July 27, 2025 • 38 mins
Hamish McKay talks to Wayne Langford, Phil Duncan, Karen Morrish, and Jorja Miller.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome into the Country, Ya, whit does that song take
to Kate Bush Wuthering Heights. Hamus mckaye in for Jamie McKay.
Know how much Jamie loves his music, and I tell
you what that is one of the greatest songs. May
nineteen seventy eight. I think I was in Form two
at Appitty Primary School up there in the northern munaw
two and that song resonates, doesn't it. Do you know
where you were or what you were doing when it
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came out? But that Red Dress video version and it's
been of course Kate Bush wathering Heights weekend all around
the world. I think people have been getting the red
and whit dress is out and doing the thing to
Heathcliff and all of that outstanding. So good to have
your company on the country. I hope you had a
great weekend. Congratulations by the way to the tactics a
coming through in the Netbule. That was fantastic to see
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Liam Lawson ached from the Grand Prix at SPA Team
New Zealand. That's McLaren. Okay, let's we need to get
our heads around that and start referring to Piastrian Norris
as New Zealand is the McLaren Garatt started and remu
are Auckland. Bruce McLaren went to Meadowbank Primary School in Auckland.
It's tea New Zealand McLaren. I love it, I love it.
Warry is not so good? Ah, not so good? Hey,
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world done. Kimberly May too at the World University Games
in the fifteen hundred meters of bronze medal. Coming up
on the show later on Black Ferns and seven Star
Georgia Miller. What's her background? Where'd you get that side
step from? What's her rural Connection'd be great to talk
to Georgia ahead of the Women's Rugby World Cup. New
Zealand Apples and Pears have their big expo and conference
(01:58):
coming up. What are the challenges day face. We'll talk
to CEO Karen Morris. You'll join us. Phil Duncan from
weather Whatch. I've been spending a bit of time down
on the mantle or too lately, I've forgotten what a
frost is to be back in the mantle or two,
though I have been reminded simply beautiful brass monkeys comes
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to mind first up today though it is mister Yolo
himself way lank and of course Federated Farmers a national president.
Can I wayite?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How are you as good to be here? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Good to chat? Okay, So we've had the latest farmer
confidence survey, some some green shoots of positivity happening.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, I think it's reaffirming probably the sentiment that was
popping out during a field days and probably over a
few inter conferences and that sort of thing as well. That, yeah,
that farmer confidence has lifted and there's definitely some positivity
out there, which is just fantastic. It's great to have
the survey re affirm that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
What's driving it? I mean, we know farmgate prices across
the board and what many respects are up? What else is?
What else is helping us boost in confidence?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, well you're right, farm gates farmer gate prices always help,
but certainly a clawback and nonsman you know that really
steadying out seen to drop and dropping interest rates for
us help as well. And then you know a bit
more certainty around some of the regulation coming out both
from centroy and local government, although I will add in
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there that that local government's you know, moved up the
list and there's more of a concern for farmers than
what it's been in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, still raising their ugly heads, aren't they? The old
regulation and compliance.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well at will. I mean that's what I'm here to
help farmers fight, and that's what we're doing. It's good
to see that we're getting some good results. There was
a lot of announcements made last year in twenty twenty
five and twenty twenty six said I mean, sorry last
year twenty twenty four, I'm getting hid of myself, twenty
twenty five. We've got to you know, we've got to
get in and get some results. And so we're working
through that now. I think we're making some pretty good
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ground and that's ultimately showing through on some of these
figures as well.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, fantastic. One thing that I think must be helping
too is that I see that forty three percent of
farmers are targeting a debt reduction. I mean, that's that's
that's a real good thing too. When you can see
that you know, that old, that old you know well,
you know, reckon the head going in a downward direction. Oh,
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I think there's not too many farmers that think
it out a bit of the morning and are conscious
of their bed. They're stuck them behind their back. So
it's great to see that going down. More farmers moving
into profitability, which is fantastic. And like you say, with
the with the red meat and the dairy price is
going the way they are, that's understandable. I'm really conscious
that their airable sector isn't quite shining just as much
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as the other two. And then and so we'll be
looking at doing some work with the government around what
we can do to help them out and to get
their prices up. Typically well, they should hopefully hop follow
the red meat and the dairy you know, and the
other hopeful that the grain boys can get a bit
more out of their dairy farmers and that sort of thing.
But it is something that we're going to be conscious
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of that that sector it doesn't get left behind.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah. Absolutely. Another issue is getting up and realizing how
do you get through the day if you haven't got
the staff levels you need. Staffing difficulties. That has eased
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it has, it'll always be a constant concern. And
technically as farmers are looking at building their businesses again,
and then I say that because that's what the survey
is telling us. Hey, we've got confidence, we're wanting to invest.
There's a bit more money in the market again, and
so we're looking at what we can do with our
farming businesses. So making sure that we've got a skilled
workforce to match that is incredibly important and it's probably
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something that's gone off the dial a bit over the
last year or so and spent some pretty significant changes
in terms of the training on the ground. So so
something that's moving back up to the priori list to
make sure that you know the workflow matches, matches the
investment going in.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Himus McKay and for Jamie mcao on the country Wayne
Langord of course Federated Farmer's National President Wine you're sort
of right in the heart of it down there. Recent
weather events in your region, Nelson, what it feeds here
and seeing on the ground around the recovery and what
does the timeline look like for some farmers.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, it's been a really interesting month for us. We've
been pretty heavily involved with with our Membersticalarly and in
the mainly the Nelson Regions, couple there in Malbor and
a couple over and Golden Bay as well that have
been affected and so working with them very closely thankfully.
I mean, I'm always wanted to look for the positives.
But it is a smaller event, but that doesn't mean
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it's not affecting those farmers that have been affected, you know,
hugely as well. So we've been able to really specifically
target those farmers that have been affected and get on board.
It's fantastic of that on Saturday, you know, watching the
dozers and the diggas get to work. So that's that's
great and really good to be out to offer that
that real practical help me, you know, not just not
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just pulling stuff offenses, but actually get diggers and bulldozers
out there. And that's that's through the money that's been
donated through the Farmer's Adverst Events Trust, some of the
support from MPI and Farmlands and FMT and a few
of fear of those others that are involved here as well.
So you know, really great to have that support from
everyone that's got them behind it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And when you got me started and we old mate
LOWI a few years back on the old Yolo journey.
You only live once. It's important. I almost got it tattooed.
I haven't quite gone that far, but it certainly was
something that stuck with me, resonated with me. And of
course with carving and lambing coming up and you know,
tough weather events we've got, farmers really got to look
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after themselves, don't they, and avoid burning out at a
stressful time of the year. Nothing more important than your
own top two inches oh.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Undred percent share and as really easy to do or
get stuck and stuck in the run and stuck in
the system for what's happening.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I always say to my wife, you know, carving and landing,
that it's a marathon, not a sprint, you know, and
you've got to look you know, when you work through
a marathon, you're to look after yourself and and this
is this is no different. So make sure you've identified
you know when you're going to get tired, what you're
going to put in place to get tired. And most
important for me, it's it's just getting off farm just
a little bit, just to get your head into a
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different world and make sure you're thinking about something else
other than than you know that smell like coloss from
cows and the cars and the car feeds and everything
that comes with it. Yeah, it's really important.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic. I wa ain't always good to chat.
Thank you very much for your time and that as
Wayne Langford Federated Farmer's National President here on the country.
So your confidence level, people, how is yours? Will get
you We'll get you to send that through over the
course of the show. Actually tell us how you're going
in terms of your confidence right now? Are you up
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with those forty three three percent of targeting the debt repayment?
