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October 16, 2025 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Jo Luxton, Christopher Luxon, Sandra Faulkner, Toby Williams, Neville Clark, Rick Ladd, Dean Quinn, and Ben Humphrey.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch you're the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
A little too long, I've been when on a drama
to kick off a comeback, I've been when knowing I
get down out a.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Change, get a New Zealand and welcome to the Country.
We're live at the gisbon amp Show. Believe it or not,
they've had one hundred and fifty of these. It is
the one hundred and fiftieth Gisbone am P show. Now,
the Prime Minister, Christopher Luxen, was supposedly going to kick
off the show, but I noticed he had time for

(00:47):
a lesser rural broadcaster this morning who shall remain unnamed.
But he hasn't turned up on time, so we'll sort
him out. We'll just get the opposition to kick off
the show. And she's a bit of a local these
days here in Gisbine is Joe Luxton, Labour's egg spokesperson.
I wonder when we'll get some egg policy, Joe. But
thank you for filling in for the Prime Minister, because

(01:07):
you realize my old mate Grant McCullum standing over there
and he is champing at the bit or is it
chomping at the bit to get on air and fill
in for the Prime minister. But I thought you were
a better option.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Absolutely thank you and if you're not fast, your last.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Right, absolutely so. Mid Canterbury formerly used to be the
local MP down there. These days you're a list MP
and you're up here. Yeah, yes, this is coming home
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's coming home. I grew up here, so it's lovely
to really love you to be home being back since
February and this AMP show was one of the favorites.
You know, as a young person growing up, always went
home sunburnt though, hence the sunscreen.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, I've got the Joe Luxton branded sunscreen. I might
have to put some on. It's a beautiful day here
in kidsman. I've heard varying stories about this show. Someone
told me this morning there's forty thousand people in this region.
Thirty thousand of them come through the gates over the
next two days today and tomorrow. I guess some of
them are some of them are repeat offenders, as it were,

(02:05):
turning up on a Friday and a Saturday. But that's
an amazing stat isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
It's febuless and it just speaks to how amazing the
show is. In your one hundred and fifty years is
pretty special.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
All right, Oh, the Prime minister. The Prime Minister's arrived, right,
But because he was giving me a bit of stick
this morning about on a lesser broadcaster show, he'll he'll
have to wait his turn for a minit right, No,
that's right. But talking about waiting, shoe, I'm waiting. I'm
really waiting for some lag lag. Let's try that again,
some labor ag policy, because there's been a real lag

(02:37):
there hasn't been any.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Well, we're probably at the same place that we were
in National was in opposition to Jamie. So we will
release policy, I promise you. But we've got plenty of
time before the election.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
To do so.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, what did you make of the big announcement over
the past Was it last week or it was Sunday?
I think I've been out of the country. You've got
to excuse me. I'm trying to catch up on all
this on the reduced emissions targets, Like instead of twenty
four to forty seven percent by twenty fifty, we are
now fourteen to twenty four. That seems much more reasonable

(03:08):
and sane and fair and sustainable.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's certainly a big change to what had been agreed
unanimously except for Act in Parliament a while ago. We're
really keen to see and understand the advice and evidence
that the government has received in order to come to
this decision. We are really keen to work in a
bipartisan way. We did ask for a meeting with Minister

(03:32):
Maclay and Minister Watts, had a meeting with them to
ask where things were at with a genuine offer of
working in a bipartisanship way. They said at the time,
this is back in I think July. They said, oh,
we're still working through things, haven't taken anything to cabinet
lot we'll come back to you in a couple of weeks.
We got a phone call on Sunday just before the announcement,

(03:53):
so that's not consultation and that's not working in bipartisanship. However,
we did go back after that meeting and say, look,
we will work with you with what you decide as
long as you don't change the legislation. So they've changed
the legislation, so we do need to see and understand
the advice before we take it.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
From a personal point of view, do you agree that
these new emissions targets are much more sensible and realistic. Look,
I'm not the issue.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
I'm not a signed You.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
You wander around the country, you talk to farmers, you're
the egg spokesperson. It's your job to know this and
have an opinion on it. So what is your opinion.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I don't think they're particularly aspirational, and I do have
some concerns around how this will be viewed overseas, where
we do send all of most of our product too,
and people overseas and companies overseas are requiring more and
more in the way of emissions reductions, So I am
a little bit concerned about it from that perspective.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
What does the rest of the day hold for you?
Joe Luxton coming home coming?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Oh, well, we've got a stall here inside, so I'll
be at the stall. I'll be here for a couple
of days, both days, and we're just going to be
getting out and having y X and yarns to people
want to be really good.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Okay, Hey, lovely to meet you again, not to meet you,
of course I've met you. Thank you for the Joe
Luxton sunscreen, so so better than late the Prime Minister
has turned up. That was excellent. She did a very
excellent job kicking off the show.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
A great name.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, well you you she's got a tea do you
get people?

