May 25, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Toby Williams, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCallum, Tom Young, Phil Ropiha, and Phil Duncan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 6 (00:51):
A bad good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country,
brought to you by Brent wig Mortar. Kick it off
for you. I'm Jamie mccaid I mentioned that and black sheep.
We're going to talk about sheep today, not black ones,
mainly white ones, and how we can save our sheep industry.
In fact, Federated Farmers the Meat and Wool chair Toby Williams,
he's waiting patiently on hold, has just launched a campaign
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to save our Sheep sos. I'll talk to the Farmer
Politician Panel today. Andrew Hogard from ACT, Grant McCullum from Northland.
Tom Young's afco's National Livestock Manager record red meat prices,
but is it enough to save the industry from further decline.
(01:36):
As you'll find out from Toby Williams, some of the
numbers around the decline and our sheep block are frightening.
Phil rope Har joins us from still We've got a chainsaw,
another chainsaw to give away worth five hundred and fifty
five bucks. It's still Chainsaw Safety Awareness Week. And Pheil
Duncan on the weather, it's flooding. In Nelson Radio, Toby
(01:57):
Williams kicks off the show's from Federated Farmers and Toby
sos save our sheep.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How are you going to do that?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Good afternoon, Yeah, Jamie, good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Well, it's up to the government to make some changes
and the critical ones here around the etes unings. Otherwise
we run the risk of, you know, I'm not having
a sheep industry anymore. And I think all the irony
and this whole thing, Jamie is last week when we
heard the budget come out, they talked about our export
read recovery.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
We are the only country in the world that allows
one hundred percent carbon off setting through forestry within our etes.
Therein lies part of the problem, a good part of
the problem.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Yeah, it's really the main problem that and you know,
the never ending amount of units that are able to
be rested in it, so ETS is set up to
change behavior, produte his behavior. And the way it currently
functions is they can buy as many units as they're
like now and just keep cancing them out. And so
to keep doing that, they keep planting more pones, don't
you reckon?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
There's an element of the Emperor's New Clothes about this
carbon off setting system and the e ts.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
Yeah, one hundred percent of it's really a government sponsored
ponzi scheme. And those people who have got it early
and continue to maybe get in now, you know, are
really reaping the benefits of it. But we aren't seeing
demands of pine trees duty years down the future, considering
in the primary reduction at least anyway, forestry is the
one secret that's really struggling. We know we should have
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been utilizing more of these trees and on more processing
and making all these products. Now we seem to have
a housing shortage in Australia and New Zealand and a
pine tree excess, so surely the two should.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Be Now you have written an excellent opinion piece that'll
be on our website, The Coountry dot co dot NZ
and it's you, right, and I'm going to quote you say,
because this is well written, sheep are quickly becoming an
endangered species. Their main predators pines, pigs, and poor government policy.
You go on to write, I'm only forty four and
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in my lifetime alone, we've lost over two thirds of
antional flock.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah, it's a frightening number, Residan. The first big really
came with wag genomics, and when we can't argue that
we had a very inefficient sheep flock that we've turned
into one of the most productive effashion flocks in the world.
Yet we can't keep productivity increasing at the rate we
have and maintain an industry that has jobs and rural
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communities at its heart. So we need to have an
urgent changes to government policy to really make sure we
protect what we've got left.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, it's all very well, you shouting from the rooftops
save our sheep with your new campaign at Federated Farmers.
But as I said in the intro, how are you
going to do it? You're going to petition government to
change some of the rules.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Again, we're pushing for these easiest changes we have been
for about four or five years now, and we'll keep
frogging the way through that. You know, they went part
of the way with their announcers back in December, but
we are there's a work arounds people have found around that,
especially down south and or to Targo, that we're still
really concerned about. And we're hoping to meet with Race
with and EPI about getting the rules up so to
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make sure that only those people who are actually intending properly,
you know, in the fourth of December to be planting
those properties and pine trees are able to still do that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And sorry, you go, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I was just inhaling and about to exhale, and you
stopped on me that the thing is a lot of
the pines. I mean, let's be honest about it. Let's
not sugarcoat this. That are being painted, that are being painted,
that are being planted right now aren't for forestry production
because as you pointed out, unfortunately forestry our fourth biggest
industry and a very important industry for the primary sector,
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the returns aren't that flash at the moment. You wouldn't
be paying good money for land to plant in pines
if your only income stream was production forestry. I mean,
the carbon credits are very much the icing on the cake,
but we've got the settings wrong.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Yeah, it's exactly right. It's a massive subsidy. I think
the best thing that ever happened to us, as meaning
wall farmers and dairy farmers is when the subsidies came
off and we had to become more efficient. And you know,
with the carbon subsidy there, if people want to put
a pine tree in and there's the best use of
that land, it's going to get in the best return
over the next thirty years without carbon subsidies, then one
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hundred percent that tree should go into there. But the
problem is, I haven't found a single person telling me
in thirty years time that they're going to be making
tens of millions or billions of dollars out of forestry.
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Yeah, pines, pigs and poor government policy. And I think
the pigs, the feral pests are a real issue along
with the fire danger under climate change, under global warming,
that some of these carbon forests will present in twenty
or thirty years time. And I hate to say it, Toby,
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and I'm a cynic on this, one, but I reckon
there's a fair element of spray and walk away to
some of these plantations.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Ye, and that's what our big concerns are. There's no
you know, they can tell us, you're blue in the face,
that they intend to other harvest them, that they intend
to prune them. The reality is completely different. You know,
while that carbon subsit is there and you can make
a lot of money, doesn't take much for a change
of direction from the company that owns them to devest
those resources that are overseas, or have a change of
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heart around what they want to do, or actually they
continue claiming their carbon after year sixteen and hoping that
ETS collapses and then they don't have to pay the
units back. That doesn't happen. If the ETS actually functioning
properly and the.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Price continues to rise.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Then we are going to have these teas and people
just go, well, I can't afford to cut these trees
down now, and they will walk away. And we've seen,
you know what poor harvesting, and you know mislope failure
does on the East Coast after get brown and hale,
and you know, we're suddenly going to start bringing this
out to communities all around New Zealand and that's you know,
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Unfortunately for US politics is a three year cycle and
they don't look thirty years of the future.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Okay, just finally, you're based in the Gisbon region there,
you're kind of the carbon farming capital of the country there.
Someone sent me Toby over the weekend and I'm just
trying to drag it up on the phone now but
I can't multitask some.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Pictures of it. Is it who he rew a station?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Who?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Who are you row a station?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
And some of that land I'm looking at and the
photos the person kindly sent to me is rolling at
best sort of country and I'm thinking that should be
grazing an animal to grow some meat or some milk
or some fiber.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Yeah, the irony of that farm. I ran a massive
campaign about five years ago to stop those farms trying
to be sold to an offshore company and we even
had a position go to Parliament and carry all and
came and collected it from us and took it down
there and we met with the Primary Reduction selecuvity over this.
But their hands are tired. That was sold under the
special foroshs Est, which thankfully has been booted. But if
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that farm was anywhere else in his head and not
remote up east coast, it was is it the town here,
or it was going in the White keadow, it would
be in dairy farm. That's how good that country is.
It's just the fact that it's isolated and the special
Forest Chef gad six week rubber stamp to come and
put pine dries into it. And you know, it's a
tough blow over the East Coast. And I said, we
still cry about that now. And that was one of
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one of our old family farms and my grandfather sold
through the dispensers in the late nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's criminal.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Now there we go, Toby, good luck with your campaign
to save our sheep. We're going to talk about falling
sheep numbers. That's Toby Williams by the way, from Federated
Farmers the Meat and Wool Chair. We're going to talk
about falling livestock numbers with Tom Young, AFC's National Livestock
Manager record unbelievably good prices for lamb and beef, even
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mutton at the moment, but is it enough to save
the capacity in our red meat industry? But up next
it is the Farmer Politician Panel Andrew Hoggard out of
the Manor two. He's down in Southland today. I think
Grant Cullum National's Northland MP. What are they doing to
stop the carbon farming? And before all the forestry people
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text in and abuse me for abusing forestry, I'm not
at all. There's so many places in this country where
we could plant even on farms, you know, the south
facing hills, go and plant them in pine trees. I
know why people plant them on the north facing hills
because they grow a wee bit quicker. But it's the
wrong place. We need to have animals on those hills.
