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September 25, 2025 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Brandolino, Rachel Shearer, Stu Loe, Stu Duncan, Hamish McKay, and Azaria Howell.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Prince. You're specialist in
John Deeck construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Seven generations from a dirt road, corn crop boots saying,
ever seen easy street where.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Skeeter gets slapped bout as fast as a star drops,
roots run.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Deep in this family tree.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Plust.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Your rastell won't make a killing boot. It's a liestyle.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It ain't living from.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
The raw flye high at the pond to the boom crocket.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
S nut on the wall in the barn where the
magno is boom. There's a lamb on the lawn where
your buddy and your.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Boat boat got the name John.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
And God we trust, Detroit.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
We rust.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Redneck letter testifying from the barn, tell under farmers Day
contry for trail.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the country. Yes, Blake Sheldon,
stay country or die trying as we go country on
the country on a Friday. Gee, the weather's not flash on.
We're based in Dunedin. Hair horrible at the window. Bottom
half of the South island's been kind of cold and wet.
The eastern side's been dry. North Island cold in some

(01:29):
places certainly very dry. We're starting to see the first
signs of yellow on the drought index map. Chris Brandolino
from NIWA Oops, I mean Earth Sciences, New Zealand to
kick off the show. This the really good news story
today is the Wall Market. Yesterday's South Island wallsaal christ

(01:50):
church Strong will indicate her up forty six cents shock horror.
Finally strong Crossbred wall is worth something. We'll discuss that
with Rachel Scherer out of PGG Writes and Walsh's the
GM Today's Farmer Panel, Stu Duncan and Stu Low. Stu
Duncan's in the Mantoto ste Low in North Canterbury, Hamish Mackay.

(02:14):
He's going to be filling in for me for a
couple of weeks. I'm off to Perth to see the
All Blacks next week. And Azaria Hell sitting in for
Barry Soper, who's also absent without leave. While he's actually
got leave. I think him and neither are having a
well deserved break this week. So Azaria Hell to talk
about the big political stories of the week as well.

(02:36):
Michelle will have the latest and a rural news for you,
and will update sport one Sleep to Go till the
Edon Park test. Chris Brandolino up next.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Testify from the bot.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Under the harmerstay.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Con the dart.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So he's kicking off the show today. Our man at
Earth Sciences in z the artist formerly known as Newhere
Chris Brendo Brandolino and no one enjoys a good Chris
Drought Index map more than me. I live and die
by it when I check to you in the summer months.
I don't expect to see color on it in late September.

(03:24):
It's a bit of a worry, it is.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, Look, we're seeing westerlies, and the westerlies are going
to persist a bit longer. We were thinking, you know,
a couple of weeks ago the westerlies, which we knew
would come, but the indications were a few weeks ago
they would ease, you know, as we get toward end
of September early October. That's now probably going to continue,
Jamie into the middle part of October. And now as
a consequence, western areas, particularly western South Ilon, getting you know,

(03:49):
bucket loads of rain, but eastern areas of boath Ions
are dry, and that westerly wind is likely because of
something over the South Pole at the top of the atmosphere,
sudden stratospheric warming way at the top of the atmosphere.
Basically what's happening is that the atmophere is warming rapidly
over a short period of time, roughly a week, and

(04:10):
that has flowing effects to our weather, and we don't
enough time to get into it. But basically that is
helping to keep the westerliest going. So that will be
a theme Jamie over the next probably three or four weeks.
So unfortunately, I think areas that are dry now are
probably not going to get much better. In fact, they
make it drier as we work away through the first
week or two of October, so.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
That way better. Yellow that's showing up very early in
the season is in hawks By.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
That is the driest region, that's right, Yeah, And with
that Hawks Bay. Speaking of hawks Bay, it is going
to be really warm this weekend. Saturday tomorrow, Hawk's Bay,
eastern Gisbon likely see temperatures at least in the lower twenties.
I think on Sunday parts of Hawk's Bay could nape
your Hastings and certainly areas around Hawk's Bay could see

(04:58):
temperatures twenty four, twenty five, twenty six degrees. We could
be seeing near record September warmth in that part of
the country thanks to those brisk northwest kind of fern
winds coming off the Central Plateau, and that warmth continues
into Monday and maybe not quite as warm, but certainly
lower twenties at least. Meanwhile, it cools off for the
South Island on Monday, so it will be warm in

(05:19):
the eastern South Island, Otago, your neck of the woods
on Sunday, Canterbury, just not quite as warm as Hawk's Bay,
and we do have to watch out for those gusty
spring winds continuing today. A windy day for the Lower
North Island and much of the I guess much of
the Eastern and Lower North Island that will ease but
still remain elevated this week. Another round of gusty wind Jamie.