Speaker 5 (05:23):
We were just talking about that.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
We were just saying, like, if we go back several generations,
the posh ones got the tea in and the poor
ones didn't.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
So that's what happened. We reckon.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
We're just debating that. So but at some point we
all came from the same place.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
So many people call you Chris Luxton.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
They call me worse names than that, Jamie. Let's be honest.
Let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now, Joe didn't It wasn't that forthcoming on what she
thought of your new emissions target productions She.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Forwid or against it.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I don't think she's got well, she's she was
worried that she didn't actually get much consultation from you guys.
But I want to give you spoke to them before
Todd Clay a pad on the back, because these are
much more sensible and realistic times.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
We said where we do this At the election time,
we said we'd go back and revisit the science, which
we need to do quite regularly. In fact, we've put
another check in and twenty forty as well, because the
science base keeps changing and what we're not going to
do is have our farmers penalized on bad science. So yep,
there's lots of people with advice coming in at us
and we've come back to fourteen to twenty four percent,
and we've also said, look, we actually don't think we

(06:25):
need to introduce agricultural pricing or taxes from twenty thirty
onwards either. And the reason's pretty simple is our farmers
are doing a great job adopting technology that's both lowering
emissions and improving productivity. So if you just think about
if you just took the lic breeding program, the cool
sheet program that's going on at the moment, all of
that is that genetics breeding program has actually got huge
benefit for us on terms of managing our agricultural mission.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
So I think we've got the balance right.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
So we're getting to ten percent by twenty thirty. As
that of Donedal, do you think.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
We're pretty much we're on track for it's real live
and we're going to give it a real hot go.
But I mean we've already made I think four percent
already out of that on the pathway to that ten
and twenty thirty. What we're talking about here is fourteen
to twenty four by twenty fifty, So we can certainly.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Nail that given the adoption of technology.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
We see what happens if we don't reach these emissions targets.
All we get is a slap over the risk with
the wet bus ticket.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Well we don't.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
I mean, the way we've looked at it is like
you've got things like methane vaccines, you've got bowllesses, you've
got eco ponds, you've got the breeding program. We only
need one of those things to come off. And we've
got four hundred million dollars invested in that, in that
innovation with industry alongside government now and something called agri zero.
So to be honest to me, I'm really confident we're
going to deliver it. And the history of farming in

(07:42):
New Zealand you don't farm the same way you did
thirty years ago today, and we wanted thirty years time.
And our guys are good at adopting new technology, and
I think we can do both. I think we can
improve the efficiency, productivity, profitability out of our farms and
at the same time loura emissions. Ye science as common
preside sense.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Should politicians, namely Winston be meddling in the likes of
commercial decisions made by Fonterra and the Alliance grip. He
was on the show yesterday barking, barking and angry about
the fact that Fonterra is going to divest itself from
its consumer brands and that the Alliance Group looks like

(08:23):
it will do a deal with an Irish company and
effectively seed control to them.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Can I be really honest? I reckon farmers are sick
of politicians telling them what to do. I reckon farmers.
It's their livelihood, it's their businesses. They're smart, they don't
know what to do. I trust the farmers to work
out what they want to do about those issues.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Why don't you Inston to be quiet?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well?

