February 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Colin Hurst, Kate Acland, Kieran McAnulty, and Mark de Lautour.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Brent the starkest of
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Tonight, I give.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It you Get to New Zealand and welcome to the Country.
I was going to say the best of the Country
that Saturday morning show, because I've got the best of
the Country on my mind. I've just gone and wiped
my run sheet for the Today's show, which is really annoying.
Operator Era. Only myself to blame, can't even blame Michelle.
(00:56):
What is the world coming to? Yes, breaking news. Andrew
Bay he's gone as a minister, putting a hand in
appropriately on a staffer after a heated discussion. Caleb Clark.
He's the last bloke I would have thought would have
been doing a runner from the police. But there you go,
so Caleb Clark, and he's an outstanding young man in
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my humble opinion. Anyhow, Radio I'm going to get onto
the show today very shortly when I track him down.
I'm going to have a Colin Hurst, vice president of
Federated Farmers Q two. National Trust's got some more government funding.
It is about time for that one. We're also going
to talk to Kate Acklin from Beef and Lamb, New
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Zealand on the split gas thing, and she's been in.
I was going to say Sydney, try San Antonio for
cattle con. Karen macinnolty it's Golden Shares Week their local
labor list MP, a great supporter of that event. Will
catch up with him. Also, Mark Delators just back from
golf food in Dubai and he's got a great Joseph
(02:01):
Parker work story to tell as well. And Phil Duncan
on the weather. Apparently if you're dry now, you're going
to get dryer. Sorry to be a bad news are
the bearer of bad news. I just thought by way
of blowing my own trumpet because I hardly ever get it.
He's right at all. Here's my sign off from Saturday
(02:22):
Morning's Best of the Country show. Okay, so this is
Saturday Morning before the Highlanders that obviously played the Blues.
The Prime Minister Christopher Luxen are wrapping the Best of
the Country. Good morning. My name's Jamie McKay. The show's
brought to you each and every Saturday morning here on
News Talks. He'd be by Rabobank. We're growing a better
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New Zealand together looking forward to the Super Rugby later today,
my Highlanders up against the Blues. I'll chuck a couple
of names at you, Finn Hurley, the young guy at fallback,
Shawn with the open side flanker, a couple of good
Southland lads. Keep your eye on them, and if you
want a really good bet at the tab take the
Highlanders unders famous last words, catch you back next Saturday.
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Two bits of music going over over the top of
one another. There look sorry about this today. He's a
bit of a dog's breakfast, to be perfectly honest. But
I got that bit right and I'm claiming vicariously a
connection with young fan Hurley, his dad Shawn, who was
a junior All Black himself, or a New Zealand cult
I think, very good rugby player, born and bred and
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Riversdale where I'm from, and his granddad Pat, very good
golfer the Riversdale Golf Club. There you go, what a
champion he is, and sewn with he even though I
said open side flank he was playing in the number
six jersey on Saturday night. But I think his true
position and where he'll become an All Black is in
the number seven Jersey, so well done. The Highland is
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absolutely brilliant there so as I said, we're going to
kick it off with Colin Hurst. Good news more funding
for the q E two Trust. But do they need
some more money and a really good work story I saw.
I'm told by Mark de Latour he's got a connection
with Joe Parker. He was almost at the fight over
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the weekend. It's all on the country.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
True girl with Colin.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I loved to hammerber with Cole Weading Ken Marna Rage
and it doesn't really Colin Hurst is a South Canterbury
arable farmer. He's also the vice president of Federated Farmers
and Colin, like me, you were chuffed to hear for
the weekend that the Q two National Trust has got
a funding increase another four point five million for the
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Trust over the next three years. It's a start, but
they could do with a lot more. What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, it's a very good start, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
The Trust does amazing work and essentially it's farmers volunteering
their land to the country really and we just think
we need to give it more money and just help
with all the volunteers volunteering that the farmers are doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I think of all the money we spend on the environment,
and I would say money spent on the Q two
National Trust is the best money you can spend for
the environment. I'm not talking through a hole on the
backside here either, because I know quite a bit about it.
I've got a Q two National Covenant on my wetland
down in Southland, and i know the support I've had
from the Q two National Trust, and i know what
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it does for that piece of land to effectively retire
it and keep its land use in perpetuity. It can
never mines of wetland, it can never be drained or
anything like that. It will stay as a wetland.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah, definitely, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Look it's it's locked and loaded forever.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Really.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's almost like a national park. In fact, we're saying
it is like a national park because it's locked and
loaded forever.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Really.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And you know, there's one hundred and just under one
hundred ninety thousand hicues across the country. Across of it
mostly farms, and it's double the size of some of
the initial parts.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Two hundred covenants, Yeah, covering nearly one hundred and ninety
thousand hectares. The interesting thing is I mean like four
point five million over three years. That's one point five
million paranum. It sounds good, but I don't think the
Q two National Trust had had an increase in pay
from the government for about a decade.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, that's right, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It hasn't gone up at all, and we all know
what inflation's done over that time.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And in fact, talking to the QW two Trust, they.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Weren't going to be able to take any more protections
on farmland. So at least it's about to keep the
lights on.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Are you going to go cap in hand to the
Prime Reproduction Select Committee and ask for some more money?
You're a bit like what's his name, Oliver, can have
some more please?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You've got a little hand out. Yeah, definitely, Jamie, definitely.
Where we've got a thirty minute slot there. In fact,
we put our earlier press release out a couple of
weeks ago and we've got an email from the Prime
Select Committee asking us to come and explain in more
detail what increased funding for the Q two Trust will mean.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So talk to me about how some of this money
is spent on these covenants. It's not only protecting the
land obviously, which goes with the covenant, but it's fencing,
it's pread out of control, it's all sorts of things.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yes, well, of course the first battle of these areas
need to be special for a start, so it's probably
either a wetland or the remnants of native bush and
that type of thing, and it's farmers have protected that
to get to the stage and then they just need
to enhance the protection. This is ensing it off from
their livestock predator control because you know, I keep hearing
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all the time that the amounts of deer and pigs
and one of these all around the place, So you
know it's protecting pain for all that to get them
out of these special areas. Yeah, that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Money well spent. Now you're a y matty cropping farmer,
arable farmer, I know you've had a challenging season. And
up the road a bit further where they do all
the seed cropping, the grass seed cropping, and mid Canterbury
they're having a bit of a bugger of the season
because they just can't get your traditional Canterbury summer weather.
The warm northwesters should I say, to dry out these
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crops for harvest.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, it's a bit of a tough old road at
the moment for some of our cropping farmers or seed
grows especially. And I was just up and messing on
the weekend, and oh, by golly that I talking to
some of the terrible farmers up there. They hadn't had
many noisters, which it was just a savior for a
lot of these crops. Is you can get the good
drying wind, but we seem to begin in the rain
every couple of days, and you know after rain you
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need to about three days good weather before the crops
dry enough to get through the combine harvester.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
So very frustrating, no doubt the.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Dairy farmers in there and the pastoral farmers will be happy.