(05:39):
It looks to come early next week, and then as
we move forward into I would say much of next week,
it's the same old thing. A lot of rain on
the western part of the South Island that's where the
most run is going to fall over the next seven
to ten days, and the western North Island. They're not
going to be excluded. They'll see some decent rain over
the next seven days.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
In summary, if you're too dry or too weight, it's
more of the sign for the next few weeks.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
It really is. Yeah, and we are expecting as we
get into the middle part of October. From about the
middle part of October onward, we are expecting. Now this
may change. We'll see how that sudden stratospheric warning kind
of you know, kind of a wild card that brings.
But as of now, we are expecting strong ridging to
move into much or that's high pressure moving in and

(06:29):
settling over much of the country middle part of October
into the end of October. As we get from roughly Halloween,
very late October into especially November, there are some very
early signs we could see some rain bands, maybe atmospheric
rivers come in from the Northwest, and those can bring
really heavy rain. They can result in really heavy rain

(06:51):
for parts of the country. So just something to kind
of keep in mind and watch. We have many, many
days and weeks to watch this, but this is the
direction of travel. Will be issuing our updated Climbate Outlook
Seasonal climate out Look next week. Oh by the way, Jamie,
for farmers who want to stay on top of rainfall
historically and rainfall move looking forward for the next week.

(07:12):
Our hotspot Report, we just started publishing that this season.
That's on our website. You can still type in Nila
or he can type in Earth Sciences this type of
hotspot report, and that should be on the website. If
it's not out now, pretty darn soon and that'll be
updated once a week and something hopefully farmers can leverage
to help them understand what's coming down the pike.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Finally, if you're hitting to Ayton Park tomorrow night, didn't
do you need to bring a rhine proof.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Jacket tomorrow night?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So Saturday, yeah, well five five, sorry Chris, five pm,
I'm putting your own five pm.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Look, I think there will be showers, probably early on.
In fact, as I'm going to my handy dandy to
give me literally three two and I'm going to our
ensemble map.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
One, the game will show oh evening.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Look it's gonna rain tomorrow in the afternoon. Those showers
should end by six seven o'clock. So yeah, Brandon jacket's
just in case. If it rains, it'll be early on
towards five or six.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Got on your Chris Brandelina, enjoy your weekend. We'll catch
you back next week.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
And my friend you too on the wall in there.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Them caught our past twelve and you're with the Country
brought to you Vi Braint. I'd never heard the song before,
I said to Michelle, we go country on the country
on Fridays. Chuck in some country music, stay country or
die trying, as I said Blake Sheldon, Okay, if you

(08:35):
want to our text lines five double o nine, tell
us how spring is treating you at your place. I
probably don't need to hear from the South and farmers.
I know they're sick of it a bit down there,
but some of you guys are getting a bit dry.
We're going to talk to a couple of farmers shortly,
Steve Duncan and Stu Lowe will see how they're getting on.
But if you've got the mind to send us a

(08:57):
text five double o nine, tell us your region and
how you're faring. Some feedback from yesterday's show. Geez, Jamie,
just listening to yesterday's show on the podcast that Finn
Ross has a problem for every solution. Love the show.
Thank you, keep up God's work mate, Dave. Dave, you're

(09:19):
a great man, a beautiful man. Here's Andrew Jamie twenty
two degrees here in the bay. He's talking about Hawk's
Bay and playing Cape Kidnappers. Springer is good, says Andrew.
It would be playing Cape Kidnappers mind you. If the
wind gets up, bring some golf balls with you. Me

