October 30, 2024 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Wayne Langford, Shane Jones, Mike Casey, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Get a New Zealand and Welcome to the Country. It's
brought to you by Brent. My name is Jamie McKay.
Michelle's loaded me up with some Halloween music. I don't
know why we celebrate Halloween here in New Zealand. It's
crass American commercialization. But maybe I'm just a grinch. I
wonder if our first guest celebrates Halloween October the thirty first.
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His name is Wayne Langford, the president of the Federated Farmers.
I'm going to spend most of the show today across
the Tasman and Australia. Shane Jones, the Prince of the Provinces,
is in Seventh Heaven. He's like a pig and muck.
At the moment, he is at a nine thousand strong
mining conference in Sydney. Can't imagine how excited he is.
(01:14):
We'll ask him in just to tick Mike Casey Central
Otago cherry Growers, also at a conference in New South Wales.
He is at a digital agg conference in Wagga Wogga
and as always on a Thursday, Rossie correspondent Chris Russell,
not surprisingly in Sydney. He's no fan of the Harker.
(01:34):
Has the Harker had its day? And he's got a
great story about bear being the barometer of a good harvest.
There we go, let's welcome on to the show. To
kick off the show. Haven't yarn to him for ages,
I've missed him. Wayne Langford, the president of Federated Farmers Yolo,
how are you going. How's the season treating you in
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Golden Bay?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Hey, Jammy, you're going going pretty well. I'm in my
rs today. I've just been dealing with some Jersey bulls
getting them ready to go out with the hood. I
don't quite understand why if they've been together for three
months they decide today's the day that they will want
to fight together. But we managed to get them on
the truck and they'll be with the girls in the
next couple of hours, so that's good. But yeah, overall,
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seasons looking looking really good and we're taking long all
right as it stands.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well better than some other areas around the country which
have had a bit of a challenging spring. Now Federated Farmers.
I think your annual subscriptions are up for grabs, and
they tell me that people are keenly re signing. You
must be doing a good job. And that's part one
of the question. Part two is what's happened to the
love and with groundsol Have you made those boys redundant?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Jeseus, that's a big question. But every year I'm extremely
humbled by everyone that you know that that pays the membership.
It is a big membership and we appreciate that and
we can't do what we're doing without the memberships that
come in. But you're right, the year we're seeing record
memberships and getting signed up, which is fantastic. We Field
team are doing a great job answering all those calls
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from people, people that want to be a part of
the team, and and you know, and we're loving the support.
You're right, We've got a job to do and we're
doing that. And if and if that means that Groundswold
I don't have to quite do as much as what
they were doing. Hey, that's good. That probably means we're
doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right. It's if it's not a rude question, what does
an annual subscription to Federated Farmers cost you or cost
me if I decided, do you have one for I'll
be Farmers.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yes, our standard memberships eight hundred dollars and like I said,
that is a good, good check. We appreciate that. But
also yeah, there are other options as well, from you
know further down to even you can you can go
even higher if you like as well. So like I said,
call call eight hundred farming and they'll sort you out quick, quick,
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right to get you signed up.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right here, What have you been up to? What has
Federated Farmer's been up to? Workshops for sheer a farming
are on the agenda.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, but busy monthcoming in November, but a cheer farming
events throughout throughout the country and most of the dairy areas.
The first one kicks off on the on the seventh
of November in Marinsville. See, these events are really for anyone,
those those that are looking at going into shere miking,
or even farm owners that are looking at putting sheer
milkers on. I mean, this is the this is the
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time of year where you want to be doing those
numbers and working out hak it doesn't stack up or
what does it mean who has to pay for what?
This is where all those simple questions will get answered
and also some more detailed questions. If you are a
sheamoker and your year you may be, you know, try
trying to work out your farming system or work out
what your agreement means. It's again a good place to
head along and to to find out exactly what the
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answers are.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
One area that Federated Farmers, in my opinion anyhow, has
been doing a good job and as battling these stupid
freshwater regulations. And I know that. I like, we talk
about battleground staf in the United States, but the battleground
province almost for fresh water reform is right here where
I am. Otago.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, you're in the heart of it. And Luke Canaan
as a provincial team there and Otago are doing a
fantastic job for feeds. You know, fight in a good fight.
I mean, we've got a central government and that's recognized
that you know, we need to get farming cranking, we
need we need to do it to tobacco economy. And
yet our regional councils don't seem to be picking up
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on their message. And it's not that we don't want
to achieve the same results as what they're talking about.
It's just that we want to do it in a
practical and an affordable way. No one that's going to
send us all broke.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Why is at the Otago Regional Council railing so much
against well, I'm not going to say the majority. I
think the split on the council is seven to five.
They seem to be determined to stay in their camps.
But you've got Environment Minister Penny Simmons, my old primary
school mate. She's told them to pull their head and
they're not listening.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It baffles me. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, there is a
new changing of the tight and new new direction of
treble on which we're going and it's taking a while
for their councils to get on board and need their message.
So I mean, we've got local body elections coming up
next year. I guess there'll be answerable to those that
have wroting them in and hopefully you know, everyone gets
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down votes and we get them sorted once and for all,
because yeah, we do need some drastic action. I think
they've got a bit loose over the years.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, well they charged far too much for their rates.
But I wouldn't be the only one complaining about regional
council rates right around the country. Just to finish on,
you made your name on social media before you became
famous as the president of Federated Farmers. I see the
apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. His son's been
doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, I'm worried about what they meant.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, no, I mean Michelle just told me that he
celebrated finishing school by cleaning the tractor on social media.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know that is right. They had a bit of
a celebration down at school and took the couple of
the boys took the tractors and then so I said, well,
if you want to take our tractor and son, you've
got to give it a clean. So got one job
done for me anyway. But yeah, I had my oldest
finished school health of an achievement. Really, you know, we
sometimes underestimate the small things. But he's also bigger and
better things now and we'll see where he ends up.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is he going to get into a bit of nudity
with the milking apron like yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I've had to pull back from that sort of stuff
I'm statesman now, Jamie, I can't be doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Where where's he going? Is he going to Lincoln or something?
What's he doing after school?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Heating down to Canterbury University signed up for next year.
You've got a few ideas down there, so that'd be
interesting to see where he ends up.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, he might be like dad. He might find his
wife on day one. That's university, like you did.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You've been hearing stories.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
No, no, no, she told us the story, and then
she said she wrote in the diary the first day
after she met you, I met a guy called Wayne Langford.
What a dick.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I must have done something right after that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I think you won are over anyhow, it looks like
you're winning some of the farmers over here in New Zealand. Wayne,
good work. You guys at Federated Farmers are doing a
good work and doing good work on behalf of New
Zealand farmers. We certainly need strong advocacy. Keep it up.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh, I appreciate that. You know we'll get stuckond for
everyone and every farmer.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Out there got on you. There we go, Wayne Langford.
Kicking off the show today Halloween, Michelle, what well? What
is Halloween? Do you know what Halloween is?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I do, actually, Jamie, so ready for your history relea.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Sir, Yes I am, because I've just come back this
old bore you first with the travel story. Everywhere in
America or in the States, pumpkins are sitting outside of
houses in the middle of cities.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It's crazy. And the orange over there, which really blows
my mind. We don't see orange ones here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, there is a big orange pumpkin. He's called Donald
Trump and he's standing for the presidency of the United States.
But I mean I googled it very quickly before we
got we got to air, and it's that it have
its origins as a pagan religious celebration to welcome the
harvest at the end of summer. No.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, there's a lot of variations on it so as
actually a Christian holiday, but it goes right back to
Celtic time. So it is celebrated in Europe Scotland, you know, England, Germany, France,
all those places, but not as big as as as
you can.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, okay, so that's a northern hemisphere thing. If we're
celebrating harvest at the end of summer this, why are
we doing it in the Southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
The same reason that we have Snowman on our Christmas
cards at Christmas time, probably, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, that is a very good answer. Well done, right,
Well take a break. I'm very excited. I'm very excited
because up next he's one of my favors here on
the country. The Prince of the province is Martua Shane Jones.