How are arable farmers going at the moment? Are you
making a buck?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh, it's tough, Jamie. We've certainly with all the inflation
on farm inflation with fertilizer and chemicals and all that
type of thing. But we've had a bit of a
burst of increased prices just sort of early in the
new year with demands, especially from Southland. A lot of
the lot of the late some of the early crops
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have gone down there. In fact, we've delivered three loads
of big week down down into the winter the area
only last week. So certainly having a good strong dairy price,
the money all goes round, you.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Could say, the other sector.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
So that's really positive and I think we're on the
way up against on prices, so.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I'm pleased to hear it. Colin, vice president of Federated
Farmer's Biodiversity spokesperson. Good luck when you front up to
the Primary Production Select Committee and ask for some more
money for the Q two National Trust. Thank jammy great
twenty one after twelve you are with the Country, brought
to you by Brent Up Next, Kate Ackland, we get
our show on order. She's been in San Antonio, Texas recently.
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And where does beef and lamb sit regarding the domestic
methane targets as opposed to the international ones. It's all
rather confusing. We'll try and clear it up for your
next and Paris a court in or out before the
end of the hour. Also Kieren macinnulty, it's Golden Shares
week in the Wira rapper and Mark Dellator, chief executive
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of Open Country Dairy. He's been in Dubai for golf,
food and he's been rubbing shoulders with Joe Parker. What
a great work story. It's all on the country before
one o'clock. There is great ill love to have a
beer with Keen p Kevin's.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Me maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So Beef and Lamb chair Kate Ackland, mid Canterbury Farmer,
says the NDC's failure to follow a split gas approach
is a significant concern. My first question for you, Kate Ackland,
is what's NDC.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Well an NBC is it's a nationally determined contribution, So
it's essentially what we have said we're going to do
to contribute to the Paris of Court.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So you're saying there's a real opportunity here for the
government to address this split gas approach, but they've chosen
not to.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Look absolutely, we were really unhappy with the government's threaten
announcement because we thought that they missed that opportunity to
go for a split gas international target like we have
our domestic targets. So that's recognizing the different role that
methane has, the warning, the lesser impact, and also the
importance of food production.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
See I'm getting confused here. What's the difference between national
and international targets, So.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
We have our domestic targets are quite separate with those
international promises or undertakings we've made to the Paris Accord,
so they are quite separate. And New Zealand is quite
unique and that we have a split gas domestic target
but not an international one. There's other countries that have
split gas international targets and we're of the view that
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actually New Zealand should follow suit.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Okay, And you're suggesting what Uruguay is one of those countries.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So what are you aiming for? What sort of numbers
are you aiming for? Because and I do get confused
by all these split gases and targets and we're looking
at a reduction and greenhouse gases of fifty by twenty
thirty would appear to me, Kate Ackland, that it's totally unachievable.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Look, it's not going to be easy. And the fact
that New Zealand has that unique profile with the moral
methane because we're an agricultural country, it will make it difficult.
You know, we've been putting a lot of pressure domestically
on ministers to address that domestic target. We've had, We've
had the Independent Science Review, and that came out with
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a number of fifteen to twenty four percent, I think,
which is still not going to be easy, but it's
a lot better than the current targets. So I guess
what we're calling for is a bit of certainty for
our farmers, so you know, putting that pressure on to
get those domestic targets reviewed in lockdown.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Farmers are committed to the environment, I'm quoting you here again,
and absolute emissions from sheep and beef farms have reduced
by thirty five percent since nineteen ninety. Once again I
asked the obvious question, what's the problem.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Well, look, exactly, we have a great story to tell
here in New Zealand. Our absolute emissions from all of
agriculture are coming down as well, not just from sheep
and beef, So we do have a really great story
to tell here. But we need to get those targets
locked in because, as you and I both know, a
lot of the reductions to date has been through a
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loss of good productive sheep and beef country into forestry.
So you know, we need to stop that. We need
to remember we need a really profitable primary sector to
actually pay for a good future for this country.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
While we're on the subject of the Paris Accord, Kate,
and are out do we hang in there or do
we do a Trump?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Well, look, there's some pretty significant trade implications for New
Zeeland if we were to pull out of Paris. It's
tied into a lot of our free trade agreements. I
think eighty percent of the markets that we export has
some sort of reporting climate reporting requirement. So you know,
it's not as simple as in and out. And I
think you know the most important thing is that we
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get those domestic targets reviewed and locked in so that
they're at a level that recognizes the warming impact of methane.
It's different to that of long live gases.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Hey, just while I've got you, you've just recently come
back from the cattle con. I presume that's short for
Conference twenty twenty five in San Antonio, Texas. There would
have been a few ten gallon hats there, Kate, Oh, look, it.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Was fantastic, Actually it was. The Americans really don't know
how to put on a conference, but it was a
really great opportunity to just catch up with a bunch
of our counterpart organizations and get a deeper understanding of
what's happening in the States, because there is a lot
happening there right at minute.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I guess a lot of the talk at this cattle
con and San Antonio would have been around Trump and
the tariffs.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Yeah, look it was, And I guess I hadn't really
appreciated how integrated that northern North American cattle markets and
which was Mexico, Canada and the US. They almost sort
of run as one big supply chain and there's carves,
cattle and seed crossing the borders daily. So you know
the branches over there that are just as nervous at
our tariffs as we are because the implications for their
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sector would be massive too.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And let me finish by asking you for weather in
track conditions in mid Canterbury. We've been talking about some
of the issues for the arable farmers and the seed farmers.
I guess from a pastoral farmer's point of view, you're
quite happy with the rain you've had.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Look, we are having one out of the box. It's
been probably the best summer we've had in the last
ten years here. But I do feel for the arable
farmers and we do have fifty hiplers that balley sprayed
off at the moment waiting to dry out, so you know,
feeling a small amount of their pain. But generally speaking, lo,
we haven't had a grass growing season like this for years.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Isn't it funny how you spray barley off to ripen
it effectively or get it to dry out. In the
good old days, the northwester would have done it for you.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Yes, but you've seven spent much time in Mount Summer's
We get quite a lot of rain here generally.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No, I haven't. Well, I'm always up for an invitation, Katey.
Thank you very much for some of your time. Good
to chat to you, and good luck in your battle
with the government on that split gas approach.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Oh look, thanks Jamie, and you're welcome for a farm
to or anytime.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'll told you that I'll hold you. Should I say
to that, Kate? It is coming up twelve thirty on
the country up next. Got to go to him. He
is well, he's a sharing officionado. Karen MacNulty, local warra
rapper MP. It's Golden Shar's week. Rowena is going to
be there later in the week. Rarely looking forward to it.