(09:42):
was had Eastern North Island having above normal rainfall since
April this year, and it's been nothing but the complete opposite. Yeah,
I'm yeah, okay. So we'll get to some more of
your texts as well, but I need to go to
Rachel Sharer next. If you're a sheep farmer, Gee, the
tides turned for you in the past twelve months. Clam's

(10:04):
gone from six bucks to ten bucks and shark horror
strong wool is worth something where it was it yesterday's
christ Shirt Soul God, we trust to truly, We rust
reda matter, testify them from the body and the curve
till the dead.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Under harmstay contry her diet. That's my favorite country.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
This is an interview I've been waiting about ten years
to do. Yes, the strong Wall market had a big
bounce yesterday in fact, up forty six cents South Island
Strong Will indicated ninety eight percent clearance to tell us
about it, and I bet she's got a spring and
a step. Rachel Shaer, the GM of PGG Rights and
Wall and Rachel, I just wish your predecessor, the La

(11:00):
Grant Edwards, was here to do this report. I think
he would have loved it.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
I think we all wish that Grant was still here,
and in fact, we celebrated him yesterday thinking how much
he would have enjoyed yesterday's auction, because man, there was
intention and buzz in that auction room yesterday and we're
absolutely delighted for our growers. They certainly deserve it. But
as I always say, there's still there's still a way
to go, and we need to continue this momentum upwards.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, let me quote Dave Burrage, your South Island auction manager.
He said, significant global shortages of all wall types has
prompted levels of demand at christ Church at the christ
Church Will Exchange not seen in a generation. Bidding at
times was extreme, with buyers having to fill immediate orders

(11:46):
into China. So here's the question, the sixty four thousand
dollars question, Rachel share it is this just a one
off blip. I hope not well.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
I absolutely hope not as well, and so do our
growers that look, I say it's a sign of the momentum.
I think that there is a lot of telltale signs
that fins are shifting. You know, we've had multiple initiatives
from the Woolen government buildings. You know, the Nanjing wall
market up in China that's recently concluded. You know, many

(12:16):
believe that that was the most positive market or opportunities
for business that's been seen since twenty eighteen. We've got
the EU legislation coming through, legislating against non sustainable fibers.
We've got decreasing supply. I think I mentioned to you
last time Australia that a low not seeing of sheet

(12:37):
numbers not seen since before the First World War. So
you know, there's increasing demand from those who are seeking
sustainable options and there's lowering supply. So I think we're
in a classic supply and demand situation which can only
be good for our hard working growers.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So when you talked about the Nanjing wallmarket, is this
this new deal that Walls of New Zealand signed.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Let's say it's a market that many from the industry
from all over the world. We're in China, including our
Minister Patterson on behalf of the New Zealand wall wall industry, but.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Walls of New Zealand has signed a partnership agreement with
the leading Chinese manufacturer. That's got to be good news.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Yeah, that's good news, and there's multiple good news stories
coming through, so let's hope that continues to the buyers
putting as much pressure on each other as they were
used today to get hold of to get their hands
on the wall. It was pretty exciting to see.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I've got to be honest, well, I'm pleased to hear it.
Strong Wall's rarely been dragging the chain when it comes
to the primary sectors, so hopefully this is the beginning
of a new dawn. Rachel, I'm very excited for you
when it came to the fine wall types. I mean
they've been better than strong Wall, but a major Australian
based walk exporting company dominated the floor yesterday. Is this

(13:57):
off the back of, as you pointed out, their decline
on in sheep numbers in Australia.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
Yeah, it was really fascinating yesterday the Australian buyer who
comes across. He actually ended up buying half the value
of yesterday's action, So half of the values of yesterday's
auction went to Australia. And he was also buying crossbread wall,
so that shows the real constraint of demand over there.
There's not a lot of crossbread as many will know
in Australia. So the fact that the Australians are starting

(14:23):
to buy up the New Zealand cross bred wall just
continues to show how much value international buyers are placing
on New Zealand wall. And you know, he brings an
interesting dynamic. And you know, the open cry option is
one way that growers transact their wall, but it's a
really transparent way to observe the sentiment of the exporters
and that was heated yesterday, like at times when they