And do you want to follow the advice of Wayne there,
get off, clear the head, go and do something a
little bit different. This is the Country Hartless MacKaye And
for Jamie coming up where the Watchers fell. Duncan is
on the show The Country on your Monday hamss McKay
(09:30):
in for Jamie. Great to have your company trying to
check out the weather. As I mentioned, I've been down
on the manner or two a bit there and with
all due respects to my lovely Auntie Beth, occasionally it's
colder inside the outside down there with the frosts that
are happening there. Phil Duncan, how are you?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm good mate, How are you?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I can't complain. Are you? Are you the bearer of
good and different or bad news?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah? Probably bad news. I'm guessing this week after all
the lovely frosty weather we had last week, Yeah, this
week going downhill?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Okay, So where should we be looking out for this
bad going downhill weather?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So starting off, we've got wind and we've got rain.
So if we start with the wind, windy northeasterlies today
already gusting to sort of eighty kilometers an hour in
the far north and getting close to gale force around
parts of Auckland and Northland and also around Fjordland. Same
airflow going right down across the top of the country
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in the very bottom. So those are the windy areas.
It's going to move eastwards overnight tonight and across Tuesdays,
so we're going to see gusty where they're picking up
peaking tomorrow to some areas. And then that's timed with
this heavy rain which is also moving through and the
rain is slow moving so it's not necessarily a huge,
widespread area of heavy rain, but a narrow area that
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could be slow moving as it crosses New Zealand, and
so rainfall totals top of the South Island Bay have plenty.
Maybe parts of the rest of the Upper North Island
and the West Coast are the main areas where we'd
be seeing up to one hundred, one hundred and fifty
millimeters also over the next twenty four to forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
What does that mean one hundred and hundred and one
hundred and fifty milimeters. What sort of concerns does that
rise for some of those areas that have had enough
of the wet stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yes, that's getting up to about a month's worth of
rainfall falling in a day or two. Now that and
whenter that happens. But the reason why this is probably
sort of you know, making the news and people are
talking about it, is because it is about the third
time in a row that we've seen the Upper South
Island get a heavy rain event, so more possibly about
problems there and other areas that have already had rain.
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Parts of white Cutover, for example, already water logged, and
some farms have a bit of ponding on them. So
you throw in a whole lot of rain on top
of it, it just means that the waterways get bigger
and everything gets more water logs. So it's a decent
bit of rain, but hopefully it's not going right up
into that very problematic area. So it's a pain in
the neck and there could be some areas. Keep up
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to date with those mets US warnings to sort of
figure out where.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But with Phil Darget from where the watch felt historically,
has the likes of the top of the South Island
had sort of back to back dumping events like this
or was this something a bit new?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You have to look at it like New Zealand is
very very small and in the big picture of the weather.
So when you as a weather forecast to look at
the highs and the lows that come in, you zoom
right out and look at the whole southern Hemisphere from
the equator right down to Antarctica. When you look at
it that way, you realize that we're sort of a
little dot. And so it's the shape of the lows
and the highs as they pass over us, which changes
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all the time. There's sort of bubbles of air pressure
and they change every year, just like the clouds do.
And so if you get a line of low pressure
and high pressure in the right or wrong places, you
can end up getting repeat performances every few weeks until
that pattern shapes itself clear. It goes the other way
when we go into drought, and you end up with
one high after the other kind of stuck, and so
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you need something big to to mix it all up.
And we're in a neutral year this year. There's no
La Meinia, no Almino, and so for now and probably
going into August, we're going to see more of these
sorts of rain events and these sorts of lows. Hopefully
not all in the same spot though, But will.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
We get any of those beautiful, clear crisp days that
follow the frost are they sort of? Is there anything
of that in the short term after this rain.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think there will be that. It may not be
nationwide like we had last week, but there's certainly some
charts that South Island could be seeing more high pressure
coming through the very southland's been having sort of lower
rainfall than other parts of the country, and so has Fjordland,
so those areas typically get a lot of rain at
this time of year, or at least a lot of
rain events tracking near them. We're not quite seeing that
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as much in recent weeks, but there is some high
pressure returning here, but maybe not for everyone, but I
do think August is going to bring variety like July did,
so we do see some big highs coming out of Australia.
They're having a really stormy week at the moment as well,
probably their most unsettled week this year. So we're all
part of that system as well.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Right out, we'll keep a very close eye on things.
That is Phil Duncan from weather Watch here on the country.
Just wrapping that up. As Phil mentioned the narrow band
of rainfall that's going to hit the top of the
south old Carmental Bay a bloody whiteout. I take care
around those nor easterlies, gale force in the far North
and coming down towards Auckland and Field, and as well,
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coming up on the show, we're going to hear from
the CEO of New Zealand Apples and Pears, Karen Morrish.
They've got their big expo and conference. They're hoping to
do great things there and one of the challenges they
face will talk to those growers CEO that's coming up
here on the country. It is the country on your Monday.
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Hamish McKay in for JBI for a few days this week.
Great to have your company. Hope you're att a bit
sleepy today because you probably might have got up in
the night and watched our boy Liam Lawson go pretty
well over there in Belgium and the Grand Prix action.
That pretty busy sporting weekend, it was right. Let's get
into some activity here in New Zealand. Apples and Pears
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of course, promotes and represent the New Zealand pit fruit industry,
grows packers, marketers of course in our domestic and export markets.
CEO of Apples and Pears is Karen Morris. Good morning, Karen,
How are you.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Good morning, How you doing.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Nice to meet you, Yeah, good to check, good to check.
Where are you today?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I'm in Hawk's Bay, that's where we're based. But yeah,
heading down to Nelson later tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Of course we've already headed into the afternoon actually a
point of fact, but sunny Hawk's Bay, that's Calvin ar
Tramain Country, and later on we're going to be talking
to the winner of the Calvin R. Tremaine Trophy. Georgia Miller,
Rugby Plat that's coming up later in the show. But
you're based out of Nelson, that's right, Karen.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Is it based out of Hawks Bay. But we've got
expo Yeah, exbo this week, which is based on the
Nelson area.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, so tell us about the expert. What's coming up?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Oh, it's quite exciting. Actually, we've we've taken on board
a lot of feedback from our growers who've said that
they love the opportunity to network, and so this year
we're doing more of an expo field. So we've got
lots of exhibitors, we've got six short, punchy sessions, just
really maximizing the opportunity for people to mingle in network. Really.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, fantastic, that's the way to do it. Short and punchy,
lots of information and lots of networking. As you're saying,
time a year though our for our growers and everybody,
it's a good time the year to do this. Is
it a bit of a quieter time?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, the I mean the exporters are still exporting, but
from a growing perspective, this is probably the off season,
although we might deny that, but yeah, quiet a time
of the year really yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, so what do you you know to terms of
key themes, key things of discussion, What are you looking at?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
There's a fair bit on trade barriers and those, you know,
market access issues, but also market access opportunities. We've just
finished a big piece of work with KPMG looking at
a little bit of crystal ball gazing out into the
next five or so years of what market access could
look like. So there's going to be a lot around that.
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We've got a piece on water, We've got a piece
on delegations and maximizing the impacts of that, and then
finishing up with some electric sustainability work with Mike Casey.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, so oh that'll be interesting with Mike. Always interesting
with Mike Casey. Hey, just that crystal ballgazing, Can you
give us a little bit of insight into what you're
seeing sort of three four, five years down the track?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Oh? I think probably in terms of market wise, it's
a case of looking at how we do it differently.
