October 30, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Brandolino, Mark de Lautour, Tim Dangen, Rachel Shearer, Hamish McKay, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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He was looking for the police call the ho.
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, London. Gooday, New Zealand, Good afternoon. Welcome to the Country.
Brought to you by Brent. Michelle's just rushed them with
my run sheet from the printer. I hate it when
the printer doesn't work. That's the first world problem compared
to what a lot of farmers have had to deal
with over the past week or so. We're going to
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have a look at that story. But it is Halloween today.
Halloween music is the theme today. Chris Brandolino, We're going
to discuss some very scary stuff. Not hallowayin but what
the weather's been doing for the past ten or so days.
Mark Delatour, He's gone from London to in Icargol and
back to Auckland, chief executive of Open Country Dairy. What
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does he make of the Fonterra vote in the Southland storms,
talking about Southland air Man and he was a one
man panel today. We had a sister yesterday, Tim Dangel,
former Young Farmer of the Year, Rachel Share of the
GM of PGG Wrights and having a look at the Wallmarket,
Hamish mackay and Mackay on sport, Barry Soper on politics,
Gee Prince Andrew Trump and lux and Chippy's cgt In
(01:42):
Winston just being a grumpy old man, right, oat, let's talk,
he said, looking at his screen Weather.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Weather on the country with farmlands, with clothing to keep
you cool, dry and protected this summer.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Chris Brandelino was NEWA was NEWA used to be Newa.
You're a sciences New Zealand. Was Halloween a big deal
when you were growing up as a kid?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh it was big? Yeah, I mean it. It was
a lot of fun, trick or treating, you know, dressing up.
I'm not much of a dress up person, but yeah, yes,
it's the short answer.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, it's bled. If that's the word. Its way to
New Zealand culture. I think it's just slightly grossly commercial.
But maybe I'm a maybe I'm a bit like Winston.
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man and I'm barking.
I'm barking at clouds. Is it barking at clouds yelling
at clouds?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Well, either one barking or yelling. You're allowed to bark
and yell, that is. I mean, if you want to
bark and yello at clouds, Jamie, who am I to
tell you that you're wrong? You know, whatever makes you happy, buddy, Well.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I reckon there's a lot of farmers at the moment
who are yelling at clouds every time one comes over,
and especially if they come over too quickly, because that
means there's a wind driving them. We chatted to you
last Thursday on the country, just on the eve. You
were warning about what the winds might do, and it
came true. But the interesting thing was they came through
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lower then perhaps we were expecting.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, it depends on where you were. For the folks
in Southland and parts of Donna, you neck of the woods,
you know, Otago, lower Otago. Certainly that sting Jet, I think,
as we mentioned, did come through and did a real number.
I think North Canterbury did really bad as well, but
other areas perhaps certainly you know, not as bad. So
it wasn't. It wasn't right the way through Canterbury, that's
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for sure. But nonetheless it's been a very active spring
with a lot of wind, a lot of rain on
the western part of the South Island, not enough rain
for eastern parts of the North Island. In fact, my
Steam colleague Chester, he just I guess a print or
printed I say, he just issued and wrote up our
latest hot spot report. So look for that on the
(03:54):
website to kind of talk about where dryness is and
what the outlook is for the next week in terms
of rain. Not a lot of rain, Jamie. I'm just
kind of stealing his thunder. There will be a few
spotty showers, maybe an odd downpour tomorrow across the central
North Island from the Rakumeras over toward Totof at the
Gizban and toward the Central Plateau and Waikato. A bit
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of rain potentially there, but not a lot of rain.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
If I'm basically adding up the rain drops between now
and when we say next Thursday, it's gonna be the
western South Island that sees the most. But even there
we're talking maybe twenty thirty forty millimeters of rain at most,
very little if any for the eastern part of Boat Islands,
so not much rain through say Thursday of next week,
things will change. We'll maybe see a threat for showers,
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maybe some downpours as we get toward the end of
next week, and I do want to let people know
that it is going to turn quite warm. So at
the moment we have a bit of a chili snap
that we're sort of dealing with the tail end, Jamie.
But I do think as we work away through the weekend,
and especially as we arrive in next week, we are
going to shift to a more decidedly warm weather pattern
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for much of the country. And I do think as
we're you know, basically through the maybe second week of November,
unusual warmth is going to be a theme for much
of New Zealand as our airflow is expected the north
to northwest as a whole in broad Strokes.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, I think that'll be welcome by a lot of farmers,
a bit of an improvement and temperatures. Chris Brandolino, thanks
very much for your time and joy Halloween with the family.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hi, well, buddy, you'd be good so.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Chris Brandolino from Newer Earth Sciences, New Zealand these days. Okay,
up next he is. I think he's just landed in Auckland.
He's been in London. I'll tell you why in a tick.
And he's also been in the cargo. He's been everywhere.
Man Mark dallas Or, chief executive of Open Country Dairy
as second biggest dairy company in this country. What does
(05:55):
he make of the frontier of Tim Dungen former Young
Farmer of the Year Rache'll share Hamish McKay Harry's soper
lots on the show today.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Something from the door.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
He is the globe trotting chief executive of Open Country Dairy,
a second biggest dairy company in this country, obviously behind Fonterra.
We're going to come back to Fonterra. But Mark de Latour,
you've just come back from in Bicagoo. You've been down
there supporting your team down there, this horrendous damage on
some of the farms of your suppliers. But before that
(06:41):
you were in London at the Joseph Parker fight versus
Fabio Wardley. You move in and famous circles in Bicargo
in London.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
It seemed like such a good idea.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Jamie Gooda's name by the way. It seemed like such
a great idea until I realized I'm fifty four years
of age and jet leg hits me harder at this stage.
So I thought I'd just pop over watch Joe, give
them my support, and then head back and at the
end of labor weekend, which seems good on paper, but
when you get off the plane. I certainly felt every
hour of that last flight home, but well worth doing.
(07:15):
It's one of those things in life that you have
to do.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, come on, come on, mark first world problems. You
would have been sitting at the front, not the back.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
When boarding a plane that always turned left.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Ja.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, I'm with you on that one. But when you
fly down to him the cargo, you haven't got that choice.
Sometimes you've got to go in one of those little
prop planes, which aren't that easy either, especially the way
the weather is at the moment. But on a more
serious man, tell me what you saw on the ground
in Southland.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yeah, it's you know, you've got to feel for the
guys down there, and two two tough springs in a
row really for them, you know. And the season was
going so well, going gangbusters at good prices, and then
the second year running their spring is hammered, so you know,
we rallied around our farmers really well. I've got to
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say most of my time was with talking to my team.
A few of the team were caught down in Balcluth
are just finishing up the farmer meetings and the storm
hitting it, and it hit just so suddenly, you know.
I think the windows of rental cars were broken and
everything for the team and took them about four or
five hours to get to get to Dunedin. But it
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was interesting with the team being and then Jamie, I
think within ten minutes they had enacted our disaster management
plan and I think the tankers were packed up for
an hour, no one was heard or any damage to gear,
but then started collecting straight away within an hour and
a half of that storm baiting. So the guys that
are a really really good job.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Late October peak production in Southland and in many darying regions.