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Before the end of the hour, Mark de Latour is
back from Dubai and if I can squeeze him in,
Phil Duncan on the weather. But I've got no good
news for you. I'm afraid when it comes to the
rain or lack thereof great to welcome this bloke back
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onto the country. We first started yearning I think in
the late two thousands when he was a tab a bookie,
should I say for the tab hear in Mconnulty Local
Labor List MP and the Wira Rapper Golden Shares Week. Karen,
I know you've had a long involvement with that event.
How excited are you?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Very excited, very excited, Jamien. Thanks for the chance to
come on and have a chat about it. I mean
that's the excitement is building. The shops around town have
got their signage up and whatnot, and the school kids
have been getting into it all week, so it's a
good feeling and mastered and the week leading up to
the years everyone's just sill of getting a vamped for it.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Put on your bookies hat. Who are you picking for
the open final?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Well it's you know, it's interesting because last year, of
course everyone was talking about Roland Smith getting his ninth title,
and then he pulled out late due to injury, which
was disappointing news for everybody. And then of course we've
got a new winner in Leon Samuels. So I mean,
all the talk so far is about four guys, Roland Smith,
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Leon Samuels and Toy Henderson, who was the favorite last
year and unfortunately dipped out. But David Buyck, as long
as he is competing, will have the full support of
wided Upper and last year he came third and the
place erupted, so everyone'll be cheering him on again. We've
never had a local winner of the Golden Years.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yep, maybe this is the year.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Tyler Henderson is kind of the form sharer going in there.
He's been cleaning up on a lot of the shows,
hasn't he.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
He has, he has, And look, I mean, you can't
discount the form, but the thing is the way that
it works and leading into this, there's so many competitions
around the country. All of these guys are clicking up wins.
They've all got that experience and it just meant it
just depends on how you go on the day. I mean,
look at David Burerck, you know he came third last
year and then turned around and won the National champs
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and so Roland Smith obviously coming back, all the talk
is about can he get the ninth, clicking up those
titles now becoming a legend of the sport himself. And
then the two newer guys won from the far North
of one from the far South. I mean you couldn't
get more of a wider spread than that.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So sorry, just I'm desperately trying to find the odds
at the tab for the Open Final. Who's the guy
from the South you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
I'm talking about Leon Samuels.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh yeah, of course Leon. Yeah, he won it last year,
didn't he.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
That's right and fully deserved to as well. It was fantastic, God,
it was such a great final last year. The place
just absolutely rupted. So I checked the TV website this
morning and they didn't have odds there, and I just
checked before you run and I see they've got odds
out on a national circuit now, so I assume later
on in the day will have odds available.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, poor ol mis Shaw's been searching desperately for the
odds and she keeps passing me a piece of paper
with Nathan Stratford on it, and I'm saying no, he's
not the final favorite for the open final. He's the
favorite for the national circuit final. And what a great share,
a great Southland, a great man, Nathan Stratford is Karen.
It's a huge boon for the wire wrapper economy, the
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Golden Shares of activity, a lot of people coming into
town and this is a bit of a dry run
for the World Champs next year.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah, well, that's what's exciting, isn't it is that the
number of competitors that have been signed up is inching
to last year, which was the highest number in a
long long time. And so I'm pretty sure that people
I've been speaking to that it's going to exceed there
and that bides really well for next year where the
competition extends by a few days and we have competitors
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from all around the world. I mean, the thing with
the Golden Shares is that does attract overseas competitors especially,
which is really encouraging to see, especially in the lower
grades and the junior grades. You know, they had a
strong Welsh contingent over the last few years and uses
are coming over and a few others as well. But
next year with the World Champs, every team that has
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competitors and sharing will essentially come and to have it
in mass and again alongside the Golden Shares were massive,
so you know this will just only get people more
excited about next year and.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Final on Saturday night in the War Memorial Hall, there's
the absolute pinnacle. But you have like the speed Share
I think on the Thursday evening and Jack Vegan's becoming
an expert in that field. That is such good spectator sport.
It is.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
But it's the thing is that people often overlook with
the speed chair is these guys have still got to
maintain quality in that as well. This isn't just about
ripping through as quick as you can. You've got to
have a certain quality standard otherwise you need to qualify it.
And so for those guys to keep the stand and
keep the quality of the war which are causes as
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a core component of how it sharing is judged, and
do it as quick as they do, it's extraordinary. I
don't know if anyone that's ever seen it, they should
make an effort, maybe look it up online or even
be a to come along if you've got a local competition.
These guys are athletes. There is no question about it.
They are the best of the best when it comes
to their sport and seeing it live there's nothing better.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How's life on the opposition benches, Kreen? It must be
a bit frustrating for you. I was in the house
the other day when it all up it over Chloe
and a lunch and Seymour and as tractor driving and
all that, and I saw Chippy in there. And sometimes
I think Chippy's a bit like a deflated balloon in
some of his media interviews. But I'll give him credit
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where credits due. In the house. He's a good performer.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
It's a good performer all over the show. I guess
it just depends on how things are cut and edited
on the news extratu. But he's as good as you
can get in terms of a debater in the house,
and he's a pretty clear communicator outside of that. And
I'm already trying to book some time and his calendar
for next year to get him along to the World Champs,
because you know, for New Zealand to host it, it's
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a big deal. I remember when it was done down
at Southland and they really put on a fantastic show.
And it was a great expose of the sport but
also the region. And now it's out to him, so
anytime he's done gets the host that it's a good deal.
So I'd love to see as many high profile people
come along next here to promote it because we're regardless
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of what side they're on the house, we've got to
raw of the golden shoes, that politics stays at the door.
We just are there to enjoy the sport and promote
the competition, and that's how we've always run well.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Nice nice pivot away from Chippy's performance back to the
Golden shares there, Karen Hey, as a bookie, what odds
would you have given the Highlanders were thirteen men at
the end of that game to get home against the Blues.
That's one of the great upsets.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
To be honest, it would have to be. I mean,
the Blues were redhot paper. It's at least a couple
of scoring things ahead of the Highlanders. But this is
always the thing that the first two rounds of a
rugby competition are always the hardest to price, and correspondingly
they're always the hardest to bet on. They'll be exactly
the same in the Heartland Championship. If anyone reckons they
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want to get a bit of value, the first couple
of weeks are always the hardest the price because you've
only got a little bit of information a couple of
preseason games and they don't really mean anything because people
try new combinations and all that sort of stuff. And
I suppose you're only asking me question, Jamie, because then
you want to go on and tell me how you'll
get with which I presume.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Took the Highlanders unders and I did throw out Finn
Earley on my Saturday morning show, so I'm claiming a
glory for that one. But I reckon the bet for
the NPC this year is the Southland Stags. You see,
they'll be captain by Shawan with you another up and
comer in New Zealand rugby. So go and put the
house on the Stags to win the NPC. If you're
an optimist a little bit, I don't put the house
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on it. Good on you, mate, Thanks for your time.
Karen macinnulty there who is mad keen no other word
for it on the Golden Shares. Very knowledgeable on sports
betting as well. Right just before we go to the break.