He is in Sydney. He sent me a text earlier
this morning. He is in Sydney. Oh here's the good
bit of thriller. Ah that sounds like Shane Jones at
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a mining conference in Sydney. He's up next on the country.
He is the Prince of the Province's Marta Shane Jones.
And I reckon he has to be like a pig
in market at the moment, because Shane, you are at
a mining conference with nine thousand other people in Sydney.
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This would be like a wet dream for you. I
shouldn't say that, should I.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
It came to sixty five years worth of dreaming. That's
all come true. Nine thousand people. I had the pleasure
of addressing them on behalf of New Zealand and basically
putting up the neon light that the last six to
nine years of this dwarfish antagonism towards mining is over
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the Aussies that are visiting at the Bung they actually
want to see. Firstly, the fast track leaders take rout
on the parliamentary landscape. But more importantly they just cannot
get over that we're likely to have the most efficient
regime in the OECD for the allocation of mining permits.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Are you going to invite the Aussies overhead and dig
up New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
You know, I gave twenty million when I was a
provincial Growth minister to a project obviously on commercial terms
down the West Coast a crowd called Paration Mining and
they rapidly paid it back, and the Aussies piled in
and put two hundred million dollars into the fund. So
they're already arriving. They're turned on by the fact that
we've got antinomy, which is a rare earth mineral associated
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with gold under reftin, and we've got a host of
other valuable resources tied up with the mineral sands and
the iron sands across the iron sand at the moment
is sub misinformation by the people that have left New
Zealand the offshore in people bringing them the iron sand
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mining permits. Of course that's not true.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now there's a few protesters in Coramnandel who are none
too pleased with you.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I can't understand these people. We are in Coromandel drilling
under the ground. There is no sinaio, no frog, no
multicolored skink or indeed dope grow who will be offended
by gold mining many many meters hundreds of meters under
the earth. Now this speaks to the ideological narrowness and
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quite frankly, this hobbit like thinking. We see too much
in various parts of Coromandel where they don't want economic
development and they seem to think that it's called just
to live on the doll.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Now you're in a mining conference, as I said in Sydney,
you've been you must be conferenced out because you've also
been at an energy conference in Singapore, and you've been
inviting the Singaporeans, if that's the correct terminology, over to
New Zealand as well. You're inviting the whole world to
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I know you're going to say New Zealand first lot
about your historic aversion to overseas investment. Of course, we
retain those doubting Thomas eyes, certainly when it gets to
pastoral land and strategic assets, including the fishing assets. But look, mate,
if the Singaporeans want to invest strategically with us and
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enjoy an experience of pay to play because they're concerned
about food security, some of the food they need they
couldn't get it in suitable quantities during COVID. They've been
invited down by my colleague Todd McLay to come and
look at the food industry and spy various opportunities. And
one of the entities that we met with is Olham.
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They used to be involved in the dairy industry. I
think an open country, and now they've come back again
and they've built a factory and took the raw. I'm
conscious of the fact that we don't want to unwittingly
weaken the position from terror and other players. But we're
an open market economy, mind you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If you and Winston had your way, we would be
like Singapore. Winston's very much a disciple of remind me
of the great Singaporean leader. Help you leak on you,
thank you, yes, yeah, Nanna.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Winston realizes, which is why he's promoted one hundred billion
dollar reserve fund to recapitalize and redevelop our country in
terms of our infrastructure and other developments. But Singapore similar
sized people. They're very appreciative of the legacy of service
for sixty years. We've recognized their diplomatic connection with US
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next year. So there's nothing wrong. We're finding a like minded,
clean pair of hands to come down and join up
with the current asset owners, the people investing in water,
like Murray McCully and the trust up north. I think
there's a great future for Singapore and New Zealand food collaboration.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Let's finish on the US election. I know that you
spent time in the US. You studied at Harvard. I
was there recently, not studying, Shane, just looking. But I'm
picking Trump. I think he's going to win those swing states.
He's going to get home. That's not a good news
story for New Zealand, and I know you have to
tread carefully on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, So it's going to come down to those battleground states. Pennsylvania, Ohio,
Arizona and all tied. Seems to be going in Trump's
direction in those particular states. You know, only sixty six
percent of the voters bothered to turn out from twenty twenty,
and it's odds on that the turnout won't be as
large this time around. But irrespective of who wins, we're
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an open trading economy, and where there are obstacles erected
that impede our ability to profit from trade in such
a huge market such as the United States of America,
then we've all got to be on a state of
high alert. That's why it's important to diversify our trade.
I know there's a lot of effort going into India,
but I think you're right in the sense that the
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Democrats might win the popular vote, but you have to
win the electoral votes in key number of limited states,
and unless you win them, you cannot be the president
of the United States of America. And the signs are
all going towards mister Trump pulling off those highly contested states.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I bet you you'll be excited, and I'll bet you
you'll be like me. You'll be glued to the telly
watching the coverage. This would almost be as good, Shane,
as a mining conference for you.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I'm accepting Jerry Browny's invitation to go and drink the
gin and share some time with a bunch of others
as the results come rolling in. But hey, you know,
there's a showbiz dimension to it. There's a lot of
celebrity culture. But like yourself, I've been and out of
the States and don't ever bet against America.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Shane Jones, thanks for your time from Sydney. You enjoy
the rest of your mining conference.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
You're to mate, see you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Thank you, Shane twenty seven up to twelve. You are
with the Country, right. I got told off. I got
told off Michelle by the writer of our script for
the Country and Heartland Chips promo.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, you were a little bit abusive yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, I didn't realize that said person had written the script.
It was probably the best written script I've ever misread.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You try and dig yourself out of the hume.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm like Trump, I misspoke, I misspoke. So we've decided
to bring the Chat, the Cans and the Chips together,
a collaboration like no other.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Who wrote this someone absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well look at the spelling mistake there. I'll have to
talk to said person about the script. Okay, here's the deal.
So next Tuesday we're launching the Farmer's Poor, which is
the Emerson's Bear, the Extra Crispy Pallel along with the
Heartland Ships. We're having a fun afternoon or lunch at
Emerson's here in Duned and you're welcome to come along
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and join us. You can have a bear and you
can have a chip sandwich, white bread, chips dip, another
bit of white bread on top.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Bang.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
How good is that?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And we are giving away some fun packs from right
around the country. We gave away well we haven't packaged
them up yet, but we're good for it, trust us.
We had a couple of winners from yesterday's show.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
We did so, one from the North, one from the South,
congratulations to rain a Chest from Cambridge and Finn Torrents
from Dunedin.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well Fin, if you were listening, you might want to
come along and join us on Tuesday. Anyone can. And
the other thing is because Brant are our sponsors, we're
always looking to leverage the situation here on the country.
It is just the way in commercial radio. What we
would like is a green tractor, a John Dare tractor.
So if you want to if you're out on the
tiree or somewhere like that. Or you've got a John
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Dare and you within cooey of us, drop us a
text on five double nine, ring your tractor along, we'll
park it out in front of Emerson's and we'll give
you some beer and some chips.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Sounds like a good deal to me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, okay, So five double O nine a text number
if you've got a John Deere attractor somewhere near Dunedin
and we promise to look after you after the break
we are going to Are we going to give away
some more fun packs today?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, we'll give away a cup more?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yep? Okay, five double O nine's at text numbers. So
just give us your name and your courier address and
we'll pick a one winner from the North Island, one
from the South. Can't be fairer than that. And just
remembering or repeating those chip flavors maple bacon, green onions,
salt and vinegar. I had some salt and vinegar when
I got home from golf last night. They might be
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my new favorites ahead of the maple bacon. Now up
next rural news and sports news. Before the end of
the air. Mike Casey is in Wogga Wogga, the Central
Otago cherry grower and our Ossie correspondent is Chris Russell.