How much is this storm and we'll stick with Southland
and Southwest Otago because you've been down there. How much
is this going to knock peak production and that? And
when it's knocked they tell me you never get it back.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Yeah, I guess that's true to some extent, I think,
you know, again back to the team is you know,
whilst it was definitely milk spilt, what we managed to
do is there were six big generators at our sister
company FCO that is used to plug in refer containers,
and we threw those six generators.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
On trucks and.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Drove them around to our farmers so they could at
least people could keep their sheds going and keep unloading
as much as possible. I think the team put in
six hundred and fifty thousand liters of water, that's the
number that's on the head.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Just to keep water for the farms as well.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
So I think there was no doubt that there's a
big amount of milk spilt in the conditions, but you know,
with the team supporting, I think our supplies hopefully fed
better than better than others. And I know that is
back up to about three point eight million leaders a
day right now, so let's just hope we can keep
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that production up.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So, Mark Delatour, you're the chief executive of our second
biggest dairy company, obviously Fonterra is the biggest by the
length of the strait. The farmers voted overwhelmingly to sell
their consumer brands, business to luck to lease. What do
you make of it?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yeah, I knew you'd ask me that question, daring.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Look, well, don't sit on the fans. Give me an
honest opinion.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
One thing I've all say is, look, you know, good
on the farmers. They're given two dollars this year and
I guess that's what I think.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
I've read.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
It's around four hundred thousand dollars on average for the farmers,
so you know them, good on them. If I think
I got off that, i'd vote for it as well.
But you know, I think at the end of the day,
it's a little disappointing for New Zealand. It is a shame,
you know, when you see Anchor and Mainland you've better
say those famous French brands and that.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
That hurts a little bit.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
You know whereundred percent New Zealand owned. And it is
a shame that that it's it's gone that way. But
I understand, you know, if if I didn't fundamentally think
that that the ingredient food service model was was correct,
open country to looked different when the jam that's our
business model has been.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Some basically Fonterra is that she should take this is flattery.
They're following your business model.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I think that pushed back on them following us, but
it is the same business model. And you know, we've
been very staunch and now moves not to be in
that consumer brand business. There's lots of overhead, lots of complexity, and.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well that's a good reason for Fonterra to get out
of it. Mark, you're sounding like Winstone, like a grumpy
old man barking at the clouds.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah. Well, those brands had some New Zealand value, I guess,
and there may there may have been other options, but anyway,
it's been decided and that's the way the cookies crumbled,
and and let's see how it goes from here.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, Mark Delatour, thanks for some of your time. How's
Joseph Parker, because I know you went over there because
you're good mates with him. How is he?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, No, he's good.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
He's you know, he's a hell of a lot more
philosophical and you know, he's a professional athlete. So it
comes with the territory and he'll carry on. He's just
turned thirty four, so he's still got two or three
years of prime career ahead of him. So you know
he won't give up. He's the most focused, driven person
(12:30):
I know. So you know it's just a small bit
from heavy.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Back and he seems like a hell of a good bloke,
a great ambassador for New Zealand. Mark de Latour, Globe trotting,
Chief executive of Open Country Dairy. Thanks for your time,
Thanks mate, Thank you Mark twenty three after twelve you're
with the Country brought to you by Brent. We're going
to stick with Southland because I couldn't get him yesterday.
He's the second half of the Farmer Panel. Tim Dangin
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see how he's faring after the big blow down south
last Thursday. How did he vote in the Fonterra vote
as well? I think he might disagree with the sister
on that one. Rachel Sharer on woll Hamish Mackay on Sport,
Barry Soper on a fascinating week in politics and world affairs.
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Before the end of the hour.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
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Speaker 3 (13:36):
So you've heard from Mark Delator, chief executive of Open Country.
Derry when he got back from the Joseph Parker fight,
he took a flight to in Bicago to check on
the damage. Open Country's got a big catchment of suppliers
in the Deep South. Now our next guest is the
other half of the farmer panel from yesterday. I couldn't
quite sink them together. His sister, Emma Paul, was the
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twenty twenty three FMG Young Farmer of the Year. Tim Danshin,
who joins us now, won the title in twenty twenty two. Now, Tim,
I know that that the family farm is on west Auckland.
There you got smacked by cyclone Hail and Gabrielle. You
move down to Southland to get away from the tropical
storms lo and Behold. Do you think you're jinxed?
Speaker 9 (14:22):
It's a chance, Jami, But yeah, certainly I feel like
it's done to get a few notches on the bout. Now. Yeah,
it's been a challenging last eight days, but I think
they're back up and running on the farm.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Now.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
We're fully operational, so just to clean up begins, and
you're just making sure that we manage fatigue. Really, because
you're the staff and owners have been putting in some
mass of ours a few really big days. They're running
around the clock with generators and things like that. So
just trying to make sure that we look after people
first and if we get that part right, then the
rest of it will slowly take care of itself.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Mate.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
But it's it's a marathon, not a sprint. We know that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, you're a former Young Farmer of the Year. You
sheer milk for a former Young f Farmer of the Year.
Simon Hopcroft and the Hopcroft family very well known Southland
farming family. I'm assuming the farm that you're milking on
as a converted sheep farm. How are the fences, because
you're gonna have to fix a whole lot of fences
with all these trees down, And I can tell you
(15:17):
from experience that it's a lot easier to put up
a two wire fence than an eight wire.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
One, Yes, certainly is. So No, we've we've got to
leak ground conditions improve first. We've had a pretty rough
week of weather really following the wind, so it's weird
enough out there, but there is fine coming at sunny
down there today and we've got a fine patch of
weather ahead of us over the next week, so we'll
clear the trees and then yeah, there will be a
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lot of two wire offenses going up, replacing the original
sheep seven wire fences. But that's fine, we'll rip into it.
In the meantime. There's just hot wires everywhere keeping stock contained.
So we're just making sure that we keep the stock
healthy and milk and you're looking after our starff. Like
I say, but it is a bit of an extra workload,
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but we've got to make sure that we get on
top of it before mating starts at the end of
the week next week.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, So what is the storm going to do for
peak production?
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Well, I think most farms have been relatively unscathed. They've
gotten away with being able to keep the cows up
on their peak, so I think it won't have a
huge influence. So I know that the Edendale plant was
down about five million dollars five million liters rather the
day after the storm. But yeah, cows are pretty resilient
and as long as the well fed in it, they've
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got water, then yeah, they'll they'll keep on their plane
and it shouldn't have too much influence on the season
long term.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Your sister Emma Paul was on the show yesterday. She
voted against the font of the sale of the Fonterra
consumer Brands. You were a yes vote along with most
of the other Farmers shareholders.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
You happy, man, Yeah, I think it's a good result
all around, really, Jamie. It's it's an exciting direction for
the co op going forward. I think you know the
numbers speak for themselves, don't they that the last returning
portion of the business was around the consumer brands, and
only eight percent of the milk come. It's not a
large portion of it, it's still significant, But I think
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it's an exciting new direction for the co op. And yeah,
I've been a little bit frustrated by people saying that
we're going to struggle to add value just in the
ingredients space. But there's ingredients and therese ingredients, isn't there
Jamie's So yeah, we can still be making sure that
we're putting high, high quality, high value ingredients out there
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that will go into other high quality products. We don't
necessarily necessarily just have to have the brand and behind it.
So I think it's an exciting move mate. And yeah,
it's kind of put regional, regional, rural New Zealand flush
with cares for a period. Isn't it still be good
for the economy to see that silt of through.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, they're talking about a zero point seven percent lift
in GDP just off the back of this slone. So
it's very important not only for the primary sector but
also for the New Zealand economy.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
Oh absolutely. And there'll be a lot of generators being
born in the south and I know that, so everyone
will do different things or way they so it'll be
interesting to see what happens. Land values have already been
slowly creeping up off the anticipation that it's going to
go ahead, isn't it. So here there'll be a lot
of new infrastructure put on on farms and get repaid
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as well. And yeah, it's a really neat thing to see,
I think for all of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hey Tim Dangent, good luck with the recovery down on
the Riverton dairy farm. Thanks for your time here home,
we go out here, you go well to don't envy
the work in front of you. Good luck to all
those farmers. And I hope you get a bit of
a break this weekend. Maybe give yourself a couple of
hours off on Sunday morning instead of battling twenty four
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to seven on the farm. Go and watch the All Blacks.
Great viewing time. Ten past nine Sunday morning. Sports news
are coming up. But here's Michelle with the latest and
Rural News.
