday, standing by to talk a bit of sport
now with the Voice of the South Paul Allison. I
love it and Paul on because he's somebody who understands stats.
He understands has a great base knowledge of all sports,
but also understands what side entry at the breakdown is
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and what boring in is at the scrum and what
actually afford passes, so you know, walks and talks radio.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It is time for.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
McKay on sport with farm Lands. You get ahead of
the game this summer.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Paul Allison.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Welcome on to the country, sir, and looking forward to
a big weekend of Bunnings in PC action.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
You get a Hamish. It's great they have one mackay
replaced and other, isn't it on the country. Yeah, it's
a big weekend all right, and it's hard to pick
these guys, these matches that we've got in front of us.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Kicks off to night ten pass seven.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Not sure why it's five minutes later than the normal
kickoff time, because maybe they'll be waiting for a big
crowd to roll and down at Forsyth Bar Stadium when
Otago take on this afternoon, the waycat out the mighty
mulop and they've been boosted so much with the three
you know, come all backs coming back into the mix
with Jacobson and Leonard Brown and also Sammer Penny Fenale.
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That'll make a bit of a difference. But they haven't
been with the guys for very long because a couple
of the money just come back from Perth last week,
so that'll be an interesting match.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
I think that'll be close.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
And then of course we kick off tomorrow afternoon when
we get into things in the second of the quarter
finals by a Plenty against Tasman at ten pass four
and then tomorrow evening Hawks Bay against Taranaki. Interesting when
these two teams met earlier on Taranaki beat Hawks Bay
and Bay a Plenty beat Tasman. But this Tasman site
looks really good in the back line that they've got,
but they've just been patchy this year. They just have
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really been consistent enough. And when you look at players
likes of Moua in there and back A Springer and
David Harveli and Tamufalao on the back line, they've got
plenty of talent to burn, but whether or not they
can execute it against what will be a pretty challenging
match against the Bay. So yeah, some interesting matches this weekend.
I'm sure that'll create a lot of interest as we
count down to next weekend with a semis.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, absolutely, Tigo have been to the manor Born this season.
They look like they're a contender all the way. White
Kadow by the hair on their chinny chin chin and
lost to got hammered by the likes of matter were two,
so I would have thought there's one result only possible.
But as you say, White Katto strengthened. But you'd have
faith in Otago to do this with in your Paul,
I think that they should get this by twelve plus.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
I think it'll be closer than that. I think it'll
be pretty much right down to the wire. Don't underestimate
this White Catto side. They've got a thirty six year
old bloke wearing the number ten jersey called Cruden who's
been around longer than you and I just about a
mush to be fair.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
The Otago side, look, they've been consistent this year. Where
is Whitekattow?
Speaker 8 (11:58):
They had a what a one point win against Auckland,
at one point win against Counties, a one point win
against Taranaki and a one point win against North Harbors.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
They haven't won convincingly.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
This year, but Otago they've wiped the floor on a
couple of teams, including Auckland last week when they absolutely
ran up that record score from the all time history
of Otago rugby against Auckland.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
So they've done well.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
We've got a couple of young guys that really have
stood out. Dylan pledged of this young twenty year old
halfback who's been a member of the under twenty team,
vice captain for the for the basically the Baby Blacks,
and Lucas Casey, still only in his second season of
rugby as an open side flanker.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
These two have been really good.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
But it's the players right across the paddock that's been
Otago's success this year. They've been consistent, they've done things right,
they've been well coached and they haven't had too many injuries.
And so I don't think twelve plus.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I'm not going that. I'll go twelve and under.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay Hawks Bay Taranaki. You know both both you know, contenders,
a little bit of up and down stuff, but I yeah,
look like home at Vartage probably for me in that one.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Yeah, I think you're probably right, as I said Taranaki
turned the tables earlier on in the yeir but Hawks
Bay at home they are pretty dangerous and this is
two good sides. I mean when you look at these
and the way that the competition has panned out this year,
you could almost say that any team's got a chance.
I think Counties Madecow is probably the biggest outsider at
the stage and I would imagine they will struggle against
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Canterbury who are hidden hitting their straps as they have
pretty much throughout most of the season apart from they
lost a shield and went to extra time against Northland.
But you know that's the good matchups and you know
Bay have plenty Tasman Hawks by Taranaki, I don't know
which way either of them will go. Maybe hometown advantage,
but again just don't underestimate that Tasman backline right exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Counties Madecaos you say, come home with the wet sale,
but Canterbury to win that one. All Black's just out
of ten for the season to day, Paul, what's you
taking solid six?
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Maybe maybe touching seven can't get above the seven Hamish
to be fair, I mean they've been inconsistent. They haven't
played that wide, enterprising, attacking style of rugby that Razor
had hoped that they might when he announced his squad
at the start of the season. They lost that test
in Argentina, which I was there for, and they just
haven't been dominant enough.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
I mean, they got a win last.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Week in Perth and that was a bit of a
redeeming factor for them because they're able to win two
matches in a row.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
But they just haven't been consistent enough.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Sure, they've had some injuries, but they need to be
better and the Northern Tour will be a good test
for them.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Okay, and finally, Sunday, Big Day Mount Pandorama Bathhurst. Do
you sort of take the Sunday out of the diary
and watch it from way.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
To go, Paul, No, I snack away on it sort of.
I go in and out to be honest, it's a
big sitting.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Otherwise.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I had a look back when this first started, this
thousand kilometer race one hundred and sixty one laps back
in nineteen sixty. The average speed that the drivers did
over that entire one thousand kilometer distance was ninety six
kilometers an hour. Pass forward sixty five years, these guys
are averaging. This is averaging one hundred and sixty seven
k's on that Panorana circuit. And you know the key
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Wes have done well in recent years. Van Gisbergen's won
twenty two twenty three mcglock from in two nineteen, so yeah,
that's done well. A lot of eyes will be on
young Ryan Wood, just twenty one years of age. He's
he's joined up with Jaden Odisa and that'll be that'll
be tough for those guys because they're young and they're
pretty inexperience when you come up against some of the
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guys likes of cam Water and Will Brown and Brock Feenie.
And he's joined up with Jamie Wincup, who's again probably
been round longer than you and I. So yeah, it's
an interesting date, big weekend of sport. I'm not sure
where you'll be watching it, but I'll be at forsythe
bart Stadium this evening for Otago and let's hope they
can keep their home town winds going.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
In twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Boyl isn't as always outstanding. Thank you very much for
joining us on mccar on sport, get.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Your bucket, head back on Hamish and Bad.
