June 15, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Emma Higgins, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCallum, Phil Duncan, and Cheyne Gillooly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Get a New Zealand. I'm Jamie mckaye. Welcome to the Country.
Brought to you by Brant. Lenny Kravitz is going to
fly away. He's coming to New Zealand for the first time.
One man who spent a bit of time on a
plane recently as our first guest on the Country today.
His name is Deputy Dave Seymour. Yes, Deputy Prime Minister
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David Seymour, who was over at the Oxford Union debate
and on the way home he read she sent his
new book A Different Kind of Power Lock Review book Club.
Today on the Country with David Seymour. Lots of other
things to talk about with him as well. Looking at
the rest of the show, I literally have paper for
Africa here. I don't even know where it is. I
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just have to go off the top of my head. Well,
Emma Higgins is going to talk to us about the
Q two quarterly report just released by Rabobank. You know,
maybe a softening of dairy prices in the second half
of twenty five, twenty sixth. The Farmer Politician panel today
is Grant McCullum Andrew Hoggard. Caught up with both of
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those boys at field Days. Phil Duncan at Field Days
was accorded the honor of the Agricultural Communicator of the Year.
Well deserved And if we get time, Shane Galuley, I
hope I got a pronunciation of a surname right there.
The new chief executive not a Federated Farmers. Let's try
the young farmers. But David Seymour, Deputy Davis with this,
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when did you get back into the country, David, Oh,
just last night when you read to send us book
on the way home in the plane? Was that rather
than pap a sleeping pol Well?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I thought it might have the same effects. But I
got to say it is a very easy read and
you have to admire some of her better qualities. Now
just hear me out. You know, she does have a nice,
kind tone about her, and I think she's genuine when
she says that if we were able to see the
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world through the eyes of a child and make the
world a better place from the perspective of children, and
she suddenly talks about getting lots of letters from children
that helped her make policy, then would have a better world.
And I'm kind of susceptible to that argument. I just
think that in order to make the world a better place,
you actually need some adults in the room. And the
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main thing that's missing is there's absolutely no self reflection
on any of the results of her policies. She doesn't
mention fiscal policy or DEAs or textes or deficits once
a whole book, but it does take about eleven chapters
until she starts primary school.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Has she been overly demonized in this country?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Look, I think the reason that she has become so
polarizing for a lot of people is that she really
did promise so much, so much more kindness, but she
was prepared in practice to marginalize people. If you didn't
want to get vaccinated, turn the sprinklers on you and
mock you. If you had a firearm, you got blamed
for a terrorist attack. If you're a farmer, you face
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and have a lunch of regulation suggesting that you're kind
of a bad person and trying to destroy your own land.
But you know, will will come somehow help you be
a better person. And then of course, if you're a landlord,
then you're obviously trying to take advantage of everyone that
you're actually providing a home to it. If you're an employer,
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you're obviously trying to rip off your staff, so we'll
put more rules on you there. So the kindness and
inclusion ended up being very much nastiness and exclusion if
you weren't in the in crowd, and I think that
is why people got so angry.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
How was the Oxford Union debate. I've seen snippets of it.
Did you have your David Longe moment?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't think I quite managed to match the big man,
but I loved it, mainly because of the quality of
a discussion. You know, Oxford Union was formed in about
eighteen hundred, sorry eighteen twenty three, when you weren't allowed
to criticize the church.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They said, we're.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Founding this thing for free speech. So I love doing
the debate. Our team lost, but narrowly. I think we
lost about one hundred and ninety eight votes to one
hundred and eighty three, so we did reasonably well. We
only lost by a few percent if you work it out.
And I just thought it was great to be able
to go and debate freely about our human rights universal
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or should we be searching the past for reason to
resent each other along the grounds of our ancestry. The
contrast was the New Zealand media you know TV and
Z reported that I was defending speaking because some activists
said I shouldn't be allowed to because I'm a bad person.
And the contrast between a student club founded two hundred
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years ago to defend free speech in the New Zealand
media questioning whether you know someone who's elected by their
peers to represent them in Parliament should even be allowed
to speak as pretty staggering. But hey, look it also
shows us how we can have a better world in
New Zealand by being a bit more respectful of free speech.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You've just flown home. You will be acting prime minister
because our prime minister is about to fly off at
some stage this week I'm not sure when to China
on a trade trip, and he will be literally David
Seymour walking a diplomatic tightropeo't imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yes, well, it's one of the challenges for New Zealander
is that the people who like to buy our produce,
and by the way, having just spent a week in Europe,
I can tell you I've got an even greater appreciation
for the Kiwi farmer. Our produce is so much better
in my stomachs that are starting to feel normal again,
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having been back for almost today. But look, I mean, unfortunately,
the people who are traditional allies are not so keen
on buying our produce, and the people who are keen
on buying our produce are always the people that we
agree with in terms of geopolitics. That is the typewrote
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that every New Zealand Prime Minister has had to walk
for a wee while now, and we certainly wish Chris
all the best and that mission that he has going
from Beijing to NATO in one week now.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I was reading online this morning that Treasury warns House
New Zealand cuts need to double. So the figures hint
at cuts of one point two billion dollar this year.
Health in New Zealand needs six hundred million in savings.
Why on earth, David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister, a man
with influence, are we cutting? Are we penny pinching on health?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well we're not.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And let me just put in a bit of context.
Not twenty nineteen the health budget was eighteen billion last year.
It was thirty billion this year. I think it's about
thirty one and a half. So we've increased the amount
of spending on healthcare by about seventy percent in the
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last six years. The question is where it will go
and how do we get efficiency. It didn't help that
there was a pandemic, but that's been gone. It didn't
help the previous government decided to restructure the entire health
system in the middle of a pandemic, but that's in
the past. Now. What our government has to do is
work out how to get value for money out of
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the extraordinary increase in expenditure we've had over the last
six years. And you'll see us just one little change
at a time, figuring out how we more efficiently get
stuff done in this country.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Did you miss field days? Did you miss not going
to field days?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it's probably the first field days I've missed in
a decade. I also missed the Grammar King's first fifteen game,
which was disastrously won by those people in the Maroon
from down South. So it's been a bad time for
my annual engagements. But Andrew Hoggart, by all accounts, did
a really good job, spoke well and we're really grateful
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for the reception that the rest of the ex team,
along with Mark Cameron and Karen sur and some of
our other MPs who were there, they really got a
lot of love and also a lot of feedback, so
we are encouraged to keep working for Rural On New Zellen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Hey, when do you take over as acting PM? What
day does luxe and fly out?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I don't want to sound too fedantic that it's
six forty five tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You're counting, you're counting the minutes, are you someone?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Someone just told me a few minutes ago so I
happen to know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, good on it. Thanks for your time today on
the Country, and I'm glad you got home safely and
ed talking about talking about your man Andrew Hoggart. He's
coming up a wee bit later in the show on
our Farmer Politician panel. Lots of things happening at Field
days to look back on. But David Seymour, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Fantastic see you, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
There we go, Deputy Prime Minister. He'll be Prime Minister?
When did he say tomorrow morning, six forty five am?
Up next on the show, a Rabobank who had a
big presence obviously at Field Days. They put on a
really good client breakfast with Nikola Willison, Ben Pickton speaking.
