October 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Wayne Langford, Stu Duncan, Stu Loe, Andrew Hoggard, Hamish McKay, and Barry Soper.
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This? What I what I deserve? This?
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Good New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. On a pet
Shop Boys Friday. Blame Jane Ferguson, our online editor for that,
but it's rather apt that song, isn't it from the
pitt Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield. What have I done
to deserve this? That's what a lot of New Zealanders
are asking at the moment, especially a lot of farmers.
As the power is still off, trees lying everywhere. We're
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going to have a look at it. We're going to
start at the top with the country's most important farmer.
Can I call them that? The President of Federated farm As,
Wayne Langford, Today's Farmer Panel Stu Duncan, and the many
Atoto Stu Lowe and North Canterbury. They have been absolutely hammered.
Wayne Langford's predecessor, Andrew Hoggard Awe, but earlier this morning
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I caught up with him and Uruguay. Of all places,
he's been representing us at the World Dairy Summit in Chile.
Hamish Mackay MacKaye on sport, what the hell's happening with
the All Blacks coaching debarcur Barry Soper. We're going to
pay tribute to the last of the great farmer politicians,
and that is of course Jim Bolger, who was farewelled yesterday.
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It is eight after twelve. This man is a busy man.
Wayne Langford, President of Federated Farmers, Tasman Dairy Farmer. I'll
start with the home patch. How are you guys faring?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, no, Jomie, not too bead in certainly not as
bad as others. We had a bit of a rough
day yesterday and we had, as you will be a
weird power off at the top of the South Island
for about two or three hours there. So our cows
are a bit like getting milked. But we'll kind of
all back up in action today. So really concerned for
our friends and fellow farmers, and in a fair the south,
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particularly North Canterbury and down and so some significant issues
going on there.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, I know that on the farm I'm involved with
and off never milked the cow on my life. We
didn't get a milk last night. I hadn't caught up
with what's happened this morning. But can a broken down
form a sheep farmer ask you, an expert dairy farmer,
a question, how long can you leave a cow not milt?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, well, this is the challenge, and particularly the challenge
down there is of course we'll restricted. I mean, they
got some pretty high performing, big producing cows down there
as well, so obviously they'll be wanting to get milked.
It will be starting to cause some troubles the longer,
the longer they left, and so there's not much I
can that they can do a bit. They're just going
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to have to hold them out and wait and get
it done as quickly as they can. But it certainly
that we're causing a lot of respect to the farmers
and of the cows at the moment.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, well, it's not country wide. Some parts of the
country escaped a lot better than others. But as you mentioned,
it seems like the epicenter for damage is North Candary.
But geez, some brutal pictures are coming out of Southland
yesterday with the weather. It was coming in sideways like
a hurricane down there. And here in Dunedin where I'm based,
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trees that have stood for one hundred years, one out
in front of the Hockin Library, that wonderful institution here
in Dunedin at the University blown over.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and I don't want to get myself in trouble
here by packing one air or over another year right
north Canaba is extremely bad, significant amount of pips knocked
over and also communication towers as well. But Southland we
are hearing support our reports of around two to three
hundred od dairy farms that haven't milked yet. That's that
significant damage. Are also around twenty odd cell phone towers
that are out and so again communication is a real
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issue down there as well. So yeah, there is significant
work going on and behind the scenes. And then I
know too many farmers you know, that doesn't help them
on the ground right now and as they're listening, but
it is happening, and the work with sort offense to
get their power up and going and to get farmers
milking again as quickly as we can.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Well, that is happening.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, power and water issues are obviously especially down south.
State of emergency has been declared in Southland. This is
from the news bullet at the top of the air.
Thousands of households and wire are Upper North, Canterbury and
Southland remain without power. Jeremy Rooks sent me a text
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saying two hundred spans these of the pivot irrigators. He
used a stronger word than buggered on these pivots in
the culvid And area alone, and that's apparently just for
water force clients. So it's going to be a huge issue.
And with these terrible winds there's also been terrible drying.
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They need those pivots to be up and running.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's I'm in your pretty much on near the significant
And this was farmers that were well prepared. They had
had noticed and they'd tied all these pivots down. You know,
it's not like it was a surprise here. So that
that's how strong this one was. Talking to a number
of farmers in south On this morning. They said, you
know that it was it was a very short space
of time, fifteen fifteen minutes. He was speaking with a
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Dutch accent, so you can ever really understand those pretty sure,
he said fifteen months. But he you know, he said,
you know, it just it just came through and down
went the trees across the down went the power and
all kindage and broke loose, so significant damage in the
short space of time.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Farmers who are in trouble, they can there's the Federated
Farmer's Hotline, which you'll have off the top of your head,
no doubt, wine.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, eight hundred farming, that's that. But we are actually
encouraging farmers just at the moment. It took all civil
defense because they are so hotly involved. Farmers will come
in for the weekend and do be much more prominent
next week. But currently civil defense this is a state
of emergency. And the more information that can be fed
through to civil defense right now, the better, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
With these widespread power altages, and I've been speaking to
people in south on this morning about this. Are we underprepared?
Are we not climate resilient? Should every farmer, especially dairy farmers,
because it's a bit different on a sheep and beef farm,
but on a dairy farm where you've got to milk
cows twice a day using electricity? Should every farm have
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a generator, or at least be sharing one with two
or three neighbors.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, I think it's definitely something that when you just
look at as around our resilience, just just using my
farm as an example, is the last the three hours, yestay,
I think it was the longest I haven't had power
in about the last twenty five years, So you can
see how it wouldn't be on the top of my
priority list. But in other areas and potentially for me
going forward, I'll be thinking around about it more now,
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around what I'm going to do to protect in these situations,
because yeah, you know, sometimes you think I might only
be off for a few hours, but what if it
is offer for two or three days? How am I
going to be prepared for that?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Okay, Wayne, look, I know you've got to go to
another interview. I do appreciate your time and to the
team you and the team at Federated Farmers, thanks for
supporting the farmers of the country.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's right, Jomah. Most importantly, just I'm actual farmers are
taxing time look after themselves here. You know, we are
in a state of an emergency. You know, don't do
anything crazy that a way into the problems. Just just
get through this. It's not about of production and stuff
at the moment, it's about a can these cows, Morklan,
just getting them through.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
To start with good on you Wine length of their
President of Federated Farmers doing a good job. Fifteen after
twelve you are with the Country up next f Farmer
Panel Stu Duncan and the many A Toto Stullow and
really interested to get Stu Lowe's take on what's happening
in North Canterbury. They seem to be at the brunt
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of it, maybe along with self, and maybe they're the
worst affected areas. Not that we want a cherry picked
worst affected areas. But earlier this morning I caught up
with Andrew Hoggart and Uruguay, former President of Federated Farmers,
Amish McKay on sport, Barry Soper on politics, Jane ferguson
the Country's online editor with Rural News. I'll add sports
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news for you. And if you hate the pet shop boys,
don't shoot the messenger me wame Jane.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Rochid dream so Rochie Flowers are Richard books and talked
for ours and every day so many dreams, such pretty flaws.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That tell me what a what are life?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
What doesn't deserve this?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
What are my?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
What a what a deer? The farmer panel with the
Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute built off with truck dna.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Ah, the pit shop boys. They were so gloriously camp
And I can't segue from gloriously camp to these two
rugged farmers or I'd be hung, drawn and courted. STUW.
Duncan and the Manototo Are are I Suzu farmer panelist
or one of them? The other one is Stu Stu
Duncan and the Manyototo And let's try Stu Low in
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North Canterbury, Stu Low, I want to start with you.