You know, if you look back ten years, we do
business so differently than we did even years ago. So
looking forward to twenty thirty twenty thirty five, we're going
to have to change how we do it, as well
as the markets and how they behave so there's a
little bit of peace around human behavior as well as
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the actual markets themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay, so could you outline perhaps a couple of key challenges.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh, the key challenge is for us if we think
of one that's really front and center at the moment
is India and the FDA negotiations. So that's that would
be you know, a huge win if we could have
any improvements in that with a currently a fifty percent tariff,
So any improvements on that is going to help. And
really it's about piecing together the different parts of the
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industry and whose responsibility lies where to double our exports
because we're aiming to be a two billion dollar industry
by twenty thirty five.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Now, I just want to check in with the good
folk of the Tesman region. How badly affected by the
flooding have the fruit grower has been in that area?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, it's not been very nice at all. I spent
a couple of days down there last week on the ground.
And whilst it's a small amount that is effected in
terms of hectares, those that are affected are badly affected.
So it's certainly for them there is going to be
a bit of a bounce back and a rebuild that's
going to need to be done. But certainly we're working
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with hoard end Z to help to help the advocacy
in that space.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, okay, that's good to hear. Hey, what are some
of the let's say we look at some of the
areas in research and development right now in the put
fruit industry. What's happening there, What are you most excited about.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
There's a lot to do with pest and disease resistance,
so there's a lot of management that we do in
the research area for that, and also in the post
harvest as well. We've got a case that we're going
to be looking at at the expo, looking at post
harvest washers and how technology can help that pest and
disease management as well. So there's lots of things all
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coming together at once.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Really any roadblocks in that pest and disease area.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Certainly the ability to get our hands onto chemistry or
biologicals and that sort of thing is problematic, and that's
some of the work that we've been doing with the EPA,
and that's yeah, that would probably be our biggest barrier
in that space.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, because we've had this discussion recently to have me
about Baya going out and the different you know, the
difficulties facing EPA and the call to the ministry and
the ministers to get active in this particular front. Hey, Karen,
all the best for what starting thirtieth of July, not
too far away from the big conference in the.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Expo yep A couple of days time.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
They're fantastic, all the very best for that and we
look forward to some feedback at a later day. Much appreciated, Karen, Thank.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
You, Thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thanks Hamish, thank you, thank you very much. Indeed, Karen
Morris the CEO of NZ at Apples and Pears and
all the best. So then that sounds like an excellent
expo and a conference they've got coming up there. If
you haven't caught up with this news, I'm Hamus mckaye
and I'm pulling in for Jamie McKay and Michelle is
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in Dunedin. When Jamie goes away, he always sort of
rings me and says, but you know, we've been mates
a long time now and we have got very close,
even though our names are spelled differently, I'm sure we
are related, McKay and mckaye. Somehow they just managed to
put an m ac instead of an mc. Who's right?
Who's wrong? I don't know, Michelle, but he alway says,
don't do too well, mate, do a good job. But
if you was, if you were should of judging me
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out of ten performance to date, how would you go.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
I'll definitely give you a solid seven, definitely a solid
a solid B plus.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I think a B plus, you know, like that's way
better than my performance at university.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Well, I think it's a team effort, isn't it. So
I'll give us a solid B plus.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Look, I reckon we're B plus sort of stretching into
a minus territory. But I reckon, by the time we
have had Georgia Miller on the show a little later on,
I reckon, we'll be really cranky long towards the sort
of straight a, straight A.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
That's what we're aiming for, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, we're going to take what we're taking a break now.
I'm going to come back with a bit of rural
news and a bit of sport. We might have a
bit of bend around the sport actually, and the rural
News of course, absolutely. Yeah. I loving the Cape Bush too,
you but they'll run up that hill.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Kay, excellent, Okay, We'll be back with sports news and
rural news.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Next the Country on your Monday time now Michelle Rural News.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Country's world news with cop Cadets, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower Bread visit steel for dot cot
on In said for your local stockist.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, thanks, Hamish, And I'd just like to point out
this is an invite, by the way, for people to
text and their marks for us. We'd rather not know,
but someone kindly has given us a B plus Hamish.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, B plus. I'm very very happy with that. As
I say, I was a sort of a C disccasionally
C minus through my days at Massi University. So I'll
take B plus any day of the week. Hey, seas
get degrees, Yeah exactly. And we get to see the
world too when we're not studying as hard as some
others do. Yeah, there you go, absolutely see what I did. Okay.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
So in rural news, we have got some news about
Kiwi fruit. So despite the question marks over the United
States tariffs, Kiwi fruit growers have enjoyed a highly promising season.
New Zealand key we Fruit Growers and Corporated Chief executive
Colin Bond says the largest key we fruit harvest yet
was now largely complete, with more than two hundred and
fifteen million trays picked. Well, it'll be some time before
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forecasts can be made for the twenty five twenty twenty five,
twenty six crop. Bond says the industry predicted a seventeen
percent increase in total supply between twenty twenty four and
twenty twenty nine. Potential tariffs on exports to the US,
including key refruit, remain on the industry's radar, and of
course it's more news with tarifs more uncertainty this week
for kew wee businesses exporting into the US. Donald Trump's
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agreed to a new trade deal with the EU this morning,
which includes a fifteen percent tariff on EU imports to
the US. Trump's also indicated he'll raise the baseline tariff
all countries face from ten percent to fifteen percent. Christopher Luxon,
who spoke to Mike Hoskin this mornings in New Zealand,
hasn't been advised of an increase, He says they've agreed
with the US to look at things again at the
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end of the year. But they don't want New Zealand
to be any worse off than anyone else. And you
can find more Royal news at the country dot co
dot m z his Hamish was sport.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Alrighty oh, of course I have a night McLaren's oscar Piastre.
He took the check and flag ahead of his team
made Lando Norris and what I am christening Team McLaren
team New Zealand. Good to see that happening for Aris.
Charles maclaire was up to third place, eighth place for
Liam Lawson, Shane van Gisbergen. He's finished nineteenth at the
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Brickyard four one hundred Indianapolis complained of an underpowered car
and vibrations had been there. IndyCar action from Laguna Seca.
Scott Dixon has finished fifth in the latest race. Marcus
Armstrong was eighth there. Scott McLaughlin coming home in a
tenth place now Michelle. Pronunciation please of mister Pagatcha his
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first name, please Tada Pagatcha, winner of the fourth tour,
his fourth Tour de France title. Man, You've got to
have big heart and lungs to do that three thousand,
two hundred and ninety eight kilometers across the Republic over
the last twenty three days with only I think one
rest day. Well, the fun art has secured you can
be fun with that name too, has secured victory on
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the last stage. What a stage up the champsa Lise
in Paris. There, I'll never forget. The greatest stage of
any one of the greatest sporting events I've ever seen
was Greg Lemonde and Lauren Fignon in nineteen eighty nine
when they raced up there and it was seconds apart
and nouneer. This sort of like just the you know,
the gliding home for the dough and show as they
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do it these days. This was full on back then.
If you've never seen that, go on to YouTube and
find Lauren Fignon against hear did I say great American
names just escaped my mind? Anyway, That was Greg Lamond.
Good goodness Meehamers having a senior moment, and congratulations too
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to Donnah Wilkins. What Josh done with that tactics team
to get through and take the a n Z Premiership title,
paying due respect too to the influence of the late,
the wonderful Robin Broughton. Gie. I used to enjoy Robin
Broughton when I was back in my old sports newsday.
