April 30, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Jane Smith, Michael Harvey, Jeremy Rookes, Chris Russell, and Rowena Duncum.
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Can get, Amy Ellen and Welcome to the Country. Brought
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enz Edmey's Queenstown office. We're I'm a lone soldier quite literally. Hey,
we are going to kick it off obviously, we've got
some real weather issues around the country are rain and
flooding in Canterbury, wind and Wellington. In fact, we've got
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a red a rare get it right, red level warning
that could pose a threat to life. So we're going
to have a look at the weather of this. You're
going to make it off by going to north Otago.
Jane Smith, north Otago farmer. I'm not sure that the
rain that's pounding Canterbury has made its way down to
north Otago, but it's certainly cold at the bottom end
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of the country. She's standing on atop a snow clad
hill according to herself, and she says there's never been
a better time for New Zealand to come out of
the climate change closet. We've got two trips across the
ditch today to Australia. Michael Harvey, a a RABO Research
senior analyst, a recently released report from Rabobank, and this
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really offers some opportunity. The Indonesians are going to have
a new Milk in schools program. They need a hell
of a lot of milk. Where's it going to come from?
Hopefully New Zealand. Jeremy Rocks, Canterbury based lifestyle hobby hobby
farm correspondent. He's in the midst of the flooding there.
We'll catch up with him. He wants to talk about
(01:54):
the rain solar farms. Apparently he's not a big fan
of the huge new solar farm in Canterbury. Ge in
farming and why he needs to buy a duck shooting
license when ducks are a pest. He reckons He's happy
enough to buy a fishing license, but farmers shouldn't have
to buy a duck shooting license. Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent,
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going to catch up with him on the eve of
the Aussie election this weekend. And Roving Row or roving Rowena,
get it right, dunkm She's at the Dairy Women's Network
conference in Hamilton tonight they'll crown the twenty twenty five
dairy Woman of the Year. We'll have, hopefully from Ad
Dunedin's studios. Michelle Watt with Rural News. Andy McDonald pressing
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the buttons. This is his music from his Spotify Spotify
list in Auckland with sports News for You. But let's
kick it off with Jane Smith. Jane, has the rain
made its way down from Canterbury to North Otago.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Just a very cold socialist wind bline.
We shouldn't be surprised. It's the first to today and yes,
snow and k can Hills behind me, Jamie, so you
have no surprises. It's amazing now, isn't it. How much airtime,
the weather and the sort of the alarmist I guess
outcry on the weather getsies todays Jamie. But yep, just
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business as usual really may the first?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, Jane, you're a hard hearted woman, because look in
Wellington it is a rare red level wind warning with
a possible threat to life. So surely that's worth shouting
from the rooftops.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh, absolutely, Jamie. I guess in this day and age
of communication around whether it is a really high level.
But I think in terms of whether events have always happened,
and I think there's never been a bit of time
for New Zealand. And I'm not just talking today but
to be talking about, you know, coming out of the
climate change closet and actually forging our own way. And
there's been a lot of discussion, and I know my
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local councilor Jim Hopkins mentioned this yesterday around the Paris
Accord and we seem to be asking the wrong question, Jamie.
It isn't should we exit from the Paris Agreement. The
real question is when should we? And we need to
show some leadership and the global livestock sector is actually
looking to New Zealand to do that. So we either
exit now or in two to three years when the
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whole thing collapses and we've wasted time, money, focus and
resources that we don't actually have. And so I just
thinking this morning, Nicola willis I actually found your one
point one billion that you need to balance the budget
worth before breakfast this morning simply by exiting this this
I guess fiscal folly, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
What about the other way that they could get one
point one billion is by ditching the key, we say,
a subsidy. What do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah, it's interesting, Jamie. I mean it's surely all of
these things should be means tested. And you know, look
at the same thing with superannuation, which I know is
really harsh when you paid tax all your life, But
surely directing the money to the best possible place is
the best best way to do that. And you know,
again we seem to be spending all of this money.
We've got potentially up for twenty four billion dollars in
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the next five years for net zero that twelve thousand
a household and a country that can't afford its own healthcare.
And you know, Jamie, on Insect Day on I was
standing at the Dawn's service and it hit me, and
it has done it before on Insect Day, that we've
really let down our fullbearers. You know, they fought for
the rights as an innovative, independent thinking country and now
we seem to be scared to say the wrong thing
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and be sanitized with everything that we say. So you know,
we've got a real leadership role to play here, and
actually we shouldn't be apologizing for the fact that our
admission's profile is you know a gross emissions are do
have a high proportion of natural biogenic emmissions. Actually we
should be really proud of that, and you know our
sector has a peace and apologize for that would actually
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what we should be saying is goodness me, this is
actually really great news. We can actually forge your head
and forge a different pathway. And because I guess the
thing is Jamie, I'll call it a fiscal folly before,
but it's actually economic espionage if we carry on the
same pathway. And the National Party seem to have sort
of a a sa A lobotomy over this as soon
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as they entered the big blue tartess in Wellington. They're
not allowed to speak out about this. But the neat
effect of carrying on with net zero high food cost
for everyone, high electricity electricity cost, and more intensive farming
and it was really interesting. Jamie the leader of the
British Conservative Party, and I think her name is kemmy
(06:23):
Bad or not, she said about a month ago that
net zero is impossible, not only impossible, but a fantasy,
fantasy politics. And she said something like it's built on
nothing promise the Earth and is costing it too. So
I thought that is fantastic. Why don't we have politicians
and I guess we do. We have Winston and Shane Jones,
but I guess Mark Cameron seems to be the only
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other right wing politician that's allowed to have an opinion
on this.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Jamie, I got a text yes that. Unfortunately I haven't
got the text machine set up here in the Queenstown studio,
so I can't go back to it, but just off
the top of my head, it was a text from
someone saying accusing Jim Hopkins and Bryce McKenzie who was
on earlier in the week from Groundswell, as being boomers
and they were going to sell us, you know, down
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the road basically. And of course the argument, the counter
argument to what you're saying, Jane Smith, is always what
about Nessleigh and thenn they demand a low carbon footprint
product or zero carbon. I'm not quite sure how you
get to zero carbon. I can't see it happening myself
by twenty fifty, but that the argument is, if they
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can't get it from us, they're going to go elsewhere.
I'm not sure where that elsewhere is.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
By the way, it's such a lane and civid line
that just gets rolled out, doesn't this And you know,
we're actually really sick of that, that we're the solution,
not the problem, and we need to ford your own way.
And again we've got other countries, livestock countries saying that
that we're actually looking to New Zealand to do that
because actually, when you calculate methane correctly, and there's a
very Orthodo dos IPCC reviewed way to do that, we
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actually realize that without even taking our sequestration into account,
which by the way is fifty two percent of our
land mass, we are absolutely better than carbon zero. We
are carbon positive. And you know, my twelve year old
would draw the emissions trajectory and it only goes one
way and that's downwards. So we should be really pushing
this forward, if only would spend the time and money
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or just the time actually to actually promote that instead
of saying bowing down and for nice and denying. I mean,
that's just such an it's just a mis nimo. It
just seems absolutely ridiculous. Show them our trajectory and low input,
low impact, free range farming, because actually the way that
we're going at the moment we're trying to turn ourselves
into a sort of a quasi Europe minus the subsidies
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by the way, with pills and potions and methane vexes
that are just the trojan horse for again intensification. So
do we want our livestock on the hell's free range,
as I said, or do we want to become one
big feed lot with pine trees on the hills, Chamie,
Because you know we're losing a million stock in its
of a year the moment we're losing, ironically to pine trees,
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when we've also got ninety thousand heap das of wolding
pines increasing each year. So what do we want feed
lots of pine trees? Absolutely not. So again with some
courageous conversations around this.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Are you suggesting are you suggesting we let the wilding
pines go?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Absolutely not, Jamie. And that's a total disaster. And anyone
that's seen you look at some of those really dry
areas through the McKinsey country at the moment, I mean,
that's been a disgrace to seed that there are there's
been some a GISs big potentially big pine tree plantations
going in in those areas that are already a sitting
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duck or already obsected by molding pines. So those areas,
even if they use pine trees, that won't spread. So
certain species of pine pine trees, they are absolutely the
environment that will be sitting duck for further wilding pines
because of the seed in the ground. So those areas too.
