December 7, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Lorin Clarke, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCallum, Richard Loe, and Phil Duncan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
At the dawn of the day in the Great Southern Ocean,
when the world's greatest fish was being landed and the
boat they were pulling it into was sinking. The sea
was quite lumpy, and the weather was foul, and the
plate with a map was a piston as an owl,
and the boys called out, Mauie, your cloud, let it go.
In the noise, he reached down for his grandmother's jawbone,
and he went at his mates and said, yes, we
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don't know how lucky we are, by a feeling might
have stumbled on something substantial.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Lucky we are.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Good day, Good afternoon, New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay. This
is the Country, brought to you by Brent. That is,
of course fred Dagg. And we don't know how lucky
we are. John Clark connic kiwe tomorrow night in Palmerston,
North is going to be the premiere of a movie
made by his daughter Lauren, who's waiting patiently on hold
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a movie slash doco. Not only fred Dagg it's called
here in New Zealand. Of course he was a bit
of a superstar across the other side of the Tasman
as well. So the Life and Times of fred Dagg
up next, this iconic rural character. And who did he
base fred Dag on? And where did he get the
fred dag voice from? Are you're going to find out
(01:33):
all that? Shortly with Lauren Today's Farmer Politician Panel Andrew
Hogart and Grant McCullum. Apparently there's a big rima announcement
tomorrow from the government, which is all they promise me
is going to be great news for farmers. Richard lower
former All Blacks, hard man doing the hard yards. He's
been up since four o'clock on the end of a
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drafting gate on a station I think it's called by
Kura Station. It was a bit of a dodgy connection
I had when I asked him to come on the
show a wee bit earlier this morning. So up for
grabs at there on farm sale twelve thousand lambs one
thousand years and imagine having a thousand cattle up for sale. Jeez,
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it's a gold mine, isn't it so? Richard Lowe Todd
Charteris is the chief executive of Rabobank. The latest farmer
confidence survey sees farmer sentiments down from record highs, but
to be fair, they were near record highs and it's
coming down not surprisingly off the back of Derry farmer
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confidence or a bit of a calling there and fell
Duncan on the weather, anything but cool. It's been a
very very warm a weekend around the country. In some
parts of the country are up where Richard Lowers I
think might he even have heat warnings. So we've got
all that to do on the country today. We've also
got our countdown to Christmas final week. This week we've
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got a great prize. This is a great Christmas prize
from Agri Trade. More about that with Michelle Awee but later.
But Lauren Clark, daughter of Fred Dagg up next to
kick off the country.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was thinking to a made of mine just the
other day, I'd like all Bruce Bowas actually who lives
up our way. He's been away on around the world
a barmido for a year more or less, I said,
describe the global possessing Bruce.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
He said, Fred, it's a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
If we don't know how you we are in this country.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So it's all going to be kicking off and parme
tomorrow night. Yes, the movie premiere or the docco premiere
of the new Fred dag movie, not only fred Dag,
Let's welcome onto the Country. And I've been lucky enough
to have an advanced screening of this, so I sort
of know what I'm talking about. Fred's or John Clark's daughter,
Lauren Clark, Lauren, I loved your Docco fantastic and fred
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Dagg for many of us who grew up with them
as just one of the most iconic Kiwi's of all time.
You must be so proud of your father.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I am proud of him. He's he very much sort
of there was a moment there where he describes it
in the movie as he talks about how there was
there was sort of one or two of them who
broke through the opposition back line and made it onto
television in the early seventies and were the first. He
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was one of the first people to sort of be
a New Zealander on screen. You know, he had a
Kiwi accent, he was laid back, he was embodying a
character that he sort of chose as the sort of
metaphor for Kiwism, which was the farmer, of course. And
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you know, when you look back, it's interesting because that
period of time, which for a certain generation of New
Zealanders feels like it was a whole era, was actually
lasted for less than four years. He was only he
only did fred dag for for yeah, three and a
bit years, But it had such an impact because before
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that nobody had done anything that was quite that specifically keyw.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
He moved to Australia, had great success there, further great
success there. Did fred Dagg out grow New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I think I don't know if fred Dag outgrew New Zealand,
but I think he was. He was, absolutely he was embraced.
That character was embraced so fully that it was it
was difficult for Dad and his audience to sort of
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reconfigure and you know, to use a contemporary overused word
that he would hate pivot, you know, he will he
sort of. It was such a kind of a beautiful
thing and it was such it was so much a
part of his audience's experience of him in New Zealand
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that he would have had to there was sort of
not a sort of second act in that and there
were lots of reasons why he then moved to Australia.
But yeah, I think that was you know, it was
a small media environment. I mean it really was back then.
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There was not a lot of other stuff going on,
and he in a way, he was one of the
first New Zealand comedians. He made he made a living,
he made his work sort of being funny on television.
And so you know, if you're one of the first
people to do that, and you do it with a
memorable character, it's it's kind of always going to be
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difficult to in a small pond do something different with that.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Lauren Clark with us John Clark's daughter aka fred Dagg.
He was famous a shooting star really in the mid
to late seventies. Of course, that Prime Minister back then
was Rob Muldoon and fred Dagg was a satirist and
he used to do some quiet cutting stuff. And I'm
picking on one scene in the movie or the docco
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where he's dealing with two black sheep and he's calling
them overstays, and this was a direct shot at Rob
Muldoon and how he treated the overstayers in New Zealand
at the time. Now Muldoon didn't like it, but the
state broadcaster, the NZBC didn't like it either.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Lauren, No, that's right, and I think that is partly,
you know, an early reaction to something that sort of
hadn't happened a lot before that, the somebody in the
media environment poking fun at the people the power that
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sort of was a bit new. But also it is
something that comes with the territory. You know, he had
things like that happen when he was on television in
Australia twenty years later. People don't like it when somebody
points out, you know, something that the audience is seeing,
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you know, but when somebody sort of represents the audience
and stands there and that means the old the old
fashioned way of saying it is, you know, points out
them has no clothes, that's obviously going to ruffle feathers.
And if people aren't used to that happening, it's something
that that can can get in the way. So it
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definitely Several times over Dad's career, I mean he was
fired by the ABC and the one for briand Or
who he did the satirical interviews with the Clark and
Door interviews. They were they were let go in political
rough times, just you know, it was disguised as a
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sort of budgetree coincidence and things like that. You know,
that sort of stuff happened throughout his career, and I
suppose in a way it's one measure of how successful
he was at at doing it that happened, but also
that it didn't happen more is another trick that he
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was got better and better at pulling.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I think we all have inspirations in our life. Fred
Dagg's or John Clark, your father's inspiration was a British
comic or comedian by the name of Peter Cock who
did a whole lot of stuff with Dudley Moore. So
that's kind of how he started or he based his
comic work off that. But what I found really interesting
in the docco or the movie was he based the
Fred Dag voice of Peter Kelly a race call.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Not only that he lived down the road, so he
used to go visit of him as often as he
could and just listen to him talk, listen to the
rhythm of his voice, listened to the sort of lilt
and the rise and the pauses and everything, and there
is a there is a sort of you know, there
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is a quality to dads sort of work, even though
he didn't do impressions. But you can see it even
in some of those you know, satirical interviews and in
his in his sort of you know, the key we
drawl of the Fred character. You can see him immit,
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hating you know, you can see the way he's using language.