We were going to be talking a bit of footy,
but the weather intervened. How bad is it in North Canterbury?
Good afternoon, by the way.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Good afternoon. He went here in some north of where
I farm here in Skaggle, had been near a pair
last night but the mary basin up through the wire
and Hemner they copped it really bad. So here pretty
I think the state of emergency still stall the because
of these road closures still and people can't you can't
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get through to him.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
And just yet, Hey, excuse my lack of Canterbury rural
Canterbury geography knowledge is COVID and right in the middle
of the Murray basin.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah, so the Bellmoral Forest was planted back in whenever
and that blew over in seventy five and the big
win then so did Earle south of or just by
on the edge of the Wine River there, and they
were plantations that I think you know, it was just
a hard, bony country and it was planted in pines
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and they all blew over. And now they're trying to
what they are watering it and making grass grow, but
with no pilots where you makech grass growing. And yeah,
those poor fellows that they are going to really struggle
if they can't get their water.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
On Now, stew Luell stay with you. One of your
old mates, Parnell Graham Edgar west Otago's leading farmer, or
he was in the sixties when he was in his prime.
But he told me last night I was chatting to
him because the roof of the Tapanui four square blown
off in west Otago and he said, and all his
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decades on the planet, and that's quite a few now,
he said, he's never seen wind like it. What about
in North Canterbury.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah, well I think we I was fair places just
on the where I live. It just was on the
edge of it. But I think up through and to
Hamley there was up to two hundred caves and their
wind up there, so that must have been pretty strong.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
I was on the seven or eight and seventy five,
so I can't remember that, but I do remember going
pass and seeing all the trees flattened on the Belmoll straight,
So yeah, it must have been very similar.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Okay, down on Southland as we've got a state of
emergency down there, the powers off for many many farmers.
The milking's being done by generators on a lot of farms.
We go away bit north of Southland up into sort
of central Otago, many A Toto that's where we find
Stu Duncan and Stu. You guys got off lightly.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, no, we did it actually and for all those
people that did get hammered. But no, I haven't heard
of any pivots down and just a few branches and
few willow tree branches are heavy and leaf. But definitely
it looked like it went north and south of us,
which everyone was prepared when you get those talk with
the number of one hundred and thirty and forty k wins.
People around here were hungering down, but it definitely shot
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round us. So we're pretty lucky, but definitely fail for
all those other people, because well.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Not only do these winds prove very destructive, they're also
very very drying. You're only a week away from a
drought in Canterbury, your summer dry and the mania toto.
Are you starting to dry out now?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, we've been getting some of the rains that have
been coming with them before and after them. There was
a good rain. I think there's fifteen mills in Alexandria
yesterday and we got about eight or ten, so you'd
argue we just kept keeping up with it, but we
did get a good rain a fortnight ago. But we
do need it and we don't need a lot more
of it because it dries out of the cross really quick.
But at the moment we're just really going into spring
a lot of cases here and finishing carving and lemon,
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so we're looking definitely one week and when we will
be completely different.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well, carving and lambing are all done and dusted, and
Canterbury in fact tailing, docking, whatever you want to call,
it's done as well. Stu Low, are you starting to
dry out?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, we're a bit like stew. We've had the odds
of five and ten mil rainfalls, but then the next
day to get the buddy Norway, so it's sort of
back to square one. So we're green and a few
fellows have got their their mixed use window crops, and
but judging by the color of the sky, all of
it was blowing around in the atmosphere because that there's
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some a lot of dust floating around. So if you
work your ground too fine, I'd say there'll be if
you lost food of eaten kale paddicks.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Hey, guys, just before I forget, I've just got a
text through from Chris Brandeleno. I was going to chat
to him, but I didn't really have time today and
the weather has come the farm are we but thankfully,
but he did say, please, this is from Chris Brandelena.
Please give the audience a head up that low level
snow and cold tempts are expected on Tuesday and Wednesday
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of next week could be an impact. The cold is
talking about to stock and also obviously for growers horticulture,
particularly obviously some of those temperature sensitive crops. Right, let's
just lighten things up a weave it because the weather
has been miserable. Studllo, what's the weather forecast for christ
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Church tomorrow four o'clock four thirty.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Supposed to be sunny and fine and no doubt there
will still be a bit of a bit of a breeze,
but it should all be good for that four o'clock
kick off.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, you realize that all the country apart from you
guys in Canterbury want so targo to one.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Yeah, well that's what happens tof at the top. But
as I told John Letter, you know, as long as
as the Letter turns up to major game with a
tager and cannery play January Kenery come out on top
of it. A couple bet a month ago, I don't
think there's any Letters involved in the Shield game and
the Tagger to shield a way, which was fine.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
So you need you need a Ladder to front up.
Well that was of course David Ladder cruelly and unfairly penalized.
And then Mertz kicked the winning gold.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
In me apparently, so you had it. And so I
look back in the history. It was nineteen thirty five
when O Targo last beat kenry For to take the
shield away, so there was ninety years ago. So yeah, anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Reckon Stu Duncan. I reckon lightning will strike twice this
season for Ittago in christ Church. What do you reckon?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Yeah, well, the hardest game's been, hasn't it? Really got
the shield that's the one everyone wants to have their
name on. So no, I've got a pretty good feeling
that they'll do it twice. I'm sure they will have
a pretty good team and they're all on attack, all
on defense, and it'll be pretty hard for Carebory to
come out and be there be most win this weekend
with men to target when they bring that NPC ben
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a home, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, all right, lad's he thanks very much. Enjoy enjoy
the footy over the weekend and yeah, like I just
think for the sake of New Zealand rugby, we want
Otago to win. Stulo, sorry about that, Yeah whatever, Yeah,
see Stulo, Stu Duncan, the Farmer panel, thank you, I Suzu.
Lots of texts coming in. Oh he's a glen. He's
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not holding back, he says maybe ask that foaming climate
denying boomer Bryce McKenzie what he thinks of all the damage. Well,
Bryce's are farming in West Otago and they got a
fair whipping with the winds. No doubt he'll ram his
head into the sand and call all the people who
farms whose farms are trashed woke. Well that's rather unkind, Glenn.
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But send us your feedback through on five double nine,
twenty six, make that twenty seven after twelve up next.
Andrew Hoggart caught up with them a wee bit earlier
this morning in Uruguay. He's been representing US at the
World Dairy Summit in Chili. Get his take on South America. Next,
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on the country.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Were well, change up, sometimes better off. Today's a gun
in your heart's.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Pointing at your head.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You think you're mad to undstad kicking in chairs and
knocking down tables in a restaurant.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Some people get all the good jobs, and this man's
got one of them. He is representing a New Zealand
at the World Dairy Summit. His name is Andrew Hoggart,
of course, former president of Federated Farmers. These days associate
agg and biosecurity minister, Hey, Andrew, are we getting a
value out of our taxpayer's money from you or is
this just the junket?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
No, No, you're getting your money's worth. Look off. Basically
spoke at the World Dairy Summit, really pushed obviously trying
to encourage people to come next year to the World
Dairy Summit, which has been held in Auckland. And you know,
if we can, the more people can get. He come
from all over the world down to New Zealand for
a summit guarantee they're going to stay an extra week
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and do some sightseeing in New Zealand. So the more
we can get, the better. But have also been talking
to I guess ministerial counterparts in both Chile, yesterday in
Argentina and bonas Us and today in Uruguay Montevideo. In fact,
actually just opened a New Zealand serum facility in Montevideo
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with the Uruguayan President. So yeah, it was photo me
cutting the ribbon with him. So it's been a good
tour certainly, talked about a lot of things we have
in common, and I think it's a part of the
world that we should be doing a lot more talking
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with because there's a lot of commonality in our farming
systems and some of the challenges the rest of the
world wants to throw our way, they're quite good allows
in my view.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Do you know a guy by the name of Mark Townsend.