You look at the top of the Hackatara Mere Valley,
a very very you know, a dry area, but it's
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got sustainable irrigation. But you put upon more pine trees
and they're plus more welding pines and that is a
disaster waiting to happen. So not sure where Environment Canterbury
and the district councils are in this, but they are
just missing in action and have failed to see the
bigger picture Jamie, because again there's no way back from this.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
All right, a final comment from me on this in
emissions target reductions and all that sort of stuff. If
nineteen ninety Jones Smith, this kind of the year, we
put the peg into the sand and we're measuring increases
since then, there are no more bovines on the planet
now than there were in nineteen ninety. The only differences.
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There are more human beings, we're burning more fossil fus fuels.
Surely the answer is.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Simple, absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
But again it seems to be a conversation we can't have.
And it doesn't matter whether you use nineteen ninety Kyoto
or two thousand and five Paris or twenty seventeen zero CARBONAC.
Since two thousand and five we're in terms of New
Zealand flatlining, but in terms of the world only four
percent of their missions are also human induced as well, Jamie.
So the end of the day, isn't it about resilience?
So adapting with the climate. The climate's always changed, otherwise
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we'd still be in the ice age, and so adapting
and being resilient and putting our money in our mouth
where the actual issues are, Jamie, and capture those opportunities.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Are you out in the Miami Saturday morning?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Blair actually goes missing an action for about a week.
Actually during Dutch shitting. Her heads south. So someone's got
to keep the GDP rolling and keep the farm running.
But the kids and I usually go out and stalk
a few ponds Dutch sheitting. It's not a massive messive thing.
In Northicago, to be fair, because we usually have pretty
dry ponds at this time of year. But there are
water in the ponds and there are ducks around, so
I'm sure we'll we'll go and find some.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Jamie, Yeah, will you scare them off those ponds for
the other shooters in the North Otaga region. Jane Smith,
thank you very much for your time. Thanks Jamie Okay,
Jane Smith. They're kicking off the country today. We've got
two visits across the ditch today. The first one is
with Michael Harvey. Indonesia have decided to introduce like a
Milk in Schools program. It's going to present huge opportunities
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for the New Zealand dairy industry. Also before the end
of their Jeremy Rook's Canterbury based lifestyle Hobby Farming correspondent
does he need an arc in Canterbury? Chris Russell Arrosi
correspondent and Rowena is at the Dairy Women's Network conference
in Hamilton. Welcome back to the Country. Twelve twenty two.
(12:34):
Andy McDonnell paneling the show out of Auckland. He wasn't
listening to the show yesterday. Andy. We played a wee
bit of Murray Head and one night in Bangkok on
yesterday's show, Getting Ready for the Riversdale Rugby Club Reunion
forty years on from nineteen eighty five. Anyhow, Michael Harvey
has no interest in that at all because he's based
in Sydney. He's Rabobank's senior dairy analyst. And well, Indonesia's
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going to introduce effectively what we would know as milk
and schools program and the good news for US as
a dairy exporting nation is they're going to try and
get milk down the throats of sixty million students. What
does that mean for us, Jamie, thanks for having me.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah. Look, school milk programs, as you said, they're not new.
We had one here in Australia back in the fifties,
a bit more before my time. But I think it's
a positive reminder that, you know, dairy is a veryrial
nutritional product that governments around the world see is an
important part of the diet and that's fundamentally what's driving
this most recent government policy, a broad based increase in
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the role out of our school milk program to sixty
million students, but also a number of pregnant mums and
expecting mums in Indonesia as well, So that in itself
presents this potentially enormous increase in the size of the
white milk market in Indonesia. Now there's questions around whether
they'll be able to do it as successfully as they can,
but ultimately, if they are able to roll it outlatively,
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they're thinking it's going to create a market increase of
around two billion leaders or more of white milk consumption
in Indonesia. So that itself is the opportunity for a
growing white milk market in Indonesia. And then it becomes
a question of product mix. What you know, what actually
product does that look like? Where do they source the
milk from? Do they actually need to import some of
that product? So that's the question there, But that's an
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enormous opportunity if they can successfully roll this out.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, So as it stands at the moment, And apologies
if you've already given this, I was trying to read
something and listen at the same time and I can't
multitask Michael. So a good portion of their milk is
already imported.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
I mean, Indonesia are what we would classify as a
net importer, so they're an import deficit economy. It's a
growing market because of the macro demographics that are at
play there, So they import over two billion leaders and
look on a liquid milk eqivalent base every year. And
exporters like New Zealand are certainly very heavy in that market,
So that itself is important trading partner already presents a
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new opportunity as they grow that white milk market. But
what I mean clearly what we're watching in all this
is one there's also a government policy that's that play
here in Indonesia where they want to try and boost
domestic milk production to cater to that growing market for
white milk for school milk, And there's questions around how
that's going to be achieved, given you they are already
a net importer of dairy products. But potentially it creates
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opportunities to supply feed and equipment and heifers and so
forth into that market as they build the domestic kurd.
But there's also likely to be some opportunities just to
export dairy ingredients and products into that market as that
market grows. So there's some a few layers of opportunity,
a few moving parts around how it might look like,
and it's clearly going to be a multi year sort
of program as they roll without.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, historically New Zealand has said and I know this
because I'm reading it from your press release, Michael excellently
composed too. I might add, historically New Zealand has had
a large dairy cow heifer export business, exporting on average
ninety thousand head annually. However, a ban was implemented and
twenty twenty three following a several maritime incidents, including one
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very tragic one, So that opportunity as it stands at
the moment for New Zealand farmers is not there.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
No, that's right. That's something we're watching quite closely because
there is this ambition to significantly increase domestic production in Indonesia.
With that there will be a greater need to import heifers.
We're starting to see a few volumes trickle out of
Australia into that market and it's important timing because, like
you said, New Zealand at an export banning place. Generally speaking,
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for both Australia and New Zealand, over a long period
of time, a lot of their hefer trade indu Asia
has been into the China market. That market's been very
very weak recently because they're actually going through herd reduction.
So this potentially creates an opportunity if there was a
if there was a shift in government policy. But what
you're also seeing in Indonesia is a recognition that clearly,
whatever happens, they're not going to be able to source
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all the heapers out of this part of the world.
So they're actually trying to open up markets and get
protocol in place to be able to source heppers out
of other regions like South America. So it's one of
the layers that we're keeping a close eye on.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Hey, just to finish on we've got duck shooting or
duck hunting. I've got to be politically correct. Season to
look forward to here in New Zealand this weekend. I'm
not sure whether you're better off or worse off than us.
You've got an election to look forward to. Have you
early voted?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I haven't where we make a habit of wandering down
with the dog to the local school to get a
sausage and cast their vote. Yeah, so it's a I
guess it's an important date on the calendar for Australia.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, Albanize is going to get back, is the he
the poles.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Are looking that way.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Yeah, I'm certainly not my expertise. I'll stick to my lanes,
but the poles are certainly reading that way absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Hey Michael Harvey out of Rabobanks, Sydney office, Thank you
very much for your time.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Thanks thanks having me got on.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
That's the first trip across the ditch today, Chris Russell Arossi, correspondent.
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh, come find.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Bang on twelve thirty year. If the country brought to
you by Brant Canterbury is very very wet at the moment,
let's go there. Our guy lifestyle hobby farm correspondent Jeremy
Rocks Jezer, How bad is it?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh, it's not too bad. We've had one hundred and
fifty mils but it's just been steady, so no drama
around flooding or anything for us anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah. I note that they're evacuating the seal on hunts
or something like that, so there's obviously a bit of
surface flooding. Maybe the worst weather could be up the
road in Wellington, a rare red level wind warning a
possible threat to life. Will keep an eye on that one.