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Speaker 3 (19:08):
Douggist, are you a Halloween fan or disciple? I think
it's sort of slightly crassly commercial. It's been bought in
by retailers, and good luck to the retailers. But what
connection does New Zealand have with Halloween?
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Yeah, we don't really have a connection, to be honest,
do we. I mean, it's to celebrate the autumn solace,
So it's not a the's summer here?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Is that the official reason?
Speaker 10 (19:34):
That's one of the reasons. Yeah, it's a pagan holiday.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right there, you go. I wonder what it was for.
I just thought it was a holiday and where you
could go shopping? Okay, Michelle, what do you got for
rural news? Okay?
Speaker 10 (19:44):
And rerural news. A new survey shows the cost and
complexity of resource consents have reached breaking point, which highlights
the need for urgent government intervention. Federated Farmers survey on
resource consents found four out of five farmers are worried
about gaining or renewing consents, and the average bill for
gaining a new consent has hit nearly forty five thousand dollars.
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Renewal paramits aren't far behind, averaging twenty eight thousand dollars.
So hopefully we can. We might have to catch up
with Colin Harrist or one of the FEDS guys next
week about this, or maybe it's a question you can
put to David Seymour Andrew Hoggart since they're cutting all
the red tape.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
For fun, well, supposedly cutting the red tape. I see
David Clark, the guy who kicked all this off former
Federated Farmers. He's still saying, come on, make it easy
for us.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on, so it'll
be interesting to see what happens. I'd like to hear
Seymour's response.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Okay, we'll ask him. I'll probably get Winston on the show.
He's such a grumpy old man. At the moment, I
fear I may have a fight with Winston. It might
be a fight I can't win, but he's digging his
toes in this week not only over Fonterra but also
kind of almost undermining as Prime Minister. I'll tell you what.
The countdown to the twenty twenty six election has begun.
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That is Rural News with Michelle Sport with Atco.
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Wall Monthly. Here on the Country, we catch up with
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the team from PGG Rights and Wall to take a
look at the state of the market, and it would
be fair to say it's improved a lot. In fact,
it's twenty percent up year on year for strong wall,
which sounds good. But it's come off, of course, a
very low base, but at least we're heading in the
right direction. Rachel Sharer, You guys and the wall industry
across the board are trialing a new auction system. Gone
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are the old North and South Island weekly or fortnightly auctions?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie. Yes, we are trialing these national options.
We're looking instead of going fortnite about or a week
about at some stages during the year, looking at having
more regular options and that will be good, we believe,
for the cash flow for our growers, but also it
gives the buyers greater volume of wall to look at
and to phrenetically bid over.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Can the buyers still physically examine the wall touch it,
fail it, sniff it, smell it. I don't know what
you do when you're a wall buyer.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
They absolutely do all those things, and it's a really
important part of purchasing wall because well, as you know,
as a natural fiber, so it changes year on year
depending on what's gone on in the climate and what
the sheep's eaten and the whole bunch of things like that.
So alongside test data, we have buyers who come here
to our showroom before the options and they end the day,
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sometimes two days, going and inspecting every lot. And it's
really obvious to see in the open cry option that
what those different buyers view after they've seen and touched
and felt it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And you forgot sniffing.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
It and sniffing it. Of course, to be honest, they've
all got beautiful hands, all that landeline. You should see
their hands.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I can imagine it's like the wall handlers and the
wall class is beautiful hands. I know that because in
a past life I used to be a bit of
a farmer sharer. Actually, when we used to share, we
were always in the rousies back in the day when
they were very fussy. I'm not saying that aren't now,
but you had to take the eye clips out because
that was a lesser or a more downgraded part of
the flee You wanted that hairy stuff around the eyes
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away from the main fleece wall. Apparently someone in Australia
really wants some eye clips.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Well yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Three buyers came across from Australia for the last option
and they really brought some heat into the room that
eye clips were going for more than double the valuation.
So not just the Australian buyers, but some of the
New Zealand buyers as well, on behalf of their international clients.
They were going crazy for eye clips. So you wouldn't
have thought that back in the day.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Will these national actions be still in Napier and christ
Church or are you going to base them in one center?
Speaker 7 (24:52):
So we're trialing them across both islands.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
It makes sense at a global level, it absolutely makes
sense to do they are likely to be. It doesn't
make sense because on a volume basis we sell more
wall out of the North Island being crossbred, but on
a value basis we sell far more out of the
South Island. Given those fine wall options and having an
international airport here in christ Church helps bring those Australian
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buyers to the bench.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
So we're working our way through these trails over the
rest of.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
The year and then we'll make a decision as to
how we go from there.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Strong Walls as well, document that it's been a bit
of a battle for the past decade or so, but
it's on the improve, which is great. Fine Wall's been
largely pretty good, but it's having its battles at the moment.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Why is that it's a bit of an erratic market
at the moment. We follow the Australian market very closely
and there was a rapid rise up in Australia and
that has come back off significantly over the last couple
of weeks, but it still hasn't come off nearly to
the levels that it was, you know, sort of.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
A month or two ago.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
So while it has come back, it's still on previous months,
that's for sure, but it's just having a bit.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
More of a roller coaster ride in that final space.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Time is going to tell whether those at the far
end of supply chain whether they are going to.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Adjust to these new price levels.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
But we're hoping that momentum continues and it's a good
sign for a hard working growers, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Rachel Sharer from PGG Rights and Well good to catch up.
We'll see you in person, no doubt at the christ
Church Show.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yeah, looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yes, and make sure you join us at the christ
Church Show because on Thursday of the christ Church Show
Canterbury A and P Show. I'm not even sure what
they call it now. At one stage it was the
New Zealand Agricultural Show, which was stupid name because it's
the Canterbury or christ Church Show. Obviously it synonymous with
Canterbury and christ Church. That's why I can't remember its name.
I will get its name right by the time we
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get there because we're launching our twenty twenty five makaiser
at the show. Got to join us with the team
from Emerson's. The Tiny Pub will be Jamie talking about
grumpy old man yelling at Cloud's who was the only
politician during the Auckland floods who stopped went in and
was seen helping carry furniture out of a flooded house.
(27:12):
Was it Winston? No, Apparently the answer is Chippy Robbie.
That's a shocker. I can't read that one out, but
quite clever Jamie, you were a bit hard on Mark
de Latour. He was obviously bogger rights. Jen lock Mark
is always up for a bit of banter. Is a
bit like Damian O'Connor, And Bill says, if the brands
(27:34):
consumer brands are so good the Fonterra ones for New Zealand,
why didn't another New Zealand company buy them? I think
the answer there, Bill, there might be four point two
billion answers for that one. Up next, it is mackay
on Sport and Soper on politics.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
A real life while.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Just think.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
What a great Halloween song that is talking head psycho killer.
It'll be right in this man's wheelhouse. Not that he's
a psycho killer. He's Hamish mackay and he's having a
cup of tea at the Fielding Sallyards hamous joints us
for wait for it, Hamish, I've got a wee liner here.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
McKay on sport with farm lands protect your crops from
nasties this summer?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, hey, good on you, Hamish. Is there anything more
quintessential in New Zealand? And having a cup of tea
at the Fielding sale on a Friday because the Sallyards
are right in the middle of town.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Oh, it's just the best cheeky custard squeare You can't
get a park with them about a mile of the
Sallyard here today And actually nobody's even talking about the
all blacks. You're just talking about the prices he go
through the ring today. Unbelievable. It's well, I remember back
of the eighty selling pins of pins of yielding steers
for about what they're getting for one.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, mind you, you won't be going anywhere near a
customed square with your new slim line figure Hamish.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, Well, now that I've got a stomach the size
of a ping pong ball, apparently I can't. I can
sort of get through half of one. Yeah, the old
days we're not a two.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yea, maybe that's my problem, right mackay on sport, any
surprises in that all black team for you?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I was, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's so conservative and I just don't know when you know,
Ireland will be very hard in Chicago, so I kind
of understand that you want to stick with what basically
it's a winning team and winning formula from from last
time out. But she at what point are we going
to throw somebody the Reuben Loves or somebody like that.