Speaker 5 (08:40):
As title to his views, I've got a different view.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
If you want to ask me on my view on Fonterra,
be pretty clear.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
I think the margins and a consumer goods business are
infinitely lower than the margins in a.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Food service or an ingredients business.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
The shift that you've seen Myles Harrel and Fonterra do
over recent years, and why it's even more profitable. It
is because they're going after higher margin products and say
what's around them?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is it hard to work in coalition with someone who's
so nationalistic in his approach, no even want to sell
anything to anyone from overseas and he doesn't want Well,
it's been.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Pretty good on that, you know, foreign buyer band stuff.
You know, we didn't get what we wanted and get
what he wanted, but we've said, look, if you're going
to come and invest five million or ten million in
the country, you can buy a five million dollar or
more house. And I think Winston was very amenable to
that because it's about productive investment coming in. But look,
I mean we're in a mature MMP environment. You know,
go to the Netherlands, go to Germany, go to Austria.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
They're all made up of four or.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Five Finland four party coalition governments. Inevitably, people have their
different ways of views, and I would have a different
view on that Fonterra sale, but we actually asked secondary
to the conversation because frankly, farmers can make.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
That coin now a couple to finish on. I heard
this morning you were talking about reforming local government through
the RIMA, and I think the latest round of local
body elections are a perfect example of the system is broken,
isn't it. We've got far too many, far too many
small local body authorities. We don't need them. It's duplication.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Look, I think there's two things going on.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
One is you've got layers of government here that, just
in New Zealand, have made so much bureaucracy between central government,
which I look after regional councils. You've seen in Southland,
you've seen he cans, you know, and then you've got
district councils. It's just way too much and you've got
a hell a lot of paperwork shuffling between the system
and not a lot of activity, and it's slowing things up.
So as we do the r and MAY, we want

(10:27):
to strip it right back to what it necessarily must
be about. And I just as a result, one of
the questions is going to be what's the role of
future future role for regional councils period. It's a legitimately
good question to ask, is there a role given you
could do things in a much simpler kind of way.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
And a final word, said news yesterday that we all
awoke to the passing of Jim Boulger a few months ago. Wrong,
we referred to mister James Bolger.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
But of course he was never knighted because the Republican.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
He was a Republican. He refused to do it. He
was a staunch experience immigrants. I've got a text from
one of my former correspondents, Don Carson, who said, you know,
he saluted the last great farmer politician. Grant McCullum would
probably are you otherwise, but Bulger the great helmsman.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
He was far Yeah, in the tradition of Holy Oak
and others that have gone before him. And but look,
you know, I got to know him a little bit
when I came into politics. I kne him a little
bit before I came, But he was always really good.
Sort of when I ran into him, either a different
events or phone calls, he would sort of give you
advice and history from his experience as well. But he
loved people, very passionate about politics. I was with him

(11:35):
in a bar and whyke and I and he was
turned eighty seven, and you would have still he was
still fairly what he was wanting to campaign, you know,
and just loved the engagement with people, which was really special.
But you know, in many ways a leader who led
through a very difficult time. You know, we'd come out
of the whole reset in the late eighties, very messy
time for New Zealand economy. We're in a big recessionary
time now. You know, I had a big, big win

(11:57):
in nineteen ninety then you know, I went through a
tough period as they did, the Mother of all budgets
and a bit of resetting. But he did the right
decisions for the right reasons at the right time and
maybe not always appreciated in the moment if you remember
that as press in the nineties, but certainly with the
passing of time are well received and a great lead
of forty seven.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
All right, Christopher Luxon, thank you very much for your time.
Do you should I on gift Joe's gift to you though,
Joe Luxton sunscreen because if you take your hat off.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Mate, I all other day like this is what I do.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
I get the seventy plus on in morning and it
goes everywhere.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
It's a hell of a lot of real estate to
cover as you know, but I will I have a lot.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Let's just squirre be clear because about out we just
be clear, because yeah, anything labour does they know under deliver.
So I'm just worried actually that it actually would be
a sunscreen that actually would have any sunscreen protection in it.
You know what has it got in there that doesn't
It looks very They're saying it's SPF thirty. Come on,
loing labor will be SPF minus thirty. Make it even worse.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
A good shot at labor, Christopher Luxe, and thank you
very much for your time. It's nineteen after twelve here
on the Country. We're going to take a break on
the side of it. Today's Farmer Panel and that is
a current feed and a former feed. Sandra Faulkner and
Toby Williams.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Do I get to my music?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
The Farmer panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute
built off with truck DNA.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
She dances dance her James Fresh's born.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
She is telling you, yeah, we love Welcome back to
the country on the Friday. We always go country on
the Friday. In the country. That's a lot of countries,
isn't it. I can't get rid of the prime mister.
He said, I'm not going until you play Sally when
the Wine runs out by role Model catching.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Very good mate. I even saw you bopping along there.
You've got a bit of the Hoker Taker shuffle and
you're coming out there.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
I can see that. But I told you the beginning.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
I'll come on your show, but you've got to let
me promote country music, proper country music. Oh we Ally,
So this is my song of the week, which is
role Model Sally when the Wine runs out.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
So pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Okay, we're going to thank you, Prime minister. Time we're
going from Sally to Sandra. Sally to Sandra as opposed
to Sandra. You want to get over there, Sandra and
get straight down that microphone. And this is Hello, and
this is Sandra Faulkner from Federated Farmers. Hello, Sandra, you
might want to get a let more onto that. How's that?
Ben Ben Humphrey doing a wonderful job. Here as my