Michelle's giving me the glad not the glad eye. I
shouldn't say that. I'll be and Andrew Bailey myself shortly. No,
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May get Bata. Remember welcome back to the country quarter
away from one. Very shortly Mark de Latour with this
great Joseph Parker story. But before that, here's Michelle with
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That's right, Jamie. Some great sharing news from across the ditch.
A twenty seven year old from New Zealand has broken
a world record for marino sharing in the West Australian
Great Southern Region. Alexa Phillips took eighty seconds on average
per animal to reach a total of three hundred and
sixty seven sheep in eight hours. The previous female shares
record was three hundred and fifty eight. That's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's amazing. And they're not what we would call normal
crossbread sheep. These are the Wrinkley marinos. There's a lot
of sharing in those Thanks Michelle. Oh, he's the latest,
and very quickly because I'm going to run out of time.
Here's sports news for you.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
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Speaker 3 (28:11):
Although someone on the text line said, hang on a minute, Jamie.
Just to clarify, Sean with his mum was born and
bred in Taranaki, from his proud old aunties in Taranaki.
All we're claiming him in Southland. He'll do us. He's
a crack of that boy. I think he'll be in
All Black number seven. There you go, and I got
it right with Sean Hurley. Where's my sports news gone?
Have I played the sports news thing? Yes? I have right, Okay,
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it's just one of those days I shouldn't have turned up. Okay, Joseph,
We've got a good Joseph Parker story coming up for you.
But here's another one. Frustration from boxer Joseph Parker. As
rumors swell that Daniel Dubois will evade the New Zealand
heavyweight and prevent his shot at a world title, reports
are circulating the brick will now seek an undisputed bout
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against Alexander Usak, has told The Herald it doesn't feel
right you bang on there. He's dodge shoes so he
can get a big money fight against the other block.
And the law has tackled all black Caleb Clark. He's
admitted to driving dangerously and failing to stop for police.
There you go, okay, very shortly, Mark Delatour out of
Open Country. His name is Mark Delatore. He is the
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chief executive of Open Country Dairy, our second biggest dairy
company here in n Z. I was due to chat
to him on the show last week but I couldn't
because he was in Dubai at Golf Food. That's a big,
big gathering. Did you sell lots of our product to
the Middle East?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Mark?
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamen.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Look, it was a really positive show. I think fifty
sixty thousand people were going through the show every day,
so you know, for the dairy industry, it really is
becoming the major food food show event, I guess for
our industry. So Open Country had to stand there and
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we're the only New Zealand company to have as stand there.
So so that was a really good week for us.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
While we're there.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
So what was the vibe on the ground, Mark?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
It was it was it was really it actually, you know,
crossed over the last Judy t auction. So in the
first couple of days people were looking at each other
and waiting to see what that auction outcome would be.
And then following that there was a surprise. I think
that the prices held. So you know, right now, I
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think if you look at Jamie across the Middle East,
Southeast Asia, China, there's probably more dodging of these current
homework powder prices than there are of equal dodging Joe Parker.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I might come back to Joe Parker because I think
you've got a connection there. This is a great work story,
by the way. So you're saying, what there's a bit
of trepidation in the market, why because the prices are
are high?
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Effectively, yeah, I think I think you're yeah, there are
and what we're finding is no secret. Globally, inventories are
quite low. So you know, the milk powder prices have
just sort of stepped up consistently through the season, you know,
from what was a pretty low price or average price
I guess historically to you know, we're in the stratosphere
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and now and to the prices so everyone through the
year has been keeping their invutries low in anticipation of
those prices coming down. But but of course what we're
seeing now is that they haven't come down, and and
no one is prepared to really bring up the order
book and take a position at these prices. So if
you look at our order book, you know the orders
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are coming, but they're coming in in dribs and drabs.
There is no one that's really keen to take a position.
So luckily at the time of the season that you know,
milk flows are starting to come off, so we might
have timed it right, but certainly there's a you know,
the a treputation of people sort of saying I'd rather
keep my older book closed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
At the moment, you pay in four quarterly increments. So
whereas Fonterra has effectively a flat rate or a number
averaged out across the season, their number is ten dollars
at this stage. I note that in your first period
you paid eight eighty, so you're well off the pace,
but it was early in the season. Your P two
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is ten dollars one your period three, as I understand,
it's ten fifty. What do you need to get to
in P four to equal ten bucks.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
It's it's good to be you to bring that up.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Jamie, Well, I know you love the comparisons with Fonterra.
You see, I'm just keeping you honest.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Mark, Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
I guess what it will say. You know, eight eighteen
period one was a great price by the way, you know,
in terms of where the market was at that point,
everyone was pretty happy. So, like I said at the
beginning of their discussion, those prices have just carried on
coming up through the season. And as we always say
to our farmers, look we'll forecast what we think is
going to happen, but if the price is justified, we'll
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pass throng milk price. So a midpoint for P. Three,
like you says, is ten fifty, and I think for P.
Four is we're locating. As long as these prices hold,
we will be able to get to this sort of
ten sixty mark as a midpoint. So it's always some
movement around there that would take us, depend upon your
you know, we're in the country you are, that'll keep
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us well above the ten dollar mark on a weighted
average basis, But you know, depending on whether your North
Old South Island there was some variance across that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Glad to hear that. Look tell me a Joseph Parker's story.
I didn't realize this till I was chatting to you
earlier this morning, because I said to you, you're over there,
why didn't you go to the park a fight? I
just threw it out there because Winston was there. It
ends up that you and park are are mates. This
is a good work story.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah we are.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
And I tried to wing it to go from gold
food to read and I would have loved to have
been there. And I've been to his last couple of fights,
and he's a good mate. But I'm very proud of
what he did in the weekend, but unfortunately things like
board meetings and projects at work when I had to
come back Jamie so to watch it on the sofa
like everyone else. But didn't he do well? I mean,
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you know, he's now five or six fights now, and
he's right up there, number two, number three in the world,
and it should have been a title fight this weekend.
But the politics, I guess of boxing mean that he
didn't get that. But he's right up there now and
putting pressure.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
On Do you think he would have a chance against
someone like Uslick.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Well, I mean really, you know, he's a freak of
nature that would to be undisputed in cruiserweight and then
just decide to go up to heavyweight and see what
he can do and be undisputed. There is something special.
So all I will say is that Joe will never
shy away from a fight. He will take on anyone.
And that's probably the thing that Kiwis love about him.
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You know, he'll met him solf up to the best
in the world and he's not scared. So you know,
we like that in our all backs.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And we like that and Joe Pack indeed we do. Hey,
Mark de Latour out of of Open Country Dairy, thanks
for some of your time, fresh back off the plane
from Dubai and a little bit ship down, got on you, Mark, Okay.
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It you Get to New Zealand and welcome to the Country.
I was going to say the best of the Country
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the Country on my mind. I've just gone and wiped
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Operator Era. Only myself to blame, can't even blame Michelle.