More Halloween music for you, Hungry like the Wolf Duran Duran,
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what a great eighties band. Here's Michelle with the latest
and rural news.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The Country's Rural News with Cob Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower Brand. Visit steel for dot co
dot NZB for your local stockist.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Mental health and wellbeing advocates want the government to address
health inequities people are living with and rural communities and
if it's to improve outcomes for those living outside main
centers with mental health. The government is asking for feedback
on a suicide prevention plan for the next five years.
Monitor how Autoministry of Health plant are proposed establishing a
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community fund focused on populations with higher needs, including rural
and maternal communities. And that's rural news. You can find
more at the Country dot co dot NZ.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Sport with AFCO visit them online at a fco dot
co dot Nz.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The New Zealand Warriors have signed Gold Coast Titans half
back Tana Boyd on a two year contract starting next season.
The twenty five. Twenty four year old has played sixty
nine NRL matches since his first grade debut in twenty nineteen.
Manchester United fenn fans are having a day to remember.
Not only have the Red Devils made the quarterfinals of
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the League Cup, crosstown rivals man City have been knocked
out of the comp by Spurs and Formula No. I
won't do Formula one. I'll do Joel King because squash
doesn't get enough coverage. Keewi squash player Joel King shown
plenty of grit at the Chaina Open in Shanghai, saving
a match ball before beating a woman from Malaysia. Did
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you see your name on the list? There was no
way I was going to split that one out before
beating a woman from Malaysia fifteen to thirteen in the
fifth and deciding game of their first round match. And
that is your sports news. Up next, our second trip
across the Tasman Today Mike Casey's and Wagawa Australia is
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dominating the show today. Let's go there again. The Prince
of the province is Shane Jones. He's at a mining
conference in Sydney. Mike Casey, mister Electric vehicle farming. I
think I can call him that Central Otago cherry grower
all round. Good bloke. You're at a conference as well, now,
Mike at Greenee, like you wouldn't be at the mining
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conference with the old Prince of the provinces.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Well, I have to say, you know, I spent twelve
years in Sydney and I feel like he's hanging out
with the greenies over there at the moment, whereas I'm
in the heartland of New South Wales and Waggle Wogger.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
What brings you to Wagga Wogga.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I'm at the Digital Agriculture Summits at Charlester University, which
is basically invited over to talk to a whole bunch
of farmers in the region about what I've done with
moving to electric and basically the economics and the operational
savings that I've been able to achieve.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Hey, Mike, is or are electric vehicles so twenty twenty three?
Have they gone out of fashion now?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I just bought a new one and I reckon it's
the best car I've ever driven, So I'd say it's
very much still twenty twenty four at the moment, but
it's all going to come down to economics, right, Like,
at the end of it, you know, you can argue
about what fuel type is better for various reasons, from climate,
through the range, through how fast it goes, through whatever
you fancy. But at the end of it, like it's
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all about the economics and whether or not electric vehicles
stack up over there over their lifetime, which I'm fairly
adamant they do, especially in rural New Zealand where we
drive so many keys, it's just so much cheaper per
kilometer that eventually.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, but that's all very well, being cheaper per kilometer,
but you can't charge them anywhere.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Well, I think something like ninety five percent of the
I actually kind of start out yesterday about ninety five
percent of the kilometers driven in New Zealand in Australia.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Are charged at home.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
So that's a really significant amount of energy that actually
just comes from home.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, but hang on, Mike, I'll play Devil's advocate here.
That's town needs who are driving commuting too and from
work and plugging in the vehicle and at night. And
that's fine, But if you're wanting to drive four or
five hundred kilometers, different story.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Oh, totally right. And so this is you know occasionally,
you know, the long trip that I take is from
Cromwell through to christ Church. I do that fairly regularly,
like to stop and fairly for a pie. That I'll
tell you what, it is, awfully frustrating when you're stopping
fairly for a pie and there's someone already at that
charging station, you got to wait for them. You end
up having two piles. You're not getting a bit fat.
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So the long story short is yes, like right now,
when you think about it, your own driving, probably about
ninety percent of the cave that you do will be
you know, trips that go out during the day and
come home to rest at nighttime, and you probably don't
do four hundred k's in a day. But for those
drivers that do do regular driving into city, I think
I agree with you. Until the infrastructure picks up, it's
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always going to be a bit difficult to make that
as an efficient trip is driving a pitch?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What about the restyle of evs.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I personally hit that exact dilemma at the moment. So
we bought some conas in some FILMLI conas in twenty twenty,
and they snuck in just under the eighty thousand dollar mark.
I think there were seventy nine grand, so we could
get their clean car rebase and what that was twenty
twenty it's now twenty twenty four, and I think they're
worth about twenty five grand each, with about one hundred
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and forty thousand k's on the clock each. And that's
simply because the technology has just got so much better. Right,
you can buy far better brand new cars for far
far cheaper now, So of course the second hand vehicles
aren't going to retain their value I think that's going
to settle down after a while. I just bought the
new k At EV nine, which is a big seven seater,
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for about the same price, you know, eighty thousand dollars,
about the same price they bought the Conas in twenty twenty.
So it sort of just shows you that the technology
is improving so fast you can't really expect these secondhand
vehicles to hold on to a lot of the capital
value at the moment.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, you have proven that you can have EV vehicles,
namely tractors on horticulture operations. That'll be the future for
EV tractors, not out on the hills.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Yeah, I mean I think at the moment that's one
hundred percent right, you know, Like I've got a fifty
five horse power tractor, it can do anything about an
eighty to ninety horse power diesel tractor can do. So
it's pretty powerful in terms of like the instant talk
and stuff. But I'm not going to get anyone and say,
you know, it's going to be able to do a
job of a two hundred horse power tractor. It simply
isn't designed for that. We haven't seen any big tractors
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come off the market yet. I did get to sit
in a cab of one hundred and sixty horse power
electric tractor in San Francisco a while ago, so they
are coming. But I think you know, as blokes like
you and me, we often focus on the large machines,
But the large machines are the most difficult to look
at it going down this pathword, whereas in many cases
it's all the small machines added together are actually hugely
(26:55):
the expensive parts. So you just got to focus on
what's good and really just do the numbers to work
out what's what's most economical for your family and for
your farm.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Really, Mike Casey final question for you did you go
to Woggle Woggle, New South Wales to get away from
the weather. In Central Otago. You had snow in the weekend.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
It was it was pretty gnarly. Yah, we got super
lucky in central where we were, just in Mount Pie's
are there where the lake, the body of water Lake
Dunston really do good job of heating up that snow
and turning it to drizzle by the time it had
our orchard. But I do feel pretty sorry for you know,
those orchards over and Quiet and Alex and maybe further
(27:34):
into Central Otago that got pretty bad. These late temperature freezers,
whether it be foster, whether it be snow, usually means
a huge amount of fruit shedding. So we'll have to
hear in the next couple of weeks as to what
that fruit shedding looks like on the trees and over
there and see whether it's going to affect overall crops.
But he's hoping, he's hoping they dodged it, but you
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just don't know at the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hey, Mike Casey, always good to catch up on the country.
Safe travels home from Waggle Wogger.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Thank you, my friend. I'm heading into christ just next
and catching up with a couple of farmers over there.
So yeah, I'll be back on home sool soon.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Thanks Mike. It is seventeen away from one. You're with
the country. Look if you're entering for the chips and
the bear, the bear from Emerson's, the extra Crispy Pale
Ale and the chips from Heartland, Sultan, Vinegar green Onnge
and Maple Bacon. I just can't make up the mind
which is the best one. When you text us through
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on five double nine, give us your name and not
just the town you're from. Give us your career address
right your rd address, so that if we pick you
we can just send it straight off to you. Eventually,
I think we'll get it there. Some of your feedback,
Mike says his electric car, this is Mike Casey is
the best car he's ever driven, but he's obviously never
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driven a hold in V eight another one sixty thousand
dollars to change a four year old car. Only an
electric cherry farmer could afford to do that. FFS not
realistic for the average bloke. And my screen keeps flicking
on because you're all entering for the fun packs from Emerson's.