(14:33):
technical support. And believe you me, when it comes to
technical stuff, I need support. This is home patch for you.
Half the population or is it three quarters of the
population comes through the gates over the next two days.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
Yeah, how good is that we've got to spectacular day
here in Gisbood one hundred and fifty Poverty Bay amb
Association Show and just a massive shout out to Pat
and Stephen and all the team here because the showgrounds
are gleaming, people are smiling. Things are great in the Bay.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
We're going to chat to Toby Williams shortly, former Federated
Farmers Meat and Wool chair and he's got out of
the job at the wrong time because store lambs one
hundred and eighty dollars six dollars seventy two are kilogram
live weight lambs on the hooks eleven bucks wooll Sandra
is suddenly worth something. Happy days for the peorol sheep farmers.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
Happy days all right?

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
If we can get sharing to wash its face now
for a while, then you know it's all up from here.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Right Yeah. Now, you're a Federated of I've lost my
screen here. You're Federated Farmers spokesperson for adverse events and
goodness knows you've had enough of those in this region
over the years. But I want to talk to you
about local government. The Prime Minister talked about reforming through
the RIMA local government and I was off shore when
the local body elections were on, but I'm thinking we've

(15:52):
got far too many local body politicians. We've got far
too many local body authorities. We need more unitary authorities
and a bit of economy of scale.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
Yeah. Well, of course you're right in the heart of
a unitary authority here with the Gismond District Council and
a shout out to Mayor Rihet who's been returned to
her role there. But I think probably out of this
last election, the thing to note is just the sheer
numbers of rural and provincial voters that came out. So
you know, we've all heard about how abysmal the voting

(16:24):
rates were around the country, but it was our country
folk that got out and voted. And on top of that,
we've got some fantastic rural people. Have to put their
hands up. They're now sitting around council tables. So you know,
all that reform around our may it's going to be
in good hands and we've got a lot of work
to do it.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Just word on the adverse events, of course, you've had Bowler,
and if I get the chance, I might speak to
Graham Williams about that. A wee bit later in the show,
but of course more recently Gabrielle. Has the recovery finished
yet or is this Are we still a decade away
from being recovered.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
Well, it's all individual, right, and we're going to have
events up and down this country. We live in the
roaring forties and it just does miserable things to us
with the weather, so they'll be ongoing events. I think
what's really important to remember though, is that we don't
become the generation that says, oh, you haven't seen an
adverse event until you've seen gabriel because we saw that
a lot after Bowler, and we have to be a
bit careful with the people that we are looking after

(17:20):
out in the regions because it doesn't matter how big
or how widespread the event, your event is devastating when
it happens. So for us, it's really important that we
continue to look after people. And a big shout out
to those that are doing it up and down the country.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, so undred, thanks for your time. Part two of
the Farmer Panels also a gismond Or East Coast farmer,
Toby William's former chair of a Federated farmers Meet and
wool section isn't it good? You must be wrapped Toby.
That especially sheep farmers at the moment they're now making
some money.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Oh what a day to be a sheep fam What
a time to be a sheep farmer, Jamie. No, we've
had a plenty of just rubbish years no money in
sheep farming. In all of a sudden, you know, the
stars are aligned. We've got amazing pricing store and the
works and meet companies are saying it's here for a
little while.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Sheep looks pretty positive. What do you think might happen
around this big Alliance early next week? I don't know.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
You'd love to be a fly on the wall and
then not an Alliance s hearholder.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
But it's you know, it's tough.

Speaker 9 (18:19):
It's a tough decision and for me personally now a
matter of feeds, I can say, Look, I don't I
think the Dawn deal is a good deal for Dawn,
but not a good deal of for New Zealand's.