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Speaker 10 (16:07):
And in rural news, Jeremy Clarkson has been forced to
cull the first half born on his Didley Squat farm
after a tuberculosis outbreak. The former Top Gear host posted
a picture of the cow and revealed it had been
pregnant with twins when it caught a bovine tuberculosis and
had to be killed. This was the first half ever
born at Didley Squatt, he wrote on his Instagram, and
this morning she was destroyed while pregnant with twins because
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she has TB. So sad. Another said people have come
forward with their condolences saying so sorry if you're lost,
but no, you did the right thing. Will Another added,
please give this man his farm and the animals are break.
Very sad times for Didley Squat Farm. Over in the
UK and now we've got Hamish with.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Sport, sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yes, those NPC quarter finals this weekend, that first one
up tonight Otago against Whitecadow. The All Whites have gone
down to Poland. Now Poland ranked about fifty places higher
than the all whites in world football. One nil Poland
the winner there. And of course Sunday it's looking like
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the best of the key we hopes will be Matthew Payne,
Matt Payne penright racing for the big race the Mount Panorama,
Bathhurst one thousand, right off your Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There you go, that's sport.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
She gives me calorie Calvary out.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Well it is Boomtown, Billyo across the Tasman Wall. Prices
a big rise over the last week and to look
at this our Australia corresponded Chris Russell, things are going
mad over there, Chris.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Oh homies said, said anything like it for a long time.
But you know, from when I spoke to you last week,
we've gone up one hundred and twelve cents this week
we're now sitting at fifteen sixty five cents that's about
forty percent high at the same time last year, So
everyone's still being very cautious, saying maybe it's too early
to say the sectors turned a corner. But as I
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said last time, when the English went to the Korean
War and had all their uniforms made, we had the
wall boom, while the Chinese must be preparing for something
because they're buying uniforms, so that's obviously stimulating this. Plus
of course we're out of historic loads for our flock size,
certainly over the last thirty or forty years, so that's
not helping. We'll see where we go. It's the time
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they made a few.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Bob Hamish, absolutely, and speaking of making a few bob
process of cows, now getting up close to that four
dollars of kilogram.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yes, this well, this is a record, you know, for
three hundred and ninety cents of kilo. That's the first
time Australian process accounts have ever gone there. And of
course US cattle prices are even higher because they haven't
got any over there. Do you know Hamish that the
heard in the US is currently at the same level
it was in nineteen fifty one. That's where I was
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born and in Canada it's sitting at this level it
was in nineteen eighty nine, so they're not coming back
from there anytime soon. So I think the price that's
going to stay right up there for cattle for a while.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeh, both sides of the Tasman should be able to
take advantage of that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Hey, look round up, something new at last on the
horizon there.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Oh halle Elia, what a great story this has been.
You know, we're so excited. I think we've been everybody's
been looking for a new alternative for rounder because the
round ups had a bit of bad publicity I think
unjustified from far as the data is concerned. But nonetheless
it's there, and yet it's so key to our stubble
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sewing crops and reducing soil conservation issues and so on.
But Baya have just announced the release of a new
weed killer in Australia called like a folan. Now it's
the first chemical of that sort of kills anything that's
green type chemical in thirty odd years. Not only is
it something we can use instead of round up, it's
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also more sensibly something that will help fight resistance to
round up, because once you've got two chemicals. One it
gets resistant to one, you can knock it out with
the other and you can keep oscillating about. And resistance
is such becoming such a big problem with round up.
It's led to a lot of these round up ready crops.
Of course, so of course the lumplication has to go
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through as process now will be lodged with the regulator
in twenty twenty six, already been lodged in the US
and in Europe as well, and I think they're hoping
for having this product of ail from twenty twenty eight.
And all I can say is Holy Grail Halllujah Halleluliah.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Indeed right, Australian wins Nobel Prize for chemistry.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yeah, so this is an interesting story. We're having one
on one of these for a long time. But the
University of Melbourne professor a boat down in Melbourne has
been His name is Michael Richard Robson. Sorry, Professor Richard
Robson has been awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for
creating a very interesting molecular construction without going in all
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the fine detail, which I don't even understand. Of course,
has got these big spaces in it which can make
allow of gases and other chemicals can flow through it.
So they've got you can imagine like a honeycomb, but
an expanded one. Now, the advantage of this is that
you can all of a sudden use it for harvesting
water vapor over deserts, which would normally just carry on
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to somewhere else in the country. You can use a
post to questering carbon out of the air because it's
got so much space inside of it. Think of as
a round ball full of nothing with just a structure
holding it apart, and that's been the key, and then
all those spaces can be taken up with this chemical.
They're saying it's a breakthrough top of technology, be working
on it since nineteen eighty nine and now been recognized
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with a Nobel Chemistry, which is a very significant Hono Homish.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Absolutely the mind boggles.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Fantastic right, the new aboriginal rainstick technology that inspires new
seed germination and vention.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Well, as you know, I've always got a bit of
an eye for this sort of thing, having with my
television innovation program some years ago, and this really caught
my eye because it's based on I always like biomimicry,
but in this case, it's aboriginal mimicry. And they've got
a new startup coming in Cairns, which is combining the
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sort of traditional indigenous knowledge of rain making where they
used to use rain stakes rainsticks to attract thunderstorms in
and create electric fields over the top of whatever they
were growing. So these guys have got hold of this
idea and they've got a secret technology which no one
knows what happens inside the black box, but you basically
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put these seeds inside a box and you have a
thunderstorm creator inside the box, which I imagine is based
on lightning equivalents and so on, and that electric electrostatic
fields changing the molecules of the seeds in some way
so that they actually germinate more completely and more quickly.
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You don't have to handle seeds any differently after that,
but it certainly seems to be giving them bigger root growth,
more rapid vegetative growth, and so generally their early data
looks quite promising. Long way from being on the market yet,
but certainly spending some money on getting it up there,
and I think one hundred million dollars a year that
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they're trying to save in the Canala industry particular with
this new technology with rapidly germinating seed.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Amish fantastic talk about amazing things coming out of the
great Southern Land, Australia.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Corresponding Chris Russell, thank you very.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Much, no worries.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's hill tall and around goal the ag.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
See you out up, cowboy out, cowboy up Caalie Bell
here on the country on your Friday, Himus McKay with
you and for Jamie McKay and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
The next week for a few days as well. Great
to have your company.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well it's time now thanks to Iszuzu for the farmer
and it's a politician farmers panel today Grant McCallum and
Andrew Hoggart on the country.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So is hill to around go the rodeo. But now baby.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
The farmer panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute
built tough with truck DNA.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well Friday or the country.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I guess that's time for a bit of a panel
and two outstanding gentlemen. Mister g McCallum, mister a hoga
join us first, Andrew. I'm just gonna say, how's your hackey?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You are right? You ready to go?