(10:29):
Don't start me on it anyhow. We'll talk to the
old farmer politician panel next on the Country, which is
brought to you by Brandt and jin Wigmore today.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is it gold black and gold BAGMA.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Today's panel is a farmer politician panel. Andrew Hogart Associate
Minister of Agriculture, I think Minister for Biosecurity Act List
MP and Grant mcnational McCullum. He's not a Minister for
anything just yet, but Grant Andrew wanted to talk about
the regulatory standard spill. That sounds pretty boring to me,
(11:22):
I would sooner talk about your underpants. But that's much
more solacious.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Not really.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
The inferior course to the rather underhanded and cheap reference
to what their Minister of Finance were clothes you which
you was wearing where they were made. I have thought
that was completely unnecessary and demeaning. What the fact we
had to having this discussion says a lot about that
pick today, mate, But just for your information, because a
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few of us got brassed off with the back the
hell with that what happened there? And so we decided
to put together a video. Chris Bishop kept it off
say what he was wearing that the media word interested
and and then so myself Mike Butterg interviewed me and
Carl Bates and we were interviewed about what we were wearing.
And just for your information today, I've got rodding, I've
got my Rod and gun year on and my R
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and n Williams you but hang.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
On, you guys in the nets Grant are insisting that
the schools wear carpet or wear wool carpet. Surely Nichola
could support a New Zealand designer like that other great
leader Jacinda used to well, I know she does.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
She wears all sorts of clothes from our own own designers.
But the thing that you're going to cheapen something as
important as the budget by criticizing with the clothes of
the Minister Finance wears. Did anyone ever criticize Bilinguish for
what he was wearing and asked him where a suit
was made? I cannot recall. It reminds me of that
great quote Jamie, you're a big JFK historian fan, where
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he said in his last speech, no one ever asked
what Lindon and I wear well, And it's true. I mean,
it's always something they used to attack big you taged
women on which is crazy. Now we got to move
on from the fifties and sixties and that sort of
language and that stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, and just for the record, Bill English was always
a bit of a sloppy dress of shirt hanging out
down the old brown suit. But a very smart mind
Andrew Hoggard the regulatory Standards bill that does sound incredibly boring.
Let's talk about what you're doing down in Southland today,
because you're meeting with Graund Smartes at groundswell.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, just firstly on the regulatary standards.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Bell.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I know it may seem boring and a lot of
people getting their knickers in a twist over it, but
all I can say is if that had been around
while I was at Fed's, it would have made our
life so much simpler. So for all those people involved
in farming and other areas where they just want to
get on with life, I'd suggest you pay attention to it,
put a submission in, because it is about making your
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lives easier from regulatory overreach. But you're down Southland meeting
with Groundswell and Feds. Then I am meeting with the
MEAs and then function with Beef and lamb. Farmers are
invited to come along. It's a be at three o'clock.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, and at the trusty old crowdon Lodge and Gore.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What a great venue?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Will you now when you when you're meeting with the
ground Swell boys, Laurie and Bryce and co. Will you
have a week Grant McCullum dole you're putting putting needles into.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Probably I think they've pretty much used there as a
pincushion over the last week. If the email anything to
go by.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah, Well are you cuddling up to ground swell because
you're going to have competition in the cuddling up to
ground swell steaks Andrew Haggard because Winnie and Shane are
wanting to do it as well. They want out of
the Paris Climate Agreement. I think David Seymour was heading
that way. There's only Grant and as woke mates in
the National Party who want to stay in Well.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I don't cuddle up to anyone. Generally, I'll go along
and tell people what I think. And basically I mean
when I'm in town, I try to meet with as
many farming groups and p as possible. That's part of
the job is to be informed, to hear all the
different opinions. You know, I think there's probably a little
too much focus on Paris quite frankly, I mean the outcomes,
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actually what happens here in New Zealand. Are we forced
to pay a price all these other things? So to me,
Paris can be a little bit of a sideshow. It's
more important things like the Zero Carbon Act and Act
was the only party to vote against that back in
the day. So yeah, and just everything and see what happens.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
And Jamie, one of the things that I get really
frustrated about as I drive around Northland is seeing all
the good clean country that went into pine trees is
going into pine trees, and just I get more feedback
on that than anything else that Really it disappoints me
and it makes me feel sick. Actually so and national
the only part of the campaigned on and then in
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the process of delivering on restricting carbon farming to steep
country and getting rid of the whole Oh.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, I get all that, Grant, But I mean,
hang on, you could have fast forward the legislation just
like you did around the pay equity, and you could
you could have knocked carbon farming on the head there
on the spot.
Speaker 9 (16:12):
Ami, Listen, it's already happened in the sense the Prime
Minister came out on the fourth of December and said
from this date on, if you decide to buy some
land with a post that date for carbon farming, that
doesn't mean the right criteria. You won't be able to
get the credits, right.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Bollocks, Grant, bollocks, grand what about all the people with
the invoices for seedlings who are getting into it?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Boots and all, I'm where, aren't I Andrew.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You wait, you wait, actually know there's apparently not that
many invoices in there for seedlings. But yeah, talking to
Todd about this, so look, well we'll see what happens.
But you know, I think there's a lot of people
expect government to be able to snap their fingers and
make things happen. There's actually a pretty prescribed process, and
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I know it's annoying to people, but actually, when the
shoes on the other foot and the other lot are
in charge, we actually want those processes to occur. So
urgency should only be used we are necessary, And yeah,
we don't want to basically be throwing the system away.
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We do need to follow a process.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Grant, let's talk about something we can all agree on.
In the budget that was good news, and this is
this new investment boost tax credit for businesses. It effectively
means you can write another twenty percent off in year
one direct.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
On top of the current existing depreciation rate. You get
another twenty percent in year one, which is massive. I
think you'll find there'll be a good number of particularly
the farming sector, as they're looking towards the end of
their financial years, coming up toward at the field days,
coming up and that sort of thing. They can lower
their tax bill by going and buying that new tract
or siloe wagon or investing a new plant on the
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farm to help improve their businesses. This is their opportunity
to do that, and this is what we're doing to
help stimulate the Alps add to the stimulating of the economy,
in particular the rule sector, which once again is leading
us out of the challenging economic times we're in.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Grunt.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Do you agree with the HOSC that the main road
north of Auckland there should be at one hundred and
ten all the way. He's not happy because he can
only drive five kilometers at one hundred and ten when
he's heading to his Auckland or north of Auckland mansion.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
I know, I had to smile that we will get
their events. I'm sure with the rest of that process.
But yes, the poor old host, he's going to have
to watch out for the police for a bit longer
and stay under one hundred k limit of post the tunnels.
But I'm sure hopefully we'll get there and the finish
it says the process once again. And Andrews said, these
things in government have a process to follow and to
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get it all run ticked off, and then we'll be
able to do one hundred and ten on that great
piece of road and then build the next one. Jamie, Okay,
the Greens don't want to.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Do Okay, right, Andrew Hoggard, thanks for your time. I
know you're halfway between and Picago and Gore and that's
a nice flat piece of road, so don't speed on that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
One hundred k's is to speed one hundred, Yeah, and enjoy.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You're meeting with the ground swell boys this afternoon and
feeds and beef and lamb.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
See you boys.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Twenty nine after to our thanks lads. Alrighty oh, lots
of feedback coming in Glenn. And this is a good
text actually, says hi Jamie. Just as long as those
of us who have planted dirty gullies and haven't dropped
any stock in it's don't get shafted by changes to
ets exactly Glenn, right tree, right place. There's so many
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places on most farms, especially the extensive ones, where you
can plant some pine trees, fill your boots on some
carbon credits. Let's not plant productive food producing land into
pine trees.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Doug Textan and said, foreign, foreign owned trees are going
to be the death of Otago and Southland. It's rather grim.
