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April 16, 2025 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Tim Dangen, Jane Smith, Peter Newbold, Blair Drysdale, and Chris Russell.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deer construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
People talking well, People here well people nor.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Disturm Get Amie z elland and welcome to the Country.
I'm Jamie mckaye back in the studio. Rowena's done a
X done an excellent job holding the fort for a
couple of days while I was visiting a mate. He's
having a bit of a battle at the moment, but
it's great to be back. We're going to kick off
the show today with the twenty twenty two Young Farmer

(01:00):
of the Year Tim Dangein his sister's younger sister Emma
Paul won it the next year. The reason we want
to talk to Tim today is because he's a MIRROLLI
beef farmer just X of Auckland there and we're getting
some noisy noises. Let's get see if we can bring
him to it. Right, Okay, Tim, have I got you?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yea?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Here are you going, Jamie?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, it's all right. We're just getting a wee bit
of reverb here. I don't know where the hell that's
coming from, but anyhow, we'll battle away, tell us, tell
us talk to me about X cyclone, Tam.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
It's pretty bloody windy, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
We've had about thirty mills of rain overnight and it's
still sort of coming down steady here now, Jamie. It's
nothing too crazy though, mate, his power out and parts
of West Auckland. But to be fair, whenever the bloody
weather sneezes up here, the power seems to go out.
So yep, we'll just bend down the hectches and might
be in for a stormy couple of days.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I guess he's still welcoming the rainfall.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Absolutely, yeah, yep, yep, Yeah, we don't mind having no
power for a couple of days and a few trees
down because this is the end of the drought for us.
I'd say it's suddainly greened up since that last rain
at the start of April. And yeah, a little top
up like this is just gold for us. So we're
up and away, Jamie. Which is good growing grass and
happy farmers.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah exactly. And when you're farming at the top end
of the North Island like you are, you're still going
to get meaningful grass growth, certainly through April and May,
and you grow a bit during the winter, unlike your
southern counterparts.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Absolutely, Yeah, summer is our challenging period for us up here, Jamie.
So I think it's still about twenty one degrees today,
and you will carry on growing really good grass right
up till June, and even through June and July to
b fair soil temperatures stay up above that sort of
twelve head end degree. So yeah, we're happy to finally
have some decent rainfall and everything's looking green, and the
stock are a lot happier, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Have you been talking to your younger sister Emma down
and the White Gadow, are they is the drought over
down there?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
I'd say they're getting a fair bit of this as well.
I haven't heard from em this morning, but yeah, they
got most parts of the white catto. As we know,
we got that rain in early April, So yeah, this
sort of follow rain is just important as the first one,
isn't it. So I'd say the white cattle will be
up and away and all those farmers that managed to
hang in there feed and supplement to their dairy cows
will be grateful that they did. And hom the grass

(03:23):
will be dancing away, for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It'll be a great Easter present for all the North
Island farmers, especially because actually the South Island, apart from
a wee area Inland north Otago, is pretty good. So
we hope that it's a drought breaker for all you
North Island farmers. You're a beef farmer, Tim, two questions
for you, what are you going to do with all
your money this year? Because you'll be making a fortune

(03:46):
and you'll probably be spending that fortune buying some calves.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
I'm not sure about a fortune, mate, but we've got
a bit of debt to repay over the last couple
of years that have been really tight, so you sort
of need, you know, back to back high prices, I think,
to drive some real confidence back into us. But we're
certainly optimistic at the moment. We've just been a little
bit cautious. And yes, the store market has gone pretty
crazy up here. As very unusual to see the beef

(04:14):
schedule not drop away and to drive somemer like what
we've had, and that just all has signaled around procurement basically,
so have been large shortages of stocked and stock and
that's largely due to a lack of calve's been read
over the last few years, so the feeder calf prices
up here have gone absolutely crazy. We normally do about

(04:35):
three to four hundred autumn calves, so we've sort of
stared away from it this year. And yeah, we just
think there's a little bit too much risk associated with
paying four hundred dollars for four day old black white
facebaall calves. So yeah, it'd be interesting times to see
how this plays out in this coming spring. But at
least the calves are back being read, so yeah. It's
funny with beef farming, it takes a couple of years

