September 4, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to George Dodson and Hugh Jackson, Kevin "Smiley" Barrett, Chris Brandolino, and Jeremy Rookes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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A Feeding Marto.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Solar and so the feeling good Afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome
to the Country. The show is brought to you by
Brand Do a quick mathematics in my head? How long?
Thirty one years ago? Nineteen ninety four? This is what
we were listening to top song on New Zealand Radio,
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Wet Wet, Wet Lovers all Around from the movie Four
Weddings and a Funeral by memory and nineteen ninety four
was the last time the All Blacks lost at Eden Park.
We are going to chat to a man who has
sired twenty percent of the starting All Black fifteen. See
how Carving's going on his Taranaki farm. I think he's
heading up the road tomorrow to watch the test Smiley Barrett.
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But we're going to kick it off with Raysmith, Director
General of MPI, doubling Dairy Paris. Should we stay or
should we go? And have we beaten Ovius. Today's Farmer Panel,
the Young Farmer Panel. One's the incumbent Young Farmer of
the Year Hugh Jackson. The other bloke, George Dodson, won
the title last year twenty twenty four. Chris Brandolino Friday
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weather guy from Earth Sciences, New Zealand. They have come
out with their spring out look. We'll see Watson Store
for you. And of course the big game for me,
believe it or not, this weekend is not actually the
test or I have been waiting two years for this test.
The biggest game for me is the Stags defending the
Ranfilly Shield against Canterbury. So I thought just to even
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things up a bit, so I don't go on too
much about the Stags. I'd get the most annoying Cantabria.
And I know on the show he'll wrap the show
later and maybe Barry Sober if I can track him
down as well. But Ray Smith, director General of MPI,
to kick off the show as we play songs from
nineteen ninety four miss.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
In Everything.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
He is the Director General of MPI. His name is
Ray Smith. Ray lots to talk about today. Now, you
guys at MPI, I'm going to give you a pat
on the back here because earlier in the week I
had a guy by the name of Mark Townsend who
was a founding director of Fonterra large scale dairy farmer
on the show. Do you know the bloke?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
No, I didn't know much.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And you know what he said to me. He's leading
a ginger group mentoring younger farmers to try and do
the heavy lifting around and increasing production for the dairy sector.
And he spoke to several bureaucrats, including from Fonterra, Dairy
and z the government and MPI, and he's told me,
I don't know if I should say this, that the
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best response he got was from MPI. That's promising.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
We shouldn't be so surprised, Jamie. That's a great well,
that's a great accommendation for my boats. Look, I mean,
look the dairy sector, if you think about it, it's
what we do. We do lots of things in New
Zealand that were great it but the thing we're best
in the world at is dairy production. As we most
of our capability is our experience a big manufacturing plants
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and our farming practices are world leading and a great climate.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well hang on, not not if I'm to believe doctor
Mike Joy.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Oh well yeah, well Look, you know, there's always going
to be those folks that have got an alternative view
to what we do in the primary sector. But look,
you and I know and probably everyone listening here that
you know what we're best at as pastoral based farming,
and we should do more of what we best in
the world at. That's how we generate wealth for our
communities and our economy. And you know New Zealand neads
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that right now.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now the government wants to double export earnings in the
next decade. It's a very lofty goal, but Mark Townsends
group they're saying we can lift it by fifty percent
within the next decade, which would when itself, would be
a wonderful achievement if they can do that, a Raysmith
from MPI, can you do that and still keep or
look after the environment.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Look, we know a whole lot more than we did,
say twenty years ago, Jamie, when you know, environmental concerns
really started to come to the fore. And look since then,
you know the changes in farming practices, how we look
after waterways, what we know about nitrates, leaching and how
to control for that. We're in a whole different place
than we were twenty years ago. And look, you've got
to earn your right to grow when you're using natural resources,
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and I think our pastoral farming sector has that right.
We are much more careful about what we do. Everyone's
very conscious about environmental matters. All New Zealanders and all
farmers I meet care about the environment. So I think
we've got plenty of rooms for both. We can grow
and we can look after the environment. In fact, we
can make good returns for the environment.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Am I allowed to ask you about Paris? Are you
going to duck for cover?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Sure, you can ask me anything.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Jane right, and are out? Should we stay or should
we go?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, look, I mean politicians will make those choices ultimately.
But what we're very focused on here, and it's a
core goal here at MPI, is to make sure that
we've got in the hands of farmers' solutions to reducing
methane on their farms by twenty three. And look, I
visited a company yesterday in Auckland that's developing a bowler
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says that it will be one of the early technologies
that will either get released into the market towards the
end of this year or early next year. It's going
through its registration process, so we'll make sure it's safe
to use. There are vaccines, vaccine companies I'm meeting with.
They are well developed now and what they're producing. We're
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going to solve this methane issue for farming without kind
of well, in fact, it's going to allow us to
produce more, will reduce methane from cars, that will allow
us to increase production further and reduce our overall climate emissions.
And we'll do this in a way that means that
farmers have lots of options and choices.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay, methane's one part of the puzzle. Mike Joways banging
on about nitrates and our waterways.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, but I think that's the point I was making
is twenty years ago we knew a lot less about
nitreats and waterways. We know a whole lot more about
now how to protect and stop that from happening or
reduce the impacts, and whether that's kind of the way
in which fertilizer companies and the representatives work with farmers
to reduce the impact or fertilizer application, whether it's the
riperian planting, or just the way that we that we
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graze our stock and our animals. We look, we know
a whole lot more and there are more technologies that
are being developed. We're not standing still in the primary sector.
We're growing and changing all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
When it comes to biosecurity. MPI is the Ethander group,
the Cody Taylor, the Fletcher Nule. You are the front
row of the defense of pattern. Here's a question for you.
Can we declare mbovius beaten?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, if we get to November, Jamie with no cases
through the spring on farms, we will declare provisional excellence
of Mbovus in New Zealand, and then we will have
another two year period will we will be assuming there's
no cases, we will be able to say that we
are free of it. So it's quite a long process
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you've got to get through with the Animal Health Organization
to be able to do this. But hey, November is
a really big market for some mere going well so far,
you know, we're about halfway there through this period of
spring and assuming we get nearby November, that'll be a
massive market. And we've done an amazing thing to keep
that out of the country.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, no other country has done it, so well done, MPI.
If you can call that one that rabit out of
the hat. Just to finish on, you've been on the
road for the past couple of weeks. You've been in
your home province of Taranaki also in the Waikara region.
Those two places used to have a thing called the
logger Wood. We've got it in Southland now. Ray.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, well the workout a was they took it off
Pardanaka o the week but it ended up in self.
But you've got a tough challenge this weekend. So there'll
be a great one Tadanaki and Kennerbury. There'd be a
great one to get along to. Look plenty happening around
the country. You know, I've been out and about. I
went through the Capuni urea plant that balance runs the air,
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which was when I was a cheat growing up in Padanaki.
It was just being built as part of the Think
Big projects and so I spent a few hours out
there with the team there. You know, challenges there is.
Energy supply issue has become a real feature in the
guess industry. But they do an amazing jobs. It's incredible
people working in these places. And I was at a
camera farm with a young couple up in Dargable just
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last week and sitting around the kitchen, we're just talking
about how they'd recovered from the severe floods in twenty
twenty three and how they're making you go. But that's
quite a tough gig Kuma growing actually. So I look
across the country, whether it's our big players or are
small ones. You know, it's not a straight line. But
the primary seat is doing well and you've got to
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hand it to the people on farms and the people
in the factories and the people in markets. I feel
really proud about the primary sect that we're doing a
good job.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Hey, Ray Smith, thanks for your time today on the country.
You always enjoy catching up. You keep up the good
work keeping our borders safe.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Thanks amen, and enjoy the game on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'll enjoy both games, thank you, Ray. A bit of
a Foddy theme on the show today. Why not up
next our farmer panel, the young farmers George Dodson and
Hugh Jackson. One of them is in Canterbury, Enemy territory.