You might have seen Ben picked in on Q and
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A with Jack Tame yesterday. It was very good. He
had been picked an on of course Steve Abel, the
greensagg spokesperson. I didn't even realize that have one of those.
I thought they hated agriculture. We might comment a wee
bit later about that one with our farmer panel. But
up next, as I said, it's Rabobank and it's Emma
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Higgins that've come out with their Q two quarterly report,
the Global Dairy Quarterly Report are subtitled too good to
be True Expect downside risks coming over the coming months.
That's up next on the country. It is hot off
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the press. It's Rabobank's latest Global Dairy Quarterly Report. This
one is Q two and it's subtitled too good to
be true downside risks expected to emerge overcoming months. The
author is Emma Higgins. I jokingly refer to her occasionally
as the grim Reaper. I just think you're being pragmatic
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and practical here, Emma.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well, thank you, Jamie. Also, I feel like you've upgraded
my nickname from the Grinch the grim reaper, so that's
quite a quite a moniker to hold going forward. But look,
I think we do need to be pragmatic. So we
have seen the announcement come out of ten dollars for
twenty six and this follows a twenty four to twenty
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five season.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Also with double digits.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Great news to the dairy industry. But it's what we
do with these improved cash flows that will set us
up for more volatile times ahead, which is really important.
So my messages out there yet greatly take that ten
dollar headline absolutely, but what would it look like if
we saw perhaps some weakness come through. Maybe nine fifty
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to ten fifty or nine to fifty to ten dollars
at least is somewhere where we should be sitting and
thinking about in anticipation for the global uncertainty that is
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So apologies, Ema, I didn't mean to upgrade you from
a grinch to a grim reaper, but what I do
appreciate from you and the team at Rabobank is you
do normally take a cautious or conservative line, which I
think is exactly the right thing to do when you're
trying to forecast this. You have come out at ten
dollars as a twenty five twenty six forecast. Are you
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going to stick with that?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
So actually, when we were forecasting for the twenty five
to twenty six seasons, the one that we've just started,
I came out at nine fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Thinking that the apologies again, I've got to apologize twice.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It's fine, Jami, Look nine fifty, ten dollars, you know,
it's all rounding. But in reality, when we look at
Fronteria's range, the forecasts an exceptionally wide range, so eight
bucks to eleven. The midpoint of that is nine fifty,
but they have priced it slightly high in that and
it's moved away from the line of the midpoint of
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the range, and now it's just a forecast at ten bucks. Look,
we need to talk about market volatility because there are
other companies that have come out a little bit lower
than that ten dollars figure, citing uncertainty and particularly with
regards to geopolitics where I'm watching. These are the factors,
and the point is that I'm watching for Jamie. When
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it comes to milk price, needle movers. Number one, it's
what's happening on the demand side. If we look at
it from the hard data perspective, we've seen some challenging
or some cautionary tales come out of some markets and
some channels so far. If we look at McDonald's results
in quarter one recently announced same store sales shrink over
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three point five percent, which was the worst result in
the United States since the COVID nineteen lockdowns. We have
seen them specifically cite medium to low income consumers really
under pressure. All those other challenging results coming out of
the likes of Starbucks in China and also young brands
with respect to Pizza Hart as well, and then we
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overlay that with some of our soft data so confidence
results that have also come out the United States recently
were at their second to lowest levels ever recorded. So
there are some certainly some worrying signals out there on
that demand side that we're watching really closely because that
could be really impactful for demand for our dairy products.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So what about the production side of the equation, the
supply side.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
That is the good news story, right, that's the bright spark,
and that's the part that's really holding a strong floor
for commodity prices and for a milk prices in tune.
So globally, there is not a tidal wave of milk
out there. In saying that, we expect that to grow
by one percent from the major exporting countries this year
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in twenty twenty five, So the tide is gathering pace,
but we don't think it's going to be a tidal
wave that will overwhelm market so to speak. New Zealand
is probably one of the you know, the areas that
has shown the most growth in recent times. We expect
that to continue. Giving the Homer price book cast here
in New Zealand were the permitting, but also expecting growth
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out of the United States, South America and then also
parts of Europe as well. So the tight global supply
of the last three years has been really helpful. That
tide is starting to turn, and again it's how that
matches up with weak demand that we're really cautious about.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, because traditionally when the price gets up there, the
tap gets turned on in nations such as the US.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, that's right. So we are seeing great farm gate
prices here, similar story elsewhere as were elsewhere as well.
So most of the producers that we track in those
Big seven economies are looking at producing more thanks to
higher farm gates. So yeah, really it's a good news
story here for now, but it's what can we do
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with that improved cash flow to set our businesses up
for what looks like an increasingly global volatility or global
volatile time ahead. And you know we're seeing headlines on
the daily right now with even in regards to what's
happened over the weekend between Israel and Iran, and there
are some challenges absolutely at that mac pro level when
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it comes to geopolitics, which is in turn helping.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
To drive market Emma Higgins always good to chat. Great
to catch up with you at field days as well.
From Rabobank.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It As twenty six halfter twelve the US Golf Open.
If you've been following that, What a brute of a
course that one is. They reckon The average golfer wouldn't
break two hundred there, get in the rough, you'd never
get out at Oakmont. Well, American JJ Spawn has won
the US Golf Open, making birdie on the final two holes.
How good is that to win by two shots? Spawn
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finished at one under the only player in the field
to go under path through seventy two holes. Scotsman Robert
McIntyre finished alone in second one over, while our Ryan
Fox finished tied for nineteenth. Great effort on a very
difficult golf course. More in sport up next, it's the
Farmer Panel, Grant McCullum Andrew Hoggard. It is today's farmer panel.
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In fact they are a farmer politician panel. Andrew Hoggard,
Manuwatu Cowcocky Associate ad Minister of Biosecurity and Grant McCullum,
MP for Northland, National MP for Northland. Now you two
have been having a sleepover. Should I be worried? Andrew?
You're in Hamilton today for the opening of the Trans
Tasman flights to and from Hamilton. Do you have the
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quasi Minister for the North Island, Grant McCullum there to
cut the ribbon?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
No?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
No, no, no, I think I'm the only one doing
ribbon cutting today.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Did you hear the private if he put me in
by place when you asked that question, he just said no.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I want to come back to the debate because I
thought a couple of the Nats in it were actually
quite outstanding. But let's talk about the issues of the day.
And Andrew Hoggard, you raise a good one. And I
watched Q and A yesterday with Jack Taman. I thought
it was one of the best Q and as I've
seen him do. He did have Steve abel on the
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Greens AG spokesperson who wants to shove agg back into
the ETS. All I can say is God save New Zealand.
If that lot get anywhere near the Treasury benches.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I couldn't agree more. I mean, one of the useful
things that, one of the few useful things that came
out of the heat Walker. You can know a debate
was some decent cost benefit analysis on what would happen,
and it quite clearly showed he Walker you can know
I was going to slash twenty percent of the sheet
and beef production. But Etes was even worse. So why
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anyone would even think about considering taxing the most efficient,
emissions efficient farmers in the world is absolutely beyond me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Grant McCullum.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
It was shoved production off shore.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Absolutely, Grant McCallum. The Greens have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I could agree more, mate, And this will make you
smile about My daughter was there at Ease at the
Field Days on the weekends, so on Thursday, and when
Scott Willis got up, she stood up and asked how
to go at him about inheringance taxes. Whilst obviously I
think they're a stupid idea, I just wonder if this
might be some self inter just floating around on that question.