Where do I start with you? Solar farms. They've opened
a big new solo farm down the road from you,
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just just sort of north or northwest of Ashburton. Yeah,
have you got any comments on said solo farm?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Well, just renewables are a waste of time unless it's hydro.
I mean, just look what's happened in Spain and southern France.
I mean it's just an efficient It doesn't work, it's
expensive and I mean the carbon footprint of producing panels
of wind turbines is off the chart, so you know,
and look at the power prices in mainland when they've gone.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, okay, that's all very well, but you can't get
got enough hydro to sustain our energy needs. Well, there's
no bigger proponents of dams than me, but a they
take a while. You've got to get consents to do them.
Admittedly Shane Jones is going to fast track that, but
our energy needs are immediate.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, but I mean this has been an ongoing issue
for years and we're just at the mercy of the
greens and everything and it's all ridiculously let's get it done.
I mean wind and soul is hopeless. I mean wind
like Watson Wellington. You've got to turn the bloody turbines
off because they'll blow the bits otherwa and and you're
not generating a lot of power on your solar panels today.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Are you?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But that one down the nash Burton or near Ashburton
can generate a hell of a lot of power. And
I understand those solar panels are good for what twenty
twenty five years?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, but you have. It's how well they weren't when
they actually came, depending on what the weather done.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Okay, what you're also up and well actually talking about
the greenies, you're sounding like one yourself. You don't want
a bar of this changes to our ge legislation.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, I don't, because I think once you open a
can of We're you know, Pandora's box, you can't.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Put it back.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And I think it's as usual it's been decided by
people who aren't affected directly by the consequences of it,
because we're always being told Fartner's about what's good for us,
so what's not without being actually included in the process.
And I think I think that's the biggest issue I've got.
And I mean, once you get into this ge GM stuff,
you behold it to mont Santo and all these big
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corporates who have proprietary rights on seeds, and you run
into issues with chemical resistance and stuff worse than we've
got now. So no, And also the irony is we
have a taste Pure Nature brand and if you start
putting in genetically modified GMO stuff around, well that completely
is asked about face without national brand, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I will be asking Chris Russell, who's coming up shortly
on the show. I think he might have an opposite
opinion to you on this one here.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, yeah, but if you're putting boluses like bow
there and stuff, you know you're creating a problem. I mean,
in Australia they finish all their animals on grain and
we finish ours on grass. And grass is a natural
you know, you know, a natural source of protein for
animals that ruminant animals have been designed to digest properly.
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Whereas on feed lots, you know, cattle aren't designed to
bloody grain, are they. It's grain? Speaking of grange, because
I'm really annoyed about fish and game because you know,
duck sitting coming up this weekend. And it isn't about
landowners not having a license. We know that because you're
shitting in your own farm. But I want to know,
and particularly after the way fishing game have been carrying
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on in Southland, why any person who is invited to
shoot ducks on a private farm should have to pay
for a license. I don't know. In all the thirty
years and forty years of ducks and when we shot
at home as well and feeding out grain and stuff
to bring the ducks in. I don't know any that
fish and game have had on the duck population or
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added to it. And in fact, ducks are polluting you
know Lake Ellsmere or White Aura, you know, and stuff
like that. And so why should I have to pay
for a day license, I mean, a full second license.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
You've got no argument with me on that one. Let's
finish on a really license. I know there should be.
There should be an opening morning license for a lot
of shooters. They go out at seven o'clock in the morning,
they fire a few shots and anger till nine or
ten the guns have brought away. And that's what I
agree with you in opening day license. Let's just finish
on a really positive note. You sent me a we
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text or a pixed this morning of some calf prices.
I can't believe this on with you. One thousand and
ninety dollars for one hundred and seventy kilo stare calf.
That's huge, huge money. IOPs, where are you gone, Jeremy?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But no, no, none of the online options. A yeah,
the prices are just going mad. Like today, I think
the average price of stairs will by the look of
it will be five to eighty or something like that.
Everyone's just going mad because of the price. Is so
really good for the guys who are stuck in with
beefcaut and stuff, and it's really good for the industry.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
All right, Jeremy, I got to go, Thank you very
much for some of your time. Good luck on Saturday morning.
You yep, yep, and we're going to go to a break,
but just some breaking news. The WiFi is not flashy.
I'm going to have to send a list of complaints
to Auckland HQ about the Queenstown studio. Look, just warning
coming through or a message coming through about this potential
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threat to life in Wellington, and they're asking people and
this sounds rather dire, doesn't it. They're asking people to
go to the middle of their houses, so there must
be some hell of a wind. And Wellington will follow
that one up. Maybe Michelle might update that one on
Rural News if she's got her head headphones on. But
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Speaker 6 (26:50):
For your locals.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Douggist.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and you mentioned that wild weather that's
happening across the country. A little bit of an update
with that. So there's been a deluge of rain and
potentially life threatening wins are bashing parts of the country.
A rare red warning has been issued for Wellington and
the alert level indicates possible threat to life from destructive wins.
There's orange wind warnings that cover Marlborough and Wirra Rapper
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as well, and orange rain warnings continue for Canterbury and
kai Korda, with Selwyn under a state of emergency. So
keep an eye it out there, folks. Are the wins
I think I was reading on the warnings before in
Wellington set to get up to one hundred and forty
kilometers an hour, which is pretty full on stuff, So
stay safe out there. And that's for rural news. We
have Andy McDonald's sport sport with.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
An AFCO Kiwi to the Bowl since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yes thanks Michelle.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
And in sport, Black Fern seven star Georgia Miller and
exciting Blues outside back Braxton Sorenson McGee headline. Five uncap
players named in the Black Ferns fifteen squad for the
upcoming PAC four series. No room for World Cup winners
at Ruby Tuwey, Chelsea Bremner or Renee Holmes in the
thirty three strong squad the Central Pulse. They've recruited former
(28:02):
Australian Diamond Gabby Simpson as a temporary replacement ahead of
the twenty twenty five antak Ain Zed Sorry Premiership Netball League,
providing mid court cover for injured Silver Ferns Maddie Gordon
and Whitney Sooness and just live. In the NBA halftime
between the Houston Rockets Golden State Warriors must win for
the Rockets. They are up seventy six points to forty nine.
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That's sport, Jamie, Hey, Andy, is there a better rugby
player in there? There isn't because she won the Calvin
Ar Tremaine Memorial Trophy in this country than Georgia Miller.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
You'd be hard to argue with that.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
Wallace Attiti hasn't played much, but based on his last
year's form that there'll be an argument.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'd give an Ardie Savella. But she is outstanding and
it's interesting some of the old guard not making the
cut and that is very exciting young fullback out of Auckland.
And I've just forgotten the name which you mentioned in
your sports Braxton Sorence and McGee. Yeah, well, a name
like Sorenson. There's a bit of leg breeding in there
as well. I think what she's a bit of a
gun as well. Really looking forward to that. We're going
(29:01):
to take a break. On the other side of it.
We're off to Australia for the second time today. Our
Assie correspondent is Chris Russell. They've got their election on Saturday. Oh,
Chris is a bit of a right winger. I know
how he'll be voting, but I think he might be
on the wrong side of this one. He's up next,
coming up to thirteen away from on our Ossie correspondent
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second trip across the Tasman today is Chris Russell. Chris,
I know you're a center right voter. You're going to
be on the wrong side of Saturday's election.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
Well, I must say today, Jamie, it's certainly looking that
that's going to be the case. And of course a
lot of questions already being asked is why that is.
You know, has it been a campaign based on truth
or based on lies?