And Heartland's Chip and Chips and why wouldn't you up
(29:11):
next our third visit to Australia. It's a Rossie correspondent
Chris Russell. More bear bears dominating the show as well
today Long Rag Australia absolutely dominating the show today our
third visit there with our Rossie correspondent Chris Russell. Chris,
(29:31):
a great story about the Mungen Dai pub and how
many kegs a bear it's selling as a barometer of
the successful harvest on the boundary between New South Wales
and Queensland. Tell me more well man, And.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
It's just a little town, about six hundred people there normally,
but the rush to get big crops and wheat, chickpeas
and so on harvested has everybody running off their feet
and they measure the success of their harvest in kegs
of beer a wheet they go through. Now, typically in
the non harvest time they're about six or six keg town. Well,
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at the moment they're doing a thirty five keg town
and the pubs had to put on eight extra workers,
so the normal four there has gone up to twelve workers.
And in a time when they've had droughts and COVID
nineteen border because they're right on the border, and they
had three shops actually burned down in the last few
years in the town. But this year it's looking like
an absolute boomer. And if you measure it by bacon
(30:30):
in the where they do bacon and egg rolls, they're
up to about twenty kilos of bacon. So the whole
town is humming and the people are really happy. So
it looks like it's going to be a great harvest
this year, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Now, when it comes to reducing a greenhouse gas emissions
from ruminants, and that's your area of expertise, Chris Russ,
asparusgopsis might not be the cure al.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Yeah, well, asparagdropsis of course. Is this algae that they've
found actually reduces signific reduces the methane production by about
eighty five percent. It's mainly applied for feed lot cattle
costs because you've got to mix it up with the
feed only a small amount. The problem is that its
main active is a thing called bromoform, which is based
(31:14):
on bromine and it's a known cancer causing agent. Now,
the Europeans have already said they won't allow any beef
into Europe which has been fed on bromaforms and the
United States Environmental Protection Agency has classified this as a
human cast intergen so they're also not going to use it.
And yet there's so much money at the moment being
(31:36):
spent on building up, you know, production of this asparagopsi
is to try and meet our methane emission targets in
the beef industry. The good news news they've has also
been researching Queensland to find that a ground up hemp
extract that seems to have a similar effect and it
hasn't had any bromiform in it at all, and it
only costs about ten percent of what the asparagops has cost.
(31:58):
So there may be some sunch on the horizon, But
I just wonder about the amount of money this being's
spent on, fact.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You to produce this jomie your Prime Minister Anthony Albinizi,
And I'm not sure how long he's going to keep
the job for this follows in a long line of
very disappointing Australian prime ministers. If you don't mind me
saying so, I reckon the last decent one you had
was John Howard, But he has been caught out red handed, basically,
hasn't he with his nose on the trough? How's that
(32:24):
going down with your ever, Joka.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Well, I saw the headline in the Telegraph last week
was perking class man. Now, of course he's always made
a big play about how his mother spent her whole
sixty five years of a life living in a housing
commission house, and he was brought up as a poor
working class kid. But by Gee, I'll tell you what
things have changed for him, and I think, look to
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the public are getting sick of it. He's now, of course,
jetting all around the world, and the latest thing that's
been discovered is that he was upgraded twenty two times,
supposedly through contacts with Alan Joyce, who was the head
of Quatas, when he was doing over private overseas trips,
both with his son and on his own all over
(33:09):
the world. Now, of course that's not nothing unusual, and
he had of course declared it as one of the
gifts that he'd received, et cetera, et cetera. But I
think people are saying this is just another sign that
he's got his nose well and truly in the trough.
You might remember last year we had this uprising in
Alice Springs and all the crime being committed there, and finally,
under pressure, he agreed to fly to Alice Springs to
(33:31):
meet with the local town working people and with the
mayor to see if they could somehow bring some law
and order back to Alice Springs. Well, he was there
for three hours and then he flew out. Where did
he fly to stretch to the tennis Open and he
spent two days lolling about with cocktails in his hands.
That didn't go down well either with the public. So
he is definitely on the nose here. Jamie, I think
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he's lost his idea of being the sort of knockabout
bloke that Bob Hawk was able to can maintain through
is Prime ministership. And I think this is all adding
up to a very difficult election for him, which he
needs to hold before May next year.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Jamie has the Harker done for Joe Marler? Are the
ugly English props come out and had fired a shot
and didn't take long for Steven Jones, who absolutely hates
the New Zealand and the All Blacks to have a go.
What's the view of the harker in Australia.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I think the view here would be, look, it's cute,
but it's had its day. And I think it's certainly
absolutely iniquitous that nobody else can even take one step
towards them when they're doing it, or they're going to
get massive fines. I think that's quite ridiculous. I remember
some of the intimidation that used to occur with the
French and the Australians walking up toe to toe with
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these guys when they're doing the harker. But my own
view is that it's had its day. It was a
cute thing to do and it was part of their
tradition and everyone thought it added to the spectacular nature
of the big Games with the All Blacks, which are
a much revered team. But certainly there was a big
article in the London Sunday Times last week suggesting that
(35:10):
it's time it was dump and stopped enjoying these special
privileges and that we indulge in this sort of bully.
And I think the headline said Rugby has indulged the bullying,
pompous harker for too long, and I tend to agree
that that could well be right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Jamie, okay, Chris Russell, no comment from me, Thank you
very much for your time, no worries. Seven away from one.
You're with the country, summing feedback coming in thick and fast,
especially for the Beer and the Chips. But here's one.
Shane Jones obviously hasn't heard of doctor Allen Lytchman. I
hope I got the pronunciation right there. His prediction read
(35:49):
the US election. He hasn't been wrong in over forty
years worth listening to. Obviously, doctor Allen Lytchman is picking Carmela.
I basemine On spend quite a bit of time studying it.
But I see the money markets have got Trump at
about sixty two percent chance of victory, you know. And
(36:11):
the other thing is with the electoral college system. The
election is decided by seven battleground states, as Shane Jones said,
and I think last time I had a look, Trump
was ahead, and five of the seven it's going to
be close. The Democrats will win the popular vote, but
that doesn't get you the White House. Remember, if you're
after the Bear and the Chips, your name and your
(36:32):
full courier address will be back to wrap the show
with some of your feedback. Okay, wrapping the country with
some of your feedback. Bugger, it's my screen keeps moving.
You're all stop entering for the chips. There's a great
text in here somewhere. Where is it, Michelle? Can you
(36:53):
find it? There is? Okay, spot on with the Harker.
Maybe do it at home, but not in away games.
Hearing perin a squawk like a pubescent teenager sounds awful,
And you know, text, I'm kind of with you on that.
I wonder whether we not necessarily for all back black
games here. But I think in this country we might
be a wee bit guilty of overdoing the hark Or
(37:15):
I'll upset some people by saying that, just my opinion.
If you've got a green tractor yet, Michelle.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I haven't got a green tractor yet, Jamie, unfortunately. But
if there's anyone out there with a farm that's close
to us that would like to bring your green John
Deere tractor to Emerson's on Tuesday next week, there'll be
some beer and chips in it for you, give us
a text on five double O night.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I might have to get the new John Dere moer
from the Otago Golf will I.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Let you drive that from Ufa and Baalumakewen down.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Maybe they might, but I'll tell you what they take
the beer. I certainly know a couple of blokes in
the pro Shopper would, right he. That's us done and
dust that. We'll catch you back tomorrow with a Nadier
Limb and Carlos Baghrim.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Catule. The latest from the land, It's the Country Podcast
with Jamie McGue Thanks to Brent, your specialist in John
Deere Machinery
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Get a New Zealand and Welcome to the Country. It's
brought to you by Brent. My name is Jamie McKay.
