November 19, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie talks to Jason Te Brake, Dan Boulton, Tangaroa Walker, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Gay New zeal And. Welcome to the Country. The
(00:45):
show is brought to you by Brand. I'm Jamie McKay
and Metallica. Never really got Metallica more of a Pet
Shop Boys kind of guy, but the old Bell Clutherboger,
Michelle Watts loaded it up and all of you who
went along to Metallica last night, I hear they were
quite good.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So there you goo.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Metallica the music theme for today. We're heading to Japan
to kick off the show today. Jason to Brak, chief
executive of Zesbury's there and Zesbury came out yesterday with
record returns per heck there anyhow for all fruits groups.
So that's a really, really good news story. We've got
a few big wheels on the show today. We've got
(01:22):
another chief executive, Dan Bolton. He's in charge of Silver
Fern Farms, their biggest meat exporter. He's just back from
the USA, Canadaate, China and UK. The prospects, honestly for
red meat are good. In fact, they're great at the moment,
but how.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Long will it last?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
TANGUAROA Walker is a dynamic young Southland dairy farmer who's
a bit of an innovator. It would be fair to
say he's got like a social media following of three
hundred thousand or something like that. He wants to crowd
fund his way into an equity partnership to buy a farm.
And we're going to catch up with our Ossie correspondent
Chris Russell. I see on his list he said, you
(02:00):
can name your price at the moment for beef in Australia.
All that to do with Michelle or wander in here
for rural news as well. We'll do sports news for you.
The silver Ferns getting up over England will update that
story for you as well. But let's kick it off
with Jason to Break, the chief executive of Zespury in Japan.
(02:20):
Early morning over there. Thanks for some of your time, Jason.
Do you still squeeze your six foot six frame into
economy when you're traveling on behalf of Zesbury?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, I've been known to do that.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I can fit the leaves under the seat in front
of me if I need to, Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Surely surely with these record returns, Jason, you can afford
to go further up the plane.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Well, look at the main thing are us for us
is continue to focus on what actually we need to do,
which is selling and marketing our fruit for the best
value we can. And you know, we're having a strong
year this year, which is good, seeing good demand for
the fruit and a strong recognition for our brand as well.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So let's have a look at the press release forecast
portray returns up from your August This is an November
forecast release yesterday, up from the August forecasts for all
fruit groups, and as I said earlier on a per
hectare level, record returns are now forecast for all fruit groups.
(03:19):
Is that because we're getting more productive as well as
better prices.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, there is an element of we've actually had a
pretty strong production season last year, so orchard yields are
up and at the same time we've been able to
maintain and in some cases like green beansh able to
increase the value of the fruit as well.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You had a record crop of two hundred and fifteen
million trays this year, obviously having no difficulty finding a
home for it all.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I mean we worked pretty hard to be honest.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's been a.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Tough season and globally, you know, the world is changing
almost every week, it feels like, so particularly through Asia,
it's been more challenging. But we've had a very strong
year in Europe, very strong year in North America and
being able to really work on a diversified market portfolio.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The fact that or the news that Trump dropped the
tariffs some keyw fruit's got to be good for your industry.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I mean we're a little bit concerned just around the
price inflation impact and whether that would see consumer demand
drop off in the coming season, but obviously having that
drop into tariff, and the tariff for US has been
over forty million dollars that we will spend this year
on tariffs, so good to be able to get that
money back into the pocket when we.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Look at returns on a per heck there basis for
all the fruit types zespery sun gold or your gold
key with fruit basically stands out head and shoulders.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, I mean, gold has still got very strong demand
around the world, and we're still continuing to increase the
amount of licensing that we've been doing. Seeing more demand
in the future, and that's right throughout most of our
key markets. We've seeing good, strong demand at good value
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I note that key we fruit red or zesp Keywi
fruit red returns less than half the amount on a
per hectary basis than gold. It obviously yields lower as
the crop, but you still get good returns for it.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, Ruby read you're finding that because it's still a
maturing product for us. So some orchards are going quite
well because they've been more established, they've got higher productivity
on a per tray basis, we're getting a better return
for that, but some orchards are still early in that stage,
so they are still maturing and getting their productivity up.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
The wilst talk a.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Couple of seasons ago that Zesbury green or just the
old normal key fruit that we all grew up with
Chinese gooseberries if you're old enough to remember, that would
be a bit of a sunset industry.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
But it's very much made naissance.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah it is, and to be honest, we're actually seeing
strong demand on green as well. We had a health
claim this year in the European Union, which is the
first time a fresh fruits had a health claim before.