What's the point in having Damien McKenzie on the bench
for this one Reuben Loves should be. I'm just a
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bit I think it's a bit conservative. And of course
there's been more fallout from from you know, the Jason
Holland departing after this to a thing. I don't know
whether there's a bit of trouble at Mill and I
just worry that maybe maybe grand Slams will sort of
cover over a few cracks, but let's hope that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, Hamish, do you know something I don't know? Because
you're a good man of a two man, very well
connected Jason Holland of course, great man of a two
rugby player. What do you heard?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, okay, well I'm just going to come out on
the record here and say that that it's the frustration
that was very clear for Leo McDonald leading to his
departure was it's Raiser. You know, Raiser is the gaffer.
But what Graham Henry did so beautifully and then hands
it was they delegated and they trusted to who they
(30:35):
delegated raised his way all the highway and there's a
real split between the Canterbury players, Crusader players and the
rest of the players.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Mind you, now, mind you that all Black managements is
like a shining beacon compared to Netbourne, New Zealand at
the moment. What are dogs breakfast?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah? Yeah, but we had the dogs breakfast, didn't We
were the Fosters at scenario, you know, and Raiser going
in there and demanding and saying, if I'm not made coach,
I'm off to England and then he does the whole
buller and you know, I'm yeah right now. The netball situation, yeah,
is almost laughable. But I don't know that rugby is
(31:10):
in quite the quite the heart we'd like it in
terms of what might play out after this tour.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And I see Mark Robinson's come out and had to
swipe at in Foster.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, no, I haven't seen that's what he is. He
sort of a bit.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Well, I think he's taken umbrage at some of the things.
I haven't read the story either, I just read the headline.
He's taken umbrage at some of the things that Foster
perhaps had on his book.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, well, Foster has every right.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
They have a bit of a crack factor.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean, Robinson has gone there to slay them, you know,
that's that's the reality. And it was just the same
white lot to this world. And who you know, I'm
not necessarily saying Sam was wanted to do this, but
they went into bat for Foster and probably give zumped
what Robinson was trying to achieve, which was to have
Razor in there sooner than later.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Great, another great man or two many just to finish
on and ash Burton. Today is the whaler Go Cup.
That is the test match between the All Black Dog
Trial Team and the Wallaby Dog Trill Team. No love
lost here, although they are all good mates apparently.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, look, I think that'll be you know, yeah, exactly,
they'll they'll lay down their weapons afterwards. But I you
know what we grew up on that beautiful time of
the seventies and the eighties with the dog trials on
a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Bring it back.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I mean you mentioned in It just makes me go,
you know, I'm trying to think of the two the
guy that won the first dog show back in the seventies,
was it?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Was it someone like Ginger Anderson?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Was there? You go, that's an encyclo people.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Wow, that's come off the top of my head.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
The oracle.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I come to the oracle.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Yeah, Anderson, Yeah, well, John, the late John Gordon was
of course the commentator and it brought the dog Trials
into every Kiwis living room.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was just a brilliant time. There'd
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Where is it today?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Ash Burton Showgrounds? So day one of a two day
Test match. So anyhow, Hamish, you enjoy the rest of
your half accustard square and your cup of tea at
the Fielding Saleyard's one of my favorite towns in the country.
You keep up the good work for Tremain's and Fielding.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Thank you and I love your hair too.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Jam it right.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
See there's hay mish McKay. What song was I playing into, Hamish?
I was doing a bit of Psycho Killer, wasn't I was? I?
Where was it? Where is it gone? It's on button
bar two? There it goes right one armed paper hanger.
And here today before I forget, because I'm good at
forgetting things. I think it's just when you get a
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wee bit older. And this is farm Strong. This is
a very important message before we go to Barry sooper.
A lot of farmers and growers goes without saying have
been hit by extreme weather lately, and we all know
how hard it can be to get going again. That's
why it's important to prioritize your well being, manage your workload,
(33:58):
and make time to connect with friends and neighbors. If
you're feeling under the pump, check out Farmstrong's getting through resources.
They share a ton of practical advice from people who
have been in your situation. That's farmstrong dot co dot
nz are for free tools and tips on getting through
these extreme weather events. And it's easy for me to
(34:20):
say sitting in an air conditioned radio studio, but you
farmers out there or business people who have been whacked
by these storms, take a couple of hours off on
Sunday morning and watch the all blacks up. Next Barry Sober,
we wrap the week in politics. We are wrapping the
(34:50):
country with Barry Sober on politics. This is Warren zevon
wear Wolves of London. Hey, you could describe Prince Andrew
as a were wolf from London or of London, Barry Soaper,
he's a bit of a predator, how are you? I
shouldn't say that, should I thank you very much, Prince
King Charles, should I say it probably didn't want to
(35:13):
have to do this, but it seems to me he's
got no choice.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Well indeed, and we're talking of course about mister Andrew
Mount Batton Windsor now, so that's what his title is,
mister and being thrown out of his royal digs as well.
So talk about a fall from grace. It's so rare, Jamie.
I tried to look through the animals of history to
see whether the title has been stripped before. But that's
(35:40):
very unusual just from a prince wood from a person
and Charles who was close, of course to his mother
the Queen Andrew was her favorite, and so she'll be
turning in her grave now. With the happenings at the
palace over the past twenty four hours, let's go.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
To Apec Trump and Luxon. Luxelon looked a wee bit
like an excited schoolboy there. Everyone's kind of everyone's kind
of bowing and scraping to Trump. The only one who
sort of not didn't stand up to him but through
gritted teeth put up with the elongated handshake, was President
She He's probably the only one powerful enough to go
toe to toe with.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Trump exactly, and you know, reminded me of the classroom bully.
That you know, people out of fear speak to him
and are nice to him, but are much more intelligent,
and they have to stand around paying due homage to
this man who apparently, and it seems true that he
(36:41):
rules the world, which is quite extraordinary. But that's what
comes with the presidency. I guess you know you are
the leader of the free world.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well, Joe Biden, sleepy, Joe, wasn't that aggressive. Look what
do you make of old Winston. I've been giving him
a bit of stick, and I like Winston, but he's
a grumpy old man, bark at cars, yelling at clouds,
whatever you want to do. Look, he's had a shot
at his Prime Minister with the iwe thing, and then
he's really poking his nose in with Fonterra, where I
believe anyhow it doesn't belong.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Well, no, interestingly that of course, he can't do anything
because it's a business. It's owned by farmers, and it's
over to farmers to do what they want with the business.
And that's exactly what they've done, almost ninety percent of them.
So you know, they've done pretty well. But yeah, Winston,
he was sparking at that particular dog. But you know,
(37:32):
you can see the argument Jamie that you know, long
old brands from New Zealand may now be faded out eventually,
but that doesn't stop than wanting the dairy product. So
there's an argument both ways and all of that, and
Winston yet I think he will probably try and turn
(37:54):
it into something of an election issue, just as he
does with the claims that we made by Chris Lax.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Exactly. There we go. Barry Soper wrapping the week in politics.
What is a country square? I may have misspoke. Maybe
it's a custard square we're talking about. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm aware Wolf with the Chinese menu in his hand,
welcoming through the streets of Soho in the rain.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He was looking for the police call the ho.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Fooks want to get a big diition in charm.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, London. Gooday, New Zealand, Good afternoon. Welcome to the Country.
Brought to you by Brent. Michelle's just rushed them with
my run sheet from the printer. I hate it when
the printer doesn't work. That's the first world problem compared
to what a lot of farmers have had to deal
with over the past week or so. We're going to
(00:56):
have a look at that story. But it is Halloween today.
Halloween music is the theme today. Chris Brandolino, We're going
to discuss some very scary stuff. Not hallowayin but what
the weather's been doing for the past ten or so days.