But I'll tell you what, Doug, there's a lot of
them being plu hunted.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Umm.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Here's another one, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Every sheep and beef farmer should plant say two thirds
of their farms into native trees. Pine tree problem sorted. Well, no,
not really, text, it's totally impractical to do that, very expensive,
very time consuming, and that's not a good use of land.
Here's another one, land corpse Munga Minghi. I hope I
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got that right. Station and Rapparoa is going into trees.
The Angus cow herd is getting sold at Talpo sale
yards this week. A magnificent food producing station. God, I'm
getting angry. Look Land Corp or what do they call
themselves now, PAMU need a thank you, Michelle need to
kick up the ass. They shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Cheese.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
They're going against their own government policy. Up next, the
red meat industry record prices, but will it be enough
to save it? Tom Young from AFCO.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Mene dollars.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Mine.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Let's have a look at the state of the nation
when it comes to the red meat industry. And it's
looking pretty rosy at the moment. Lamb nine dollars, Beef
eight dollars, Mutton nearly five dollars. Tom Young National Livestock
managed for AFCO. I reckon, you've got to have like
a ten dollar winter Lamb contract out in the market.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Tell me, you tell me you do?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Oh hi, Jamie, Well, no, I have an excity. But
I'm getting close. So we've got a we've got a
contract that is a guaranteed minimum price that maxes out
at nine dollars seventy in the South Island at the moment.
So yeah, we're getting there and of the market. Obviously,
if the market goes there and the farmers on a
guaranteed price will we'll get the spot price of the day.
So perhaps it we'll get to ten.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Who knows, well, let's hope.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
So look, when I look at Lamb nine dollars or
nudging nine dollars, it was six bucks last year at
some stage of the season, So that's like a fifty
percent increase. Mutton a wee while ago was worth next
to nothing, you know, now a big use, well over
one hundred bucks. But beef eight dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Yeah, so the prices of all the stock classes are
so some of them are obviously at record levels, so
hopefully farmers are enjoying that. What is a process of
what we're experiencing is I guess a decline in numbers
that we haven't seen for quite some time. So both
islands are well behind on both beef and ovine kelly.
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So it's probably just getting harder and harder to run
these plants sufficiently with the lack of volume. And I
think part of the reason we're seeing a big demand,
well a big spike and price too, is simply not
the meat available both out of New Zealand but also globally,
so obviously that's pushing the price along quite quite steadily.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Well, was it Beef and Lamb's Economic service They do
their yearly forecast or whatever, and they were picking that
the lamb crop crop available for slaughter was going to
be down by a million lambs by the sounds of things,
that could be even more than that.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, So the South Island years of e it's
about one point one million behind last year already, and
the U kills up a weed it too, which was
concerning because obviously, you know, if you're killing news now
they're not going to have a lamb and spring. So
I would say next season in the South Island you'll
see another decline in the volume of lambs that are available.
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In the North Island. Lamb kill there's ever so slightly
ahead of last year. But pre Christmas when it was dry,
anecdotally there were more lambs moved to the South Island store.
So the North Island's in for a long winter. We're
already seeing it now, to be honest, we've taken a
lot of capacity of from both islands and so it's
it's going to be a long drawn out winter for.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Us Land use change.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
We think of Jeremy Rooks and as carbon farming mates
gobbling up some good sheper and beef pastoral land.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He love that. And then of course this talk of
dairy conversions.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
They may not necessarily be on a sheep farm, but
they may be on a farm that had beef cattle
on there. If that comes to pass, even less red
meat available.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, this industry probably is
is really, I guess, at a crossroads with far far
too much capacity in both islands. If something needs to
happen at some point to make it more efficient. I
think that it's probably well, it's not only costing processes
a lot of money, it costs farmers a lot of
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money too to have this inefficiency because someone has to
pay for it. So if we could lose capacity some
or not lose sorry, lose capacity somewhere and fill these
plants up more and makes for much more efficient industry,
which effect you look, effectively means more profit for both
farmers and processes. So it's not particularly enjoyable at this
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point in time.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Tom Young with meat from f CO and no bad
red meat slaughter pun here. But the meat industry has
always been a bit of a cut throat industry. When
it comes to competition, you're literally cutting each other's throats.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Yeah, it's a tough game. And you know the market's
made from day to day, even week to week, so
you've got to be all over your cost to run
you factories, have a fishing factories, you've got to have
your fixed costs under control, and you've got to sell
your product well and maximize a return so you've got
a good schedule, otherwise.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
You're not going to be able to buy the product
in the paddocks.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
So yeah, it's I guess the strongest will survive the
slowest challenge.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Well, enjoy the good prices while they're here. Will they
last into next season?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I think it's every chance they will. But you know
it's a long way. It's a long way to look
that far out, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Tom Young, I'll look forward to catching up with you
at field days. I'll shout you a beare as long
as you shout meat lunch at the f CODE ten
best lunch at field days.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, no problem at all, thanks Tom.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
It is twenty two from one. Lots of feedback coming in.
The chief executive of Palmu is Mark Leslie, a Reparoa
born and bred local, might be worth a chat.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, that's a good text. We'll chase them up.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
They shouldn't be selling farm's wholess bowless to go to trees,
or I don't think they should be. Here's another one,
and this is where the loophole in the system is.
Just recently a very beautiful rolling country sheep farm in
southern Southland, a rolling hill country a sheep farm in
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southern Southland was sold to us said in an inverted
Commas farmer. Then within a week it was sold again
to be blanket planted into pines. Absolute bullshit, says the Texter.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
It is absolute bullshit. Mcnational needs to do something about it. Anyhow,
you're getting stuck into him. I feeling sorry for him.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Actually.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Our next Rural News with Michelle Sports News before the
end of their We've got a chainsaw.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's sitting in the studio.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
We've got one to give away with steel Chainsaw Safety
Awareness Week and Phil Duncan on the weather.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
It's flooding in Nelson.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Mc geez it is eighteen or nineteen away from one
one or t'other. Here's Michelle with the latest and rural news.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
The country's world news with Cod Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brand. Visit steel Ford dot co
dot nz for your local stockist.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
And crop manager. Jack Hadden has won the Pacoe twenty
twenty five Young Grower regional title. Hadden, who oversees a
coulieflower and cabbage operation for Ballet Brothers, pitched his skills
against three fellow contestants to take the title on Friday,
just being He will now go on to compete against
six other regional winners in the Horticulture New Zealand's National
Young Grow of the Year competition, which will be hard
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in Christchurch in September. And that's rural news. We have
more at the Country dot co dot nz. It He's
Jamie was Sports Sport with AFCO.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Visit them online at AFCO dot co dot nz.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I had a quick look at the twelve thirty sports headlines.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They were so boring.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I've reverted back to the midday Sports check which is
far more interesting. Apologies if you've already heard it. Marcus
Armstrong's been the best of the New Zealanders and twenty
first after a challenging Indy five hundred on a wet
day at the Brickyard. Scott Dixon finished twenty third and
last after mechanical issues. Scott McLaughlin crashed out in the
(28:32):
warm up lap. Ten drivers failed to finish. Alex Palal
won the race for the first time. Chris Wood's Nottingham
Forrest lost one NELT to Chelsea on the final day
of football's Premier League, meaning they finished seventh, one point
shy of qualifying for the Champions League. And right down
the bottom if I scroll down here a high jumper.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
He's such a great athlete.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
This Hamish Kerr won the latest Diamond League meet on
account back in a rocco after leaping to two point
two five meters. That's a weey bit lower than he
went in the Olympics. And Michelle, you were just saying
to me when you wandered in here about all the
lots of great sport over the weekend. But I must
say the women's rugby was pretty damn good.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
Wasn't it absolute best game of the entire weekend? And
I can't believe it's not really been talked about before that,
to be honest, but was amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Like that woman, young lady is like a jack in
the box. She just turns up everywhere. Porscha woodman. You know, geez,
she's getting a bit long in the tooth. There's plenty
of life left than her. But no, no, man, that
was good. And the chiefs, oh, our Highlanders have to
face them this weekend and Dunedin there, and who's going
(29:45):
to be first five for the All Blacks Red Hot
Damien Mackenzie or Bowden Barrett? What a headache that is
for Raser. Up next, we're going to tell you how
you can win a chainsaw I love this time of
the year leading into field days because I always get
to catch up with this bloke and I always get
(30:07):
to give away cool things like steel chainsaws. His name
is Phil Ropie Harf from Still It is still Chainsaw
Safety Awareness Week.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Phil.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
We've got five chainsaws and two safety packs.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
To give away.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
We need to encourage blokes and shel is out there
to be careful when they're on the end of it
a chain saw. It's a serious piece of kit.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Good afternoon, Jamie, and good afternoon to everyone that's listening.