Great stuff there by the tactics. There you go, that's
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our sport.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
It is. It's fantastic, isn't it that? Did you watch
much of the Tour de France?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Love it?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
I love?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What I love is about that sort of about the
thirty minute highlight package that you can do daily, and
it's like you you go on, you followed the tour
and you get a tour of France and you know,
it's so beautifully produced. I mean all the old castles
and the farmhouses and then you get those sort of
lovely swimming pools and oh just beautiful.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's amazing. And I mean, of course Lance Armstrong, well
did he win seven? Not really, but Tarda can chase
that down. I guess over the next few years. He's
still got a lot in the tank.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yet, Yeah, I look at it. It's one of the
greatest that do you know, do you know, Michelle, I
know that you're a cyclist, very fine triathlete, very decorated
career that I have twice ridden the retro Wellington to
Auckland cycle tour with mister Stephen Cox. I have ridden
alongside Stevens and Jack Swart. Yeah, there you go. I
(27:41):
just want you just thought I might throw that in there,
just as something.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
You know, I am speechless with that name drop.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, that name of Stephen Swart. And then its greatest
bit of advice if we've got time, very quickly he
said to me. He said to me, Hamish, how do
you train? And I said, oh, data dati. He said, well,
fat trackies like you should not be doing hills. You
should ride as much flat as you can. And justin'spin
spin and you come to a hill and you'll go
up it. Great advice it was there you go, was indeed.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
And talking sport, we've got Georgia Miller next.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
The country Amos mcuy and for Jamie of course, Women's
Rugby World Cup coming up this year not too far away.
At the twenty twenty four Rugby Awards, Georgia Miller was
honored with the Calvin Artramin Memorial Player of the Year
Award ward, an award to win that is one of
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our greatest All Blacks. The thirty year history of the award.
Georgia was just the second youngest recipient of twenty, just
behind Jonah Lomu and joins us now Georgia, Hello, how
are you?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Good?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Great? Thank you? Great to have you with us here. Look,
how's this big transition? I mean, obviously we know you
from the sevens world. Now you're into the fifteens world.
It's all all going pretty well for you.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yeah, and I've really enjoyed it. A different challenge. Obviously
I'm a lot more physical, that's for sure. But yeah,
it's been really cool called to come in with the
black fans girls and you know, put my best foot
forward and hopefully help help this team in.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
The World Cup. How long have you been playing rugby
and what got you into it?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
I started when I was four and then kind of
just played since. But I grew up with two older brothers.
Mum and dad played a bit of rugby, so kind
of just naturally.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Happened Mommy and dad played it. But when you saw
a bit of rugby, who do they play for? What's
the sort of background?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Harlequins down into Menou Dad played heaps of games for
seniors and then mum played here and there when they
had a woman's team down there. But yeah, pretty rugby
loving family.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It had a bit of Harland dancing in there as well.
I mean, does that sort of help you your side step? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, I started that what I was for as well,
so kind of of all I've done them both together,
and I think there's been a lot of skills that
have transferred both ways. But probably more so my highland
dancing has helped my rugby than rugby helping the dancing.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But yeah, I imagine, Hey, what's your sort of rural connection.
Are you sort of from a farming background or from
a sort of a farming part of the world.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Nah, No, I'm from Tomorrow but in this town township,
but I had pretty pretty close connections to all my
mates had farms. So we're offen out there and just
running a muck.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah. So you can't come from a place like Timaru
and not have a connection to the land, can you.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Exactly, Yeah, exactly. Now you're following in the footsteps as
a seventh star to open side Flanka for the black
Ferns Sarah Herny, I mean she certainly proved that that
was a good path to follow. How much of an
inspiration is she Madawatwo's finest I call her.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yeah, she's been awesome, I think since joining the Sevens
and having hers as my captain and good friend along
the way. She's honest, she'll tell you what's up, but
she's honestly your biggest supporter. So really lucky to have
her in my corner and always supporting me, helping guide
me and just inspiring me with what she does.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, she's an inspiration. I was going to say to
if you come from a farming background, can you share
three hundred sheep a day like Sarah could when back
in the day when she was amazing. Mind you a brother,
her old man Allen Goss, he could share her mother
was a wonderful wool handler, and of course brother Simon.
She is about eight hundred a day. But a great family.
And you're such a cool person to be following the
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footsteps of what's the next few weeks months roll out?
Like now with the Blackfelt you got a bit of
in camp time.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Yeah, so we're in camp this week and then we
get about a week or so when we go back
home still training and then head over to England about
middle of all and then yeah, pretty much the World
Cup kicks off.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
How much study have you done of those? I mean,
if you go back to that last the World Cup
here in New Zealand and the French player misses the
kickout in front of the semi final, we make the final,
and then England are down to fourteen and we win
that last line out. I mean, it's a fine line
between pleasure and pain, isn't it. I mean it's going
to be awesome. The Canadian's very good too.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I think it's going to be a really tough World
Cup this year. And you know, heaps of teams have
had so much growth, which will be so exciting. Just
that challenge of the best players in the BOOST teams
coming up against each other, I think will be a spectacle,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Have you engaged the services of your brothers to get
yourself sort of? I guess, because you're gonna have to
take some more knocks, aren't you. It's a bit more,
as you say, a bit more constant physical playing the
fifteens and the sevens, how have you? Sort of it's
not hardened up, but how have you sort of adjusted
to take those knocks.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yeah, probably after a few years of missing those heavy,
hard knocks, just coming straight back in and getting used
to all of that again. You know, I definitely had
a rare sore body the first few weeks, but just
adjusting and then kind of using my strengths to manipulate
that as easy and as safely as I can.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah. Fantastic. Okay, So hey, George, we really look forward
to to following you. What was that moment like, just
briefly to wrap up when you were when the team
was announced. I thought they did a great job of
that and your members of the family and friends and
that there. What was that like for you?
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, it was so special, as you said, with our
family and friends there, and I guess sharing the moment
with the other thirty two players and knowing what they've
done to get into a position like this. So I
think we've got a great group to go put our best,
you know, team out their best performances out there, and
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hopefully go win this thing.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
There's a been any characters that you hadn't met before
and the team that you're getting to know and enjoying
their company.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Yeah, I guess like it's been nice having a lot
of time with the girls to get to know over
run a lot more. I haven't really seen or played
with a lot of them in a few years, so
it's nice to keep building those connections.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh fantastic, Thank you very much. That is Georgia Miller
blackfurn off to the Women's Rugby World Cup. Course has
made the move from sevens to fifteen. Will be looking
to follow her the Calvin Ar Tremaine Memorial Player of
the Year winner and looking to do great things with
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you go, hey, Michelle, there we go. This is you know,
if we had any sort of did we do any
better than a B plus for today's show in place
of the legend Jamie Mackay, how do we go?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
There is an A minus there, so there's not too bad.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I meant to.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
We can still keep naming high. We've got three more
days to you know, improve on the c our.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Feet on the ground and keep shooting for the stars.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But like Casey Kasem, you know, back in the day,
there you go, yes, okay, anything you want to add
anything else out of there from down in the Deep
South and Donner's beautiful Dunedin.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Tomorrow we might catch up with someone from Arable. Of course,
that confidence survey released Bifederaid farmers. They're not doing so well,
so we might try and catch up with someone there,
and I believe you've got someone in the line up
as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Ah, Yes, we're going to go to Pongoroa in the
central Southern Hawks Bay, Northern Wyre Rapper. I'm quite sure
that as Rebecca grees of course well award winning journalist, farmer,
you name it, she'll have a few good views on
some certain things there, So looking forward to chatting to
Becks and she can also tell us how she fell
off her horse recently. Here you go, righty, Hope. I
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think that's just about just about getting our time, isn't it.
Just wanted a quick shout out to them, my teammates
here at endzed me and the Country and tremains my
friends and fielding culture eats, strategy for dinner. Catch you
tomorrow on The Country.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome into the Country, Ya, whit does that song take
to Kate Bush Wuthering Heights. Hamus mckaye in for Jamie McKay.