But particularly around digestive health, and you're seeing that for
a Europe through Asia markets they're putting quite a focus
on digestive health. North America this year is also been
quite strong for US with demand as well.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I see Mike Hoskin, hosking, I better get it right.
I'm sounding like Winston. They're champions Key We for it Green.
He's a bit of a health freak, old Mike, And
are you finding that this is part of the reason
why people are getting in behind it? Is it, for instance,
more healthy for you than ken We Fruit gold, which
would be my preference.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It depends on what you're asked to So I mean,
obviously having Mike pushing us as always beneficial. But you know,
we're obviously spending quite a bit on advertising, promotion and
branding around the world every year as well, so that
certainly is helping. We're seeing that people will buy it
for different reasons. So if they're focusing on digestive health
and they want fiber, then green is great. If they
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want vitality and vitamin sea, then sun gold and Ruby
Red is like a real novelty type product. But it's
particularly attracting younger consumers into the category.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Which is really good.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We know that the Asians are particularly attracted to kiwi
fruit red the fruit. They love the color, and I
guess they love the taste as well. Is that what
you're seeing in the likes of Japan where you are now?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, both Japan and China are our key markets for
ruby red, but also this year we launched in the
USA as well, so that was quite strong. You're seeing
younger consumers, so younger you know, sort of kids, teenagers,
early adults who probably wouldn't be buying kiwi fruit, enjoying
the taste, enjoying the sort of the vibrancy of the
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color with ruby red, and then saying, oh, actually I
might start buying more kiwi fruit. So it's bringing people
into the category, which is quite good.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
How are you getting on with the piracy issues in
China in terms of the unauthorized Yeah, I'm sorry I
should have said unauthorized planting, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, we're seeing an increasing sophistication
in terms of what they're doing there. So they're getting
better at growing the fruit, they're growing more of it,
and they're also getting better at selling the fruit. We're
actually able to keep above that. You know, we're currently
pricing about double what they are and being able to
keep that value quite strong because people are still recognizing
(08:28):
that there's good quality fruit coming out of New Zealand
and they're willing to pay the premium for that. But
we certainly see a bit more activity happening in our
space at the moment on that one.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Jason to Break, chief executive of ZESPRI with us. He's
in Japan at the moment and he stops off on
the way home.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, heading through to Singapore US this.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
We've got to catch up with our marketing team in
Singapore looking at the future for our brand and how
we position that around natural nutrition and health. So a
big focus for us over the next ten years will
be how we really doubled down and focus on building
a strong brain that's globally iconic around the world.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Jason to Break look at me as a very small
time investor in the keyw fruit industry. I don't mind
if you upgrade the premium economy on the way home
from Singapore with your six foot six frame. I reckon
you've deserned it, or you've earned it, you deserve it.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Okay, Thanks Jamie, I'll keep.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That you're going to take no notice of that at all,
But anyhow, I admire your discipline.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
No, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
No, we've got to keep focusing on doing what we
can for grower returns and making sure we get the
money back to our growers because you.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Know it's challenging out there.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Water cultures are a tough industry to be and so
we've got to make sure we keep focusing back on
value for our growths.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh, you keep working hard for the keyw fruit growers
of this country. Jason to break their chief executive.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Of as Espring. He reminds me of a former chief.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Executive of Silver Fir and Farms, King Keith Cooper. Remember him,
Hello Keith, if you're listening. He used to make the
team and including wild Mateland Jeffrey. They had to travel
when they're going overseas for silver Fern Farms with only
carry on luggage because Keith never wanted to wait at
the baggage carousel. He was too impatient for that. I
thought that was a bit tough as well, when you're
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traveling for three or four weeks and you've only got
two shirts and two sets of pants. But never mind
they did it. So there you go, Jason to break
traveling economy. He's a big bloke, as I said, six
foot six, a Kiwi fruit industry in very good.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Shape at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Talking about silver Fern Farms and the red meat industry,
it's in good shape at the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Two.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Dan Bolton's the chief executive. We're going to go and
chat to him next. He's just back from the USA, Canada,
China and the UK and the Prime Minister's Breakfast hosted
by Balance at the Canterbury or christ Church show last week.