But you know, but that I'd be worried.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'd be worried. What's your back?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Hey, don't worry Grant. She's not awoken that like you.
She's extreme right, she's going to join Andrew in the
act party there. Look some of the announcements at field
Days we had, for instance, at the Rabobank breakfast on
when was that Thursday morning? Wasn't it? All the days
sort of melt into one, don't they. But Thursday morning
Nikola Wallace with with the wall carpets and Kyanger, Kayanger, Aura.
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Is this a great move that will save the wall industry,
Andrew or is it a bit of virtue signaling?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Oh? Well, it's a good move. And it was even
more pleasing in that announcement that you know, the wall
carpet made it there on its merits, not any sort
of push from government, just making sure that officials were
looking wider than just their preconceived ideas. Will it change
the wool industry, it'll help, but I think that fundamental
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change needs to occur within. There's some long standing issues there,
and I think farmers know what they are. So I
think there's you know, there needs to be a much
more united industry, and yeah, more of a streamlined approach
to how it all works.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Okay, But ultimately, guys and I know you're both COWCOCKI is,
although grant you used to be a sheep farmer, strong
wall's never going to come right until we get some
other significant use for it other than carpets.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
I agree, it was ultimately, Jane, when we ninety ninety three,
we had five thousand years, we sold it switched to
milking cows, right, and we were getting five dollars a
kilo for crossbread wall back then in ninety ninety three,
even if using inflation, what does that bring it probably
north of ten grand now ten dollars a kilo. Sorry,
so you know, it just shows and that's just that
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that wasn't a lot of money back then either. So
it really there's going to be a fundamental shift and
finding some real value in crossbread wall. And it's great
to see the announce that we've done because it'll give
using it in our local houses and so forth, but
there has to be a fundamental shift in the value.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Of the product.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Andrew a couple of your announcements at field Days, one
around foot and mouth disease and one around nature credits,
which was the most exciting.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think in terms of both important. But for me,
the foot and mouth is probably the more critical one
in terms of getting that operational agreement and everyone on
the same page as to what we'd do if it were.
Hopefully it never happens, but to get here, my understanding
is those discussions have been happening for about eighteen years
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or so.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So I said a.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Target when I got in that I wanted it sorted
in a year. Took slightly more than a year, but
got it done, so I was pretty bloody chuffed with that.
And yeah, nature credits stuff. It's sort of all about
trying to provide some value for those farmers that choose
not to plant parts of the farm out in exotic pine,
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that there's their extra value there, recognizing the bid diversity
that occurs with natives, but also some of the other
projects that farmers might want to be taking, or catchment
care groups and the like might want to be doing
on their farms. Any landowner really and just you know,
apparently there's a big demand out there for companies and
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philanthropists wanting to back projects like this. This is you know,
we're looking into how can we create a system and
what's government's role in it for being able to stand
something up in that space.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okay, Well, the one sensible comment I think Steve Abel
made on Q and a Grant McCallum was the fact
that we can't plant our way out of pollution with
pine trees. He's right on that.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Ultimately, yes, we've got to. Ultimately, if we're going to
address the whole warming challenges, we need to reduce our
missions over time. And that will happen. I think this
through technological change and the great great moves like the
solar more and more farmers using solar on farm, which
just makes so much sense. And we had an announcement
about that. Simon Wat's announced some advice and so forth
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to help there, and ASB came out with a one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars interest free loans for five
years to build solar Those are the sort of things
that will shift the dial. The planting trees really only
just kick the can down the road. But putting my
blue Green hat on from the chair of the Blue
Greens National Party and I endorse the nature credits. It's
great to have that choice on the farm, so farmers
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and get benefits for looking after the native bush on
their property.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Grant McCallum Northland cleaned up in the Ahuthenowa Awards.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
They sure did, and I was so proud of our
team that night the funer Own Night, Tom Trust from
up the coast ball Farming Outford group did an amazing
job and then young Kobe Warmington got the Young Mardy
Farmer of the Ward Year award. So proud of them all.
It's great they have some positive news coming out in
Orphan because we have got a lot of good things
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happening up here and I'm delighted so and I'm looking
forward to going visiting the farm in the near future.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Just to finish on Rural Support Trust, Mike Greenland's team
raising over three hundred thousand dollars and they had that
big dinner slash debate on Wednesday night. Roast. Yeah, it
was a roast. Five hundred and forty three people in
the Claudlands Events Center. And I'll tell you what I thought.
A couple of nts excelled in the debating team. I
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knew James Smega would be good because he's a he's
a guy on the way up. Grant if you're lucky
he's in the South Island or else he'd be the
North Island Minister. So he's the young guy on the
way up, but representing the North Island. And the debate,
I thought Sue's redmain was outstanding.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
I completely agree, did a fantastic job at some of
her lines. The one line are about about giving James
a hard time about hunting for a wife I thought
was really classic actually, But the best line of the
night did come to the Prime Minister. You know that,
don't you, Jamie when he when he talked talked up
the great radio host of the evening, the best bread
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rural country host and the host of the rural radio
in the country and asked where Andy Thompson was. I
don't know that was quite quite the nights entertainment wasn't it, Jamie,
Were you there?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Andrew?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Was another function? I'm make sure I've had it next
year though, in.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
All serious James, a great function, great fundraise. I really
applaud everyone involved for a great course. So thanks to
everyone for what they did.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You need to get in early because I think they're
going to make this an annual event now and it
looks like it could be sell out. Well done to
all those involved in the Rural Support Trust three hundred
thousand dollars plus and it's going to be every center.
It's going to be needed. All right. Andrew Hogar, you
keep up your good work in your ministerial position and
grant you can live in hope to see you later bye, right,
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see you boy. It's always good humor. Yes, the Prime
Minister did get a good shot and he has created
a monster though, let me tell you that. Up next,
it's Rural News and sports News. Pel duncan Agg communicator
of the Year at Field Days and the new Chief
Executive of Young Farmers.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I wish the.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
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but I'm going to steal your thunder. Sorry, No, that's
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ben picked and speaking. The Rabobank Good Deeds Promo is
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open right now. So if you've got a worthy initiative
and your rural community, then the Rabobank Goods Deeds Competition
is all about making it happen. And it might be
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and you can win five thousand dollars plus a day's
long to help get that project done. You're actually a
harder worker than me. I might send you off to
do that this year, unless, of course, there's a golf
course nearby. Michelle, I quite like doing a little bit
of line trimming and stuff. I'm really into that, right well,
you could be off to help the Rabobank team with
that one. If you want to enter the Rabobank Good
(29:18):
Deeds promo, I just go to the website. You can't
miss it on there. Or text good Good to five
double nine hour text number and Michelle will send you
back the direct link. To enter these your rural news.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Sport with AFCO, visit them online at AFCO dot co
dot nz.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And as I said earlier, American JJ Sporn has won
the US Golf Open, making birdies on the final two
holes to win by two shots. He finished at one
under par, the only player underpath through seventy shoe holes.
Scotsman Robert McIntyre finished alone and second at one over.