Speaker 7 (25:05):
My harker I haven't done one of those in years.
I'm not since a very drunken trip overseas in my twenties.
But yep, no, I'm all good.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You're all good with it. Uh right, we're about you?
Where about you coming to us from today? IM up in.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
Kidding kidny with the honorable James Mega. We're visiting airports
and ports today, looking at a business which is looking
to develop autonomous flights. But then you go, that was
all happening in the Lower New Zealand. We're leading the
world in some of the stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's great autonomous flight that that that that that No,
I just I can't get my head around that.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But then again, you.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
Don't worry, mate, that's probably my most people. But the
technology is coming along. It will happen one day, mate,
It'll happen one day.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Fantastic, right, Andrew Andrew Hoggard Nestle leaves the climb the
Climate Alliance for Darya mission reductions. It's just some sort
of indication for act wading New Zealand out of the
old Paris Accord.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Well, I think it shows that a lot of people
are really thinking twice about some of these promises. And
I guess virtue signaling. And you know, it's kind of
a point that we're making as to we actually really
need to relok at how this thing's done, focus on
what are the important stuff that needs to be done
In terms of improving farms. The key thing is we
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want to farm more efficiently, not farm less, And some
of these programs and designs are all about farming less,
not more effectively.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, great, what do you That's a good call? Isn't
it efficient? Not less? More efficiently? It makes sense, doesn't it?
Speaker 12 (26:44):
Absolutely? And we've got to keep doing things better. And actually,
but with respect to the whole conversation around emissions and
so forth, all for example, methane and the missions are
wasted energy, wasted energy which were better off going into
producing product, whether it be milk or meat. And so
I think that's a good way to look at this.
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It's been creating our farm, making our farce. This is
more efficient by utilizing the grass better. It's effectively what
we're looking to do.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So we're looking for more efficiency wilding pines. This keeps
popping up and raising its ugly head. Look is this eradication?
Is it going to get government help?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Andrews? Because it clearly needs it needs some sort of
a massive injection. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Well, look it's already the biggest spend in biosecurity on
terms of pests. We put an extra two million in
this year, recently done a burn trial to try and
work out ways we can do it cheaper and more effectively.
And you know Docks also has put more of their
IVL funding into it, so the numbers are increasing. It
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is a big challenge, but you know, money is tight
and we're going to make sure that we're spending it
it's spent effectively. I'll certainly be pushing as much as
I can to try and do the program as fully
as possible. But you know there's an element of we're
going to work out how we can do the smarter.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, Grant, I'd say that this is somewhere where we
haven't got much time because it's a problem that's you know,
going through the roof so to speak.
Speaker 12 (28:20):
Yeah, and the approach that Andrews taking is being on
it's about getting the idealism as realism. But we've got
a real challenge here. And in an ideal world you
wouldn't necessarily burn up do big control burns, but realistically,
in terms of making the dollars go further and get
the outcome which we best for conservation and for the land.
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I think it's one of, for example, sorts of things
gonna be prepared to do. So all power to the
people involved.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yep, we're talking here with our Friday Farmer Political Panel,
missus McCallum and Hoggard gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Just the mood around the country.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I mean, these are heady old days at the sale
Lyards farm gate price and you know, what's the vibe.
Is there confidence for the future or do people sort
of see this as a look, look bank these pennies
while they're coming in kind of mentality, what's what's your feel?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, look, it's a bit of a.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Weird one because everyone's pretty excited around the prices we're getting.
But at the same time we've got a whole bunch
of regional counsels that are doing some crazy things which
is putting a lot of stress and pressure on farmers.
So it's a bit of a mixed bag out there,
you know. I think if we can, hopefully once the
first reading of the new replacement for the RMA happens,
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people will see the new direction things are happening in
and that'll give them a hell of a lot more
confidence about the changes we're making and that they have
a bit more certainty in terms of being able to
invest and know that they're not going to have to
keep jumping through massive hopes every time they want to
change something on their farm.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Great.
Speaker 12 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very similar to that recently last weekend
to visit a the Cannaburary and we had a hall
full of many dairy farmers and arable farmers in Canterbury
and their biggest concern wasn't the profitability of businesses it
was it was actually environment Canterbury and dealing with that
and the rama changes it was causing genuine concern and
(30:17):
being in that room you can feel that you listen
to heart felt stories of farmers genuinely struggling to deal
with the rules and e Can's approach and attitude towards them,
anyone would think they were the enemy.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Of the state.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Well, actually the rural sect that's propping this country up,
and it's time we got that, we got the balance
right and people started to accept that.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, stop speaking so much common sense you too.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
As for e Can, when I talk to now mate
Richard Low or geez, you know that's one guy you
don't want to fire up, but.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I tell you all.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, come on Regional councils etcenta, pull your head and gentlemen,
thank you very much. Our Friday Farmer Political Panel here
on the country. Okay, it is fourteen minutes away from
one o'clock. Time flies when you're having fun our panel there,
Grant McCallum Andrew Hogart, thanks to Isuzu bringing you there,
(31:14):
the Farmer Politician panel there right now. Coming up next
on the show, we are going to talk this excellent,
excellent initiative through ravens Down called Agnition, that is next
on the country. Lucky well, nothing better than a bit
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of agritech chat on a Friday now, Yes, but Van
Helder see of Agnition. This is Ravensdown's ag Tech Accelerator
works alongside the cooperative to deliver smarter farming for a
better New Zealand, driven by passion to see agriculture succeed
through innovation. Rigorous sort of things going on behind here.
(32:11):
So we're going to talk to yes but now yes,
thanks for joining us. What part of the country do
we find you in today?
Speaker 13 (32:18):
Beautiful Southland today, the.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Beautiful Southland hard to beat on a good day.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Okay, Look what exactly is is the Farm Innovation Network.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Yeah, no, thank you. As you mentioned admission is the
investment arm of Ravens Down and our job is to
scout for the best ideas from around the world that
can help farmers here in New Zealand. So every year
we look at about two hundred three hundred new innovations.
