July 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Scott Barrett, Grant Lightfoot, Dr Jacqueline Rowarth, and Mark Warren.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Get a New Zealand. Good afternoon, Welcome to the Country.
It's brought to you by Brandt. I'm Jamie mckaye. This
is the Feelers Fishing for Lisa. Well, we're not going
fishing for Lisa today. We're going to go fishing with
the All Blacks Captain Scott Barrett. Waiting on hold, We're
going to announce the winner of our Kaiwaka fishing promotion.
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You and a mate fishing with the All Blacks Captain.
How good will that be? It's also Innovation Week here
on the Country, so each day this week we're going
to talk to someone with a wonderfully innovative new product
out there so many to pick from, but I thought
it was apt that we kick off with Grant Lightfoot.
He's the Southland deer farmer. He does dairy grazing as well.
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Of course he's making waves right around the world with
his edible bail wrap. Been rubbing shoulders with Prince William
and he's been to the Deadly Squat farm in the UK,
Jeremy Clarkson's farm, and we'll see how his wonderful innovation
is going. I think it's a fantastic product. He's an
interesting character. Doctor Jacqueline Row with be very very concerned
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farmers out there because finance taxonomy could be coming our
way from the Center for Sustainable Finance. A load of bollocks.
We'll have a look at that one. And it's a
bit of a day for outrage today on the Country.
Mark Quarren outspoken hawks Bay farmer up in arms and
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probably quite rightly so about the all black beanies. They're
synthetic rather than wollen. So he's decided to do something
about it. We're going to chase up that story for
you as well. Rural news and sports news at the
bottom of the air boring old Scottie Scheffler winning the
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Open Great Golfer. Not much color in them, is it though,
But got a great sportsman to kick off the show today,
Scott barrowed up next Charm. That has been a great
promotion for the past week on the Country thanks to
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the team at Kaiwaker. They of course make those storm
Force Parkers brilliant brilliant weather.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now one lucky listener and a mate are about to
reel in the ultimate adventure. Very shortly we will name
the winner of the fishing Trip for two with the
Kywalker Ambassador Scott Barrett. But Scott, good afternoon, thanks for
joining us on the country. First question for you before
we announce the winner, how's that? How's the most looked
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at calf Muscle in New Zealand at the moment here.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Jamie yea, the calf is trekking. Pretty well, I've had
two weeks of your rehab and how do we trot
around FMG last Saturday morning as a rehab run? So
it's all all going pretty well.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Hey, I'm very excited at the prospect of you locking
the scrum with Fabian Holland. Well, what a revelation that
bloke's been in Tupoo Vai, your previous locking partner being
at six. Because I've always thought we need a big
number six. I actually wanted you to play there, but
Razor obviously disagree with my with my take on it,
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but you must be wrapped with the development of those
two players.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yes, yeah, Fabian certainly had a great series with a
debut game in Dnedin and then you know, managed to
play eighty minutes for the three games within the series
and played exceptionally well. So he certainly put his hand
up and the coaches indicated that they wanted to play
two pot at six. So it certainly gives us good
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coverage for the lightout and took pose physical and like
you said, there would be a big pack of its
if you put that lock you put to go into six.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I feel sorry for maybe Paddy tuy Poloto whoever's going
to be the reserve lock, because they mightn't get a
go at all because you and Fabian might do an
eighty minute shift each. He doesn't seem to worry him.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, he certainly went pretty good in that in that series,
and I think there may be room for an extra
lock on the bench. And you've certainly seen teams around
the world do the six to two split and you know,
bring that big impact from the forward pack off the
bench in the second half, but the All Blacks haven't
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really done that, and you know, who knows, it might
be something that laser brings in the next couple of games.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well maybe we need a bomb squad to diffuse the
South African bomb squad at Eden Park. How much you're
looking forward to that game, Scott Barrett?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
You know that's going to be a huge game up there. Jamie.
You know, I think you've run sort of got that
circle in their calendar. Is probably the game of the
of the All Black season, and you know we're certainly
looking to build to that Eden Park game with a
couple of tests and Argentina coming up, and you know
it's going to be a great rugby championship.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeap, good on you. You'll be on the plane to Argentina. Hey,
just when talking about fishing, I know your brothers Bowten
and Jordie are mad keen golfers. You're not so much,
but I have seen your head a golf boy. You
can whack at three hundred meters, so you could be
a good golfer if you wanted to. Fishing's your thing.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Right, yes, yes, you can't have two hobbies like that
when you've got kids. So yeah, I chose fishing and
that's that's my thing, so get the other two love
getting around the golf course.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But yeah, how much of your fishing or love of
fishing is brought about through your old man Smiley. He's
a really keen fisherman, isn't he. And you guys live
within a well. I was going to say, drive a
length of the sea almost in your case, Scott, you're
pretty handy there at coastal Taranaki.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yes, yep. I sort of got introduced to it my granddad,
Dad's dad actually, and then you know Dad enjoys it
and older brother Cain and you live right on the
coast and Taranaki and sort of fishing good fishing spots
right on the back doorsteps. So it was always a
keen interest growing up and still isn't there.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, drum roll, Time to announce the winner. So here's
what they're going to get. One lucky listener and a
mate are about, as I said to Reel in the
ultimate Adventure. They're going to get return flights and accommodation,
a pair of legendary storm Force Parkers, get it right,
one each, and two hundred and fifty dollars cash for
any unexpected extras, although I will be feeding and watering them.
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By the way, Scott Barrett, do you know where the
fishing trip is going to be held.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Not sure at the stage, Jamie, I think yeah, it'd
be sort of up to I guess the winner where
they want to go. And yeah, also Kylewaker, so yeah,
who knows. I think it's within New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well it's your turn. You've got the name in front
of you. Who is our winner?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yeah, and the winner is Eru Brodie from the way geddos.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well done, Eru. We will be in contact with you.
You've scored yourself a fantastic trip fishing trip somewhere around
New Zealand. Scott Barrett, thank you so much for your time.
The All Blacks are looking good, looking forward to seeing
you on that plane to Argentina and can't wait for
September six as we try and to fuse the spring
Bomb squad. Going to be great.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Jeers, Thanks Jeremy, thank you Scott.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It'll be good to have him back in the All
Black jersey. Fabian Holland though, as I said to him,
what a revelation that blokes beIN. He's a monster in
every sense of the word. Just what we need to
put up against the spring Box, I would have thought.
And how good is that game going to be at
Eden Park, unbeaten there since France scored the try from
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the End of the World or the End of the
Earth and in nineteen ninety four. It's a lifetime ago
for some people, half a lifetime for me. Righty, we're
going to take a break here on the country. Up
next Grant Lightfoot. We're kicking off innovation Week here on
the country thanks to herd Eye. Will tell you more
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about them later, but Innovation Week. We've got some really
interesting people lined up to chat to this week who
were doing wonderfully innovative things and farming. We head to
Southland next on the country. What when do you got
to give?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because when you're zooms.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
In New Zealand's Rural Revolution, Innovation Week on the Country
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Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's going to be a good week on the country
because it's an innovation week brought to you by Herdeye.
I've been waiting to chat to this guy since field days.
Our paths crossed, but we didn't get time for a yarn.