(04:57):
for the cycle to even at south out, so although
the will be read this year, it often takes a
year or two for the follow through to even the
prices out.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Jamie, you're a learned and scholarly sort of chap. That's
why you won the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final. Tim,
what do you make of Trump? And as tariffs.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
You're stretching again the mate. But it's been interesting to
see it play out, and and as most people have
been commentating, I think it's the wider economic effects rather
than the direct terrorists themselves that will have an impact
on us long term. I think the next six months seems,
you know, really positive. So that's all we can really
hope for. And and what plays out beyond that, nobody knows,

(05:38):
I don't think. So you sort of have to take
the good money while it's there and invest it wisely.
We're repaying a little bit of debt and and putting
putting any seplaces back into investments on the farm. So
there's there's no no flash holidays or batches been brought
up here.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Mate, Well you did buy a ride on MOA for
your money.

Speaker 8 (05:56):
The prison that was the prison from yea more than deserve.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You're a wonderful son. I know you haven't got the
power on and you've got to charge up your phone
so we won't use all your battery. Thanks for some
of your time to do appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, any room, stay safe Eulier eight.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
As I see on the main news that they said
drive this is the midday news, Drive like your life
depends on it. Ruena Duncan's wandered into the studio. Michelle
will be back next week. It's musical chairs in here,
isn't it? Ro Good afternoon? Thanks for filling in for
a couple of days. I appreciate that, Oh my absolute pleasure.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
And I must say, look, if one of us, out
of the two of us, was going to drive like
our life depended on it, we'd certainly have me behind
the wheel and you and the passenger seat.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
Jamie.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, I'll tell you what. I've been clocking up some
kilometers recently in the high lux hybrid magnificent vehicle. I
must say, though I just want to I'm an angry driver.
I'm not a very good driver. I shouldn't be saying that,
just in case Teoda are listening, but it's a well
known fact. But having clocked up kilometers visiting mates and
and being at the South Island Airy event, here's something

(07:03):
for the police, who I absolutely support one hundred percent,
Unlike those halfwits in the Green Green Party who were
on about the police. The police do a wonderful job.
But I reckon on our roads, Rowena. And this isn't
a gripe at camp events, because I've done that to death. Yes,
but people who drive at I don't know, eighty or
eighty five kilometers an hour on the open road, dangerous,

(07:24):
dangerous in the six or seven cars behind that. I've
seen so much of it in the past couple of weeks.
And do you know what I reckon? I reckon the
cops should be out there and ticketing those people.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
They used to a while ago. I remember back when
I was first a journalist, so we're talking well prior
to twenty ten. Often they would have planes up over
the Munuwa two just actually looking for vehicles that were
holding up strings of traffic and stuff during the main
summer holidays. It's a good way of being able to
see it from their air. Just a text in from

(07:58):
Sir David Fagan. Of course farming there. The rain seems
to be going around him. He wants some of the rain.
It's not head x.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
And I'm looking at my knee with drought index map here. David,
thanks for listening. We appreciate a farming celebrity like yourself
listening in. But I'm looking yea, he will be hating me.
But I'm looking at you know, south Way kato Kin
Country region. It's as dry as well. It's the driest
part of the country. So I hope David and all
you farmers in that region. In fact, all the dry

(08:28):
regions in the North Island. I hope x cyclone Tam
does her wicked worst with you rainfall wise. I'm talking
about rainfall wise. Up next to Jane Smith from North Otago.
No problems with droughts there, they're having a great season.
She's up next on the Country.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Silent.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So Jane Smith's a bit of a regular hair on
the country, North Otago farmer coming to town for the day.
Also a former winner of the Balance Farm Environment Awards,
and she's all about the sounds of silence today, Jane Smith,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 11 (09:18):
Good afternoon, Jamie.

Speaker 10 (09:19):
I just think there's a number of elephants in the
room at the moment that the media seemed to be
sort of dodging and it just seemed to be silent
on And one of those is, for example, the night
Tahoo the High Court taking the Crown to the High
Court at the moment, and that's for the control pursuing
the recognition and control over fresh water in the South Island.

(09:41):
I think they call it chiefly authority, and they say
they don't want ownership, they only want authority, so and
I guess they've disguised it as wanting to improve water quality.

Speaker 11 (09:51):
Isn't that what we are all working towards and.

Speaker 10 (09:54):
Doing and actually really gaining some really good ground on.
And it's interesting Jamie that us Finlinson, who's of course
the ex Attorney General, he was the Minister of the
treaty negotiation, that she did a pretty reasonable job of that.
But of course he is now working for NAH on
this court case taking the Crown to court, and good
on Cederaated fharmacists.