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What is the world coming to? Yes, breaking news. Andrew
Bay he's gone as a minister, putting a hand in
appropriately on a staffer after a heated discussion. Caleb Clark.
He's the last bloke I would have thought would have
been doing a runner from the police. But there you go,
so Caleb Clark, and he's an outstanding young man in
(01:17):
my humble opinion. Anyhow, Radio I'm going to get onto
the show today very shortly when I track him down.
I'm going to have a Colin Hurst, vice president of
Federated Farmers Q two. National Trust's got some more government funding.
It is about time for that one. We're also going
to talk to Kate Acklin from Beef and Lamb, New
(01:39):
Zealand on the split gas thing, and she's been in.
I was going to say Sydney, try San Antonio for
cattle con. Karen macinnolty it's Golden Shares Week their local
labor list MP, a great supporter of that event. Will
catch up with him. Also, Mark Delators just back from
golf food in Dubai and he's got a great Joseph
(02:01):
Parker work story to tell as well. And Phil Duncan
on the weather. Apparently if you're dry now, you're going
to get dryer. Sorry to be a bad news are
the bearer of bad news. I just thought by way
of blowing my own trumpet because I hardly ever get it.
He's right at all. Here's my sign off from Saturday
(02:22):
Morning's Best of the Country show. Okay, so this is
Saturday Morning before the Highlanders that obviously played the Blues.
The Prime Minister Christopher Luxen are wrapping the Best of
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(02:43):
New Zealand together looking forward to the Super Rugby later today,
my Highlanders up against the Blues. I'll chuck a couple
of names at you, Finn Hurley, the young guy at fallback,
Shawn with the open side flanker, a couple of good
Southland lads. Keep your eye on them, and if you
want a really good bet at the tab take the
Highlanders unders famous last words, catch you back next Saturday.
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Two bits of music going over over the top of
one another. There look sorry about this today. He's a
bit of a dog's breakfast, to be perfectly honest. But
I got that bit right and I'm claiming vicariously a
connection with young fan Hurley, his dad Shawn, who was
a junior All Black himself, or a New Zealand cult
I think, very good rugby player, born and bred and
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Riversdale where I'm from, and his granddad Pat, very good
golfer the Riversdale Golf Club. There you go, what a
champion he is, and sewn with he even though I
said open side flank he was playing in the number
six jersey on Saturday night. But I think his true
position and where he'll become an All Black is in
the number seven Jersey, so well done. The Highland is
(03:59):
absolutely brilliant there so as I said, we're going to
kick it off with Colin Hurst. Good news more funding
for the q E two Trust. But do they need
some more money and a really good work story I saw.
I'm told by Mark de Latour he's got a connection
with Joe Parker. He was almost at the fight over
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the weekend. It's all on the country.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
True girl with Colin.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I loved to hammerber with Cole Weading Ken Marna Rage
and it doesn't really Colin Hurst is a South Canterbury
arable farmer. He's also the vice president of Federated Farmers
and Colin, like me, you were chuffed to hear for
the weekend that the Q two National Trust has got
a funding increase another four point five million for the
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Trust over the next three years. It's a start, but
they could do with a lot more. What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, it's a very good start, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
The Trust does amazing work and essentially it's farmers volunteering
their land to the country really and we just think
we need to give it more money and just help
with all the volunteers volunteering that the farmers are doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I think of all the money we spend on the environment,
and I would say money spent on the Q two
National Trust is the best money you can spend for
the environment. I'm not talking through a hole on the
backside here either, because I know quite a bit about it.
I've got a Q two National Covenant on my wetland
down in Southland, and i know the support I've had
from the Q two National Trust, and i know what
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it does for that piece of land to effectively retire
it and keep its land use in perpetuity. It can
never mines of wetland, it can never be drained or
anything like that. It will stay as a wetland.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah, definitely, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Look it's it's locked and loaded forever.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Really.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's almost like a national park. In fact, we're saying
it is like a national park because it's locked and
loaded forever.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Really.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And you know, there's one hundred and just under one
hundred ninety thousand hicues across the country. Across of it
mostly farms, and it's double the size of some of
the initial parts.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Two hundred covenants, Yeah, covering nearly one hundred and ninety
thousand hectares. The interesting thing is I mean like four
point five million over three years. That's one point five
million paranum. It sounds good, but I don't think the
Q two National Trust had had an increase in pay
from the government for about a decade.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, that's right, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It hasn't gone up at all, and we all know
what inflation's done over that time.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And in fact, talking to the QW two Trust, they.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Weren't going to be able to take any more protections
on farmland. So at least it's about to keep the
lights on.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Are you going to go cap in hand to the
Prime Reproduction Select Committee and ask for some more money?
You're a bit like what's his name, Oliver, can have
some more please?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You've got a little hand out. Yeah, definitely, Jamie, definitely.
Where we've got a thirty minute slot there. In fact,
we put our earlier press release out a couple of
weeks ago and we've got an email from the Prime
Select Committee asking us to come and explain in more
detail what increased funding for the Q two Trust will mean.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So talk to me about how some of this money
is spent on these covenants. It's not only protecting the
land obviously, which goes with the covenant, but it's fencing,
it's pread out of control, it's all sorts of things.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yes, well, of course the first battle of these areas
need to be special for a start, so it's probably
either a wetland or the remnants of native bush and
that type of thing, and it's farmers have protected that
to get to the stage and then they just need
to enhance the protection. This is ensing it off from
their livestock predator control because you know, I keep hearing
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all the time that the amounts of deer and pigs
and one of these all around the place, So you
know it's protecting pain for all that to get them
out of these special areas. Yeah, that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Money well spent. Now you're a y matty cropping farmer,
arable farmer, I know you've had a challenging season. And
up the road a bit further where they do all
the seed cropping, the grass seed cropping, and mid Canterbury
they're having a bit of a bugger of the season
because they just can't get your traditional Canterbury summer weather.
The warm northwesters should I say, to dry out these
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crops for harvest.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, it's a bit of a tough old road at
the moment for some of our cropping farmers or seed
grows especially. And I was just up and messing on
the weekend, and oh, by golly that I talking to
some of the terrible farmers up there. They hadn't had
many noisters, which it was just a savior for a
lot of these crops. Is you can get the good
drying wind, but we seem to begin in the rain
every couple of days, and you know after rain you
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need to about three days good weather before the crops
dry enough to get through the combine harvester.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
So very frustrating, no doubt the.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Dairy farmers in there and the pastoral farmers will be happy.