You might have seen him on country calendar. You might
have seen him rubbing shoulders with Prince William at the
Groundswell Farmer Conference or Field Days in the UK. His
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name is Grant Lightfoot. He is a Ira pookie, dear
farmer and dairy graser and he has invented a non
polluting edible bail net made from jute and Grant gee,
I know that this was a long time in the making,
but you must be wrapped with the progress you've made
in the past few months.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Well, it's just it's just taken off. I can't believe it.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, you literally can't get publicity better than you got
at Groundswell with photo hand in hand on that hand
in hand around Prince William. How did you reel him in?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
He was at a I had a store with a
whole lot of other innovations there and had to bail
Someone helped me out and we got a bail made
in the UK and I took it to the show
and in the morning the grounds Will Show people come
up to me and says, well, we've got a special guest.
No one else knows about it, but it's Prince William.
And the only reason why they told me about it
because he was going to think about coming to my
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store because I was the only one from the other
side of the world that went to the show, so
it was pretty special. And they said he you here
at twelve o'clock, so I thought, oh, yeah, okay, And
then quarter to twelve I seen him walking into this tent,
so I missed him, so I thought, me being cheeky,
I went around the back of the tent and took
a card and brochure with me and here he was
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right in front of me, but he was talking to
someone else. So I got talking to this other guy,
which is one of his bouncers. He had six security
guys with him, and I got talking to him and
I told him who I was, Grant White from here
wey echo Net all the way from New Zealand. And
he says, it's actually quite funny. We've all heard about you.
I thought, wow, that's a good start. It what's two
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doors to this tent and the tent must have holded
about a thousand people in it, and he'd done his speech,
but he went out. He was going to go out
the other door. So I rushed back round to my
store and stood there and Prince William come out with
six security guys around him. And are a thousand people
following him, so I thought, and he didn't come my way.
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He done a forty five degree angle the other way
that I'm going to lose him, So me be me again.
I thought, shit, I've got to grab this brosure a card,
and I just belined it straight for him and stood
right in front of him and held my hand out
and shook his hand. And I looked in the corner
of my eye, my left eye, and these security guys
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must have been thinking, how the hell did you do that?
They were stunned, But anyway, got his attention and said, hey,
Lock just over there, about fifty meters away as my store.
I said, can you chance you coming over to have
a lot, And he says, yeah, yeah, no worries. So
we walked over together, and meanwhile the security guys will
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protecting me and him now, so it was actually quite
fun of your room was saying, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, when he got to the store, what did he say?
Was he impressed by your product? Kiwi?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
You conet very very impressed, Like now he wants to
put it through his farms. He's got over I've heard
now since doing this, he's got about one hundred thousand
acres or around England, I dare say, and he wants
to use my product on his farms.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Absolutely, And it wasn't your only brush with celebrity, because
I think you door knocked your way to Jeremy Clarkson's
Didley Squat Farm as well.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
That was another story. So I went Didley Squat Farm
in the morning back court to date there was no
one around and all that Didley Squat Farmers is just
a three bay shed with a coffee thing on the
on the other side, and that's all it was. And
I'm going, oh wow, So I there. So then I
jumped in my rented car down to the next driveway
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and knocked on the door and got this lady out
of bed and she says, I said to her, I'm
Jeremy Clarkson's Farmers and she says, oh, no, I don't know.
I'm sorry. I felt well, I thought to myself, where
you're lying. So then I jumped back into my car
again and I felt well, go up the next driveway.
And I went up the next driveway and Yearny Clarkson's farm.
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So a long story short, they are looking at putting
me on their next episode.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Explain to people who haven't heard of your product. Most
of us have now. It's effectively an edible bail netting
or net that you wrap around the hay. It's fine
for hay obviously, but it doesn't replace the outside plastic
wrapping around bailage or silage, which need to be airtight obviously.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
So I'm replacing the plastic net which is mine is
an eatable bail on it. You don't even have any
animal can eat it. You don't need have to take
it off the bill. You just chuck it straight out
in the paddock and they can eat it. Plastic net
you cannot do anything with it, you can't recycle it.
I've replaced it with an eatable bail net.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, Okay, we're having a week one or two coverage difficulties.
See a grant because I know you're in the back
blocks there down in South just before I let you go.
This product is made out of jute and people have
seen all about it. Can it be manufactured here in
New Zealand or you're going to have to take this
off shore? My understanding as you're looking at setting up
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a factory or a manufacturing base in India.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah. So it's all made and grown in India, so
New Zealand wouldn't be able to keep up the market.
And they can't go group, can't go Duke because of
the temperature here in New Zealand. It needs a warm environment.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The prototype. I think you and your partner spent months
hand knitting basically fifty meters of this bail netting. That
must have been a labor of love. Did it test
your your love with your partner?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
My patients, I didn't have much patience in there. Yeah,
it started off right, done about a couple of feet
a night, and then I couldn't be bothered doing it
in the end because it just got I didn't have
the patient, so she took over and finished it. And yeah,
we've ended up with this product now, which is amazing.
Everyone in the world is chasing it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well. I think it's a wonderful story. Thank you very
much for kicking off Innovation Week, Grant lightfoot here on
the country. It's brought to you by heard Eye. Now
all the best. We're going to keep tabs on you mate.
Good to see you Southlander leading the charge around the globe.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Thank you very much. Summage, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh thanks Grant that he just call me Jeremy.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Yeah, I think he was. Is it a compliment thoughcause
Jeremy Clark Maybe.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
He's getting me confused with Jeremy Clarkson. It's Jamie. I'm
a Southlander just like you, Grant. We'll give him the
benefit of the doubt. It sounded like Jeremy to me
some of your feedback. There's word Smith's out there wrapped
with the ball wrap story, Jeff dad joke. Good work.
How brilliant, says some Texter without their name. You don't
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need to put your name to your text. By the way,
five double nines the text number. How brilliant. I know, Grant,
but hadn't heard the story. That's legendary. It is Muz
who's a bitter and twisted man. And Hawk's Bay says
he's way better at telling stories than you, Jamie. Yeah,
he's a bit of a good storyteller, isn't he He is? Indeed?
Speaker 8 (17:04):
And also you mentioned patients with coming his wof yeh
was stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, they you know, knitting hand knitting, fifty meters of
the stuff. He obviously lost patients with the other half.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Yeah, how did you go over the weekend? Losing patients.
Program director, did you do a bit of coaching from
the back nine?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Did you just no?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well? I mean, is it unreasonable that a twelve handicapper
offers a thirty six handicapper putting advice? Michelle, I'm asking you,
would you take putting advice from me? I've played there
for fifteen years. I know the breaks on the greens.
But the program director, we were defending the Midwinter Cup.
God knows how we won it last year, and would
be fair to say the partnership unraveled quite remarkably towards
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the end of the towards the back end of the
back nine.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I have to say, have to take your advice from
you every day, and I know how it's delivered, So
cograme director, I feel for you.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Well, Michelle, dictatorships are the most effective form of leadership.
It's just that some people don't buy into it. Anyhow,
I think the marriage survived. Not one hundred percent sure
on that one. Anyhow, Congratulations to the one as they
won by the length of the straight. Well done. Okay,
we're going to take a break on the other side
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of it, Sports news. We're going to talk about a
decent golfer Scottie Scheffler. He is so good, that guy,
but he's boring. No, I mean, I mean the for
the game, because I think that you know Tiger Wards, Rory,
Phil Mickelson, Brice and to Shambeau. They're great for the game.
But anyhow, Scott he's the best by the length of
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the strait as well. So he'll be in Sports News.