And when we started doing this two years ago, we
found that something important is missing in our sector. There
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is just a big gap between clever ideas and what
actually works on farm too. Many great innovators don't really
understand farming and many farmers don't have the time to
keep up with all the new tech. So we decided
to build a bridge between the two and that's how
the Farm Innovation Network was born.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Okay, in terms of Agritic innovation, how we measuring up?
Are we punching above? Are whiteen some great results coming through?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (33:18):
Absolutely, absolutely, We're We're doing a lot well. At the
same time, there's so much more happening overseas than that
we do domestically that we see it as our role
to look over and beyond what we find in New Zealand.
So what we do with the Farm Innovation Network is
that we look for exciting new technologies, often before they're
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out on the market, and we offer them to a
group of our curious farmers that grows to try out.
So you can think of them as beta testers, but
we call them our pilot farmers. And those pilot farmers
they get access to new actech and they tested out
in real conditions and they give all their feedback to
our innovators. And the feedback is gold because that helps
shape the the real world condisions and speeds up how
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fast it can be used across the sector.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I guess you could call it sort of a match
making an agricultural heaven. Isn't it getting the you know,
getting the connecting the farmers to the innovators and coming
out with a marveless result.
Speaker 13 (34:17):
A hundred percent? Yeah, We're almost like a dating agency,
isn't it? So that we've all found about five hundred
farmers and growers and industry contract contexts and they you know,
they cover everything from dairy and livestock to horticulture and arable.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Okay, so I've got a great idea, should I have
a great idea or you know, and want to get
it to that on farm trial.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
How does it? Is it sort of a dragon's dan
type situation to get to get to the next stage,
to get on farm.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
Yeah, we see listen, we see a lot of great ideas,
but they rarely make it from the let's say, from
the kitchen table to the board table. So you would
need to do a bit more homework and and get
asks you some thing that works before we can trial
it out. But what we now do is we do
the opposite. So innovators we overseas know how to find us,
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because if you look at the agritecht scene globally, quite
a few innovators are from outside the sector and what
they struggle with is actually getting to real farmers. And
so we said, overseas, we roll out the red carpety
in New Zealand, come to us. We will educate you
on our system, on our farmers, on our soil so
that you can adapt. But then when it's shelf ready,
(35:31):
come to us. So that's what we're doing now. On
the Wednesday, the twenty ninth, we have our webinar running.
It's kind of like a shark tank innovation session. It's
a bit of it's fast space, it's a bit of fun.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
It's free.
Speaker 13 (35:44):
You can just head up to Farm Innovation Network codas
have to sign up.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Fantastic bag succeed story that you can tell us about
sci fi.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yes, what.
Speaker 13 (35:55):
Our one good one that we particularly like because he's
from New Zealand, amor farming. Not sure if if you've
heard about them, but they it's basically an affordable way
to the past your measurement differently and the founder was
a farmer, spotted a gap in the market, build a
technology and we've been backing him ever since. For instance,
(36:19):
you take your phone out, you scan your your FedEx
and the algorithm in the background tellership where you should
go for the highest yield. Amazing story and they're now going.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Overseas amazing all round. That is yesper from agnition. Gee
love that sort of thing going on. Let's say four
or five hundred farms involved in this and all sorts
of ideas absolutely brilliant right as you will be well
aware it's a mental health aware in this weekend the
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
Righty ho yeah gee. MPC quarterfinals this weekend, looking forward
to a bit of.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Telly time checking into those Bathhurst taking it right off
another Sunday, I had a great drive around batheurist once
and Evolvo round the mighty Mount Panorama. It was a
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ninety eighty three. She was a bit more basic Mount
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and what a great stat from Paul Allison.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
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Speaker 4 (37:58):
Than what they did sort of thirty forty fifty years
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Speaker 2 (38:04):
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and his mental health story.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
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joins me for McKay on Sport, Our trans Tasman corresponding
Chris Russell and Agritech Leader Yes Van Helder of agg Nition.
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But first up Hugh Jackson, Young Farmer of the Year
and his mental health.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Story live.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Looking out for our farmers on the country with Federated
Farmers proud supporters of Mental Health Awareness Week.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Well you're down the King Country today doing a bit
of sort of you know, a little bit of taking
some new information on board.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, happen to look around a few farms down
here who are doing some pretty impressive all finishing and
techno system sort of set ups and looking can implement
some of that home there in Gak. So you're just
trying to figure out what the best way to do
that is and seeing what other people are doing. And
trying to learn from them.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Innovation, Hey, tapping into the resources, fantastic mental health aware
in this week, everybody just will look at you and
got a young, shining star guy with the future and
great future, which is the truth. But you've had your
own journey, Yeah, would you like to you know, I'd
like it if you'd share that with us to the
benefit of others.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah, yeah, No, no worries Hamless. Obviously, everyone goes through
tough spells in life, whatever whatever that may be, and
it looks different for everyone. But I had a few
challenges back in twenty twenty twenty twenty one. For sure,
I was and at my last points depressed on medication.
(03:38):
I used to telepram is the stuff I was taking
and definitely never envisions getting there, but it's just just
how it all sort of turned out and panned out.
On reflection, I've done done a lot of learning since then,
and it's helped me to stay fit and well of
(04:00):
time since then. But I've still had periods, especially going
into winter in that where I get get times that
i feel like I've got less energy and things are
tougher than they they should be. But upon reflection, what
really got me into some trouble was really my own
internal battle and expectations putting them on myself that are
(04:24):
probably too high and until we all our own worst
critic at times, and I was spedding myself up, and
I could only see the negatives really and as as
humans were geared, only to see the negatives a lot
stronger than the positives due to back in the day
when we're running around and the predators would you know,
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in fact skirts or whatever, and there's predators out there
that would would eat us if we weren't good that way.