Know how much Jamie loves his music, and I tell
you what that is one of the greatest songs. May
nineteen seventy eight. I think I was in Form two
at Appitty Primary School up there in the northern munaw
two and that song resonates, doesn't it. Do you know
where you were or what you were doing when it
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came out? But that Red Dress video version and it's
been of course Kate Bush wathering Heights weekend all around
the world. I think people have been getting the red
and whit dress is out and doing the thing to
Heathcliff and all of that outstanding. So good to have
your company on the country. I hope you had a
great weekend. Congratulations by the way to the tactics a
coming through in the Netbule. That was fantastic to see
(01:13):
Liam Lawson ached from the Grand Prix at SPA Team
New Zealand. That's McLaren. Okay, let's we need to get
our heads around that and start referring to Piastrian Norris
as New Zealand is the McLaren Garatt started and remu
are Auckland. Bruce McLaren went to Meadowbank Primary School in Auckland.
It's tea New Zealand McLaren. I love it, I love it.
Warry is not so good? Ah, not so good? Hey,
(01:34):
world done. Kimberly May too at the World University Games
in the fifteen hundred meters of bronze medal. Coming up
on the show later on Black Ferns and seven Star
Georgia Miller. What's her background? Where'd you get that side
step from? What's her rural Connection'd be great to talk
to Georgia ahead of the Women's Rugby World Cup. New
Zealand Apples and Pears have their big expo and conference
(01:58):
coming up. What are the challenges day face. We'll talk
to CEO Karen Morris. You'll join us. Phil Duncan from
weather Whatch. I've been spending a bit of time down
on the mantle or too lately, I've forgotten what a
frost is to be back in the mantle or two,
though I have been reminded simply beautiful brass monkeys comes
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to mind first up today though it is mister Yolo
himself way lank and of course Federated Farmers a national president.
Can I wayite?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How are you as good to be here? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Good to chat? Okay, So we've had the latest farmer
confidence survey, some some green shoots of positivity happening.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, I think it's reaffirming probably the sentiment that was
popping out during a field days and probably over a
few inter conferences and that sort of thing as well. That, yeah,
that farmer confidence has lifted and there's definitely some positivity
out there, which is just fantastic. It's great to have
the survey re affirm that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
What's driving it? I mean, we know farmgate prices across
the board and what many respects are up? What else is?
What else is helping us boost in confidence?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, well you're right, farm gates farmer gate prices always help,
but certainly a clawback and nonsman you know that really
steadying out seen to drop and dropping interest rates for
us help as well. And then you know a bit
more certainty around some of the regulation coming out both
from centroy and local government, although I will add in
(03:30):
there that that local government's you know, moved up the
list and there's more of a concern for farmers than
what it's been in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, still raising their ugly heads, aren't they? The old
regulation and compliance.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well at will. I mean that's what I'm here to
help farmers fight, and that's what we're doing. It's good
to see that we're getting some good results. There was
a lot of announcements made last year in twenty twenty
five and twenty twenty six said I mean, sorry last
year twenty twenty four, I'm getting hid of myself, twenty
twenty five. We've got to you know, we've got to
get in and get some results. And so we're working
through that now. I think we're making some pretty good
(04:01):
ground and that's ultimately showing through on some of these
figures as well.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, fantastic. One thing that I think must be helping
too is that I see that forty three percent of
farmers are targeting a debt reduction. I mean, that's that's
that's a real good thing too. When you can see
that you know, that old, that old you know well,
you know, reckon the head going in a downward direction. Oh,
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I think there's not too many farmers that think
it out a bit of the morning and are conscious
of their bed. They're stuck them behind their back. So
it's great to see that going down. More farmers moving
into profitability, which is fantastic. And like you say, with
the with the red meat and the dairy price is
going the way they are, that's understandable. I'm really conscious
that their airable sector isn't quite shining just as much
(04:49):
as the other two. And then and so we'll be
looking at doing some work with the government around what
we can do to help them out and to get
their prices up. Typically well, they should hopefully hop follow
the red meat and the dairy you know, and the
other hopeful that the grain boys can get a bit
more out of their dairy farmers and that sort of thing.
But it is something that we're going to be conscious
(05:10):
of that that sector it doesn't get left behind.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah. Absolutely. Another issue is getting up and realizing how
do you get through the day if you haven't got
the staff levels you need. Staffing difficulties. That has eased
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it has, it'll always be a constant concern. And
technically as farmers are looking at building their businesses again,
and then I say that because that's what the survey
is telling us. Hey, we've got confidence, we're wanting to invest.
There's a bit more money in the market again, and
so we're looking at what we can do with our
farming businesses. So making sure that we've got a skilled
workforce to match that is incredibly important and it's probably
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something that's gone off the dial a bit over the
last year or so and spent some pretty significant changes
in terms of the training on the ground. So so
something that's moving back up to the priori list to
make sure that you know the workflow matches, matches the
investment going in.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Himus McKay and for Jamie mcao on the country Wayne
Langord of course Federated Farmer's National President Wine you're sort
of right in the heart of it down there. Recent
weather events in your region, Nelson, what it feeds here
and seeing on the ground around the recovery and what
does the timeline look like for some farmers.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, it's been a really interesting month for us. We've
been pretty heavily involved with with our Membersticalarly and in
the mainly the Nelson Regions, couple there in Malbor and
a couple over and Golden Bay as well that have
been affected and so working with them very closely thankfully.
I mean, I'm always wanted to look for the positives.
But it is a smaller event, but that doesn't mean
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it's not affecting those farmers that have been affected, you know,
hugely as well. So we've been able to really specifically
target those farmers that have been affected and get on board.
It's fantastic of that on Saturday, you know, watching the
dozers and the diggas get to work. So that's that's
great and really good to be out to offer that
that real practical help me, you know, not just not
(07:09):
just pulling stuff offenses, but actually get diggers and bulldozers
out there. And that's that's through the money that's been
donated through the Farmer's Adverst Events Trust, some of the
support from MPI and Farmlands and FMT and a few
of fear of those others that are involved here as well.
So you know, really great to have that support from
everyone that's got them behind it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And when you got me started and we old mate
LOWI a few years back on the old Yolo journey.
You only live once. It's important. I almost got it tattooed.
I haven't quite gone that far, but it certainly was
something that stuck with me, resonated with me. And of
course with carving and lambing coming up and you know,
tough weather events we've got, farmers really got to look
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after themselves, don't they, and avoid burning out at a
stressful time of the year. Nothing more important than your
own top two inches oh.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Undred percent share and as really easy to do or
get stuck and stuck in the run and stuck in
the system for what's happening.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I always say to my wife, you know, carving and landing,
that it's a marathon, not a sprint, you know, and
you've got to look you know, when you work through
a marathon, you're to look after yourself and and this
is this is no different. So make sure you've identified
you know when you're going to get tired, what you're
going to put in place to get tired. And most
important for me, it's it's just getting off farm just
a little bit, just to get your head into a
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different world and make sure you're thinking about something else
other than than you know that smell like coloss from
cows and the cars and the car feeds and everything
that comes with it. Yeah, it's really important.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic. I wa ain't always good to chat.
Thank you very much for your time and that as
Wayne Langford Federated Farmer's National President here on the country.
So your confidence level, people, how is yours? Will get
you We'll get you to send that through over the
course of the show. Actually tell us how you're going
in terms of your confidence right now? Are you up
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with those forty three three percent of targeting the debt repayment?