(14:46):
were outbidding each other for a lot that they thought
over some of the language under their breasth So you know,
I couldn't repeat on the radio, but Jesus was exciting.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
To see well levels of demand not seen in the generation.
We will take that Rachel Sharer chat again next month.
Hopefully the good news continues.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
I look forward to talking to you in like Quasia.
I really hope that the market continues to hold an increase.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Let's hope. So Rachel, we'll take it while it's on offer.
Your texts are coming in thick and fast. When wool
gets to ten dollars, says Si, you can say it's
worth something. That's actually a fair comment. We we got
five dollars a kilo for strong crossbred wool in the
nineteen eighties, so if your factor the inflation between now

(15:31):
and then, you'd want at least ten to be even.
I'm a big fan of thinking. If everything's ten dairy, beef,
lamb and wool, we're cooking with gas. There you go.
Regarding the weather here in the Manuwatu region, says Janet,
a stud sheep breeder, you should have got a plug

(15:51):
in for your stud sheep operation there, Janet, based it's
wrong a tea West Palmerston North. The driest winter I
ever remember. Have had lots of westerly winds, gale force,
very drying. We need rain otherwise not good heading into
summer and in singlets. Some of these need a wee

(16:16):
bit of pre reading. Michelle, you might have to go
and do some filtering for these. Here's someone in Northland
and in singlets and shorts in Northland, big blue and
a nice northwest starting to dry things out. Finally, of
course they've been a bit wet at the top of
the country. Spring properly here. Now, keep your feedback coming
in on five double O nine about the weather. We're

(16:38):
going to ask a couple of farmers at the cold
face about the weather. Up next to the farmer panel
stew Duncan and ste Low.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Flat hair dragging out twenty pounds, Dan.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Dragging the farmer panel with the Iszuzu dmax the Kiwi
built tough with truck DNA.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay, the farmer panel for today two Stew's Low and Duncan.
Now I'll start with you stew Low in North Canterbury.
You used to hold the shield up there. You're still
bitter and twisted Stewie.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Not really.

Speaker 8 (17:18):
No, it's probably gone to a better place, so go
look after it and we may get a crack next year.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, I know what want to be unkind to Canterbury.
I had Big Rob Penny on the show earlier in
the week and he didn't see the humor and me
suggesting it shouldn't stay in Canterbury. But look, you've had
it long enough, Stew.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
Yeah, well a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks
longer than what you fellows themself, I guess.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
But only one week longer.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
One week, yeah, one week. But anyway, No, they they
had the potential to the clawback, but yeah, Tago, that
shat the game, and you know they played very well
and totally deserved the win.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Got a text and from Mark Cazeno, who's been on
the show before, and he says, I know the locals
call it hardened, but it's harwarden. Is it is that
how you say it?

Speaker 8 (18:09):
It's written, but it's just even calls it hardened harden Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
He says the hardened area is drying out. Those with
irrigation are starting dryland. Guys would love to see some
rain instead of relentless northwest winds and Stew I was low.
I'm still sticking with you. That's what you're having to
put up with in Canterbury at the moment.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
Yeah, I'm up the hell. And yet we make Carasill.
He's across the valley and I see his irrigation ponds fall,
but he's got three irrigators going today, so I think
I'm not sure if it's the first day, but yeah,
so it's going to be long old go for him
if he's turned them on before October.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, okay, Stu Duncan and the Many are Toto the
unofficial mayor of where to berniere you standing in the
local body elections AGAINSTU.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I am done a bit of campaign and as we
speak so that it's all good.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well you're getting free caw. I'm going to send you
an invoice for this interview. Vote Duncan, I might, I
might need it. No, I doubt not a community store
Wak like you. I know that Southland, my home patch,
has been you know. They need to turn the tap
off down there and warm up a webit up the
country of weber and the Many are Toto. What are

(19:24):
you guys like?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, we're good for moisture. We've got a good shair
again last night. But it's been patchy, I know. Put
them into Patterra and iida ally and that down there
they are really dry. But in imacaut of the other
night they got fifty mill of rain, so it's been
really patchy where the rain's been formed. But we're cold
and just need sunshine, and we've had a cold wind