If you're a Stags fan, are the other ones in
the Wyehado? Interestingly, I think they're both Stags fans. Let's
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ask them next. George Dodson and Hugh Jackson before the
end of the hour, Smiley Barrett, Chris Brendolino in the
most Annoying contebriaryon I know.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well the farmer panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi
ute built tough with truck DNA.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Today's farmer panel is the Young Farmer panel, and we've
gone straight to the top drawer. Yes, the twenty twenty
four Young Farmer of the Year FMG Young Farmer of
the Year George Dodson twenty twenty five. This year's Young
Farmer of the Year, Hugh Jackson. You I want to
start with you and tr Cow congratulations for wearing your
Southland Stags jersey along to a why Kaddow Shield challenge.
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Even though you're living in that province. You're a true Southlander,
even if only by adoption.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Thanggy Jamie. Yeah, it was a cool game on Sunday.
That's asure I headed along with a lot of the
tiak Our locals and we went in supported the Stags.
Even though I'm definitely a wakeout a man my time
in south and I really enjoyed supporting the Stags when
I was down there and was fortunate enough to get
a South And shirt given to me when I left.
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So great thrill to see the Stags get up and
get the shield, even though it's against my home team.
And also we were really cool to see a good
family friend in local George Reeves get on for the
Stags in the last twenty minutes of the game, so
hopefully they can do it again this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
George Dodson, you're in Canterbury. That's enemy territory for us
Stags fan but to your credit you were born and
bred in Southland, and like you too because you two
were mates at the Thorn very Young Farmers Club down
on Southland just outside of him for Cargo, you're a
Stags fan as well.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah, Jamie, Yeah, that's absolutely right, one hundred percent supporting
the Stags. I suppose Southend and Canterbury will both fancy
their chances of Stags at the homeground of Rugby Park
and then Canterbury top of the off the top of
the table. Sorry, and you know it'll be certainly interesting
clash tribalism.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It brings out the best NPC rugby. Let's talk about farming.
I'll stick with you, George, you're dairy farming. And I
was going to say dun Sandal, but you're in Darfield
aren't you.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah, sort about Dartfield waye okay out Darfield Way.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
How's the carving going? Are you getting near the end,
getting near the finish line?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, we'll we'll be about three quarters done now. So
we started quite late, but we're just finished up our
first three weeks and we're absolutely cranking through them there
for a while, but starting to settle down now, forming
a good routine and really starting to get some stuff done,
which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Were you a wee bit concerned about that reasonable drop
in the GDT auction midweek or is that just sort
of what happens at this time a year. Don't panic.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, I suppose it's just pretty standard, isn't it. You know,
we were just hope that it will continue to go up,
and it's still looking pretty good, So no complaints from me.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Hugh Jackson and c RW congratulations. By the way, Hugh
fronting up on behalf of New Zealand Farmers on Q
and A with Jack Tame. He did a really I thought,
a really telling interview with you, and it's about the
dangers and the perils of carbon farming. I'm pretty hot
on this one, and I was reading online this morning
another four farms have gone in central Hawks Bay. You're
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no fan at all.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
No, it's not a good thing for our country and
our industry going forward, having these pine trees planted on land.
It should be crazying livestock. We've seen it just across
the fence from us at home in Tako, Fifteen hundred
hectares of a neighboring property went into pine trees trees
over the last two years and it's a real shame
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to see good productive land going into it. We need
to These rules are not going far enough, I don't think,
and we really need to push them, push them harder
to make sure that we're as young farmers are not
faced with really adverse, adverse consequences going forward. And how
the government thinks they're going to double exports whilst at
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the same time planting thousands of hick years into farms
of farmand and to pine trees for carbon farming is
beyond me. So it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Hugh Jackson out of TRCW surrounded or certainly some carbon
farming happening in your neck of the woods it's not
only the loss of productive land, it's also the effect
on pastoral farming neighbors such as yourself. And I'm thinking
of the feral pests.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, one hundred percent pigs and the air huge issue
in the areas of the community already, and the pine
trees are going to make them even worse. Also the
community toll it has as well, less people around, less jobs.
I was talking to a young girl this week and
she said she's finding it really hard to find a
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job full stuff, and the change of land use and
less livestock around is definitely not helping that. In addition
to that, you know the neighboring property they're went in
beside us, that's for jobs and families that have left
the district. So really needs to needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
George Dodson, you're farming on the Canterbury planes. There are
much carbon farming happening around you. Doctor Mike Joy would
be a proponent of carbon farming, anything to get rid
of the nitrates and the waterways that you dirty dairy
farmers are putting in there.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yeah, well, weren't those comments pretty disappointing, But I don't
think we really need to give him much more air time, Jimmy,
And no, there doesn't seem to be a heap of
a lot of carbon planting going on in my area. Obviously,
the planes are irrigated really high quality, and what we
are seeing down sort of require ways as some apple
orchard's going in, which is interesting. Land news changed there,
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but it's just a lot of dairy conversions. I suppose
it's probably cropping arms going into the area as opposed
to trees or anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Just to finish on you both, young farmers, what do
you say about the Paris agreement? Do we stay or
do we go? I'll start with you, Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's an interesting one, Jamie, and I'm probably not fully
qualified to comment on it properly, having not a huge
experience in the trade, you know, in the trade space.
But yeah, obviously we want to don't want to shut
too many doors, but at the same time we don't
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want to have to reduce emissions at the peril of
our industry and put undue stress and pressure on everyone.
I think the crazy thing about us reducing our emissions
and an agriculture being really efficient producers already means that
other people and if we have to reduce or produce
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less because of it means that other people around the
world will produce more in national or global emissions has
an increased. So it doesn't seem seem to make sense
or any does it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Now that's called carbon leakage. George, what do you say?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, I'd probably say just about quite similar to what
Hughes said. Really, I'm not super qualified to speak on it,
but I will say it's slightly concerning to see that,
you know, the likes of the coal and power generation,
that we will import products from Indonesia rather than using
our own better quality coal for the sake of so,
you know, exporting our footprint, which is quite concerning. And
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like Hugh says, if we're stopping production here and as
one of the cleanest, greenest food producers in the world,
and it's just going to go to another country that's
going to do it at the lowest cost possible with
no regard to the environment. So that would be my
take on that, And I think there's a place for
the agreement, but we probably just said find out how
we can make it work better for us.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
George Dodson twenty twenty four Young Farmer of the Year
Hugh Jackson twenty twenty five Young Farmer of the Year,
Thanks for your time. Go the stags, absolutely, lads, go
the stags. Farming is in good heart with young people
like that leading the charge. Shares a text and Hi, Jamie,
I wrote to our farming leaders three years ago asking
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them to look into the four per one thousand initiative
which forms part of the Paris Agreement. Never heard of it,
but will carry on with this one, it seems to me,
says the text of that. New Zealand pastoral and perhaps
even New Zealand cropping farmers are already meeting this initiative
and storing carbon and the soil. Please are squay MPI
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a bit late now, but I'll throw it back to them.
Please are squ MPI don't have a mechanism for New
Zealand pastoral farmers to put themselves into the initiative. Yeah,
it's always been a bit of a beef for mine
Texter as well. I'm not so sure on the science
of carbon sequestration and the soil, but certainly grass as
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you would think, would take in a bit saving the planet.
So to say, Farmers, especially sheep and beef farmers. The
carbon positive. What's the issue up next to kaw Koki
and the Taranaki working flat out on his farm because
tomorrow he's heading up to Auckland to watch his three
boys battle the box for.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Azali on mom.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
This had to be one of the quirkiest songs of
nineteen ninety four. The last time the All Blacks lost
at Eden Park the crash test dummies. And I think
I got that right, Michelle. What were you doing in
nineteen ninety four?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
I think I told you earlier. The song just reminds
you of writing in the primary school bus. You know,
worry Car primary school.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You were lucky. We didn't even have a radio in
our school bus.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Oh here comes the Yorkshire thing and then they made
us walk to the snow with no shoes on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I need you tell the young people of today that,
and they won't believe yet. Right what, let's have a
look at what's a rural news. We were actually going
to be going to Smiley Barrett. If you're wondering what's
happened to Smiley? We phoned him up in the ad break.