I think he was a founding director of Fonterra.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Yes, yes, I do you know Mark quite well well.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
In twenty twelve, Mark and I took a group of
farmers to South America to see an all blacks test
in Bonas Aires. But we also spent a lot of
time in Chile, south of Santiago, where the land I
think it's on the same latitude as your home patch
of Manor two and it was just so aerily similar
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to New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yeah, they had this poster up at the World Dairy
Summit of cows standing in front of snow capped mountain.
That was obviously shot in Chile down the south. But
if you showed that photo to anyone in New Zealand
and said when do you think this is, they would
have gone, oh, that's Mount Taranaki. So that's obviously in
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TARANNICKI the land looks very similar, the farming system is
very similar.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What sort of commonalities I think that's the word. What
sort of commonalities have we got with the South Americans
when it comes to dairying.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Well, I think they're obviously big on pasture bat they're
moving more towards pasture based because you know, they've got
the pasture, they've got the land. As you mentioned, similar
temperate climate. So you know, part of the discussions that
I had certainly had yesterday was with representatives who are
busy trying to sell New Zealand agri tech into South America, Argentina,
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Uruguay and Chile. So there's probably a really I think
there's something we can build on to get for New
Zealand agritech really get more of that being exported and
used in South America for sure. But yeah, I was
on a farm this morning and you know I could
see components in the cow shed that were this same
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as mine, and you know, talking about milking times and
all the rest of it same as me. Yeah, so
there is a lot of similarity and there's probably a
lot of benefits to us in terms of doing more
business with South America.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
They obviously share the same concerns as we do over
a greenhouse gas emissions, especially methane from ruminants.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
Yes they do and know this. I just had a
meeting with my Iuruguayan counterparts. They're the only country in
the world to have a split gas in DC, and obviously,
a couple of weeks ago, in part as part of
the methane announcement that we as a government did, we
said would be investigating a split gas approach for our NDC.
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So it was good to be able to talk to
them about that and understand how they do it, and
quite frankly, it sounded much more sensible than what we've
got at home. So certainly reinforced my view that you know,
split gues NDC makes a hell of a lot of sense.
And certainly, you know Argentina also where you know, they're
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similar of a similar mind in terms of you know,
it makes no sense to be reducing their production. They
want to maintain it, they want to do better, but
just reducing it makes very little sense. So, you know,
I think we've got a couple of allies over here
in terms of having that argument with those countries around
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the world that say, oh, we just you know, shouldn't
be farming and farm less and all the rest of it,
and want to have absolute reductions.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Hey, just to finish on I love the big cities
of the world. It's a real thrill and a bit
of a pleasure really if you're lucky enough to go
and visit them. I thought Santiago, the capital of Chile,
was a wonderfully attractive city. Bonas Ares I found a
wee bit underwhelming. There's by memory, a picture of Eva
of Varon on one Eva paran should I say, on
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one of the buildings in a big spy in the
main street other them that a bit underwhelming. I mean,
what did you make of the cities you've.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Been in, So Santiago, big city, I mean having the
fact that you've got the Andes right behind it. You
know when people are in the Canterbury Plains and they
look up the Southern Alps and they feel, you know,
you look at that vista and you think, oh, that's impressive.
Go Remember the Andes are basically twice as tall as
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mew Cock, so you can imagine how impressive that view
that vista is. Santiago, it seemed to be a very modern
city and looks quite buzzing. Yeah, one of these areas
was it's interesting. I only got to spend a little
bit of time there did look a bit run down.
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Montevideo is very colonial in terms of its layout, so
it's quite you know, yeah, sort of. I remember as
a kid watching the old movie Battle of the River Plate,
which is obviously that's where it happened, and you know,
the New Zealand Navy was involved in that, so yeah,
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that sort of was pretty cool. I like being able
to go to places where some histories happened, so yeah,
finding one that quite interesting, just being around and seeing
it all.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
All right, Andrew Hogart out of South America. You're a
guy today. Thank you very much for your time. Safe
travels home.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
No worries, not just.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Andrew Hogard. Yeah, caught up with them earlier this morning,
got of them to take time out to chat to us.
Andrew's the former president of Federated Farmers. I just got
a text from his predecessor, Katie Melm Thanks for listening, Katie,
appreciate it. I must get you on the show next week.
She said, Good Jamie. Can you remind farmers cleaning up
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trees to be wary of spring back. Sadly, in the
past children and dogs have been killed when in the
root zone and crushed as the tree base springs back
into place as the weight is taken off by chainsawing
the fallen tree. Any of us who have spent some
time on a chainsaw, as I did as a young man,
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which is why I'm half theft now, we'll be aware
of that. But if you're just a weekend warrior, please
be careful. As Katie says, most will be aware, but
it never hurts to remind people with so much going on,
There's going to be a lot of chainsaw work happening
around the country over the next few weeks, so be
safe out There has a text coming in. How about
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calling out the Glens Glen text that is earlier for
the actual cause of climate change? Freezians and ranges? Do
you mean Ford Rangers didn't cause the ice age? Are
not to mention sunspots the biggest influence on the climate.
He's talking about sunspots. They're our texture. Feel free to
see in your sending your feedback on five double O
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nine up next, Look girl, the woman, the woman. I
think I'll call her Jane Smith. Jane Smith. She was
on Wednesday show. I'm having fun of here. Let's try
Jane Ferguson, our online editor who's responsible for pet Shop
Ay is Friday. She's in here with rural news. We'll
have a look at sports news for you as well.
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Western that could describe us, Jane. I've got the brains,
You've got the looks.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
I'm going to say the other way around.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
No, I think I'd soon have the brains and the looks.
And you've definitely got it from that department over me.
Age has wearied me, Jane, Age has wearied me.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
It is.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
We'll make that eighteen away from one. And now you're
getting a bit of stick courtesy of the fact that
you came up with pitch Shop Boys. Friday. I love it.
I'm loving it. Well.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
I think everybody knows why I chose the pitch Shop Boys, Jamie,
and it has more to do with you than with me.
But I'm willing to take the flat from everybody.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
But they're just so gloriously camped.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
They are.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
They're fantastic, They're fantastic, and Dusty Springfield was like a
gay icon, so it was just it was just such
a camp music video. Actually, I'll tell you another great
a great sorry, this is getting a great eighties video
I watched the other night on YouTube out of Touch
(27:37):
by Hall and Oates the extended version I Love to Die,
I Love All and Oats too. Right, here's rural news,
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
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Speaker 9 (27:56):
And rural news. Fonterra is encouraging farmers facing milk, election
issues or animal health concerns to call its support team
on eight hundred sixty five sixty five sixty eight. The
co op says it's working closely with local teams and
agencies to restore normal operations, but communication challenges and parts
of the South Island are making things difficult. Farmers are
(28:17):
advised to keep milking and chill milk where possible. In
rare cases, milk may need to be disposed of as
transport can't be arranged in time, but Fontera will contact
those farms directly. The co op encourages farmers who are
having a tough time to reach out to support agencies
such as the Rural Support Trust and again that number
for farmers for Fonterra is eight hundred sixty five sixty
(28:38):
five sixty eight.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Are we sending Henry Ackland in the PR department at
Fonterra a bill for this?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
No comment?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I take that so? No, all right, Henry, you owed
me a backhander. Next time I'm in Auckland lot. I
don't know how to have This is a commercial radio station.