Speaker 11 (10:15):
Standing up and doing a stellar job in that.

Speaker 10 (10:17):
It'll be a hell of a pressure cooker situation, but
this has set a massive precedent for the country going forward.
So I'd love to see some more media coverage on that, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, I need to get my backside into gear and
go into back with Federated Farmers on that one. In
my mind, the water belongs to us all. What about
the ge bill you reckon? This is going to slip
past the goalie in silence.

Speaker 10 (10:39):
Yeah, Well it's really interesting, Jamie, it really has been,
and it's a very short time frame, and I guess
it's really.

Speaker 11 (10:44):
Interesting that other I guess the opposition.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
I'm really surprised the Opposition haven't asked the more time,
more Select Committee discussion around this, and it's not whether
we should or shouldn't.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
And gene technology is not new.

Speaker 10 (10:56):
I mean, we've had gene technology in some shape or
form the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 11 (11:01):
But what they're looking at here is a pretty open.

Speaker 10 (11:04):
Ended process and control that there will be no process
and no control if this goes through in its current
form disguised as being needed for egritech and I guess
lux And has his eye on Silicon Valley money. But
if this does go through, New Zealand will be the
least regulated ge country potentially in the world, far greater

(11:25):
than Australia, etc. So rather than just an unfitted sort
of opening up. But surely we should be having a
conversation about that, Jamie. But again silence.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I thought we were going to go to the same
standards as Australia.

Speaker 10 (11:36):
No, it certainly looks like we're actually going to be
opening up even wider than that, Jamie. And I guess,
as I said, is that because we're looking for some
new new money and new investments. And like I certainly
do agree with some of the technology that we may
may need for peace and possibly weed control, but gosh,
some of it also has been sold as.

Speaker 11 (11:55):
Being needed like for example, metha mitigation.

Speaker 10 (11:58):
And you know my thoughts on that, Jamie Hills and
potions for no reason at all, But that is, you know,
that is a great concern that it's just you know,
there's no discussion. I think that at the very least
there should be good discussion, if not a referendum. Jamie.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You mentioned Federated Farmers and they have done a sterling job,
especially when it comes to things like the banking inquiry
on behalf of not only farmers but business people in
this country. You reckon that's gone quiet as well.

Speaker 10 (12:21):
Well, it seems of Jamie, even though actually behind the
scenes it's.

Speaker 11 (12:24):
Really actually get up and I think there was over.

Speaker 10 (12:27):
Fifteen hundred individuals have shed some pretty harrowing stories in
terms of bullying by their banks over the years. I
know there's a couple of very good books that have
been written by a farmer on the West coast, Gray
Equal that are always looking at and I know he's
been involved. But you know, that inquiry is really fundamental
to our being really because as any business people or

(12:49):
personal personal bankers, et cetera.

Speaker 11 (12:52):
And it's now opened.

Speaker 10 (12:53):
Up a course to include the righteousness around banks that
have got into, you know, that the whole climate change debacle,
and now it's really good that that's being looked into
because it won't be long and those banks will also
be those that are the part of their agu zero
Ponzi scheme, will also be trying to force upon us

(13:14):
again their pills and potions to as solutions to the
problem that doesn't potentially exist, Jamie. So I think we
need a bit more coverage on.

Speaker 11 (13:22):
That as well, Jamie.

Speaker 10 (13:22):
Really important for all New Zealanders.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Do we really have to talk about sapazi mari.

Speaker 11 (13:27):
Oh, Jamie, I just about yeah.

Speaker 10 (13:29):
I felt a bit nauseous looking at some of their
new policies. One of them, and I won't take up
too much time, but was to abolish acc That sounds
really clever. A levy on all properties sold or least
in New Zealand, and that's going to be used.

Speaker 11 (13:43):
To run their married parliament. And remember Raweri.

Speaker 10 (13:48):
Y Tt said he wasn't a fan of democracy, so
that'll be interesting. I think that they want something like
fifty percent of all teaching in New Zealand to be
based on terreo.

Speaker 11 (13:57):
Now that is a considering. We're a country.

Speaker 10 (13:59):
That's only just restarting to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic properly, Jamie.

Speaker 11 (14:04):
That is concerning.

Speaker 10 (14:05):
And of course the old yeah, the old hardy annual
of getting rid of all prisons, Jamie, how's that going
to go down?