Speaker 10 (18:27):
It's pretty tough, you know.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
But they've backed themselves into a pretty poor position Alliance,
and I knew the management and the board of Alliance
now understand that they're trying the best they can to
get out of this. But you know, let's hope we
can find a solution that really suits the farmers.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
We have to still have too much capacity in the industry,
don't we.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
We do have way too much capacity in the industry.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
And I was talking with the Sulfur and Farms at
their Farmer conference this week about that, and you know
that needs to be solved. But a bigger thing we
need to actually solve is how we look after each
other in the market. We need more collaboration around how
we market our product, like the lambco and in North America.
We need to see this in Europe because we're running
a risk here now of not having enough to supply
these restaurants and keeping our brand out there. So it's

(19:11):
a you know, while it's amazing at the moment, we
need to work together.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Hey, and I've only been in Gisban for less than
a day, but the country's looking a picture We're amazing.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
Like we had forty miles of rain last week and
it could not have come at a better time. We
were northwesterly winds were browning us off, drying us out
pretty severely, and forty mills of rain is just pennies
from Heaven.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Okay, we thanks Toby, and thanks and Andra for being
a farmer panel that I really appreciate it. We're going
to take a break. It's twenty nine after twelve. Up next, legendary.
Can I call them that? No, yes I can. Neville
Clark PGG Wrights and Auction Air, former New Zealand rodeo
champion and he's on a walking stick at the moment.
He's just had a hip replacement. I wonder whether that

(19:54):
was from his days playing rugby for Riversdale or riding bulls.
We'll ask him next. He's up next before the end
of the hour. Rick lad here the seventies pawn star
from Brand and Dean Quinn and sorry about that, Rick,
And I'mrinda Singh from Eastland, Toyota as well. Something very

(20:18):
special happening on the high Lux front before the end
of the hour. Oh and of course Ben Humphrey here,
my technical assistant, is the head of Rural and Sport.
Four ends in me. It's Mackay on Sport minus Hamish Mackay.
We've got Ben doing that all that before the end
of the hour. Welcome back to the country. Twenty eight

(20:46):
away from one brought to you by Brent. We're broadcasting
from the brand site very shortly the rick Lad. Do
you think I'm being unkind? But I mean if you
were thinking of a name for a seventies pawn star,
Rick Ladd would be one of the first ones you'd
think of, wouldn't it. Oh yeah, Nevill Clark by the
way with us, Yeah, no, that would just roll out.

Speaker 11 (21:02):
I mean he's probably he's probably seven eight inches, but
shorter than a rick Lad.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Would look like we're talking in high tier. Yeah, hi, yeah, okay, well,
thank goodness for that. Anyhow shall we get the show?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Should we get.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Back on the road now you've got a hip replacement, yes,
limping like an old man with your with your crutch there.
And I was going to say it was from your
rugby days at Riversdale back in the eighties when we were
playing forty there. But no doubt the old rodeo because
your former New Zealand Rodeo chap has taken a bit
of a toll on the body. Yes, sort of it.

Speaker 11 (21:32):
It wasn't really from that, but I mean I haven't
lived to life in the cupboard. I mean we've had
forty four years a stock agent, you know, in sale
yards and rolling over rails rodeo for twenty five years,
when playing polo for twenty years, and I mean life
for living, and I just don't want to look back
and say wish I had.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, I don't think you could ever be accused of that.
You're never going to die wondering. We were talking to
Toby Williams about the price of lambs at the moment
store lambs one hundred and eighty six dollars seventy two
per kilogram. Lively, you've never seen anything like that in
your forty years in the business, have you.

Speaker 11 (22:07):
No, we haven't, And I mean it's a new era,
and I mean it's it's hard for a lot of
people to get the head around, but it is what
it is. And I mean you've got land use change
is having a big effect and we really haven't seen
the full effects of that. And I think of what
happened to you four fellas in South and a Targo.
I mean those those are numbers that we haven't seen

(22:28):
come on yet. And I mean the world's are about
to go into a good period where protein is going
to be needed. We know we've had a protein shortage
we've talked about it for ten years. I mean, reality
is here.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, I know, carbon farming is a bit of a
dirty word up here. Your old mate Graham Williams the
one start him on that, but you know, in my
home patch it is as well. And I'm for absolutely
a staunch supporter of forestry, right tree, right place, but
it has been an issue and I'm just hoping obviously
a change of leads to sigh and perhaps more importantly,

(23:01):
a change in fortune for sheep and beef farmers, especially
sheep farmers, will stop this conversion happening on good pastoral land. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (23:10):
Well, I mean that's been a travesty of poor leadership really,
and hopefully we've turned the corner. Although I do believe,
you know, the regulation got going now they've ring fenced it,
but they've put a ten foot gate in a fourteen
foot hole, and they need to be a bit you know,
they need to be a bit smarter about that. I
know they need the urban vote, but they need the

(23:31):
rule vote, and that's what's going to pull us out
of this, and it's what makes days like this so important.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
For our community. So you talk a lot of sense,
I know you do a lot of auctioneering for charity.
What do you got lined up over the next couple
of days. We've got some wonderful things.