Michelle's loaded me up with some Halloween music. I don't
know why we celebrate Halloween here in New Zealand. It's
crass American commercialization. But maybe I'm just a grinch. I
wonder if our first guest celebrates Halloween October the thirty first.
(00:53):
His name is Wayne Langford, the president of the Federated Farmers.
I'm going to spend most of the show today across
the Tasman and Australia. Shane Jones, the Prince of the Provinces,
is in Seventh Heaven. He's like a pig and muck.
At the moment, he is at a nine thousand strong
mining conference in Sydney. Can't imagine how excited he is.
(01:14):
We'll ask him in just to tick Mike Casey Central
Otago cherry Growers, also at a conference in New South Wales.
He is at a digital agg conference in Wagga Wogga
and as always on a Thursday, Rossie correspondent Chris Russell,
not surprisingly in Sydney. He's no fan of the Harker.
(01:34):
Has the Harker had its day? And he's got a
great story about bear being the barometer of a good harvest.
There we go, let's welcome on to the show. To
kick off the show. Haven't yarn to him for ages,
I've missed him. Wayne Langford, the president of Federated Farmers Yolo,
how are you going. How's the season treating you in
(01:56):
Golden Bay?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Hey, Jammy, you're going going pretty well. I'm in my
rs today. I've just been dealing with some Jersey bulls
getting them ready to go out with the hood. I
don't quite understand why if they've been together for three
months they decide today's the day that they will want
to fight together. But we managed to get them on
the truck and they'll be with the girls in the
next couple of hours, so that's good. But yeah, overall,
(02:17):
seasons looking looking really good and we're taking long all
right as it stands.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well better than some other areas around the country which
have had a bit of a challenging spring. Now Federated Farmers.
I think your annual subscriptions are up for grabs, and
they tell me that people are keenly re signing. You
must be doing a good job. And that's part one
of the question. Part two is what's happened to the
love and with groundsol Have you made those boys redundant?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Jeseus, that's a big question. But every year I'm extremely
humbled by everyone that you know that that pays the membership.
It is a big membership and we appreciate that and
we can't do what we're doing without the memberships that
come in. But you're right, the year we're seeing record
memberships and getting signed up, which is fantastic. We Field
team are doing a great job answering all those calls
(03:07):
from people, people that want to be a part of
the team, and and you know, and we're loving the support.
You're right, We've got a job to do and we're
doing that. And if and if that means that Groundswold
I don't have to quite do as much as what
they were doing. Hey, that's good. That probably means we're
doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right. It's if it's not a rude question, what does
an annual subscription to Federated Farmers cost you or cost
me if I decided, do you have one for I'll
be Farmers.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yes, our standard memberships eight hundred dollars and like I said,
that is a good, good check. We appreciate that. But
also yeah, there are other options as well, from you
know further down to even you can you can go
even higher if you like as well. So like I said,
call call eight hundred farming and they'll sort you out quick, quick,
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right to get you signed up.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right here, What have you been up to? What has
Federated Farmer's been up to? Workshops for sheer a farming
are on the agenda.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, but busy monthcoming in November, but a cheer farming
events throughout throughout the country and most of the dairy areas.
The first one kicks off on the on the seventh
of November in Marinsville. See, these events are really for anyone,
those those that are looking at going into shere miking,
or even farm owners that are looking at putting sheer
milkers on. I mean, this is the this is the
(04:24):
time of year where you want to be doing those
numbers and working out hak it doesn't stack up or
what does it mean who has to pay for what?
This is where all those simple questions will get answered
and also some more detailed questions. If you are a
sheamoker and your year you may be, you know, try
trying to work out your farming system or work out
what your agreement means. It's again a good place to
head along and to to find out exactly what the
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answers are.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
One area that Federated Farmers, in my opinion anyhow, has
been doing a good job and as battling these stupid
freshwater regulations. And I know that. I like, we talk
about battleground staf in the United States, but the battleground
province almost for fresh water reform is right here where
I am. Otago.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, you're in the heart of it. And Luke Canaan
as a provincial team there and Otago are doing a
fantastic job for feeds. You know, fight in a good fight.
I mean, we've got a central government and that's recognized
that you know, we need to get farming cranking, we
need we need to do it to tobacco economy. And
yet our regional councils don't seem to be picking up
(05:29):
on their message. And it's not that we don't want
to achieve the same results as what they're talking about.
It's just that we want to do it in a
practical and an affordable way. No one that's going to
send us all broke.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Why is at the Otago Regional Council railing so much
against well, I'm not going to say the majority. I
think the split on the council is seven to five.
They seem to be determined to stay in their camps.
But you've got Environment Minister Penny Simmons, my old primary
school mate. She's told them to pull their head and
they're not listening.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It baffles me. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, there is a
new changing of the tight and new new direction of
treble on which we're going and it's taking a while
for their councils to get on board and need their message.
So I mean, we've got local body elections coming up
next year. I guess there'll be answerable to those that
have wroting them in and hopefully you know, everyone gets
(06:24):
down votes and we get them sorted once and for all,
because yeah, we do need some drastic action. I think
they've got a bit loose over the years.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, well they charged far too much for their rates.
But I wouldn't be the only one complaining about regional
council rates right around the country. Just to finish on,
you made your name on social media before you became
famous as the president of Federated Farmers. I see the
apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. His son's been
doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, I'm worried about what they meant.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, no, I mean Michelle just told me that he
celebrated finishing school by cleaning the tractor on social media.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know that is right. They had a bit of
a celebration down at school and took the couple of
the boys took the tractors and then so I said, well,
if you want to take our tractor and son, you've
got to give it a clean. So got one job
done for me anyway. But yeah, I had my oldest
finished school health of an achievement. Really, you know, we
sometimes underestimate the small things. But he's also bigger and
better things now and we'll see where he ends up.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is he going to get into a bit of nudity
with the milking apron like yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I've had to pull back from that sort of stuff
I'm statesman now, Jamie, I can't be doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Where where's he going? Is he going to Lincoln or something?
What's he doing after school?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Heating down to Canterbury University signed up for next year.
You've got a few ideas down there, so that'd be
interesting to see where he ends up.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, he might be like dad. He might find his
wife on day one. That's university, like you did.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You've been hearing stories.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
No, no, no, she told us the story, and then
she said she wrote in the diary the first day
after she met you, I met a guy called Wayne Langford.
What a dick.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I must have done something right after that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I think you won are over anyhow, it looks like
you're winning some of the farmers over here in New Zealand. Wayne,
good work. You guys at Federated Farmers are doing a
good work and doing good work on behalf of New
Zealand farmers. We certainly need strong advocacy. Keep it up.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh, I appreciate that. You know we'll get stuckond for
everyone and every farmer.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Out there got on you. There we go, Wayne Langford.
Kicking off the show today Halloween, Michelle, what well? What
is Halloween? Do you know what Halloween is?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I do, actually, Jamie, so ready for your history relea.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Sir, Yes I am, because I've just come back this
old bore you first with the travel story. Everywhere in
America or in the States, pumpkins are sitting outside of
houses in the middle of cities.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It's crazy. And the orange over there, which really blows
my mind. We don't see orange ones here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, there is a big orange pumpkin. He's called Donald
Trump and he's standing for the presidency of the United States.
But I mean I googled it very quickly before we
got we got to air, and it's that it have
its origins as a pagan religious celebration to welcome the
harvest at the end of summer. No.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, there's a lot of variations on it so as
actually a Christian holiday, but it goes right back to
Celtic time. So it is celebrated in Europe Scotland, you know, England, Germany, France,
all those places, but not as big as as as
you can.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, okay, so that's a northern hemisphere thing. If we're
celebrating harvest at the end of summer this, why are
we doing it in the Southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
The same reason that we have Snowman on our Christmas
cards at Christmas time, probably, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, that is a very good answer. Well done, right,
Well take a break. I'm very excited. I'm very excited
because up next he's one of my favors here on
the country. The Prince of the province is Martua Shane Jones.