Jamie's quite right. You do need to make sure that
you show some respect for the job you're doing with
a chainsaw, and you know the key messages. Just take
some time to check everything's right. And you know you've
got to think three things yourself. Make sure you've got
the right gear. And there's that safety pack for you, Jamie.
Pack boots, sorry chaps, ear muffs and glasses. And you
(30:50):
also want to think perhaps with some boots that minimum
steel cap and if you're under can it be a
helmet as well? And know your own ability. Don't be
over confident. If you're not sure, you're probably right. Get
someone who can get the job done until you can
take over or even perhaps lot it's in training and
still uses rural training solutions nationwide. And of course your equipment.
Make sure it's sharp, make sure it works properly, particularly
(31:12):
the safety pieces service at once. Again, there will be
a shock for some of the people listening, I'm sure,
and also know how the SUL reacts.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Who are the biggest menaces on the end of a chainsaw?
And I say this not in a lighthearted manner, but
I know some people weekend warriors get out there and
they're determined to chop down a forest with very little preparation.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah, and it's interesting, and that preparation's key, you know, environment,
make sure there's no other people around you. You know,
these are the things you need to do. Make sure
there's no hazards that are going to get you, and
know about the material you've been cut. But the thing is,
when we're talking about where the greatest danger is, sometimes
it's not necessarily the newer users, because they are paying
a lot of attention and trying to.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Do it right.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Sometimes it's those of us who have been decades born
with the chains are in our hands, but never been
taught how to do it, and sometimes we are the
biggest danger to ourselves. And unfortunately I have put some
farmers in that category.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Yeah, maybe myself as well. Spent a lot of time
on the chainsaw in my younger years.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Fell.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Look, we gave away on Friday Show, or we threw
it out there on Friday Show. We had the still
let me get it right, we had the MS one
eight two chainsaw. It's worth five hundred and fifty five dollars.
We had a still safety pack worth nearly three hundred
dollars to give away.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Who was their winner?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Okay, I'm pleased to announce the winner of the chainsaw
safety pack was Richard Ross from Northland.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Good on you, Richard.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And today we've got a still MS one eight two chainsaw,
as I said, valued at five hundred and fifty five dollars.
These things have got what like a forty centimeter what's
that an inches?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Phil guide bar?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Sixteen inches in the old money there, Jami.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Yeah, people still think of them like that. So look,
it's a meaningful chainsaw. This is handy for smaller jobs
on the farm, but'd be great for around the section
at home. It's she's a cracker.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
Saw, yeah, I think everyone needs one of these, and
you can either win one with us on the country
and if you go into your friendly steelshop you'll find
there's some great packages available on all our sort of
smaller to medium saws. And I think on these ones,
if you have to buy one because you have won it,
you can get a free bar and two chains with it,
which is worth a fairbit against the value.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Of that sort.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right now, what's today's question?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Here it is in twenty twenty six. Now remember that's
next year, twenty twenty six, not this year. How many
years will have still been making chainsaws for?
Speaker 6 (33:31):
To enter go to the Country dot co dot nz
our website, fill in the entry form with the correct
answer to our daily question in twenty twenty six? How
many years will still have been making chainsaws for? Iden
hazarding a guest fel Because I don't even know the
answer that it's a round number, right.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
I'd say it's a yeah, side number.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
A big round number with spoon feeding you the answers, Hey,
what are you up to at field days?
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Well, we're going to have a change to our displays
is going to be bier and better and it gives
us a wonderful opportunity to show off our innovation. And
as you know, a lot of our innovation has been
on battery product. I think we have about twelve categories
of those, let alone how many models in each category,
So we are by far ready the biggest and these
types of tools. But we're also developing petrol as well,
So come along and see how we can carry that
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bat and forward as well. And of course we'll be
involved in a bit of sponsorship of toys that my
pleasure to be involved with wigging down there at the
Silver Spades and the Golden Flyer. So yeah, we're looking
forward to field days, all right.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Philo Robiha from still A look forward to catching you
at field days.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Go well, my.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Friend, absolutely, thank you, Jamien, thank you for everyone that's listening.
And stay safe with the chainsaws out there.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Indeed, okay, go to the website. Answer that simple question,
big big round number for three digits and you could
win the still MS one eight two chainsaw value at
five hundred and fifty five dollars up. Next, we wrap
Monday Show with Phil Duncan from weather Watch.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Raine.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Wrapping the Country with Phil Duncan, Monday's resident weather expert
from weatherwatch dot co dot NZ Phil. I see there's
a bit of flooding going on in Nelson.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, we've had a bit of rain moving through, a
little large low in the Tasman that's moving on in
and in fact it doesn't even arrive till Thursday. But
this is the outer edges of the cold front, first
cold front to arrive. Hopefully some of that rains easing,
but now the North Island's going to be seeing some
of it move through. Might even be a few heavy
falls coming in tonight, isolated thunderstorm or to at the
(35:37):
top of the country coming off the Tasman Sea. But
it's really sort of Wednesday, the northwest is kickin. Rain
comes into the western side of the country again and
that's kind of the main low pressure zone coming through,
which means Thursday and Friday, especially Thursday, a lot of
low pressure over the North Island, lots of downpours and
some thunderstorms around on Thursday coming off the Tasman mostly
(36:00):
for the top half of the North Island off the Tasman,
but might brush the top part of the South Island
as well, And by the time we get to Friday,
in the long weekend, big strong autumn or wintry southwesterly
flow across the country. Lots of showers along the west
and the south of the country. And if you live
in the east Canterbury, for example, wided Upper Hawke's Bay,
(36:21):
maybe Gismond as well, those areas are not going to
be seeing very much wet weather over the next several days.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Mind you, at Queen's Birthday weekend signals as the calendar
would dictate the beginning of winter, we can't complain may
have been very good.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, it's been warmer than average by one to two
degrees And some people don't think that's a lot, but
that when you measure out all the highs and lows
across the month and it comes up one to two
degrees above normal, that is actually quite a lot above
what we would normally be getting. So it's been warmer. Airflows,
a lot of subtropical winds, a lot of airflows out
of Australia, and the Southerlys we had had had not
(36:56):
come from Antarctica, a lot of them have actually come
from just out of the southern part of Australia. So yeah,
it's been warmer than average. Even if we've been having
cold days in some areas and some cold nights. Definitely
been a warmer than average airflow coming into the country
for the past few months, not even just the last
few weeks, but the past few months now.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
You had a bit of a home handyman's accident, got
your old face a bit beat up. Are you back
in front of the video yet or are you still
a face for radio?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Back in front of the TV screen today on YouTube?
It was a little bit nervous doing it, but lots
of makeup and you can barely see a thing, So
it's amazing what you can do with light cameras and makeup.
But yeah, it's a bit of a journey. Still got
a bit while to go to fully recover from it.
But it's just one of those things that, Yeah, as
you get older, you learn to be a little more careful.
(37:43):
And also while we talk, my condolences to you, Jamie
with the loss of your close mate last week, and
we're all thinking of you at the moment and obviously
the family as well.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Yeah, thanks very much, Phil really appreciate that. Yep, we're
all Rowan for all Rowan great mates. But we're going
to farewell. I'm in style. It's Riversdale on Friday afternoon.
If the bloke is running the pubs listening, stock up
because Rowan wanted a Friday funeral. We'll catch you back tomorrow.