He's a reflection. And he used to say about you know,
about Fred Dag that that was based on I mean,
he he didn't grow up on a farm. He grew
up in pame In, in sort of deep suburbia, but
his you know family, he had uncles and endless uncles
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on farms, and he when he was kicked out of school,
he joined sharing gangs. And he didn't just like the farmers.
He just thought they were so inventive with language and something.
He was really sort of I mean, he really did
think that was a bit of a key we tray,
you know that, you know, if there's nothing to do,
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we'll sit here and we'll just be interesting with the
way we express ourselves for the next half an hour,
and the half hour will go much faster.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Well, you've told the story beautifully, the movie is Not
Only fred Dagg, or that's what it's titled here in
New Zealand. The premiere is in Parmi tomorrow night. It'll
be in cinemas on Boxing Day. Lauren Clark, great to
chat with you. As I said, I'm of a generation
who grew up with fred Dagg and loved them. I
think everyone loved fred Dagg. Thanks for your time. It's
a great watch.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Thank you so much. Jamie cheers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Let it go, Thank you, Lauren. Yes, Palmerston North tomorrow night,
let'sen glamour the premiere of Not Only fred Dagg. It
is really good and it's going to be in cinemas
on Boxing days, so go along. Interestingly, we didn't get
time with Lauren to go through all of this, but
you might remember he put out an album called fred
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Dagg's Greatest hitson It was one of the biggest selling
KIWI albums of all time. And one of the other
interesting things to come out of the film Slash Doco
was how much he had to do with Sam Neil
in their early days. They did kind of an iconic
movie together in the early nineties. He was very successful
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when he went across the Tasman and I'm told and
I haven't seen the series, but I'm told the series
are The Games, which was a satirical piss take really
on the Sydney Olympics or the build up to the
Sydney Olympics, is absolutely brilliant. I've got it on my
must do list. Up next it is the Farmer Panel
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Andrew Hoggard, Minister of Bio Security, Associate Agriculture Minister Grant McCallum,
a Northland MP farmer politician panel. Big story coming out
or big announcement on the from the government tomorrow. Apparently
Richard Lowe's at Waikoura station. It's literally in the back
of beyond. We're going to find out what he's up to.
Todd charteris on the latest farmer confidence survey. It's dipped awe,
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but all bet from near record highs and if we
get time. Phil Duncan on the weather. It's pretty hot
out there today in many parts of the country. Michelle,
I wander in here and we will also tell you
all about today's count down to Christmas Prize. It is
a beauty. I can tell you that. I can promise
you that. From Agritradet.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Wonderful.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
As they keep out the water, can they keep in
as well?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And when you're sitting around at home you can all
away hell when tram to take an army gum.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Gum?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
How good was Fred Guess? The premiere of the movie
tomorrow night in Palmerston North. Let's welcome on to the
show our farmer politician panel. One of them is from
Palmerston North or the man or two Andrew Hoggard by
Security Minister, Associate agg Minister, and he's a bit of
a celebrity in PARMI no doubt Andrew, you'll be lining
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up in your penguin suit tomorrow night for the premiere.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Unfortunately, we've got a quite a busy week in Parliament,
getting a lot of really important legislation past this week,
so I have to be in the house doing the
business unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Okay, Grant McCullum, you turn up at the opening of
an envelope and you're not really an important member of
the National Party. So are you going to turn up
in Palmerston North Nothing You enjoy more than a few
flights at the taxpayer's expense from Northland?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got love to go
I'm of advantage.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I remember all this.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I grew up with Fred Dag and all his great
songs and videos. It's an amazing character. I'd love to
go along, but unfortunately got to be in Parliament to
pass some very important legislation that will will be good
for the farming community.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Okay, well we'll leave, they'll stay with you, Andrew. What
is what are we getting the new RMA bill tomorrow
or something? What's happening there?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Yes, yeah, well the replacement for the RMA hopefully is
I assume it's all happening this week, and some other
changes there that will certainly help our farmers out. Can't
go on too much of us. I'll get in trouble
for stealing christ Bishop's announcement often.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah, I've done it, weed better on that. Tomorrow they're
having a lock up you know how they do with
the budget, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, is that like they used to have in
the Riversdale Pub when I was a young block ten o'clock.
The doors would shut and you're either you were on
either side of them.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
No, see that to be a free Dag story.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
From a lock up. Okay, away you go, Grant, so
you're they had to spill the beans. Obviously, Andrew's a
bit more discreet.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
They're having a lock up tomorrow leading up to one
o'clock when they'll actually put on the publicly released and
Chris will talk about it then. But yeah, so it's
going to be a big day, a really big day
for this Parliament'll be broth the most important thing we pass.
With all due respect to all the stuff that Andrew's
done today, I think it's going to be this biggest
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thing we'll do.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
Yeah, this is definitely the most important thing we do.
I've had a bit to do with it, and that's
the most needed stuff in agriculture right now.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And that's not minde. It's not the only announcement this week, Andrew.
You're announcing changes to micro abattoir rules.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Yeah, probably not in the same league, but to each
their own. Yeah, just today has just been visiting a
micro avatire out of christ Church and making some changes
there around the testing requirements they have to do. At
the moment, they have to sort of do the same
testing requirements the big boys, and just yeah, basing it
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on reducing things, making it more risk proportionate based on
size the guys with today he reckoned it to take
about seventy percent of the costs out of his business
and allow them to do more and probably, in his opinion,
allow more people to set up micro abbatoire, so you know,
not only creating options for consumers but also for farmers
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as well. So that's just you know, there's a number
of things across food safety where everything's just designed for
one size fits all and slowly going through and making
them much more risk proportionate so that we don't just
add costs onto food everywhere.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Grant McCallum, are you sent me a text with your
subjects or your topics of choice for today and you
said you wanted to talk about doing battle with Chloe.
Of course, last week Shane Jones was on the show.
I don't know whether you caught up with that. He
had previously called her a demonic egg beater. I think,
and this is just off the top of my head,
because he has so many I think it was a
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rent seeking kling on this time. Poor old Chloe.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, I don't feel too sorry for her, but it's
interesting we had and I had crosswords twice last week
in the Select Committee over over methane emissions. The chinkers.
By time for greens had their way, mate, they'll be
taxing methane. They'll be they'll be taxing you here and
taxing your wealth and capital games tax There'll be nothing left.