And do you want to follow the advice of Wayne there,
get off, clear the head, go and do something a
little bit different. This is the Country Hartless MacKaye And
for Jamie coming up where the Watchers fell. Duncan is
on the show The Country on your Monday hamss McKay
(09:30):
in for Jamie. Great to have your company trying to
check out the weather. As I mentioned, I've been down
on the manner or two a bit there and with
all due respects to my lovely Auntie Beth, occasionally it's
colder inside the outside down there with the frosts that
are happening there. Phil Duncan, how are you?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I'm good mate, How are you?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I can't complain. Are you? Are you the bearer of
good and different or bad news?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah? Probably bad news. I'm guessing this week after all
the lovely frosty weather we had last week, Yeah, this
week going downhill?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Okay, So where should we be looking out for this
bad going downhill weather?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So starting off, we've got wind and we've got rain.
So if we start with the wind, windy northeasterlies today
already gusting to sort of eighty kilometers an hour in
the far north and getting close to gale force around
parts of Auckland and Northland and also around Fjordland. Same
airflow going right down across the top of the country
(10:28):
in the very bottom. So those are the windy areas.
It's going to move eastwards overnight tonight and across Tuesdays,
so we're going to see gusty where they're picking up
peaking tomorrow to some areas. And then that's timed with
this heavy rain which is also moving through and the
rain is slow moving so it's not necessarily a huge,
widespread area of heavy rain, but a narrow area that
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could be slow moving as it crosses New Zealand, and
so rainfall totals top of the South Island Bay have plenty.
Maybe parts of the rest of the Upper North Island
and the West Coast are the main areas where we'd
be seeing up to one hundred, one hundred and fifty
millimeters also over the next twenty four to forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
What does that mean one hundred and hundred and one
hundred and fifty milimeters. What sort of concerns does that
rise for some of those areas that have had enough
of the wet stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yes, that's getting up to about a month's worth of
rainfall falling in a day or two. Now that and
whenter that happens. But the reason why this is probably
sort of you know, making the news and people are
talking about it, is because it is about the third
time in a row that we've seen the Upper South
Island get a heavy rain event, so more possibly about
problems there and other areas that have already had rain.
(11:38):
Parts of white Cutover, for example, already water logged, and
some farms have a bit of ponding on them. So
you throw in a whole lot of rain on top
of it, it just means that the waterways get bigger
and everything gets more water logs. So it's a decent
bit of rain, but hopefully it's not going right up
into that very problematic area. So it's a pain in
the neck and there could be some areas. Keep up
(11:59):
to date with those mets US warnings to sort of
figure out where.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But with Phil Darget from where the watch felt historically,
has the likes of the top of the South Island
had sort of back to back dumping events like this
or was this something a bit new?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You have to look at it like New Zealand is
very very small and in the big picture of the weather.
So when you as a weather forecast to look at
the highs and the lows that come in, you zoom
right out and look at the whole southern Hemisphere from
the equator right down to Antarctica. When you look at
it that way, you realize that we're sort of a
little dot. And so it's the shape of the lows
and the highs as they pass over us, which changes
(12:37):
all the time. There's sort of bubbles of air pressure
and they change every year, just like the clouds do.
And so if you get a line of low pressure
and high pressure in the right or wrong places, you
can end up getting repeat performances every few weeks until
that pattern shapes itself clear. It goes the other way
when we go into drought, and you end up with
one high after the other kind of stuck, and so
(12:58):
you need something big to to mix it all up.
And we're in a neutral year this year. There's no
La Meinia, no Almino, and so for now and probably
going into August, we're going to see more of these
sorts of rain events and these sorts of lows. Hopefully
not all in the same spot though, But will.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
We get any of those beautiful, clear crisp days that
follow the frost are they sort of? Is there anything
of that in the short term after this rain.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think there will be that. It may not be
nationwide like we had last week, but there's certainly some
charts that South Island could be seeing more high pressure
coming through the very southland's been having sort of lower
rainfall than other parts of the country, and so has Fjordland,
so those areas typically get a lot of rain at
this time of year, or at least a lot of
rain events tracking near them. We're not quite seeing that
(13:46):
as much in recent weeks, but there is some high
pressure returning here, but maybe not for everyone, but I
do think August is going to bring variety like July did,
so we do see some big highs coming out of Australia.
They're having a really stormy week at the moment as well,
probably their most unsettled week this year. So we're all
part of that system as well.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Right out, we'll keep a very close eye on things.
That is Phil Duncan from weather Watch here on the country.
Just wrapping that up. As Phil mentioned the narrow band
of rainfall that's going to hit the top of the
south old Carmental Bay a bloody whiteout. I take care
around those nor easterlies, gale force in the far North
and coming down towards Auckland and Field, and as well,
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coming up on the show, we're going to hear from
the CEO of New Zealand Apples and Pears, Karen Morrish.
They've got their big expo and conference. They're hoping to
do great things there and one of the challenges they
face will talk to those growers CEO that's coming up
here on the country. It is the country on your Monday.
(14:58):
Hamish McKay in for JBI for a few days this week.
Great to have your company. Hope you're att a bit
sleepy today because you probably might have got up in
the night and watched our boy Liam Lawson go pretty
well over there in Belgium and the Grand Prix action.
That pretty busy sporting weekend, it was right. Let's get
into some activity here in New Zealand. Apples and Pears
(15:19):
of course, promotes and represent the New Zealand pit fruit industry,
grows packers, marketers of course in our domestic and export markets.
CEO of Apples and Pears is Karen Morris. Good morning, Karen,
How are you.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Good morning, How you doing.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Nice to meet you, Yeah, good to check, good to check.
Where are you today?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I'm in Hawk's Bay, that's where we're based. But yeah,
heading down to Nelson later tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Of course we've already headed into the afternoon actually a
point of fact, but sunny Hawk's Bay, that's Calvin ar
Tramain Country, and later on we're going to be talking
to the winner of the Calvin R. Tremaine Trophy. Georgia Miller,
Rugby Plat that's coming up later in the show. But
you're based out of Nelson, that's right, Karen.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Is it based out of Hawks Bay. But we've got
expo Yeah, exbo this week, which is based on the
Nelson area.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, so tell us about the expert. What's coming up?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Oh, it's quite exciting. Actually, we've we've taken on board
a lot of feedback from our growers who've said that
they love the opportunity to network, and so this year
we're doing more of an expo field. So we've got
lots of exhibitors, we've got six short, punchy sessions, just
really maximizing the opportunity for people to mingle in network. Really.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, fantastic, that's the way to do it. Short and punchy,
lots of information and lots of networking. As you're saying,
time a year though our for our growers and everybody,
it's a good time the year to do this. Is
it a bit of a quieter time?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, the I mean the exporters are still exporting, but
from a growing perspective, this is probably the off season,
although we might deny that, but yeah, quiet a time
of the year really yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, so what do you you know to terms of
key themes, key things of discussion, What are you looking at?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
There's a fair bit on trade barriers and those, you know,
market access issues, but also market access opportunities. We've just
finished a big piece of work with KPMG looking at
a little bit of crystal ball gazing out into the
next five or so years of what market access could
look like. So there's going to be a lot around that.
(17:26):
We've got a piece on water, We've got a piece
on delegations and maximizing the impacts of that, and then
finishing up with some electric sustainability work with Mike Casey.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, so oh that'll be interesting with Mike. Always interesting
with Mike Casey. Hey, just that crystal ballgazing, Can you
give us a little bit of insight into what you're
seeing sort of three four, five years down the track?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Oh? I think probably in terms of market wise, it's
a case of looking at how we do it differently.