The Prime Minister was quoting Dan Bolton about the prospects
of or good prospects for red meat. So we're going
(10:57):
to talk to him next. Tanguaoa Walker South dairy farmer
who wants to crowdfund his way into an equity partnership
to buy a farm, and our Rosie correspondent Chris Russell
lots to talk about. There isn't it zero by twenty
fifty A lost cause. A lot of people are saying
that it's all on the country and it's all brought
to you by Brant.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Dan Bolton is the chief executive of silver Fern Farms,
our biggest meat company. In the past two months, he's
been in US, Canada, China and the UK in a
perfect position to judge the prospects for our red meat industry.
They are all of our big red meat markets and
Dan at the Prime Minister's breakfast at the christ Church
Show last week, the Prime Minister was quoting you, so
(11:56):
you obviously got on his air and told him of
the great prospects for red meat.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Jamie. Yes, it has been pretty
fantastic signals coming back from the market. You know, a
year ago we said the world's going to be short
on protein and we're seeing that play out and all
our key markets, which is just an outstanding place to be.
So you know, we're the US and we know what's
driving that. You know that low hast heard numbers for
a long time, so we're in at least a good
(12:20):
couple of years of good, strong beef pricing up there.
But you know, we're seeing huge beef demand and all
the other key markets as well. And what's been a
big standout is Europe and the UK. You know, we've
got our free trade agreements up there and actually we've
filled all our quota into that market and they want
more of our product, which is which is outstanding. And
you know, what we're seeing also is that it's not
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only a good demand for protein and good demand for
all of our species. You know, these customers are really
gravitating to you know, our new zealng farming system and
our sustainability leadership and it's just opening up doors and
opportunities all over the place, which is great. And I
think our challenges. You know, we've also got low beef
numbers at this point in time, low point of the
beef cycle, so you know, how do we service those
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right customers and maximiser value back to our farmers. But
things are looking very positive and it's been our key
message on our roadshows that look positive for you know,
for the for the years ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Last weekend we had Trump dropping the taroffs on beef
and key we fruit. Is that going to make a
jot of difference in the short term anyhow to what
key We farmers are receiving for their beef because basically
the US consumers or the US importers were picking up
the tab anyhow.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Yeah, I mean, at a very high level, it's you know,
it's good news it's positive that those those tariffs have
come off, where as we know, trade is anything but straightforward,
so it's going to sort of play out over the
next sort of weeks and months. But I think that
question is there a direct benefit today for farmers. I
think that's going to be a bit of a challenge.
We did a pretty good diet job as New Zealand
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when the tariffs came on that we could pass that
on to further up the supply chain, you know, and
it's the importers that wear that cost so clearly is
those tariffs have come off, you know, where those costs
have been worn on the way up, that's where they'll
be looking at recovering though, So that sort of business
as usual for us, and we'll sort of be managing
that through there. But I think long term there is
(14:08):
significant demand and we see really favorable price and continuing
with potential upside into the US market. But I think
the big challenge or the big watch out, and we've
talken to our farmers about that is actually the secondary
impacts And what wasn't super clear last Friday when this
news came out is around Brazil. You know, we've talked
about that brazil volume today they are locked out of
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the US that are at a seventy six percent tariff,
right and that's creating some real tail winds for importers
that continue to supply the US. But if that forty
percent retaliatory tariff came off Brazil and Brazil reato the US,
that could cause disruption. And unfortunately, you know, when it
came a bit clearer that that forty percent tariff remains
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on Brazil. So you know this at this point in time,
things are releably favorable. But I guess the key message
to farmers is we've just got to understand where that
Brazil volume goes. And just for some context, and then
Brazil we exports three and a half million tons of
beef a year and New Zealand does about five hundred thousand,
so quite a big volume where that product ends up,
(15:10):
and you know, sort of just watching what happens with
Brazil in the US, there's probably our big watch out.
But then that could create opportunities in other markets because
right now Brazil's flowing into China, so if they return
back into the US, maybe there's more beef opportunity for
growth and value back into the China market, so it's
a bit of a swings and roundabouts, but you know,
that's trade and we've do a pretty good job in
(15:30):
New Zealand navigating those things.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We've talked about beef. The prospects for beef certainly in
the next couple of years seem very good. Indeed, is
LAMB equally as positive it.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Is, Jamie. I mean, so, first of all, the markets
underpinning the schedules on in land, which is fantastic to see,
and then land we've had almost two years of really
good returns that everyone's enjoying, which is excellent. What's I
think really exciting right now is it's Europe and the
UK particularly there to driving the favorable returns in behind
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the farm gate schedule. And I think last time we
saw favorable you know, schedules, it was because China was
driving that. So we've got those two markets underpinning the
LAMB schedule and China is improving every month. So as
China improves again, that's just going to underpin the LAMB
schedule and that's why I'm confident that we should also
have a favorable land outlock as well, and you know,
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getting our LAMB farmers back into a growth mindset is
going to be important. But I think the only caution
I would say is that land pricing and market is
at levels we haven't seen before, and there's always a
risk that they could tip off and we come falling
down the other side. I just think where supply is
and how short it is on all protein types that
actually protein prices globally have been reset. So I think
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we are a new territory and our customers are telling
that us as well. But we just need to be
really careful as exporters that we don't push it too
far and cause that awful crash that we've seen before.