So learning about all that was was really really key
for me. But it doesn't I doesn't discriminate, and even
though it's fit and healthy at the time, still still
definitely was haunted by the black dog and felt like
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I didn't really have any reason to be depressed, but.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But I did.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
And I vividly remember I was working with Darians at
the time and they were great support if you support networking,
got counseling, and they're vividly remember driving back from Eshbred
into christ it's just thinking what would happen if I
ran into the oncoming truck, you know, because and I
could see and why people do take their lives, and
(05:35):
the suicide is a real thing and it really happens.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I'm going to get yep.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I want to ask you what age were you when
this when the when the black dog you referred to said, and.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What age were you?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Twenty one two?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So what were you like through later years of primary school,
high school?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
What were your moods like, what we what were.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
There any telltale signs that would I have ever pointed
out to you that you were going to end up
in that space.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I didn't really experience anything like it until entering the workforce,
to be honest, and we've been pretty energetic and keen
to get into things and give everything my all. And
it was probably the fact, you know, at UNI, I
was working hard at Yuni doing my UNI work, and
then I'd go away on holidays and work hard on
the farms and that I was working on, and you'd
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have that break. I guess it was just kind of
like a forced break. But then you head to the
workforce and it's a bit of a different beast.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Really.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
It's you start on Monday, finish on Friday. If you're
in a seven day, five day a week job and
farming a different beast altogether as well in your hands
on and on the tool. So just probably the fact
that yeah, burn out to little thing and you've got
to look after yourself and do that. But for me,
the keys getting out of it was a lot of education.
(06:53):
John Kerwin's book was massive. Nathan Nelson from Baron Zed
really helped me there by giving me that book, and
into that a lot came Brisco as well as huge. Yeah,
really cool book as well, and yeah, just learning learning
about how the brain works and all that sort of
it was massive.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I love that. I love Cane story.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Just going in and hammering the bags, you know, I
just felt, you know, in the evening and suddenly things
started to change physiologically, psychologically, everything, just by just going
in there at night and just hitting the bags. You know, Like, so,
what can you give me? I know you do a
lot of reading and you can do all that, but
what's what's one or two things you put into your
day to make sure the black dog doesn't start barking
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reel out again.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I guess just the basics first, eating, sleeping well is key,
and looking after yourself, sitting yourself up for success with
that good foundation. And then talking talking to people and
when you're having those challenges and struggles and making a
plan when the pressure comes on, and writing things down,
(08:00):
prioritizing and realizing and sort of asking yourself, what's the
least or the minimum I have to do today when
you were in those pressure cooker environments, to sort of
try and focus on what needs doing and what can
wait to another day.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Kicks and balances right here, checks and balances. Always keeping
an eye on yourself.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
And obviously you need to keep yourself physically feather as
well and do all that too. But yeah, talking with
others and making a plan and keeping yourself on checkers
is yeah, one hundred percent the way to go.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Young Farmer of the year, a man who's beaten off
the depression. And you had those horrible thoughts while you're
driving on the road there, which and we know you're
not the lone range of there.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You thank you very much for sharing your story.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
We'll let you get back to starting those bull beef
systems down there in the king Country.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Much appreciate it, right, so much so.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
A good weekend and to me, that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Master tar bad.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Birdst feeling love is drown in Southern Ground.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yes this is the country coming up to nineteen minutes
after midday, standing by to talk a bit of sport
now with the Voice of the South Paul Allison. I
love it and Paul on because he's somebody who understands stats.
He understands has a great base knowledge of all sports,
but also understands what side entry at the breakdown is
(09:35):
and what boring in is at the scrum and what
actually afford passes, so you know, walks and talks radio.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It is time for.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
McKay on sport with farm Lands. You get ahead of
the game this summer.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Paul Allison.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Welcome on to the country, sir, and looking forward to
a big weekend of Bunnings in PC action.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
You get a Hamish. It's great they have one mackay
replaced and other, isn't it on the country. Yeah, it's
a big weekend all right, and it's hard to pick
these guys, these matches that we've got in front of us.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Kicks off to night ten pass seven.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Not sure why it's five minutes later than the normal
kickoff time, because maybe they'll be waiting for a big
crowd to roll and down at Forsyth Bar Stadium when
Otago take on this afternoon, the waycat out the mighty
mulop and they've been boosted so much with the three
you know, come all backs coming back into the mix
with Jacobson and Leonard Brown and also Sammer Penny Fenale.
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That'll make a bit of a difference. But they haven't
been with the guys for very long because a couple
of the money just come back from Perth last week,
so that'll be an interesting match.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
I think that'll be close.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
And then of course we kick off tomorrow afternoon when
we get into things in the second of the quarter
finals by a Plenty against Tasman at ten pass four
and then tomorrow evening Hawks Bay against Taranaki. Interesting when
these two teams met earlier on Taranaki beat Hawks Bay
and Bay a Plenty beat Tasman. But this Tasman site
looks really good in the back line that they've got,
but they've just been patchy this year. They just have
(11:00):
really been consistent enough. And when you look at players
likes of Moua in there and back A Springer and
David Harveli and Tamufalao on the back line, they've got
plenty of talent to burn, but whether or not they
can execute it against what will be a pretty challenging
match against the Bay. So yeah, some interesting matches this weekend.
I'm sure that'll create a lot of interest as we
count down to next weekend with a semis.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, absolutely, Tigo have been to the manor Born this season.
They look like they're a contender all the way. White
Kadow by the hair on their chinny chin chin and
lost to got hammered by the likes of matter were two,
so I would have thought there's one result only possible.
But as you say, White Katto strengthened. But you'd have
faith in Otago to do this with in your Paul,
I think that they should get this by twelve plus.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
I think it'll be closer than that. I think it'll
be pretty much right down to the wire. Don't underestimate
this White Catto side. They've got a thirty six year
old bloke wearing the number ten jersey called Cruden who's
been around longer than you and I just about a
mush to be fair.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
The Otago side, look, they've been consistent this year. Where
is Whitekattow?
Speaker 8 (11:58):
They had a what a one point win against Auckland,
at one point win against Counties, a one point win
against Taranaki and a one point win against North Harbors.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
They haven't won convincingly.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
This year, but Otago they've wiped the floor on a
couple of teams, including Auckland last week when they absolutely
ran up that record score from the all time history
of Otago rugby against Auckland.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
So they've done well.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
We've got a couple of young guys that really have
stood out. Dylan pledged of this young twenty year old
halfback who's been a member of the under twenty team,
vice captain for the for the basically the Baby Blacks,
and Lucas Casey, still only in his second season of
rugby as an open side flanker.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
These two have been really good.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
But it's the players right across the paddock that's been
Otago's success this year. They've been consistent, they've done things right,
they've been well coached and they haven't had too many injuries.
And so I don't think twelve plus.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I'm not going that. I'll go twelve and under.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay Hawks Bay Taranaki. You know both both you know, contenders,
a little bit of up and down stuff, but I yeah,
look like home at Vartage probably for me in that one.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Yeah, I think you're probably right, as I said Taranaki
turned the tables earlier on in the yeir but Hawks
Bay at home they are pretty dangerous and this is
two good sides. I mean when you look at these
and the way that the competition has panned out this year,
you could almost say that any team's got a chance.