Mark Delatour, He's gone from London to in Icargol and
back to Auckland, chief executive of Open Country Dairy. What
(01:17):
does he make of the Fonterra vote in the Southland storms,
talking about Southland air Man and he was a one
man panel today. We had a sister yesterday, Tim Dangel,
former Young Farmer of the Year, Rachel Share of the
GM of PGG Wrights and having a look at the Wallmarket,
Hamish mackay and Mackay on sport, Barry Soper on politics,
Gee Prince Andrew Trump and lux and Chippy's cgt In
(01:42):
Winston just being a grumpy old man, right, oat, let's talk,
he said, looking at his screen Weather.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Weather on the country with farmlands, with clothing to keep
you cool, dry and protected this summer.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Chris Brandelino was NEWA was NEWA used to be Newa.
You're a sciences New Zealand. Was Halloween a big deal
when you were growing up as a kid?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh it was big? Yeah, I mean it. It was
a lot of fun, trick or treating, you know, dressing up.
I'm not much of a dress up person, but yeah, yes,
it's the short answer.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, it's bled. If that's the word. Its way to
New Zealand culture. I think it's just slightly grossly commercial.
But maybe I'm a maybe I'm a bit like Winston.
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man and I'm barking.
I'm barking at clouds. Is it barking at clouds yelling
at clouds?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Well, either one barking or yelling. You're allowed to bark
and yell, that is. I mean, if you want to
bark and yello at clouds, Jamie, who am I to
tell you that you're wrong? You know, whatever makes you happy, buddy, Well.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I reckon there's a lot of farmers at the moment
who are yelling at clouds every time one comes over,
and especially if they come over too quickly, because that
means there's a wind driving them. We chatted to you
last Thursday on the country, just on the eve. You
were warning about what the winds might do, and it
came true. But the interesting thing was they came through
(03:10):
lower then perhaps we were expecting.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, it depends on where you were. For the folks
in Southland and parts of Donna, you neck of the woods,
you know, Otago, lower Otago. Certainly that sting Jet, I think,
as we mentioned, did come through and did a real number.
I think North Canterbury did really bad as well, but
other areas perhaps certainly you know, not as bad. So
it wasn't. It wasn't right the way through Canterbury, that's
(03:34):
for sure. But nonetheless it's been a very active spring
with a lot of wind, a lot of rain on
the western part of the South Island, not enough rain
for eastern parts of the North Island. In fact, my
Steam colleague Chester, he just I guess a print or
printed I say, he just issued and wrote up our
latest hot spot report. So look for that on the
(03:54):
website to kind of talk about where dryness is and
what the outlook is for the next week in terms
of rain. Not a lot of rain, Jamie. I'm just
kind of stealing his thunder. There will be a few
spotty showers, maybe an odd downpour tomorrow across the central
North Island from the Rakumeras over toward Totof at the
Gizban and toward the Central Plateau and Waikato. A bit
(04:16):
of rain potentially there, but not a lot of rain.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
If I'm basically adding up the rain drops between now
and when we say next Thursday, it's gonna be the
western South Island that sees the most. But even there
we're talking maybe twenty thirty forty millimeters of rain at most,
very little if any for the eastern part of Boat Islands,
so not much rain through say Thursday of next week,
things will change. We'll maybe see a threat for showers,
(04:42):
maybe some downpours as we get toward the end of
next week, and I do want to let people know
that it is going to turn quite warm. So at
the moment we have a bit of a chili snap
that we're sort of dealing with the tail end, Jamie.
But I do think as we work away through the weekend,
and especially as we arrive in next week, we are
going to shift to a more decidedly warm weather pattern
(05:04):
for much of the country. And I do think as
we're you know, basically through the maybe second week of November,
unusual warmth is going to be a theme for much
of New Zealand as our airflow is expected the north
to northwest as a whole in broad Strokes.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, I think that'll be welcome by a lot of farmers,
a bit of an improvement and temperatures. Chris Brandolino, thanks
very much for your time and joy Halloween with the family.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hi, well, buddy, you'd be good so.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Chris Brandolino from Newer Earth Sciences, New Zealand these days. Okay,
up next he is. I think he's just landed in Auckland.
He's been in London. I'll tell you why in a tick.
And he's also been in the cargo. He's been everywhere.
Man Mark dallas Or, chief executive of Open Country Dairy
as second biggest dairy company in this country. What does
(05:55):
he make of the frontier of Tim Dungen former Young
Farmer of the Year Rache'll share Hamish McKay Harry's soper
lots on the show today.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Something from the door.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
He is the globe trotting chief executive of Open Country Dairy,
a second biggest dairy company in this country, obviously behind Fonterra.
We're going to come back to Fonterra. But Mark de Latour,
you've just come back from in Bicagoo. You've been down
there supporting your team down there, this horrendous damage on
some of the farms of your suppliers. But before that
(06:41):
you were in London at the Joseph Parker fight versus
Fabio Wardley. You move in and famous circles in Bicargo
in London.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
It seemed like such a good idea.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Jamie Gooda's name by the way. It seemed like such
a great idea until I realized I'm fifty four years
of age and jet leg hits me harder at this stage.
So I thought I'd just pop over watch Joe, give
them my support, and then head back and at the
end of labor weekend, which seems good on paper, but
when you get off the plane. I certainly felt every
hour of that last flight home, but well worth doing.
(07:15):
It's one of those things in life that you have
to do.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, come on, come on, mark first world problems. You
would have been sitting at the front, not the back.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
When boarding a plane that always turned left.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Ja.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, I'm with you on that one. But when you
fly down to him the cargo, you haven't got that choice.
Sometimes you've got to go in one of those little
prop planes, which aren't that easy either, especially the way
the weather is at the moment. But on a more
serious man, tell me what you saw on the ground
in Southland.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yeah, it's you know, you've got to feel for the
guys down there, and two two tough springs in a
row really for them, you know. And the season was
going so well, going gangbusters at good prices, and then
the second year running their spring is hammered, so you know,
we rallied around our farmers really well. I've got to
(08:06):
say most of my time was with talking to my team.
A few of the team were caught down in Balcluth
are just finishing up the farmer meetings and the storm
hitting it, and it hit just so suddenly, you know.
I think the windows of rental cars were broken and
everything for the team and took them about four or
five hours to get to get to Dunedin. But it
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was interesting with the team being and then Jamie, I
think within ten minutes they had enacted our disaster management
plan and I think the tankers were packed up for
an hour, no one was heard or any damage to gear,
but then started collecting straight away within an hour and
a half of that storm baiting. So the guys that
are a really really good job.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Late October peak production in Southland and in many darying regions.
How much is this storm and we'll stick with Southland
and Southwest Otago because you've been down there. How much
is this going to knock peak production and that? And
when it's knocked they tell me you never get it back.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Yeah, I guess that's true to some extent, I think,
you know, again back to the team is you know,
whilst it was definitely milk spilt, what we managed to
do is there were six big generators at our sister
company FCO that is used to plug in refer containers,
and we threw those six generators.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
On trucks and.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Drove them around to our farmers so they could at
least people could keep their sheds going and keep unloading
as much as possible. I think the team put in
six hundred and fifty thousand liters of water, that's the
number that's on the head.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Just to keep water for the farms as well.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
So I think there was no doubt that there's a
big amount of milk spilt in the conditions, but you know,
with the team supporting, I think our supplies hopefully fed
better than better than others. And I know that is
back up to about three point eight million leaders a
day right now, so let's just hope we can keep
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that production up.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So, Mark Delatour, you're the chief executive of our second
biggest dairy company, obviously Fonterra is the biggest by the
length of the strait. The farmers voted overwhelmingly to sell
their consumer brands, business to luck to lease. What do
you make of it?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yeah, I knew you'd ask me that question, daring.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Look, well, don't sit on the fans. Give me an
honest opinion.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
One thing I've all say is, look, you know, good
on the farmers. They're given two dollars this year and
I guess that's what I think.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
I've read.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
It's around four hundred thousand dollars on average for the farmers,
so you know them, good on them. If I think
I got off that, i'd vote for it as well.