He said, Oh, I'm just debutting Calves. I've got five
to go. I said, Rightio, Smiley will give you five,
so we'll come to him shortly. But here's the latest
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and rural news, the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
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Speaker 7 (20:42):
I'm sure we'll catch up with Chris Brandolino. More about
the weather later in the show, but just heads up
out there. Some severe weather warnings are in place for
much of New Zealand for today and Saturday. High winds
of forecasts are part of the lower North Island, and
heavy rain, thunderstorms and snow are expected across the South Island.
Some some really nasty on the way. Typical spring, isn't it.
You start lamming down the south and you get a
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dumping a snot.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, well that's September and the south. Actually, I hope
we have a northwest and the stags have it at
their back. And then, as often happened in South and
back in the day, still happens today. You get the
southwesterly change and you get to play with the wind
both halves.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That could work, That could absolutely work. Thank you, Michelle.
Let's have a look at sport.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
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dot nz.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Kiwis Dobas, Michael Venus and his Indian partner Yuki Bambri
have been knocked out of the US Tennis Open and
the semifinals. The hometown fans are hoping for more of
the same from the current women's single semifinal on Center
Court after Jessica Pegoula took the first set of Arena Sablenka,
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but the Belarusian is upper break early in the second set.
We actually tried to get the US Tennis Open on
on our SkyTV here and studio, but SkyTV doesn't have
the US Tennis Open Disney Plus has it. So you
paid this money a fortune to Sky They should have
major sporting events on there and one more. The Mainland
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Tactics roster for their an Z Netball Premiership title defense
is complete with the signing of defender ash Barnett from Queensland.
She's filled the second import position alongside the goal shoot
Charlie Bell, who has returned after a season with the Stars.
So gon I might have a full roster after all,
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We're going to take a break. On the other side,
of it, hopefully, Smiley Barrett's finished debudding the calves. That
sounds like it hurts.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Barons made.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Songs from ninety ninety four when we last lost the
All Blacks. I'm talking about add Eden Park nineteen ninety four.
Our next guest was probably playing for the Taranaki rugby team.
How did I go with that one, Smiley? That's your generation?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yeah, sure it was, Jamie. Yeah, did you say nineteen
eighty five?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
No, no, nineteen ninety four, because I know that you
were in the Taranaki team that won the Ranfhilly Shield
off Auckland and ninety six. Wreon't you correct? Yes, what
a great what a great day that was, even though
it cost me the South in times picking competition Smiley,
But that was my problem and not yours back then. Okay,
you couldn't take a call earlier you were debudding calves.
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That sounds painful.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
No, it's not because we use a low plane there
local I said on them, yea, So give that administer
that first, Jamie and just love it. It's such a
teen minutes, twenty minutes, and then then you're into it. Yeah,
yet with pain and it's very specsfree for the calves.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that we've come a lot
like I remember as a kid my father lopping off
horns off cattle with pincers basically. I mean, it was
pretty brutal back in the day. So the animal health
standards have certainly gone a lot better. How's the how's
the carving going? Are you getting near the end? Can you?
It allows you a day off the farm at this
time of the year to go to Auckland.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Yes, certainly that's Jamie's probably twenty six hours actually off
the farm, Yeah, exactly, but no, yeah, that's good. We're
winding down now. That is forty fifty to go. And
the weather has been pretty good actually, but what it's
been cold and dry. You know, I was talking to
there was it three weeks ago. We've had a lot
of a lot of frost and taranaki and you know,
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growth was I think in August sudden about twelve you
know where it's it's up sort of forty is now,
which is which is good. We've had warm rain, so yeah,
a lot of farmers are short, but it's dry. Utilization
has been good, but yep, it'll come.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Jamie just looking for a bit of big yellow on
a bit of warms.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yep, yep, certainly.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Absolutely, Taranaki did the decent thing and lost the shield
to Witkado, who then lost it to us. When I
say us, i'm claiming vicariously the stags there. Good to
see it go to the small places, though, Smiley, I
know it was. I know it was valued in a
New Plymouth. I'm not so sure about the five main
rugby centers. I like to see it in the little places.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
I'm a pretty kind hearted that be jomy. We like
to share it around, you know, so it's made to
go around. But yeah, who knows, we may get a
crack at it as long as. Yeah, you've got to
do the The boys are pretty pasionate down there, so
you've got a big job this weekend of getting getting
out of Kennery. But yeah, it'd be it'd be great
for the locals down there. And I'm sure they've been
getting around the province down there, so I think it
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was there. I was fortunate enough to be at that
game down there when Turnick you took it off your
back and what was that twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
When was that twenty eleven? I think it was eleven.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, that was a great game.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But anyway, not really not if you're a Stags fan.
It wasn't a great game.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Smiling it was great, No, I mean we tear We
hired a chart of the plane next to fly down.
It was great. We flew right down the west coast
and into and for carg where he was a great day.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Bowden just about what had been playing as a youngster then.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Was he he was? Yeah, yes he was yet.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, Because I always remember what sticks in my mind
about Bowden. Barrett. I said to Sir Brian Lahore in
twenty ten, the year before the Rugby World Cup in
New Zealand, I said, throw me an absolute bolter for
the Rugby World Cup squad next year. And do you
know what he said? There's a young kid in Taranaki.
He must have only been about eighteen at the time.
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Bowden Barrett mark my words, he'll be a good one.
And Sir Brian got that right, he did, didn't he?
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Here?
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Now he were fed, Yeah, a lot of pleasure watching boat.
He had some time flies exactly, you know, two thirteen
so he first played. So yeah, that thirteen years there, all.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right, just to finish on because I know you've got
a heap on the farm and you're taking time out
the chat to me the you know, like in some
way the spring Box almost start as favorites for this game,
but the All Blacks have a wonderful history of coming
off losses, especially bad losses like the like it wasn't
bon azeris bon AZERI isn't going well is this is
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this a flipper coin game?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
It's yeah, it's going to be very tight. There's small margins,
as you know, Jamie, and test matches and yeah, we
we just we've just got to take it to them.
We just can't sit back. We just can't give them
an inch, you know. And that's you know, we found
out last week against two weeks ago against the Argentine Argentines,
and sat found out excuse me, against Bozzie, you know.
(27:40):
So you've just got to take your chances and you
just can't give the opposition a chance. That's simple as that,
because you only get you get a few chances in
the game. If you don't nail them, you know, you're gone.
You come come second. So yeah, it's it's going to
be a great game, great contest. And like you said, Jamie,
yeah we the boys are definitely hurting coming off that loss.
And it's hundredth game, you know, and it was Cody's
(28:06):
hundredth last week, you know. But there's a point for
the boys they couldn't get up from. But yeah, it's
going to be it's going to be a cracker for real.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, I've got I've got one more for you. You've just
finished in carving. Next job on the on the calendar
for the dairy farmers has a bit of silence to
be made and then it's mating. Now. I'm sure that
you use AI artificial insemination.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Right, we do, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yet, now have you ever thought of volunteering yourself? Because
I've done the maths on the Smiley you have signed
twenty percent of the starting fifteen. Do you think you
should sacrifice yourself for your country and maybe you know,
I don't know, volunteer to a sperm bank? Serious for
the good of the country. Smiley?
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Are you're not the fish on let's see that, I'm
the ab tickets on the farming too, so you'll get
to go the girls in calf you So.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, okay, I'll leave it at that. I could make
an awkward comment, but I won't listen, and you and
Robin enjoy your trip up to Auckland. I know it's
a bit of a whistle stop tour when you're flat
out farming. Appreciate your time, and we are so looking
forward to the All Blacks keeping that winning streak alive
at Eden Park. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
The princes always saying you have a good day.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, there we go. What a great man he is,
Smiley Barrett, I just want Michelle. I mean, I don't know,
do you think we should do that? You know, like
the sperm banks are always looking for donors. We Smiley's
got a proven record. I mean, let's be honest about it.