I think Counties Madecow is probably the biggest outsider at
the stage and I would imagine they will struggle against
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Canterbury who are hidden hitting their straps as they have
pretty much throughout most of the season apart from they
lost a shield and went to extra time against Northland.
But you know that's the good matchups and you know
Bay have plenty Tasman Hawks by Taranaki, I don't know
which way either of them will go. Maybe hometown advantage,
but again just don't underestimate that Tasman backline right exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Counties Madecaos you say, come home with the wet sale,
but Canterbury to win that one. All Black's just out
of ten for the season to day, Paul, what's you
taking solid six?
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Maybe maybe touching seven can't get above the seven Hamish
to be fair, I mean they've been inconsistent. They haven't
played that wide, enterprising, attacking style of rugby that Razor
had hoped that they might when he announced his squad
at the start of the season. They lost that test
in Argentina, which I was there for, and they just
haven't been dominant enough.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
I mean, they got a win last.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Week in Perth and that was a bit of a
redeeming factor for them because they're able to win two
matches in a row.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
But they just haven't been consistent enough.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Sure, they've had some injuries, but they need to be
better and the Northern Tour will be a good test
for them.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Okay, and finally, Sunday, Big Day Mount Pandorama Bathhurst. Do
you sort of take the Sunday out of the diary
and watch it from way.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
To go, Paul, No, I snack away on it sort of.
I go in and out to be honest, it's a
big sitting.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Otherwise.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I had a look back when this first started, this
thousand kilometer race one hundred and sixty one laps back
in nineteen sixty. The average speed that the drivers did
over that entire one thousand kilometer distance was ninety six
kilometers an hour. Pass forward sixty five years, these guys
are averaging. This is averaging one hundred and sixty seven
k's on that Panorana circuit. And you know the key
(14:52):
Wes have done well in recent years. Van Gisbergen's won
twenty two twenty three mcglock from in two nineteen, so yeah,
that's done well. A lot of eyes will be on
young Ryan Wood, just twenty one years of age. He's
he's joined up with Jaden Odisa and that'll be that'll
be tough for those guys because they're young and they're
pretty inexperience when you come up against some of the
(15:14):
guys likes of cam Water and Will Brown and Brock Feenie.
And he's joined up with Jamie Wincup, who's again probably
been round longer than you and I. So yeah, it's
an interesting date, big weekend of sport. I'm not sure
where you'll be watching it, but I'll be at forsythe
bart Stadium this evening for Otago and let's hope they
can keep their home town winds going.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
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And in rural news, Jeremy Clarkson has been forced to
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she has TB. So sad. Another said people have come
forward with their condolences saying so sorry if you're lost,
but no, you did the right thing. Will Another added,
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Very sad times for Didley Squat Farm. Over in the
UK and now we've got Hamish with.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Sport, sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yes, those NPC quarter finals this weekend, that first one
up tonight Otago against Whitecadow. The All Whites have gone
down to Poland. Now Poland ranked about fifty places higher
than the all whites in world football. One nil Poland
the winner there. And of course Sunday it's looking like
(17:13):
the best of the key we hopes will be Matthew Payne,
Matt Payne penright racing for the big race the Mount Panorama,
Bathhurst one thousand, right off your Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There you go, that's sport.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
She gives me calorie Calvary out.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Well it is Boomtown, Billyo across the Tasman Wall. Prices
a big rise over the last week and to look
at this our Australia corresponded Chris Russell, things are going
mad over there, Chris.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Oh homies said, said anything like it for a long time.
But you know, from when I spoke to you last week,
we've gone up one hundred and twelve cents this week
we're now sitting at fifteen sixty five cents that's about
forty percent high at the same time last year, So
everyone's still being very cautious, saying maybe it's too early
to say the sectors turned a corner. But as I
(18:13):
said last time, when the English went to the Korean
War and had all their uniforms made, we had the
wall boom, while the Chinese must be preparing for something
because they're buying uniforms, so that's obviously stimulating this. Plus
of course we're out of historic loads for our flock size,
certainly over the last thirty or forty years, so that's
not helping. We'll see where we go. It's the time
(18:35):
they made a few.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Bob Hamish, absolutely, and speaking of making a few bob
process of cows, now getting up close to that four
dollars of kilogram.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yes, this well, this is a record, you know, for
three hundred and ninety cents of kilo. That's the first
time Australian process accounts have ever gone there. And of
course US cattle prices are even higher because they haven't
got any over there. Do you know Hamish that the
heard in the US is currently at the same level
it was in nineteen fifty one. That's where I was
(19:06):
born and in Canada it's sitting at this level it
was in nineteen eighty nine, so they're not coming back
from there anytime soon. So I think the price that's
going to stay right up there for cattle for a while.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeh, both sides of the Tasman should be able to
take advantage of that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Hey, look round up, something new at last on the
horizon there.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Oh halle Elia, what a great story this has been.
You know, we're so excited. I think we've been everybody's
been looking for a new alternative for rounder because the
round ups had a bit of bad publicity I think
unjustified from far as the data is concerned. But nonetheless
it's there, and yet it's so key to our stubble
(19:49):
sewing crops and reducing soil conservation issues and so on.
But Baya have just announced the release of a new
weed killer in Australia called like a folan. Now it's
the first chemical of that sort of kills anything that's
green type chemical in thirty odd years. Not only is
it something we can use instead of round up, it's
(20:12):
also more sensibly something that will help fight resistance to
round up, because once you've got two chemicals. One it
gets resistant to one, you can knock it out with
the other and you can keep oscillating about. And resistance
is such becoming such a big problem with round up.
It's led to a lot of these round up ready crops.
Of course, so of course the lumplication has to go
(20:32):
through as process now will be lodged with the regulator
in twenty twenty six, already been lodged in the US
and in Europe as well, and I think they're hoping
for having this product of ail from twenty twenty eight.
And all I can say is Holy Grail Halllujah Halleluliah.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Indeed right, Australian wins Nobel Prize for chemistry.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yeah, so this is an interesting story. We're having one
on one of these for a long time. But the
University of Melbourne professor a boat down in Melbourne has
been His name is Michael Richard Robson. Sorry, Professor Richard
Robson has been awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for
creating a very interesting molecular construction without going in all
(21:13):
the fine detail, which I don't even understand. Of course,
has got these big spaces in it which can make
allow of gases and other chemicals can flow through it.