(19:46):
and north westers, but even suddenly saying we skipped the
snow last night on the high country, so we just
need heat here. But definitely a nice warmenta rain would
be much appreciated by the whole region, really.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Stu Low Well of finished lambing and tailing, that's docking
for you North Island. As Stu, you'll only be the
sort of beginning laming.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Are you. Yeah, we'll just be two days into it there,
early is really, so we're just sit stocking everything now
and we're pretty tight for a feed, so we're just starting.
That's just starting.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Stulo. You sent me a picture, yes that I couldn't
for the life of me figure out what it was,
and then you sent an explanation it was a bulls testicle.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
Well actually yeah, So it's a bit of a shout
out to all fellows who people are going to be
selling calves. Please, if you're marking your calves, just go
a bit slower and make sure you take get both
outs out of steers, because's nothing worse than buying a
mix six line of calves and then seeing it one's
a rig and at this time of year, so you

(20:47):
had to get the veting and yeah, remove that extra
bit of out of end. So you didn't term start
making your breeding property.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
You didn't remove it the old fashioned way with your teeth,
did you, stew No, No, it was sort of rugged
Canterbury prop. You'd be up for that.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
I was holding on to him. He didn't. He wasn't
too happy about that. Yeah, anyway, No, I had to
we put him in the crush and tail up and
here you know the job was done.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
So your your your your. Your addition to the show
is the testicle, Stu. Stu Duncan. I'm not sure what
you're bringing. I'm not sure whether you're going to talk
balls or bales.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, and no bars, I had a bit of wool
in that sail yesterday, so it's a bit happy about
the result of the woolsal And we haven't even shown
our hobbits yet, so I might hopef we're going to
weave more of the market stays here. But it's about love,
I can tell you too much. Really, that was a
good sale. We got over five dollars a kilo for
our half red bellies, and I'll see we've got two
dollars locks, so everything include the oddin timber is over

(21:49):
seven dollars twenty greasy so it's pretty good really.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
So bears on you in the way to burn hotel tonight.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah know what, I have to get out and sample
one in a while.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I don't believe that for a moment. Are you coming
down to support Otago tomorrow one o'clock tack off?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, I I'll think Mum and Dad Dan, we'll go
down and have a look. And it's only a couple
of games there for Sam Bilbot, so he's a good
friend of ours, so we'll watch them do that, hopefully
retain the shield and yeah, and then trickle home later on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well he's a good player. He's been a very good
player for the Highland of zan Otago. We wish him
all the best with us in his new offshore career.
Final word with you are Stu Low, of course, former
Canterbury and Crusaders prop. My take on the rugby and
I don't know as much about it as you. I
think the All Blacks will bounce back at Eden Park.
They never play two shockers in a row. It is

(22:39):
their fortress. I think they'll win that one. But my goodness,
that Ossie back line is a threaten. It's game on
and Perth.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
Yeah, I'll still have to be at their at their
best to beat them, because yere with the the you
know Joe Smith and Mike cron on the influence on
their coaching sorte of things of love you.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
I'm just.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
You've got a bit more structure and class to their game.
And yeah, they won't they won't be easy because so
obviously they've beaten the spring Boks at Pelitude and yeah,
all we have to be bringing your a game.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's going to be fantastic, looking forward to it. Hey,
Farmer Panel, Stu Duncan, ste thanks for your time. Enjoy
the footy over the weekend.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
All good, thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
There we go and if you're at anywhere there where
to burn the hotel, whip along there tonight. Stu Duncan
got to be shouting made a fortune at the wallsale yesterday.
Up next Michelle with the latest and rural news and
sports news. Before the end of the hour, Hamish Mackay,
he's going to be talking about rugby. He's going to

(23:44):
be filling in for me for a couple of weeks.
Going over to Perth. A bit of a bit of
sweet experience, to be perfectly honest, will tell you about
that in a tick and Azariah how sitting in for
as Soper.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Some many cure the crickets in the creek Bank Quark's tails, California.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe she'd far for report from South Georgia. She's got
the bar in the palm of her hands.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
She's in nies country fan back guy.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
What a great country song that is? She had me
at Heads, Carolina by Cole Swindell. Well done, Michelle. Here's
Michelle with the latest and rural news, the.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Country's world news with Cop Cadet, New Zealand's leading right
on Lawnbower Bread visit steel Ford dot cot On INSI
for your local stockist.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
Thanks Jamie. I don't get a lot of praise, but
it's a been coming from you. About music.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, I mean you've had some shockers on the music
front in the past, but you're doing well. When we
go country on the on the Country on a Friday.