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There wouldn't be a reason to get out of bed
in the morning. Just highlights why we've got.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
To keep that lot out of power.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
And you mention your next year is all about making
sure we get returned, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Andrew, Oh, definitely.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean these I didn't get to see any of that,
but you know this attitude that we've got to reduce
methane down to zero. No scientists are saying that. You know,
we had a review that was done by eminently qualified scientists,
top of the game in New Zealand being involved with
the IPCC. They said, look, here is the amount you
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need to reduce down to actually have no additional impact
on warming. And that's where we've set it. So it's
all science based and to achieve it, we don't need
to come up with a whole range of hair brain
taxes to do it. Farmers are well on the way
to achieving it. So one, if we want to introduce
extra costs and complexity.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Into the whole thing, just a couple of quickly finish
on because I'm running out of time. How are we
getting on with the hornets and Auckland there, Andrew your
biosecurity minister.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was up there on Friday having a
look around the area in.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Question.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
You know, a good operation going there.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The key thing.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Everyone's going on about the traps, but it's actually the
people on the ground that are walking around doing the
property searches that are discovering them. And so far all
the discoveries are in a pretty tight knit circle. So
that is sort of you know, in one way, it's
positive that they're not being found here, there and everywhere.
And you know, we've gotten some call technollogy, and we
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will put some tracking technology on workers once they emerge
and be able to track them back to the nests
to be able to further eradicate them. So you know
it's going to be a you know, it's gonna not
going to be something we clean up straight away. It'll
be probably a year or two.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
How do you put a tracker on a print? How
do you put a tracker on or was it was
with tweezes?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
It's quite quite a.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
Quite a process, so it's much easier to put an
egg nake tag on account there's various traps you've got
to go through and a little pincer thing you've got
to grab them, and then yeah, it's doable. I was
quite impressed with the technology and so that's that's what
they're using over in Europe to be able to track
down the nests really effectively.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And just to finish on because I do need to
wrap this. Grant McCallum, the gloves are off already in
Northland one year out from the election. You're putting the
knife into Shane Jones, the Prince of the provinces.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Are you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Scheme to all our buy cats for Maryland to be landed?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:59):
So the dead Marlon currently got to let them go
along with the live ones and the long runers think
about age men to land them. Last time they tried
that with some swordfish in the nineties the by catch
went from a hundred time to one thousand times. And
so we don't want that happening with Marlon.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And we had a meeting or I was part of.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
And will they support the sports fishery people in the
fact that Marlin's term want to our sector up north
for to be landed. We can't have this happen again.
And so another flip flock coming from the man from
marsh Old Chaine, the Prince.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
There we go Grant McCullum Andrew Hoggard Today's Farmer Politician
Panel as we count down to the premiere of the
fred Dagg movie and FARMI tomorrow and no, I'm surprised
Andrew's not going now. We're going to take a break
and very quickly we're going to go to Richard Low
because I said i'd call him at twelve thirty. He's
been on the drafting gates since four o'clock this morning.
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Apparently we are heading to Waikura station. It's way up
the top of the country. We're going to tell you,
and what's happening next with Richard Low.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
You'd be in the hospital, Lauren or even and you
didn't have.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And they were plowing it into was sinking. The sea
was quite lumpy, and.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
The weather was foul.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And the plot with a map with a pest as
an hour and the boys called out, Mawire.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You welcome back to the country. Twenty six away from one.
We all love fred Dagg, don't we? Here's a man
who's the same generation as me, so he would have
grown up with fred Dagg as well. Former All Blacks
hard man Richard Lowe doing the hard yards on the
draft and gate. But what are your memories of fred
Dagg LOWI?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Yeah, you know, you can remin this and a tune
that once you hear it like a justed then it
brings back a few memories. But a couple of the
locals up here standard off the day, three of them
and gunloots, and they probably knew something that was going on,
but they have tendered the wilts since the temperature has
gone up.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I see that. I read I got an email this
morning there's a heat warning for the Gisbane region and
you're just are you sort of half as why Kurras
Station sort of halfway on the road between Gisbone and
a Potocky.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You come over the hill to the coast and then
your catain land here. It's beautiful country, surrounded by native
bosh but the gully of you know, a bear land
graft lands and it's a great it's a great propertyards
to yet yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I hope it's not surrounded by pine trees is.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It can't see a pine tree anywhere we patched the
minonca and that sort of thing. And yeah, I saw
it on the drive up from down south. I saw
a fair bit of that. It wasn't it wasn't pleasant viewing.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
No.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I thought you were a sort of a semi retired
gentleman farmer these days, based on the banks poentially, what
are you doing way up there?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
My son got me up. He's a sock agent of this,
and he got me up as a bit of cheap lavery.
I am a few days, so that's what I've been doing.
We're up here with his team Hadway and we're just
drafting up. It's a huge, huge draft, about ten thousand,
using about three thousand coron it. So they put about
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ten thousand odd lambs up a thousand odd cattle, and
I think it's about ten thousand, i'd use.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I'm not sure, yees, I'll tell you what LOWI with
the price of beef at the moment, they could afford
probably to pay us some wages a thousand cattle. Imagine
imagine how much that would bring in.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I suggest that con mission check check will be fairly good.
But I did one on Palm Tale in North Canterbury
last week got two seventy for a content.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah, it is amazing you've been You've been in the
farming industry effectively all your life. And correct me if
I'm wrong. You actually started out as a stock agent.
Have you known sheep and beef to be this boyant
and you're what forty years in the business.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
No, it's fray and it looks as it's going to
remain up there for some time. You know, the lamb's good, muttons,
good beef of every description is good. And you know
it's probable numbers are going to keep it up there
for a while because demand is good. But they're not
a lot of numbers out there, are there.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
No, the only thing that's not good at the moment
is the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, well we've got where summer now, that's what thirty
thirty odd degrees here and there, thirty three or four
in the Hawk's base are set in summer.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, I know it's summer, but we've got to what
we normally do over summer, as all Black fans, and
you're closer to the action than most of us. We
do like to solve the problems for rays. If you
were picking the all blacks. What would be the one
thing you would do? There you go, you can discive
us an answer to them. We'll let you go and
have some lunch.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I reckon, if I was rad I'd try to take
more control like a ras must. And yet I think
we've got too more, too many noises coming out of
addressing shed.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
But that's just meat now, I reckon you might be
banging on that Rasi. Rassi has got that job through
till the twenty thirty one Rugby World Cup in the US.
So he's going to do four Rugby World Cups.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah, and I'll bet you when they go into the
changing shed, he says ninety nine percent of what's to
be said. Not every assistant coach have done some description.
I think that's our biggest problem, that all that book
that they come out confused. Who do we listen to
the first?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're banging on. Hey, thanks for
your timement and yam, I.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Just got to kick from old Joe Stanley about an
now ago to remind me that he was coming down
to Canterbury this weekend because him and I apparently are
doing a rodeo over to the West Coast. John Sturgeon's
ninety birthday.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Oh well, John Sturgeon is a great New Zealander and
he was. He was the manager of the All Blacks.