And let me see who was third. Victor Hoflin third
at two over. Ryan Fox tied four nineteenth. Shane van
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gisburg Let me try that again. Shane van Gisbergen has
powered to a sixteen second victory at NASCAR's inaugural road
Race in Mexico City. The victory marks Van Gisburgen's second
one in the class, after triumphing on debut at Chicago
during twenty twenty three. And that is your sports news.
Up next, the Agricultural Communicator of the Year for twenty twenty.
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I suppose it's twenty twenty four or is it five?
Is it retrospective or ford looking? I don't know. I'll
ask him, Phil Duncan. He's up next. Welcome back to
the country, Lenny Kravitz coming to New Zealand. Our next
guest is probably a big Lenny Kravitz fan, or is
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he more sort of Jimmy Hendrix and Purple Hayes might
have been after being announced as the Agricultural Communicator of
the Year at Field Days, Phil Duncan, proud of you, mate.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Thank you, thank you very much. Nice to be following
in some the steps of some very very amazing people
such as yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well back in the day. Gee, two thousand and six,
I got a thousand bucks and I gave it to
the IHC because I was raising money around the London
Marathon for the IHC, so I thought i'd toss that
one and as well two thousand and six or seven,
I can't remember exactly when. Who are you giving your
prize money to, Phil.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I'm not sure yet. Now you're making me feel very good.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm pressuring you. My IHC carf and rural schemes are great,
great charity, phil.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I do like giving money to charity. I do actually
support quite a few, so we'll see how I go.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You deserve it because I know you've battled. You've battled
in the private industry up against government departments. You know,
I met Service and NIWA and you fought. You fought
to get a good product out there for farmers. So
now you keep it fill keep spending money on weather Watch.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I actually I mentioned you in my speech and the
very did I did, I said, I wanted to thank
Jamie McKay because he's been the person I've worked with
the longest, and we're the Watch. You're the first kind
of client that I had, and we've been working together
since two thousand and I think eight or nine around
about then. And and that you gave me three things.
You help me with people, you help me with politics,
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and every now and then you tell me just to
calm down a bit. And that's that's that's the takeaway
I've here from you over all these years. And I
know many others out there in the rural sort of
media sector look up at you as someone.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Come on, fell, this is about you, not me.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Look well, I can't help us. All you help us all.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, even Thompson.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yes on the number one radio station. According to the
Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
No no, no, no, no no no. Anyhow, we will look.
I look short and sweet for the weather this week
heading into a long weekend for some, it won't be
for many farmers, but Martoiki weekend, it's going to be
a good week in the South Island. We need it,
we need it, Phil, It's it's been awful here.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I know you've got the winter air flowers kind of
hanging around for a bit long. Yet there's no sign
of that disappearing anytime soon. Definitely wintry weather from the
lower North Island southwards even the eastern side. High pressure
controls our weather for a few days, but we do
have another cold front coming in on Thursday Friday, so
Southland and Otago and Westland those areas might be a
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bit unsettled going into the long weekend, but the next
big high rolls back in again by Friday night and
so Saturday and Sunday most places high pressure, light weds.
Perfect long weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Good on you, hey, fell Duncan got to go. Congratulations
for being the Ravens down I'll give them a good
plug because they've been a great supporters of this agricultural
communicator of the air. Really well deserved. You keep up
the good work.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Thanks Matte, thank you for all the very kind words.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Then we go Fell Duncan. Yep, we're the Watch dot
Co dot Nz. We're going to wrap it with the
new chief Executive of Young Farmers. Up next, Welcome back
to the Country, brought to you by Brandt first day
(34:04):
on the Tools for our next guest, Shane Galuley. He
is the new chief executive of Young Farmers Linda Coppersmith,
your predecessor, though Shane is still hanging around till after
the Grand Final and in the cargo in a couple
of weeks time.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
It's good to be able to have a nice hand
over process, and we wanted to make sure that we
could give Linda the scend off that she deserves down
the numbers, so it's good to have her, right.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah. When I heard or read or Michelle told me
that you were the chief executive of the new One,
I thought, I know this blog. I've chatted to him
before and in a past life you were with MP I.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've crossed paths a few times.
You've always been good to me, so hopefully that will continue.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's at a Jamie Mackay appreciation day to day on
the country. I wish I got I wish I got
that at home from the program director Shane. But anyhow,
never mind, it's nice to be loved at work. There
you go. Don't shake your head, Michelle. So tell me
about your background and and and why you came about
to get this job.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
So yeah, as you say, I've been a director at
Ministry of Primer Industries for nyon on seven years, which
is the I think I'm like the longest time I've
ever been in a single role, and I think before
they're a bit of an eclectic background, but mostly working
with growth companies, finance and investment. So I spent a
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bit of time with the stock market and quite a
lot of time with New Zealand Trade and Enterprise and
a few other organizations as well.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You're very you're very well qualified. What attracted you to
the young farmers?
Speaker 8 (35:49):
I personally, I think it's the best role you can
have in the country. It's it's in the fruit and
fiber sector, which is the best sector in the in
the country, and it's working with you. It's an organizer
that has a long and proud history, but as young
at heart. It's built around youth. It's built about promoting
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people as they start and begin their careers. So for me,
it's nothing but positivity. It's got a clear role to
play for the country, for our economy. It's a coal organization.
Cool people, the finalists are amazing. Why wouldn't you want
to work here?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And the collegiality is that a word here? It's very collegial.
Put it that way in terms of it that they
support each other even when they're competing against one another.
And the other thing I love about young farmers and gee,
I know lots of young farmers of the year now
because I've been around for so long myself, is that
when they finish or become too old thirty years plus,
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they give back.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
They do, and I think that's it's the cause. Everybody
is here for the right reason. And you know, I
was lucky enough. Best part of my role with the MPI,
we were obviously a long term sponsor because we believe
in what it stood for. And so I've been part
of that family for about four or five years now,
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and you're right, people just want to give back. People
never want to leave because it is just that collegiality.
It becomes a family and it's kind of people doing
the right thing for the right reasons. And who say
that the competition brings out the best. It showcases the
best of our people. It's in the heart of our
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region and it really I think showcases what it means
to actually be in New Zealander, whether you're with EU
of Farmer or not. It just shows the really best
of who we are.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Okay, Hey, Grand Final coming up in them the Cargo
third to the fifth July. I understand if you want
to get a ticket to that Grand Final, be quickie
with this one, Shane. You need to be in by
Thursday of this week.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Yeah, totally get in there. It's one that you don't
want to massa, so get your tickets as quickly as
you can.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Good stuff. Hey, congratulations on your appointment. First day on
the tools today and I'm sure it'll be a seamless
transition from Linda to you. Shane Galuley, thank you very
much for your time. Is we're at a time at
this end, I'm not sure who's on the show tomorrow yet.
I think it's about time for an argument with Damian O'Connor.
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We might see if we can do that.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay Thanks to Brent Starkest of the
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Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Get a New Zealand. I'm Jamie mckaye. Welcome to the Country.
Brought to you by Brant. Lenny Kravitz is going to
fly away. He's coming to New Zealand for the first time.
One man who spent a bit of time on a
plane recently as our first guest on the Country today.
His name is Deputy Dave Seymour. Yes, Deputy Prime Minister
(00:52):
David Seymour, who was over at the Oxford Union debate
and on the way home he read she sent his
new book A Different Kind of Power Lock Review book Club.