You're going to talk about sharing and rural news before
the end of the hour. Our financial taxonomy from the
Center for Sustainable Finance. Looking forward to getting my teeth
into that one. And Mark Warren, you're going to enjoy
what he's got to say about the All Black Beanies.
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Welcome back to the country bang on twelve thirty. Hey,
thanks for the text. Grant has texted me back. Good
Southland farmer. Shit, sorry about your name, Jamie. It's all right, Graham.
I'm not offended, Grant, of course, I don't think you
got that joke mishout.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
No, okay, I just brushed it went over my head.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
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Speaker 4 (21:07):
And we have some sharing result news too well. Sharers
have shown numerous summers in New Zealand have struck the
first blow to the hopes of the New Zealand Shearers
TOA Henderson and Jack Fagan by winning the New Test
Series in Wales sharing Welsh Lambs at the Cosey Shears
and Casman Shear. On Saturday, Guess and Lewis and Claire
Jones beat the Wolves of New Zealand team Henderson and
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Fagan by a comfortable margin of six point one points.
So we might try and catch up with him again
at some point. I think next week.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, they've got what two to go?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Have they?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I think, so, yeah, yeah, go the what do they
call themselves, the Black.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Black Is it bat black Singlets?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think the Black Singlets.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
I think it's Black Singlets.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I always remember my old mate Peter Dunn. Hello Peter,
if you're listening, who at one stage was the chief
executive of Badminton New Zealand and he wanted to call
them the black Cocks. Oh, I remember that, but it
wasn't allowed to I thought it was good marketing. Here's
sports news for you.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
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Speaker 3 (22:09):
Scotti Scheffler has dismissed comparisons with golfing ledgend Tiger Woods.
Scheffler was imperious at the Open, winning his fourth major
by four strokes, but he says Ward's won fifteen majors
and stands alone at the top of the game. He
is a modest man. Good on your scotty, even if
you are a bit bland and boring. The Chiefs have
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confirmed that assistant John o'gibbs will take charge of the
Super Rugby franchise from Munster bound Clayton McMillan and England
will stage the next three World Test Championship cricket finals,
despite reported interests from India. I'm surprised India hasn't brought
their way into getting one of those. But Lord's is
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the Homer cricket. That's where it's got to be. Up
next to doctor Jacquelin. Jacquelin, where did I get Jacquelin
from let's try, Jacqueline Roweth, finance taxonomy be where farmers.
We're going to talk about it next.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Where gaming zoo.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Be very very worried out there, New Zealand farmers because
the Center for Sustainable Finance wants an equitable, inclusive financial
system that enables a resilient, sustainable at Rower, New Zealand.
What a load of bollocks, Jacqueline Rowath, Doctor Jacquelin Rowath,
Why should we be so concerned about finance taxonomy because
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I know I've got a lot of people chewing my
ear about it.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Yeah, and I'd be saying, let's be a fast follower.
UK dumped it last to the last week, just really
recently that UK said it's unworkable. It adds a layer
of complexity that adds no value. Move on. And unfortunately
for the Center for Sustainable Finance, their report came out
at the same time, and I think it's already dated. However,
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the well meaning they are actually when one reads the
green finance rules for New Zealand federated farmers are right, ideological, unworkable,
real harm likely, and the things that are being suggested
that agriculture actually mean our farms aren't green, even though
per unit of product we are amongst the greenest in
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the world.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh, Jacquelin, I'm sorry to interrupt here, but tell me
who the hell is the Center for Sustainable Finance? How
did they come about?
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Uh Airtira Circle which is Rob Finick and sir Rob
finis rip Baby have funded this in twenty twenty one
and it has received government support. Remember Sir Rob was
on one of Prime Minister Justinda Ardern Damesinder's think thanks
trying to get them through COVID and get some economic sustainability,
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I suppose, and there are some good, well meaning people
on it. It does receive government funding. Is involves the
banks and the major accounting type firms, and they've come
out with what they think is a great report. Honestly,
sometimes reports show you that actually you're doing really well
already and what's being suggested will add no value. And
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I think that is the case here.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Fine, hence taxonomy. Look what our banks just stick to
doing what they're meant to do, lend money and not
rip me off on my farm overdraft. Grumpy or what.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Well, I don't blame you for funding Grumpy. The issue
is always people don't realize that companies that are farming
in particular because it's so up and down, actually get
charged more interest by the banks. But what the banks
have been doing for some time is pick farmers go
through what they're trying to do. Think it's a good
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advance in terms of environmental sustainability of technologies, and they
are doing green loans already, but they are doing them
knowing the farm and the farmer and the etter system
and the goals and all of those sorts of things.
We don't need another level saying here's the taxonomy, the
framework really of how we'll evaluate your farm and property.
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We're getting all of this through our processes already. We're
doing constant as farmers in prior data so that our
processes can calculate what sort of environmental impact we're having.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
And then they reward us if we're good, and they
say you can't have the rewards if you're not so good,
and they're quinite struggling to keep up with some of
our environmental advances, So don't bring in another layer.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Absolutely, these green lines are effective effectively just being subsidized
by the great unwashed US.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Well, yeah, very positively, But then what they're not being
subsidized by is the how and type loans? The people
who do domestic houting, they get better loans than the
farmers do.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Okay, so the Brits have dropped this. What do we
need to do? I know federated farmers bless them or
on to the job. But what do the rest of
us need to jump up and down about the Center
for Sustainable Finance and their finance taxonomy.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
No?
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I think we need to just work with the government
and say not workable for these reasons. Look how far
in advance we already are, and keep going with the
doing everything we can to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in
a manner that does not threaten food production. And Paris
Agreement is our friend here.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Well.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Bryce McKenzie from ground Swell sent me a text this
morning and said, good on Jack Quillan for getting stuck
into the finance taxonomy. He's one hundred percent support of there.
But he said to me, she'll just say we've got
to stay in the Paris Agreement now. Bryce and Laurie
don't want us out, and Winston wants us out. Should
we be out?
Speaker 9 (28:02):
No, I don't know who we'd be left trading with
and Fontero has made it pretty clear that they are
already supplying the top market, same with some of the
other processes. So what would we be left with. Fonterra's
words are, if we pull out A one and two
because we're no longer in the Paris Agreement, then we're
down to one hundred and fifty or the in terms
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of markets, and that just costs more, which means less
to less returns to the farmer. So no, I'm not
in support of pulling out of the Paris Agreement. We
need to be doing our part. But the point is
that we can start. We're about to be at the
position I think.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Where we are.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
We can't reduce greenhouse gas any further without new technologies
that haven't yet been developed. And we are about to
be in the threatening of food production, which dairy isn't
quite but sheep probably is. But we need to look
at beef, which has increased a bit. So those are
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the issues. Can we actually say we've reached a plateau
in terms of food production, so we can't take any
further hits in terms of trying to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions until there are new technologies to implement, and the
banks are already poised to help with some of those
new technologies in terms of land.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yes, and I repeat your quote in a manner that
does not threaten food production. Doctor Jack Olnrower, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It is sixteen away from one the Country's brought to
you by Brent got a text and here yet Jack
Fagan won the speed shares over in Wales. He's an
expert there. Well done, Jack. Also here's another one, hi
j me. Taxonomy just another way for banks and other
shiny asses to make more money at the expense of
the farmer. You could just about call it a de
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facto emissions tax by stealth. Maybe banks should stick to
their knitting and loaning money instead of trying to make
them say else as the messiah coming to save the world.