But you know, I think at the end of the day,
it's a little disappointing for New Zealand. It is a shame,
you know, when you see Anchor and Mainland you've better
say those famous French brands and that.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
That hurts a little bit.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
You know whereundred percent New Zealand owned. And it is
a shame that that it's it's gone that way. But
I understand, you know, if if I didn't fundamentally think
that that the ingredient food service model was was correct,
open country to looked different when the jam that's our
business model has been.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Some basically Fonterra is that she should take this is flattery.
They're following your business model.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I think that pushed back on them following us, but
it is the same business model. And you know, we've
been very staunch and now moves not to be in
that consumer brand business. There's lots of overhead, lots of complexity, and.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well that's a good reason for Fonterra to get out
of it. Mark, you're sounding like Winstone, like a grumpy
old man barking at the clouds.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah. Well, those brands had some New Zealand value, I guess,
and there may there may have been other options, but anyway,
it's been decided and that's the way the cookies crumbled,
and and let's see how it goes from here.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, Mark Delatour, thanks for some of your time. How's
Joseph Parker, because I know you went over there because
you're good mates with him. How is he?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, No, he's good.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
He's you know, he's a hell of a lot more
philosophical and you know, he's a professional athlete. So it
comes with the territory and he'll carry on. He's just
turned thirty four, so he's still got two or three
years of prime career ahead of him. So you know
he won't give up. He's the most focused, driven person
(12:30):
I know. So you know it's just a small bit
from heavy.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Back and he seems like a hell of a good bloke,
a great ambassador for New Zealand. Mark de Latour, Globe trotting,
Chief executive of Open Country Dairy. Thanks for your time,
Thanks mate, Thank you Mark twenty three after twelve you're
with the Country brought to you by Brent. We're going
to stick with Southland because I couldn't get him yesterday.
He's the second half of the Farmer Panel. Tim Dangin
(12:57):
see how he's faring after the big blow down south
last Thursday. How did he vote in the Fonterra vote
as well? I think he might disagree with the sister
on that one. Rachel Sharer on woll Hamish Mackay on Sport,
Barry Soper on a fascinating week in politics and world affairs.
(13:17):
Before the end of the hour.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
The.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Farmer Panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute built
off with truck DNA.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So you've heard from Mark Delator, chief executive of Open Country.
Derry when he got back from the Joseph Parker fight,
he took a flight to in Bicago to check on
the damage. Open Country's got a big catchment of suppliers
in the Deep South. Now our next guest is the
other half of the farmer panel from yesterday. I couldn't
quite sink them together. His sister, Emma Paul, was the
(13:59):
twenty twenty three FMG Young Farmer of the Year. Tim Danshin,
who joins us now, won the title in twenty twenty two. Now, Tim,
I know that that the family farm is on west Auckland.
There you got smacked by cyclone Hail and Gabrielle. You
move down to Southland to get away from the tropical
storms lo and Behold. Do you think you're jinxed?
Speaker 9 (14:22):
It's a chance, Jami, But yeah, certainly I feel like
it's done to get a few notches on the bout. Now. Yeah,
it's been a challenging last eight days, but I think
they're back up and running on the farm.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Now.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
We're fully operational, so just to clean up begins, and
you're just making sure that we manage fatigue. Really, because
you're the staff and owners have been putting in some
mass of ours a few really big days. They're running
around the clock with generators and things like that. So
just trying to make sure that we look after people
first and if we get that part right, then the
rest of it will slowly take care of itself.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Mate.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
But it's it's a marathon, not a sprint. We know that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, you're a former Young Farmer of the Year. You
sheer milk for a former Young f Farmer of the Year.
Simon Hopcroft and the Hopcroft family very well known Southland
farming family. I'm assuming the farm that you're milking on
as a converted sheep farm. How are the fences, because
you're gonna have to fix a whole lot of fences
with all these trees down, And I can tell you
(15:17):
from experience that it's a lot easier to put up
a two wire fence than an eight wire.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
One, Yes, certainly is. So No, we've we've got to
leak ground conditions improve first. We've had a pretty rough
week of weather really following the wind, so it's weird
enough out there, but there is fine coming at sunny
down there today and we've got a fine patch of
weather ahead of us over the next week, so we'll
clear the trees and then yeah, there will be a
(15:42):
lot of two wire offenses going up, replacing the original
sheep seven wire fences. But that's fine, we'll rip into it.
In the meantime. There's just hot wires everywhere keeping stock contained.
So we're just making sure that we keep the stock
healthy and milk and you're looking after our starff. Like
I say, but it is a bit of an extra workload,
(16:02):
but we've got to make sure that we get on
top of it before mating starts at the end of
the week next week.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, So what is the storm going to do for
peak production?
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Well, I think most farms have been relatively unscathed. They've
gotten away with being able to keep the cows up
on their peak, so I think it won't have a
huge influence. So I know that the Edendale plant was
down about five million dollars five million liters rather the
day after the storm. But yeah, cows are pretty resilient
and as long as the well fed in it, they've
(16:34):
got water, then yeah, they'll they'll keep on their plane
and it shouldn't have too much influence on the season
long term.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Your sister Emma Paul was on the show yesterday. She
voted against the font of the sale of the Fonterra
consumer Brands. You were a yes vote along with most
of the other Farmers shareholders.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
You happy, man, Yeah, I think it's a good result
all around, really, Jamie. It's it's an exciting direction for
the co op going forward. I think you know the
numbers speak for themselves, don't they that the last returning
portion of the business was around the consumer brands, and
only eight percent of the milk come. It's not a
large portion of it, it's still significant, But I think
(17:13):
it's an exciting new direction for the co op. And yeah,
I've been a little bit frustrated by people saying that
we're going to struggle to add value just in the
ingredients space. But there's ingredients and therese ingredients, isn't there
Jamie's So yeah, we can still be making sure that
we're putting high, high quality, high value ingredients out there
(17:33):
that will go into other high quality products. We don't
necessarily necessarily just have to have the brand and behind it.
So I think it's an exciting move mate. And yeah,
it's kind of put regional, regional, rural New Zealand flush
with cares for a period. Isn't it still be good
for the economy to see that silt of through.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, they're talking about a zero point seven percent lift
in GDP just off the back of this slone. So
it's very important not only for the primary sector but
also for the New Zealand economy.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
Oh absolutely. And there'll be a lot of generators being
born in the south and I know that, so everyone
will do different things or way they so it'll be
interesting to see what happens. Land values have already been
slowly creeping up off the anticipation that it's going to
go ahead, isn't it. So here there'll be a lot
of new infrastructure put on on farms and get repaid
(18:23):
as well. And yeah, it's a really neat thing to see,
I think for all of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hey Tim Dangent, good luck with the recovery down on
the Riverton dairy farm. Thanks for your time here home,
we go out here, you go well to don't envy
the work in front of you. Good luck to all
those farmers. And I hope you get a bit of
a break this weekend. Maybe give yourself a couple of
hours off on Sunday morning instead of battling twenty four
(18:48):
to seven on the farm. Go and watch the All Blacks.
Great viewing time. Ten past nine Sunday morning. Sports news
are coming up. But here's Michelle with the latest and
Rural News.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The country's world news with cop Cadet, New Zealand's leading
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Speaker 3 (19:08):
Douggist, are you a Halloween fan or disciple? I think
it's sort of slightly crassly commercial. It's been bought in
by retailers, and good luck to the retailers. But what
connection does New Zealand have with Halloween?
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Yeah, we don't really have a connection, to be honest,
do we. I mean, it's to celebrate the autumn solace,
So it's not a the's summer here?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Is that the official reason?