Speaker 11 (14:12):
So yeah, very very unpalatable. And I don't know if
we'll call them to party Murray.

Speaker 10 (14:16):
I think it's almost sort of ye like as I said,
domestic terrorism, lest reading that, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
They're a joke and they're the reason that Chris Sipkins,
as long as his backsides pointing to the ground, won't
be Prime Minister. No one wants them running the country.
Can I just finished really quickly because I'm short on time.
How are things in North Otaga? You guys are having
a pretty good season.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
We certainly are, Jamie, And as you and I always
feel little bit guilty because we usually are getting hammered,
particularly in autumn. But now we're having a really, really
good season, and so that's that's good, and that bodes well.
Everything is very positive at the moment generally in farming,
and we just we just need some of these other
things to be aired and discussion had Jamie, and just
you know, keep the democracy that we all.

Speaker 11 (14:56):
Fight for in New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Absolutely, And I did go up your way recently for
the South Island Airy event and I must say that
North Otago South Kendleby looking an absolute picture. Jane Smith,
thanks for your time. Enjoy your day out on the
big smoke.

Speaker 10 (15:10):
Thanks Jamie, Yes.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Thank you, Jane Rowena Duncan's in the studio. You're going
hunting this weekend? Yes, and you've been bludget at my
place all this week I have. I haven't been there,
but thanks you delightful. Actually yeah it probably has. But
you realized there's no such thing as a free lunch.
You got to bring back some wild venison.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
How's your aim?

Speaker 9 (15:31):
Well with a rifle? Absolutely fine with a shotgun as
I tried the laser kind of clay at the weekend.
Absolutely rubbish. Ducks are always pretty safe around me at
duck shooting. I'm there for the riz, Jamie. I bring
the riz.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Hey, if you think I'm a bad driver, you want
to see me on the end of the shotgun. Yeah,
luckily I'm retired from that. I think I'm just a
social conveno.

Speaker 9 (15:51):
But no, your freezer will be full, I promise.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
Well.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
That's good.

Speaker 10 (15:53):
I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I'm happy with that. That's a fair deal. Now talking
about ducks, there's a plague of them at the moment
down on South and we're going to talk to an
arable farmer down there, Blair Drysdale before the end of
the Chris Russell Rossie correspondent as well. But up next
it's our monthly look at the state of the rural
real estate market. Don't say that one quickly. How much

(16:15):
is your farm worth? We're going to tell you next
with Peter Newbold from PGG Rights.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
And so monthly here on the country we have a

(16:47):
look at the state of the rural landmarket.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
How much is your farm worth? Can you sell one?
At the moment? Peter Newbold is the GM of PGG
Rights in real estate and Peter from the Highs the
COVID frenzy. I think of what twenty one, twenty two
or round about there to the lows of the last
couple of years, and now we're starting to see the
rural markets take off again.

Speaker 12 (17:10):
Yeah. Look, there's a clear sign if I go back,
you know that's sort of sixteen through to twenty twenty.
You know, we're sort of averaging around four billion, and
then twenty twenty one it just dropped off a cliff
to about two billion, and then twenty two we had
that big boost, went up to four and a half
and now we're sitting roughly just under three billion. So

(17:33):
to me, that sends a clear signal that things are
on the move, which is really positive. And just to
give your listeners a comparison, the lifestyle market sits at
about six billion and at its peak was ten billion,
so you can see the rural market is a small marketplace,
but you know, small moves we're seeing at the moment

(17:56):
is really encouraging and I think we're seeing that coming
through it where the sales are any strong.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay, a lifestyle a lifestyle market that was worth ten
billion at the COVID peak. That's a peter that's a
lot of productive land that's got houses and horses on it.

Speaker 12 (18:15):
Yeah. Look when you look around now you look at
all these well moving out from the big metropolitans, but
even provincial New Zealand, there's a lot of lifestyle blocks. Also,
what you'll see too is a lot of more of
these smaller fifty hectare sort of what i'd call grazing blocks,
and again there's demand for those. But definitely if you
look around some of these larger provincial towns, now there's

(18:38):
a lot of lifestyle activity which creates a whole lot
of other demands. But yeah, definitely it has. It's had
an impact in some areas well. Again, I look at
rural and it's moving in the direct direction, which is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, let's look at the biggest market, the dairy sector.
How's it going there? The dairy farmers are going to
get ten bucks or better this year. I'm imagining when
the corporate starts sniffing around again, there's got to be
interested in it.