Me and you and Joe Stanley were in there.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Right, so yes, he probably vue sit in as well.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well, you would have taken a bit of looking after,
so he did bloody well there anyhow, Richard Low, and
say a load to your son. Jerkie's a great bloke
and of course he's with haslets and no doubt that
they're going to be very busy over the next few days.
That on farm sale, by the way, is tomorrow, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yes? One pm up here?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Good on you, hey, thanks for your time. Really appreciate it, Jamie.
Right there we go, Richard Low. That's it. That's handy
calling in a favor from the old man, isn't it right?
We're running behind time. Michelle is chomping at the bit
to talk about the countdown to Christmas. This is a
great prize. It's from Agritrade. We've got some drench which
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not all of you can use, but we've also got
some other stuff to go with it. So thank you
to Agritrade. We will tell you about that We've also
got to catch up with Todd Charteris before the end
of there. That latest Rabobank Farmer confidence survey is out.
It's down sentiments down from record highs. Are with dairy
farmers a bit less confident, but the sheep and beef
(27:58):
guys and the key fruit growers are humming at the moment,
So we'll talk about that with Todd Chartress before the
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It is sixteen away from one. Here's Michelle with the
latest and rural news and then we'll do it. Then
we'll do our countdown to Christmas and sport. Remind me,
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And spotted over the weekend just around the corner from Parliament,
Federated Farmers have decorated one of the walls with another
digital billboard. This time they're doing a countdown at twelve
days of the Peace of Christmas. It's rather entertaining.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I wonder if Chloe makes that list for federating farmers.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
There is a little poem I might post it on
a Facebook page later that goes with it, so I'll
post it made.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
The feeds have been very creative with their billboard campaigns
in the middle of the city. So this is the
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Speaker 9 (30:29):
Is it?
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Yeah, something like that.
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And we've got Richardawkins on the show tomorrow to for
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Before I forget an old that's not that's a just
Doug Lang from Hawk's Bay Today. Doug does a great
job with all the sharing. And here's my favorite sporting
story of the weekend. I won't mention my success on
the Southern Swing. That would just be gloating, Michelle. My
favorite story for the weekend is dig a Barm winning
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the Rotorua Amp Show's Agridome Share Open. So this guy's
in his fortieth season in the open class. He's sixty
years of age and he's got a cute son called
Kyle who's autistic, and Kyle just loves dad going along
to the sharing and then he can and Kyle's hero,
I think is Jack Fagan and that's why Digger goes along.
(31:19):
But he's a champion bloke. They're a champion family. And
I just think you've been on the handpiece for forty years.
What a legend.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
That's amazing, isn't it really, especially because sharing's very physical,
as you know, Jamie, and I think someone at that
age doing it is pretty incredible.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't know how his body holds together. He's a
warrior anyhow. I should have done that from a sports news.
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is dead, saying one dimensional cricket is unsustainable. I'm with
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and Nathan Smith, along with spinner Mitch Mitchell Santner. We'll
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but don't panic. We've got the Lumsdon, the Lumsdon Bullet
or whatever they call him, Jacob Duffy. Gee, he's had
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a good season. So anyhow, that's your sports news, Michelle.
On Friday, I was swining off playing golf. Hamish mckuy
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So have you got the list of what they've got
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I have.
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Indeed, they've got an excellent tech pack, so you might
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True well, is useful for the sheep, probably not for you,
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Yeah, yeah, And it might be a good idea if
you're a farmer to enter this one. They're not much
used for the townies, but we've got stuff for you
townies later in the week. Five litre pack of vet
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like an Alexa speaker, right, is that what it is?
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Yep?
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(35:14):
It is seven away from one. Look just having trouble
tracking Todd Charters down, Chief executive of Rabobank. We'll have
a look at that farmer confidence survey for you tomorrow.
But as Michelle alluded to, we've got three days left
after agri trade today for your countdown to Christmas. Tomorrow
it's silver Fern Farms meat Ah. Wednesday it is CBS,
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which is.
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Speaker 7 (35:53):
But word for your guns, where would you be?
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But word for you umbers?
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Weather on the country with farmlands helping to prevent parasite
outbreaks this summer.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Okay, Phil, dunk and at late notice filling in for
Todd Chartist. We'll try and get tired on the show tomorrow. Phil,
I'm reading from the Met Service heat warnings. Heat alerts
have been issued for Gisbone and Hastings today, expecting thirty
two to thirty four degrees.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Yeah, it's it's pretty hot around many parts of the
North Island, you know, it's getting up to the upper
twenties across Auckland and Waikato. But if you look at
you know, the Gisbane area and look at Hawks Bay
Inland and northern Hawks Bay, Yeah, these areas are getting
over thirty degrees thirty two to thirty three around Gisbon
at the moment. And you know it's only just gone
past the middle of the day, so not an hour
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or two of heating to go so hot and dry
summer like beer, but quite cooler in the South Island.
You know, seen a cooler airflow coming through on the
east sometimes when Hawks Base thirty Christchurchers too, but Christ
Shirt is only about eighteen or seventeen at the moment.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, and I know the dry parts did get a
wee bit of rain, they obviously need a bit more.
Looking at the need would drought Index map, is there
anything coming for the drier regions this week?
Speaker 9 (37:15):
Fill so no, not really apart from a few downpours
and thunderstorms that are likely around the sort of central
part of the North Island on Sunday, most of the
North Island's not really seeing rain this week. Pretty dry.
Similar story in Nelson, Marlborough and most of Canterbury. There
might be a little bit of wet weather at the
south of Canterbury, but Southland and the west coast of
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the two areas that are likely to get the most
of the rain. And even then where you're talking about
fifteen millimeters at the most or twenty millimeters.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, I was in Southland on the weekend, Phil for
a golf thing. Well done to the Riversdale Golf Club,
the Mbicrgo Golf Club and the Harriet Golf Club. But
they're even looking for a bit of rain down there
and they're a lot better off than the east coast
of both islands.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
That's me done and dusted, will be back tomorrow and
we promise to get Todd Charteris from Rabobank on to
talk about farmer confidence. Catch you then.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
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is the Country, brought to you by Brent. That is,
of course fred Dagg. And we don't know how lucky
we are. John Clark connic kiwe tomorrow night in Palmerston,
North is going to be the premiere of a movie
made by his daughter Lauren, who's waiting patiently on hold
(01:12):
a movie slash doco. Not only fred Dagg it's called
here in New Zealand. Of course he was a bit
of a superstar across the other side of the Tasman
as well. So the Life and Times of fred Dagg
up next, this iconic rural character. And who did he
base fred Dag on? And where did he get the
fred dag voice from? Are you're going to find out
(01:33):
all that? Shortly with Lauren Today's Farmer Politician Panel Andrew
Hogart and Grant McCullum. Apparently there's a big rima announcement
tomorrow from the government, which is all they promise me
is going to be great news for farmers. Richard lower
former All Blacks, hard man doing the hard yards. He's
been up since four o'clock on the end of a
(01:53):
drafting gate on a station I think it's called by
Kura Station. It was a bit of a dodgy connection
I had when I asked him to come on the
show a wee bit earlier this morning. So up for
grabs at there on farm sale twelve thousand lambs one
thousand years and imagine having a thousand cattle up for sale. Jeez,
(02:14):
it's a gold mine, isn't it so? Richard Lowe Todd
Charteris is the chief executive of Rabobank. The latest farmer
confidence survey sees farmer sentiments down from record highs, but
to be fair, they were near record highs and it's
coming down not surprisingly off the back of Derry farmer
(02:36):
confidence or a bit of a calling there and fell
Duncan on the weather, anything but cool. It's been a
very very warm a weekend around the country. In some
parts of the country are up where Richard Lowers I
think might he even have heat warnings. So we've got
all that to do on the country today. We've also
got our countdown to Christmas final week. This week we've
(02:57):
got a great prize. This is a great Christmas prize
from Agri Trade. More about that with Michelle Awee but later.