How are arable farmers going at the moment? Are you
making a buck?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh, it's tough, Jamie. We've certainly with all the inflation
on farm inflation with fertilizer and chemicals and all that
type of thing. But we've had a bit of a
burst of increased prices just sort of early in the
new year with demands, especially from Southland. A lot of
the lot of the late some of the early crops
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have gone down there. In fact, we've delivered three loads
of big week down down into the winter the area
only last week. So certainly having a good strong dairy price,
the money all goes round, you.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Could say, the other sector.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
So that's really positive and I think we're on the
way up against on prices, so.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I'm pleased to hear it. Colin, vice president of Federated
Farmer's Biodiversity spokesperson. Good luck when you front up to
the Primary Production Select Committee and ask for some more
money for the Q two National Trust. Thank jammy great
twenty one after twelve you are with the Country, brought
to you by Brent Up Next, Kate Ackland, we get
our show on order. She's been in San Antonio, Texas recently.
(10:22):
And where does beef and lamb sit regarding the domestic
methane targets as opposed to the international ones. It's all
rather confusing. We'll try and clear it up for your
next and Paris a court in or out before the
end of the hour. Also Kieren macinnulty, it's Golden Shares
week in the Wira rapper and Mark Dellator, chief executive
(10:44):
of Open Country Dairy. He's been in Dubai for golf,
food and he's been rubbing shoulders with Joe Parker. What
a great work story. It's all on the country before
one o'clock. There is great ill love to have a
beer with Keen p Kevin's.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Me maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So Beef and Lamb chair Kate Ackland, mid Canterbury Farmer,
says the NDC's failure to follow a split gas approach
is a significant concern. My first question for you, Kate Ackland,
is what's NDC.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Well an NBC is it's a nationally determined contribution, So
it's essentially what we have said we're going to do
to contribute to the Paris of Court.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So you're saying there's a real opportunity here for the
government to address this split gas approach, but they've chosen
not to.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Look absolutely, we were really unhappy with the government's threaten
announcement because we thought that they missed that opportunity to
go for a split gas international target like we have
our domestic targets. So that's recognizing the different role that
methane has, the warning, the lesser impact, and also the
importance of food production.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
See I'm getting confused here. What's the difference between national
and international targets, So.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
We have our domestic targets are quite separate with those
international promises or undertakings we've made to the Paris Accord,
so they are quite separate. And New Zealand is quite
unique and that we have a split gas domestic target
but not an international one. There's other countries that have
split gas international targets and we're of the view that
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actually New Zealand should follow suit.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Okay, And you're suggesting what Uruguay is one of those countries.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So what are you aiming for? What sort of numbers
are you aiming for? Because and I do get confused
by all these split gases and targets and we're looking
at a reduction and greenhouse gases of fifty by twenty
thirty would appear to me, Kate Ackland, that it's totally unachievable.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Look, it's not going to be easy. And the fact
that New Zealand has that unique profile with the moral
methane because we're an agricultural country, it will make it difficult.
You know, we've been putting a lot of pressure domestically
on ministers to address that domestic target. We've had, We've
had the Independent Science Review, and that came out with
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a number of fifteen to twenty four percent, I think,
which is still not going to be easy, but it's
a lot better than the current targets. So I guess
what we're calling for is a bit of certainty for
our farmers, so you know, putting that pressure on to
get those domestic targets reviewed in lockdown.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Farmers are committed to the environment, I'm quoting you here again,
and absolute emissions from sheep and beef farms have reduced
by thirty five percent since nineteen ninety. Once again I
asked the obvious question, what's the problem.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Well, look, exactly, we have a great story to tell
here in New Zealand. Our absolute emissions from all of
agriculture are coming down as well, not just from sheep
and beef, So we do have a really great story
to tell here. But we need to get those targets
locked in because, as you and I both know, a
lot of the reductions to date has been through a
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loss of good productive sheep and beef country into forestry.
So you know, we need to stop that. We need
to remember we need a really profitable primary sector to
actually pay for a good future for this country.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
While we're on the subject of the Paris Accord, Kate,
and are out do we hang in there or do
we do a Trump?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Well, look, there's some pretty significant trade implications for New
Zeeland if we were to pull out of Paris. It's
tied into a lot of our free trade agreements. I
think eighty percent of the markets that we export has
some sort of reporting climate reporting requirement. So you know,
it's not as simple as in and out. And I
think you know the most important thing is that we
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get those domestic targets reviewed and locked in so that
they're at a level that recognizes the warming impact of methane.
It's different to that of long live gases.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Hey, just while I've got you, you've just recently come
back from the cattle con. I presume that's short for
Conference twenty twenty five in San Antonio, Texas. There would
have been a few ten gallon hats there, Kate, Oh, look, it.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Was fantastic, Actually it was. The Americans really don't know
how to put on a conference, but it was a
really great opportunity to just catch up with a bunch
of our counterpart organizations and get a deeper understanding of
what's happening in the States, because there is a lot
happening there right at minute.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I guess a lot of the talk at this cattle
con and San Antonio would have been around Trump and
the tariffs.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Yeah, look it was, And I guess I hadn't really
appreciated how integrated that northern North American cattle markets and
which was Mexico, Canada and the US. They almost sort
of run as one big supply chain and there's carves,
cattle and seed crossing the borders daily. So you know
the branches over there that are just as nervous at
our tariffs as we are because the implications for their
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sector would be massive too.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And let me finish by asking you for weather in
track conditions in mid Canterbury. We've been talking about some
of the issues for the arable farmers and the seed farmers.
I guess from a pastoral farmer's point of view, you're
quite happy with the rain you've had.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Look, we are having one out of the box. It's
been probably the best summer we've had in the last
ten years here. But I do feel for the arable
farmers and we do have fifty hiplers that balley sprayed
off at the moment waiting to dry out, so you know,
feeling a small amount of their pain. But generally speaking, lo,
we haven't had a grass growing season like this for years.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Isn't it funny how you spray barley off to ripen
it effectively or get it to dry out. In the
good old days, the northwester would have done it for you.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Yes, but you've seven spent much time in Mount Summer's
We get quite a lot of rain here generally.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No, I haven't. Well, I'm always up for an invitation, Katey.
Thank you very much for some of your time. Good
to chat to you, and good luck in your battle
with the government on that split gas approach.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Oh look, thanks Jamie, and you're welcome for a farm
to or anytime.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'll told you that I'll hold you. Should I say
to that, Kate? It is coming up twelve thirty on
the country up next. Got to go to him. He
is well, he's a sharing officionado. Karen MacNulty, local warra
rapper MP. It's Golden Shar's week. Rowena is going to
be there later in the week. Rarely looking forward to it.
(17:24):
Before the end of the hour, Mark de Latour is
back from Dubai and if I can squeeze him in,
Phil Duncan on the weather. But I've got no good
news for you. I'm afraid when it comes to the
rain or lack thereof great to welcome this bloke back
(17:49):
onto the country. We first started yearning I think in
the late two thousands when he was a tab a bookie,
should I say for the tab hear in Mconnulty Local
Labor List MP and the Wira Rapper Golden Shares Week. Karen,
I know you've had a long involvement with that event.