He is in Sydney. He sent me a text earlier
this morning. He is in Sydney. Oh here's the good
bit of thriller. Ah that sounds like Shane Jones at
(10:04):
a mining conference in Sydney. He's up next on the country.
He is the Prince of the Province's Marta Shane Jones.
And I reckon he has to be like a pig
in market at the moment, because Shane, you are at
a mining conference with nine thousand other people in Sydney.
(10:28):
This would be like a wet dream for you. I
shouldn't say that, should I.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
It came to sixty five years worth of dreaming. That's
all come true. Nine thousand people. I had the pleasure
of addressing them on behalf of New Zealand and basically
putting up the neon light that the last six to
nine years of this dwarfish antagonism towards mining is over
(10:54):
the Aussies that are visiting at the Bung they actually
want to see. Firstly, the fast track leaders take rout
on the parliamentary landscape. But more importantly they just cannot
get over that we're likely to have the most efficient
regime in the OECD for the allocation of mining permits.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Are you going to invite the Aussies overhead and dig
up New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
You know, I gave twenty million when I was a
provincial Growth minister to a project obviously on commercial terms
down the West Coast a crowd called Paration Mining and
they rapidly paid it back, and the Aussies piled in
and put two hundred million dollars into the fund. So
they're already arriving. They're turned on by the fact that
we've got antinomy, which is a rare earth mineral associated
(11:42):
with gold under reftin, and we've got a host of
other valuable resources tied up with the mineral sands and
the iron sands across the iron sand at the moment
is sub misinformation by the people that have left New
Zealand the offshore in people bringing them the iron sand
(12:03):
mining permits. Of course that's not true.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now there's a few protesters in Coramnandel who are none
too pleased with you.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I can't understand these people. We are in Coromandel drilling
under the ground. There is no sinaio, no frog, no
multicolored skink or indeed dope grow who will be offended
by gold mining many many meters hundreds of meters under
the earth. Now this speaks to the ideological narrowness and
(12:31):
quite frankly, this hobbit like thinking. We see too much
in various parts of Coromandel where they don't want economic
development and they seem to think that it's called just
to live on the doll.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Now you're in a mining conference, as I said in Sydney,
you've been you must be conferenced out because you've also
been at an energy conference in Singapore, and you've been
inviting the Singaporeans, if that's the correct terminology, over to
New Zealand as well. You're inviting the whole world to
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I know you're going to say New Zealand first lot
about your historic aversion to overseas investment. Of course, we
retain those doubting Thomas eyes, certainly when it gets to
pastoral land and strategic assets, including the fishing assets. But look, mate,
if the Singaporeans want to invest strategically with us and
(13:26):
enjoy an experience of pay to play because they're concerned
about food security, some of the food they need they
couldn't get it in suitable quantities during COVID. They've been
invited down by my colleague Todd McLay to come and
look at the food industry and spy various opportunities. And
one of the entities that we met with is Olham.
(13:47):
They used to be involved in the dairy industry. I
think an open country, and now they've come back again
and they've built a factory and took the raw. I'm
conscious of the fact that we don't want to unwittingly
weaken the position from terror and other players. But we're
an open market economy, mind you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If you and Winston had your way, we would be
like Singapore. Winston's very much a disciple of remind me
of the great Singaporean leader. Help you leak on you,
thank you, yes, yeah, Nanna.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Winston realizes, which is why he's promoted one hundred billion
dollar reserve fund to recapitalize and redevelop our country in
terms of our infrastructure and other developments. But Singapore similar
sized people. They're very appreciative of the legacy of service
for sixty years. We've recognized their diplomatic connection with US
(14:40):
next year. So there's nothing wrong. We're finding a like minded,
clean pair of hands to come down and join up
with the current asset owners, the people investing in water,
like Murray McCully and the trust up north. I think
there's a great future for Singapore and New Zealand food collaboration.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Let's finish on the US election. I know that you
spent time in the US. You studied at Harvard. I
was there recently, not studying, Shane, just looking. But I'm
picking Trump. I think he's going to win those swing states.
He's going to get home. That's not a good news
story for New Zealand, and I know you have to
tread carefully on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, So it's going to come down to those battleground states. Pennsylvania, Ohio,
Arizona and all tied. Seems to be going in Trump's
direction in those particular states. You know, only sixty six
percent of the voters bothered to turn out from twenty twenty,
and it's odds on that the turnout won't be as
large this time around. But irrespective of who wins, we're
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an open trading economy, and where there are obstacles erected
that impede our ability to profit from trade in such
a huge market such as the United States of America,
then we've all got to be on a state of
high alert. That's why it's important to diversify our trade.
I know there's a lot of effort going into India,
but I think you're right in the sense that the
(16:06):
Democrats might win the popular vote, but you have to
win the electoral votes in key number of limited states,
and unless you win them, you cannot be the president
of the United States of America. And the signs are
all going towards mister Trump pulling off those highly contested states.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I bet you you'll be excited, and I'll bet you
you'll be like me. You'll be glued to the telly
watching the coverage. This would almost be as good, Shane,
as a mining conference for you.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I'm accepting Jerry Browny's invitation to go and drink the
gin and share some time with a bunch of others
as the results come rolling in. But hey, you know,
there's a showbiz dimension to it. There's a lot of
celebrity culture. But like yourself, I've been and out of
the States and don't ever bet against America.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Shane Jones, thanks for your time from Sydney. You enjoy
the rest of your mining conference.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
You're to mate, see you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Thank you, Shane twenty seven up to twelve. You are
with the Country, right. I got told off. I got
told off Michelle by the writer of our script for
the Country and Heartland Chips promo.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, you were a little bit abusive yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, I didn't realize that said person had written the script.
It was probably the best written script I've ever misread.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You try and dig yourself out of the hume.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm like Trump, I misspoke, I misspoke. So we've decided
to bring the Chat, the Cans and the Chips together,
a collaboration like no other.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Who wrote this someone absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well look at the spelling mistake there. I'll have to
talk to said person about the script. Okay, here's the deal.
So next Tuesday we're launching the Farmer's Poor, which is
the Emerson's Bear, the Extra Crispy Pallel along with the
Heartland Ships. We're having a fun afternoon or lunch at
Emerson's here in Duned and you're welcome to come along
(18:07):
and join us. You can have a bear and you
can have a chip sandwich, white bread, chips dip, another
bit of white bread on top.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Bang.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
How good is that?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And we are giving away some fun packs from right
around the country. We gave away well we haven't packaged
them up yet, but we're good for it, trust us.
We had a couple of winners from yesterday's show.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
We did so, one from the North, one from the South,
congratulations to rain a Chest from Cambridge and Finn Torrents
from Dunedin.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well Fin, if you were listening, you might want to
come along and join us on Tuesday. Anyone can. And
the other thing is because Brant are our sponsors, we're
always looking to leverage the situation here on the country.
It is just the way in commercial radio. What we
would like is a green tractor, a John Dare tractor.
So if you want to if you're out on the
tiree or somewhere like that. Or you've got a John
(18:55):
Dare and you within cooey of us, drop us a
text on five double nine, ring your tractor along, we'll
park it out in front of Emerson's and we'll give
you some beer and some chips.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Sounds like a good deal to me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, okay, So five double O nine a text number
if you've got a John Deere attractor somewhere near Dunedin
and we promise to look after you after the break
we are going to Are we going to give away
some more fun packs today?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, we'll give away a cup more?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yep? Okay, five double O nine's at text numbers. So
just give us your name and your courier address and
we'll pick a one winner from the North Island, one
from the South. Can't be fairer than that. And just
remembering or repeating those chip flavors maple bacon, green onions,
salt and vinegar. I had some salt and vinegar when
I got home from golf last night. They might be
(19:43):
my new favorites ahead of the maple bacon. Now up
next rural news and sports news. Before the end of
the air. Mike Casey is in Wogga Wogga, the Central
Otago cherry grower and our Ossie correspondent is Chris Russell.