Speaker 10 (19:34):
That's one of the reasons. Yeah, it's a pagan holiday.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right there, you go. I wonder what it was for.
I just thought it was a holiday and where you
could go shopping? Okay, Michelle, what do you got for
rural news? Okay?
Speaker 10 (19:44):
And rerural news. A new survey shows the cost and
complexity of resource consents have reached breaking point, which highlights
the need for urgent government intervention. Federated Farmers survey on
resource consents found four out of five farmers are worried
about gaining or renewing consents, and the average bill for
gaining a new consent has hit nearly forty five thousand dollars.
(20:04):
Renewal paramits aren't far behind, averaging twenty eight thousand dollars.
So hopefully we can. We might have to catch up
with Colin Harrist or one of the FEDS guys next
week about this, or maybe it's a question you can
put to David Seymour Andrew Hoggart since they're cutting all
the red tape.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
For fun, well, supposedly cutting the red tape. I see
David Clark, the guy who kicked all this off former
Federated Farmers. He's still saying, come on, make it easy
for us.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on, so it'll
be interesting to see what happens. I'd like to hear
Seymour's response.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Okay, we'll ask him. I'll probably get Winston on the show.
He's such a grumpy old man. At the moment, I
fear I may have a fight with Winston. It might
be a fight I can't win, but he's digging his
toes in this week not only over Fonterra but also
kind of almost undermining as Prime Minister. I'll tell you what.
The countdown to the twenty twenty six election has begun.
(20:58):
That is Rural News with Michelle Sport with Atco.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Visit their new website at alfco dot co dot zeed.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Keew driver Liam Lawson's hopes of our twenty twenty six
Formula One seat may have gotten a boost his Maine
with his main rival link to another series. American media
are reporting that Red Bull's Yuki Sonoda is set to
join IndyCar team dale Con Racing next year. Sonoda's links
to Honda could save him. I thin because old man
owns it, doesn't he something like that? With five of
(21:29):
the twelve IndyCars backed by the Japanese supplier, A, Red
Bull have delayed the decision over the twenty twenty six
lineups until after December's Qatar Grand Prix. At the earliest
and Northern District's past bowling all round a Christian Clark
has been caught up to the New Zealand cricket team
for the first time. The twenty four year old replaces
(21:49):
the injured Matt Henry ahead of tomorrow's third and final
One Day International against England and Wellington. Haven't we been
doing well in those? Odiis up next? Rachel Sharer on
Wall Monthly. Here on the Country, we catch up with
(22:12):
the team from PGG Rights and Wall to take a
look at the state of the market, and it would
be fair to say it's improved a lot. In fact,
it's twenty percent up year on year for strong wall,
which sounds good. But it's come off, of course, a
very low base, but at least we're heading in the
right direction. Rachel Sharer, You guys and the wall industry
across the board are trialing a new auction system. Gone
(22:36):
are the old North and South Island weekly or fortnightly auctions?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie. Yes, we are trialing these national options.
We're looking instead of going fortnite about or a week
about at some stages during the year, looking at having
more regular options and that will be good, we believe,
for the cash flow for our growers, but also it
gives the buyers greater volume of wall to look at
and to phrenetically bid over.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Can the buyers still physically examine the wall touch it,
fail it, sniff it, smell it. I don't know what
you do when you're a wall buyer.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
They absolutely do all those things, and it's a really
important part of purchasing wall because well, as you know,
as a natural fiber, so it changes year on year
depending on what's gone on in the climate and what
the sheep's eaten and the whole bunch of things like that.
So alongside test data, we have buyers who come here
to our showroom before the options and they end the day,
(23:34):
sometimes two days, going and inspecting every lot. And it's
really obvious to see in the open cry option that
what those different buyers view after they've seen and touched
and felt it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And you forgot sniffing.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
It and sniffing it. Of course, to be honest, they've
all got beautiful hands, all that landeline. You should see
their hands.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I can imagine it's like the wall handlers and the
wall class is beautiful hands. I know that because in
a past life I used to be a bit of
a farmer sharer. Actually, when we used to share, we
were always in the rousies back in the day when
they were very fussy. I'm not saying that aren't now,
but you had to take the eye clips out because
that was a lesser or a more downgraded part of
the flee You wanted that hairy stuff around the eyes
(24:18):
away from the main fleece wall. Apparently someone in Australia
really wants some eye clips.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Well yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Three buyers came across from Australia for the last option
and they really brought some heat into the room that
eye clips were going for more than double the valuation.
So not just the Australian buyers, but some of the
New Zealand buyers as well, on behalf of their international clients.
They were going crazy for eye clips. So you wouldn't
have thought that back in the day.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Will these national actions be still in Napier and christ
Church or are you going to base them in one center?
Speaker 7 (24:52):
So we're trialing them across both islands.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
It makes sense at a global level, it absolutely makes
sense to do they are likely to be. It doesn't
make sense because on a volume basis we sell more
wall out of the North Island being crossbred, but on
a value basis we sell far more out of the
South Island. Given those fine wall options and having an
international airport here in christ Church helps bring those Australian
(25:18):
buyers to the bench.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
So we're working our way through these trails over the
rest of.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
The year and then we'll make a decision as to
how we go from there.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Strong Walls as well, document that it's been a bit
of a battle for the past decade or so, but
it's on the improve, which is great. Fine Wall's been
largely pretty good, but it's having its battles at the moment.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Why is that it's a bit of an erratic market
at the moment. We follow the Australian market very closely
and there was a rapid rise up in Australia and
that has come back off significantly over the last couple
of weeks, but it still hasn't come off nearly to
the levels that it was, you know, sort of.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
A month or two ago.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
So while it has come back, it's still on previous months,
that's for sure, but it's just having a bit.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
More of a roller coaster ride in that final space.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Time is going to tell whether those at the far
end of supply chain whether they are going to.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Adjust to these new price levels.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
But we're hoping that momentum continues and it's a good
sign for a hard working growers, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Rachel Sharer from PGG Rights and Well good to catch up.
We'll see you in person, no doubt at the christ
Church Show.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yeah, looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yes, and make sure you join us at the christ
Church Show because on Thursday of the christ Church Show
Canterbury A and P Show. I'm not even sure what
they call it now. At one stage it was the
New Zealand Agricultural Show, which was stupid name because it's
the Canterbury or christ Church Show. Obviously it synonymous with
Canterbury and christ Church. That's why I can't remember its name.
I will get its name right by the time we
(26:50):
get there because we're launching our twenty twenty five makaiser
at the show. Got to join us with the team
from Emerson's. The Tiny Pub will be Jamie talking about
grumpy old man yelling at Cloud's who was the only
politician during the Auckland floods who stopped went in and
was seen helping carry furniture out of a flooded house.
(27:12):
Was it Winston? No, Apparently the answer is Chippy Robbie.
That's a shocker. I can't read that one out, but
quite clever Jamie, you were a bit hard on Mark
de Latour. He was obviously bogger rights. Jen lock Mark
is always up for a bit of banter. Is a
bit like Damian O'Connor, And Bill says, if the brands
(27:34):
consumer brands are so good the Fonterra ones for New Zealand,
why didn't another New Zealand company buy them? I think
the answer there, Bill, there might be four point two
billion answers for that one. Up next, it is mackay
on Sport and Soper on politics.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
A real life while.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Just think.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
What a great Halloween song that is talking head psycho killer.