So they've got you can imagine like a honeycomb, but
an expanded one. Now, the advantage of this is that
you can all of a sudden use it for harvesting
water vapor over deserts, which would normally just carry on
(21:35):
to somewhere else in the country. You can use a
post to questering carbon out of the air because it's
got so much space inside of it. Think of as
a round ball full of nothing with just a structure
holding it apart, and that's been the key, and then
all those spaces can be taken up with this chemical.
They're saying it's a breakthrough top of technology, be working
on it since nineteen eighty nine and now been recognized
(21:58):
with a Nobel Chemistry, which is a very significant Hono Homish.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Absolutely the mind boggles.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Fantastic right, the new aboriginal rainstick technology that inspires new
seed germination and vention.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Well, as you know, I've always got a bit of
an eye for this sort of thing, having with my
television innovation program some years ago, and this really caught
my eye because it's based on I always like biomimicry,
but in this case, it's aboriginal mimicry. And they've got
a new startup coming in Cairns, which is combining the
(22:36):
sort of traditional indigenous knowledge of rain making where they
used to use rain stakes rainsticks to attract thunderstorms in
and create electric fields over the top of whatever they
were growing. So these guys have got hold of this
idea and they've got a secret technology which no one
knows what happens inside the black box, but you basically
(22:57):
put these seeds inside a box and you have a
thunderstorm creator inside the box, which I imagine is based
on lightning equivalents and so on, and that electric electrostatic
fields changing the molecules of the seeds in some way
so that they actually germinate more completely and more quickly.
(23:18):
You don't have to handle seeds any differently after that,
but it certainly seems to be giving them bigger root growth,
more rapid vegetative growth, and so generally their early data
looks quite promising. Long way from being on the market yet,
but certainly spending some money on getting it up there,
and I think one hundred million dollars a year that
(23:39):
they're trying to save in the Canala industry particular with
this new technology with rapidly germinating seed.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Amish fantastic talk about amazing things coming out of the
great Southern Land, Australia.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Corresponding Chris Russell, thank you very.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Much, no worries.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's hill tall and around goal the ag.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
See you out up, cowboy out, cowboy up Caalie Bell
here on the country on your Friday, Himus McKay with
you and for Jamie McKay and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
The next week for a few days as well. Great
to have your company.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well it's time now thanks to Iszuzu for the farmer
and it's a politician farmers panel today Grant McCallum and
Andrew Hoggart on the country.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So is hill to around go the rodeo. But now baby.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
The farmer panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute
built tough with truck DNA.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well Friday or the country.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I guess that's time for a bit of a panel
and two outstanding gentlemen. Mister g McCallum, mister a hoga
join us first, Andrew. I'm just gonna say, how's your hackey?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You are right? You ready to go?
Speaker 7 (25:05):
My harker I haven't done one of those in years.
I'm not since a very drunken trip overseas in my twenties.
But yep, no, I'm all good.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You're all good with it. Uh right, we're about you?
Where about you coming to us from today? IM up in.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
Kidding kidny with the honorable James Mega. We're visiting airports
and ports today, looking at a business which is looking
to develop autonomous flights. But then you go, that was
all happening in the Lower New Zealand. We're leading the
world in some of the stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's great autonomous flight that that that that that No,
I just I can't get my head around that.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But then again, you.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
Don't worry, mate, that's probably my most people. But the
technology is coming along. It will happen one day, mate,
It'll happen one day.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Fantastic, right, Andrew Andrew Hoggard Nestle leaves the climb the
Climate Alliance for Darya mission reductions. It's just some sort
of indication for act wading New Zealand out of the
old Paris Accord.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Well, I think it shows that a lot of people
are really thinking twice about some of these promises. And
I guess virtue signaling. And you know, it's kind of
a point that we're making as to we actually really
need to relok at how this thing's done, focus on
what are the important stuff that needs to be done
In terms of improving farms. The key thing is we
(26:28):
want to farm more efficiently, not farm less, And some
of these programs and designs are all about farming less,
not more effectively.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, great, what do you That's a good call? Isn't
it efficient? Not less? More efficiently? It makes sense, doesn't it?
Speaker 12 (26:44):
Absolutely? And we've got to keep doing things better. And actually,
but with respect to the whole conversation around emissions and
so forth, all for example, methane and the missions are
wasted energy, wasted energy which were better off going into
producing product, whether it be milk or meat. And so
I think that's a good way to look at this.
(27:05):
It's been creating our farm, making our farce. This is
more efficient by utilizing the grass better. It's effectively what
we're looking to do.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So we're looking for more efficiency wilding pines. This keeps
popping up and raising its ugly head. Look is this eradication?
Is it going to get government help?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Andrews? Because it clearly needs it needs some sort of
a massive injection. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Well, look it's already the biggest spend in biosecurity on
terms of pests. We put an extra two million in
this year, recently done a burn trial to try and
work out ways we can do it cheaper and more effectively.
And you know Docks also has put more of their
IVL funding into it, so the numbers are increasing. It
(27:52):
is a big challenge, but you know, money is tight
and we're going to make sure that we're spending it
it's spent effectively. I'll certainly be pushing as much as
I can to try and do the program as fully
as possible. But you know there's an element of we're
going to work out how we can do the smarter.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, Grant, I'd say that this is somewhere where we
haven't got much time because it's a problem that's you know,
going through the roof so to speak.
Speaker 12 (28:20):
Yeah, and the approach that Andrews taking is being on
it's about getting the idealism as realism. But we've got
a real challenge here. And in an ideal world you
wouldn't necessarily burn up do big control burns, but realistically,
in terms of making the dollars go further and get
the outcome which we best for conservation and for the land.
(28:42):
I think it's one of, for example, sorts of things
gonna be prepared to do. So all power to the
people involved.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yep, we're talking here with our Friday Farmer Political Panel,
missus McCallum and Hoggard gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Just the mood around the country.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I mean, these are heady old days at the sale
Lyards farm gate price and you know, what's the vibe.
Is there confidence for the future or do people sort
of see this as a look, look bank these pennies
while they're coming in kind of mentality, what's what's your feel?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, look, it's a bit of a.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Weird one because everyone's pretty excited around the prices we're getting.
But at the same time we've got a whole bunch
of regional counsels that are doing some crazy things which
is putting a lot of stress and pressure on farmers.