Today on the Country with David Seymour. Lots of other
things to talk about with him as well. Looking at
the rest of the show, I literally have paper for
Africa here. I don't even know where it is. I
(01:12):
just have to go off the top of my head. Well,
Emma Higgins is going to talk to us about the
Q two quarterly report just released by Rabobank. You know,
maybe a softening of dairy prices in the second half
of twenty five, twenty sixth. The Farmer Politician panel today
is Grant McCullum Andrew Hoggard. Caught up with both of
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those boys at field Days. Phil Duncan at Field Days
was accorded the honor of the Agricultural Communicator of the Year.
Well deserved And if we get time, Shane Galuley, I
hope I got a pronunciation of a surname right there.
The new chief executive not a Federated Farmers. Let's try
the young farmers. But David Seymour, Deputy Davis with this,
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when did you get back into the country, David, Oh,
just last night when you read to send us book
on the way home in the plane? Was that rather
than pap a sleeping pol Well?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I thought it might have the same effects. But I
got to say it is a very easy read and
you have to admire some of her better qualities. Now
just hear me out. You know, she does have a nice,
kind tone about her, and I think she's genuine when
she says that if we were able to see the
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world through the eyes of a child and make the
world a better place from the perspective of children, and
she suddenly talks about getting lots of letters from children
that helped her make policy, then would have a better world.
And I'm kind of susceptible to that argument. I just
think that in order to make the world a better place,
you actually need some adults in the room. And the
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main thing that's missing is there's absolutely no self reflection
on any of the results of her policies. She doesn't
mention fiscal policy or DEAs or textes or deficits once
a whole book, but it does take about eleven chapters
until she starts primary school.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Has she been overly demonized in this country?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Look, I think the reason that she has become so
polarizing for a lot of people is that she really
did promise so much, so much more kindness, but she
was prepared in practice to marginalize people. If you didn't
want to get vaccinated, turn the sprinklers on you and
mock you. If you had a firearm, you got blamed
for a terrorist attack. If you're a farmer, you face
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and have a lunch of regulation suggesting that you're kind
of a bad person and trying to destroy your own land.
But you know, will will come somehow help you be
a better person. And then of course, if you're a landlord,
then you're obviously trying to take advantage of everyone that
you're actually providing a home to it. If you're an employer,
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you're obviously trying to rip off your staff, so we'll
put more rules on you there. So the kindness and
inclusion ended up being very much nastiness and exclusion if
you weren't in the in crowd, and I think that
is why people got so angry.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
How was the Oxford Union debate. I've seen snippets of it.
Did you have your David Longe moment?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't think I quite managed to match the big man,
but I loved it, mainly because of the quality of
a discussion. You know, Oxford Union was formed in about
eighteen hundred, sorry eighteen twenty three, when you weren't allowed
to criticize the church.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They said, we're.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Founding this thing for free speech. So I love doing
the debate. Our team lost, but narrowly. I think we
lost about one hundred and ninety eight votes to one
hundred and eighty three, so we did reasonably well. We
only lost by a few percent if you work it out.
And I just thought it was great to be able
to go and debate freely about our human rights universal
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or should we be searching the past for reason to
resent each other along the grounds of our ancestry. The
contrast was the New Zealand media you know TV and
Z reported that I was defending speaking because some activists
said I shouldn't be allowed to because I'm a bad person.
And the contrast between a student club founded two hundred
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years ago to defend free speech in the New Zealand
media questioning whether you know someone who's elected by their
peers to represent them in Parliament should even be allowed
to speak as pretty staggering. But hey, look it also
shows us how we can have a better world in
New Zealand by being a bit more respectful of free speech.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You've just flown home. You will be acting prime minister
because our prime minister is about to fly off at
some stage this week I'm not sure when to China
on a trade trip, and he will be literally David
Seymour walking a diplomatic tightropeo't imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yes, well, it's one of the challenges for New Zealander
is that the people who like to buy our produce,
and by the way, having just spent a week in Europe,
I can tell you I've got an even greater appreciation
for the Kiwi farmer. Our produce is so much better
in my stomachs that are starting to feel normal again,
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having been back for almost today. But look, I mean, unfortunately,
the people who are traditional allies are not so keen
on buying our produce, and the people who are keen
on buying our produce are always the people that we
agree with in terms of geopolitics. That is the typewrote
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that every New Zealand Prime Minister has had to walk
for a wee while now, and we certainly wish Chris
all the best and that mission that he has going
from Beijing to NATO in one week now.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I was reading online this morning that Treasury warns House
New Zealand cuts need to double. So the figures hint
at cuts of one point two billion dollar this year.
Health in New Zealand needs six hundred million in savings.
Why on earth, David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister, a man
with influence, are we cutting? Are we penny pinching on health?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well we're not.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And let me just put in a bit of context.
Not twenty nineteen the health budget was eighteen billion last year.
It was thirty billion this year. I think it's about
thirty one and a half. So we've increased the amount
of spending on healthcare by about seventy percent in the
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last six years. The question is where it will go
and how do we get efficiency. It didn't help that
there was a pandemic, but that's been gone. It didn't
help the previous government decided to restructure the entire health
system in the middle of a pandemic, but that's in
the past. Now. What our government has to do is
work out how to get value for money out of
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the extraordinary increase in expenditure we've had over the last
six years. And you'll see us just one little change
at a time, figuring out how we more efficiently get
stuff done in this country.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Did you miss field days? Did you miss not going
to field days?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it's probably the first field days I've missed in
a decade. I also missed the Grammar King's first fifteen game,
which was disastrously won by those people in the Maroon
from down South. So it's been a bad time for
my annual engagements. But Andrew Hoggart, by all accounts, did
a really good job, spoke well and we're really grateful
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for the reception that the rest of the ex team,
along with Mark Cameron and Karen sur and some of
our other MPs who were there, they really got a
lot of love and also a lot of feedback, so
we are encouraged to keep working for Rural On New Zellen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Hey, when do you take over as acting PM? What
day does luxe and fly out?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I don't want to sound too fedantic that it's
six forty five tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You're counting, you're counting the minutes, are you someone?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Someone just told me a few minutes ago so I
happen to know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, good on it. Thanks for your time today on
the Country, and I'm glad you got home safely and
ed talking about talking about your man Andrew Hoggart. He's
coming up a wee bit later in the show on
our Farmer Politician panel. Lots of things happening at Field
days to look back on. But David Seymour, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Fantastic see you, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
There we go, Deputy Prime Minister. He'll be Prime Minister?
When did he say tomorrow morning, six forty five am?
Up next on the show, a Rabobank who had a
big presence obviously at Field Days. They put on a
really good client breakfast with Nikola Willison, Ben Pickton speaking.
You might have seen Ben picked in on Q and
(09:48):
A with Jack Tame yesterday. It was very good. He
had been picked an on of course Steve Abel, the
greensagg spokesperson. I didn't even realize that have one of those.
I thought they hated agriculture. We might comment a wee
bit later about that one with our farmer panel. But
up next, as I said, it's Rabobank and it's Emma
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Higgins that've come out with their Q two quarterly report,
the Global Dairy Quarterly Report are subtitled too good to
be True Expect downside risks coming over the coming months.