And I don't want to be too tough on the banks,
thought I have been. I'm totally supportive of the low
interest thing for the soul of power. I think that's
really good. But when they get into dictating emission's profiles
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and all that sort of stuff, I reckon they're out
of their lane, totally out of their lane. Up next
a man who you won't Die wondering what he thinks
when it comes to New Zealand rugby selling selling synthetic
beanies instead of wall. We're heading to Hawks Bay, Mark Warren.
Next on the Country, just.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Swing it Zoos to play.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It is a day for indignant outrage today on the Country.
You've already heard about finance taxonomy. Don't start me on
that one. Now there's outraged that the All Blacks are
selling acrylic or synthetic beanies rather than woolen ones. And
someone who is right up in arms about this is
well known Hooks pay Farmer and can I call you
(31:04):
a social media star, Mark Warren, you're not backward and
coming forward expressing your views. So you and your mate
at norsewere Tim Dean, have been on this one and
are you getting some traction within the All Blacks.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Somebody said we've had more tracks here, Jamie than a
D eight caterpillar And actually came out of my good BK.
Bridget Kirk, who's a staunch Wolf supporter. Her dad was
a great mentor, Tom Aison, had a Parandale stud very
active in the wall industry. And BK was at a
test out there in the corporate box and she was
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horrified to be given an acrylic beanie and she said
to me, oh, we're going to straight away. I said, no, BK.
Waste don't want not farmers don't waste. And I said,
why don't you use as a fire starter because it's
full of oil and it'll be a cracker at that
So Bingo next minute was opposed to doing the social
media of a fire being lit with acrolic beanie and
(31:58):
it's gone. It's exploded like a bonfire.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Now, hang on, hang on, Mark, let's go back a step.
Bridget Kirk, that name rings the bell, doesn't she the
better half of the current New Zealand Rugby chairman David Kirk.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
I think you're very close to that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh well, I think I'm very close to the action.
I hope she's chewing the chairman's air.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
I think this might have been, but I won't say anything.
I could be privilege of the inside conversations. But let's
just say b K. Bridget Kirk has New Zealand wall
right in her sight for giving a promo, and she
deserves full credit. So she's going if anyone wants to
follow her Facebook, I call it Bridget Bridget Kirk's diary.
She's absolute hilarious on her posts about docking her three
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pits sheep or whatever they should be using her as
and Disney squite farm. Anyway, we'll get back on the
back on the program, don't you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Okay, so the beanies there are synthetic rather than woolen.
But I've got to be careful. I don't sound like
an absolute hypocrite here myself, because we were flat out
having away beanies at field days. I had nothing to
do with the procurement of the mark but then we
were giving them away to farmers and they were good beanies.
But one of them said, well, why aren't you giving
away woolen beanies? And I didn't know the answer, but
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I suspect I know the answer from the marketing department.
They're half the price of the woolen ones.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Yeah, there might be a little bit of that. I
had the same I had one sent to me for
Wrights was at one stage write some PG doub whatever
the other week, and I sent that back with a
very fithy email to their marketing manager and told her
his pedigree in how to do his job properly. I
had one from property brokers and a synthetic one and
to give I think it was Conrad Wilshire or pat
Porters's credit. They had a wall and one especially made
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for me and replaced it. Then I had one from Osbrey.
I think it was Osbrey about sheet measles, and to
be fair, the very good girl in there was very
apologetic and hadn't realized. Tim Dean really nailed it when
he wrote to the Rugby Union and he said, you
don't know what you don't know, and he's explained it
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a very positive term. We could be negative, but we've
got some real positive stuff going on here. And you
know a lot of people are saying absolutely all blacks abs.
It was the all Blacks were founded on the backs
of the sheep. I mean, players were sheep, farmers, wall brokers, sharers,
stock agents and they're horrified to think that, you know,
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they've been peddled synthetic products. They're not supporting the hand
that feeds them.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, my favorite all black team of all time, Mark,
and you and I are of a similar generation. The
nineteen sixty seven All Blacks to Britain and France. They
couldn't go to Ireland because of foot and mouth outbreak
and I think of Sir Brian Lahore, Sir Pine Tree meads. Yeah,
they'll be doing some assaults in their graves, the pair
of them, I reckon.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
I've said that already. What would Sir Colin and bjsay?
And I think we're also trying to get to end
kir Patrick and there would be a there would be
another line to get him to come in and have
a good busy comment. Anyway, we've coined the term bad
birdie crilic beanies and you know this has got some
huge potential. You know, it's got legs to start the
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wall revolution. Lamb and Beef have turned around, which is
great having a wall, and remember New Zealand's economy is
not flash We need that support. So yeah, I just
like to say thank you, Jamie. We just want to
ram home the message that wall make the all baby's
the best possible and we don't want the fans to
be fleeced on the process.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Okay, you make Tim Dean at norsewere he's a smart operator.
Can he make a woolen beanie that's competitive price wise
with the synthetic ones.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
I think he's working on that and it'd be a
really good interview I don't want to take the one
down of his sales, but look he's onto it, and
I mean he's brilliant, brilliant got of marketing over the weekend.
He had a little he must have made up a
woolen beanie, put a rugby ball over it and had
someone catch a conversion through the post. And I said, well,
we're trying very hard to front the conveyorson the wall.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Absolutely fantastic. Just before I let you go, because I
know you're you're outspoken on social media, Mark Warren, what
do you think of the Center for Sustainable Finance and
their equitable, inclusive financial system that enables a resilient sustainable
art row in New Zealand? Are you right behind that?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Right behind it?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
No?
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Well, then as we're right behind it's hard now, asked Jamie.
This is they do not say that we're on public radio.
Bloody ridiculous what I said on the media on this morning.
These the pointers to the committee. We need a quality
farmer on there, not any old farmer. They need to
learn the trick from an old farm dog that learn
if you bite the hand that feeds you, you don't
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get fed, and eventually you starve and they are biting
the hand that feeds them, and eventually they'll starve. But
I mean, there's the revolution coming to get rid of
these muppets and there will be no somethy to idiotic
and woken us and not starve. And that's just tough.
They've asked for it. The lucky thing is the very
good positive out of this is that they've shown their
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hands and nine certain terms and they can't say, no,
you misunderstood us. They've been crystal clear not what they're
trying to do, and they forget how food has grown.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Mark Warren, love your work. Thanks for your time today
on the Country right, Thanks very much. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant,
Well done, Mark. I think he's actually better than Jeremy
Rox What do you reckon?
Speaker 8 (37:32):
Yeah, he's got I think.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
We might drop Rooks and get Mark on more regularly.
He's got a bit more light. I mean, Jeremy Rooks
is the Scottish cheffler of No, he's not still love
you Jairs up. Next, we're going to wrap it with
some of your feedback.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The Charmer.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Wrapping the country for today. We'll be back again tomorrow.
Obviously we've got another really interesting interview coming up for
Innovation Week thanks to hurd Eye for that one. Muz
says that Grant was much better at telling stories than
I was. Michelle and I discussed this in the ad break. Muz,
I might do my John Daily golf story for you
(38:14):
on tomorrow's show, just to prove I've got some good
travel stories. We'll see you.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Then you get nothing the same catch.
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It's brought to you by Brandt. I'm Jamie mckaye. This
is the Feelers Fishing for Lisa. Well, we're not going
fishing for Lisa today. We're going to go fishing with
the All Blacks Captain Scott Barrett. Waiting on hold, We're
going to announce the winner of our Kaiwaka fishing promotion.