How excited are you?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Very excited, very excited, Jamien. Thanks for the chance to
come on and have a chat about it. I mean
that's the excitement is building. The shops around town have
got their signage up and whatnot, and the school kids
have been getting into it all week, so it's a
good feeling and mastered and the week leading up to
the years everyone's just sill of getting a vamped for it.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Put on your bookies hat. Who are you picking for
the open final?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Well it's you know, it's interesting because last year, of
course everyone was talking about Roland Smith getting his ninth title,
and then he pulled out late due to injury, which
was disappointing news for everybody. And then of course we've
got a new winner in Leon Samuels. So I mean,
all the talk so far is about four guys, Roland Smith,
(18:57):
Leon Samuels and Toy Henderson, who was the favorite last
year and unfortunately dipped out. But David Buyck, as long
as he is competing, will have the full support of
wided Upper and last year he came third and the
place erupted, so everyone'll be cheering him on again. We've
never had a local winner of the Golden Years.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yep, maybe this is the year.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Tyler Henderson is kind of the form sharer going in there.
He's been cleaning up on a lot of the shows,
hasn't he.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
He has, he has, And look, I mean, you can't
discount the form, but the thing is the way that
it works and leading into this, there's so many competitions
around the country. All of these guys are clicking up wins.
They've all got that experience and it just meant it
just depends on how you go on the day. I mean,
look at David Burerck, you know he came third last
year and then turned around and won the National champs
(19:47):
and so Roland Smith obviously coming back, all the talk
is about can he get the ninth, clicking up those
titles now becoming a legend of the sport himself. And
then the two newer guys won from the far North
of one from the far South. I mean you couldn't
get more of a wider spread than that.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So sorry, just I'm desperately trying to find the odds
at the tab for the Open Final. Who's the guy
from the South you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
I'm talking about Leon Samuels.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh yeah, of course Leon. Yeah, he won it last year,
didn't he.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
That's right and fully deserved to as well. It was fantastic, God,
it was such a great final last year. The place
just absolutely rupted. So I checked the TV website this
morning and they didn't have odds there, and I just
checked before you run and I see they've got odds
out on a national circuit now, so I assume later
on in the day will have odds available.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, poor ol mis Shaw's been searching desperately for the
odds and she keeps passing me a piece of paper
with Nathan Stratford on it, and I'm saying no, he's
not the final favorite for the open final. He's the
favorite for the national circuit final. And what a great share,
a great Southland, a great man, Nathan Stratford is Karen.
It's a huge boon for the wire wrapper economy, the
(20:58):
Golden Shares of activity, a lot of people coming into
town and this is a bit of a dry run
for the World Champs next year.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah, well, that's what's exciting, isn't it is that the
number of competitors that have been signed up is inching
to last year, which was the highest number in a
long long time. And so I'm pretty sure that people
I've been speaking to that it's going to exceed there
and that bides really well for next year where the
competition extends by a few days and we have competitors
(21:27):
from all around the world. I mean, the thing with
the Golden Shares is that does attract overseas competitors especially,
which is really encouraging to see, especially in the lower
grades and the junior grades. You know, they had a
strong Welsh contingent over the last few years and uses
are coming over and a few others as well. But
next year with the World Champs, every team that has
(21:48):
competitors and sharing will essentially come and to have it
in mass and again alongside the Golden Shares were massive,
so you know this will just only get people more
excited about next year and.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Final on Saturday night in the War Memorial Hall, there's
the absolute pinnacle. But you have like the speed Share
I think on the Thursday evening and Jack Vegan's becoming
an expert in that field. That is such good spectator sport.
It is.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
But it's the thing is that people often overlook with
the speed chair is these guys have still got to
maintain quality in that as well. This isn't just about
ripping through as quick as you can. You've got to
have a certain quality standard otherwise you need to qualify it.
And so for those guys to keep the stand and
keep the quality of the war which are causes as
(22:35):
a core component of how it sharing is judged, and
do it as quick as they do, it's extraordinary. I
don't know if anyone that's ever seen it, they should
make an effort, maybe look it up online or even
be a to come along if you've got a local competition.
These guys are athletes. There is no question about it.
They are the best of the best when it comes
to their sport and seeing it live there's nothing better.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How's life on the opposition benches, Kreen? It must be
a bit frustrating for you. I was in the house
the other day when it all up it over Chloe
and a lunch and Seymour and as tractor driving and
all that, and I saw Chippy in there. And sometimes
I think Chippy's a bit like a deflated balloon in
some of his media interviews. But I'll give him credit
(23:15):
where credits due. In the house. He's a good performer.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
It's a good performer all over the show. I guess
it just depends on how things are cut and edited
on the news extratu. But he's as good as you
can get in terms of a debater in the house,
and he's a pretty clear communicator outside of that. And
I'm already trying to book some time and his calendar
for next year to get him along to the World Champs,
because you know, for New Zealand to host it, it's
(23:42):
a big deal. I remember when it was done down
at Southland and they really put on a fantastic show.
And it was a great expose of the sport but
also the region. And now it's out to him, so
anytime he's done gets the host that it's a good deal.
So I'd love to see as many high profile people
come along next here to promote it because we're regardless
(24:02):
of what side they're on the house, we've got to
raw of the golden shoes, that politics stays at the door.
We just are there to enjoy the sport and promote
the competition, and that's how we've always run well.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Nice nice pivot away from Chippy's performance back to the
Golden shares there, Karen Hey, as a bookie, what odds
would you have given the Highlanders were thirteen men at
the end of that game to get home against the Blues.
That's one of the great upsets.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
To be honest, it would have to be. I mean,
the Blues were redhot paper. It's at least a couple
of scoring things ahead of the Highlanders. But this is
always the thing that the first two rounds of a
rugby competition are always the hardest to price, and correspondingly
they're always the hardest to bet on. They'll be exactly
the same in the Heartland Championship. If anyone reckons they
(24:46):
want to get a bit of value, the first couple
of weeks are always the hardest the price because you've
only got a little bit of information a couple of
preseason games and they don't really mean anything because people
try new combinations and all that sort of stuff. And
I suppose you're only asking me question, Jamie, because then
you want to go on and tell me how you'll
get with which I presume.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Took the Highlanders unders and I did throw out Finn
Earley on my Saturday morning show, so I'm claiming a
glory for that one. But I reckon the bet for
the NPC this year is the Southland Stags. You see,
they'll be captain by Shawan with you another up and
comer in New Zealand rugby. So go and put the
house on the Stags to win the NPC. If you're
an optimist a little bit, I don't put the house
(25:28):
on it. Good on you, mate, Thanks for your time.
Karen macinnulty there who is mad keen no other word
for it on the Golden Shares. Very knowledgeable on sports
betting as well. Right just before we go to the break.
Michelle's giving me the glad not the glad eye. I
shouldn't say that. I'll be and Andrew Bailey myself shortly. No,
(25:51):
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(26:50):
sports news.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Take a side.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
May get Bata. Remember welcome back to the country quarter
away from one. Very shortly Mark de Latour with this
great Joseph Parker story. But before that, here's Michelle with
the latest and rural he is and I think she's
sticking with the sharing thing.