We've got to make a living. He's sport, sport.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
We're the Avco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Okay, right, she's one of my favorite athletes. Olympic champion
Elise Andrews has been knocked out in the women's sprint
quarterfinals at the Track Cycling World Championships in Chile. Everything's
happening in Chile at the moment. The KeyWe rider was
eliminated two nil in a best of three match against
Dutch rider Hetty fondeval better fortunes for New Zealand's men's
(29:26):
team Pursuit, who claimed bronze and a ride off against
the United States, And as we heard earlier this morning,
Warriors boss Cameron George has dispatched any lurking Luke Metcalf
exit rumors after the twenty six year old half back
signed and extension until the end of twenty twenty eight
or the end of the twenty twenty eight NRL League season.
George says both parties were focused on the new deal
(29:50):
rather than opting for free agencies. Good player, that bloke.
Right up next, it's mckaye on Sport, Hamish mckaye, and
we're going to see how the one or two fared.
Whether guys over the past few days sometimes doesn't right.
(30:41):
I was a bit worried I wouldn't get this man.
He didn't answer his phone first time. That's because he's
a very busy real estate agent by day, Phil in
Country host by night, Hamish mackay and Hamish I reckon.
You would have played plenty of the pet shop Boys
back in the day when you were a young buck
on man Ortu Radio.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Oh Pit Shop Boys just one that a fantastic era.
Yeah yeah, long ago now though, right.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
We're showing our age. This is mackay on Sport. Oops,
I better remember that we've got a sponsor for the segment.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now look at this off McKay on Sport with Farmlands
protect your crops from nasties this summer.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
There you go, Thank you Farmland. Hamish. What's happening with
the all Black coaching setup.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I'm a bit worried about is Razor in control or
is he bluffying it. You know, you've got two guys
like Leo McDonald initially and now Jason Alfie Holland. That'd
be two of the more level headed guys I've come
across in my thirty years in the media. Nothing flighty
about them. And Holand's now walking it's going on the
Northern Tour. Apparently we'll see how that pans out. But
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after two years and you know, there's been again a
real sort of sullenness around this announcement and it's sort
of like not a great deal of clarity. I mean,
if he's been made a scapegoat, then for me, that's ridiculous.
At the end of the day, the coach is the gaffer.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
You know, we've got.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
When Razor came into this, he was you know, bulla
I'm off to Fiji and you know, and then so
if you become the all Black coach, you know, we
want to see we've come off some of the worst
losses of it. Now you can you can pope people
can start him to say, you know, Jason Holland must
be the reasonable less absolute bollocks in my opinion. The coach,
he's the gaffer. He should be accountable.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yeah, do you know what, we've missed a trick? And
I know that you that you think the same Tony Brown.
What a rugby talent who's now or not?
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Not?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Probably he could possibly be the reason we lose the
World Cup final again to South Africa.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely the guy.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
But you know, you know the starting for it in life,
Jamie Mackay, and I know you know this is that
the guy is a decent human being and he's he
made the absolute most of what he God given, gifts
he's given, and he's just you know, like all I
always coming from a media perspective, that will be some
of them. Your mars will have been a flea on
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a dog. Sometimes a guy like Tony Brown treated you
with respect and a gentleman, and that gets through to
the players. They listen to what he has to say. No,
I really think, I mean, it's such a crying shame
that he's doing it for somebody else and not us.
I know people are mentioning Joseph, but he's not going
to want to work for Razors should be working for
Joseph you know that's how it should be.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It's interesting to say Tony Brown making the most of
what he was given. He's only got like one and
a half hands. One of his hands is a claw hand.
I played golf with the bloke occasionally and here in
Dunedin and he played all his international rugby with one
on a half hands. Absolutely brilliant. Like, Hey, Haymo's just
to really quickly go because I know you've got one
of your high paid real estate meetings to go to.
(33:47):
Shall I get a shameless plug in for Tremaine's Yes,
I just have. Hey, who do you reckon? You'll be
with me Otago for the MPC final.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
It's all right, and they've got the player. I believe
it's the closest thing we've had to buckshelf it in
thirty years. Christian Willy is the most underrated player in
New Zealand forty He's powerful over the ball. You know,
I just can't believe that. We go on and on
about lack Eye and Satiti. They are good, but in
a different way. Leo Willy is what we need to
take off South Africa.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Well, he's certainly going well for Otago. Hamish, thanks for
your time. Keep up the good work. Hey, how did Manawatu?
Did you escape? The worst of the weather.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Last night was the worst I've ever seen it in
a matter of two but overall pretty good in terms
of damage, not too bad.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Okay mate, thanks for your time. Hamish mackay there, we're
going to take a break wrap it with well. Hamish
is no relation even though we've got the same name
spelled differently. We might be related distantly, but someone I
am related to is my first cousin, Barry Sober. We're
going to wrap it with him. But before I forget,
because I've got so much to get through today, time
for the weekly farm Strong sign off. This week it's
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this weekend and lock in what works for you. Barry
Soper wraps the country next.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I said.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Five away from one wrapping of the country with cousin Barry,
soaper Barry, we haven't got enough time to talk about
the mega strikes, Marrima's mistake, what a disaster, the Greens
into party, Marrier, all Labour's policy flops. I want to
talk to you and get a couple of good quality
minutes on the last great farmer politician, Jim Bolger. I
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know you knew him well, oh, I knew him very well.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
In fact, I met him first Jamie in the seventies
when I was the industrial unceman for TVNZ and he
was the Labor Minister for Rob Muldoon. So we go
back a long way. And I remember back then he
invited this showing twenty something year old up to his
office for a few drinks and that continued through the years.
(36:16):
That are huge Bulger, and I thought it just goes
to show the power of television as all politicians like it.
And then, of course, in another life I went to
radio in nineteen eighty and Bolgel was well and truly
ensconced and you know, spent such a long time as
a politician before he became the leader, and really was
(36:39):
he was excellent at the job. Although if you talk
to some of his caucus colleagues. Decision making was not
his strongest point in terms of making instant decisions. He
wanted to test the water before he made decisions and
that was frustrating to some of them. And of course
we can never forget what happened in the end, and
it came as a great price to Jim Bolger himself
(37:01):
when he was defeated by Jenny Shipley. They did the
numbers when I was with him in Europe and said
au revoir to him in Paris, and he came back
met at the airport, was by Doug Graham and was
told the numbers had been done and it was too
late to retrieve his Prime ministership. So it was an
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ignominious end to what was a strong career in politics.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Hey, Barry, just like I've only got thirty seconds. But
history doesn't judge some prime minister as well. Rob Muldoon
would be a really good example. As history has gone on,
it's judged Bulger for the better.
Speaker 10 (37:38):
You got ten seconds, yeah, I think for the Treaty settlements.
That's whatever you remembered for, and he certainly remembered for that.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
At his funeral yesterday, Barry Soper wrapping the Country. Enjoy
your long weekend. Good luck for the recovery out there.
For you guys and girls on the farms of New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So rouchie flowers are Richard books and tops and every day,
so many drinks, such pretty flowers that sell me? What
a what a mine?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
This? What I what I deserve? This?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Good New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. On a pet
Shop Boys Friday. Blame Jane Ferguson, our online editor for that,
but it's rather apt that song, isn't it from the
pitt Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield. What have I done
to deserve this? That's what a lot of New Zealanders
are asking at the moment, especially a lot of farmers.