But Lauren Clark, daughter of Fred Dagg up next to
kick off the country.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was thinking to a made of mine just the
other day, I'd like all Bruce Bowas actually who lives
up our way. He's been away on around the world
a barmido for a year more or less, I said,
describe the global possessing Bruce.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
He said, Fred, it's a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
If we don't know how you we are in this country.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So it's all going to be kicking off and parme
tomorrow night. Yes, the movie premiere or the docco premiere
of the new Fred dag movie, not only fred Dag,
Let's welcome onto the Country. And I've been lucky enough
to have an advanced screening of this, so I sort
of know what I'm talking about. Fred's or John Clark's daughter,
Lauren Clark, Lauren, I loved your Docco fantastic and fred
(03:57):
Dagg for many of us who grew up with them
as just one of the most iconic Kiwi's of all time.
You must be so proud of your father.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I am proud of him. He's he very much sort
of there was a moment there where he describes it
in the movie as he talks about how there was
there was sort of one or two of them who
broke through the opposition back line and made it onto
television in the early seventies and were the first. He
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was one of the first people to sort of be
a New Zealander on screen. You know, he had a
Kiwi accent, he was laid back, he was embodying a
character that he sort of chose as the sort of
metaphor for Kiwism, which was the farmer, of course. And
(04:48):
you know, when you look back, it's interesting because that
period of time, which for a certain generation of New
Zealanders feels like it was a whole era, was actually
lasted for less than four years. He was only he
only did fred dag for for yeah, three and a
bit years, But it had such an impact because before
(05:12):
that nobody had done anything that was quite that specifically keyw.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
He moved to Australia, had great success there, further great
success there. Did fred Dagg out grow New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I think I don't know if fred Dag outgrew New Zealand,
but I think he was. He was, absolutely he was embraced.
That character was embraced so fully that it was it
was difficult for Dad and his audience to sort of
(05:51):
reconfigure and you know, to use a contemporary overused word
that he would hate pivot, you know, he will he
sort of. It was such a kind of a beautiful
thing and it was such it was so much a
part of his audience's experience of him in New Zealand
(06:11):
that he would have had to there was sort of
not a sort of second act in that and there
were lots of reasons why he then moved to Australia.
But yeah, I think that was you know, it was
a small media environment. I mean it really was back then.
(06:32):
There was not a lot of other stuff going on,
and he in a way, he was one of the
first New Zealand comedians. He made he made a living,
he made his work sort of being funny on television.
And so you know, if you're one of the first
people to do that, and you do it with a
memorable character, it's it's kind of always going to be
(06:56):
difficult to in a small pond do something different with that.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Lauren Clark with us John Clark's daughter aka fred Dagg.
He was famous a shooting star really in the mid
to late seventies. Of course, that Prime Minister back then
was Rob Muldoon and fred Dagg was a satirist and
he used to do some quiet cutting stuff. And I'm
picking on one scene in the movie or the docco
(07:25):
where he's dealing with two black sheep and he's calling
them overstays, and this was a direct shot at Rob
Muldoon and how he treated the overstayers in New Zealand
at the time. Now Muldoon didn't like it, but the
state broadcaster, the NZBC didn't like it either.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Lauren, No, that's right, and I think that is partly,
you know, an early reaction to something that sort of
hadn't happened a lot before that, the somebody in the
media environment poking fun at the people the power that
(08:02):
sort of was a bit new. But also it is
something that comes with the territory. You know, he had
things like that happen when he was on television in
Australia twenty years later. People don't like it when somebody
points out, you know, something that the audience is seeing,
(08:23):
you know, but when somebody sort of represents the audience
and stands there and that means the old the old
fashioned way of saying it is, you know, points out
them has no clothes, that's obviously going to ruffle feathers.
And if people aren't used to that happening, it's something
that that can can get in the way. So it
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definitely Several times over Dad's career, I mean he was
fired by the ABC and the one for briand Or
who he did the satirical interviews with the Clark and
Door interviews. They were they were let go in political
rough times, just you know, it was disguised as a
(09:07):
sort of budgetree coincidence and things like that. You know,
that sort of stuff happened throughout his career, and I
suppose in a way it's one measure of how successful
he was at at doing it that happened, but also
that it didn't happen more is another trick that he
(09:28):
was got better and better at pulling.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I think we all have inspirations in our life. Fred
Dagg's or John Clark, your father's inspiration was a British
comic or comedian by the name of Peter Cock who
did a whole lot of stuff with Dudley Moore. So
that's kind of how he started or he based his
comic work off that. But what I found really interesting
in the docco or the movie was he based the
Fred Dag voice of Peter Kelly a race call.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Not only that he lived down the road, so he
used to go visit of him as often as he
could and just listen to him talk, listen to the
rhythm of his voice, listened to the sort of lilt
and the rise and the pauses and everything, and there
is a there is a sort of you know, there
(10:18):
is a quality to dads sort of work, even though
he didn't do impressions. But you can see it even
in some of those you know, satirical interviews and in
his in his sort of you know, the key we
drawl of the Fred character. You can see him immit,
(10:39):
hating you know, you can see the way he's using language.
He's a reflection. And he used to say about you know,
about Fred Dag that that was based on I mean,
he he didn't grow up on a farm. He grew
up in pame In, in sort of deep suburbia, but
his you know family, he had uncles and endless uncles
(11:01):
on farms, and he when he was kicked out of school,
he joined sharing gangs. And he didn't just like the farmers.
He just thought they were so inventive with language and something.