Speaker 12 (19:04):
Oh, there is interest, and there's a lot of players
now looking at it. I guess we go into this
period where the dairy slows off a bit and we're
probably seeing a lot more momentum at this time of
the year, more than normal, and that sheep and beef
and grazing area, so that's still strong. The dairy thing,
I think will come into play again as we come
into the spring area. But there's a lot of players

(19:26):
interested in that. And I think the other thing that
is noticeable there a lot of payback, a lot of debt,
so there'll be a lot more cash available, and I
think we're going to see that stimulate sales not only
in dairy but in our whole sheep and beef marketplace.
So I think we're going to have a pretty solid spring,
and depending on the weather in the winter, we might

(19:48):
see more activity there too.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Let's have a look at horticulture. What's happening there.

Speaker 12 (19:53):
Keeping fruit and that side of it is good. Viticulture
is quiet for all those reason we know, But definitely
if you look up in that bigger Kiwi fruit area,
we've seen a lot more activity. There's more interest, and
I think that's a good thing. After you look it
has probably been quiet for two or three years.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
As you know, you also not only run the real
estate division, Peter and Newbold, you're in charge of the
live stock division.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I think one of the great stories out of farming
this season has been the renaissance of red meat. Not
so much beef. It's been good, but certainly lamb and mutton.
Are we seeing that reflected in the interest in those
properties you mentioned, the interest in sheep and beef and
grazing properties.

Speaker 12 (20:37):
Oh, look, definitely, you know, if you look at a
traditional sheep and beef farmer if you go back a
couple of years or even up until this season has
been really tough and now we're starting to see really
good prices in sheep and also cattle. I think it'll
be fair to say in some parts of the country
where we're scraping to fine stock for people. So that's

(20:59):
a real good thing. It's good for those all those farmers.
Suddenly they're going to get a good return, some will
pay back debt, put them back into a profitable position.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
You know.

Speaker 12 (21:09):
It's really healthy and that is and it will stimulate
more sales in that sector. And when you combine that
with the dairy side, you know, rural New Zealand hasn't
looked so good for a long long time in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So the livestock division at PGG Rights and Will have
had a bit of a roiler.

Speaker 12 (21:27):
Yeah, we've had a fantastic year and that's really good
and I must admit it. It's nice operating in both businesses.
But you know, the livestock world, she's an interesting place
and we have some wonderful characters in that in that
business of ours, and.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
We also chat to those guys on a monthly basis
as well. Look, Peter and youwbod, thanks for some of
your time wearing your real estate and livestock hat out
of PGG rights. And I hope you have a RESTful
Easter weekend. Don't eat too many Easter eggs.

Speaker 12 (21:57):
No, thank you, Jamie. Likewise, you have a good Easter.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I well, thank you, Peter. Some of your texts coming in,
some of them I can't read out Rowena. But was
your intro song by the band Disturbed, Yes, Texter, it
was this. I mean, this is Simon and Garfunkle and
Rose Chuck A bit of that on my button bar,
but honestly, not many. But sometimes Rowena in life, a

(22:24):
cover is better than the original.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
Yeah, if you're going to do a cover, you've got
to do it well. Otherwise, what was the point?

Speaker 10 (22:30):
That's one?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I love it is. Agreed with you, Okay, we agree
show is getting boring. We need to disagree about that.
We might agree on the sports news as well.

Speaker 9 (22:41):
I'm a better sports news reader than you. We can
disagree on that.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
No, ILL agree with that one. I'm appalling. I'm appalling anyhow.
It's not what I'm paid to do. No, it's not
something I do on the side and not very well.
It's a bit like golf really. Up Next, rural news
and sports news before the end of the hour, the
duck problem down in Southland. What's Blair Block of Drysdale

(23:04):
going to do about that? And Chris Russell's our assie
correspondent twenty two myself down in the way, but twenty
two away from one. Here's Rowena Duncan with the latest

(23:26):
and rural news.

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Speaker 3 (23:36):
Stockist, Dennie.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
I'm already getting Texan from my hunting buddy saying no pressure,
no pressure. It's out there on national radio that I've
said I'm going to fill you for.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, well, look if you can. If you fail, you
realize that Silver Fern Farms sell those wonderful little venison
packs in the supermarkets. I don't care where it comes from, brilliant.