As the power is still off, trees lying everywhere. We're
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going to have a look at it. We're going to
start at the top with the country's most important farmer.
Can I call them that? The President of Federated farm As,
Wayne Langford, Today's Farmer Panel Stu Duncan, and the many
Atoto Stu Lowe and North Canterbury. They have been absolutely hammered.
Wayne Langford's predecessor, Andrew Hoggard Awe, but earlier this morning
(01:13):
I caught up with him and Uruguay. Of all places,
he's been representing us at the World Dairy Summit in Chile.
Hamish Mackay MacKaye on sport, what the hell's happening with
the All Blacks coaching debarcur Barry Soper. We're going to
pay tribute to the last of the great farmer politicians,
and that is of course Jim Bolger, who was farewelled yesterday.
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It is eight after twelve. This man is a busy man.
Wayne Langford, President of Federated Farmers, Tasman Dairy Farmer. I'll
start with the home patch. How are you guys faring?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, no, Jomie, not too bead in certainly not as
bad as others. We had a bit of a rough
day yesterday and we had, as you will be a
weird power off at the top of the South Island
for about two or three hours there. So our cows
are a bit like getting milked. But we'll kind of
all back up in action today. So really concerned for
our friends and fellow farmers, and in a fair the south,
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particularly North Canterbury and down and so some significant issues
going on there.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, I know that on the farm I'm involved with
and off never milked the cow on my life. We
didn't get a milk last night. I hadn't caught up
with what's happened this morning. But can a broken down
form a sheep farmer ask you, an expert dairy farmer,
a question, how long can you leave a cow not milt?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, well, this is the challenge, and particularly the challenge
down there is of course we'll restricted. I mean, they
got some pretty high performing, big producing cows down there
as well, so obviously they'll be wanting to get milked.
It will be starting to cause some troubles the longer,
the longer they left, and so there's not much I
can that they can do a bit. They're just going
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to have to hold them out and wait and get
it done as quickly as they can. But it certainly
that we're causing a lot of respect to the farmers
and of the cows at the moment.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, well, it's not country wide. Some parts of the
country escaped a lot better than others. But as you mentioned,
it seems like the epicenter for damage is North Candary.
But geez, some brutal pictures are coming out of Southland
yesterday with the weather. It was coming in sideways like
a hurricane down there. And here in Dunedin where I'm based,
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trees that have stood for one hundred years, one out
in front of the Hockin Library, that wonderful institution here
in Dunedin at the University blown over.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and I don't want to get myself in trouble
here by packing one air or over another year right
north Canaba is extremely bad, significant amount of pips knocked
over and also communication towers as well. But Southland we
are hearing support our reports of around two to three
hundred od dairy farms that haven't milked yet. That's that
significant damage. Are also around twenty odd cell phone towers
that are out and so again communication is a real
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issue down there as well. So yeah, there is significant
work going on and behind the scenes. And then I
know too many farmers you know, that doesn't help them
on the ground right now and as they're listening, but
it is happening, and the work with sort offense to
get their power up and going and to get farmers
milking again as quickly as we can.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Well, that is happening.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, power and water issues are obviously especially down south.
State of emergency has been declared in Southland. This is
from the news bullet at the top of the air.
Thousands of households and wire are Upper North, Canterbury and
Southland remain without power. Jeremy Rooks sent me a text
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saying two hundred spans these of the pivot irrigators. He
used a stronger word than buggered on these pivots in
the culvid And area alone, and that's apparently just for
water force clients. So it's going to be a huge issue.
And with these terrible winds there's also been terrible drying.
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They need those pivots to be up and running.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's I'm in your pretty much on near the significant
And this was farmers that were well prepared. They had
had noticed and they'd tied all these pivots down. You know,
it's not like it was a surprise here. So that
that's how strong this one was. Talking to a number
of farmers in south On this morning. They said, you
know that it was it was a very short space
of time, fifteen fifteen minutes. He was speaking with a
(05:27):
Dutch accent, so you can ever really understand those pretty sure,
he said fifteen months. But he you know, he said,
you know, it just it just came through and down
went the trees across the down went the power and
all kindage and broke loose, so significant damage in the
short space of time.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Farmers who are in trouble, they can there's the Federated
Farmer's Hotline, which you'll have off the top of your head,
no doubt, wine.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, eight hundred farming, that's that. But we are actually
encouraging farmers just at the moment. It took all civil
defense because they are so hotly involved. Farmers will come
in for the weekend and do be much more prominent
next week. But currently civil defense this is a state
of emergency. And the more information that can be fed
through to civil defense right now, the better, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
With these widespread power altages, and I've been speaking to
people in south on this morning about this. Are we underprepared?
Are we not climate resilient? Should every farmer, especially dairy farmers,
because it's a bit different on a sheep and beef farm,
but on a dairy farm where you've got to milk
cows twice a day using electricity? Should every farm have
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a generator, or at least be sharing one with two
or three neighbors.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, I think it's definitely something that when you just
look at as around our resilience, just just using my
farm as an example, is the last the three hours, yestay,
I think it was the longest I haven't had power
in about the last twenty five years, So you can
see how it wouldn't be on the top of my
priority list. But in other areas and potentially for me
going forward, I'll be thinking around about it more now,
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around what I'm going to do to protect in these situations,
because yeah, you know, sometimes you think I might only
be off for a few hours, but what if it
is offer for two or three days? How am I
going to be prepared for that?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Okay, Wayne, look, I know you've got to go to
another interview. I do appreciate your time and to the
team you and the team at Federated Farmers, thanks for
supporting the farmers of the country.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's right, Jomah. Most importantly, just I'm actual farmers are
taxing time look after themselves here. You know, we are
in a state of an emergency. You know, don't do
anything crazy that a way into the problems. Just just
get through this. It's not about of production and stuff
at the moment, it's about a can these cows, Morklan,
just getting them through.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
To start with good on you Wine length of their
President of Federated Farmers doing a good job. Fifteen after
twelve you are with the Country up next f Farmer
Panel Stu Duncan and the many A Toto Stullow and
really interested to get Stu Lowe's take on what's happening
in North Canterbury. They seem to be at the brunt
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of it, maybe along with self, and maybe they're the
worst affected areas. Not that we want a cherry picked
worst affected areas. But earlier this morning I caught up
with Andrew Hoggart and Uruguay, former President of Federated Farmers,
Amish McKay on sport, Barry Soper on politics, Jane ferguson
the Country's online editor with Rural News. I'll add sports
(08:21):
news for you. And if you hate the pet shop boys,
don't shoot the messenger me wame Jane.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Rochid dream so Rochie Flowers are Richard books and talked
for ours and every day so many dreams, such pretty flaws.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That tell me what a what are life?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
What doesn't deserve this?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
What are my?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
What a what a deer? The farmer panel with the
Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute built off with truck dna.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Ah, the pit shop boys. They were so gloriously camp
And I can't segue from gloriously camp to these two
rugged farmers or I'd be hung, drawn and courted. STUW.
Duncan and the Manototo Are are I Suzu farmer panelist
or one of them? The other one is Stu Stu
Duncan and the Manyototo And let's try Stu Low in
(09:30):
North Canterbury, Stu Low, I want to start with you.
We were going to be talking a bit of footy,
but the weather intervened. How bad is it in North Canterbury?