So it's a bit of a mixed bag out there,
you know. I think if we can, hopefully once the
first reading of the new replacement for the RMA happens,
(29:36):
people will see the new direction things are happening in
and that'll give them a hell of a lot more
confidence about the changes we're making and that they have
a bit more certainty in terms of being able to
invest and know that they're not going to have to
keep jumping through massive hopes every time they want to
change something on their farm.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Great.
Speaker 12 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very similar to that recently last weekend
to visit a the Cannaburary and we had a hall
full of many dairy farmers and arable farmers in Canterbury
and their biggest concern wasn't the profitability of businesses it
was it was actually environment Canterbury and dealing with that
and the rama changes it was causing genuine concern and
(30:17):
being in that room you can feel that you listen
to heart felt stories of farmers genuinely struggling to deal
with the rules and e Can's approach and attitude towards them,
anyone would think they were the enemy.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Of the state.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Well, actually the rural sect that's propping this country up,
and it's time we got that, we got the balance
right and people started to accept that.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, stop speaking so much common sense you too.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
As for e Can, when I talk to now mate
Richard Low or geez, you know that's one guy you
don't want to fire up, but.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I tell you all.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, come on Regional councils etcenta, pull your head and gentlemen,
thank you very much. Our Friday Farmer Political Panel here
on the country. Okay, it is fourteen minutes away from
one o'clock. Time flies when you're having fun our panel there,
Grant McCallum Andrew Hogart, thanks to Isuzu bringing you there,
(31:14):
the Farmer Politician panel there right now. Coming up next
on the show, we are going to talk this excellent,
excellent initiative through ravens Down called Agnition, that is next
on the country. Lucky well, nothing better than a bit
(31:47):
of agritech chat on a Friday now, Yes, but Van
Helder see of Agnition. This is Ravensdown's ag Tech Accelerator
works alongside the cooperative to deliver smarter farming for a
better New Zealand, driven by passion to see agriculture succeed
through innovation. Rigorous sort of things going on behind here.
(32:11):
So we're going to talk to yes but now yes,
thanks for joining us. What part of the country do
we find you in today?
Speaker 13 (32:18):
Beautiful Southland today, the.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Beautiful Southland hard to beat on a good day.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Okay, Look what exactly is is the Farm Innovation Network.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Yeah, no, thank you. As you mentioned admission is the
investment arm of Ravens Down and our job is to
scout for the best ideas from around the world that
can help farmers here in New Zealand. So every year
we look at about two hundred three hundred new innovations.
And when we started doing this two years ago, we
found that something important is missing in our sector. There
(32:50):
is just a big gap between clever ideas and what
actually works on farm too. Many great innovators don't really
understand farming and many farmers don't have the time to
keep up with all the new tech. So we decided
to build a bridge between the two and that's how
the Farm Innovation Network was born.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Okay, in terms of Agritic innovation, how we measuring up?
Are we punching above? Are whiteen some great results coming through?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (33:18):
Absolutely, absolutely, We're We're doing a lot well. At the
same time, there's so much more happening overseas than that
we do domestically that we see it as our role
to look over and beyond what we find in New Zealand.
So what we do with the Farm Innovation Network is
that we look for exciting new technologies, often before they're
(33:40):
out on the market, and we offer them to a
group of our curious farmers that grows to try out.
So you can think of them as beta testers, but
we call them our pilot farmers. And those pilot farmers
they get access to new actech and they tested out
in real conditions and they give all their feedback to
our innovators. And the feedback is gold because that helps
shape the the real world condisions and speeds up how
(34:02):
fast it can be used across the sector.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I guess you could call it sort of a match
making an agricultural heaven. Isn't it getting the you know,
getting the connecting the farmers to the innovators and coming
out with a marveless result.
Speaker 13 (34:17):
A hundred percent? Yeah, We're almost like a dating agency,
isn't it? So that we've all found about five hundred
farmers and growers and industry contract contexts and they you know,
they cover everything from dairy and livestock to horticulture and arable.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Okay, so I've got a great idea, should I have
a great idea or you know, and want to get
it to that on farm trial.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
How does it? Is it sort of a dragon's dan
type situation to get to get to the next stage,
to get on farm.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
Yeah, we see listen, we see a lot of great ideas,
but they rarely make it from the let's say, from
the kitchen table to the board table. So you would
need to do a bit more homework and and get
asks you some thing that works before we can trial
it out. But what we now do is we do
the opposite. So innovators we overseas know how to find us,
(35:09):
because if you look at the agritecht scene globally, quite
a few innovators are from outside the sector and what
they struggle with is actually getting to real farmers. And
so we said, overseas, we roll out the red carpety
in New Zealand, come to us. We will educate you
on our system, on our farmers, on our soil so
that you can adapt. But then when it's shelf ready,
(35:31):
come to us. So that's what we're doing now. On
the Wednesday, the twenty ninth, we have our webinar running.
It's kind of like a shark tank innovation session. It's
a bit of it's fast space, it's a bit of fun.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
It's free.
Speaker 13 (35:44):
You can just head up to Farm Innovation Network codas
have to sign up.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Fantastic bag succeed story that you can tell us about
sci fi.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yes, what.
Speaker 13 (35:55):
Our one good one that we particularly like because he's
from New Zealand, amor farming. Not sure if if you've
heard about them, but they it's basically an affordable way
to the past your measurement differently and the founder was
a farmer, spotted a gap in the market, build a
technology and we've been backing him ever since. For instance,
(36:19):
you take your phone out, you scan your your FedEx
and the algorithm in the background tellership where you should
go for the highest yield. Amazing story and they're now going.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Overseas amazing all round. That is yesper from agnition. Gee
love that sort of thing going on. Let's say four
or five hundred farms involved in this and all sorts
of ideas absolutely brilliant right as you will be well
aware it's a mental health aware in this weekend the
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
Righty ho yeah gee. MPC quarterfinals this weekend, looking forward
to a bit of.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Telly time checking into those Bathhurst taking it right off
another Sunday, I had a great drive around batheurist once
and Evolvo round the mighty Mount Panorama. It was a
fifty six seater Parmers North Boys High School first fifteen
ninety eighty three. She was a bit more basic Mount
Panorama on those days, but it is the great race
(37:54):
and what a great stat from Paul Allison.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
They go about one hundred kilometers an hour faster in our.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Than what they did sort of thirty forty fifty years
ago and all sort of kicked off righty.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
This has been the Country, will do it all again
next week.
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