He's got the best record of anyone in New Zealand
rugby when it comes to siring All Blacks. And I'm
thinking Richie and Dan we could get them as well
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to volunteer.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Well, it's interesting. I want to ruin your little bubble
for you there. But most athletic ability comes from the
female side of the gene.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well it does with the Barretts as well.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Apparently here.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, yeah, Robin's got all the speed.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Yeah yeah, although they've got three there.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
All right, we're joking. We're getting way off track. Up next,
Chris Brandolino, Earth Sciences, New Zealand your spring outlook, and
just to keep the ledger even today because I've been
banging on about the stags the most annoying Cantabrian. I know,
(30:27):
my god, there were some terrible songs in nineteen ninety four,
the song no No, you haven't introduced you yet.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
You can't say you did introduce me.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
No I didn't. I said there were some terrible songs
in ninety ninety four, and this is right up there.
I swear who sang this one, by the way, I
swear by all for one one of those dunk dull
boy bands nineteen ninety four. I know that you were
at college in the States and you told us during
the ad break you and hailed. So we'll leave that conversation.
(30:59):
You did, didn't you.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Listen? Man?
Speaker 10 (31:03):
What's fuck weather?
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Baby?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Okay? Chris Brendolino from Earth Science is New zell And
to the wet blanket who texted and thought I'd tune
into a farming channel, I'm not a rugby channel. Look,
let me indulge myself for once. I mean some occasionally text.
You've got to put together a show that you enjoy.
I know that I make a living out of hopefully
the listeners enjoying it. But occasionally you do one for yourself,
(31:26):
and that's today. I'm sorry, I'm just indulging myself. Chris.
Are you going to do a weather forecast just to
please yourself?
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Well, no, I do weather forecast to please the people.
And by pleasing the people, I do that so they
are prepared and aware. Look, if I get people a forecast,
they want it all the time. It'd be sunny in
twenty four degrees and you know we can't have that
every day. That's not a good thing. You know we
need some rain every now and again.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Give us your spring forecast, because I know it. Earth
science is New Zealand to take a more serious approach
to this. You haven't done a spring outlook.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
We have.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
Look, we'll do the spring outlook. Then I think you're
keen on hearing for some site specific forecast this weekend,
so the spring outlook.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Look.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Let's remind people, and no farmers know this, but for
people who maybe need a gentle reminder, spring is one
of more the most changeable seasons. We're pivoting from winter
to summer and in that process. It's the Teenager of seasons,
I'd like to say, Jamie. Lots of highs and lows,
a lot of Mother Nature's mood swings, and we're gonna
see it at this next couple weeks. Look, we're gonna
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see more westerlies to start spring, so September will feature
more westerlies than we have seen during the winter season. However,
that's not going to last. As we go through the
spring season October November, we'll see less westerly So they're
not going to be a theme for all of spring,
just say the first three weeks month thereabouts. But when
those west winds come rain west of the South Oud
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is going to be quite wet over the next few weeks,
and we will see some active weather across the country
over the next couple weeks, a lot of roller coaster
days where it feels quite mild today ore twenties in
christ Church in Kaikota. We're gonna see cooler temperatures the
next couple of days, then will warm up again. So
this roller coaster active weather pattern for the next few weeks.
I think overall, for the next three months, if there's
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going to be dry conditions, it's likely to be over
the South Island apart from the top of the South Island.
I know that sounds kind of weird because we're getting
a bunch of rain over the next few weeks, but
I think that fawcet slowly closes by the time we
emerge into October, and probably a warm lean so average
to above average temperatures. Look, I think as we get
toward late September into October, we're going to see high
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pressure establish itself over the South Island and near the country,
and that's gonna keep things settled and dry and warm.
Where about high sets up Jimmy putting a bowl around
the spring and outlook here? Where about high sets up
longer term as we go into November and in the summer.
That is really going to be the key. I can't
stress this enough. Is at this anti cyclone or high
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is over the South Island or just southeast, we'll have
an opening for some big events for the top of
the country in the eastern part of the country. But
I thought highs a little bit farther north and west
than that. Dryness expands farther than north and west as well,
so that's something we'll have to watch as we move through.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
To Okay, listen, I'm out of time for my site
specific weather forecast for Eden Park and Rugby Park and
and Vicrgo. I'll just get another dirty text and here's
a good text. Actually, Hi Jamie, how about breeding from
the white lock stock, Big Braiden. Yeah, that's not a
bad option. What did Braiden and Caroline have? Carolin Caroline?
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Three all blacks and an all black sevens? It's four.
They've beaten Smiley to the punch by one. We'll put
the white lock jeans in there as well. To hell
with it up next, what's the sky good for? Certainly
not for breeding all blacks? The most annoying Contebriion, I
know our hobby farmer Jeremy Rooks to wrap the show
on a lighter note, Ah, this is truly appalling boys
(35:03):
to men from nineteen ninety four? Does it get any
worse than that? Just before we go to our Cantabrian,
our token Cantabrian, Jeremy Rocks, just a wee message from
farm strong farmers tell us coping with the ups and
downs of farming is a lot easier when you share
the load. Yep, problem shared is a problem. Halved. That's
why it's great to have a natter and get things
(35:24):
off your chest. So why not make time this weekend
to catch up with a mate over a coffee or
a bear. Talking to others is a great way to
lighten the backpack. Enjoy your weekend. From farm Strong. Here's
a man who has no trouble chatting and lightning because
he doesn't actually do much work. He's just a hobby farmer.
Jeremy Rocks. Jezzer, you've got a houseful for the rugby tomorrow.
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It's a shame your party's going to be damp and
when the Stags retain the shield against your Canterbury side.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Well, unfortunately, I don't think anyone can see any result
coming out of Inbercarda with a Canary victory. Unfortunately. I
mean I personally, i'd like to see south of one
because I'm kind of with you as a rugby romantic.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
I'd like to see the smaller provinces have it.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
But we haven't had a dead for five years, so
we'll probably go down and won't.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And just totally ignore it thereafter, what do you make
a doctor, Mike Joy.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
We's midiot and that's a polite way of saying. I mean,
I just I always struggle with him because as a
freshwater ecologist, you'd think that he'd want to work with agriculture,
but he has no interest. He's just a fanatic who
dislikes to disrupt from the sideline. So that's all you
can say. I just think it's a waste. He's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I'm not allowed to ask you about Paris or carbon farming.
You're over those, both of them.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
Yeah, well, you know you've got armositted out of the
game now. I mean, I'm you know, I mean, we
can stay in Paris, but just ignore it and the
carbon the carbon things just just charging on, you know, unabated. Really.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, four farms in central Hawks Bay I read this morning, Jeremy,
you're old patch.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
Well, I told you that a wee while ago. Actually, Jamie,
there's there's a road Tiawa Road, and I said Hawk's
Bay and there were sixteen farms on there. There's only
two or three going in there, and that was only
five ks from we were were.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Hey, how do you see the test playing out at
Eden Park? Final question for you, because is it a
flipper corin game?
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Well, I'm all worried about their backs and their forwards.
I mean, we've got an awesome we've got an awesome
forward pack.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But I just we've got our own bomb squad, Yeah
we have.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
And I mean I just think that you know, when
when when Smiley goes up tonight and sees the boys
at the hotel and reads them the Little Yellow Digger
before bedtime, I want him to tell tell Scott reasserted
himself as the Narwi Nidgley hard ass lock that he is.
I want him to tell body to get his line
kicking right. And I want Jordi there to calm down
(37:46):
and just have a decent game because by got our
backs need it, because man, it's it's just going to
be one of the great games. I'm sorry, excited, I can't.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Tell you his second best game of the day. There
we go. Jeremy Rook's wrapping the Country for today. Yes,
go the a P, but go to the south on Stags.
Please let us keep the shield. We'll talk about it Monday.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
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Speaker 1 (38:07):
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Thirty one years ago? Nineteen ninety four? This is what
we were listening to top song on New Zealand Radio,
(00:48):
Wet Wet, Wet Lovers all Around from the movie Four
Weddings and a Funeral by memory and nineteen ninety four
was the last time the All Blacks lost at Eden Park.