That's up next on the country. It is hot off
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the press. It's Rabobank's latest Global Dairy Quarterly Report. This
one is Q two and it's subtitled too good to
be true downside risks expected to emerge overcoming months. The
author is Emma Higgins. I jokingly refer to her occasionally
as the grim Reaper. I just think you're being pragmatic
(11:03):
and practical here, Emma.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well, thank you, Jamie. Also, I feel like you've upgraded
my nickname from the Grinch the grim reaper, so that's
quite a quite a moniker to hold going forward. But look,
I think we do need to be pragmatic. So we
have seen the announcement come out of ten dollars for
twenty six and this follows a twenty four to twenty
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five season.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Also with double digits.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Great news to the dairy industry. But it's what we
do with these improved cash flows that will set us
up for more volatile times ahead, which is really important.
So my messages out there yet greatly take that ten
dollar headline absolutely, but what would it look like if
we saw perhaps some weakness come through. Maybe nine fifty
(11:52):
to ten fifty or nine to fifty to ten dollars
at least is somewhere where we should be sitting and
thinking about in anticipation for the global uncertainty that is
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So apologies, Ema, I didn't mean to upgrade you from
a grinch to a grim reaper, but what I do
appreciate from you and the team at Rabobank is you
do normally take a cautious or conservative line, which I
think is exactly the right thing to do when you're
trying to forecast this. You have come out at ten
dollars as a twenty five twenty six forecast. Are you
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going to stick with that?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
So actually, when we were forecasting for the twenty five
to twenty six seasons, the one that we've just started,
I came out at nine fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Thinking that the apologies again, I've got to apologize twice.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It's fine, Jami, Look nine fifty, ten dollars, you know,
it's all rounding. But in reality, when we look at
Fronteria's range, the forecasts an exceptionally wide range, so eight
bucks to eleven. The midpoint of that is nine fifty,
but they have priced it slightly high in that and
it's moved away from the line of the midpoint of
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the range, and now it's just a forecast at ten bucks. Look,
we need to talk about market volatility because there are
other companies that have come out a little bit lower
than that ten dollars figure, citing uncertainty and particularly with
regards to geopolitics where I'm watching. These are the factors,
and the point is that I'm watching for Jamie. When
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it comes to milk price, needle movers. Number one, it's
what's happening on the demand side. If we look at
it from the hard data perspective, we've seen some challenging
or some cautionary tales come out of some markets and
some channels so far. If we look at McDonald's results
in quarter one recently announced same store sales shrink over
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three point five percent, which was the worst result in
the United States since the COVID nineteen lockdowns. We have
seen them specifically cite medium to low income consumers really
under pressure. All those other challenging results coming out of
the likes of Starbucks in China and also young brands
with respect to Pizza Hart as well, and then we
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overlay that with some of our soft data so confidence
results that have also come out the United States recently
were at their second to lowest levels ever recorded. So
there are some certainly some worrying signals out there on
that demand side that we're watching really closely because that
could be really impactful for demand for our dairy products.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So what about the production side of the equation, the
supply side.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
That is the good news story, right, that's the bright spark,
and that's the part that's really holding a strong floor
for commodity prices and for a milk prices in tune.
So globally, there is not a tidal wave of milk
out there. In saying that, we expect that to grow
by one percent from the major exporting countries this year
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in twenty twenty five, So the tide is gathering pace,
but we don't think it's going to be a tidal
wave that will overwhelm market so to speak. New Zealand
is probably one of the you know, the areas that
has shown the most growth in recent times. We expect
that to continue. Giving the Homer price book cast here
in New Zealand were the permitting, but also expecting growth
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out of the United States, South America and then also
parts of Europe as well. So the tight global supply
of the last three years has been really helpful. That
tide is starting to turn, and again it's how that
matches up with weak demand that we're really cautious about.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, because traditionally when the price gets up there, the
tap gets turned on in nations such as the US.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, that's right. So we are seeing great farm gate
prices here, similar story elsewhere as were elsewhere as well.
So most of the producers that we track in those
Big seven economies are looking at producing more thanks to
higher farm gates. So yeah, really it's a good news
story here for now, but it's what can we do
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with that improved cash flow to set our businesses up
for what looks like an increasingly global volatility or global
volatile time ahead. And you know we're seeing headlines on
the daily right now with even in regards to what's
happened over the weekend between Israel and Iran, and there
are some challenges absolutely at that mac pro level when
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it comes to geopolitics, which is in turn helping.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
To drive market Emma Higgins always good to chat. Great
to catch up with you at field days as well.
From Rabobank.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It As twenty six halfter twelve the US Golf Open.
If you've been following that, What a brute of a
course that one is. They reckon The average golfer wouldn't
break two hundred there, get in the rough, you'd never
get out at Oakmont. Well, American JJ Spawn has won
the US Golf Open, making birdie on the final two holes.
How good is that to win by two shots? Spawn
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finished at one under the only player in the field
to go under path through seventy two holes. Scotsman Robert
McIntyre finished alone in second one over, while our Ryan
Fox finished tied for nineteenth. Great effort on a very
difficult golf course. More in sport up next, it's the
Farmer Panel, Grant McCullum Andrew Hoggard. It is today's farmer panel.
(17:31):
In fact they are a farmer politician panel. Andrew Hoggard,
Manuwatu Cowcocky Associate ad Minister of Biosecurity and Grant McCullum,
MP for Northland, National MP for Northland. Now you two
have been having a sleepover. Should I be worried? Andrew?
You're in Hamilton today for the opening of the Trans
Tasman flights to and from Hamilton. Do you have the
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quasi Minister for the North Island, Grant McCullum there to
cut the ribbon?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
No?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
No, no, no, I think I'm the only one doing
ribbon cutting today.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Did you hear the private if he put me in
by place when you asked that question, he just said no.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I want to come back to the debate because I
thought a couple of the Nats in it were actually
quite outstanding. But let's talk about the issues of the day.
And Andrew Hoggard, you raise a good one. And I
watched Q and A yesterday with Jack Taman. I thought
it was one of the best Q and as I've
seen him do. He did have Steve abel on the
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Greens AG spokesperson who wants to shove agg back into
the ETS. All I can say is God save New Zealand.
If that lot get anywhere near the Treasury benches.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I couldn't agree more. I mean, one of the useful
things that, one of the few useful things that came
out of the heat Walker. You can know a debate
was some decent cost benefit analysis on what would happen,
and it quite clearly showed he Walker you can know
I was going to slash twenty percent of the sheet
and beef production. But Etes was even worse. So why
(19:03):
anyone would even think about considering taxing the most efficient,
emissions efficient farmers in the world is absolutely beyond me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Grant McCullum.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
It was shoved production off shore.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Absolutely, Grant McCallum. The Greens have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I could agree more, mate, And this will make you
smile about My daughter was there at Ease at the
Field Days on the weekends, so on Thursday, and when
Scott Willis got up, she stood up and asked how
to go at him about inheringance taxes. Whilst obviously I
think they're a stupid idea, I just wonder if this
might be some self inter just floating around on that question.
But you know, but that I'd be worried.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'd be worried. What's your back?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Hey, don't worry Grant. She's not awoken that like you.