Speaker 11 (23:44):
We've got the big Equine Parade today which is celebrating
one hundred and fifty years of the horse, and the
horse has been so important against one and we've got
some amazing equestrian people. Mayor and Ham is the first
one that comes to mind, but we've had some, you know,
one the horse made what we are. We got the
ball right tonight, which is something new for us here.
We normally have a shepherd dry but this is a
big boys and tomorrow afternoon, good afternoon entertainment, Greend Parade,

(24:09):
Shepherd's Challenge round the ring with a bit of speed
and hustle, motorbikes, donkey race. Yeah, it's just going to
be what makes Gi.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Gisbine quintessential Heartland, rural New Zealand, nev nevill Clark, PGG
Rights and livestock auction here. It great to catch up mate,
always good to see you again after all these years.
We're going to take a break on the other side
of it. Michelle Watters in our Dunedin studio, She'll have
rural news Andy McDonald with sports news before the end
of the hour, Rick lad Den Quinn from Brandt, Marinda

(24:43):
Singh from Eastland Toyota and Ben Humphrey filling in for
Hamish Mackay. It's MacKaye on sport as we head to
a big weekend of footy back after the break. One
away from one here the country live at one hundred

(25:03):
and fifty one hundred and fifty of them AMP shows
here at Gisbon at the local Showgrounds, brilliant venue. We're
broadcasting from the brand so I'm going to hear from
those lads very shortly. But here's Michelle with the latest
and rural news.

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(25:51):
rural news and is up next with Sport.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Oh four, thanks Michelle and Sport.

Speaker 13 (25:59):
The Silver Funs trim their squad for tonight's opening Constellation
Cup Netbill Test against Australia in Melbourne Paris. Mason has
dropped out, leaving interim captain Karen Berger, Kelly Jackson and
Katherine Hall as the circle defense options and footy fever
has grip. Deashburden is Mid Canterbury dear to dream of
a perfect season. Undefeated Hammers are hosting defending champs Thames
Valley tomorrow in a repeat of last year's decider. MD

(26:21):
Canterbury last one Heartland Rugby's top tier title in twenty fourteen.
That's sport, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, and sorry to the people in Thames Valley, but
I got to go with the South Island team there,
the Mid Canterbury Hammers. Good luck in Heartland rugby. It's
so good. We might touch on some of that with
McKay on Sport with Bean Humphrey at the end of
the hour, but up next we're going to catch up
with the Brant Ladds, a couple of local lads. Here
we'll get their take on the Gisbine amp Show.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
As well as a good.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Charm is sixteen I from one of the country, coming
to you from one hundred and fifty Gisbone amp Show.
Before I forget, I want to do the farm Strong
sign off because I'm very good at forgetting it and
it's very a good one today because they've got a
big shout out from farm Strong to everyone at the
AMP show in Gisbon today and they say turning up

(27:15):
to rural events is a great way to take a break,
connect with others and stay farm strong. Last year, twenty
thousand farmers boosted their well being thanks to farm Strong.
So check out their free tools and resources on the
farm Strong website farmstrong dot co dot nz. Find out
what works for you and lock it in Eddie Now, Rick, lad,