Speaker 9 (23:52):
I'll just get some of them and repackage it up myself. Hey,
looking happy news. The man assumed missing for three weeks
from each talker ticker I spoke about him on yesterday's
Rural News has been found safe and sound confirmed by
police today and on tuesday's show, I chatted to Damian O'Connor,
labor Trade spokesman. He was off to parmu's calf rearing
day yesterday. Apparently a fantastic turnout, around one hundred and

(24:15):
sixty people there for that lot of experts talking about
all different aspects of calf rearing. So back in twenty
twenty one, Parmus started trying to have this closed system.
At present it absorbs about sixty five percent of their
dairy calves, but building on that, they're aiming to rear
all calves from their dairy herds for meat and milk
production by twenty thirty. And they said, you know, we

(24:35):
know this is a stretch. This is a pretty damn
big goal and the last twenty percent will be the
most challenging, but hey, they're committed to doing it and
they're trying the best.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, and absolutely bobby calves are an issue, the disposal
thereof so if we can rear them all all the better.
I guess that's rural News for you.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Sport with Athco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Four and all Blacks teammates back in Rico Yuani's pending
short term move to Leinster. Crusader's captain David Haaveli applauds
the move and expects Jannie Ornie Juannie, Uannie, Yeah, we'll
go with you, Arnie to grow. As a result, he
won't be as good as Jordi Barrett and he won't
be as welcome in Ireland as Georgy Barrett. I don't
think he will be well. He hasn't got the school

(25:18):
set that Jordi Barrett's got, and I'm talking about the
goalkicking and all those extras that he brings. Arsenal have
advanced to the semi final of Football's Champions League for
the first time in sixteen years. They pace They face
Paris Saint Germain in the last four into Milan, Meat,
Barcelona and Auckland's chances of hosting a sale GP regatta

(25:40):
next year are yet to get up on the foils.
Ten regattas are already locked and I'm losing interest in
Grant Dalton, the America's Cup and sale GP.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
To be honest, the Dolphins were the most exciting thing
and the grumpy Man about the Grumpy Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, it's all about the money, it's not about the
competition and the event. Anyhow, up next bloke who's going
to take time out of his day to chat to us.
He's on his way I think, to Wanica for wheels
at Wanaica and it'll be a bit of an issue
there because he'll have a lot of camper vans to
pass on the way. Blair Blocker Drysdale. Next, had a

(26:20):
gap to fill on the show today. Who should I
ring up but my old mate from Belfer in Northern Southland,
Blair Blocker Drysdale. Because we always get complaints here on
the show that we don't cover arable farming enough, so
I thought i'd ring up an arable farmer. But lo
and behold, he's heading off on holiday to Roxburgh, No
less to buy a Jimmy's pie Blocker Blair Drysdale. Welcome

(26:40):
to the country.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
Good afternoon, Jamie. You know I am heading to Rocker
for a pie fletcher an Ioway for a boys' weekend,
up to Wonticer for where was Wonica? So passing through
really and he is staying from for weekends.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Well, no finer place than Roxburgh to stop for a
Jimmy's Pie. How's the season been for you? Because I
left Queenstown very early this morning to come back to
and I drove past an old mates farm in between
Riverstyle and Belfa and Low and behold here's a huge
crop of maize. Of course, this is a relatively new
development for southern farmers. Obviously it's for a silidce crop.

(27:13):
I would have thought they'd have it off by now now.

Speaker 8 (27:16):
Look, I saw mate about this about a week ten
days ago, and probably from now they still need another
sort of ten days frost free to get maximize both
dry matter and starch levels. So we had a really
good frost here on it was Sunday morning. We had
a riper, so they won't be wanting any more of them,
but you'll suspect a lot of it will come off
the next ten days, that's for sure. But yeah, as
far as our season, look, I think last spring's challenges

(27:38):
are wearing their head now with a lot of late
spring stone crops still standing and still a little bit
on the green side. So there's some challenges out there
for some people getting them off, that's for sure. Because
we've got bought to me very quickly sort of Interfare Bevern.
But for us here, yeah, it was just a pretty
typical harvest to be fair. Weatherwise, yields on winter weeks
we're down on average. Everything else was for me was

(28:01):
up so and I think our years being down is
pretty general right round our district and probably all the south.
And to be fair of it, ye're driving to to
Need in a couple of weeks on Sunday, taking Fletcher
back up to Need and there's a lot of grain
least to come off between Gore and all the way
right up to Melton. So yeah, and it makes it
challenging for these guys to try and get crops off now,

(28:23):
to then try and get next season's crops in before
winter sets in. And that's happening pretty quickly.