He was really sort of I mean, he really did
think that was a bit of a key we tray,
you know that, you know, if there's nothing to do,
(11:21):
we'll sit here and we'll just be interesting with the
way we express ourselves for the next half an hour,
and the half hour will go much faster.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Well, you've told the story beautifully, the movie is Not
Only fred Dagg, or that's what it's titled here in
New Zealand. The premiere is in Parmi tomorrow night. It'll
be in cinemas on Boxing Day. Lauren Clark, great to
chat with you. As I said, I'm of a generation
who grew up with fred Dagg and loved them. I
think everyone loved fred Dagg. Thanks for your time. It's
a great watch.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Thank you so much. Jamie cheers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Let it go, Thank you, Lauren. Yes, Palmerston North tomorrow night,
let'sen glamour the premiere of Not Only fred Dagg. It
is really good and it's going to be in cinemas
on Boxing days, so go along. Interestingly, we didn't get
time with Lauren to go through all of this, but
you might remember he put out an album called fred
(12:15):
Dagg's Greatest hitson It was one of the biggest selling
KIWI albums of all time. And one of the other
interesting things to come out of the film Slash Doco
was how much he had to do with Sam Neil
in their early days. They did kind of an iconic
movie together in the early nineties. He was very successful
(12:35):
when he went across the Tasman and I'm told and
I haven't seen the series, but I'm told the series
are The Games, which was a satirical piss take really
on the Sydney Olympics or the build up to the
Sydney Olympics, is absolutely brilliant. I've got it on my
must do list. Up next it is the Farmer Panel
(12:57):
Andrew Hoggard, Minister of Bio Security, Associate Agriculture Minister Grant McCallum,
a Northland MP farmer politician panel. Big story coming out
or big announcement on the from the government tomorrow. Apparently
Richard Lowe's at Waikoura station. It's literally in the back
of beyond. We're going to find out what he's up to.
Todd charteris on the latest farmer confidence survey. It's dipped awe,
(13:20):
but all bet from near record highs and if we
get time. Phil Duncan on the weather. It's pretty hot
out there today in many parts of the country. Michelle,
I wander in here and we will also tell you
all about today's count down to Christmas Prize. It is
a beauty. I can tell you that. I can promise
you that. From Agritradet.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Wonderful.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
As they keep out the water, can they keep in
as well?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And when you're sitting around at home you can all
away hell when tram to take an army gum.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Gum?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
How good was Fred Guess? The premiere of the movie
tomorrow night in Palmerston North. Let's welcome on to the
show our farmer politician panel. One of them is from
Palmerston North or the man or two Andrew Hoggard by
Security Minister, Associate agg Minister, and he's a bit of
a celebrity in PARMI no doubt Andrew, you'll be lining
(14:25):
up in your penguin suit tomorrow night for the premiere.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Unfortunately, we've got a quite a busy week in Parliament,
getting a lot of really important legislation past this week,
so I have to be in the house doing the
business unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Okay, Grant McCullum, you turn up at the opening of
an envelope and you're not really an important member of
the National Party. So are you going to turn up
in Palmerston North Nothing You enjoy more than a few
flights at the taxpayer's expense from Northland?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got love to go
I'm of advantage.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I remember all this.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I grew up with Fred Dag and all his great
songs and videos. It's an amazing character. I'd love to
go along, but unfortunately got to be in Parliament to
pass some very important legislation that will will be good
for the farming community.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Okay, well we'll leave, they'll stay with you, Andrew. What
is what are we getting the new RMA bill tomorrow
or something? What's happening there?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Yes, yeah, well the replacement for the RMA hopefully is
I assume it's all happening this week, and some other
changes there that will certainly help our farmers out. Can't
go on too much of us. I'll get in trouble
for stealing christ Bishop's announcement often.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah, I've done it, weed better on that. Tomorrow they're
having a lock up you know how they do with
the budget, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, is that like they used to have in
the Riversdale Pub when I was a young block ten o'clock.
The doors would shut and you're either you were on
either side of them.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
No, see that to be a free Dag story.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
From a lock up. Okay, away you go, Grant, so
you're they had to spill the beans. Obviously, Andrew's a
bit more discreet.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
They're having a lock up tomorrow leading up to one
o'clock when they'll actually put on the publicly released and
Chris will talk about it then. But yeah, so it's
going to be a big day, a really big day
for this Parliament'll be broth the most important thing we pass.
With all due respect to all the stuff that Andrew's
done today, I think it's going to be this biggest
(16:25):
thing we'll do.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
Yeah, this is definitely the most important thing we do.
I've had a bit to do with it, and that's
the most needed stuff in agriculture right now.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And that's not minde. It's not the only announcement this week, Andrew.
You're announcing changes to micro abattoir rules.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Yeah, probably not in the same league, but to each
their own. Yeah, just today has just been visiting a
micro avatire out of christ Church and making some changes
there around the testing requirements they have to do. At
the moment, they have to sort of do the same
testing requirements the big boys, and just yeah, basing it
(17:03):
on reducing things, making it more risk proportionate based on
size the guys with today he reckoned it to take
about seventy percent of the costs out of his business
and allow them to do more and probably, in his opinion,
allow more people to set up micro abbatoire, so you know,
not only creating options for consumers but also for farmers
(17:24):
as well. So that's just you know, there's a number
of things across food safety where everything's just designed for
one size fits all and slowly going through and making
them much more risk proportionate so that we don't just
add costs onto food everywhere.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Grant McCallum, are you sent me a text with your
subjects or your topics of choice for today and you
said you wanted to talk about doing battle with Chloe.
Of course, last week Shane Jones was on the show.
I don't know whether you caught up with that. He
had previously called her a demonic egg beater. I think,
and this is just off the top of my head,
because he has so many I think it was a
(18:01):
rent seeking kling on this time. Poor old Chloe.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, I don't feel too sorry for her, but it's
interesting we had and I had crosswords twice last week
in the Select Committee over over methane emissions. The chinkers.
By time for greens had their way, mate, they'll be
taxing methane. They'll be they'll be taxing you here and
taxing your wealth and capital games tax There'll be nothing left.
(18:25):
There wouldn't be a reason to get out of bed
in the morning. Just highlights why we've got.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
To keep that lot out of power.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
And you mention your next year is all about making
sure we get returned, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Andrew, Oh, definitely.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean these I didn't get to see any of that,
but you know this attitude that we've got to reduce
methane down to zero. No scientists are saying that. You know,
we had a review that was done by eminently qualified scientists,
top of the game in New Zealand being involved with
the IPCC. They said, look, here is the amount you
(18:59):
need to reduce down to actually have no additional impact
on warming. And that's where we've set it. So it's
all science based and to achieve it, we don't need
to come up with a whole range of hair brain
taxes to do it. Farmers are well on the way
to achieving it. So one, if we want to introduce
extra costs and complexity.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Into the whole thing, just a couple of quickly finish
on because I'm running out of time. How are we
getting on with the hornets and Auckland there, Andrew your
biosecurity minister.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was up there on Friday having a
look around the area in.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Question.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
You know, a good operation going there.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The key thing.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Everyone's going on about the traps, but it's actually the
people on the ground that are walking around doing the
property searches that are discovering them. And so far all
the discoveries are in a pretty tight knit circle. So
that is sort of you know, in one way, it's
positive that they're not being found here, there and everywhere.