Good afternoon, by the way.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Good afternoon. He went here in some north of where
I farm here in Skaggle, had been near a pair
last night but the mary basin up through the wire
and Hemner they copped it really bad. So here pretty
I think the state of emergency still stall the because
of these road closures still and people can't you can't
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get through to him.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
And just yet, Hey, excuse my lack of Canterbury rural
Canterbury geography knowledge is COVID and right in the middle
of the Murray basin.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah, so the Bellmoral Forest was planted back in whenever
and that blew over in seventy five and the big
win then so did Earle south of or just by
on the edge of the Wine River there, and they
were plantations that I think you know, it was just
a hard, bony country and it was planted in pines
(10:31):
and they all blew over. And now they're trying to
what they are watering it and making grass grow, but
with no pilots where you makech grass growing. And yeah,
those poor fellows that they are going to really struggle
if they can't get their water.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
On Now, stew Luell stay with you. One of your
old mates, Parnell Graham Edgar west Otago's leading farmer, or
he was in the sixties when he was in his prime.
But he told me last night I was chatting to
him because the roof of the Tapanui four square blown
off in west Otago and he said, and all his
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decades on the planet, and that's quite a few now,
he said, he's never seen wind like it. What about
in North Canterbury.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah, well I think we I was fair places just
on the where I live. It just was on the
edge of it. But I think up through and to
Hamley there was up to two hundred caves and their
wind up there, so that must have been pretty strong.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
I was on the seven or eight and seventy five,
so I can't remember that, but I do remember going
pass and seeing all the trees flattened on the Belmoll straight,
So yeah, it must have been very similar.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Okay, down on Southland as we've got a state of
emergency down there, the powers off for many many farmers.
The milking's being done by generators on a lot of farms.
We go away bit north of Southland up into sort
of central Otago, many A Toto that's where we find
Stu Duncan and Stu. You guys got off lightly.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, no, we did it actually and for all those
people that did get hammered. But no, I haven't heard
of any pivots down and just a few branches and
few willow tree branches are heavy and leaf. But definitely
it looked like it went north and south of us,
which everyone was prepared when you get those talk with
the number of one hundred and thirty and forty k wins.
People around here were hungering down, but it definitely shot
(12:20):
round us. So we're pretty lucky, but definitely fail for
all those other people, because well.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Not only do these winds prove very destructive, they're also
very very drying. You're only a week away from a
drought in Canterbury, your summer dry and the mania toto.
Are you starting to dry out now?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, we've been getting some of the rains that have
been coming with them before and after them. There was
a good rain. I think there's fifteen mills in Alexandria
yesterday and we got about eight or ten, so you'd
argue we just kept keeping up with it, but we
did get a good rain a fortnight ago. But we
do need it and we don't need a lot more
of it because it dries out of the cross really quick.
But at the moment we're just really going into spring
a lot of cases here and finishing carving and lemon,
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so we're looking definitely one week and when we will
be completely different.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well, carving and lambing are all done and dusted, and
Canterbury in fact tailing, docking, whatever you want to call,
it's done as well. Stu Low, are you starting to
dry out?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, we're a bit like stew. We've had the odds
of five and ten mil rainfalls, but then the next
day to get the buddy Norway, so it's sort of
back to square one. So we're green and a few
fellows have got their their mixed use window crops, and
but judging by the color of the sky, all of
it was blowing around in the atmosphere because that there's
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some a lot of dust floating around. So if you
work your ground too fine, I'd say there'll be if
you lost food of eaten kale paddicks.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Hey, guys, just before I forget, I've just got a
text through from Chris Brandeleno. I was going to chat
to him, but I didn't really have time today and
the weather has come the farm are we but thankfully,
but he did say, please, this is from Chris Brandelena.
Please give the audience a head up that low level
snow and cold tempts are expected on Tuesday and Wednesday
(14:04):
of next week could be an impact. The cold is
talking about to stock and also obviously for growers horticulture,
particularly obviously some of those temperature sensitive crops. Right, let's
just lighten things up a weave it because the weather
has been miserable. Studllo, what's the weather forecast for christ
(14:24):
Church tomorrow four o'clock four thirty.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Supposed to be sunny and fine and no doubt there
will still be a bit of a bit of a breeze,
but it should all be good for that four o'clock
kick off.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, you realize that all the country apart from you
guys in Canterbury want so targo to one.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Yeah, well that's what happens tof at the top. But
as I told John Letter, you know, as long as
as the Letter turns up to major game with a
tager and cannery play January Kenery come out on top
of it. A couple bet a month ago, I don't
think there's any Letters involved in the Shield game and
the Tagger to shield a way, which was fine.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
So you need you need a Ladder to front up.
Well that was of course David Ladder cruelly and unfairly penalized.
And then Mertz kicked the winning gold.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
In me apparently, so you had it. And so I
look back in the history. It was nineteen thirty five
when O Targo last beat kenry For to take the
shield away, so there was ninety years ago. So yeah, anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Reckon Stu Duncan. I reckon lightning will strike twice this
season for Ittago in christ Church. What do you reckon?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Yeah, well, the hardest game's been, hasn't it? Really got
the shield that's the one everyone wants to have their
name on. So no, I've got a pretty good feeling
that they'll do it twice. I'm sure they will have
a pretty good team and they're all on attack, all
on defense, and it'll be pretty hard for Carebory to
come out and be there be most win this weekend
with men to target when they bring that NPC ben
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a home, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, all right, lad's he thanks very much. Enjoy enjoy
the footy over the weekend and yeah, like I just
think for the sake of New Zealand rugby, we want
Otago to win. Stulo, sorry about that, Yeah whatever, Yeah,
see Stulo, Stu Duncan, the Farmer panel, thank you, I Suzu.
Lots of texts coming in. Oh he's a glen. He's
(16:17):
not holding back, he says maybe ask that foaming climate
denying boomer Bryce McKenzie what he thinks of all the damage. Well,
Bryce's are farming in West Otago and they got a
fair whipping with the winds. No doubt he'll ram his
head into the sand and call all the people who
farms whose farms are trashed woke. Well that's rather unkind, Glenn.
(16:41):
But send us your feedback through on five double nine,
twenty six, make that twenty seven after twelve up next.
Andrew Hoggart caught up with them a wee bit earlier
this morning in Uruguay. He's been representing US at the
World Dairy Summit in Chili. Get his take on South America. Next,
(17:02):
on the country.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Were well, change up, sometimes better off. Today's a gun
in your heart's.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Pointing at your head.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You think you're mad to undstad kicking in chairs and
knocking down tables in a restaurant.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Some people get all the good jobs, and this man's
got one of them. He is representing a New Zealand
at the World Dairy Summit. His name is Andrew Hoggart,
of course, former president of Federated Farmers. These days associate
agg and biosecurity minister, Hey, Andrew, are we getting a
value out of our taxpayer's money from you or is
this just the junket?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
No, No, you're getting your money's worth. Look off. Basically
spoke at the World Dairy Summit, really pushed obviously trying
to encourage people to come next year to the World
Dairy Summit, which has been held in Auckland. And you know,
if we can, the more people can get. He come
from all over the world down to New Zealand for
a summit guarantee they're going to stay an extra week
(18:05):
and do some sightseeing in New Zealand. So the more
we can get, the better. But have also been talking
to I guess ministerial counterparts in both Chile, yesterday in
Argentina and bonas Us and today in Uruguay Montevideo. In fact,
actually just opened a New Zealand serum facility in Montevideo
(18:29):
with the Uruguayan President. So yeah, it was photo me
cutting the ribbon with him. So it's been a good
tour certainly, talked about a lot of things we have
in common, and I think it's a part of the
world that we should be doing a lot more talking
(18:51):
with because there's a lot of commonality in our farming
systems and some of the challenges the rest of the
world wants to throw our way, they're quite good allows
in my view.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Do you know a guy by the name of Mark Townsend.