Damian O'Connor on the show. Haven't had an argument with
(38:13):
him for a while. We'll do so tomorrow any time.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to friend, you're specialist in
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Catch you all the latest from the land. It's the
Country Podcast with Jamie mcguy. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
I love the jealous lovers.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Dad, I'll stay't have me back, it's too far now.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
My mama gave me back, making mom go rattle and from.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Wine fat the fall.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Then it will be.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
In your line every I'm doing and so I'm doing Ansode,
I have your time.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
A bad good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country,
brought to you by Brent wig Mortar. Kick it off
for you. I'm Jamie mccaid I mentioned that and black sheep.
We're going to talk about sheep today, not black ones,
mainly white ones, and how we can save our sheep industry.
In fact, Federated Farmers the Meat and Wool chair Toby Williams,
he's waiting patiently on hold, has just launched a campaign
(01:16):
to save our Sheep sos. I'll talk to the Farmer
Politician Panel today. Andrew Hogard from ACT, Grant McCullum from Northland.
Tom Young's afco's National Livestock Manager record red meat prices,
but is it enough to save the industry from further decline.
(01:36):
As you'll find out from Toby Williams, some of the
numbers around the decline and our sheep block are frightening.
Phil rope Har joins us from still We've got a chainsaw,
another chainsaw to give away worth five hundred and fifty
five bucks. It's still Chainsaw Safety Awareness Week. And Pheil
Duncan on the weather, it's flooding. In Nelson Radio, Toby
(01:57):
Williams kicks off the show's from Federated Farmers and Toby
sos save our sheep.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How are you going to do that?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Good afternoon, Yeah, Jamie, good afternoon.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Well, it's up to the government to make some changes
and the critical ones here around the etes unings. Otherwise
we run the risk of, you know, I'm not having
a sheep industry anymore. And I think all the irony
and this whole thing, Jamie is last week when we
heard the budget come out, they talked about our export
read recovery.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
We are the only country in the world that allows
one hundred percent carbon off setting through forestry within our etes.
Therein lies part of the problem, a good part of
the problem.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Yeah, it's really the main problem that and you know,
the never ending amount of units that are able to
be rested in it, so ETS is set up to
change behavior, produte his behavior. And the way it currently
functions is they can buy as many units as they're
like now and just keep cancing them out. And so
to keep doing that, they keep planting more pones, don't
you reckon?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
There's an element of the Emperor's New Clothes about this
carbon off setting system and the e ts.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
Yeah, one hundred percent of it's really a government sponsored
ponzi scheme. And those people who have got it early
and continue to maybe get in now, you know, are
really reaping the benefits of it. But we aren't seeing
demands of pine trees duty years down the future, considering
in the primary reduction at least anyway, forestry is the
one secret that's really struggling. We know we should have
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been utilizing more of these trees and on more processing
and making all these products. Now we seem to have
a housing shortage in Australia and New Zealand and a
pine tree excess, so surely the two should.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Be Now you have written an excellent opinion piece that'll
be on our website, The Coountry dot co dot NZ
and it's you, right, and I'm going to quote you say,
because this is well written, sheep are quickly becoming an
endangered species. Their main predators pines, pigs, and poor government policy.
You go on to write, I'm only forty four and
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in my lifetime alone, we've lost over two thirds of
antional flock.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah, it's a frightening number, Residan. The first big really
came with wag genomics, and when we can't argue that
we had a very inefficient sheep flock that we've turned
into one of the most productive effashion flocks in the world.
Yet we can't keep productivity increasing at the rate we
have and maintain an industry that has jobs and rural
(04:23):
communities at its heart. So we need to have an
urgent changes to government policy to really make sure we
protect what we've got left.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, it's all very well, you shouting from the rooftops
save our sheep with your new campaign at Federated Farmers.
But as I said in the intro, how are you
going to do it? You're going to petition government to
change some of the rules.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Again, we're pushing for these easiest changes we have been
for about four or five years now, and we'll keep
frogging the way through that. You know, they went part
of the way with their announcers back in December, but
we are there's a work arounds people have found around that,
especially down south and or to Targo, that we're still
really concerned about. And we're hoping to meet with Race
with and EPI about getting the rules up so to
(05:08):
make sure that only those people who are actually intending properly,
you know, in the fourth of December to be planting
those properties and pine trees are able to still do that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And sorry, you go, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I was just inhaling and about to exhale, and you
stopped on me that the thing is a lot of
the pines. I mean, let's be honest about it. Let's
not sugarcoat this. That are being painted, that are being painted,
that are being planted right now aren't for forestry production
because as you pointed out, unfortunately forestry our fourth biggest
industry and a very important industry for the primary sector,
(05:43):
the returns aren't that flash at the moment. You wouldn't
be paying good money for land to plant in pines
if your only income stream was production forestry. I mean,
the carbon credits are very much the icing on the cake,
but we've got the settings wrong.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Yeah, it's exactly right. It's a massive subsidy. I think
the best thing that ever happened to us, as meaning
wall farmers and dairy farmers is when the subsidies came
off and we had to become more efficient. And you know,
with the carbon subsidy there, if people want to put
a pine tree in and there's the best use of
that land, it's going to get in the best return
over the next thirty years without carbon subsidies, then one
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hundred percent that tree should go into there. But the
problem is, I haven't found a single person telling me
in thirty years time that they're going to be making
tens of millions or billions of dollars out of forestry.
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Yeah, pines, pigs and poor government policy. And I think
the pigs, the feral pests are a real issue along
with the fire danger under climate change, under global warming,
that some of these carbon forests will present in twenty
or thirty years time. And I hate to say it, Toby,
(06:52):
and I'm a cynic on this, one, but I reckon
there's a fair element of spray and walk away to
some of these plantations.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Ye, and that's what our big concerns are. There's no
you know, they can tell us, you're blue in the face,
that they intend to other harvest them, that they intend
to prune them. The reality is completely different. You know,
while that carbon subsit is there and you can make
a lot of money, doesn't take much for a change
of direction from the company that owns them to devest
those resources that are overseas, or have a change of
(07:20):
heart around what they want to do, or actually they
continue claiming their carbon after year sixteen and hoping that
ETS collapses and then they don't have to pay the
units back. That doesn't happen. If the ETS actually functioning
properly and the.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Price continues to rise.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Then we are going to have these teas and people
just go, well, I can't afford to cut these trees
down now, and they will walk away. And we've seen,
you know what poor harvesting, and you know mislope failure
does on the East Coast after get brown and hale,
and you know, we're suddenly going to start bringing this
out to communities all around New Zealand and that's you know,
(07:56):
Unfortunately for US politics is a three year cycle and
they don't look thirty years of the future.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Okay, just finally, you're based in the Gisbon region there,
you're kind of the carbon farming capital of the country there.
Someone sent me Toby over the weekend and I'm just
trying to drag it up on the phone now but
I can't multitask some.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Pictures of it. Is it who he rew a station?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Who?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Who are you row a station?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
And some of that land I'm looking at and the
photos the person kindly sent to me is rolling at
best sort of country and I'm thinking that should be
grazing an animal to grow some meat or some milk
or some fiber.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Yeah, the irony of that farm. I ran a massive
campaign about five years ago to stop those farms trying
to be sold to an offshore company and we even
had a position go to Parliament and carry all and
came and collected it from us and took it down
there and we met with the Primary Reduction selecuvity over this.
But their hands are tired. That was sold under the
special foroshs Est, which thankfully has been booted. But if
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that farm was anywhere else in his head and not
remote up east coast, it was is it the town here,
or it was going in the White keadow, it would
be in dairy farm. That's how good that country is.
It's just the fact that it's isolated and the special
Forest Chef gad six week rubber stamp to come and
put pine dries into it. And you know, it's a
tough blow over the East Coast. And I said, we
still cry about that now. And that was one of
(09:18):
one of our old family farms and my grandfather sold
through the dispensers in the late nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's criminal.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Now there we go, Toby, good luck with your campaign
to save our sheep. We're going to talk about falling
sheep numbers. That's Toby Williams by the way, from Federated
Farmers the Meat and Wool Chair. We're going to talk
about falling livestock numbers with Tom Young, AFC's National Livestock
Manager record unbelievably good prices for lamb and beef, even
(09:46):
mutton at the moment, but is it enough to save
the capacity in our red meat industry? But up next
it is the Farmer Politician Panel Andrew Hoggard out of
the Manor two. He's down in Southland today. I think
Grant Cullum National's Northland MP. What are they doing to
stop the carbon farming? And before all the forestry people
(10:07):
text in and abuse me for abusing forestry, I'm not
at all. There's so many places in this country where
we could plant even on farms, you know, the south
facing hills, go and plant them in pine trees. I
know why people plant them on the north facing hills
because they grow a wee bit quicker. But it's the
wrong place. We need to have animals on those hills.