More Halloween music for you, Hungry like the Wolf Duran Duran,
(20:06):
what a great eighties band. Here's Michelle with the latest
and rural news.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The Country's Rural News with Cob Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower Brand. Visit steel for dot co
dot NZB for your local stockist.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Mental health and wellbeing advocates want the government to address
health inequities people are living with and rural communities and
if it's to improve outcomes for those living outside main
centers with mental health. The government is asking for feedback
on a suicide prevention plan for the next five years.
Monitor how Autoministry of Health plant are proposed establishing a
(20:42):
community fund focused on populations with higher needs, including rural
and maternal communities. And that's rural news. You can find
more at the Country dot co dot NZ.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Sport with AFCO visit them online at a fco dot
co dot Nz.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The New Zealand Warriors have signed Gold Coast Titans half
back Tana Boyd on a two year contract starting next season.
The twenty five. Twenty four year old has played sixty
nine NRL matches since his first grade debut in twenty nineteen.
Manchester United fenn fans are having a day to remember.
Not only have the Red Devils made the quarterfinals of
(21:18):
the League Cup, crosstown rivals man City have been knocked
out of the comp by Spurs and Formula No. I
won't do Formula one. I'll do Joel King because squash
doesn't get enough coverage. Keewi squash player Joel King shown
plenty of grit at the Chaina Open in Shanghai, saving
a match ball before beating a woman from Malaysia. Did
(21:42):
you see your name on the list? There was no
way I was going to split that one out before
beating a woman from Malaysia fifteen to thirteen in the
fifth and deciding game of their first round match. And
that is your sports news. Up next, our second trip
across the Tasman Today Mike Casey's and Wagawa Australia is
(22:05):
dominating the show today. Let's go there again. The Prince
of the province is Shane Jones. He's at a mining
conference in Sydney. Mike Casey, mister Electric vehicle farming. I
think I can call him that Central Otago cherry grower
all round. Good bloke. You're at a conference as well, now,
Mike at Greenee, like you wouldn't be at the mining
(22:25):
conference with the old Prince of the provinces.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Well, I have to say, you know, I spent twelve
years in Sydney and I feel like he's hanging out
with the greenies over there at the moment, whereas I'm
in the heartland of New South Wales and Waggle Wogger.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
What brings you to Wagga Wogga.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I'm at the Digital Agriculture Summits at Charlester University, which
is basically invited over to talk to a whole bunch
of farmers in the region about what I've done with
moving to electric and basically the economics and the operational
savings that I've been able to achieve.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Hey, Mike, is or are electric vehicles so twenty twenty three?
Have they gone out of fashion now?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I just bought a new one and I reckon it's
the best car I've ever driven, So I'd say it's
very much still twenty twenty four at the moment, but
it's all going to come down to economics, right, Like,
at the end of it, you know, you can argue
about what fuel type is better for various reasons, from climate,
through the range, through how fast it goes, through whatever
you fancy. But at the end of it, like it's
(23:27):
all about the economics and whether or not electric vehicles
stack up over there over their lifetime, which I'm fairly
adamant they do, especially in rural New Zealand where we
drive so many keys, it's just so much cheaper per
kilometer that eventually.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, but that's all very well, being cheaper per kilometer,
but you can't charge them anywhere.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Well, I think something like ninety five percent of the
I actually kind of start out yesterday about ninety five
percent of the kilometers driven in New Zealand in Australia.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Are charged at home.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
So that's a really significant amount of energy that actually
just comes from home.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, but hang on, Mike, I'll play Devil's advocate here.
That's town needs who are driving commuting too and from
work and plugging in the vehicle and at night. And
that's fine, But if you're wanting to drive four or
five hundred kilometers, different story.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Oh, totally right. And so this is you know occasionally,
you know, the long trip that I take is from
Cromwell through to christ Church. I do that fairly regularly,
like to stop and fairly for a pie. That I'll
tell you what, it is, awfully frustrating when you're stopping
fairly for a pie and there's someone already at that
charging station, you got to wait for them. You end
up having two piles. You're not getting a bit fat.
(24:35):
So the long story short is yes, like right now,
when you think about it, your own driving, probably about
ninety percent of the cave that you do will be
you know, trips that go out during the day and
come home to rest at nighttime, and you probably don't
do four hundred k's in a day. But for those
drivers that do do regular driving into city, I think
I agree with you. Until the infrastructure picks up, it's
(24:56):
always going to be a bit difficult to make that
as an efficient trip is driving a pitch?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What about the restyle of evs.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I personally hit that exact dilemma at the moment. So
we bought some conas in some FILMLI conas in twenty twenty,
and they snuck in just under the eighty thousand dollar mark.
I think there were seventy nine grand, so we could
get their clean car rebase and what that was twenty
twenty it's now twenty twenty four, and I think they're
worth about twenty five grand each, with about one hundred
(25:27):
and forty thousand k's on the clock each. And that's
simply because the technology has just got so much better. Right,
you can buy far better brand new cars for far
far cheaper now, So of course the second hand vehicles
aren't going to retain their value I think that's going
to settle down after a while. I just bought the
new k At EV nine, which is a big seven seater,
(25:48):
for about the same price, you know, eighty thousand dollars,
about the same price they bought the Conas in twenty twenty.
So it sort of just shows you that the technology
is improving so fast you can't really expect these secondhand
vehicles to hold on to a lot of the capital
value at the moment.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, you have proven that you can have EV vehicles,
namely tractors on horticulture operations. That'll be the future for
EV tractors, not out on the hills.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Yeah, I mean I think at the moment that's one
hundred percent right, you know, Like I've got a fifty
five horse power tractor, it can do anything about an
eighty to ninety horse power diesel tractor can do. So
it's pretty powerful in terms of like the instant talk
and stuff. But I'm not going to get anyone and say,
you know, it's going to be able to do a
job of a two hundred horse power tractor. It simply
isn't designed for that. We haven't seen any big tractors
(26:34):
come off the market yet. I did get to sit
in a cab of one hundred and sixty horse power
electric tractor in San Francisco a while ago, so they
are coming. But I think you know, as blokes like
you and me, we often focus on the large machines,
But the large machines are the most difficult to look
at it going down this pathword, whereas in many cases
it's all the small machines added together are actually hugely
(26:55):
the expensive parts. So you just got to focus on
what's good and really just do the numbers to work
out what's what's most economical for your family and for
your farm.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Really, Mike Casey final question for you did you go
to Woggle Woggle, New South Wales to get away from
the weather. In Central Otago. You had snow in the weekend.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
It was it was pretty gnarly. Yah, we got super
lucky in central where we were, just in Mount Pie's
are there where the lake, the body of water Lake
Dunston really do good job of heating up that snow
and turning it to drizzle by the time it had
our orchard. But I do feel pretty sorry for you know,
those orchards over and Quiet and Alex and maybe further
(27:34):
into Central Otago that got pretty bad. These late temperature freezers,
whether it be foster, whether it be snow, usually means
a huge amount of fruit shedding. So we'll have to
hear in the next couple of weeks as to what
that fruit shedding looks like on the trees and over
there and see whether it's going to affect overall crops.
But he's hoping, he's hoping they dodged it, but you
(27:55):
just don't know at the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hey, Mike Casey, always good to catch up on the country.
Safe travels home from Waggle Wogger.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Thank you, my friend. I'm heading into christ just next
and catching up with a couple of farmers over there.
So yeah, I'll be back on home sool soon.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Thanks Mike. It is seventeen away from one. You're with
the country. Look if you're entering for the chips and
the bear, the bear from Emerson's, the extra Crispy Pale
Ale and the chips from Heartland, Sultan, Vinegar green Onnge
and Maple Bacon. I just can't make up the mind
which is the best one. When you text us through
(28:29):
on five double nine, give us your name and not
just the town you're from. Give us your career address
right your rd address, so that if we pick you
we can just send it straight off to you. Eventually,
I think we'll get it there. Some of your feedback,
Mike says his electric car, this is Mike Casey is
the best car he's ever driven, but he's obviously never
(28:49):
driven a hold in V eight another one sixty thousand
dollars to change a four year old car. Only an
electric cherry farmer could afford to do that. FFS not
realistic for the average bloke. And my screen keeps flicking
on because you're all entering for the fun packs from Emerson's.