You know, if you look back ten years, we do
business so differently than we did even years ago. So
looking forward to twenty thirty twenty thirty five, we're going
to have to change how we do it, as well
as the markets and how they behave so there's a
little bit of peace around human behavior as well as
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the actual markets themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay, so could you outline perhaps a couple of key challenges.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh, the key challenge is for us if we think
of one that's really front and center at the moment
is India and the FDA negotiations. So that's that would
be you know, a huge win if we could have
any improvements in that with a currently a fifty percent tariff,
So any improvements on that is going to help. And
really it's about piecing together the different parts of the
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industry and whose responsibility lies where to double our exports
because we're aiming to be a two billion dollar industry
by twenty thirty five.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Now, I just want to check in with the good
folk of the Tesman region. How badly affected by the
flooding have the fruit grower has been in that area?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, it's not been very nice at all. I spent
a couple of days down there last week on the ground.
And whilst it's a small amount that is effected in
terms of hectares, those that are affected are badly affected.
So it's certainly for them there is going to be
a bit of a bounce back and a rebuild that's
going to need to be done. But certainly we're working
(19:23):
with hoard end Z to help to help the advocacy
in that space.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, okay, that's good to hear. Hey, what are some
of the let's say we look at some of the
areas in research and development right now in the put
fruit industry. What's happening there, What are you most excited about.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
There's a lot to do with pest and disease resistance,
so there's a lot of management that we do in
the research area for that, and also in the post
harvest as well. We've got a case that we're going
to be looking at at the expo, looking at post
harvest washers and how technology can help that pest and
disease management as well. So there's lots of things all
(20:01):
coming together at once.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Really any roadblocks in that pest and disease area.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Certainly the ability to get our hands onto chemistry or
biologicals and that sort of thing is problematic, and that's
some of the work that we've been doing with the EPA,
and that's yeah, that would probably be our biggest barrier
in that space.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, because we've had this discussion recently to have me
about Baya going out and the different you know, the
difficulties facing EPA and the call to the ministry and
the ministers to get active in this particular front. Hey, Karen,
all the best for what starting thirtieth of July, not
too far away from the big conference in the.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Expo yep A couple of days time.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
They're fantastic, all the very best for that and we
look forward to some feedback at a later day. Much appreciated, Karen, Thank.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
You, Thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thanks Hamish, thank you, thank you very much. Indeed, Karen
Morris the CEO of NZ at Apples and Pears and
all the best. So then that sounds like an excellent
expo and a conference they've got coming up there. If
you haven't caught up with this news, I'm Hamus mckaye
and I'm pulling in for Jamie McKay and Michelle is
(21:11):
in Dunedin. When Jamie goes away, he always sort of
rings me and says, but you know, we've been mates
a long time now and we have got very close,
even though our names are spelled differently, I'm sure we
are related, McKay and mckaye. Somehow they just managed to
put an m ac instead of an mc. Who's right?
Who's wrong? I don't know, Michelle, but he alway says,
don't do too well, mate, do a good job. But
if you was, if you were should of judging me
(21:32):
out of ten performance to date, how would you go.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
I'll definitely give you a solid seven, definitely a solid
a solid B plus.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I think a B plus, you know, like that's way
better than my performance at university.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Well, I think it's a team effort, isn't it. So
I'll give us a solid B plus.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Look, I reckon we're B plus sort of stretching into
a minus territory. But I reckon, by the time we
have had Georgia Miller on the show a little later on,
I reckon, we'll be really cranky long towards the sort
of straight a, straight A.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
That's what we're aiming for, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, we're going to take what we're taking a break now.
I'm going to come back with a bit of rural
news and a bit of sport. We might have a
bit of bend around the sport actually, and the rural
News of course, absolutely. Yeah. I loving the Cape Bush too,
you but they'll run up that hill.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Kay, excellent, Okay, We'll be back with sports news and
rural news.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Next the Country on your Monday time now Michelle Rural News.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Country's world news with cop Cadets, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower Bread visit steel for dot cot
on In said for your local stockist.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, thanks, Hamish, And I'd just like to point out
this is an invite, by the way, for people to
text and their marks for us. We'd rather not know,
but someone kindly has given us a B plus Hamish.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, B plus. I'm very very happy with that. As
I say, I was a sort of a C disccasionally
C minus through my days at Massi University. So I'll
take B plus any day of the week. Hey, seas
get degrees, Yeah exactly. And we get to see the
world too when we're not studying as hard as some
others do. Yeah, there you go, absolutely see what I did. Okay.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
So in rural news, we have got some news about
Kiwi fruit. So despite the question marks over the United
States tariffs, Kiwi fruit growers have enjoyed a highly promising season.
New Zealand key we Fruit Growers and Corporated Chief executive
Colin Bond says the largest key we fruit harvest yet
was now largely complete, with more than two hundred and
fifteen million trays picked. Well, it'll be some time before
(23:36):
forecasts can be made for the twenty five twenty twenty five,
twenty six crop. Bond says the industry predicted a seventeen
percent increase in total supply between twenty twenty four and
twenty twenty nine. Potential tariffs on exports to the US,
including key refruit, remain on the industry's radar, and of
course it's more news with tarifs more uncertainty this week
for kew wee businesses exporting into the US. Donald Trump's
(23:59):
agreed to a new trade deal with the EU this morning,
which includes a fifteen percent tariff on EU imports to
the US. Trump's also indicated he'll raise the baseline tariff
all countries face from ten percent to fifteen percent. Christopher Luxon,
who spoke to Mike Hoskin this mornings in New Zealand,
hasn't been advised of an increase, He says they've agreed
with the US to look at things again at the
(24:20):
end of the year. But they don't want New Zealand
to be any worse off than anyone else. And you
can find more Royal news at the country dot co
dot m z his Hamish was sport.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Alrighty oh, of course I have a night McLaren's oscar Piastre.
He took the check and flag ahead of his team
made Lando Norris and what I am christening Team McLaren
team New Zealand. Good to see that happening for Aris.
Charles maclaire was up to third place, eighth place for
Liam Lawson, Shane van Gisbergen. He's finished nineteenth at the
(24:59):
Brickyard four one hundred Indianapolis complained of an underpowered car
and vibrations had been there. IndyCar action from Laguna Seca.
Scott Dixon has finished fifth in the latest race. Marcus
Armstrong was eighth there. Scott McLaughlin coming home in a
tenth place now Michelle. Pronunciation please of mister Pagatcha his
(25:21):
first name, please Tada Pagatcha, winner of the fourth tour,
his fourth Tour de France title. Man, You've got to
have big heart and lungs to do that three thousand,
two hundred and ninety eight kilometers across the Republic over
the last twenty three days with only I think one
rest day. Well, the fun art has secured you can
be fun with that name too, has secured victory on
(25:44):
the last stage. What a stage up the champsa Lise
in Paris. There, I'll never forget. The greatest stage of
any one of the greatest sporting events I've ever seen
was Greg Lemonde and Lauren Fignon in nineteen eighty nine
when they raced up there and it was seconds apart
and nouneer. This sort of like just the you know,
the gliding home for the dough and show as they
(26:05):
do it these days. This was full on back then.
If you've never seen that, go on to YouTube and
find Lauren Fignon against hear did I say great American
names just escaped my mind? Anyway, That was Greg Lamond.
Good goodness Meehamers having a senior moment, and congratulations too
(26:25):
to Donnah Wilkins. What Josh done with that tactics team
to get through and take the a n Z Premiership title,
paying due respect too to the influence of the late,
the wonderful Robin Broughton. Gie. I used to enjoy Robin
Broughton when I was back in my old sports newsday.