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You and a mate fishing with the All Blacks Captain.
How good will that be? It's also Innovation Week here
on the Country, so each day this week we're going
to talk to someone with a wonderfully innovative new product
out there so many to pick from, but I thought
it was apt that we kick off with Grant Lightfoot.
He's the Southland deer farmer. He does dairy grazing as well.
(01:27):
Of course he's making waves right around the world with
his edible bail wrap. Been rubbing shoulders with Prince William
and he's been to the Deadly Squat farm in the UK,
Jeremy Clarkson's farm, and we'll see how his wonderful innovation
is going. I think it's a fantastic product. He's an
interesting character. Doctor Jacqueline Row with be very very concerned
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farmers out there because finance taxonomy could be coming our
way from the Center for Sustainable Finance. A load of bollocks.
We'll have a look at that one. And it's a
bit of a day for outrage today on the Country.
Mark Quarren outspoken hawks Bay farmer up in arms and
(02:11):
probably quite rightly so about the all black beanies. They're
synthetic rather than wollen. So he's decided to do something
about it. We're going to chase up that story for
you as well. Rural news and sports news at the
bottom of the air boring old Scottie Scheffler winning the
(02:32):
Open Great Golfer. Not much color in them, is it though,
But got a great sportsman to kick off the show today,
Scott barrowed up next Charm. That has been a great
promotion for the past week on the Country thanks to
(02:54):
the team at Kaiwaker. They of course make those storm
Force Parkers brilliant brilliant weather.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now one lucky listener and a mate are about to
reel in the ultimate adventure. Very shortly we will name
the winner of the fishing Trip for two with the
Kywalker Ambassador Scott Barrett. But Scott, good afternoon, thanks for
joining us on the country. First question for you before
we announce the winner, how's that? How's the most looked
(03:23):
at calf Muscle in New Zealand at the moment here.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Jamie yea, the calf is trekking. Pretty well, I've had
two weeks of your rehab and how do we trot
around FMG last Saturday morning as a rehab run? So
it's all all going pretty well.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Hey, I'm very excited at the prospect of you locking
the scrum with Fabian Holland. Well, what a revelation that
bloke's been in Tupoo Vai, your previous locking partner being
at six. Because I've always thought we need a big
number six. I actually wanted you to play there, but
Razor obviously disagree with my with my take on it,
(04:01):
but you must be wrapped with the development of those
two players.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yes, yeah, Fabian certainly had a great series with a
debut game in Dnedin and then you know, managed to
play eighty minutes for the three games within the series
and played exceptionally well. So he certainly put his hand
up and the coaches indicated that they wanted to play
two pot at six. So it certainly gives us good
(04:27):
coverage for the lightout and took pose physical and like
you said, there would be a big pack of its
if you put that lock you put to go into six.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I feel sorry for maybe Paddy tuy Poloto whoever's going
to be the reserve lock, because they mightn't get a
go at all because you and Fabian might do an
eighty minute shift each. He doesn't seem to worry him.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, he certainly went pretty good in that in that series,
and I think there may be room for an extra
lock on the bench. And you've certainly seen teams around
the world do the six to two split and you know,
bring that big impact from the forward pack off the
bench in the second half, but the All Blacks haven't
(05:11):
really done that, and you know, who knows, it might
be something that laser brings in the next couple of games.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well maybe we need a bomb squad to diffuse the
South African bomb squad at Eden Park. How much you're
looking forward to that game, Scott Barrett?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
You know that's going to be a huge game up there. Jamie.
You know, I think you've run sort of got that
circle in their calendar. Is probably the game of the
of the All Black season, and you know we're certainly
looking to build to that Eden Park game with a
couple of tests and Argentina coming up, and you know
it's going to be a great rugby championship.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeap, good on you. You'll be on the plane to Argentina. Hey,
just when talking about fishing, I know your brothers Bowten
and Jordie are mad keen golfers. You're not so much,
but I have seen your head a golf boy. You
can whack at three hundred meters, so you could be
a good golfer if you wanted to. Fishing's your thing.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Right, yes, yes, you can't have two hobbies like that
when you've got kids. So yeah, I chose fishing and
that's that's my thing, so get the other two love
getting around the golf course.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But yeah, how much of your fishing or love of
fishing is brought about through your old man Smiley. He's
a really keen fisherman, isn't he. And you guys live
within a well. I was going to say, drive a
length of the sea almost in your case, Scott, you're
pretty handy there at coastal Taranaki.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yes, yep. I sort of got introduced to it my granddad,
Dad's dad actually, and then you know Dad enjoys it
and older brother Cain and you live right on the
coast and Taranaki and sort of fishing good fishing spots
right on the back doorsteps. So it was always a
keen interest growing up and still isn't there.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, drum roll, Time to announce the winner. So here's
what they're going to get. One lucky listener and a
mate are about, as I said to Reel in the
ultimate Adventure. They're going to get return flights and accommodation,
a pair of legendary storm Force Parkers, get it right,
one each, and two hundred and fifty dollars cash for
any unexpected extras, although I will be feeding and watering them.
(07:18):
By the way, Scott Barrett, do you know where the
fishing trip is going to be held.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Not sure at the stage, Jamie, I think yeah, it'd
be sort of up to I guess the winner where
they want to go. And yeah, also Kylewaker, so yeah,
who knows. I think it's within New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well it's your turn. You've got the name in front
of you. Who is our winner?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yeah, and the winner is Eru Brodie from the way geddos.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well done, Eru. We will be in contact with you.
You've scored yourself a fantastic trip fishing trip somewhere around
New Zealand. Scott Barrett, thank you so much for your time.
The All Blacks are looking good, looking forward to seeing
you on that plane to Argentina and can't wait for
September six as we try and to fuse the spring
Bomb squad. Going to be great.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Jeers, Thanks Jeremy, thank you Scott.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It'll be good to have him back in the All
Black jersey. Fabian Holland though, as I said to him,
what a revelation that blokes beIN. He's a monster in
every sense of the word. Just what we need to
put up against the spring Box, I would have thought.
And how good is that game going to be at
Eden Park, unbeaten there since France scored the try from
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the End of the World or the End of the
Earth and in nineteen ninety four. It's a lifetime ago
for some people, half a lifetime for me. Righty, we're
going to take a break here on the country. Up
next Grant Lightfoot. We're kicking off innovation Week here on
the country thanks to herd Eye. Will tell you more
(08:51):
about them later, but Innovation Week. We've got some really
interesting people lined up to chat to this week who
were doing wonderfully innovative things and farming. We head to
Southland next on the country. What when do you got
to give?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because when you're zooms.
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In New Zealand's Rural Revolution, Innovation Week on the Country
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It's going to be a good week on the country
because it's an innovation week brought to you by Herdeye.
I've been waiting to chat to this guy since field days.
Our paths crossed, but we didn't get time for a yarn.
You might have seen him on country calendar. You might
have seen him rubbing shoulders with Prince William at the
Groundswell Farmer Conference or Field Days in the UK. His
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name is Grant Lightfoot. He is a Ira pookie, dear
farmer and dairy graser and he has invented a non
polluting edible bail net made from jute and Grant gee,
I know that this was a long time in the making,
but you must be wrapped with the progress you've made
in the past few months.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Well, it's just it's just taken off. I can't believe it.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, you literally can't get publicity better than you got
at Groundswell with photo hand in hand on that hand
in hand around Prince William. How did you reel him in?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
He was at a I had a store with a
whole lot of other innovations there and had to bail
Someone helped me out and we got a bail made
in the UK and I took it to the show
and in the morning the grounds Will Show people come
up to me and says, well, we've got a special guest.