(10:29):
Don't start me on it anyhow. We'll talk to the
old farmer politician panel next on the Country, which is
brought to you by Brandt and jin Wigmore today.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is it gold black and gold BAGMA.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Today's panel is a farmer politician panel. Andrew Hogart Associate
Minister of Agriculture, I think Minister for Biosecurity Act List
MP and Grant mcnational McCullum. He's not a Minister for
anything just yet, but Grant Andrew wanted to talk about
the regulatory standard spill. That sounds pretty boring to me,
(11:22):
I would sooner talk about your underpants. But that's much
more solacious.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Not really.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
The inferior course to the rather underhanded and cheap reference
to what their Minister of Finance were clothes you which
you was wearing where they were made. I have thought
that was completely unnecessary and demeaning. What the fact we
had to having this discussion says a lot about that
pick today, mate, But just for your information, because a
(11:51):
few of us got brassed off with the back the
hell with that what happened there? And so we decided
to put together a video. Chris Bishop kept it off
say what he was wearing that the media word interested
and and then so myself Mike Butterg interviewed me and
Carl Bates and we were interviewed about what we were wearing.
And just for your information today, I've got rodding, I've
got my Rod and gun year on and my R
(12:14):
and n Williams you but hang.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
On, you guys in the nets Grant are insisting that
the schools wear carpet or wear wool carpet. Surely Nichola
could support a New Zealand designer like that other great
leader Jacinda used to well, I know she does.
Speaker 9 (12:30):
She wears all sorts of clothes from our own own designers.
But the thing that you're going to cheapen something as
important as the budget by criticizing with the clothes of
the Minister Finance wears. Did anyone ever criticize Bilinguish for
what he was wearing and asked him where a suit
was made? I cannot recall. It reminds me of that
great quote Jamie, you're a big JFK historian fan, where
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he said in his last speech, no one ever asked
what Lindon and I wear well, And it's true. I mean,
it's always something they used to attack big you taged
women on which is crazy. Now we got to move
on from the fifties and sixties and that sort of
language and that stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, and just for the record, Bill English was always
a bit of a sloppy dress of shirt hanging out
down the old brown suit. But a very smart mind
Andrew Hoggard the regulatory Standards bill that does sound incredibly boring.
Let's talk about what you're doing down in Southland today,
because you're meeting with Graund Smartes at groundswell.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, just firstly on the regulatary standards.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Bell.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I know it may seem boring and a lot of
people getting their knickers in a twist over it, but
all I can say is if that had been around
while I was at Fed's, it would have made our
life so much simpler. So for all those people involved
in farming and other areas where they just want to
get on with life, I'd suggest you pay attention to it,
put a submission in, because it is about making your
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lives easier from regulatory overreach. But you're down Southland meeting
with Groundswell and Feds. Then I am meeting with the
MEAs and then function with Beef and lamb. Farmers are
invited to come along. It's a be at three o'clock.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, and at the trusty old crowdon Lodge and Gore.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What a great venue?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Will you now when you when you're meeting with the
ground Swell boys, Laurie and Bryce and co. Will you
have a week Grant McCullum dole you're putting putting needles into.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Probably I think they've pretty much used there as a
pincushion over the last week. If the email anything to
go by.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah, Well are you cuddling up to ground swell because
you're going to have competition in the cuddling up to
ground swell steaks Andrew Haggard because Winnie and Shane are
wanting to do it as well. They want out of
the Paris Climate Agreement. I think David Seymour was heading
that way. There's only Grant and as woke mates in
the National Party who want to stay in Well.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I don't cuddle up to anyone. Generally, I'll go along
and tell people what I think. And basically I mean
when I'm in town, I try to meet with as
many farming groups and p as possible. That's part of
the job is to be informed, to hear all the
different opinions. You know, I think there's probably a little
too much focus on Paris quite frankly, I mean the outcomes,
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actually what happens here in New Zealand. Are we forced
to pay a price all these other things? So to me,
Paris can be a little bit of a sideshow. It's
more important things like the Zero Carbon Act and Act
was the only party to vote against that back in
the day. So yeah, and just everything and see what happens.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
And Jamie, one of the things that I get really
frustrated about as I drive around Northland is seeing all
the good clean country that went into pine trees is
going into pine trees, and just I get more feedback
on that than anything else that Really it disappoints me
and it makes me feel sick. Actually so and national
the only part of the campaigned on and then in
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the process of delivering on restricting carbon farming to steep
country and getting rid of the whole Oh.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, I get all that, Grant, But I mean,
hang on, you could have fast forward the legislation just
like you did around the pay equity, and you could
you could have knocked carbon farming on the head there
on the spot.
Speaker 9 (16:12):
Ami, Listen, it's already happened in the sense the Prime
Minister came out on the fourth of December and said
from this date on, if you decide to buy some
land with a post that date for carbon farming, that
doesn't mean the right criteria. You won't be able to
get the credits, right.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Bollocks, Grant, bollocks, grand what about all the people with
the invoices for seedlings who are getting into it?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Boots and all, I'm where, aren't I Andrew.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You wait, you wait, actually know there's apparently not that
many invoices in there for seedlings. But yeah, talking to
Todd about this, so look, well we'll see what happens.
But you know, I think there's a lot of people
expect government to be able to snap their fingers and
make things happen. There's actually a pretty prescribed process, and
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I know it's annoying to people, but actually, when the
shoes on the other foot and the other lot are
in charge, we actually want those processes to occur. So
urgency should only be used we are necessary, And yeah,
we don't want to basically be throwing the system away.
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We do need to follow a process.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Grant, let's talk about something we can all agree on.
In the budget that was good news, and this is
this new investment boost tax credit for businesses. It effectively
means you can write another twenty percent off in year
one direct.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
On top of the current existing depreciation rate. You get
another twenty percent in year one, which is massive. I
think you'll find there'll be a good number of particularly
the farming sector, as they're looking towards the end of
their financial years, coming up toward at the field days,
coming up and that sort of thing. They can lower
their tax bill by going and buying that new tract
or siloe wagon or investing a new plant on the
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farm to help improve their businesses. This is their opportunity
to do that, and this is what we're doing to
help stimulate the Alps add to the stimulating of the economy,
in particular the rule sector, which once again is leading
us out of the challenging economic times we're in.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Grunt.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Do you agree with the HOSC that the main road
north of Auckland there should be at one hundred and
ten all the way. He's not happy because he can
only drive five kilometers at one hundred and ten when
he's heading to his Auckland or north of Auckland mansion.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
I know, I had to smile that we will get
their events. I'm sure with the rest of that process.
But yes, the poor old host, he's going to have
to watch out for the police for a bit longer
and stay under one hundred k limit of post the tunnels.
But I'm sure hopefully we'll get there and the finish
it says the process once again. And Andrews said, these
things in government have a process to follow and to
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get it all run ticked off, and then we'll be
able to do one hundred and ten on that great
piece of road and then build the next one. Jamie, Okay,
the Greens don't want to.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Do Okay, right, Andrew Hoggard, thanks for your time. I
know you're halfway between and Picago and Gore and that's
a nice flat piece of road, so don't speed on that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
One hundred k's is to speed one hundred, Yeah, and enjoy.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You're meeting with the ground swell boys this afternoon and
feeds and beef and lamb.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
See you boys.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Twenty nine after to our thanks lads. Alrighty oh, lots
of feedback coming in Glenn. And this is a good
text actually, says hi Jamie. Just as long as those
of us who have planted dirty gullies and haven't dropped
any stock in it's don't get shafted by changes to
ets exactly Glenn, right tree, right place. There's so many
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places on most farms, especially the extensive ones, where you
can plant some pine trees, fill your boots on some
carbon credits. Let's not plant productive food producing land into
pine trees.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Doug Textan and said, foreign, foreign owned trees are going
to be the death of Otago and Southland. It's rather grim.