It'll be right in this man's wheelhouse. Not that he's
a psycho killer. He's Hamish mackay and he's having a
cup of tea at the Fielding Sallyards hamous joints us
for wait for it, Hamish, I've got a wee liner here.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
McKay on sport with farm lands protect your crops from
nasties this summer?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, hey, good on you, Hamish. Is there anything more
quintessential in New Zealand? And having a cup of tea
at the Fielding sale on a Friday because the Sallyards
are right in the middle of town.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Oh, it's just the best cheeky custard squeare You can't
get a park with them about a mile of the
Sallyard here today And actually nobody's even talking about the
all blacks. You're just talking about the prices he go
through the ring today. Unbelievable. It's well, I remember back
of the eighty selling pins of pins of yielding steers
for about what they're getting for one.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, mind you, you won't be going anywhere near a
customed square with your new slim line figure Hamish.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, Well, now that I've got a stomach the size
of a ping pong ball, apparently I can't. I can
sort of get through half of one. Yeah, the old
days we're not a two.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yea, maybe that's my problem, right mackay on sport, any
surprises in that all black team for you?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I was, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's so conservative and I just don't know when you know,
Ireland will be very hard in Chicago, so I kind
of understand that you want to stick with what basically
it's a winning team and winning formula from from last
time out. But she at what point are we going
to throw somebody the Reuben Loves or somebody like that.
What's the point in having Damien McKenzie on the bench
for this one Reuben Loves should be. I'm just a
(29:46):
bit I think it's a bit conservative. And of course
there's been more fallout from from you know, the Jason
Holland departing after this to a thing. I don't know
whether there's a bit of trouble at Mill and I
just worry that maybe maybe grand Slams will sort of
cover over a few cracks, but let's hope that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, Hamish, do you know something I don't know? Because
you're a good man of a two man, very well
connected Jason Holland of course, great man of a two
rugby player. What do you heard?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, okay, well I'm just going to come out on
the record here and say that that it's the frustration
that was very clear for Leo McDonald leading to his
departure was it's Raiser. You know, Raiser is the gaffer.
But what Graham Henry did so beautifully and then hands
it was they delegated and they trusted to who they
(30:35):
delegated raised his way all the highway and there's a
real split between the Canterbury players, Crusader players and the
rest of the players.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Mind you, now, mind you that all Black managements is
like a shining beacon compared to Netbourne, New Zealand at
the moment. What are dogs breakfast?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah? Yeah, but we had the dogs breakfast, didn't We
were the Fosters at scenario, you know, and Raiser going
in there and demanding and saying, if I'm not made coach,
I'm off to England and then he does the whole
buller and you know, I'm yeah right now. The netball situation, yeah,
is almost laughable. But I don't know that rugby is
(31:10):
in quite the quite the heart we'd like it in
terms of what might play out after this tour.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And I see Mark Robinson's come out and had to
swipe at in Foster.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, no, I haven't seen that's what he is. He
sort of a bit.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Well, I think he's taken umbrage at some of the things.
I haven't read the story either, I just read the headline.
He's taken umbrage at some of the things that Foster
perhaps had on his book.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, well, Foster has every right.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
They have a bit of a crack factor.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean, Robinson has gone there to slay them, you know,
that's that's the reality. And it was just the same
white lot to this world. And who you know, I'm
not necessarily saying Sam was wanted to do this, but
they went into bat for Foster and probably give zumped
what Robinson was trying to achieve, which was to have
Razor in there sooner than later.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Great, another great man or two many just to finish
on and ash Burton. Today is the whaler Go Cup.
That is the test match between the All Black Dog
Trial Team and the Wallaby Dog Trill Team. No love
lost here, although they are all good mates apparently.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, look, I think that'll be you know, yeah, exactly,
they'll they'll lay down their weapons afterwards. But I you
know what we grew up on that beautiful time of
the seventies and the eighties with the dog trials on
a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Bring it back.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I mean you mentioned in It just makes me go,
you know, I'm trying to think of the two the
guy that won the first dog show back in the seventies,
was it?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Was it someone like Ginger Anderson?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Was there? You go, that's an encyclo people.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Wow, that's come off the top of my head.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
The oracle.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I come to the oracle.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Yeah, Anderson, Yeah, well, John, the late John Gordon was
of course the commentator and it brought the dog Trials
into every Kiwis living room.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was just a brilliant time. There'd
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Where is it today?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Ash Burton Showgrounds? So day one of a two day
Test match. So anyhow, Hamish, you enjoy the rest of
your half accustard square and your cup of tea at
the Fielding Saleyard's one of my favorite towns in the country.
You keep up the good work for Tremain's and Fielding.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Thank you and I love your hair too.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Jam it right.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
See there's hay mish McKay. What song was I playing into, Hamish?
I was doing a bit of Psycho Killer, wasn't I was? I?
Where was it? Where is it gone? It's on button
bar two? There it goes right one armed paper hanger.
And here today before I forget, because I'm good at
forgetting things. I think it's just when you get a
(33:38):
wee bit older. And this is farm Strong. This is
a very important message before we go to Barry sooper.
A lot of farmers and growers goes without saying have
been hit by extreme weather lately, and we all know
how hard it can be to get going again. That's
why it's important to prioritize your well being, manage your workload,
(33:58):
and make time to connect with friends and neighbors. If
you're feeling under the pump, check out Farmstrong's getting through resources.
They share a ton of practical advice from people who
have been in your situation. That's farmstrong dot co dot
nz are for free tools and tips on getting through
these extreme weather events. And it's easy for me to
(34:20):
say sitting in an air conditioned radio studio, but you
farmers out there or business people who have been whacked
by these storms, take a couple of hours off on
Sunday morning and watch the all blacks up. Next Barry Sober,
we wrap the week in politics. We are wrapping the
(34:50):
country with Barry Sober on politics. This is Warren zevon
wear Wolves of London. Hey, you could describe Prince Andrew
as a were wolf from London or of London, Barry Soaper,
he's a bit of a predator, how are you? I
shouldn't say that, should I thank you very much, Prince
King Charles, should I say it probably didn't want to
(35:13):
have to do this, but it seems to me he's
got no choice.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Well indeed, and we're talking of course about mister Andrew
Mount Batton Windsor now, so that's what his title is,
mister and being thrown out of his royal digs as well.
So talk about a fall from grace. It's so rare, Jamie.
I tried to look through the animals of history to
see whether the title has been stripped before. But that's
(35:40):
very unusual just from a prince wood from a person
and Charles who was close, of course to his mother
the Queen Andrew was her favorite, and so she'll be
turning in her grave now. With the happenings at the
palace over the past twenty four hours, let's go.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
To Apec Trump and Luxon. Luxelon looked a wee bit
like an excited schoolboy there. Everyone's kind of everyone's kind
of bowing and scraping to Trump. The only one who
sort of not didn't stand up to him but through
gritted teeth put up with the elongated handshake, was President
She He's probably the only one powerful enough to go
toe to toe with.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Trump exactly, and you know, reminded me of the classroom bully.
That you know, people out of fear speak to him
and are nice to him, but are much more intelligent,
and they have to stand around paying due homage to
this man who apparently, and it seems true that he
(36:41):
rules the world, which is quite extraordinary. But that's what
comes with the presidency. I guess you know you are
the leader of the free world.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well, Joe Biden, sleepy, Joe, wasn't that aggressive. Look what
do you make of old Winston. I've been giving him
a bit of stick, and I like Winston, but he's
a grumpy old man, bark at cars, yelling at clouds,
whatever you want to do. Look, he's had a shot
at his Prime Minister with the iwe thing, and then
he's really poking his nose in with Fonterra, where I
believe anyhow it doesn't belong.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Well, no, interestingly that of course, he can't do anything
because it's a business. It's owned by farmers, and it's
over to farmers to do what they want with the business.
And that's exactly what they've done, almost ninety percent of them.
So you know, they've done pretty well. But yeah, Winston,
he was sparking at that particular dog. But you know,
(37:32):
you can see the argument Jamie that you know, long
old brands from New Zealand may now be faded out eventually,
but that doesn't stop than wanting the dairy product. So
there's an argument both ways and all of that, and
Winston yet I think he will probably try and turn
(37:54):
it into something of an election issue, just as he
does with the claims that we made by Chris Lax.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Exactly. There we go. Barry Soper wrapping the week in politics.
What is a country square? I may have misspoke. Maybe
it's a custard square we're talking about. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
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