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Who knows.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
But unless we see another sort of unwinnable election when
like we did with the Morrison government, I don't think
we're going to see a changing government. And of course
there are a lot of farmers nervous about that, particularly
the West Australian farmers who are very concerned about this
ban on live sheep exports because they just don't have
anywhere to go and the sort of compensation money the
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government's offering is not going to pay for the extra advatise,
extra capacity to handle them, move them to the Eastern States,
or any of those sort of changes. So it's a
nervous election I think for farmers Jaming.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Maybe you need Trump to change the election result like
he did in Canada.
Speaker 11 (30:25):
Chris Well, I think he's already had an effect because
I think a lot of people are equating, probably unjustly.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Peter Dutton with Trump in some of his views.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
He had one of the toughest jobs when he was
a minister looking after immigration and brought a security and
so on, and he was seen to be a hard man,
which you need to be in that job. And so
I think some people have said, well, this is perhaps
not the sensitive man that we want running that. I think,
particularly women have come against him. I've been at some
of the pre polls just talking to people there, and
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I think there's definitely a trend again favoritism for Peter
Dutton when it comes to the female vote, who feel
they need a bit of sensitivity, a bit of understanding
about their plight, and they believe they're going to get
more out of Albanesi than they are going to get
out of Dutton.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
At this stage, talk.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
To me about the potential battle between Bega Cheese and
Fonterra over mainland cheese. Of course, Fonterra is looking to
get rid of its consumer brands.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
Yes, well, I understand that Bega Cheese just had a
decision from the Supreme Court which has rejected Fonterra's attempt
to stop Bega renegotiating a long running branding agreement over
the mainland brand. But Barry Irvin is still very interested.
He's the chairman of Vega Cheese in buying the four
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billion dollar mainland consumer butter and cheese business, which is
spun out of Fonterra in New Zealand. So they're obviously
happy with the outcome of the Supreme Court case and
that's been around. That agreement with Fonterras is two thousand
and one, covering cheese in Victoria and Tasmania under the
Vega brand, which it also markets and generates about six
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percent of the mainland group's revenue.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
Fonterra wanted the court to rule that its devestment for
mainland division wouldn't affect the existing deal with Vega, but
of course Viga is saying no, if you're going to
take that out, we want to have a chance having
I go. So it'd be interesting to follow where that goes.
Barry Irvine is a very determined man. I've interviewed him
a couple of time on my podcast series and he's
a very determined man.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
So it'll be an inting battle.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Hey Chris, what's the name of your podcast? I'm giving
you a shameless plug here.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
Ah well, it's called ag Reminders and it's about to
be relaunched by our Institute Australia here in Australia. For
a long time it was with Southern Cross Ostereo, but
you'll see it back on deck shortly. There's about forty
three episodes covering all sorts of aspects from cheese daring,
animal welfare and so on.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Now I was going to cover this one on Rural News,
but she's kept or she's kept the power to dry
and left the story for you. Virtual fencing is now
legal in New South Wales. It's likely to save farmers millions.
Speaker 11 (33:14):
Well, when you look at the cost of fencing at
the moment, you're looking at around about ten thousand dollars a.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Kilometer to put in physical fencing.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
So for a long time New South Wales has stood
out against the other states of Queensland West Australia. Tas
MADEI in Northern Territory where virtual fencing has been illegal
for a long time and said no, we're still concerned
about animal welfare rights and so on. But there's been
some modification of the currents and the voltages that are used,
and so it's now going to be legal in New
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South Wales. I must say it looks pretty cumbasso and
still to me they're wearing this little mini.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Solar panel around their neck when they walk around. But
it's certainly his idea.
Speaker 11 (33:53):
It was particularly useful in western New South Wales where
you can sit in Pitt Street in Sydney and move
the from one water hole to another just by pushing
the fence up behind them remotely by using satellite based controls.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
So I think where it's going to be a good
value thing.
Speaker 11 (34:11):
It's also of course going to save a lot of
damage from pigs, kangaroos EMUs to the fencing the physical
fencing that's there, and I think everyone's very keen to
see virtual fencing being allowed despite the drawbacks of this
expense and the heavy collars.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Around their necks.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Let's finish quickly with footy. We're both big fans. Are
you happy with les Kiss your new Wallaby's coach or
not till next year?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah? I'm very happy. I think that was predictable.
Speaker 11 (34:36):
I'm surprised and I'm pleased to see that Schmid's going
to stay on now until the middle of next year.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
It wasn't.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
I mean, there's two advantages. One is I think he
has lot more to do and a longer time we
get with Schmid, the better the Wallabies will be for it.
The downside is of course that Les kiss Onney has
about fourteen months to prepare the side for the World Cup,
and if everything falls apart over the next year, while
he's not going to have much time to try and
recover it. But I think that's unlikely, and I think
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that everyone is gambling.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
On the fact that Schmid's going to continue.
Speaker 11 (35:08):
To do a great job. We've got the British and
Irish Lions tour coming up shortly.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
He's got a pretty big schedule, which I know he's
nervous about.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
And he's been allowed more time home with his family
at Kawakawa up in the top of the North Island there,
which is understandable that he wants that at his age.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
He's also keen for the while he's not to be
seen to.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Being coached by a sort of Dad's army of coaches,
so I think he's excited about Les coming.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
We're excited about both of them being.
Speaker 11 (35:33):
There, and I just hope that Joe Schmid stays on
as a consultant for less, a bit of a mentor
for him as he carries on the good work.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay, Chris Russell, thanks for your time. Got to go
enjoy another term of Anthony Albaniz. He wo're taking a break.
We're going to wrap it with Rowena Duncan. Is that
the Dairy Women's Network and your conference in Hamilton? Sure,
just a wrapping of the show off to Hamilton, Rowena,
don't come. Just reminding her if you want to win
(36:02):
the Kaiwaker storm Force jacket, text the keyword win and
how many seasons you've been farming to five double o nine,
don't forget your name? And where you're listening from? Rowena
is listening from Hamilton. The dairy Woman of the Year
will be crowned tonight, Rowena. Who's it going to be?
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Oh, I don't know, Jamie. It's yeah, it's always a
tricky one and I'm looking forward to finding out.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
You know.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
This started back in twenty twelve when Barbara Kuruger won it.
Other winners have included the Lanks of Kathy Melne who
was the first female president of Federated Farmers. So yeah,
it's always great to have a gala dinner with a
couple of hundred women all dressed up to the nines
and crowned someone who's pretty inspirational to the industry.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
But hey, look, it is a miserable day in.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Hamilton here today some nice, misty, drizzly rain, so hopefully
farmers out there need it because it's pretty miserable.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Otherwise, is this an equal opportunities function tonight? Can blokes
turn up? Well?
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Absolutely, Jamie, we had definitely not discriminatory. If you went
in Queenstown, you could have come along and I bet
you you had a ball. We could have put a
nice pink scarf on you and you could have had
a photo boost photo with me and embraced it.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Well, good old John mcavin, he never fails and never
disappoints me at all. He's he's wanting a dairy man
of the Air.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Oh well, I guess we could look into doing that.
You know, has he got some nominations for me? We
could form a committee, have a meeting about a meeting
and make it happen.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Hey, have you got the finalists for this? Year's dairy
Woman of the Year in front of you perchance.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I don't actually, but I think it as Lara Sutton,
Francis beats In and Joe Sheridan's so yeah. Francis is
based in mid Canterbury, I think from memory, Lara's based
in the White Cuttle and so Joe as well. She's
a manager of our farm. Lara works for Dairy and
Z and Francis has just really been quite inspirational in
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her community from what I remember. I know she does
more than that, but you've put me on the spot.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Jaw Okay, right, well I'm out of time, Rowena, thank
you very much. We'll talk to the dairy Woman of
the Year on SO tomorrow show. Catch you back then.
Batting down the Hatches in Wellington catch.
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enz Edmey's Queenstown office. We're I'm a lone soldier quite literally. Hey,
we are going to kick it off obviously, we've got
some real weather issues around the country are rain and
flooding in Canterbury, wind and Wellington. In fact, we've got
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a red a rare get it right, red level warning
that could pose a threat to life. So we're going
to have a look at the weather of this. You're
going to make it off by going to north Otago.