But I'll tell you what, Doug, there's a lot of
them being plu hunted.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Umm.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Here's another one, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Every sheep and beef farmer should plant say two thirds
of their farms into native trees. Pine tree problem sorted. Well, no,
not really, text, it's totally impractical to do that, very expensive,
very time consuming, and that's not a good use of land.
Here's another one, land corpse Munga Minghi. I hope I
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got that right. Station and Rapparoa is going into trees.
The Angus cow herd is getting sold at Talpo sale
yards this week. A magnificent food producing station. God, I'm
getting angry. Look Land Corp or what do they call
themselves now, PAMU need a thank you, Michelle need to
kick up the ass. They shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Cheese.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
They're going against their own government policy. Up next, the
red meat industry record prices, but will it be enough
to save it? Tom Young from AFCO.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Mene dollars.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Mine.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Let's have a look at the state of the nation
when it comes to the red meat industry. And it's
looking pretty rosy at the moment. Lamb nine dollars, Beef
eight dollars, Mutton nearly five dollars. Tom Young National Livestock
managed for AFCO. I reckon, you've got to have like
a ten dollar winter Lamb contract out in the market.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Tell me, you tell me you do?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Oh hi, Jamie, Well, no, I have an excity. But
I'm getting close. So we've got a we've got a
contract that is a guaranteed minimum price that maxes out
at nine dollars seventy in the South Island at the moment.
So yeah, we're getting there and of the market. Obviously,
if the market goes there and the farmers on a
guaranteed price will we'll get the spot price of the day.
So perhaps it we'll get to ten.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Who knows, well, let's hope.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
So look, when I look at Lamb nine dollars or
nudging nine dollars, it was six bucks last year at
some stage of the season, So that's like a fifty
percent increase. Mutton a wee while ago was worth next
to nothing, you know, now a big use, well over
one hundred bucks. But beef eight dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Yeah, so the prices of all the stock classes are
so some of them are obviously at record levels, so
hopefully farmers are enjoying that. What is a process of
what we're experiencing is I guess a decline in numbers
that we haven't seen for quite some time. So both
islands are well behind on both beef and ovine kelly.
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So it's probably just getting harder and harder to run
these plants sufficiently with the lack of volume. And I
think part of the reason we're seeing a big demand,
well a big spike and price too, is simply not
the meat available both out of New Zealand but also globally,
so obviously that's pushing the price along quite quite steadily.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Well, was it Beef and Lamb's Economic service They do
their yearly forecast or whatever, and they were picking that
the lamb crop crop available for slaughter was going to
be down by a million lambs by the sounds of things,
that could be even more than that.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, So the South Island years of e it's
about one point one million behind last year already, and
the U kills up a weed it too, which was
concerning because obviously, you know, if you're killing news now
they're not going to have a lamb and spring. So
I would say next season in the South Island you'll
see another decline in the volume of lambs that are available.
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In the North Island. Lamb kill there's ever so slightly
ahead of last year. But pre Christmas when it was dry,
anecdotally there were more lambs moved to the South Island store.
So the North Island's in for a long winter. We're
already seeing it now, to be honest, we've taken a
lot of capacity of from both islands and so it's
it's going to be a long drawn out winter for.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Us Land use change.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
We think of Jeremy Rooks and as carbon farming mates
gobbling up some good sheper and beef pastoral land.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He love that. And then of course this talk of
dairy conversions.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
They may not necessarily be on a sheep farm, but
they may be on a farm that had beef cattle
on there. If that comes to pass, even less red
meat available.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, this industry probably is
is really, I guess, at a crossroads with far far
too much capacity in both islands. If something needs to
happen at some point to make it more efficient. I
think that it's probably well, it's not only costing processes
a lot of money, it costs farmers a lot of
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money too to have this inefficiency because someone has to
pay for it. So if we could lose capacity some
or not lose sorry, lose capacity somewhere and fill these
plants up more and makes for much more efficient industry,
which effect you look, effectively means more profit for both
farmers and processes. So it's not particularly enjoyable at this
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point in time.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Tom Young with meat from f CO and no bad
red meat slaughter pun here. But the meat industry has
always been a bit of a cut throat industry. When
it comes to competition, you're literally cutting each other's throats.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Yeah, it's a tough game. And you know the market's
made from day to day, even week to week, so
you've got to be all over your cost to run
you factories, have a fishing factories, you've got to have
your fixed costs under control, and you've got to sell
your product well and maximize a return so you've got
a good schedule, otherwise.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
You're not going to be able to buy the product
in the paddocks.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
So yeah, it's I guess the strongest will survive the
slowest challenge.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Well, enjoy the good prices while they're here. Will they
last into next season?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I think it's every chance they will. But you know
it's a long way. It's a long way to look
that far out, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Tom Young, I'll look forward to catching up with you
at field days. I'll shout you a beare as long
as you shout meat lunch at the f CODE ten
best lunch at field days.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, no problem at all, thanks Tom.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
It is twenty two from one. Lots of feedback coming in.
The chief executive of Palmu is Mark Leslie, a Reparoa
born and bred local, might be worth a chat.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, that's a good text. We'll chase them up.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
They shouldn't be selling farm's wholess bowless to go to trees,
or I don't think they should be. Here's another one,
and this is where the loophole in the system is.
Just recently a very beautiful rolling country sheep farm in
southern Southland, a rolling hill country a sheep farm in
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southern Southland was sold to us said in an inverted
Commas farmer. Then within a week it was sold again
to be blanket planted into pines. Absolute bullshit, says the Texter.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
It is absolute bullshit. Mcnational needs to do something about it. Anyhow,
you're getting stuck into him. I feeling sorry for him.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Actually.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Our next Rural News with Michelle Sports News before the
end of their We've got a chainsaw.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's sitting in the studio.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
We've got one to give away with steel Chainsaw Safety
Awareness Week and Phil Duncan on the weather.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
It's flooding in Nelson.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Mc geez it is eighteen or nineteen away from one
one or t'other. Here's Michelle with the latest and rural news.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
The country's world news with Cod Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brand. Visit steel Ford dot co
dot nz for your local stockist.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
And crop manager. Jack Hadden has won the Pacoe twenty
twenty five Young Grower regional title. Hadden, who oversees a
coulieflower and cabbage operation for Ballet Brothers, pitched his skills
against three fellow contestants to take the title on Friday,
just being He will now go on to compete against
six other regional winners in the Horticulture New Zealand's National
Young Grow of the Year competition, which will be hard
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in Christchurch in September. And that's rural news. We have
more at the Country dot co dot nz. It He's
Jamie was Sports Sport with AFCO.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Visit them online at AFCO dot co dot nz.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I had a quick look at the twelve thirty sports headlines.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They were so boring.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I've reverted back to the midday Sports check which is
far more interesting. Apologies if you've already heard it. Marcus
Armstrong's been the best of the New Zealanders and twenty
first after a challenging Indy five hundred on a wet
day at the Brickyard. Scott Dixon finished twenty third and
last after mechanical issues. Scott McLaughlin crashed out in the
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warm up lap. Ten drivers failed to finish. Alex Palal
won the race for the first time. Chris Wood's Nottingham
Forrest lost one NELT to Chelsea on the final day
of football's Premier League, meaning they finished seventh, one point
shy of qualifying for the Champions League. And right down
the bottom if I scroll down here a high jumper.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
He's such a great athlete.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
This Hamish Kerr won the latest Diamond League meet on
account back in a rocco after leaping to two point
two five meters. That's a weey bit lower than he
went in the Olympics. And Michelle, you were just saying
to me when you wandered in here about all the
lots of great sport over the weekend. But I must
say the women's rugby was pretty damn good.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
Wasn't it absolute best game of the entire weekend? And
I can't believe it's not really been talked about before that,
to be honest, but was amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Like that woman, young lady is like a jack in
the box. She just turns up everywhere. Porscha woodman. You know, geez,
she's getting a bit long in the tooth. There's plenty
of life left than her. But no, no, man, that
was good. And the chiefs, oh, our Highlanders have to
face them this weekend and Dunedin there, and who's going
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to be first five for the All Blacks Red Hot
Damien Mackenzie or Bowden Barrett? What a headache that is
for Raser. Up next, we're going to tell you how
you can win a chainsaw I love this time of
the year leading into field days because I always get
to catch up with this bloke and I always get
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to give away cool things like steel chainsaws. His name
is Phil Ropie Harf from Still It is still Chainsaw
Safety Awareness Week.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Phil.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
We've got five chainsaws and two safety packs.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
To give away.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
We need to encourage blokes and shel is out there
to be careful when they're on the end of it
a chain saw. It's a serious piece of kit.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Good afternoon, Jamie, and good afternoon to everyone that's listening.