Speaker 12 (28:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Okay, across the board, and I'm talking about in New
Zealand here, how have arable farmers fared. I know that
some of the Canterbury guys, for instance, had difficulty getting
good harvesting conditions. But once you've got the crop off,
have you made any money? Here?

Speaker 8 (28:43):
We're making money, but our margins are getting slimmer and
slimmer every year, Jamien. I mean, like we talked about
briefly off here. You know, dairy farmers might like to
think we rip them off, but we don't. We have
very little connection to dairy payout price where grainness concerned,
it's now really very much based around imported feed prices.
So yeah, we'd like to be making a lot more money,

(29:05):
that's for sure, because the machinery is not getting any cheaper,
that's for sure. Yep, fuels gone the right way for it.
We'll probably the looks of that. Yourrea is going to
head north in the spring, so a lot of people
be looking at forward contract in the area to try
and nail down some of these prices that your margins
the big one for us. It just keeps diminishing pretty
much a year on here, Jamie. So yeah, the industry's
got a few headwinds in that respect, especially around the cereals.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
When you're not being an arable farmer or a poster
boy for Jimmy's Pies in Roxbury, you're an extra excellent
billboard for Jimmy's Pies, if you don't mind me saying so, Blocker.
You also were a finalist in the Balanced Farm Environment
towards obviously in the Southland category, and you took home
three prizes Science Soils and water quality and biodiversity. How's

(29:49):
the water quality on the duck pond? You haven't got
that many sleeps to go.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Well, look, I wouldn't want to take a swim in
the duck pond after all the waterfowl has been there,
that's for sure. But yeah, it's full that it's the
main thing. The ducks is sort of dispersed a fair bit,
so I don't know where they've all gone. There was
extreme numbers around seteen days fortnight ago. Look a made
of mine was drilling and he reckon he had ten
to fifteen thousand ducks in the paddock with him and
they were just parting around the tractor and drilling, carrying

(30:16):
on their merry way grazing. So yeah, look'll be interesting
on the Boys Christmas or opening day, that's for sure,
to see how many are around and how many we
can get. But you encourage everyone just to get into
them because they're causing a hell a lot of problems
in South and this year, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
On this show, I think last week we chatted to
Mark Dylan, who's a mate of yours not a mile
away from your farm. The New Zealand Plowing Champion and
he's right next door to my duck pine down on
south and I told him to leave some crop on
to keep the ducks interested. No crop left at your place, obviously,
no none.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
Only in look some years, if I am harvesting in
the duck pom paddic and it's close to duck shooting,
I get a bit lazy or a bit cunning defensive
way you on look at it and just flick the
orger out off the combine and do a lap round
the part of the pond that we can. So no
grain less here for us, So the ducks are away
feeding somewhere else in the main time.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Good on you, you enjoy your Jimmy's pie and rocksbragh.
Good luck on opening day and congratulations taking home three
of the gongs if you want at the Balanced Farm
Environment Awards for Southland, Blair Block of Drysdale go.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
Well, no thanks Jamie, but the congres to cam Nelson
who took the south and water away.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Absolutely right. We've got to take a break on the
other side of it. We wrapped the country for the
week with our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell. He's our guy
across the ditch Chris Russell, our Australian correspondent, Chris. I
was going to start off by the second leader's debate
Elbow v. Dutton last night, but like a lot of

(31:45):
Australians didn't bother watching it.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
What have you heard?

Speaker 12 (31:49):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (31:49):
So these are so lackluster.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
They're both so gun shy about that got stuck in
a little bit more into Albernezia, particularly about the orcat thing.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
But yeah, very dunshy.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
The much more interesting discussion came between Dutton and the
Australian newspaper, one of our major national newspapers here after
the debate. I don't know whether he was saving up
for them. I don't understand why he didn't release it
at the debate, which would have been seen by more people.
But nonetheless he announced that one of his policies is

(32:21):
going to be to start indexing the different tax brackets
you fall into, so you know whether you pay thirty
percent tax or thirty two percent or forty percent or
whatever changes at certain levels of income. And they haven't
been index for years, so we've been suffering from what
they call bracket creep. Where As you get more wages
you suddenly duck into the next tax bracket. Well, he's