I think he was a founding director of Fonterra.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Yes, yes, I do you know Mark quite well well.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
In twenty twelve, Mark and I took a group of
farmers to South America to see an all blacks test
in Bonas Aires. But we also spent a lot of
time in Chile, south of Santiago, where the land I
think it's on the same latitude as your home patch
of Manor two and it was just so aerily similar
(19:33):
to New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yeah, they had this poster up at the World Dairy
Summit of cows standing in front of snow capped mountain.
That was obviously shot in Chile down the south. But
if you showed that photo to anyone in New Zealand
and said when do you think this is, they would
have gone, oh, that's Mount Taranaki. So that's obviously in
(19:56):
TARANNICKI the land looks very similar, the farming system is
very similar.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What sort of commonalities I think that's the word. What
sort of commonalities have we got with the South Americans
when it comes to dairying.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Well, I think they're obviously big on pasture bat they're
moving more towards pasture based because you know, they've got
the pasture, they've got the land. As you mentioned, similar
temperate climate. So you know, part of the discussions that
I had certainly had yesterday was with representatives who are
busy trying to sell New Zealand agri tech into South America, Argentina,
(20:37):
Uruguay and Chile. So there's probably a really I think
there's something we can build on to get for New
Zealand agritech really get more of that being exported and
used in South America for sure. But yeah, I was
on a farm this morning and you know I could
see components in the cow shed that were this same
(20:59):
as mine, and you know, talking about milking times and
all the rest of it same as me. Yeah, so
there is a lot of similarity and there's probably a
lot of benefits to us in terms of doing more
business with South America.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
They obviously share the same concerns as we do over
a greenhouse gas emissions, especially methane from ruminants.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
Yes they do and know this. I just had a
meeting with my Iuruguayan counterparts. They're the only country in
the world to have a split gas in DC, and obviously,
a couple of weeks ago, in part as part of
the methane announcement that we as a government did, we
said would be investigating a split gas approach for our NDC.
(21:44):
So it was good to be able to talk to
them about that and understand how they do it, and
quite frankly, it sounded much more sensible than what we've
got at home. So certainly reinforced my view that you know,
split gues NDC makes a hell of a lot of sense.
And certainly, you know Argentina also where you know, they're
(22:08):
similar of a similar mind in terms of you know,
it makes no sense to be reducing their production. They
want to maintain it, they want to do better, but
just reducing it makes very little sense. So, you know,
I think we've got a couple of allies over here
in terms of having that argument with those countries around
(22:29):
the world that say, oh, we just you know, shouldn't
be farming and farm less and all the rest of it,
and want to have absolute reductions.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Hey, just to finish on I love the big cities
of the world. It's a real thrill and a bit
of a pleasure really if you're lucky enough to go
and visit them. I thought Santiago, the capital of Chile,
was a wonderfully attractive city. Bonas Ares I found a
wee bit underwhelming. There's by memory, a picture of Eva
of Varon on one Eva paran should I say, on
(22:58):
one of the buildings in a big spy in the
main street other them that a bit underwhelming. I mean,
what did you make of the cities you've.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Been in, So Santiago, big city, I mean having the
fact that you've got the Andes right behind it. You
know when people are in the Canterbury Plains and they
look up the Southern Alps and they feel, you know,
you look at that vista and you think, oh, that's impressive.
Go Remember the Andes are basically twice as tall as
(23:26):
mew Cock, so you can imagine how impressive that view
that vista is. Santiago, it seemed to be a very modern
city and looks quite buzzing. Yeah, one of these areas
was it's interesting. I only got to spend a little
bit of time there did look a bit run down.
(23:50):
Montevideo is very colonial in terms of its layout, so
it's quite you know, yeah, sort of. I remember as
a kid watching the old movie Battle of the River Plate,
which is obviously that's where it happened, and you know,
the New Zealand Navy was involved in that, so yeah,
(24:11):
that sort of was pretty cool. I like being able
to go to places where some histories happened, so yeah,
finding one that quite interesting, just being around and seeing
it all.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
All right, Andrew Hogart out of South America. You're a
guy today. Thank you very much for your time. Safe
travels home.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
No worries, not just.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Andrew Hogard. Yeah, caught up with them earlier this morning,
got of them to take time out to chat to us.
Andrew's the former president of Federated Farmers. I just got
a text from his predecessor, Katie Melm Thanks for listening, Katie,
appreciate it. I must get you on the show next week.
She said, Good Jamie. Can you remind farmers cleaning up
(24:56):
trees to be wary of spring back. Sadly, in the
past children and dogs have been killed when in the
root zone and crushed as the tree base springs back
into place as the weight is taken off by chainsawing
the fallen tree. Any of us who have spent some
time on a chainsaw, as I did as a young man,
(25:18):
which is why I'm half theft now, we'll be aware
of that. But if you're just a weekend warrior, please
be careful. As Katie says, most will be aware, but
it never hurts to remind people with so much going on,
There's going to be a lot of chainsaw work happening
around the country over the next few weeks, so be
safe out There has a text coming in. How about
(25:39):
calling out the Glens Glen text that is earlier for
the actual cause of climate change? Freezians and ranges? Do
you mean Ford Rangers didn't cause the ice age? Are
not to mention sunspots the biggest influence on the climate.
He's talking about sunspots. They're our texture. Feel free to
see in your sending your feedback on five double O
(26:06):
nine up next, Look girl, the woman, the woman. I
think I'll call her Jane Smith. Jane Smith. She was
on Wednesday show. I'm having fun of here. Let's try
Jane Ferguson, our online editor who's responsible for pet Shop
Ay is Friday. She's in here with rural news. We'll
have a look at sports news for you as well.
(26:30):
Western that could describe us, Jane. I've got the brains,
You've got the looks.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
I'm going to say the other way around.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
No, I think I'd soon have the brains and the looks.
And you've definitely got it from that department over me.
Age has wearied me, Jane, Age has wearied me.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
It is.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
We'll make that eighteen away from one. And now you're
getting a bit of stick courtesy of the fact that
you came up with pitch Shop Boys. Friday. I love it.
I'm loving it. Well.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
I think everybody knows why I chose the pitch Shop Boys, Jamie,
and it has more to do with you than with me.
But I'm willing to take the flat from everybody.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
But they're just so gloriously camped.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
They are.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
They're fantastic, They're fantastic, and Dusty Springfield was like a
gay icon, so it was just it was just such
a camp music video. Actually, I'll tell you another great
a great sorry, this is getting a great eighties video
I watched the other night on YouTube out of Touch
(27:37):
by Hall and Oates the extended version I Love to Die,
I Love All and Oats too. Right, here's rural news,
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
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On for your locals, Doggist.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
And rural news. Fonterra is encouraging farmers facing milk, election
issues or animal health concerns to call its support team
on eight hundred sixty five sixty five sixty eight. The
co op says it's working closely with local teams and
agencies to restore normal operations, but communication challenges and parts
of the South Island are making things difficult. Farmers are
(28:17):
advised to keep milking and chill milk where possible. In
rare cases, milk may need to be disposed of as
transport can't be arranged in time, but Fontera will contact
those farms directly. The co op encourages farmers who are
having a tough time to reach out to support agencies
such as the Rural Support Trust and again that number
for farmers for Fonterra is eight hundred sixty five sixty
(28:38):
five sixty eight.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Are we sending Henry Ackland in the PR department at
Fonterra a bill for this?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
No comment?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I take that so? No, all right, Henry, you owed
me a backhander. Next time I'm in Auckland lot. I
don't know how to have This is a commercial radio station.