We are going to chat to a man who has
sired twenty percent of the starting All Black fifteen. See
how Carving's going on his Taranaki farm. I think he's
heading up the road tomorrow to watch the test Smiley Barrett.
(01:10):
But we're going to kick it off with Raysmith, Director
General of MPI, doubling Dairy Paris. Should we stay or
should we go? And have we beaten Ovius. Today's Farmer Panel,
the Young Farmer Panel. One's the incumbent Young Farmer of
the Year Hugh Jackson. The other bloke, George Dodson, won
the title last year twenty twenty four. Chris Brandolino Friday
(01:34):
weather guy from Earth Sciences, New Zealand. They have come
out with their spring out look. We'll see Watson Store
for you. And of course the big game for me,
believe it or not, this weekend is not actually the
test or I have been waiting two years for this test.
The biggest game for me is the Stags defending the
Ranfilly Shield against Canterbury. So I thought just to even
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things up a bit, so I don't go on too
much about the Stags. I'd get the most annoying Cantabria.
And I know on the show he'll wrap the show
later and maybe Barry Sober if I can track him
down as well. But Ray Smith, director General of MPI,
to kick off the show as we play songs from
nineteen ninety four miss.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
In Everything.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
He is the Director General of MPI. His name is
Ray Smith. Ray lots to talk about today. Now, you
guys at MPI, I'm going to give you a pat
on the back here because earlier in the week I
had a guy by the name of Mark Townsend who
was a founding director of Fonterra large scale dairy farmer
on the show. Do you know the bloke?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
No, I didn't know much.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And you know what he said to me. He's leading
a ginger group mentoring younger farmers to try and do
the heavy lifting around and increasing production for the dairy sector.
And he spoke to several bureaucrats, including from Fonterra, Dairy
and z the government and MPI, and he's told me,
I don't know if I should say this, that the
(03:09):
best response he got was from MPI. That's promising.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
We shouldn't be so surprised, Jamie. That's a great well,
that's a great accommendation for my boats. Look, I mean,
look the dairy sector, if you think about it, it's
what we do. We do lots of things in New
Zealand that were great it but the thing we're best
in the world at is dairy production. As we most
of our capability is our experience a big manufacturing plants
(03:35):
and our farming practices are world leading and a great climate.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well hang on, not not if I'm to believe doctor
Mike Joy.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Oh well yeah, well Look, you know, there's always going
to be those folks that have got an alternative view
to what we do in the primary sector. But look,
you and I know and probably everyone listening here that
you know what we're best at as pastoral based farming,
and we should do more of what we best in
the world at. That's how we generate wealth for our
communities and our economy. And you know New Zealand neads
(04:05):
that right now.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now the government wants to double export earnings in the
next decade. It's a very lofty goal, but Mark Townsends
group they're saying we can lift it by fifty percent
within the next decade, which would when itself, would be
a wonderful achievement if they can do that, a Raysmith
from MPI, can you do that and still keep or
look after the environment.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Look, we know a whole lot more than we did,
say twenty years ago, Jamie, when you know, environmental concerns
really started to come to the fore. And look since then,
you know the changes in farming practices, how we look
after waterways, what we know about nitrates, leaching and how
to control for that. We're in a whole different place
than we were twenty years ago. And look, you've got
to earn your right to grow when you're using natural resources,
(04:51):
and I think our pastoral farming sector has that right.
We are much more careful about what we do. Everyone's
very conscious about environmental matters. All New Zealanders and all
farmers I meet care about the environment. So I think
we've got plenty of rooms for both. We can grow
and we can look after the environment. In fact, we
can make good returns for the environment.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Am I allowed to ask you about Paris? Are you
going to duck for cover?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Sure, you can ask me anything.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Jane right, and are out? Should we stay or should
we go?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, look, I mean politicians will make those choices ultimately.
But what we're very focused on here, and it's a
core goal here at MPI, is to make sure that
we've got in the hands of farmers' solutions to reducing
methane on their farms by twenty three. And look, I
visited a company yesterday in Auckland that's developing a bowler
(05:38):
says that it will be one of the early technologies
that will either get released into the market towards the
end of this year or early next year. It's going
through its registration process, so we'll make sure it's safe
to use. There are vaccines, vaccine companies I'm meeting with.
They are well developed now and what they're producing. We're
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going to solve this methane issue for farming without kind
of well, in fact, it's going to allow us to
produce more, will reduce methane from cars, that will allow
us to increase production further and reduce our overall climate emissions.
And we'll do this in a way that means that
farmers have lots of options and choices.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay, methane's one part of the puzzle. Mike Joways banging
on about nitrates and our waterways.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, but I think that's the point I was making
is twenty years ago we knew a lot less about
nitreats and waterways. We know a whole lot more about
now how to protect and stop that from happening or
reduce the impacts, and whether that's kind of the way
in which fertilizer companies and the representatives work with farmers
to reduce the impact or fertilizer application, whether it's the
riperian planting, or just the way that we that we
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graze our stock and our animals. We look, we know
a whole lot more and there are more technologies that
are being developed. We're not standing still in the primary sector.
We're growing and changing all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
When it comes to biosecurity. MPI is the Ethander group,
the Cody Taylor, the Fletcher Nule. You are the front
row of the defense of pattern. Here's a question for you.
Can we declare mbovius beaten?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, if we get to November, Jamie with no cases
through the spring on farms, we will declare provisional excellence
of Mbovus in New Zealand, and then we will have
another two year period will we will be assuming there's
no cases, we will be able to say that we
are free of it. So it's quite a long process
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you've got to get through with the Animal Health Organization
to be able to do this. But hey, November is
a really big market for some mere going well so far,
you know, we're about halfway there through this period of
spring and assuming we get nearby November, that'll be a
massive market. And we've done an amazing thing to keep
that out of the country.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, no other country has done it, so well done, MPI.
If you can call that one that rabit out of
the hat. Just to finish on, you've been on the
road for the past couple of weeks. You've been in
your home province of Taranaki also in the Waikara region.
Those two places used to have a thing called the
logger Wood. We've got it in Southland now. Ray.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, well the workout a was they took it off
Pardanaka o the week but it ended up in self.
But you've got a tough challenge this weekend. So there'll
be a great one Tadanaki and Kennerbury. There'd be a
great one to get along to. Look plenty happening around
the country. You know, I've been out and about. I
went through the Capuni urea plant that balance runs the air,
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which was when I was a cheat growing up in Padanaki.
It was just being built as part of the Think
Big projects and so I spent a few hours out
there with the team there. You know, challenges there is.
Energy supply issue has become a real feature in the
guess industry. But they do an amazing jobs. It's incredible
people working in these places. And I was at a
camera farm with a young couple up in Dargable just
(08:57):
last week and sitting around the kitchen, we're just talking
about how they'd recovered from the severe floods in twenty
twenty three and how they're making you go. But that's
quite a tough gig Kuma growing actually. So I look
across the country, whether it's our big players or are
small ones. You know, it's not a straight line. But
the primary seat is doing well and you've got to
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hand it to the people on farms and the people
in the factories and the people in markets. I feel
really proud about the primary sect that we're doing a
good job.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Hey, Ray Smith, thanks for your time today on the country.
You always enjoy catching up. You keep up the good
work keeping our borders safe.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Thanks amen, and enjoy the game on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'll enjoy both games, thank you, Ray. A bit of
a Foddy theme on the show today. Why not up
next our farmer panel, the young farmers George Dodson and
Hugh Jackson. One of them is in Canterbury, Enemy territory.