(32:43):
going to actually index those to match the waging greases
and therefore avoid that problem. Now, that's been tried about
twenty years ago by John Howard and it didn't succeed.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
They started it, but they just never finished it off.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
It was all sorts of cry from Treasury and the
costs and so on, so it never happened fully. But
that's something I think would be popular. And it's certainly
at last we've got a little bit of a point
of differentiation, rather than each of them announcing something, the
other one saying they'll do the same thing or slightly differently.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I reckon it's a great policy we could do with
it here something that's also very popular. And I remember
the time you took me to the Sydney Royal Easter Show.
It's going to be huge, or more huge than ever
because the way the holidays have fallen this year with
the ENZAC thing happening.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Yes, look, it's always big.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
I think the Sydney Royal is the showground is the
largest purpose built showground in the Southern.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Hemisphere, as my statistics are right, and it's a big
event always. They always expect to get.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
About seven hundred thousand people through, but this year, and
this is despite the costs being around about forty dollars
for an adult, so it's not cheap to go in.
But this year, because of the fact there is two
long weekends and the school holidays completely encompassing the period
the show is open that they're expecting many more people

(34:05):
on that and they've really gone over the top to
try and make it worthwhile for people.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
To get in there. All the normal things rides and show, show.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Bags and so on, but the evening event they have
a bison stampede with bison climbing up on the top
of semi trailers.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
They have other cowboys sort.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Of acts motocross, a fantastic fire works display which is
on every night goes on for about fifteen minutes, so
they've really gone well. And of course all the normal
things the wood shopping and so on which everyone attracts.
So I just noticed a hue. I was there on
Tuesday and I just noticed a huge number of people.
One of the starlight things I think for it is

(34:43):
the district exhibits as well, where each section of New
South Wales come and display their produce in a big
display would be about maybe fifteen twenty meters by twenty
meters on a sloping stage where they display all their
goods and it's judged both for the quality of the
goods for the actual display quality. And that's always a

(35:03):
big attraction for me. It's just lovely to be able
to see all those goods on display.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Jamie, Well, on Tuesday evening, you were of there. You
were there, of course to present the Chris Russell Medal
awarded to the top what tertiary graduate an egg.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yes, that's great, you know, unfortunate name, I suppose, but
just one of the things I really value. And each
year the top graduating undergraduate student, this is at bachelor
degree level in New South Wales. They all submit the
honor students submit their thesis for their final year and
they're judged by an academic panel and the top graduating

(35:41):
student then we present their final presentations.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
The panel decides and then we actually.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Award the medal to the top student, a nice medal again,
a nice check. They also get a twelve months membership
of one of the top agricultural think tanks in Australia
called Agrimaes, where they get to mix a match with
some of the leaders of society in agriculture, the agriminds,
if you like, of Australia. So it's a much valued

(36:10):
prize and I'm really value getting to meet all of
the young graduates. There's such brainiacs, Jamie. You know, I
don't even understand the titles of some of their thesis.
Unbelievably good and sophisticated work that we were even looked
at till you've got to.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
At least PhD level.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
So it's a joy to see such talent being attracted
to agriculture. None of them really off farms. They are
all city people who have discovered agg and the worthy
winner this year, you know, young Harris. She did a fantastic,
fantastic thesis looking at using artificial intelligence to model growth
patterns in wheat based on data. I think all the

(36:49):
farmers get data overload almost well, she's found a software
system being able to feed all that data into and
predict what growth patterns are going to be, where the
big harvest is going to be, when it's to be
and so on, and a very exciting project that she
did to win that prize.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Chris Russell enjoy the Royal Easter Show in Sydney.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
No worries. Thanks Jamie good On, you Chris Hey.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Just On behalf of the team at farm Strong and
us here at the Country. We'd like to wish all
our farmers, growers and rural communities out there are safe
and happy Easter, especially with the weather in the North
Island at the moment. We hope you find a little
downtime to catch up with family mates, neighbors and do
a few things off farm that will fill your cup
and help you refresh. Stay safe, stay connected and stay

(37:33):
farm strong. We'll catch you all next week. Rowena, thank
you very much for covering me this week. I honestly
to know life's a bit messy at the moment where
I'll be next week but possibly not here, So if
you're looking after it, go well and don't go too well,
they might sack me.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
I'll fill make cup and your freezer this weekend.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Jamie good On, you have a good one, have a
great Eastern New zealand.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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