She's extreme right, she's going to join Andrew in the
act party there. Look some of the announcements at field
Days we had, for instance, at the Rabobank breakfast on
when was that Thursday morning? Wasn't it? All the days
sort of melt into one, don't they. But Thursday morning
Nikola Wallace with with the wall carpets and Kyanger, Kayanger, Aura.
(20:06):
Is this a great move that will save the wall industry,
Andrew or is it a bit of virtue signaling?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Oh? Well, it's a good move. And it was even
more pleasing in that announcement that you know, the wall
carpet made it there on its merits, not any sort
of push from government, just making sure that officials were
looking wider than just their preconceived ideas. Will it change
the wool industry, it'll help, but I think that fundamental
(20:36):
change needs to occur within. There's some long standing issues there,
and I think farmers know what they are. So I
think there's you know, there needs to be a much
more united industry, and yeah, more of a streamlined approach
to how it all works.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Okay, But ultimately, guys and I know you're both COWCOCKI is,
although grant you used to be a sheep farmer, strong
wall's never going to come right until we get some
other significant use for it other than carpets.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
I agree, it was ultimately, Jane, when we ninety ninety three,
we had five thousand years, we sold it switched to
milking cows, right, and we were getting five dollars a
kilo for crossbread wall back then in ninety ninety three,
even if using inflation, what does that bring it probably
north of ten grand now ten dollars a kilo. Sorry,
so you know, it just shows and that's just that
(21:24):
that wasn't a lot of money back then either. So
it really there's going to be a fundamental shift and
finding some real value in crossbread wall. And it's great
to see the announce that we've done because it'll give
using it in our local houses and so forth, but
there has to be a fundamental shift in the value.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Of the product.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Andrew a couple of your announcements at field Days, one
around foot and mouth disease and one around nature credits,
which was the most exciting.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think in terms of both important. But for me,
the foot and mouth is probably the more critical one
in terms of getting that operational agreement and everyone on
the same page as to what we'd do if it were.
Hopefully it never happens, but to get here, my understanding
is those discussions have been happening for about eighteen years
(22:11):
or so.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So I said a.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Target when I got in that I wanted it sorted
in a year. Took slightly more than a year, but
got it done, so I was pretty bloody chuffed with that.
And yeah, nature credits stuff. It's sort of all about
trying to provide some value for those farmers that choose
not to plant parts of the farm out in exotic pine,
(22:37):
that there's their extra value there, recognizing the bid diversity
that occurs with natives, but also some of the other
projects that farmers might want to be taking, or catchment
care groups and the like might want to be doing
on their farms. Any landowner really and just you know,
apparently there's a big demand out there for companies and
(22:57):
philanthropists wanting to back projects like this. This is you know,
we're looking into how can we create a system and
what's government's role in it for being able to stand
something up in that space.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okay, Well, the one sensible comment I think Steve Abel
made on Q and a Grant McCallum was the fact
that we can't plant our way out of pollution with
pine trees. He's right on that.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Ultimately, yes, we've got to. Ultimately, if we're going to
address the whole warming challenges, we need to reduce our
missions over time. And that will happen. I think this
through technological change and the great great moves like the
solar more and more farmers using solar on farm, which
just makes so much sense. And we had an announcement
about that. Simon Wat's announced some advice and so forth
(23:42):
to help there, and ASB came out with a one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars interest free loans for five
years to build solar Those are the sort of things
that will shift the dial. The planting trees really only
just kick the can down the road. But putting my
blue Green hat on from the chair of the Blue
Greens National Party and I endorse the nature credits. It's
great to have that choice on the farm, so farmers
(24:03):
and get benefits for looking after the native bush on
their property.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Grant McCallum Northland cleaned up in the Ahuthenowa Awards.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
They sure did, and I was so proud of our
team that night the funer Own Night, Tom Trust from
up the coast ball Farming Outford group did an amazing
job and then young Kobe Warmington got the Young Mardy
Farmer of the Ward Year award. So proud of them all.
It's great they have some positive news coming out in
Orphan because we have got a lot of good things
(24:31):
happening up here and I'm delighted so and I'm looking
forward to going visiting the farm in the near future.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Just to finish on Rural Support Trust, Mike Greenland's team
raising over three hundred thousand dollars and they had that
big dinner slash debate on Wednesday night. Roast. Yeah, it
was a roast. Five hundred and forty three people in
the Claudlands Events Center. And I'll tell you what I thought.
A couple of nts excelled in the debating team. I
(24:59):
knew James Smega would be good because he's a he's
a guy on the way up. Grant if you're lucky
he's in the South Island or else he'd be the
North Island Minister. So he's the young guy on the
way up, but representing the North Island. And the debate,
I thought Sue's redmain was outstanding.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
I completely agree, did a fantastic job at some of
her lines. The one line are about about giving James
a hard time about hunting for a wife I thought
was really classic actually, But the best line of the
night did come to the Prime Minister. You know that,
don't you, Jamie when he when he talked talked up
the great radio host of the evening, the best bread
(25:35):
rural country host and the host of the rural radio
in the country and asked where Andy Thompson was. I
don't know that was quite quite the nights entertainment wasn't it, Jamie,
Were you there?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Andrew?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Was another function? I'm make sure I've had it next
year though, in.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
All serious James, a great function, great fundraise. I really
applaud everyone involved for a great course. So thanks to
everyone for what they did.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You need to get in early because I think they're
going to make this an annual event now and it
looks like it could be sell out. Well done to
all those involved in the Rural Support Trust three hundred
thousand dollars plus and it's going to be every center.
It's going to be needed. All right. Andrew Hogar, you
keep up your good work in your ministerial position and
grant you can live in hope to see you later bye, right,
(26:28):
see you boy. It's always good humor. Yes, the Prime
Minister did get a good shot and he has created
a monster though, let me tell you that. Up next,
it's Rural News and sports News. Pel duncan Agg communicator
of the Year at Field Days and the new Chief
Executive of Young Farmers.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I wish the.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Welcome back to the Country brought to you by Brent
great to catch up with those guys at field Days.
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Speaker 2 (28:14):
Good afternoon, Michelle you had a story on Glyphy Sate,
but I'm going to steal your thunder. Sorry, No, that's
all right. I think we'll leave that for Chris Russell
to talk for. Yeah, he's that Glypha Sate. Go to guy.
We will keep our power to dry that one. Look,
we caught up with the team at Rabobank had a
wonderful breakfast at field Days on Thursday morning. Nikola willis
ben picked and speaking. The Rabobank Good Deeds Promo is
(28:35):
open right now. So if you've got a worthy initiative
and your rural community, then the Rabobank Goods Deeds Competition
is all about making it happen. And it might be
your community hall, your sports club, your school needing a
bit of TLC, whatever, the rural community project, Rabobank's Good
Deeds Competition is here to help. You can enter now
(28:57):
and you can win five thousand dollars plus a day's
long to help get that project done. You're actually a
harder worker than me. I might send you off to
do that this year, unless, of course, there's a golf
course nearby. Michelle, I quite like doing a little bit
of line trimming and stuff. I'm really into that, right well,
you could be off to help the Rabobank team with
that one. If you want to enter the Rabobank Good
(29:18):
Deeds promo, I just go to the website. You can't
miss it on there. Or text good Good to five
double nine hour text number and Michelle will send you
back the direct link. To enter these your rural news.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Sport with AFCO, visit them online at AFCO dot co
dot nz.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And as I said earlier, American JJ Sporn has won
the US Golf Open, making birdies on the final two
holes to win by two shots. He finished at one
under par, the only player underpath through seventy shoe holes.