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Speaker 9 (27:30):
That's right, Jamie. Some great sharing news from across the ditch.
A twenty seven year old from New Zealand has broken
a world record for marino sharing in the West Australian
Great Southern Region. Alexa Phillips took eighty seconds on average
per animal to reach a total of three hundred and
sixty seven sheep in eight hours. The previous female shares
record was three hundred and fifty eight. That's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's amazing. And they're not what we would call normal
crossbread sheep. These are the Wrinkley marinos. There's a lot
of sharing in those Thanks Michelle. Oh, he's the latest,
and very quickly because I'm going to run out of time.
Here's sports news for you.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
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Speaker 3 (28:11):
Although someone on the text line said, hang on a minute, Jamie.
Just to clarify, Sean with his mum was born and
bred in Taranaki, from his proud old aunties in Taranaki.
All we're claiming him in Southland. He'll do us. He's
a crack of that boy. I think he'll be in
All Black number seven. There you go, and I got
it right with Sean Hurley. Where's my sports news gone?
Have I played the sports news thing? Yes? I have right, Okay,
(28:35):
it's just one of those days I shouldn't have turned up. Okay, Joseph,
We've got a good Joseph Parker story coming up for you.
But here's another one. Frustration from boxer Joseph Parker. As
rumors swell that Daniel Dubois will evade the New Zealand
heavyweight and prevent his shot at a world title, reports
are circulating the brick will now seek an undisputed bout
(28:57):
against Alexander Usak, has told The Herald it doesn't feel
right you bang on there. He's dodge shoes so he
can get a big money fight against the other block.
And the law has tackled all black Caleb Clark. He's
admitted to driving dangerously and failing to stop for police.
There you go, okay, very shortly, Mark Delatour out of
Open Country. His name is Mark Delatore. He is the
(29:23):
chief executive of Open Country Dairy, our second biggest dairy
company here in n Z. I was due to chat
to him on the show last week but I couldn't
because he was in Dubai at Golf Food. That's a big,
big gathering. Did you sell lots of our product to
the Middle East?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Mark?
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamen.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Look, it was a really positive show. I think fifty
sixty thousand people were going through the show every day,
so you know, for the dairy industry, it really is
becoming the major food food show event, I guess for
our industry. So Open Country had to stand there and
(30:04):
we're the only New Zealand company to have as stand there.
So so that was a really good week for us.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
While we're there.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
So what was the vibe on the ground, Mark?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
It was it was it was really it actually, you know,
crossed over the last Judy t auction. So in the
first couple of days people were looking at each other
and waiting to see what that auction outcome would be.
And then following that there was a surprise. I think
that the prices held. So you know, right now, I
(30:36):
think if you look at Jamie across the Middle East,
Southeast Asia, China, there's probably more dodging of these current
homework powder prices than there are of equal dodging Joe Parker.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I might come back to Joe Parker because I think
you've got a connection there. This is a great work story,
by the way. So you're saying, what there's a bit
of trepidation in the market, why because the prices are
are high?
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Effectively, yeah, I think I think you're yeah, there are
and what we're finding is no secret. Globally, inventories are
quite low. So you know, the milk powder prices have
just sort of stepped up consistently through the season, you know,
from what was a pretty low price or average price
I guess historically to you know, we're in the stratosphere
(31:22):
and now and to the prices so everyone through the
year has been keeping their invutries low in anticipation of
those prices coming down. But but of course what we're
seeing now is that they haven't come down, and and
no one is prepared to really bring up the order
book and take a position at these prices. So if
you look at our order book, you know the orders
(31:43):
are coming, but they're coming in in dribs and drabs.
There is no one that's really keen to take a position.
So luckily at the time of the season that you know,
milk flows are starting to come off, so we might
have timed it right, but certainly there's a you know,
the a treputation of people sort of saying I'd rather
keep my older book closed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
At the moment, you pay in four quarterly increments. So
whereas Fonterra has effectively a flat rate or a number
averaged out across the season, their number is ten dollars
at this stage. I note that in your first period
you paid eight eighty, so you're well off the pace,
but it was early in the season. Your P two
(32:25):
is ten dollars one your period three, as I understand,
it's ten fifty. What do you need to get to
in P four to equal ten bucks.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
It's it's good to be you to bring that up.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Jamie, Well, I know you love the comparisons with Fonterra.
You see, I'm just keeping you honest.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Mark, Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
I guess what it will say. You know, eight eighteen
period one was a great price by the way, you know,
in terms of where the market was at that point,
everyone was pretty happy. So, like I said at the
beginning of their discussion, those prices have just carried on
coming up through the season. And as we always say
to our farmers, look we'll forecast what we think is
going to happen, but if the price is justified, we'll
(33:05):
pass throng milk price. So a midpoint for P. Three,
like you says, is ten fifty, and I think for P.
Four is we're locating. As long as these prices hold,
we will be able to get to this sort of
ten sixty mark as a midpoint. So it's always some
movement around there that would take us, depend upon your
you know, we're in the country you are, that'll keep
(33:27):
us well above the ten dollar mark on a weighted
average basis, But you know, depending on whether your North
Old South Island there was some variance across that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Glad to hear that. Look tell me a Joseph Parker's story.
I didn't realize this till I was chatting to you
earlier this morning, because I said to you, you're over there,
why didn't you go to the park a fight? I
just threw it out there because Winston was there. It
ends up that you and park are are mates. This
is a good work story.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah we are.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
And I tried to wing it to go from gold
food to read and I would have loved to have
been there. And I've been to his last couple of fights,
and he's a good mate. But I'm very proud of
what he did in the weekend, but unfortunately things like
board meetings and projects at work when I had to
come back Jamie so to watch it on the sofa
like everyone else. But didn't he do well? I mean,
(34:16):
you know, he's now five or six fights now, and
he's right up there, number two, number three in the world,
and it should have been a title fight this weekend.
But the politics, I guess of boxing mean that he
didn't get that. But he's right up there now and
putting pressure.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
On Do you think he would have a chance against
someone like Uslick.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Well, I mean really, you know, he's a freak of
nature that would to be undisputed in cruiserweight and then
just decide to go up to heavyweight and see what
he can do and be undisputed. There is something special.
So all I will say is that Joe will never
shy away from a fight. He will take on anyone.
And that's probably the thing that Kiwis love about him.
(34:58):
You know, he'll met him solf up to the best
in the world and he's not scared. So you know,
we like that in our all backs.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And we like that and Joe Pack indeed we do. Hey,
Mark de Latour out of of Open Country Dairy, thanks
for some of your time, fresh back off the plane
from Dubai and a little bit ship down, got on you, Mark, Okay.
The Black ferns Our Wonderful Sevens women's side are playing
Fiji in the final twenty to three of this afternoon.
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