Jamie's quite right. You do need to make sure that
you show some respect for the job you're doing with
a chainsaw, and you know the key messages. Just take
some time to check everything's right. And you know you've
got to think three things yourself. Make sure you've got
the right gear. And there's that safety pack for you, Jamie.
Pack boots, sorry chaps, ear muffs and glasses. And you
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also want to think perhaps with some boots that minimum
steel cap and if you're under can it be a
helmet as well? And know your own ability. Don't be
over confident. If you're not sure, you're probably right. Get
someone who can get the job done until you can
take over or even perhaps lot it's in training and
still uses rural training solutions nationwide. And of course your equipment.
Make sure it's sharp, make sure it works properly, particularly
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the safety pieces service at once. Again, there will be
a shock for some of the people listening, I'm sure,
and also know how the SUL reacts.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Who are the biggest menaces on the end of a chainsaw?
And I say this not in a lighthearted manner, but
I know some people weekend warriors get out there and
they're determined to chop down a forest with very little preparation.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah, and it's interesting, and that preparation's key, you know, environment,
make sure there's no other people around you. You know,
these are the things you need to do. Make sure
there's no hazards that are going to get you, and
know about the material you've been cut. But the thing is,
when we're talking about where the greatest danger is, sometimes
it's not necessarily the newer users, because they are paying
a lot of attention and trying to.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Do it right.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Sometimes it's those of us who have been decades born
with the chains are in our hands, but never been
taught how to do it, and sometimes we are the
biggest danger to ourselves. And unfortunately I have put some
farmers in that category.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Yeah, maybe myself as well. Spent a lot of time
on the chainsaw in my younger years.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Fell.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Look, we gave away on Friday Show, or we threw
it out there on Friday Show. We had the still
let me get it right, we had the MS one
eight two chainsaw. It's worth five hundred and fifty five dollars.
We had a still safety pack worth nearly three hundred
dollars to give away.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Who was their winner?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Okay, I'm pleased to announce the winner of the chainsaw
safety pack was Richard Ross from Northland.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Good on you, Richard.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And today we've got a still MS one eight two chainsaw,
as I said, valued at five hundred and fifty five dollars.
These things have got what like a forty centimeter what's
that an inches?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Phil guide bar?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Sixteen inches in the old money there, Jami.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Yeah, people still think of them like that. So look,
it's a meaningful chainsaw. This is handy for smaller jobs
on the farm, but'd be great for around the section
at home. It's she's a cracker.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
Saw, yeah, I think everyone needs one of these, and
you can either win one with us on the country
and if you go into your friendly steelshop you'll find
there's some great packages available on all our sort of
smaller to medium saws. And I think on these ones,
if you have to buy one because you have won it,
you can get a free bar and two chains with it,
which is worth a fairbit against the value.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Of that sort.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right now, what's today's question?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Here it is in twenty twenty six. Now remember that's
next year, twenty twenty six, not this year. How many
years will have still been making chainsaws for?
Speaker 6 (33:31):
To enter go to the Country dot co dot nz
our website, fill in the entry form with the correct
answer to our daily question in twenty twenty six? How
many years will still have been making chainsaws for? Iden
hazarding a guest fel Because I don't even know the
answer that it's a round number, right.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
I'd say it's a yeah, side number.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
A big round number with spoon feeding you the answers, Hey,
what are you up to at field days?
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Well, we're going to have a change to our displays
is going to be bier and better and it gives
us a wonderful opportunity to show off our innovation. And
as you know, a lot of our innovation has been
on battery product. I think we have about twelve categories
of those, let alone how many models in each category,
So we are by far ready the biggest and these
types of tools. But we're also developing petrol as well,
So come along and see how we can carry that
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bat and forward as well. And of course we'll be
involved in a bit of sponsorship of toys that my
pleasure to be involved with wigging down there at the
Silver Spades and the Golden Flyer. So yeah, we're looking
forward to field days, all right.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Philo Robiha from still A look forward to catching you
at field days.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Go well, my.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Friend, absolutely, thank you, Jamien, thank you for everyone that's listening.
And stay safe with the chainsaws out there.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Indeed, okay, go to the website. Answer that simple question,
big big round number for three digits and you could
win the still MS one eight two chainsaw value at
five hundred and fifty five dollars up. Next, we wrap
Monday Show with Phil Duncan from weather Watch.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Raine.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Wrapping the Country with Phil Duncan, Monday's resident weather expert
from weatherwatch dot co dot NZ Phil. I see there's
a bit of flooding going on in Nelson.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, we've had a bit of rain moving through, a
little large low in the Tasman that's moving on in
and in fact it doesn't even arrive till Thursday. But
this is the outer edges of the cold front, first
cold front to arrive. Hopefully some of that rains easing,
but now the North Island's going to be seeing some
of it move through. Might even be a few heavy
falls coming in tonight, isolated thunderstorm or to at the
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top of the country coming off the Tasman Sea. But
it's really sort of Wednesday, the northwest is kickin. Rain
comes into the western side of the country again and
that's kind of the main low pressure zone coming through,
which means Thursday and Friday, especially Thursday, a lot of
low pressure over the North Island, lots of downpours and
some thunderstorms around on Thursday coming off the Tasman mostly
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for the top half of the North Island off the Tasman,
but might brush the top part of the South Island
as well, And by the time we get to Friday,
in the long weekend, big strong autumn or wintry southwesterly
flow across the country. Lots of showers along the west
and the south of the country. And if you live
in the east Canterbury, for example, wided Upper Hawke's Bay,
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maybe Gismond as well, those areas are not going to
be seeing very much wet weather over the next several days.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Mind you, at Queen's Birthday weekend signals as the calendar
would dictate the beginning of winter, we can't complain may
have been very good.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, it's been warmer than average by one to two
degrees And some people don't think that's a lot, but
that when you measure out all the highs and lows
across the month and it comes up one to two
degrees above normal, that is actually quite a lot above
what we would normally be getting. So it's been warmer. Airflows,
a lot of subtropical winds, a lot of airflows out
of Australia, and the Southerlys we had had had not
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come from Antarctica, a lot of them have actually come
from just out of the southern part of Australia. So yeah,
it's been warmer than average. Even if we've been having
cold days in some areas and some cold nights. Definitely
been a warmer than average airflow coming into the country
for the past few months, not even just the last
few weeks, but the past few months now.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
You had a bit of a home handyman's accident, got
your old face a bit beat up. Are you back
in front of the video yet or are you still
a face for radio?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Back in front of the TV screen today on YouTube?
It was a little bit nervous doing it, but lots
of makeup and you can barely see a thing, So
it's amazing what you can do with light cameras and makeup.
But yeah, it's a bit of a journey. Still got
a bit while to go to fully recover from it.
But it's just one of those things that, Yeah, as
you get older, you learn to be a little more careful.
(37:43):
And also while we talk, my condolences to you, Jamie
with the loss of your close mate last week, and
we're all thinking of you at the moment and obviously
the family as well.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Yeah, thanks very much, Phil really appreciate that. Yep, we're
all Rowan for all Rowan great mates. But we're going
to farewell. I'm in style. It's Riversdale on Friday afternoon.
If the bloke is running the pubs listening, stock up
because Rowan wanted a Friday funeral. We'll catch you back tomorrow.
Damian O'Connor on the show. Haven't had an argument with
(38:13):
him for a while. We'll do so tomorrow any time.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
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