No one else knows about it, but it's Prince William.
And the only reason why they told me about it
because he was going to think about coming to my
(10:54):
store because I was the only one from the other
side of the world that went to the show, so
it was pretty special. And they said he you here
at twelve o'clock, so I thought, oh, yeah, okay, And
then quarter to twelve I seen him walking into this tent,
so I missed him, so I thought, me being cheeky,
I went around the back of the tent and took
a card and brochure with me and here he was
(11:16):
right in front of me, but he was talking to
someone else. So I got talking to this other guy,
which is one of his bouncers. He had six security
guys with him, and I got talking to him and
I told him who I was, Grant White from here
wey echo Net all the way from New Zealand. And
he says, it's actually quite funny. We've all heard about you.
I thought, wow, that's a good start. It what's two
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doors to this tent and the tent must have holded
about a thousand people in it, and he'd done his speech,
but he went out. He was going to go out
the other door. So I rushed back round to my
store and stood there and Prince William come out with
six security guys around him. And are a thousand people
following him, so I thought, and he didn't come my way.
(12:00):
He done a forty five degree angle the other way
that I'm going to lose him, So me be me again.
I thought, shit, I've got to grab this brosure a card,
and I just belined it straight for him and stood
right in front of him and held my hand out
and shook his hand. And I looked in the corner
of my eye, my left eye, and these security guys
(12:20):
must have been thinking, how the hell did you do that?
They were stunned, But anyway, got his attention and said, hey,
Lock just over there, about fifty meters away as my store.
I said, can you chance you coming over to have
a lot, And he says, yeah, yeah, no worries. So
we walked over together, and meanwhile the security guys will
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protecting me and him now, so it was actually quite
fun of your room was saying, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, when he got to the store, what did he say?
Was he impressed by your product? Kiwi?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
You conet very very impressed, Like now he wants to
put it through his farms. He's got over I've heard
now since doing this, he's got about one hundred thousand
acres or around England, I dare say, and he wants
to use my product on his farms.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Absolutely, And it wasn't your only brush with celebrity, because
I think you door knocked your way to Jeremy Clarkson's
Didley Squat Farm as well.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
That was another story. So I went Didley Squat Farm
in the morning back court to date there was no
one around and all that Didley Squat Farmers is just
a three bay shed with a coffee thing on the
on the other side, and that's all it was. And
I'm going, oh wow, So I there. So then I
jumped in my rented car down to the next driveway
(13:38):
and knocked on the door and got this lady out
of bed and she says, I said to her, I'm
Jeremy Clarkson's Farmers and she says, oh, no, I don't know.
I'm sorry. I felt well, I thought to myself, where
you're lying. So then I jumped back into my car
again and I felt well, go up the next driveway.
And I went up the next driveway and Yearny Clarkson's farm.
(14:02):
So a long story short, they are looking at putting
me on their next episode.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Explain to people who haven't heard of your product. Most
of us have now. It's effectively an edible bail netting
or net that you wrap around the hay. It's fine
for hay obviously, but it doesn't replace the outside plastic
wrapping around bailage or silage, which need to be airtight obviously.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
So I'm replacing the plastic net which is mine is
an eatable bail on it. You don't even have any
animal can eat it. You don't need have to take
it off the bill. You just chuck it straight out
in the paddock and they can eat it. Plastic net
you cannot do anything with it, you can't recycle it.
I've replaced it with an eatable bail net.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, Okay, we're having a week one or two coverage difficulties.
See a grant because I know you're in the back
blocks there down in South just before I let you go.
This product is made out of jute and people have
seen all about it. Can it be manufactured here in
New Zealand or you're going to have to take this
off shore? My understanding as you're looking at setting up
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a factory or a manufacturing base in India.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah. So it's all made and grown in India, so
New Zealand wouldn't be able to keep up the market.
And they can't go group, can't go Duke because of
the temperature here in New Zealand. It needs a warm environment.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The prototype. I think you and your partner spent months
hand knitting basically fifty meters of this bail netting. That
must have been a labor of love. Did it test
your your love with your partner?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
My patients, I didn't have much patience in there. Yeah,
it started off right, done about a couple of feet
a night, and then I couldn't be bothered doing it
in the end because it just got I didn't have
the patient, so she took over and finished it. And yeah,
we've ended up with this product now, which is amazing.
Everyone in the world is chasing it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well. I think it's a wonderful story. Thank you very
much for kicking off Innovation Week, Grant lightfoot here on
the country. It's brought to you by heard Eye. Now
all the best. We're going to keep tabs on you mate.
Good to see you Southlander leading the charge around the globe.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Thank you very much. Summage, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh thanks Grant that he just call me Jeremy.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Yeah, I think he was. Is it a compliment thoughcause
Jeremy Clark Maybe.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
He's getting me confused with Jeremy Clarkson. It's Jamie. I'm
a Southlander just like you, Grant. We'll give him the
benefit of the doubt. It sounded like Jeremy to me
some of your feedback. There's word Smith's out there wrapped
with the ball wrap story, Jeff dad joke. Good work.
How brilliant, says some Texter without their name. You don't
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need to put your name to your text. By the way,
five double nines the text number. How brilliant. I know, Grant,
but hadn't heard the story. That's legendary. It is Muz
who's a bitter and twisted man. And Hawk's Bay says
he's way better at telling stories than you, Jamie. Yeah,
he's a bit of a good storyteller, isn't he He is? Indeed?
Speaker 8 (17:04):
And also you mentioned patients with coming his wof yeh
was stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, they you know, knitting hand knitting, fifty meters of
the stuff. He obviously lost patients with the other half.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Yeah, how did you go over the weekend? Losing patients.
Program director, did you do a bit of coaching from
the back nine?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Did you just no?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well? I mean, is it unreasonable that a twelve handicapper
offers a thirty six handicapper putting advice? Michelle, I'm asking you,
would you take putting advice from me? I've played there
for fifteen years. I know the breaks on the greens.
But the program director, we were defending the Midwinter Cup.
God knows how we won it last year, and would
be fair to say the partnership unraveled quite remarkably towards
(17:48):
the end of the towards the back end of the
back nine.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I have to say, have to take your advice from
you every day, and I know how it's delivered, So
cograme director, I feel for you.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Well, Michelle, dictatorships are the most effective form of leadership.
It's just that some people don't buy into it. Anyhow,
I think the marriage survived. Not one hundred percent sure
on that one. Anyhow, Congratulations to the one as they
won by the length of the straight. Well done. Okay,
we're going to take a break on the other side
(18:21):
of it, Sports news. We're going to talk about a
decent golfer Scottie Scheffler. He is so good, that guy,
but he's boring. No, I mean, I mean the for
the game, because I think that you know Tiger Wards, Rory,
Phil Mickelson, Brice and to Shambeau. They're great for the game.
But anyhow, Scott he's the best by the length of
(18:41):
the strait as well. So he'll be in Sports News.
You're going to talk about sharing and rural news before
the end of the hour. Our financial taxonomy from the
Center for Sustainable Finance. Looking forward to getting my teeth
into that one. And Mark Warren, you're going to enjoy
what he's got to say about the All Black Beanies.