We've got to make a living. He's sport, sport.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
We're the Avco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Okay, right, she's one of my favorite athletes. Olympic champion
Elise Andrews has been knocked out in the women's sprint
quarterfinals at the Track Cycling World Championships in Chile. Everything's
happening in Chile at the moment. The KeyWe rider was
eliminated two nil in a best of three match against
Dutch rider Hetty fondeval better fortunes for New Zealand's men's
(29:26):
team Pursuit, who claimed bronze and a ride off against
the United States, And as we heard earlier this morning,
Warriors boss Cameron George has dispatched any lurking Luke Metcalf
exit rumors after the twenty six year old half back
signed and extension until the end of twenty twenty eight
or the end of the twenty twenty eight NRL League season.
George says both parties were focused on the new deal
(29:50):
rather than opting for free agencies. Good player, that bloke.
Right up next, it's mckaye on Sport, Hamish mckaye, and
we're going to see how the one or two fared.
Whether guys over the past few days sometimes doesn't right.
(30:41):
I was a bit worried I wouldn't get this man.
He didn't answer his phone first time. That's because he's
a very busy real estate agent by day, Phil in
Country host by night, Hamish mackay and Hamish I reckon.
You would have played plenty of the pet shop Boys
back in the day when you were a young buck
on man Ortu Radio.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Oh Pit Shop Boys just one that a fantastic era.
Yeah yeah, long ago now though, right.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
We're showing our age. This is mackay on Sport. Oops,
I better remember that we've got a sponsor for the segment.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now look at this off McKay on Sport with Farmlands
protect your crops from nasties this summer.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
There you go, Thank you Farmland. Hamish. What's happening with
the all Black coaching setup.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I'm a bit worried about is Razor in control or
is he bluffying it. You know, you've got two guys
like Leo McDonald initially and now Jason Alfie Holland. That'd
be two of the more level headed guys I've come
across in my thirty years in the media. Nothing flighty
about them. And Holand's now walking it's going on the
Northern Tour. Apparently we'll see how that pans out. But
(31:48):
after two years and you know, there's been again a
real sort of sullenness around this announcement and it's sort
of like not a great deal of clarity. I mean,
if he's been made a scapegoat, then for me, that's ridiculous.
At the end of the day, the coach is the gaffer.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
You know, we've got.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
When Razor came into this, he was you know, bulla
I'm off to Fiji and you know, and then so
if you become the all Black coach, you know, we
want to see we've come off some of the worst
losses of it. Now you can you can pope people
can start him to say, you know, Jason Holland must
be the reasonable less absolute bollocks in my opinion. The coach,
he's the gaffer. He should be accountable.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yeah, do you know what, we've missed a trick? And
I know that you that you think the same Tony Brown.
What a rugby talent who's now or not?
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Not?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Probably he could possibly be the reason we lose the
World Cup final again to South Africa.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely the guy.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
But you know, you know the starting for it in life,
Jamie Mackay, and I know you know this is that
the guy is a decent human being and he's he
made the absolute most of what he God given, gifts
he's given, and he's just you know, like all I
always coming from a media perspective, that will be some
of them. Your mars will have been a flea on
(33:04):
a dog. Sometimes a guy like Tony Brown treated you
with respect and a gentleman, and that gets through to
the players. They listen to what he has to say. No,
I really think, I mean, it's such a crying shame
that he's doing it for somebody else and not us.
I know people are mentioning Joseph, but he's not going
to want to work for Razors should be working for
Joseph you know that's how it should be.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It's interesting to say Tony Brown making the most of
what he was given. He's only got like one and
a half hands. One of his hands is a claw hand.
I played golf with the bloke occasionally and here in
Dunedin and he played all his international rugby with one
on a half hands. Absolutely brilliant. Like, Hey, Haymo's just
to really quickly go because I know you've got one
of your high paid real estate meetings to go to.
(33:47):
Shall I get a shameless plug in for Tremaine's Yes,
I just have. Hey, who do you reckon? You'll be
with me Otago for the MPC final.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
It's all right, and they've got the player. I believe
it's the closest thing we've had to buckshelf it in
thirty years. Christian Willy is the most underrated player in
New Zealand forty He's powerful over the ball. You know,
I just can't believe that. We go on and on
about lack Eye and Satiti. They are good, but in
a different way. Leo Willy is what we need to
take off South Africa.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Well, he's certainly going well for Otago. Hamish, thanks for
your time. Keep up the good work. Hey, how did Manawatu?
Did you escape? The worst of the weather.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Last night was the worst I've ever seen it in
a matter of two but overall pretty good in terms
of damage, not too bad.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Okay mate, thanks for your time. Hamish mackay there, we're
going to take a break wrap it with well. Hamish
is no relation even though we've got the same name
spelled differently. We might be related distantly, but someone I
am related to is my first cousin, Barry Sober. We're
going to wrap it with him. But before I forget,
because I've got so much to get through today, time
for the weekly farm Strong sign off. This week it's
(34:50):
a call to action. What's the one thing you could
change to make farming easier on your mind and body.
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(35:13):
this weekend and lock in what works for you. Barry
Soper wraps the country next.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I said.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Five away from one wrapping of the country with cousin Barry,
soaper Barry, we haven't got enough time to talk about
the mega strikes, Marrima's mistake, what a disaster, the Greens
into party, Marrier, all Labour's policy flops. I want to
talk to you and get a couple of good quality
minutes on the last great farmer politician, Jim Bolger. I
(35:51):
know you knew him well, oh, I knew him very well.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
In fact, I met him first Jamie in the seventies
when I was the industrial unceman for TVNZ and he
was the Labor Minister for Rob Muldoon. So we go
back a long way. And I remember back then he
invited this showing twenty something year old up to his
office for a few drinks and that continued through the years.
(36:16):
That are huge Bulger, and I thought it just goes
to show the power of television as all politicians like it.
And then, of course, in another life I went to
radio in nineteen eighty and Bolgel was well and truly
ensconced and you know, spent such a long time as
a politician before he became the leader, and really was
(36:39):
he was excellent at the job. Although if you talk
to some of his caucus colleagues. Decision making was not
his strongest point in terms of making instant decisions. He
wanted to test the water before he made decisions and
that was frustrating to some of them. And of course
we can never forget what happened in the end, and
it came as a great price to Jim Bolger himself
(37:01):
when he was defeated by Jenny Shipley. They did the
numbers when I was with him in Europe and said
au revoir to him in Paris, and he came back
met at the airport, was by Doug Graham and was
told the numbers had been done and it was too
late to retrieve his Prime ministership. So it was an
(37:22):
ignominious end to what was a strong career in politics.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Hey, Barry, just like I've only got thirty seconds. But
history doesn't judge some prime minister as well. Rob Muldoon
would be a really good example. As history has gone on,
it's judged Bulger for the better.
Speaker 10 (37:38):
You got ten seconds, yeah, I think for the Treaty settlements.
That's whatever you remembered for, and he certainly remembered for that.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
At his funeral yesterday, Barry Soper wrapping the Country. Enjoy
your long weekend. Good luck for the recovery out there.
For you guys and girls on the farms of New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
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