Jane Smith, north Otago farmer. I'm not sure that the
rain that's pounding Canterbury has made its way down to
north Otago, but it's certainly cold at the bottom end
(01:12):
of the country. She's standing on atop a snow clad
hill according to herself, and she says there's never been
a better time for New Zealand to come out of
the climate change closet. We've got two trips across the
ditch today to Australia. Michael Harvey, a a RABO Research
senior analyst, a recently released report from Rabobank, and this
(01:32):
really offers some opportunity. The Indonesians are going to have
a new Milk in schools program. They need a hell
of a lot of milk. Where's it going to come from?
Hopefully New Zealand. Jeremy Rocks, Canterbury based lifestyle hobby hobby
farm correspondent. He's in the midst of the flooding there.
We'll catch up with him. He wants to talk about
(01:54):
the rain solar farms. Apparently he's not a big fan
of the huge new solar farm in Canterbury. Ge in
farming and why he needs to buy a duck shooting
license when ducks are a pest. He reckons He's happy
enough to buy a fishing license, but farmers shouldn't have
to buy a duck shooting license. Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent,
(02:16):
going to catch up with him on the eve of
the Aussie election this weekend. And Roving Row or roving Rowena,
get it right, dunkm She's at the Dairy Women's Network
conference in Hamilton tonight they'll crown the twenty twenty five
dairy Woman of the Year. We'll have, hopefully from Ad
Dunedin's studios. Michelle Watt with Rural News. Andy McDonald pressing
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the buttons. This is his music from his Spotify Spotify
list in Auckland with sports News for You. But let's
kick it off with Jane Smith. Jane, has the rain
made its way down from Canterbury to North Otago.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Good afternoon, Jamie. Just a very cold socialist wind bline.
We shouldn't be surprised. It's the first to today and yes,
snow and k can Hills behind me, Jamie, so you
have no surprises. It's amazing now, isn't it. How much airtime,
the weather and the sort of the alarmist I guess
outcry on the weather getsies todays Jamie. But yep, just
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business as usual really may the first?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, Jane, you're a hard hearted woman, because look in
Wellington it is a rare red level wind warning with
a possible threat to life. So surely that's worth shouting
from the rooftops.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh, absolutely, Jamie. I guess in this day and age
of communication around whether it is a really high level.
But I think in terms of whether events have always happened,
and I think there's never been a bit of time
for New Zealand. And I'm not just talking today but
to be talking about, you know, coming out of the
climate change closet and actually forging our own way. And
there's been a lot of discussion, and I know my
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local councilor Jim Hopkins mentioned this yesterday around the Paris
Accord and we seem to be asking the wrong question, Jamie.
It isn't should we exit from the Paris Agreement. The
real question is when should we? And we need to
show some leadership and the global livestock sector is actually
looking to New Zealand to do that. So we either
exit now or in two to three years when the
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whole thing collapses and we've wasted time, money, focus and
resources that we don't actually have. And so I just
thinking this morning, Nicola willis I actually found your one
point one billion that you need to balance the budget
worth before breakfast this morning simply by exiting this this
I guess fiscal folly, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
What about the other way that they could get one
point one billion is by ditching the key, we say,
a subsidy. What do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah, it's interesting, Jamie. I mean it's surely all of
these things should be means tested. And you know, look
at the same thing with superannuation, which I know is
really harsh when you paid tax all your life, But
surely directing the money to the best possible place is
the best best way to do that. And you know,
again we seem to be spending all of this money.
We've got potentially up for twenty four billion dollars in
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the next five years for net zero that twelve thousand
a household and a country that can't afford its own healthcare.
And you know, Jamie, on Insect Day on I was
standing at the Dawn's service and it hit me, and
it has done it before on Insect Day, that we've
really let down our fullbearers. You know, they fought for
the rights as an innovative, independent thinking country and now
we seem to be scared to say the wrong thing
(05:18):
and be sanitized with everything that we say. So you know,
we've got a real leadership role to play here, and
actually we shouldn't be apologizing for the fact that our
admission's profile is you know a gross emissions are do
have a high proportion of natural biogenic emmissions. Actually we
should be really proud of that, and you know our
sector has a peace and apologize for that would actually
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what we should be saying is goodness me, this is
actually really great news. We can actually forge your head
and forge a different pathway. And because I guess the
thing is Jamie, I'll call it a fiscal folly before,
but it's actually economic espionage if we carry on the
same pathway. And the National Party seem to have sort
of a a sa A lobotomy over this as soon
(06:02):
as they entered the big blue tartess in Wellington. They're
not allowed to speak out about this. But the neat
effect of carrying on with net zero high food cost
for everyone, high electricity electricity cost, and more intensive farming
and it was really interesting. Jamie the leader of the
British Conservative Party, and I think her name is kemmy
(06:23):
Bad or not, she said about a month ago that
net zero is impossible, not only impossible, but a fantasy,
fantasy politics. And she said something like it's built on
nothing promise the Earth and is costing it too. So
I thought that is fantastic. Why don't we have politicians
and I guess we do. We have Winston and Shane Jones,
but I guess Mark Cameron seems to be the only
(06:45):
other right wing politician that's allowed to have an opinion
on this.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Jamie, I got a text yes that. Unfortunately I haven't
got the text machine set up here in the Queenstown studio,
so I can't go back to it, but just off
the top of my head, it was a text from
someone saying accusing Jim Hopkins and Bryce McKenzie who was
on earlier in the week from Groundswell, as being boomers
and they were going to sell us, you know, down
(07:09):
the road basically. And of course the argument, the counter
argument to what you're saying, Jane Smith, is always what
about Nessleigh and thenn they demand a low carbon footprint
product or zero carbon. I'm not quite sure how you
get to zero carbon. I can't see it happening myself
by twenty fifty, but that the argument is, if they
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can't get it from us, they're going to go elsewhere.
I'm not sure where that elsewhere is.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
By the way, it's such a lane and civid line
that just gets rolled out, doesn't this And you know,
we're actually really sick of that, that we're the solution,
not the problem, and we need to ford your own way.
And again we've got other countries, livestock countries saying that
that we're actually looking to New Zealand to do that
because actually, when you calculate methane correctly, and there's a
very Orthodo dos IPCC reviewed way to do that, we
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actually realize that without even taking our sequestration into account,
which by the way is fifty two percent of our
land mass, we are absolutely better than carbon zero. We
are carbon positive. And you know, my twelve year old
would draw the emissions trajectory and it only goes one
way and that's downwards. So we should be really pushing
this forward, if only would spend the time and money
(08:20):
or just the time actually to actually promote that instead
of saying bowing down and for nice and denying. I mean,
that's just such an it's just a mis nimo. It
just seems absolutely ridiculous. Show them our trajectory and low input,
low impact, free range farming, because actually the way that
we're going at the moment we're trying to turn ourselves
into a sort of a quasi Europe minus the subsidies
(08:42):
by the way, with pills and potions and methane vexes
that are just the trojan horse for again intensification. So
do we want our livestock on the hell's free range,
as I said, or do we want to become one
big feed lot with pine trees on the hills, Chamie,
Because you know we're losing a million stock in its
of a year the moment we're losing, ironically to pine trees,
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when we've also got ninety thousand heap das of wolding
pines increasing each year. So what do we want feed
lots of pine trees? Absolutely not. So again with some
courageous conversations around this.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Are you suggesting are you suggesting we let the wilding
pines go?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Absolutely not, Jamie. And that's a total disaster. And anyone
that's seen you look at some of those really dry
areas through the McKinsey country at the moment, I mean,
that's been a disgrace to seed that there are there's
been some a GISs big potentially big pine tree plantations
going in in those areas that are already a sitting
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duck or already obsected by molding pines. So those areas,
even if they use pine trees, that won't spread. So
certain species of pine pine trees, they are absolutely the
environment that will be sitting duck for further wilding pines
because of the seed in the ground. So those areas too.