And you know, we've gotten some call technollogy, and we
(20:01):
will put some tracking technology on workers once they emerge
and be able to track them back to the nests
to be able to further eradicate them. So you know
it's going to be a you know, it's gonna not
going to be something we clean up straight away. It'll
be probably a year or two.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
How do you put a tracker on a print? How
do you put a tracker on or was it was
with tweezes?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
It's quite quite a.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
Quite a process, so it's much easier to put an
egg nake tag on account there's various traps you've got
to go through and a little pincer thing you've got
to grab them, and then yeah, it's doable. I was
quite impressed with the technology and so that's that's what
they're using over in Europe to be able to track
down the nests really effectively.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And just to finish on because I do need to
wrap this. Grant McCallum, the gloves are off already in
Northland one year out from the election. You're putting the
knife into Shane Jones, the Prince of the provinces.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Are you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Scheme to all our buy cats for Maryland to be landed?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:59):
So the dead Marlon currently got to let them go
along with the live ones and the long runers think
about age men to land them. Last time they tried
that with some swordfish in the nineties the by catch
went from a hundred time to one thousand times. And
so we don't want that happening with Marlon.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And we had a meeting or I was part of.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
And will they support the sports fishery people in the
fact that Marlin's term want to our sector up north
for to be landed. We can't have this happen again.
And so another flip flock coming from the man from
marsh Old Chaine, the Prince.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
There we go Grant McCullum Andrew Hoggard Today's Farmer Politician
Panel as we count down to the premiere of the
fred Dagg movie and FARMI tomorrow and no, I'm surprised
Andrew's not going now. We're going to take a break
and very quickly we're going to go to Richard Low
because I said i'd call him at twelve thirty. He's
been on the drafting gates since four o'clock this morning.
(21:52):
Apparently we are heading to Waikura station. It's way up
the top of the country. We're going to tell you,
and what's happening next with Richard Low.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
You'd be in the hospital, Lauren or even and you
didn't have.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And they were plowing it into was sinking. The sea
was quite lumpy, and.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
The weather was foul.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And the plot with a map with a pest as
an hour and the boys called out, Mawire.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You welcome back to the country. Twenty six away from one.
We all love fred Dagg, don't we? Here's a man
who's the same generation as me, so he would have
grown up with fred Dagg as well. Former All Blacks
hard man Richard Lowe doing the hard yards on the
draft and gate. But what are your memories of fred
Dagg LOWI?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Yeah, you know, you can remin this and a tune
that once you hear it like a justed then it
brings back a few memories. But a couple of the
locals up here standard off the day, three of them
and gunloots, and they probably knew something that was going on,
but they have tendered the wilts since the temperature has
gone up.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I see that. I read I got an email this
morning there's a heat warning for the Gisbane region and
you're just are you sort of half as why Kurras
Station sort of halfway on the road between Gisbone and
a Potocky.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You come over the hill to the coast and then
your catain land here. It's beautiful country, surrounded by native
bosh but the gully of you know, a bear land
graft lands and it's a great it's a great propertyards
to yet yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I hope it's not surrounded by pine trees is.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It can't see a pine tree anywhere we patched the
minonca and that sort of thing. And yeah, I saw
it on the drive up from down south. I saw
a fair bit of that. It wasn't it wasn't pleasant viewing.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
No.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I thought you were a sort of a semi retired
gentleman farmer these days, based on the banks poentially, what
are you doing way up there?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
My son got me up. He's a sock agent of this,
and he got me up as a bit of cheap lavery.
I am a few days, so that's what I've been doing.
We're up here with his team Hadway and we're just
drafting up. It's a huge, huge draft, about ten thousand,
using about three thousand coron it. So they put about
(24:17):
ten thousand odd lambs up a thousand odd cattle, and
I think it's about ten thousand, i'd use.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I'm not sure, yees, I'll tell you what LOWI with
the price of beef at the moment, they could afford
probably to pay us some wages a thousand cattle. Imagine
imagine how much that would bring in.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I suggest that con mission check check will be fairly good.
But I did one on Palm Tale in North Canterbury
last week got two seventy for a content.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah, it is amazing you've been You've been in the
farming industry effectively all your life. And correct me if
I'm wrong. You actually started out as a stock agent.
Have you known sheep and beef to be this boyant
and you're what forty years in the business.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
No, it's fray and it looks as it's going to
remain up there for some time. You know, the lamb's good, muttons,
good beef of every description is good. And you know
it's probable numbers are going to keep it up there
for a while because demand is good. But they're not
a lot of numbers out there, are there.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
No, the only thing that's not good at the moment
is the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, well we've got where summer now, that's what thirty
thirty odd degrees here and there, thirty three or four
in the Hawk's base are set in summer.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, I know it's summer, but we've got to what
we normally do over summer, as all Black fans, and
you're closer to the action than most of us. We
do like to solve the problems for rays. If you
were picking the all blacks. What would be the one
thing you would do? There you go, you can discive
us an answer to them. We'll let you go and
have some lunch.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I reckon, if I was rad I'd try to take
more control like a ras must. And yet I think
we've got too more, too many noises coming out of
addressing shed.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
But that's just meat now, I reckon you might be
banging on that Rasi. Rassi has got that job through
till the twenty thirty one Rugby World Cup in the US.
So he's going to do four Rugby World Cups.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah, and I'll bet you when they go into the
changing shed, he says ninety nine percent of what's to
be said. Not every assistant coach have done some description.
I think that's our biggest problem, that all that book
that they come out confused. Who do we listen to
the first?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're banging on. Hey, thanks for
your timement and yam, I.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Just got to kick from old Joe Stanley about an
now ago to remind me that he was coming down
to Canterbury this weekend because him and I apparently are
doing a rodeo over to the West Coast. John Sturgeon's
ninety birthday.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Oh well, John Sturgeon is a great New Zealander and
he was. He was the manager of the All Blacks.
Me and you and Joe Stanley were in there.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Right, so yes, he probably vue sit in as well.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well, you would have taken a bit of looking after,
so he did bloody well there anyhow, Richard Low, and
say a load to your son. Jerkie's a great bloke
and of course he's with haslets and no doubt that
they're going to be very busy over the next few days.
That on farm sale, by the way, is tomorrow, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yes? One pm up here?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Good on you, hey, thanks for your time. Really appreciate it, Jamie.
Right there we go, Richard Low. That's it. That's handy
calling in a favor from the old man, isn't it right?
We're running behind time. Michelle is chomping at the bit
to talk about the countdown to Christmas. This is a
great prize. It's from Agritrade. We've got some drench which
(27:38):
not all of you can use, but we've also got
some other stuff to go with it. So thank you
to Agritrade. We will tell you about that We've also
got to catch up with Todd Charteris before the end
of there. That latest Rabobank Farmer confidence survey is out.
It's down sentiments down from record highs. Are with dairy
farmers a bit less confident, but the sheep and beef
(27:58):
guys and the key fruit growers are humming at the moment,
So we'll talk about that with Todd Chartress before the
end of the hour. Welcome back to the Country. The
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It is I'm just laughing at Fred dag Thank you.