(27:36):
I've got to apologize. I've created a bit of a
monster for you here in your home, Patrick Gisbine by
making fun of your name, calling you a seventies porn star.
I'm sorry for that, but it does seem to have
created quite a bit of mirth amongst your colleagues here
at brand.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
Yeah, good on you, Jamie Afternoon listeners and yeah, hey,
I put my battles made and you were never one
one of them. So any publicity is good fellows publicity.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
In this job, you're an absolute, absolute hour on out
local hair. You've got family farming operation just out under
the hills there from Gisbon. This I mean when we
look at the I guess what he called the Poverty
Bay flats or the Gisbone Flats some of the best arable,
vegetable intensive horticulture land in the country.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Yeah, we're very diverse here on the East coast right,
and times like this, when things have been pretty tough,
it becomes quite a handy resource.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
So, Yep.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Might come from a pretty diverse background myself in the
cure fruit industry, citrus, grapes and apples here now tough.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Times at the moment for the viticulture industry. With grapes.
A man in Blenham, Blizzard MacLean tells us about some
of the contract growers not having wineries of wineries to
provide their product to. We're hearing of grape vines being
ripped out. Do you think this is a temporary blip.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Well, yeah, hey, I'm completely unqualified to make the statement,
but hey, I feel that the industry does need to
move with the time somewhat.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
It is.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
It is tough, it.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
I guess what I can say is that it's not
just the growers that are having this. You know that
the corporates and Salva got skin in the game too,
and there was there were grapes left on the vine
down in Melbourne themselves, right, So we're all in this together.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
And yeah, is it.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
I was talking more men about it the other day
and two thousand and seven they saw this go through
it and we're going to come out on the other
side of it. Well, here's hoping, because we are very
reliant on the viticulture industry.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Now, are you seeing more key we fruit going in
here in the Gisbin region, Because it's all very well
to say I'll rip out a vine and chuck in
some key We fruit, But there's a small small issue
of buying a key We fruit license.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
Absolutely licenses one part of it. Mate, if you want
to do it proper with this canopy. Yeah, it's a
huge investment and at the moment when we do have
to pull out like we have, it's a pretty tough
decision to make when you know, you know, we don't
know what to put in, and everything at the moment
is in such a low.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Great crowd gathering here at the branch side, especially the kids.
You've got the little green tractors they can buy for Christmas.
I want to talk to you about the big green tractors.
I read a press release I think yesterday or the
day before from Tarma, which is your tractor selling governing
body or whatever it was. And it was and I
hate the terminology, but they were talking about green shoots,

(30:19):
because let's make no bones about it, selling tractors is
a barometer of the rural economy. It's been tough in
the past few years post COVID, but now we are
seeing a definite improvement in the rural economy. Is it
coming through with tractor sars?

Speaker 7 (30:34):
Yes, it is, Jamie, Slowly but surely. We are up
on last year, you know, on a calendar year. But
it's coming from a very low place, you know, so
it had to get better at the moment here on
the Gisbone East Coast and Hawk's Bay, and probably Melbourne
as well due to that viticulture. We've probably not seen
the growth there, but definitely through the central North Island,
West Coast, Stratford, Derry we have seen a jump, you know,

(30:57):
throughout the year.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
It's been great.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
I think we're currently in a bit of a whole
patern at the moment till this decision comes through from
Frontier and a little.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Bit of the sheep and beef with the lions.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
But as soon as that decision's made, we hope to
see things pick up.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
And I'm not a debt recovery and.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I know which way you want the Fonterra vote to go.
That's three point two billion dollars back to the dairy farmers.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, hey listen, I'll keep my comments to myself made.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
I'm not all about selling asset, but yeah, hey listen,
I think it'll be good for us.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yep, Okay, Hey, Rick, lad, thank you so much for
hosting us and we've got it. Was interesting. I said
to Rick, I'm going to chat to a couple of
the Brant guys. They were all ducking for cover, but
one man did a volunteer and that was Dean quinn Quinne,
who tells me he's a very experienced radio man because
he does the local fishing slot on a news.

Speaker 14 (31:45):
Talk said, be here in Gisbin, I do. I do
the fishing results on the Thursday morning and we think.
We do the weather and who won and lost after
our drawer on a Wednesday night and have a bit
of fun with that.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So how big a deal is fishing in the Gisbane region.

Speaker 14 (32:03):
We're very spoilt with our fishing here, Jamie, because we
can catch Marlon, we can catch turner cherokee, hardpooker cod
and we don't have to go that far.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
So we are really spoilt Gisbine. For those people who
haven't been here, and I've mentioned I think this morning
on with Brian Kelly on the Country Sport Breakfast, it's
a bit like in Picargol in some ways. The climate's
a bit better here, but it's at the end of
the line. You don't drive through Gisbon to go to
anywhere else you have. It's a destination at the end
of the line. So not everyone's been here, but I

(32:35):
must say you're and Ben and I went out for
dinner in town last night. You're in a town or
I'm going to say city. I'm not sure whether Gisband's
a city is very pretty.

Speaker 14 (32:46):
It is good time of the year. I mean, look
at today. Gisband's really turned it on for everybody today
and you can look on everyone's faces and the children
and that they're having a great time.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Okay, just before I let you go, you've got a
show special for sixteenth thousand and sixteen five hundred dollars
plus g s t I can buy myself a tractor.