You look at the top of the Hackatara Mere Valley,
a very very you know, a dry area, but it's
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got sustainable irrigation. But you put upon more pine trees
and they're plus more welding pines and that is a
disaster waiting to happen. So not sure where Environment Canterbury
and the district councils are in this, but they are
just missing in action and have failed to see the
bigger picture Jamie, because again there's no way back from this.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
All right, a final comment from me on this in
emissions target reductions and all that sort of stuff. If
nineteen ninety Jones Smith, this kind of the year, we
put the peg into the sand and we're measuring increases
since then, there are no more bovines on the planet
now than there were in nineteen ninety. The only differences.
(10:37):
There are more human beings, we're burning more fossil fus fuels.
Surely the answer is.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Simple, absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
But again it seems to be a conversation we can't have.
And it doesn't matter whether you use nineteen ninety Kyoto
or two thousand and five Paris or twenty seventeen zero CARBONAC.
Since two thousand and five we're in terms of New
Zealand flatlining, but in terms of the world only four
percent of their missions are also human induced as well, Jamie.
So the end of the day, isn't it about resilience?
So adapting with the climate. The climate's always changed, otherwise
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we'd still be in the ice age, and so adapting
and being resilient and putting our money in our mouth
where the actual issues are, Jamie, and capture those opportunities.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Are you out in the Miami Saturday morning?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Blair actually goes missing an action for about a week.
Actually during Dutch shitting. Her heads south. So someone's got
to keep the GDP rolling and keep the farm running.
But the kids and I usually go out and stalk
a few ponds Dutch sheitting. It's not a massive messive thing.
In Northicago, to be fair, because we usually have pretty
dry ponds at this time of year. But there are
water in the ponds and there are ducks around, so
I'm sure we'll we'll go and find some.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Jamie, Yeah, will you scare them off those ponds for
the other shooters in the North Otaga region. Jane Smith,
thank you very much for your time. Thanks Jamie Okay,
Jane Smith. They're kicking off the country today. We've got
two visits across the ditch today. The first one is
with Michael Harvey. Indonesia have decided to introduce like a
Milk in Schools program. It's going to present huge opportunities
(12:04):
for the New Zealand dairy industry. Also before the end
of their Jeremy Rook's Canterbury based lifestyle Hobby Farming correspondent
does he need an arc in Canterbury? Chris Russell Arrosi
correspondent and Rowena is at the Dairy Women's Network conference
in Hamilton. Welcome back to the Country. Twelve twenty two.
(12:34):
Andy McDonnell paneling the show out of Auckland. He wasn't
listening to the show yesterday. Andy. We played a wee
bit of Murray Head and one night in Bangkok on
yesterday's show, Getting Ready for the Riversdale Rugby Club Reunion
forty years on from nineteen eighty five. Anyhow, Michael Harvey
has no interest in that at all because he's based
in Sydney. He's Rabobank's senior dairy analyst. And well, Indonesia's
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going to introduce effectively what we would know as milk
and schools program and the good news for US as
a dairy exporting nation is they're going to try and
get milk down the throats of sixty million students. What
does that mean for us, Jamie, thanks for having me.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah. Look, school milk programs, as you said, they're not new.
We had one here in Australia back in the fifties,
a bit more before my time. But I think it's
a positive reminder that, you know, dairy is a veryrial
nutritional product that governments around the world see is an
important part of the diet and that's fundamentally what's driving
this most recent government policy, a broad based increase in
(13:38):
the role out of our school milk program to sixty
million students, but also a number of pregnant mums and
expecting mums in Indonesia as well, So that in itself
presents this potentially enormous increase in the size of the
white milk market in Indonesia. Now there's questions around whether
they'll be able to do it as successfully as they can,
but ultimately, if they are able to roll it outlatively,
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they're thinking it's going to create a market increase of
around two billion leaders or more of white milk consumption
in Indonesia. So that itself is the opportunity for a
growing white milk market in Indonesia. And then it becomes
a question of product mix. What you know, what actually
product does that look like? Where do they source the
milk from? Do they actually need to import some of
that product? So that's the question there, But that's an
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enormous opportunity if they can successfully roll this out.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, So as it stands at the moment, And apologies
if you've already given this, I was trying to read
something and listen at the same time and I can't
multitask Michael. So a good portion of their milk is
already imported.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
I mean, Indonesia are what we would classify as a
net importer, so they're an import deficit economy. It's a
growing market because of the macro demographics that are at
play there, So they import over two billion leaders and
look on a liquid milk eqivalent base every year. And
exporters like New Zealand are certainly very heavy in that market,
So that itself is important trading partner already presents a
(15:00):
new opportunity as they grow that white milk market. But
what I mean clearly what we're watching in all this
is one there's also a government policy that's that play
here in Indonesia where they want to try and boost
domestic milk production to cater to that growing market for
white milk for school milk, And there's questions around how
that's going to be achieved, given you they are already
a net importer of dairy products. But potentially it creates
(15:22):
opportunities to supply feed and equipment and heifers and so
forth into that market as they build the domestic kurd.
But there's also likely to be some opportunities just to
export dairy ingredients and products into that market as that
market grows. So there's some a few layers of opportunity,
a few moving parts around how it might look like,
and it's clearly going to be a multi year sort
of program as they roll without.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, historically New Zealand has said and I know this
because I'm reading it from your press release, Michael excellently
composed too. I might add, historically New Zealand has had
a large dairy cow heifer export business, exporting on average
ninety thousand head annually. However, a ban was implemented and
twenty twenty three following a several maritime incidents, including one
(16:07):
very tragic one, So that opportunity as it stands at
the moment for New Zealand farmers is not there.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
No, that's right. That's something we're watching quite closely because
there is this ambition to significantly increase domestic production in Indonesia.
With that there will be a greater need to import heifers.
We're starting to see a few volumes trickle out of
Australia into that market and it's important timing because, like
you said, New Zealand at an export banning place. Generally speaking,
(16:35):
for both Australia and New Zealand, over a long period
of time, a lot of their hefer trade indu Asia
has been into the China market. That market's been very
very weak recently because they're actually going through herd reduction.
So this potentially creates an opportunity if there was a
if there was a shift in government policy. But what
you're also seeing in Indonesia is a recognition that clearly,
whatever happens, they're not going to be able to source
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all the heapers out of this part of the world.
So they're actually trying to open up markets and get
protocol in place to be able to source heppers out
of other regions like South America. So it's one of
the layers that we're keeping a close eye on.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Hey, just to finish on we've got duck shooting or
duck hunting. I've got to be politically correct. Season to
look forward to here in New Zealand this weekend. I'm
not sure whether you're better off or worse off than us.
You've got an election to look forward to. Have you
early voted?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I haven't where we make a habit of wandering down
with the dog to the local school to get a
sausage and cast their vote. Yeah, so it's a I
guess it's an important date on the calendar for Australia.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, Albanize is going to get back, is the he
the poles.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Are looking that way.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Yeah, I'm certainly not my expertise. I'll stick to my lanes,
but the poles are certainly reading that way absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Hey Michael Harvey out of Rabobanks, Sydney office, Thank you
very much for your time.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Thanks thanks having me got on.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
That's the first trip across the ditch today, Chris Russell Arossi, correspondent.
But later in the hour it's twenty seven after twelve,
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a very wet Canterbury Jeremy Rocks he's after the break.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh, come find.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Bang on twelve thirty year. If the country brought to
you by Brant Canterbury is very very wet at the moment,
let's go there. Our guy lifestyle hobby farm correspondent Jeremy
Rocks Jezer, How bad is it?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh, it's not too bad. We've had one hundred and
fifty mils but it's just been steady, so no drama
around flooding or anything for us anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah. I note that they're evacuating the seal on hunts
or something like that, so there's obviously a bit of
surface flooding. Maybe the worst weather could be up the
road in Wellington, a rare red level wind warning a
possible threat to life. Will keep an eye on that one.