Speaker 9 (24:51):
Well, I'm the place of Gallen know about country music,
don't know much, but I know about that.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, well you're picking it up off the playlist from her.
I haet country State, great station.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
You should tune into it if you like your country
music exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
They're all catchy, they've all got a good hook anyhow.
What's happening in rural news, So rural news.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
The Bay of Plenty avocado industry has banded together after
devastating winds had more than four hundred orchards, with some
losing ninety percent of their fruit, and girls are working
with New Zealand Avocado and New Zealand Food Network to
recover and distribute tons of the windfall fruit to charities
across the region, which is kind of a I guess
it's a bit of sweet sort of thing out of it,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Really.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
It's not so great for the avocado grals that that happened,
but a bit a sweet that it's going to charity.
And of course this weekend daylight saving on Sunday, don't forget.
Of course, you don't need to really turn clocks back anymore.
We're having this discussion earlier.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, a lot of them are digital. They turned themselves over.
But you know, it's still a bit of a show.
It's not a worry for us, but for like some
dairy farmers. Breakfast announcers, shift workers, anyone who has to
get up early. It's just it does knock you around
for a week or two.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
It's gonna be dark when I go to the pool
in the mornings.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Now fun, there you go. It'll be dark when I
go out to get the paper while you're training at
the pool. His sport sport with.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
An AFCO Kiwi to the bone. Since nineteen oh four.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
We had a para pool when I was a kid,
Michelle twenty four feet in diameter, that's less than eight meters.

Speaker 9 (26:19):
There would be fancy in Riversdale.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
It was quite fancy in Riversdale, and we would swim
back and forward. So when I got into a full
length paul, it was a bit of a battle because
I was you know, you'd do two or three strokes
and you'd have to turn. And then it was also
three foot sixteep, which is like not quite a meter
well about a meter deep. And Dad decided in his
wisdom to build a diving board and he put it

(26:44):
about six or seven feet above the water. You only
did it once.

Speaker 9 (26:50):
Sounds like a natural selection.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, the only way you could dive into the para
pool and not break your neck was to dive out
and then you would hit your hands on the other
side of the par of pool. But that's the first
world problem. Have I played the sports liner, I have right?
All Blacks coach Scott Robertson analyzed the Rugby Championship deadlock
ahead of this weekend's penultimate round. New Zealand player Australia

(27:14):
and Auckland obviously South Africa meet Argentina and Durban. The
Wallabies lead the competition on eleven points the spring box
and All Blacks have ten, the Pumas nine. Robertson says,
little separates the team has no one's got it right
yet because no team have won back to back games.
Very interesting and former Black Caps coach Gary Stead is

(27:35):
back on the books at New Zealand Cricket. Stead's accepted
a part time high performance role to support player and
coach development. There's your sport up next. Hamish Mackay on sport.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Worm car Week, Clean the clean curtain, clean sheet.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I've got to cover up to sixty e.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Of a Lidnham horse saying welcome back to the country.
It has caught it away from one well, from one
Mackay to another. Hamish Mackay and MacKaye on Sport and Hamish.
You're filling in for me from next Tuesday for a
couple of weeks. I'm off to Perth and then Adelaide
and I just want to say it's a bit of
a bittersweet experience for me going to see the All

(28:20):
Blacks and Perth because my old mate Rowan Horror, my
oldest friend we've known other since we were four or
five years of age, passed away earlier this year with
melanoma and a few of us Riversdale or former Riversdale
farmers got together and we thought we would take Rowan
over to Perth for his final fling because he had
a terminal diagnosis. He didn't make it, so we're going

(28:43):
to try and celebrate his life while we're over there.
And thank you for filling in next week and letting
me do it. I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (28:51):
Yeah, absolutely, please, Jamie, you'll uphold it. I'm sure that
the memory of Ryan you'll do it well. I'm pretty
confident of that.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
We're going over to stay with another of our old
primary school mates and I've known him since I was
five as well, and his name is Hideous Ross, So
you can imagine what sort of bloke he is. I
went to Lincoln with him and he's a bit rough
around the edges, but a good.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Block, hideous ross that went to Lincoln is just full
of all sorts of stories.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Right, Yeah, I could tell you some, but.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
No they wouldn't pass the PC test anyhow. Okay, so
you're filling in. Are you going to be filling in
from Auckland or from Parmi North where you're based now?