(19:05):
Welcome back to the country bang on twelve thirty. Hey,
thanks for the text. Grant has texted me back. Good
Southland farmer. Shit, sorry about your name, Jamie. It's all right, Graham.
I'm not offended, Grant, of course, I don't think you
got that joke mishout.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
No, okay, I just brushed it went over my head.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Now, I had no control over my golf playing partner yesterday.
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Speaker 4 (21:07):
And we have some sharing result news too well. Sharers
have shown numerous summers in New Zealand have struck the
first blow to the hopes of the New Zealand Shearers
TOA Henderson and Jack Fagan by winning the New Test
Series in Wales sharing Welsh Lambs at the Cosey Shears
and Casman Shear. On Saturday, Guess and Lewis and Claire
Jones beat the Wolves of New Zealand team Henderson and
(21:27):
Fagan by a comfortable margin of six point one points.
So we might try and catch up with him again
at some point. I think next week.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, they've got what two to go?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Have they?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I think, so, yeah, yeah, go the what do they
call themselves, the Black.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Black Is it bat black Singlets?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think the Black Singlets.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
I think it's Black Singlets.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I always remember my old mate Peter Dunn. Hello Peter,
if you're listening, who at one stage was the chief
executive of Badminton New Zealand and he wanted to call
them the black Cocks. Oh, I remember that, but it
wasn't allowed to I thought it was good marketing. Here's
sports news for you.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Sport with AFCO. Visit them online at AFCO dot co
dot nzed.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Scotti Scheffler has dismissed comparisons with golfing ledgend Tiger Woods.
Scheffler was imperious at the Open, winning his fourth major
by four strokes, but he says Ward's won fifteen majors
and stands alone at the top of the game. He
is a modest man. Good on your scotty, even if
you are a bit bland and boring. The Chiefs have
(22:30):
confirmed that assistant John o'gibbs will take charge of the
Super Rugby franchise from Munster bound Clayton McMillan and England
will stage the next three World Test Championship cricket finals,
despite reported interests from India. I'm surprised India hasn't brought
their way into getting one of those. But Lord's is
(22:51):
the Homer cricket. That's where it's got to be. Up
next to doctor Jacquelin. Jacquelin, where did I get Jacquelin
from let's try, Jacqueline Roweth, finance taxonomy be where farmers.
We're going to talk about it next.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Where gaming zoo.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Be very very worried out there, New Zealand farmers because
the Center for Sustainable Finance wants an equitable, inclusive financial
system that enables a resilient, sustainable at Rower, New Zealand.
What a load of bollocks, Jacqueline Rowath, Doctor Jacquelin Rowath,
Why should we be so concerned about finance taxonomy because
(23:41):
I know I've got a lot of people chewing my
ear about it.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Yeah, and I'd be saying, let's be a fast follower.
UK dumped it last to the last week, just really
recently that UK said it's unworkable. It adds a layer
of complexity that adds no value. Move on. And unfortunately
for the Center for Sustainable Finance, their report came out
at the same time, and I think it's already dated. However,
(24:07):
the well meaning they are actually when one reads the
green finance rules for New Zealand federated farmers are right, ideological, unworkable,
real harm likely, and the things that are being suggested
that agriculture actually mean our farms aren't green, even though
per unit of product we are amongst the greenest in
(24:31):
the world.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh, Jacquelin, I'm sorry to interrupt here, but tell me
who the hell is the Center for Sustainable Finance? How
did they come about?
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Uh Airtira Circle which is Rob Finick and sir Rob
finis rip Baby have funded this in twenty twenty one
and it has received government support. Remember Sir Rob was
on one of Prime Minister Justinda Ardern Damesinder's think thanks
trying to get them through COVID and get some economic sustainability,
(25:03):
I suppose, and there are some good, well meaning people
on it. It does receive government funding. Is involves the
banks and the major accounting type firms, and they've come
out with what they think is a great report. Honestly,
sometimes reports show you that actually you're doing really well
already and what's being suggested will add no value. And
(25:24):
I think that is the case here.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Fine, hence taxonomy. Look what our banks just stick to
doing what they're meant to do, lend money and not
rip me off on my farm overdraft. Grumpy or what.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Well, I don't blame you for funding Grumpy. The issue
is always people don't realize that companies that are farming
in particular because it's so up and down, actually get
charged more interest by the banks. But what the banks
have been doing for some time is pick farmers go
through what they're trying to do. Think it's a good
(25:59):
advance in terms of environmental sustainability of technologies, and they
are doing green loans already, but they are doing them
knowing the farm and the farmer and the etter system
and the goals and all of those sorts of things.
We don't need another level saying here's the taxonomy, the
framework really of how we'll evaluate your farm and property.
(26:22):
We're getting all of this through our processes already. We're
doing constant as farmers in prior data so that our
processes can calculate what sort of environmental impact we're having.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
And then they reward us if we're good, and they
say you can't have the rewards if you're not so good,
and they're quinite struggling to keep up with some of
our environmental advances, So don't bring in another layer.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Absolutely, these green lines are effective effectively just being subsidized
by the great unwashed US.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Well, yeah, very positively, But then what they're not being
subsidized by is the how and type loans? The people
who do domestic houting, they get better loans than the
farmers do.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Okay, so the Brits have dropped this. What do we
need to do? I know federated farmers bless them or
on to the job. But what do the rest of
us need to jump up and down about the Center
for Sustainable Finance and their finance taxonomy.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
No?
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I think we need to just work with the government
and say not workable for these reasons. Look how far
in advance we already are, and keep going with the
doing everything we can to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in
a manner that does not threaten food production. And Paris
Agreement is our friend here.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Well.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Bryce McKenzie from ground Swell sent me a text this
morning and said, good on Jack Quillan for getting stuck
into the finance taxonomy. He's one hundred percent support of there.
But he said to me, she'll just say we've got
to stay in the Paris Agreement now. Bryce and Laurie
don't want us out, and Winston wants us out. Should
we be out?
Speaker 9 (28:02):
No, I don't know who we'd be left trading with
and Fontero has made it pretty clear that they are
already supplying the top market, same with some of the
other processes. So what would we be left with. Fonterra's
words are, if we pull out A one and two
because we're no longer in the Paris Agreement, then we're
down to one hundred and fifty or the in terms
(28:23):
of markets, and that just costs more, which means less
to less returns to the farmer. So no, I'm not
in support of pulling out of the Paris Agreement. We
need to be doing our part. But the point is
that we can start. We're about to be at the
position I think.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Where we are.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
We can't reduce greenhouse gas any further without new technologies
that haven't yet been developed. And we are about to
be in the threatening of food production, which dairy isn't
quite but sheep probably is. But we need to look
at beef, which has increased a bit. So those are
(29:02):
the issues. Can we actually say we've reached a plateau
in terms of food production, so we can't take any
further hits in terms of trying to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions until there are new technologies to implement, and the
banks are already poised to help with some of those
new technologies in terms of land.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yes, and I repeat your quote in a manner that
does not threaten food production. Doctor Jack Olnrower, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It is sixteen away from one the Country's brought to
you by Brent got a text and here yet Jack
Fagan won the speed shares over in Wales. He's an
expert there. Well done, Jack. Also here's another one, hi
j me. Taxonomy just another way for banks and other
shiny asses to make more money at the expense of
the farmer. You could just about call it a de
(29:52):
facto emissions tax by stealth. Maybe banks should stick to
their knitting and loaning money instead of trying to make
them say else as the messiah coming to save the world.