Great stuff there by the tactics. There you go, that's
(26:45):
our sport.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
It is. It's fantastic, isn't it that? Did you watch
much of the Tour de France?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Love it?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
I love?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What I love is about that sort of about the
thirty minute highlight package that you can do daily, and
it's like you you go on, you followed the tour
and you get a tour of France and you know,
it's so beautifully produced. I mean all the old castles
and the farmhouses and then you get those sort of
lovely swimming pools and oh just beautiful.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's amazing. And I mean, of course Lance Armstrong, well
did he win seven? Not really, but Tarda can chase
that down. I guess over the next few years. He's
still got a lot in the tank.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yet, Yeah, I look at it. It's one of the
greatest that do you know, do you know, Michelle, I
know that you're a cyclist, very fine triathlete, very decorated
career that I have twice ridden the retro Wellington to
Auckland cycle tour with mister Stephen Cox. I have ridden
alongside Stevens and Jack Swart. Yeah, there you go. I
(27:41):
just want you just thought I might throw that in there,
just as something.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
You know, I am speechless with that name drop.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, that name of Stephen Swart. And then its greatest
bit of advice if we've got time, very quickly he
said to me. He said to me, Hamish, how do
you train? And I said, oh, data dati. He said, well,
fat trackies like you should not be doing hills. You
should ride as much flat as you can. And justin'spin
spin and you come to a hill and you'll go
up it. Great advice it was there you go, was indeed.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
And talking sport, we've got Georgia Miller next.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
The country Amos mcuy and for Jamie of course, Women's
Rugby World Cup coming up this year not too far away.
At the twenty twenty four Rugby Awards, Georgia Miller was
honored with the Calvin Artramin Memorial Player of the Year
Award ward, an award to win that is one of
(28:34):
our greatest All Blacks. The thirty year history of the award.
Georgia was just the second youngest recipient of twenty, just
behind Jonah Lomu and joins us now Georgia, Hello, how
are you?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Good?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Great? Thank you? Great to have you with us here. Look,
how's this big transition? I mean, obviously we know you
from the sevens world. Now you're into the fifteens world.
It's all all going pretty well for you.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yeah, and I've really enjoyed it. A different challenge. Obviously
I'm a lot more physical, that's for sure. But yeah,
it's been really cool called to come in with the
black fans girls and you know, put my best foot
forward and hopefully help help this team in.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
The World Cup. How long have you been playing rugby
and what got you into it?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
I started when I was four and then kind of
just played since. But I grew up with two older brothers.
Mum and dad played a bit of rugby, so kind
of just naturally.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Happened Mommy and dad played it. But when you saw
a bit of rugby, who do they play for? What's
the sort of background?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Harlequins down into Menou Dad played heaps of games for
seniors and then mum played here and there when they
had a woman's team down there. But yeah, pretty rugby
loving family.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It had a bit of Harland dancing in there as well.
I mean, does that sort of help you your side step? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, I started that what I was for as well,
so kind of of all I've done them both together,
and I think there's been a lot of skills that
have transferred both ways. But probably more so my highland
dancing has helped my rugby than rugby helping the dancing.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But yeah, I imagine, Hey, what's your sort of rural connection.
Are you sort of from a farming background or from
a sort of a farming part of the world.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Nah, No, I'm from Tomorrow but in this town township,
but I had pretty pretty close connections to all my
mates had farms. So we're offen out there and just
running a muck.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah. So you can't come from a place like Timaru
and not have a connection to the land, can you.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Exactly, Yeah, exactly. Now you're following in the footsteps as
a seventh star to open side Flanka for the black
Ferns Sarah Herny, I mean she certainly proved that that
was a good path to follow. How much of an
inspiration is she Madawatwo's finest I call her.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yeah, she's been awesome, I think since joining the Sevens
and having hers as my captain and good friend along
the way. She's honest, she'll tell you what's up, but
she's honestly your biggest supporter. So really lucky to have
her in my corner and always supporting me, helping guide
me and just inspiring me with what she does.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, she's an inspiration. I was going to say to
if you come from a farming background, can you share
three hundred sheep a day like Sarah could when back
in the day when she was amazing. Mind you a brother,
her old man Allen Goss, he could share her mother
was a wonderful wool handler, and of course brother Simon.
She is about eight hundred a day. But a great family.
And you're such a cool person to be following the
(31:41):
footsteps of what's the next few weeks months roll out?
Like now with the Blackfelt you got a bit of
in camp time.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Yeah, so we're in camp this week and then we
get about a week or so when we go back
home still training and then head over to England about
middle of all and then yeah, pretty much the World
Cup kicks off.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
How much study have you done of those? I mean,
if you go back to that last the World Cup
here in New Zealand and the French player misses the
kickout in front of the semi final, we make the final,
and then England are down to fourteen and we win
that last line out. I mean, it's a fine line
between pleasure and pain, isn't it. I mean it's going
to be awesome. The Canadian's very good too.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I think it's going to be a really tough World
Cup this year. And you know, heaps of teams have
had so much growth, which will be so exciting. Just
that challenge of the best players in the BOOST teams
coming up against each other, I think will be a spectacle,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Have you engaged the services of your brothers to get
yourself sort of? I guess, because you're gonna have to
take some more knocks, aren't you. It's a bit more,
as you say, a bit more constant physical playing the
fifteens and the sevens, how have you? Sort of it's
not hardened up, but how have you sort of adjusted
to take those knocks.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yeah, probably after a few years of missing those heavy,
hard knocks, just coming straight back in and getting used
to all of that again. You know, I definitely had
a rare sore body the first few weeks, but just
adjusting and then kind of using my strengths to manipulate
that as easy and as safely as I can.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah. Fantastic. Okay, So hey, George, we really look forward
to to following you. What was that moment like, just
briefly to wrap up when you were when the team
was announced. I thought they did a great job of
that and your members of the family and friends and
that there. What was that like for you?
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, it was so special, as you said, with our
family and friends there, and I guess sharing the moment
with the other thirty two players and knowing what they've
done to get into a position like this. So I
think we've got a great group to go put our best,
you know, team out their best performances out there, and
(33:58):
hopefully go win this thing.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
There's a been any characters that you hadn't met before
and the team that you're getting to know and enjoying
their company.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Yeah, I guess like it's been nice having a lot
of time with the girls to get to know over
run a lot more. I haven't really seen or played
with a lot of them in a few years, so
it's nice to keep building those connections.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh fantastic, Thank you very much. That is Georgia Miller
blackfurn off to the Women's Rugby World Cup. Course has
made the move from sevens to fifteen. Will be looking
to follow her the Calvin Ar Tremaine Memorial Player of
the Year winner and looking to do great things with
our team at that World Cup. Here, you're listening to
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you go, hey, Michelle, there we go. This is you know,
if we had any sort of did we do any
better than a B plus for today's show in place
of the legend Jamie Mackay, how do we go?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
There is an A minus there, so there's not too bad.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I meant to.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
We can still keep naming high. We've got three more
days to you know, improve on the c our.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Feet on the ground and keep shooting for the stars.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But like Casey Kasem, you know, back in the day,
there you go, yes, okay, anything you want to add
anything else out of there from down in the Deep
South and Donner's beautiful Dunedin.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Tomorrow we might catch up with someone from Arable. Of course,
that confidence survey released Bifederaid farmers. They're not doing so well,
so we might try and catch up with someone there,
and I believe you've got someone in the line up
as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Ah, Yes, we're going to go to Pongoroa in the
central Southern Hawks Bay, Northern Wyre Rapper. I'm quite sure
that as Rebecca grees of course well award winning journalist, farmer,
you name it, she'll have a few good views on
some certain things there, So looking forward to chatting to
Becks and she can also tell us how she fell
off her horse recently. Here you go, righty, Hope. I
(36:49):
think that's just about just about getting our time, isn't it.
Just wanted a quick shout out to them, my teammates
here at endzed me and the Country and tremains my
friends and fielding culture eats, strategy for dinner. Catch you
tomorrow on The Country.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
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