And Heartland's Chip and Chips and why wouldn't you up
(29:11):
next our third visit to Australia. It's a Rossie correspondent
Chris Russell. More bear bears dominating the show as well
today Long Rag Australia absolutely dominating the show today our
third visit there with our Rossie correspondent Chris Russell. Chris,
(29:31):
a great story about the Mungen Dai pub and how
many kegs a bear it's selling as a barometer of
the successful harvest on the boundary between New South Wales
and Queensland. Tell me more well man, And.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
It's just a little town, about six hundred people there normally,
but the rush to get big crops and wheat, chickpeas
and so on harvested has everybody running off their feet
and they measure the success of their harvest in kegs
of beer a wheet they go through. Now, typically in
the non harvest time they're about six or six keg town. Well,
(30:07):
at the moment they're doing a thirty five keg town
and the pubs had to put on eight extra workers,
so the normal four there has gone up to twelve workers.
And in a time when they've had droughts and COVID
nineteen border because they're right on the border, and they
had three shops actually burned down in the last few
years in the town. But this year it's looking like
an absolute boomer. And if you measure it by bacon
(30:30):
in the where they do bacon and egg rolls, they're
up to about twenty kilos of bacon. So the whole
town is humming and the people are really happy. So
it looks like it's going to be a great harvest
this year, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Now, when it comes to reducing a greenhouse gas emissions
from ruminants, and that's your area of expertise, Chris Russ,
asparusgopsis might not be the cure al.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Yeah, well, asparagdropsis of course. Is this algae that they've
found actually reduces signific reduces the methane production by about
eighty five percent. It's mainly applied for feed lot cattle
costs because you've got to mix it up with the
feed only a small amount. The problem is that its
main active is a thing called bromoform, which is based
(31:14):
on bromine and it's a known cancer causing agent. Now,
the Europeans have already said they won't allow any beef
into Europe which has been fed on bromaforms and the
United States Environmental Protection Agency has classified this as a
human cast intergen so they're also not going to use it.
And yet there's so much money at the moment being
(31:36):
spent on building up, you know, production of this asparagopsi
is to try and meet our methane emission targets in
the beef industry. The good news news they've has also
been researching Queensland to find that a ground up hemp
extract that seems to have a similar effect and it
hasn't had any bromiform in it at all, and it
only costs about ten percent of what the asparagops has cost.
(31:58):
So there may be some sunch on the horizon, But
I just wonder about the amount of money this being's
spent on, fact.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You to produce this jomie your Prime Minister Anthony Albinizi,
And I'm not sure how long he's going to keep
the job for this follows in a long line of
very disappointing Australian prime ministers. If you don't mind me
saying so, I reckon the last decent one you had
was John Howard, But he has been caught out red handed, basically,
hasn't he with his nose on the trough? How's that
(32:24):
going down with your ever, Joka.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Well, I saw the headline in the Telegraph last week
was perking class man. Now, of course he's always made
a big play about how his mother spent her whole
sixty five years of a life living in a housing
commission house, and he was brought up as a poor
working class kid. But by Gee, I'll tell you what
things have changed for him, and I think, look to
(32:47):
the public are getting sick of it. He's now, of course,
jetting all around the world, and the latest thing that's
been discovered is that he was upgraded twenty two times,
supposedly through contacts with Alan Joyce, who was the head
of Quatas, when he was doing over private overseas trips,
both with his son and on his own all over
(33:09):
the world. Now, of course that's not nothing unusual, and
he had of course declared it as one of the
gifts that he'd received, et cetera, et cetera. But I
think people are saying this is just another sign that
he's got his nose well and truly in the trough.
You might remember last year we had this uprising in
Alice Springs and all the crime being committed there, and finally,
under pressure, he agreed to fly to Alice Springs to
(33:31):
meet with the local town working people and with the
mayor to see if they could somehow bring some law
and order back to Alice Springs. Well, he was there
for three hours and then he flew out. Where did
he fly to stretch to the tennis Open and he
spent two days lolling about with cocktails in his hands.
That didn't go down well either with the public. So
he is definitely on the nose here. Jamie, I think
(33:53):
he's lost his idea of being the sort of knockabout
bloke that Bob Hawk was able to can maintain through
is Prime ministership. And I think this is all adding
up to a very difficult election for him, which he
needs to hold before May next year.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Jamie has the Harker done for Joe Marler? Are the
ugly English props come out and had fired a shot
and didn't take long for Steven Jones, who absolutely hates
the New Zealand and the All Blacks to have a go.
What's the view of the harker in Australia.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I think the view here would be, look, it's cute,
but it's had its day. And I think it's certainly
absolutely iniquitous that nobody else can even take one step
towards them when they're doing it, or they're going to
get massive fines. I think that's quite ridiculous. I remember
some of the intimidation that used to occur with the
French and the Australians walking up toe to toe with
(34:46):
these guys when they're doing the harker. But my own
view is that it's had its day. It was a
cute thing to do and it was part of their
tradition and everyone thought it added to the spectacular nature
of the big Games with the All Blacks, which are
a much revered team. But certainly there was a big
article in the London Sunday Times last week suggesting that
(35:10):
it's time it was dump and stopped enjoying these special
privileges and that we indulge in this sort of bully.
And I think the headline said Rugby has indulged the bullying,
pompous harker for too long, and I tend to agree
that that could well be right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Jamie, okay, Chris Russell, no comment from me, Thank you
very much for your time, no worries. Seven away from one.
You're with the country, summing feedback coming in thick and fast,
especially for the Beer and the Chips. But here's one.
Shane Jones obviously hasn't heard of doctor Allen Lytchman. I
hope I got the pronunciation right there. His prediction read
(35:49):
the US election. He hasn't been wrong in over forty
years worth listening to. Obviously, doctor Allen Lytchman is picking Carmela.
I basemine On spend quite a bit of time studying it.
But I see the money markets have got Trump at
about sixty two percent chance of victory, you know. And
(36:11):
the other thing is with the electoral college system. The
election is decided by seven battleground states, as Shane Jones said,
and I think last time I had a look, Trump
was ahead, and five of the seven it's going to
be close. The Democrats will win the popular vote, but
that doesn't get you the White House. Remember, if you're
after the Bear and the Chips, your name and your
(36:32):
full courier address will be back to wrap the show
with some of your feedback. Okay, wrapping the country with
some of your feedback. Bugger, it's my screen keeps moving.
You're all stop entering for the chips. There's a great
text in here somewhere. Where is it, Michelle? Can you
(36:53):
find it? There is? Okay, spot on with the Harker.
Maybe do it at home, but not in away games.
Hearing perin a squawk like a pubescent teenager sounds awful,
And you know, text, I'm kind of with you on that.
I wonder whether we not necessarily for all back black
games here. But I think in this country we might
be a wee bit guilty of overdoing the hark Or
(37:15):
I'll upset some people by saying that, just my opinion.
If you've got a green tractor yet, Michelle.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I haven't got a green tractor yet, Jamie, unfortunately. But
if there's anyone out there with a farm that's close
to us that would like to bring your green John
Deere tractor to Emerson's on Tuesday next week, there'll be
some beer and chips in it for you, give us
a text on five double O night.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I might have to get the new John Dere moer
from the Otago Golf will I.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Let you drive that from Ufa and Baalumakewen down.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Maybe they might, but I'll tell you what they take
the beer. I certainly know a couple of blokes in
the pro Shopper would, right he. That's us done and
dust that. We'll catch you back tomorrow with a Nadier
Limb and Carlos Baghrim.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Catule. The latest from the land, It's the Country Podcast
with Jamie McGue Thanks to Brent, your specialist in John
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