Speaker 10 (29:33):
A mix of Auckland and Parmi North, but you know,
starting to rock and roll with the old Remains team
down here at the Manor with two so a bit
more from Parmi but the odd day out of Auckland
sort of around rugby commentary weekends and things as well.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
So you know, I had this beautiful.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
Best of both worlds life, you know, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
You're in real estate now, or you've been in real
estate for a while, are you starting to see some
I hate the word green shoots, but a bit of
a bit of a lift in the market because we're
going to get probably three more drops in the ocr
and you know, I think the housing and property markets
it has to have a positive effect.

Speaker 10 (30:10):
It does, it has to have an effect, and I
hope it has an effect, and I think it'll have
effect in terms of numbers in turnover. I think people
are too wise to get drawn into the COVID low
interest rates, pay stupid prices, end up with negative equity
kind of scenario. Because my gut feeling is another boom
now would see the biggest fall we've ever seen. So

(30:30):
we've had a bit of a crunch back and we're
thirty odd percent probably in a lot of places. So yeah,
I just think we'll see momentum coming back to which
is we buy and sell houses to live and not
to make a hell of on them. You know, we
people will still do Okay, i'd imagine, but yeah, that's
what I think will happen with the drop in the
ocr Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You've thrown us a couple of topics from Mackay on sport.
Obviously we're going to talk about a footy but I
only know the headline here Hamish, But I reckon, I
know where you're going to go with this track and
field coverage going forward, like you, I'm assuming like you.
I was so disappointed that we didn't have coverage on
SkyTV of the world track and Field Championships. You know

(31:10):
hamous kerr, Geordy b missh what a great meat. It's
just so good to watch.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
Yeah, so good to watch.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
And we have had it previous. I think Eugene Oregon
a few years ago was just incredible and wall to
wall to war coverage sort of twenty four to seven.
So why it dropped off the radar because we must
have known that the especially the.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Curves of this world.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
And to watch Zoey Hobbs run in the Blue ribbon
one hundred meters against the very best, we knew.

Speaker 8 (31:37):
It was coming.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
People loved track and field, and then I had these
track and field diers. Oh you can watch it online.
Nobody wants to go looking online like that. I mean,
look at the outcome we had with the US Open
tennis on Disney. Nobody knows who won that. Most people
wouldn't know that the Spaniard got up and beat Center
in the finals because we just weren't covering it.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, we pay a fortune to Sky, they should be
paying a fortune getting the rights. That's what I reckon.
What do you reckon about? What do you reckon about?
Eden Park? You're not on commentary duty, are you?

Speaker 7 (32:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, no, what is that five early kickoff?

Speaker 10 (32:10):
You know, geez the ground looking magnificent or up against
that Joe Smith. I've got a captain thoughts here. I
really want to see Satisi be going back to being
all carry, don't get too you know, too pretty with it,
you know, and midfield needs to click. I don't know.
It could be you know, it could be a turning

(32:30):
point in the right direction. I just hope it's not
another hammer blow after what we saw last time.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
The All Blacks never played two Shockers in a row.
They'll bounce back. Well that's just my take on it.
But I'm with you. I'm not totally convinced of the
selection of the team. Good to see Roy Garden and
obviously Cody Taylor back, and I think cayleb Clark's long
over due for a run. We'll just see what happens.

(32:55):
I would have made one or two more changes, but
I am not raisor okay, just a couple of quickly
to shown six weeks to the Melbourne Cup.