Speaker 14 (33:05):
You can. It's a ten twenty three E and you
can drive it home tonight if you want.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Well, no, I've got to go to a function with
you guys tonight. I don't know whether driving that I
might be breaking some sort of law. But to you
and Rick, thank you so much for hosting us. We're
going to take a break here on the country. I
don't know where my man from Toyota's gone. They're only
right behind us here at the brand side. But failing
that finding Mirinda, I'm going to have Ben Humphrey, who's

(33:33):
the head of Sport and Rural at Ends and me
and he's going to do McKay on sport in the
absence of Hamish MacKaye. We're giving Hamish a bit of
arrest because he's been doing the hard yards for the
past couple of weeks while I was swinding back in
Australia back to rubb wrap the country next.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Jam your homick Gun.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
McKay on sport with farm Lands, prevent parisite outbreaks and
score a win this summer Jesus Street where Skeeter gets
slap bat as fast as.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Stepping away from run are wrapping the country from the
Brent Side one hundred and fiftieth gisbon A and p Show.
What a great day it's been being Humphrey originally a
fairly boy, so I was going to call you a
jaffer in Auckland where you're based now running sport and
rural for end z me. But you must love getting
back to these.

Speaker 15 (34:28):
Absolutely love love the AMP Show and I've been wearing
my South Canterbury Rugby jose every Friday for the last
few weeks, but unfortunately they are out of the competition
and the Heartland Rugby Finals of course this weekend Meads
Cup Mid Canterbury the Hammers versus Thames Valley and Ashburton.
This weekend Mid Canterbury going untouched this this year, so

(34:53):
can they do the clean sweep and then down in
Mahino North Otago are taking on horror federal carpety Lahaw
Cup Final. How great is that going to Mahino for
the final.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
But that's where provincial rugby should be played, not necessarily
in the capital town of the province. Take it out.
It's like in South and we'd play the occasional game
back in the day at the Gore Showgrounds or the
Winton Reck or something like that. And that suits NPC rugby.

Speaker 15 (35:23):
I totally agree, and all seventy five town folk will
turn up, which is great. And then of course Bunning's
MPC semi finals. O Tago take on Bay have Plenty
tonight tonight in Dunedin and then tomorrow Canterbury versus Hawks Bay.

Speaker 10 (35:36):
What are you seeing there, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Well, look, I live in Dunedin, so I've got a
vested interest in Otago, believe it or not. On the
sponsor super Clean for all your commercial cleaning needs in
the Bay of Plenty for the Steamers. So whoever wins
that game, Otago or Bay of Plenty, I want them
to go through them in the NPC. And even though
Canterbury's a great sporting province. They win too many things.

(36:00):
Oh yeah, by a plenty or Otago Otargo's my first
pick followed if they can't win it by a plenty.

Speaker 10 (36:05):
I think how good would a South Island final.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Be Itargo Canterbury. Yeah, I guess there would be a
wee bit around that. I don't know where my man
from Eastland, Toyota's gone. Rinda Singh. He's such a splendid man.
He's a very tall, elegant Indian man and he's wearing
a turban. He looks sort of like almost Indian royalty.

Speaker 10 (36:27):
He does looks he was here and he's taken off.

Speaker 15 (36:31):
So we can talk about the greatest rivalry tour which
is coming. Jamie announce this morning twenty twenty six the
All Blacks heading over to South Africa.

Speaker 10 (36:40):
They'll play four tests plus they'll.

Speaker 15 (36:43):
Play the Stormers, the Sharks and the Balls and the Lions,
and then in twenty thirty South Africa come here for
a god old fashioned tour.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
And that will rekindle the interest in rugby because we
all I get bored with super rugby, absolutely bored. So
having a touring side it's like playing a province. I
think it's absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 10 (37:04):
Once again.

Speaker 15 (37:05):
Get those spring Boks playing in the provinces when they
get here in twenty thirty, it's going to be great.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah. So n PC, you want to see Otago Canterbury
Final and because you're a Canterbury boy, you're going to
go with Canterbury I think so yeah, yeah, well I
don't know about that.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
Ben.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Thank you very much for coming down. It's a day
out of the big smoke for you. I think we've
got largely this show to air unscathed, which is fantastic
because normally technology and I don't work that well. So
thank you very much. No, thank you.

Speaker 10 (37:35):
It's been great to be in Gisbone.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, and my man Rinda from Eastland Toyota who's disappeared
on me. I do know that they have a new
high Lux coming out early next year, so keep an
eye out for that one. They've also got the new
Rare four coming out as well. So that wraps us.
We're off to lunch with the President the President's Room
and we'll be back in Dunedin on Monday till then.

(37:59):
Take care. Been an hour out of here.

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