If you're a Stags fan, are the other ones in
the Wyehado? Interestingly, I think they're both Stags fans. Let's
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ask them next. George Dodson and Hugh Jackson before the
end of the hour, Smiley Barrett, Chris Brendolino in the
most Annoying contebriaryon I know.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well the farmer panel with the Isuzu Dmax, the Kiwi
ute built tough with truck DNA.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Today's farmer panel is the Young Farmer panel, and we've
gone straight to the top drawer. Yes, the twenty twenty
four Young Farmer of the Year FMG Young Farmer of
the Year George Dodson twenty twenty five. This year's Young
Farmer of the Year, Hugh Jackson. You I want to
start with you and tr Cow congratulations for wearing your
Southland Stags jersey along to a why Kaddow Shield challenge.
(11:02):
Even though you're living in that province. You're a true Southlander,
even if only by adoption.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Thanggy Jamie. Yeah, it was a cool game on Sunday.
That's asure I headed along with a lot of the
tiak Our locals and we went in supported the Stags.
Even though I'm definitely a wakeout a man my time
in south and I really enjoyed supporting the Stags when
I was down there and was fortunate enough to get
a South And shirt given to me when I left.
(11:30):
So great thrill to see the Stags get up and
get the shield, even though it's against my home team.
And also we were really cool to see a good
family friend in local George Reeves get on for the
Stags in the last twenty minutes of the game, so
hopefully they can do it again this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
George Dodson, you're in Canterbury. That's enemy territory for us
Stags fan but to your credit you were born and
bred in Southland, and like you too because you two
were mates at the Thorn very Young Farmers Club down
on Southland just outside of him for Cargo, you're a
Stags fan as well.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah, Jamie, Yeah, that's absolutely right, one hundred percent supporting
the Stags. I suppose Southend and Canterbury will both fancy
their chances of Stags at the homeground of Rugby Park
and then Canterbury top of the off the top of
the table. Sorry, and you know it'll be certainly interesting
clash tribalism.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It brings out the best NPC rugby. Let's talk about farming.
I'll stick with you, George, you're dairy farming. And I
was going to say dun Sandal, but you're in Darfield
aren't you.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah, sort about Dartfield waye okay out Darfield Way.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
How's the carving going? Are you getting near the end,
getting near the finish line?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, we'll we'll be about three quarters done now. So
we started quite late, but we're just finished up our
first three weeks and we're absolutely cranking through them there
for a while, but starting to settle down now, forming
a good routine and really starting to get some stuff done,
which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Were you a wee bit concerned about that reasonable drop
in the GDT auction midweek or is that just sort
of what happens at this time a year. Don't panic.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, I suppose it's just pretty standard, isn't it. You know,
we were just hope that it will continue to go up,
and it's still looking pretty good, So no complaints from me.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Hugh Jackson and c RW congratulations. By the way, Hugh
fronting up on behalf of New Zealand Farmers on Q
and A with Jack Tame. He did a really I thought,
a really telling interview with you, and it's about the
dangers and the perils of carbon farming. I'm pretty hot
on this one, and I was reading online this morning
another four farms have gone in central Hawks Bay. You're
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no fan at all.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
No, it's not a good thing for our country and
our industry going forward, having these pine trees planted on land.
It should be crazying livestock. We've seen it just across
the fence from us at home in Tako, Fifteen hundred
hectares of a neighboring property went into pine trees trees
over the last two years and it's a real shame
(14:02):
to see good productive land going into it. We need
to These rules are not going far enough, I don't think,
and we really need to push them, push them harder
to make sure that we're as young farmers are not
faced with really adverse, adverse consequences going forward. And how
the government thinks they're going to double exports whilst at
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the same time planting thousands of hick years into farms
of farmand and to pine trees for carbon farming is
beyond me. So it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Hugh Jackson out of TRCW surrounded or certainly some carbon
farming happening in your neck of the woods it's not
only the loss of productive land, it's also the effect
on pastoral farming neighbors such as yourself. And I'm thinking
of the feral pests.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, one hundred percent pigs and the air huge issue
in the areas of the community already, and the pine
trees are going to make them even worse. Also the
community toll it has as well, less people around, less jobs.
I was talking to a young girl this week and
she said she's finding it really hard to find a
(15:13):
job full stuff, and the change of land use and
less livestock around is definitely not helping that. In addition
to that, you know the neighboring property they're went in
beside us, that's for jobs and families that have left
the district. So really needs to needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
George Dodson, you're farming on the Canterbury planes. There are
much carbon farming happening around you. Doctor Mike Joy would
be a proponent of carbon farming, anything to get rid
of the nitrates and the waterways that you dirty dairy
farmers are putting in there.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yeah, well, weren't those comments pretty disappointing, But I don't
think we really need to give him much more air time, Jimmy,
And no, there doesn't seem to be a heap of
a lot of carbon planting going on in my area. Obviously,
the planes are irrigated really high quality, and what we
are seeing down sort of require ways as some apple
orchard's going in, which is interesting. Land news changed there,
(16:07):
but it's just a lot of dairy conversions. I suppose
it's probably cropping arms going into the area as opposed
to trees or anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Just to finish on you both, young farmers, what do
you say about the Paris agreement? Do we stay or
do we go? I'll start with you, Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's an interesting one, Jamie, and I'm probably not fully
qualified to comment on it properly, having not a huge
experience in the trade, you know, in the trade space.
But yeah, obviously we want to don't want to shut
too many doors, but at the same time we don't
(16:44):
want to have to reduce emissions at the peril of
our industry and put undue stress and pressure on everyone.
I think the crazy thing about us reducing our emissions
and an agriculture being really efficient producers already means that
other people and if we have to reduce or produce
(17:07):
less because of it means that other people around the
world will produce more in national or global emissions has
an increased. So it doesn't seem seem to make sense
or any does it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Now that's called carbon leakage. George, what do you say?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, I'd probably say just about quite similar to what
Hughes said. Really, I'm not super qualified to speak on it,
but I will say it's slightly concerning to see that,
you know, the likes of the coal and power generation,
that we will import products from Indonesia rather than using
our own better quality coal for the sake of so,
you know, exporting our footprint, which is quite concerning. And
(17:42):
like Hugh says, if we're stopping production here and as
one of the cleanest, greenest food producers in the world,
and it's just going to go to another country that's
going to do it at the lowest cost possible with
no regard to the environment. So that would be my
take on that, And I think there's a place for
the agreement, but we probably just said find out how
we can make it work better for us.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
George Dodson twenty twenty four Young Farmer of the Year
Hugh Jackson twenty twenty five Young Farmer of the Year,
Thanks for your time. Go the stags, absolutely, lads, go
the stags. Farming is in good heart with young people
like that leading the charge. Shares a text and Hi, Jamie,
I wrote to our farming leaders three years ago asking
(18:22):
them to look into the four per one thousand initiative
which forms part of the Paris Agreement. Never heard of it,
but will carry on with this one, it seems to me,
says the text of that. New Zealand pastoral and perhaps
even New Zealand cropping farmers are already meeting this initiative
and storing carbon and the soil. Please are squay MPI
(18:42):
a bit late now, but I'll throw it back to them.
Please are squ MPI don't have a mechanism for New
Zealand pastoral farmers to put themselves into the initiative. Yeah,
it's always been a bit of a beef for mine
Texter as well. I'm not so sure on the science
of carbon sequestration and the soil, but certainly grass as
(19:05):
you would think, would take in a bit saving the planet.
So to say, Farmers, especially sheep and beef farmers. The
carbon positive. What's the issue up next to kaw Koki
and the Taranaki working flat out on his farm because
tomorrow he's heading up to Auckland to watch his three
boys battle the box for.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Azali on mom.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
This had to be one of the quirkiest songs of
nineteen ninety four. The last time the All Blacks lost
at Eden Park the crash test dummies. And I think
I got that right, Michelle. What were you doing in
nineteen ninety four?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
I think I told you earlier. The song just reminds
you of writing in the primary school bus. You know,
worry Car primary school.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You were lucky. We didn't even have a radio in
our school bus.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Oh here comes the Yorkshire thing and then they made
us walk to the snow with no shoes on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I need you tell the young people of today that,
and they won't believe yet. Right what, let's have a
look at what's a rural news. We were actually going
to be going to Smiley Barrett. If you're wondering what's
happened to Smiley? We phoned him up in the ad break.