Where do I start with you? Solar farms. They've opened
a big new solo farm down the road from you,
(19:25):
just just sort of north or northwest of Ashburton. Yeah,
have you got any comments on said solo farm?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Well, just renewables are a waste of time unless it's hydro.
I mean, just look what's happened in Spain and southern France.
I mean it's just an efficient It doesn't work, it's
expensive and I mean the carbon footprint of producing panels
of wind turbines is off the chart, so you know,
and look at the power prices in mainland when they've gone.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, okay, that's all very well, but you can't get
got enough hydro to sustain our energy needs. Well, there's
no bigger proponents of dams than me, but a they
take a while. You've got to get consents to do them.
Admittedly Shane Jones is going to fast track that, but
our energy needs are immediate.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, but I mean this has been an ongoing issue
for years and we're just at the mercy of the
greens and everything and it's all ridiculously let's get it done.
I mean wind and soul is hopeless. I mean wind
like Watson Wellington. You've got to turn the bloody turbines
off because they'll blow the bits otherwa and and you're
not generating a lot of power on your solar panels today.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Are you?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But that one down the nash Burton or near Ashburton
can generate a hell of a lot of power. And
I understand those solar panels are good for what twenty
twenty five years?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, but you have. It's how well they weren't when
they actually came, depending on what the weather done.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Okay, what you're also up and well actually talking about
the greenies, you're sounding like one yourself. You don't want
a bar of this changes to our ge legislation.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, I don't, because I think once you open a
can of We're you know, Pandora's box, you can't.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Put it back.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And I think it's as usual it's been decided by
people who aren't affected directly by the consequences of it,
because we're always being told Fartner's about what's good for us,
so what's not without being actually included in the process.
And I think I think that's the biggest issue I've got.
And I mean, once you get into this ge GM stuff,
you behold it to mont Santo and all these big
(21:34):
corporates who have proprietary rights on seeds, and you run
into issues with chemical resistance and stuff worse than we've
got now. So no, And also the irony is we
have a taste Pure Nature brand and if you start
putting in genetically modified GMO stuff around, well that completely
is asked about face without national brand, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I will be asking Chris Russell, who's coming up shortly
on the show. I think he might have an opposite
opinion to you on this one here.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, yeah, but if you're putting boluses like bow
there and stuff, you know you're creating a problem. I mean,
in Australia they finish all their animals on grain and
we finish ours on grass. And grass is a natural
you know, you know, a natural source of protein for
animals that ruminant animals have been designed to digest properly.
(22:27):
Whereas on feed lots, you know, cattle aren't designed to
bloody grain, are they. It's grain? Speaking of grange, because
I'm really annoyed about fish and game because you know,
duck sitting coming up this weekend. And it isn't about
landowners not having a license. We know that because you're
shitting in your own farm. But I want to know,
and particularly after the way fishing game have been carrying
(22:48):
on in Southland, why any person who is invited to
shoot ducks on a private farm should have to pay
for a license. I don't know. In all the thirty
years and forty years of ducks and when we shot
at home as well and feeding out grain and stuff
to bring the ducks in. I don't know any that
fish and game have had on the duck population or
(23:10):
added to it. And in fact, ducks are polluting you
know Lake Ellsmere or White Aura, you know, and stuff
like that. And so why should I have to pay
for a day license, I mean, a full second license.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
You've got no argument with me on that one. Let's
finish on a really license. I know there should be.
There should be an opening morning license for a lot
of shooters. They go out at seven o'clock in the morning,
they fire a few shots and anger till nine or
ten the guns have brought away. And that's what I
agree with you in opening day license. Let's just finish
on a really positive note. You sent me a we
(23:46):
text or a pixed this morning of some calf prices.
I can't believe this on with you. One thousand and
ninety dollars for one hundred and seventy kilo stare calf.
That's huge, huge money. IOPs, where are you gone, Jeremy?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But no, no, none of the online options. A yeah,
the prices are just going mad. Like today, I think
the average price of stairs will by the look of
it will be five to eighty or something like that.
Everyone's just going mad because of the price. Is so
really good for the guys who are stuck in with
beefcaut and stuff, and it's really good for the industry.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
All right, Jeremy, I got to go, Thank you very
much for some of your time. Good luck on Saturday morning.
You yep, yep, and we're going to go to a break,
but just some breaking news. The WiFi is not flashy.
I'm going to have to send a list of complaints
to Auckland HQ about the Queenstown studio. Look, just warning
coming through or a message coming through about this potential
(24:45):
threat to life in Wellington, and they're asking people and
this sounds rather dire, doesn't it. They're asking people to
go to the middle of their houses, so there must
be some hell of a wind. And Wellington will follow
that one up. Maybe Michelle might update that one on
Rural News if she's got her head headphones on. But
(25:05):
we will take a break on the other side of it.
We'll do Rural News with Michelle Andy McDonald with Sport
and I'm going to tell you how you can win
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from our Dunedin studios.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
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Speaker 6 (26:50):
For your locals.
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Speaker 9 (26:52):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and you mentioned that wild weather that's
happening across the country. A little bit of an update
with that. So there's been a deluge of rain and
potentially life threatening wins are bashing parts of the country.
A rare red warning has been issued for Wellington and
the alert level indicates possible threat to life from destructive wins.
There's orange wind warnings that cover Marlborough and Wirra Rapper
(27:14):
as well, and orange rain warnings continue for Canterbury and
kai Korda, with Selwyn under a state of emergency. So
keep an eye it out there, folks. Are the wins
I think I was reading on the warnings before in
Wellington set to get up to one hundred and forty
kilometers an hour, which is pretty full on stuff, So
stay safe out there. And that's for rural news. We
have Andy McDonald's sport sport with.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
An AFCO Kiwi to the Bowl since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yes thanks Michelle.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
And in sport, Black Fern seven star Georgia Miller and
exciting Blues outside back Braxton Sorenson McGee headline. Five uncap
players named in the Black Ferns fifteen squad for the
upcoming PAC four series. No room for World Cup winners
at Ruby Tuwey, Chelsea Bremner or Renee Holmes in the
thirty three strong squad the Central Pulse. They've recruited former
(28:02):
Australian Diamond Gabby Simpson as a temporary replacement ahead of
the twenty twenty five antak Ain Zed Sorry Premiership Netball League,
providing mid court cover for injured Silver Ferns Maddie Gordon
and Whitney Sooness and just live. In the NBA halftime
between the Houston Rockets Golden State Warriors must win for
the Rockets. They are up seventy six points to forty nine.
(28:23):
That's sport, Jamie, Hey, Andy, is there a better rugby
player in there? There isn't because she won the Calvin
Ar Tremaine Memorial Trophy in this country than Georgia Miller.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
You'd be hard to argue with that.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
Wallace Attiti hasn't played much, but based on his last
year's form that there'll be an argument.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'd give an Ardie Savella. But she is outstanding and
it's interesting some of the old guard not making the
cut and that is very exciting young fullback out of Auckland.
And I've just forgotten the name which you mentioned in
your sports Braxton Sorence and McGee. Yeah, well, a name
like Sorenson. There's a bit of leg breeding in there
as well. I think what she's a bit of a
gun as well. Really looking forward to that. We're going
(29:01):
to take a break. On the other side of it.
We're off to Australia for the second time today. Our
Assie correspondent is Chris Russell. They've got their election on Saturday. Oh,
Chris is a bit of a right winger. I know
how he'll be voting, but I think he might be
on the wrong side of this one. He's up next,
coming up to thirteen away from on our Ossie correspondent
(29:23):
second trip across the Tasman today is Chris Russell. Chris,
I know you're a center right voter. You're going to
be on the wrong side of Saturday's election.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
Well, I must say today, Jamie, it's certainly looking that
that's going to be the case. And of course a
lot of questions already being asked is why that is.
You know, has it been a campaign based on truth
or based on lies?