Speaker 10 (33:02):
The Melbourne Cup and you know, remember when we just
used to have a heap of Kiwi horses and there
at the moment we've got three or four that could
be running in the first Tuesday in November trapped the
Auckland Cup winner from trained by the Connors at Bulls
Mark Twain with Rodger James Mchai has got Wolfgang and
lack Creek has already qualified. So three of those have
still got to qualify. But how that'd be good to

(33:23):
go back to the days of Vander Humman, you know
when we had Kiwi's all over the place running of
the Melbourne Cup. So let's see what pans out and
that in the next six weeks at least we've got
a few that are trying to qualify and only sort
of one race went away from being in the big
day And the other thing I wanted to mention today
bumped into an Auckland lawyer in Palmerston North earlier this

(33:43):
morning who tells me he's playing in a tournament that
has been going since nineteen thirty two lawyers only, but
I love it. It's the Devil's Own golf tournament and
hope for the better two golf club. I'll tell you what,
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in
the clubhouse after that at the nineteenth to hear a
few of those store is that they've got to tell.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, jeez, hamershiff, it's lawyers only. Can you trust them
to keep an accurate scorecard? That's my question? Hey, thanks mate,
no worries. Hey, good good luck filling in for me.
I really appreciate it. Don't go too well or I
might come back. I might have to get on the
handpiece again.

Speaker 10 (34:17):
See you, Lada, you're pretty good than me.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
No, see, there we go. He's far too kind. We're
going to take a break and wrap it with a
Zaria hell.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
Jee, let's get the stay started.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay, wrapping the country with a Zaria hell filling in
for Barries soaper. Just before we go to Azaria, I
want to get a wee message from our partners at Farmstrong.
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A problem shared is a problem half okay, Azaria hal
joins us from Wellington News Talks, there'd be political reporter Azaria,
thank you for filling in at late notice. Now I'm
more interested in the Ryder Cup from New York rather
than Winston's announcement on Palestine. You'll probably be an opposite

(35:20):
to that.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
I have to admit that I actually don't know what
the Ryder Cup is, so I feel like that's not
a good that's pro it's not.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
A good start. It it's Europe versus USA and golf.
It's a bit like politically at the moment, it's a
wee bit Europe versus USA with Trump. But okay, what
do you reckon when he's going to do tomorrow morning?
Is it tomorrow morning?

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Our time?

Speaker 6 (35:41):
It is, yes, So this's a big deal, really an
end to the waiting game, as some people may say.
New Zealand's position on a potential Palestinian state will be
made clear tomorrow. We're expecting sort of late morning, maybe
early afternoon. But yeah, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters, he's
been in New York at the United Nations. That's ahead
of his speech to the UN General Assembly. That speech

(36:04):
we're expecting maybe eleven am or midday. In terms of
that one, it comes after a number of Allied countries
formally gave their positions or recognition of a Palestinian state.
That's Australia's Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi. He is formally recognized
a Palestinian state. So has the UK, France and Canada.
Winston Peters has been talking and meeting with world leaders

(36:26):
this week in New York at the UN about where
New Zealand is sort of aiming to land on recognition.
He's also defended the time it's taken New Zealand to
get to this. Obviously some other countries have done this
a little bit quicker, but previously the government has said
recognition of a Palestinian state as a matter of when,
not if so, it does seem like it will be

(36:49):
a big deal tomorrow in terms of New Zealand politics.
We're Winston Peter's lands on this one.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Okay, I've got about a minute to go.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
Do you agree?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Did you concur with how the CEOs rated The MPCE
is Erica Stanford and you spend a lot of time
observing politics in parliament? Is she the standout performer?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:06):
Erica Stanford, Seene is quite a high flyer. I mean
there's been a lot of education announcements recently. And in
terms of the mood of the boardroom, Erica Stanford's first
place with four point three eight out of five. Nicola
Wellers thirteenth out of twenty eight score of zero points
our three rather three point zero nine out of five,
Chris Lucks in fifteenth place. In terms of the Labor Party,

(37:28):
Chris Hopkins had a worse score than the Prime Minister.
He was rated about just a little bit over two
out of five on performance. There's been a bit of
a debate this morning actually as well, Senior Labor MP
Willie Jackson suggesting that Erica Stanford should be the Prime
Minister on Harold now Stanford than quipping that maybe Barbara

(37:49):
Edmonds should be the leader of Labor because she did
a little bit better than Hepkins. So it sparked a
bit of a political debate as well.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay Azari, I thank you very much for your time. Yeah,
keep your eye on Barbara Edmond and yeah, as a
potential labor leader, right, go the abs and more importantly,
go the stags along.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
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