He said, Oh, I'm just debutting Calves. I've got five
to go. I said, Rightio, Smiley will give you five,
so we'll come to him shortly. But here's the latest
(20:30):
and rural news, the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Country's world news with Cob Cadet, New Zealand's leading right
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your local stockist, and.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
I'm sure we'll catch up with Chris Brandolino. More about
the weather later in the show, but just heads up
out there. Some severe weather warnings are in place for
much of New Zealand for today and Saturday. High winds
of forecasts are part of the lower North Island, and
heavy rain, thunderstorms and snow are expected across the South Island.
Some some really nasty on the way. Typical spring, isn't it.
You start lamming down the south and you get a
(21:03):
dumping a snot.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, well that's September and the south. Actually, I hope
we have a northwest and the stags have it at
their back. And then, as often happened in South and
back in the day, still happens today. You get the
southwesterly change and you get to play with the wind
both halves.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That could work, That could absolutely work. Thank you, Michelle.
Let's have a look at sport.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Sport with AFCO. Visit them online at AFCO dot Co
dot nz.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Kiwis Dobas, Michael Venus and his Indian partner Yuki Bambri
have been knocked out of the US Tennis Open and
the semifinals. The hometown fans are hoping for more of
the same from the current women's single semifinal on Center
Court after Jessica Pegoula took the first set of Arena Sablenka,
(21:51):
but the Belarusian is upper break early in the second set.
We actually tried to get the US Tennis Open on
on our SkyTV here and studio, but SkyTV doesn't have
the US Tennis Open Disney Plus has it. So you
paid this money a fortune to Sky They should have
major sporting events on there and one more. The Mainland
(22:13):
Tactics roster for their an Z Netball Premiership title defense
is complete with the signing of defender ash Barnett from Queensland.
She's filled the second import position alongside the goal shoot
Charlie Bell, who has returned after a season with the Stars.
So gon I might have a full roster after all,
(22:34):
We're going to take a break. On the other side,
of it, hopefully, Smiley Barrett's finished debudding the calves. That
sounds like it hurts.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Barons made.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Songs from ninety ninety four when we last lost the
All Blacks. I'm talking about add Eden Park nineteen ninety four.
Our next guest was probably playing for the Taranaki rugby team.
How did I go with that one, Smiley? That's your generation?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yeah, sure it was, Jamie. Yeah, did you say nineteen
eighty five?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
No, no, nineteen ninety four, because I know that you
were in the Taranaki team that won the Ranfhilly Shield
off Auckland and ninety six. Wreon't you correct? Yes, what
a great what a great day that was, even though
it cost me the South in times picking competition Smiley,
But that was my problem and not yours back then. Okay,
you couldn't take a call earlier you were debudding calves.
(23:36):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
No, it's not because we use a low plane there
local I said on them, yea, So give that administer
that first, Jamie and just love it. It's such a
teen minutes, twenty minutes, and then then you're into it. Yeah,
yet with pain and it's very specsfree for the calves.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that we've come a lot
like I remember as a kid my father lopping off
horns off cattle with pincers basically. I mean, it was
pretty brutal back in the day. So the animal health
standards have certainly gone a lot better. How's the how's
the carving going? Are you getting near the end? Can you?
It allows you a day off the farm at this
time of the year to go to Auckland.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Yes, certainly that's Jamie's probably twenty six hours actually off
the farm, Yeah, exactly, but no, yeah, that's good. We're
winding down now. That is forty fifty to go. And
the weather has been pretty good actually, but what it's
been cold and dry. You know, I was talking to
there was it three weeks ago. We've had a lot
of a lot of frost and taranaki and you know,
(24:37):
growth was I think in August sudden about twelve you
know where it's it's up sort of forty is now,
which is which is good. We've had warm rain, so yeah,
a lot of farmers are short, but it's dry. Utilization
has been good, but yep, it'll come.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Jamie just looking for a bit of big yellow on
a bit of warms.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yep, yep, certainly.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Absolutely, Taranaki did the decent thing and lost the shield
to Witkado, who then lost it to us. When I
say us, i'm claiming vicariously the stags there. Good to
see it go to the small places, though, Smiley, I
know it was. I know it was valued in a
New Plymouth. I'm not so sure about the five main
rugby centers. I like to see it in the little places.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
I'm a pretty kind hearted that be jomy. We like
to share it around, you know, so it's made to
go around. But yeah, who knows, we may get a
crack at it as long as. Yeah, you've got to
do the The boys are pretty pasionate down there, so
you've got a big job this weekend of getting getting
out of Kennery. But yeah, it'd be it'd be great
for the locals down there. And I'm sure they've been
getting around the province down there, so I think it
(25:38):
was there. I was fortunate enough to be at that
game down there when Turnick you took it off your
back and what was that twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
When was that twenty eleven? I think it was eleven.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, that was a great game.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But anyway, not really not if you're a Stags fan.
It wasn't a great game.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Smiling it was great, No, I mean we tear We
hired a chart of the plane next to fly down.
It was great. We flew right down the west coast
and into and for carg where he was a great day.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Bowden just about what had been playing as a youngster then.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Was he he was? Yeah, yes he was yet.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, Because I always remember what sticks in my mind
about Bowden. Barrett. I said to Sir Brian Lahore in
twenty ten, the year before the Rugby World Cup in
New Zealand, I said, throw me an absolute bolter for
the Rugby World Cup squad next year. And do you
know what he said? There's a young kid in Taranaki.
He must have only been about eighteen at the time.
(26:33):
Bowden Barrett mark my words, he'll be a good one.
And Sir Brian got that right, he did, didn't he?
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Here?
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Now he were fed, Yeah, a lot of pleasure watching boat.
He had some time flies exactly, you know, two thirteen
so he first played. So yeah, that thirteen years there, all.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right, just to finish on because I know you've got
a heap on the farm and you're taking time out
the chat to me the you know, like in some
way the spring Box almost start as favorites for this game,
but the All Blacks have a wonderful history of coming
off losses, especially bad losses like the like it wasn't
bon azeris bon AZERI isn't going well is this is
(27:13):
this a flipper coin game?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
It's yeah, it's going to be very tight. There's small margins,
as you know, Jamie, and test matches and yeah, we
we just we've just got to take it to them.
We just can't sit back. We just can't give them
an inch, you know. And that's you know, we found
out last week against two weeks ago against the Argentine Argentines,
and sat found out excuse me, against Bozzie, you know.
(27:40):
So you've just got to take your chances and you
just can't give the opposition a chance. That's simple as that,
because you only get you get a few chances in
the game. If you don't nail them, you know, you're gone.
You come come second. So yeah, it's it's going to
be a great game, great contest. And like you said, Jamie,
yeah we the boys are definitely hurting coming off that loss.
And it's hundredth game, you know, and it was Cody's
(28:06):
hundredth last week, you know. But there's a point for
the boys they couldn't get up from. But yeah, it's
going to be it's going to be a cracker for real.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, I've got I've got one more for you. You've just
finished in carving. Next job on the on the calendar
for the dairy farmers has a bit of silence to
be made and then it's mating. Now. I'm sure that
you use AI artificial insemination.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Right, we do, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yet, now have you ever thought of volunteering yourself? Because
I've done the maths on the Smiley you have signed
twenty percent of the starting fifteen. Do you think you
should sacrifice yourself for your country and maybe you know,
I don't know, volunteer to a sperm bank? Serious for
the good of the country. Smiley?
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Are you're not the fish on let's see that, I'm
the ab tickets on the farming too, so you'll get
to go the girls in calf you So.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, okay, I'll leave it at that. I could make
an awkward comment, but I won't listen, and you and
Robin enjoy your trip up to Auckland. I know it's
a bit of a whistle stop tour when you're flat
out farming. Appreciate your time, and we are so looking
forward to the All Blacks keeping that winning streak alive
at Eden Park. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
The princes always saying you have a good day.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, there we go. What a great man he is,
Smiley Barrett, I just want Michelle. I mean, I don't know,
do you think we should do that? You know, like
the sperm banks are always looking for donors. We Smiley's
got a proven record. I mean, let's be honest about it.