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Who knows.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
But unless we see another sort of unwinnable election when
like we did with the Morrison government, I don't think
we're going to see a changing government. And of course
there are a lot of farmers nervous about that, particularly
the West Australian farmers who are very concerned about this
ban on live sheep exports because they just don't have
anywhere to go and the sort of compensation money the
(30:09):
government's offering is not going to pay for the extra advatise,
extra capacity to handle them, move them to the Eastern States,
or any of those sort of changes. So it's a
nervous election I think for farmers Jaming.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Maybe you need Trump to change the election result like
he did in Canada.
Speaker 11 (30:25):
Chris Well, I think he's already had an effect because
I think a lot of people are equating, probably unjustly.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Peter Dutton with Trump in some of his views.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
He had one of the toughest jobs when he was
a minister looking after immigration and brought a security and
so on, and he was seen to be a hard man,
which you need to be in that job. And so
I think some people have said, well, this is perhaps
not the sensitive man that we want running that. I think,
particularly women have come against him. I've been at some
of the pre polls just talking to people there, and
(30:58):
I think there's definitely a trend again favoritism for Peter
Dutton when it comes to the female vote, who feel
they need a bit of sensitivity, a bit of understanding
about their plight, and they believe they're going to get
more out of Albanesi than they are going to get
out of Dutton.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
At this stage, talk.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
To me about the potential battle between Bega Cheese and
Fonterra over mainland cheese. Of course, Fonterra is looking to
get rid of its consumer brands.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
Yes, well, I understand that Bega Cheese just had a
decision from the Supreme Court which has rejected Fonterra's attempt
to stop Bega renegotiating a long running branding agreement over
the mainland brand. But Barry Irvin is still very interested.
He's the chairman of Vega Cheese in buying the four
(31:47):
billion dollar mainland consumer butter and cheese business, which is
spun out of Fonterra in New Zealand. So they're obviously
happy with the outcome of the Supreme Court case and
that's been around. That agreement with Fonterras is two thousand
and one, covering cheese in Victoria and Tasmania under the
Vega brand, which it also markets and generates about six
(32:11):
percent of the mainland group's revenue.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
Fonterra wanted the court to rule that its devestment for
mainland division wouldn't affect the existing deal with Vega, but
of course Viga is saying no, if you're going to
take that out, we want to have a chance having
I go. So it'd be interesting to follow where that goes.
Barry Irvine is a very determined man. I've interviewed him
a couple of time on my podcast series and he's
a very determined man.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
So it'll be an inting battle.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Hey Chris, what's the name of your podcast? I'm giving
you a shameless plug here.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
Ah well, it's called ag Reminders and it's about to
be relaunched by our Institute Australia here in Australia. For
a long time it was with Southern Cross Ostereo, but
you'll see it back on deck shortly. There's about forty
three episodes covering all sorts of aspects from cheese daring,
animal welfare and so on.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Now I was going to cover this one on Rural News,
but she's kept or she's kept the power to dry
and left the story for you. Virtual fencing is now
legal in New South Wales. It's likely to save farmers millions.
Speaker 11 (33:14):
Well, when you look at the cost of fencing at
the moment, you're looking at around about ten thousand dollars a.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Kilometer to put in physical fencing.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
So for a long time New South Wales has stood
out against the other states of Queensland West Australia. Tas
MADEI in Northern Territory where virtual fencing has been illegal
for a long time and said no, we're still concerned
about animal welfare rights and so on. But there's been
some modification of the currents and the voltages that are used,
and so it's now going to be legal in New
(33:44):
South Wales. I must say it looks pretty cumbasso and
still to me they're wearing this little mini.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Solar panel around their neck when they walk around. But
it's certainly his idea.
Speaker 11 (33:53):
It was particularly useful in western New South Wales where
you can sit in Pitt Street in Sydney and move
the from one water hole to another just by pushing
the fence up behind them remotely by using satellite based controls.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
So I think where it's going to be a good
value thing.
Speaker 11 (34:11):
It's also of course going to save a lot of
damage from pigs, kangaroos EMUs to the fencing the physical
fencing that's there, and I think everyone's very keen to
see virtual fencing being allowed despite the drawbacks of this
expense and the heavy collars.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Around their necks.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Let's finish quickly with footy. We're both big fans. Are
you happy with les Kiss your new Wallaby's coach or
not till next year?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah? I'm very happy. I think that was predictable.
Speaker 11 (34:36):
I'm surprised and I'm pleased to see that Schmid's going
to stay on now until the middle of next year.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
It wasn't.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
I mean, there's two advantages. One is I think he
has lot more to do and a longer time we
get with Schmid, the better the Wallabies will be for it.
The downside is of course that Les kiss Onney has
about fourteen months to prepare the side for the World Cup,
and if everything falls apart over the next year, while
he's not going to have much time to try and
recover it. But I think that's unlikely, and I think
(35:05):
that everyone is gambling.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
On the fact that Schmid's going to continue.
Speaker 11 (35:08):
To do a great job. We've got the British and
Irish Lions tour coming up shortly.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
He's got a pretty big schedule, which I know he's
nervous about.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
And he's been allowed more time home with his family
at Kawakawa up in the top of the North Island there,
which is understandable that he wants that at his age.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
He's also keen for the while he's not to be
seen to.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Being coached by a sort of Dad's army of coaches,
so I think he's excited about Les coming.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
We're excited about both of them being.
Speaker 11 (35:33):
There, and I just hope that Joe Schmid stays on
as a consultant for less, a bit of a mentor
for him as he carries on the good work.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay, Chris Russell, thanks for your time. Got to go
enjoy another term of Anthony Albaniz. He wo're taking a break.
We're going to wrap it with Rowena Duncan. Is that
the Dairy Women's Network and your conference in Hamilton? Sure,
just a wrapping of the show off to Hamilton, Rowena,
don't come. Just reminding her if you want to win
(36:02):
the Kaiwaker storm Force jacket, text the keyword win and
how many seasons you've been farming to five double o nine,
don't forget your name? And where you're listening from? Rowena
is listening from Hamilton. The dairy Woman of the Year
will be crowned tonight, Rowena. Who's it going to be?
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Oh, I don't know, Jamie. It's yeah, it's always a
tricky one and I'm looking forward to finding out.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
You know.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
This started back in twenty twelve when Barbara Kuruger won it.
Other winners have included the Lanks of Kathy Melne who
was the first female president of Federated Farmers. So yeah,
it's always great to have a gala dinner with a
couple of hundred women all dressed up to the nines
and crowned someone who's pretty inspirational to the industry.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
But hey, look, it is a miserable day in.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Hamilton here today some nice, misty, drizzly rain, so hopefully
farmers out there need it because it's pretty miserable.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Otherwise, is this an equal opportunities function tonight? Can blokes
turn up? Well?
Speaker 8 (36:54):
Absolutely, Jamie, we had definitely not discriminatory. If you went
in Queenstown, you could have come along and I bet
you you had a ball. We could have put a
nice pink scarf on you and you could have had
a photo boost photo with me and embraced it.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Well, good old John mcavin, he never fails and never
disappoints me at all. He's he's wanting a dairy man
of the Air.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Oh well, I guess we could look into doing that.
You know, has he got some nominations for me? We
could form a committee, have a meeting about a meeting
and make it happen.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Hey, have you got the finalists for this? Year's dairy
Woman of the Year in front of you perchance.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I don't actually, but I think it as Lara Sutton,
Francis beats In and Joe Sheridan's so yeah. Francis is
based in mid Canterbury, I think from memory, Lara's based
in the White Cuttle and so Joe as well. She's
a manager of our farm. Lara works for Dairy and
Z and Francis has just really been quite inspirational in
(37:50):
her community from what I remember. I know she does
more than that, but you've put me on the spot.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Jaw Okay, right, well I'm out of time, Rowena, thank
you very much. We'll talk to the dairy Woman of
the Year on SO tomorrow show. Catch you back then.
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