And I don't want to be too tough on the banks,
thought I have been. I'm totally supportive of the low
interest thing for the soul of power. I think that's
really good. But when they get into dictating emission's profiles
(30:16):
and all that sort of stuff, I reckon they're out
of their lane, totally out of their lane. Up next
a man who you won't Die wondering what he thinks
when it comes to New Zealand rugby selling selling synthetic
beanies instead of wall. We're heading to Hawks Bay, Mark Warren.
Next on the Country, just.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Swing it Zoos to play.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It is a day for indignant outrage today on the Country.
You've already heard about finance taxonomy. Don't start me on
that one. Now there's outraged that the All Blacks are
selling acrylic or synthetic beanies rather than woolen ones. And
someone who is right up in arms about this is
well known Hooks pay Farmer and can I call you
(31:04):
a social media star, Mark Warren, you're not backward and
coming forward expressing your views. So you and your mate
at norsewere Tim Dean, have been on this one and
are you getting some traction within the All Blacks.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Somebody said we've had more tracks here, Jamie than a
D eight caterpillar And actually came out of my good BK.
Bridget Kirk, who's a staunch Wolf supporter. Her dad was
a great mentor, Tom Aison, had a Parandale stud very
active in the wall industry. And BK was at a
test out there in the corporate box and she was
(31:38):
horrified to be given an acrylic beanie and she said
to me, oh, we're going to straight away. I said, no, BK.
Waste don't want not farmers don't waste. And I said,
why don't you use as a fire starter because it's
full of oil and it'll be a cracker at that
So Bingo next minute was opposed to doing the social
media of a fire being lit with acrolic beanie and
(31:58):
it's gone. It's exploded like a bonfire.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Now, hang on, hang on, Mark, let's go back a step.
Bridget Kirk, that name rings the bell, doesn't she the
better half of the current New Zealand Rugby chairman David Kirk.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
I think you're very close to that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh well, I think I'm very close to the action.
I hope she's chewing the chairman's air.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
I think this might have been, but I won't say anything.
I could be privilege of the inside conversations. But let's
just say b K. Bridget Kirk has New Zealand wall
right in her sight for giving a promo, and she
deserves full credit. So she's going if anyone wants to
follow her Facebook, I call it Bridget Bridget Kirk's diary.
She's absolute hilarious on her posts about docking her three
(32:42):
pits sheep or whatever they should be using her as
and Disney squite farm. Anyway, we'll get back on the
back on the program, don't you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Okay, so the beanies there are synthetic rather than woolen.
But I've got to be careful. I don't sound like
an absolute hypocrite here myself, because we were flat out
having away beanies at field days. I had nothing to
do with the procurement of the mark but then we
were giving them away to farmers and they were good beanies.
But one of them said, well, why aren't you giving
away woolen beanies? And I didn't know the answer, but
(33:13):
I suspect I know the answer from the marketing department.
They're half the price of the woolen ones.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Yeah, there might be a little bit of that. I
had the same I had one sent to me for
Wrights was at one stage write some PG doub whatever
the other week, and I sent that back with a
very fithy email to their marketing manager and told her
his pedigree in how to do his job properly. I
had one from property brokers and a synthetic one and
to give I think it was Conrad Wilshire or pat
Porters's credit. They had a wall and one especially made
(33:41):
for me and replaced it. Then I had one from Osbrey.
I think it was Osbrey about sheet measles, and to
be fair, the very good girl in there was very
apologetic and hadn't realized. Tim Dean really nailed it when
he wrote to the Rugby Union and he said, you
don't know what you don't know, and he's explained it
(34:01):
a very positive term. We could be negative, but we've
got some real positive stuff going on here. And you
know a lot of people are saying absolutely all blacks abs.
It was the all Blacks were founded on the backs
of the sheep. I mean, players were sheep, farmers, wall brokers, sharers,
stock agents and they're horrified to think that, you know,
(34:24):
they've been peddled synthetic products. They're not supporting the hand
that feeds them.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, my favorite all black team of all time, Mark,
and you and I are of a similar generation. The
nineteen sixty seven All Blacks to Britain and France. They
couldn't go to Ireland because of foot and mouth outbreak
and I think of Sir Brian Lahore, Sir Pine Tree meads. Yeah,
they'll be doing some assaults in their graves, the pair
of them, I reckon.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
I've said that already. What would Sir Colin and bjsay?
And I think we're also trying to get to end
kir Patrick and there would be a there would be
another line to get him to come in and have
a good busy comment. Anyway, we've coined the term bad
birdie crilic beanies and you know this has got some
huge potential. You know, it's got legs to start the
(35:12):
wall revolution. Lamb and Beef have turned around, which is
great having a wall, and remember New Zealand's economy is
not flash We need that support. So yeah, I just
like to say thank you, Jamie. We just want to
ram home the message that wall make the all baby's
the best possible and we don't want the fans to
be fleeced on the process.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Okay, you make Tim Dean at norsewere he's a smart operator.
Can he make a woolen beanie that's competitive price wise
with the synthetic ones.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
I think he's working on that and it'd be a
really good interview I don't want to take the one
down of his sales, but look he's onto it, and
I mean he's brilliant, brilliant got of marketing over the weekend.
He had a little he must have made up a
woolen beanie, put a rugby ball over it and had
someone catch a conversion through the post. And I said, well,
we're trying very hard to front the conveyorson the wall.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Absolutely fantastic. Just before I let you go, because I
know you're you're outspoken on social media, Mark Warren, what
do you think of the Center for Sustainable Finance and
their equitable, inclusive financial system that enables a resilient sustainable
art row in New Zealand? Are you right behind that?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Right behind it?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
No?
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Well, then as we're right behind it's hard now, asked Jamie.
This is they do not say that we're on public radio.
Bloody ridiculous what I said on the media on this morning.
These the pointers to the committee. We need a quality
farmer on there, not any old farmer. They need to
learn the trick from an old farm dog that learn
if you bite the hand that feeds you, you don't
(36:48):
get fed, and eventually you starve and they are biting
the hand that feeds them, and eventually they'll starve. But
I mean, there's the revolution coming to get rid of
these muppets and there will be no somethy to idiotic
and woken us and not starve. And that's just tough.
They've asked for it. The lucky thing is the very
good positive out of this is that they've shown their
(37:11):
hands and nine certain terms and they can't say, no,
you misunderstood us. They've been crystal clear not what they're
trying to do, and they forget how food has grown.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Mark Warren, love your work. Thanks for your time today
on the Country right, Thanks very much. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant,
Well done, Mark. I think he's actually better than Jeremy
Rox What do you reckon?
Speaker 8 (37:32):
Yeah, he's got I think.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
We might drop Rooks and get Mark on more regularly.
He's got a bit more light. I mean, Jeremy Rooks
is the Scottish cheffler of No, he's not still love
you Jairs up. Next, we're going to wrap it with
some of your feedback.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The Charmer.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Wrapping the country for today. We'll be back again tomorrow.
Obviously we've got another really interesting interview coming up for
Innovation Week thanks to hurd Eye for that one. Muz
says that Grant was much better at telling stories than
I was. Michelle and I discussed this in the ad break. Muz,
I might do my John Daily golf story for you
(38:14):
on tomorrow's show, just to prove I've got some good
travel stories. We'll see you.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Then you get nothing the same catch.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
You're the latest from the land. It's the Country Podcast
with Jamie McGue thanks to Brent, your specialist in John
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