It is sixteen away from one. Here's Michelle with the
latest and rural news and then we'll do it. Then
we'll do our countdown to Christmas and sport. Remind me,
(29:48):
Michelle not to forget the sport.
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Speaker 11 (30:00):
And spotted over the weekend just around the corner from Parliament,
Federated Farmers have decorated one of the walls with another
digital billboard. This time they're doing a countdown at twelve
days of the Peace of Christmas. It's rather entertaining.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I wonder if Chloe makes that list for federating farmers.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
There is a little poem I might post it on
a Facebook page later that goes with it, so I'll
post it made.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
The feeds have been very creative with their billboard campaigns
in the middle of the city. So this is the
twelve days of Christmas pests.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
Is it?
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
And we've got Richardawkins on the show tomorrow to for
listen about that promotion that we're doing.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Before I forget an old that's not that's a just
Doug Lang from Hawk's Bay Today. Doug does a great
job with all the sharing. And here's my favorite sporting
story of the weekend. I won't mention my success on
the Southern Swing. That would just be gloating, Michelle. My
favorite story for the weekend is dig a Barm winning
(30:56):
the Rotorua Amp Show's Agridome Share Open. So this guy's
in his fortieth season in the open class. He's sixty
years of age and he's got a cute son called
Kyle who's autistic, and Kyle just loves dad going along
to the sharing and then he can and Kyle's hero,
I think is Jack Fagan and that's why Digger goes along.
(31:19):
But he's a champion bloke. They're a champion family. And
I just think you've been on the handpiece for forty years.
What a legend.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
That's amazing, isn't it really, especially because sharing's very physical,
as you know, Jamie, and I think someone at that
age doing it is pretty incredible.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't know how his body holds together. He's a
warrior anyhow. I should have done that from a sports news.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
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That's rare, okay, CEO Zach Brown as proud. McLaren has
overcome what he called terrifying moments late in the Formula
One season, dealing with Low's and staying united for Lando
Norris to win the Driver's Championship. Former cricket international turn
commentator Jonathan Agnew says the England team's aggressive basball style
(32:07):
is dead, saying one dimensional cricket is unsustainable. I'm with
you there too, Jonathan black Caps pace bowlers Matt Henry
and Nathan Smith, along with spinner Mitch Mitchell Santner. We'll
miss the rest of the Test series against the West Indies,
but don't panic. We've got the Lumsdon, the Lumsdon Bullet
or whatever they call him, Jacob Duffy. Gee, he's had
(32:29):
a good season. So anyhow, that's your sports news, Michelle.
On Friday, I was swining off playing golf. Hamish mckuy
did a wonderful job filling in with you. And the
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(33:15):
to Allison Young from Piroa. Today it is agri Trade
and Michelle, you've sent me a picture there you go.
So have you got the list of what they've got
up for grabs.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
I have.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Indeed, they've got an excellent tech pack, so you might
want to keep your ears open for this one. First
of all, that five let a pack of vet Med
Triple Max oral which is very useful.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
True well, is useful for the sheep, probably not for you,
but the rest of the prizes are really good for you.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
Great frond of the Christmas tree to swan exteen four
k indoor outdoor security cameras, an Amazon Echo pot which
is basically a little bit like an Alexa, and an
Eric grid connect, the Armor smart fan, which I think
needed is probably needed around the country at the moment
with the heat that we're going through. The whole prize
pack is worth over thirteen hundred dollars, so a great prize.
(33:59):
You can text into five double O nine your name
and when and where you're from.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, yeah, And it might be a good idea if
you're a farmer to enter this one. They're not much
used for the townies, but we've got stuff for you
townies later in the week. Five litre pack of vet
Med Triple max orel that'll cover all the wormis the
indoor indoor outdoor security cameras, the Eco pop which is
like an Alexa speaker, right, is that what it is?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
And then the grid connect smart fan with remote so
you can just sit on your backside and get the
fan to start.
Speaker 12 (34:32):
And thanks to Eggratrade and Vetmead for that prime.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
So remember to text win wi N that's the keyword
to get you in and your name and address to
five double nine. Who we got tomorrow.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
Tomorrow, Ashley, Here isn't it? We're looking at.
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Our silver Phone Farms Meat Meat. See you townies can
get stuck into that one tomorrow. I imagine buying a
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charteris gun boots as well as Welcome back to the country.
(35:14):
It is seven away from one. Look just having trouble
tracking Todd Charters down, Chief executive of Rabobank. We'll have
a look at that farmer confidence survey for you tomorrow.
But as Michelle alluded to, we've got three days left
after agri trade today for your countdown to Christmas. Tomorrow
it's silver Fern Farms meat Ah. Wednesday it is CBS,
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which is.
Speaker 12 (35:38):
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Thank you you guys, and what they've as you. They've
got a thousand dollars Bunnings voucher. And then on Thursday
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Dunk and wraps the country.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
But word for your guns, where would you be?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
But word for you umbers?
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Where won't you be? You'd be in the hospital or infirmary.
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Weather on the country with farmlands helping to prevent parasite
outbreaks this summer.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Okay, Phil, dunk and at late notice filling in for
Todd Chartist. We'll try and get tired on the show tomorrow. Phil,
I'm reading from the Met Service heat warnings. Heat alerts
have been issued for Gisbone and Hastings today, expecting thirty
two to thirty four degrees.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Yeah, it's it's pretty hot around many parts of the
North Island, you know, it's getting up to the upper
twenties across Auckland and Waikato. But if you look at
you know, the Gisbane area and look at Hawks Bay
Inland and northern Hawks Bay, Yeah, these areas are getting
over thirty degrees thirty two to thirty three around Gisbon
at the moment. And you know it's only just gone
past the middle of the day, so not an hour
(36:50):
or two of heating to go so hot and dry
summer like beer, but quite cooler in the South Island.
You know, seen a cooler airflow coming through on the
east sometimes when Hawks Base thirty Christchurchers too, but Christ
Shirt is only about eighteen or seventeen at the moment.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, and I know the dry parts did get a
wee bit of rain, they obviously need a bit more.
Looking at the need would drought Index map, is there
anything coming for the drier regions this week?
Speaker 9 (37:15):
Fill so no, not really apart from a few downpours
and thunderstorms that are likely around the sort of central
part of the North Island on Sunday, most of the
North Island's not really seeing rain this week. Pretty dry.
Similar story in Nelson, Marlborough and most of Canterbury. There
might be a little bit of wet weather at the
south of Canterbury, but Southland and the west coast of
(37:37):
the two areas that are likely to get the most
of the rain. And even then where you're talking about
fifteen millimeters at the most or twenty millimeters.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, I was in Southland on the weekend, Phil for
a golf thing. Well done to the Riversdale Golf Club,
the Mbicrgo Golf Club and the Harriet Golf Club. But
they're even looking for a bit of rain down there
and they're a lot better off than the east coast
of both islands.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
That's me done and dusted, will be back tomorrow and
we promise to get Todd Charteris from Rabobank on to
talk about farmer confidence. Catch you then.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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