He's got the best record of anyone in New Zealand
rugby when it comes to siring All Blacks. And I'm
thinking Richie and Dan we could get them as well
(29:41):
to volunteer.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Well, it's interesting. I want to ruin your little bubble
for you there. But most athletic ability comes from the
female side of the gene.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well it does with the Barretts as well.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Apparently here.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, yeah, Robin's got all the speed.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Yeah yeah, although they've got three there.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
All right, we're joking. We're getting way off track. Up next,
Chris Brandolino, Earth Sciences, New Zealand your spring outlook, and
just to keep the ledger even today because I've been
banging on about the stags the most annoying Cantabrian. I know,
(30:27):
my god, there were some terrible songs in nineteen ninety four,
the song no No, you haven't introduced you yet.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
You can't say you did introduce me.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
No I didn't. I said there were some terrible songs
in ninety ninety four, and this is right up there.
I swear who sang this one, by the way, I
swear by all for one one of those dunk dull
boy bands nineteen ninety four. I know that you were
at college in the States and you told us during
the ad break you and hailed. So we'll leave that conversation.
(30:59):
You did, didn't you.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Listen? Man?
Speaker 10 (31:03):
What's fuck weather?
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Baby?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Okay? Chris Brendolino from Earth Science is New zell And
to the wet blanket who texted and thought I'd tune
into a farming channel, I'm not a rugby channel. Look,
let me indulge myself for once. I mean some occasionally text.
You've got to put together a show that you enjoy.
I know that I make a living out of hopefully
the listeners enjoying it. But occasionally you do one for yourself,
(31:26):
and that's today. I'm sorry, I'm just indulging myself. Chris.
Are you going to do a weather forecast just to
please yourself?
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Well, no, I do weather forecast to please the people.
And by pleasing the people, I do that so they
are prepared and aware. Look, if I get people a forecast,
they want it all the time. It'd be sunny in
twenty four degrees and you know we can't have that
every day. That's not a good thing. You know we
need some rain every now and again.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Give us your spring forecast, because I know it. Earth
science is New Zealand to take a more serious approach
to this. You haven't done a spring outlook.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
We have.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
Look, we'll do the spring outlook. Then I think you're
keen on hearing for some site specific forecast this weekend,
so the spring outlook.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Look.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Let's remind people, and no farmers know this, but for
people who maybe need a gentle reminder, spring is one
of more the most changeable seasons. We're pivoting from winter
to summer and in that process. It's the Teenager of seasons,
I'd like to say, Jamie. Lots of highs and lows,
a lot of Mother Nature's mood swings, and we're gonna
see it at this next couple weeks. Look, we're gonna
(32:28):
see more westerlies to start spring, so September will feature
more westerlies than we have seen during the winter season. However,
that's not going to last. As we go through the
spring season October November, we'll see less westerly So they're
not going to be a theme for all of spring,
just say the first three weeks month thereabouts. But when
those west winds come rain west of the South Oud
(32:50):
is going to be quite wet over the next few weeks,
and we will see some active weather across the country
over the next couple weeks, a lot of roller coaster
days where it feels quite mild today ore twenties in
christ Church in Kaikota. We're gonna see cooler temperatures the
next couple of days, then will warm up again. So
this roller coaster active weather pattern for the next few weeks.
I think overall, for the next three months, if there's
(33:12):
going to be dry conditions, it's likely to be over
the South Island apart from the top of the South Island.
I know that sounds kind of weird because we're getting
a bunch of rain over the next few weeks, but
I think that fawcet slowly closes by the time we
emerge into October, and probably a warm lean so average
to above average temperatures. Look, I think as we get
toward late September into October, we're going to see high
(33:34):
pressure establish itself over the South Island and near the country,
and that's gonna keep things settled and dry and warm.
Where about high sets up Jimmy putting a bowl around
the spring and outlook here? Where about high sets up
longer term as we go into November and in the summer.
That is really going to be the key. I can't
stress this enough. Is at this anti cyclone or high
(33:55):
is over the South Island or just southeast, we'll have
an opening for some big events for the top of
the country in the eastern part of the country. But
I thought highs a little bit farther north and west
than that. Dryness expands farther than north and west as well,
so that's something we'll have to watch as we move through.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
To Okay, listen, I'm out of time for my site
specific weather forecast for Eden Park and Rugby Park and
and Vicrgo. I'll just get another dirty text and here's
a good text. Actually, Hi Jamie, how about breeding from
the white lock stock, Big Braiden. Yeah, that's not a
bad option. What did Braiden and Caroline have? Carolin Caroline?
(34:31):
Three all blacks and an all black sevens? It's four.
They've beaten Smiley to the punch by one. We'll put
the white lock jeans in there as well. To hell
with it up next, what's the sky good for? Certainly
not for breeding all blacks? The most annoying Contebriion, I
know our hobby farmer Jeremy Rooks to wrap the show
on a lighter note, Ah, this is truly appalling boys
(35:03):
to men from nineteen ninety four? Does it get any
worse than that? Just before we go to our Cantabrian,
our token Cantabrian, Jeremy Rocks, just a wee message from
farm strong farmers tell us coping with the ups and
downs of farming is a lot easier when you share
the load. Yep, problem shared is a problem. Halved. That's
why it's great to have a natter and get things
(35:24):
off your chest. So why not make time this weekend
to catch up with a mate over a coffee or
a bear. Talking to others is a great way to
lighten the backpack. Enjoy your weekend. From farm Strong. Here's
a man who has no trouble chatting and lightning because
he doesn't actually do much work. He's just a hobby farmer.
Jeremy Rocks. Jezzer, you've got a houseful for the rugby tomorrow.
(35:45):
It's a shame your party's going to be damp and
when the Stags retain the shield against your Canterbury side.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Well, unfortunately, I don't think anyone can see any result
coming out of Inbercarda with a Canary victory. Unfortunately. I
mean I personally, i'd like to see south of one
because I'm kind of with you as a rugby romantic.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
I'd like to see the smaller provinces have it.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
But we haven't had a dead for five years, so
we'll probably go down and won't.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And just totally ignore it thereafter, what do you make
a doctor, Mike Joy.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
We's midiot and that's a polite way of saying. I mean,
I just I always struggle with him because as a
freshwater ecologist, you'd think that he'd want to work with agriculture,
but he has no interest. He's just a fanatic who
dislikes to disrupt from the sideline. So that's all you
can say. I just think it's a waste. He's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I'm not allowed to ask you about Paris or carbon farming.
You're over those, both of them.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
Yeah, well, you know you've got armositted out of the
game now. I mean, I'm you know, I mean, we
can stay in Paris, but just ignore it and the
carbon the carbon things just just charging on, you know, unabated. Really.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, four farms in central Hawks Bay I read this morning, Jeremy,
you're old patch.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
Well, I told you that a wee while ago. Actually, Jamie,
there's there's a road Tiawa Road, and I said Hawk's
Bay and there were sixteen farms on there. There's only
two or three going in there, and that was only
five ks from we were were.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Hey, how do you see the test playing out at
Eden Park? Final question for you, because is it a
flipper corin game?
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Well, I'm all worried about their backs and their forwards.
I mean, we've got an awesome we've got an awesome
forward pack.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But I just we've got our own bomb squad, Yeah
we have.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
And I mean I just think that you know, when
when when Smiley goes up tonight and sees the boys
at the hotel and reads them the Little Yellow Digger
before bedtime, I want him to tell tell Scott reasserted
himself as the Narwi Nidgley hard ass lock that he is.
I want him to tell body to get his line
kicking right. And I want Jordi there to calm down
(37:46):
and just have a decent game because by got our
backs need it, because man, it's it's just going to
be one of the great games. I'm sorry, excited, I can't.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Tell you his second best game of the day. There
we go. Jeremy Rook's wrapping the Country for today. Yes,
go the a P, but go to the south on Stags.
Please let us keep the shield. We'll talk about it Monday.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And like you.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
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