Scotsman Robert McIntyre finished alone and second at one over.
And let me see who was third. Victor Hoflin third
at two over. Ryan Fox tied four nineteenth. Shane van
(30:01):
gisburg Let me try that again. Shane van Gisbergen has
powered to a sixteen second victory at NASCAR's inaugural road
Race in Mexico City. The victory marks Van Gisburgen's second
one in the class, after triumphing on debut at Chicago
during twenty twenty three. And that is your sports news.
Up next, the Agricultural Communicator of the Year for twenty twenty.
(30:27):
I suppose it's twenty twenty four or is it five?
Is it retrospective or ford looking? I don't know. I'll
ask him, Phil Duncan. He's up next. Welcome back to
the country, Lenny Kravitz coming to New Zealand. Our next
guest is probably a big Lenny Kravitz fan, or is
(30:49):
he more sort of Jimmy Hendrix and Purple Hayes might
have been after being announced as the Agricultural Communicator of
the Year at Field Days, Phil Duncan, proud of you, mate.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Thank you, thank you very much. Nice to be following
in some the steps of some very very amazing people
such as yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well back in the day. Gee, two thousand and six,
I got a thousand bucks and I gave it to
the IHC because I was raising money around the London
Marathon for the IHC, so I thought i'd toss that
one and as well two thousand and six or seven,
I can't remember exactly when. Who are you giving your
prize money to, Phil.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I'm not sure yet. Now you're making me feel very good.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm pressuring you. My IHC carf and rural schemes are great,
great charity, phil.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I do like giving money to charity. I do actually
support quite a few, so we'll see how I go.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You deserve it because I know you've battled. You've battled
in the private industry up against government departments. You know,
I met Service and NIWA and you fought. You fought
to get a good product out there for farmers. So
now you keep it fill keep spending money on weather Watch.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I actually I mentioned you in my speech and the
very did I did, I said, I wanted to thank
Jamie McKay because he's been the person I've worked with
the longest, and we're the Watch. You're the first kind
of client that I had, and we've been working together
since two thousand and I think eight or nine around
about then. And and that you gave me three things.
You help me with people, you help me with politics,
(32:18):
and every now and then you tell me just to
calm down a bit. And that's that's that's the takeaway
I've here from you over all these years. And I
know many others out there in the rural sort of
media sector look up at you as someone.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Come on, fell, this is about you, not me.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Look well, I can't help us. All you help us all.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, even Thompson.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yes on the number one radio station. According to the
Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
No no, no, no, no no no. Anyhow, we will look.
I look short and sweet for the weather this week
heading into a long weekend for some, it won't be
for many farmers, but Martoiki weekend, it's going to be
a good week in the South Island. We need it,
we need it, Phil, It's it's been awful here.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I know you've got the winter air flowers kind of
hanging around for a bit long. Yet there's no sign
of that disappearing anytime soon. Definitely wintry weather from the
lower North Island southwards even the eastern side. High pressure
controls our weather for a few days, but we do
have another cold front coming in on Thursday Friday, so
Southland and Otago and Westland those areas might be a
(33:17):
bit unsettled going into the long weekend, but the next
big high rolls back in again by Friday night and
so Saturday and Sunday most places high pressure, light weds.
Perfect long weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Good on you, hey, fell Duncan got to go. Congratulations
for being the Ravens down I'll give them a good
plug because they've been a great supporters of this agricultural
communicator of the air. Really well deserved. You keep up
the good work.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Thanks Matte, thank you for all the very kind words.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Then we go Fell Duncan. Yep, we're the Watch dot
Co dot Nz. We're going to wrap it with the
new chief Executive of Young Farmers. Up next, Welcome back
to the Country, brought to you by Brandt first day
(34:04):
on the Tools for our next guest, Shane Galuley. He
is the new chief executive of Young Farmers Linda Coppersmith,
your predecessor, though Shane is still hanging around till after
the Grand Final and in the cargo in a couple
of weeks time.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
It's good to be able to have a nice hand
over process, and we wanted to make sure that we
could give Linda the scend off that she deserves down
the numbers, so it's good to have her, right.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah. When I heard or read or Michelle told me
that you were the chief executive of the new One,
I thought, I know this blog. I've chatted to him
before and in a past life you were with MP I.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've crossed paths a few times.
You've always been good to me, so hopefully that will continue.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's at a Jamie Mackay appreciation day to day on
the country. I wish I got I wish I got
that at home from the program director Shane. But anyhow,
never mind, it's nice to be loved at work. There
you go. Don't shake your head, Michelle. So tell me
about your background and and and why you came about
to get this job.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
So yeah, as you say, I've been a director at
Ministry of Primer Industries for nyon on seven years, which
is the I think I'm like the longest time I've
ever been in a single role, and I think before
they're a bit of an eclectic background, but mostly working
with growth companies, finance and investment. So I spent a
(35:34):
bit of time with the stock market and quite a
lot of time with New Zealand Trade and Enterprise and
a few other organizations as well.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You're very you're very well qualified. What attracted you to
the young farmers?
Speaker 8 (35:49):
I personally, I think it's the best role you can
have in the country. It's it's in the fruit and
fiber sector, which is the best sector in the in
the country, and it's working with you. It's an organizer
that has a long and proud history, but as young
at heart. It's built around youth. It's built about promoting
(36:10):
people as they start and begin their careers. So for me,
it's nothing but positivity. It's got a clear role to
play for the country, for our economy. It's a coal organization.
Cool people, the finalists are amazing. Why wouldn't you want
to work here?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And the collegiality is that a word here? It's very collegial.
Put it that way in terms of it that they
support each other even when they're competing against one another.
And the other thing I love about young farmers and gee,
I know lots of young farmers of the year now
because I've been around for so long myself, is that
when they finish or become too old thirty years plus,
(36:52):
they give back.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
They do, and I think that's it's the cause. Everybody
is here for the right reason. And you know, I
was lucky enough. Best part of my role with the MPI,
we were obviously a long term sponsor because we believe
in what it stood for. And so I've been part
of that family for about four or five years now,
(37:14):
and you're right, people just want to give back. People
never want to leave because it is just that collegiality.
It becomes a family and it's kind of people doing
the right thing for the right reasons. And who say
that the competition brings out the best. It showcases the
best of our people. It's in the heart of our
(37:34):
region and it really I think showcases what it means
to actually be in New Zealander, whether you're with EU
of Farmer or not. It just shows the really best
of who we are.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Okay, Hey, Grand Final coming up in them the Cargo
third to the fifth July. I understand if you want
to get a ticket to that Grand Final, be quickie
with this one, Shane. You need to be in by
Thursday of this week.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Yeah, totally get in there. It's one that you don't
want to massa, so get your tickets as quickly as
you can.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Good stuff. Hey, congratulations on your appointment. First day on
the tools today and I'm sure it'll be a seamless
transition from Linda to you. Shane Galuley, thank you very
much for your time. Is we're at a time at
this end, I'm not sure who's on the show tomorrow yet.
I think it's about time for an argument with Damian O'Connor.
(38:20):
We might see if we can do that.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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