So I don't think we're in that territory that's our
job to avoid. But I think you know, there's enough
signals and enough market tension in China slowly recovering that
we're going to keep our land pricing favorable as well.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think we'll take that just a couple to quickly
finish on what did you make from the outside looking
into the alliance Dawn Meat Steal sixty five thirty five partnership.
Winston Peters of course, has been arguing with lots of people,
including myself about this one. He says that the silver
fir and farm Steel, when you had a fifty to
fifty joint venture with Shanghai Mailing, was a disaster. You'd
(17:26):
sold the family's silverware. Has it been a disaster for you?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I think quite opposite. I think it was pretty challenging
at that point in time. I started just after that
deal was completed, and I can tell you, you know, having
a recapitalized balance sheet and the things that we've been
able to do and grow our business to where it
is today has all come on the back of that investment.
So yeah, I think saying it's a disaster, I think
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that can't be any further from the any further from
the truth. So great to see Alliance being recapitalized, you know,
and we wish them all the best. You know, they're
a strong partner here in New Zealand and the markets,
and Dawn's a reputable partner in the meat industry as well.
So yeah, look forward to how that all plays out.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Now next Thursday. Nige or Woodheads Farm, he was the
twenty nigenal on the Ands farm. He was the twenty
seventeen young farmer of the air. We're going to host
a Southern Storm shout for all the farmers in South
Otago and South London who got blown away. It wasn't
only the farmers you got hammered. You guys lost the
roof on Finnigan, your big meat processing plants in bel Cluther.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Yeah, we had three of our processing sites caught up
in that windstorm, which was, as you've seen, absolutely pretty horrific.
And one of our big roofs in Finland got knocked out,
and you know, I just want to do a big
call out, you know, the local contractors and they dropped
everything and they worked through the long weekend to get
ourselves back up and running. So you know, easy saw
everyone comes together to get things done, whether it's on
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farm or you know, supporting us, and I just really
wanted to a big call out for that. But it's
pretty eye opening when you d through the whole South
Tago region and see the damage here. It's going to
take a long time to recover. There's a lot of
work ahead, you know, but the resilience of our farm
and community and seeing people come together and you know,
events White Night, John Leanna doing just outstanding to get
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people together and you have a bit of a recess
and catch up and talk and you know, looking forward
to supporting that next week.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, well, thank you very much for providing the meat
for the barbie. Thanks to Emerson's and Spats and I
think A and Z's even helping with a coffee card.
It would be interesting to see how much business they
do as a Dan Bolton, Chief Executive of silver Fern Farms,
thanks for your time, thanks for your support.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Great coming, great to talk.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Put on your Dan Bang on twelve thirty here on
the country yep. Next Thursday, three to seven pm ish.
It's the Woodhead Farm levels flat halfway between Milton and
belk Luther. More to come on the directions on how
to get there. If you're a farmer or a business
person or anyone affected by the Southern storm, you're welcome
to come along. It's a great idea. Greg Menzis from
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Emerson said to us when we were launching the Mackayser
at the Canterbury Show. He said, look, we just want
to take the tiny pub down south and shout some farmers.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
What a good bloke that is.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Up next Michelle with the latest and auroral news. We'll
have sports news for you as well. TANGUAOA Walker and
Chris Russell before the end of the hour. Here's a
nice text and some decent music at last, Jamie Well
music taste. It is very subjective, isn't it? Ac DC
Tomorrow too, right? I'm a big ac DC fan, not
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so much Metallica. But you know, if you like the
Pet Shop Boys, you're hardly likely to like Metallica, are you?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Anyhow?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's very subjective personal taste. Michelle the Bellcluther Bogan. Up next,
it's a.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Score of.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Woods.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yes, Metallica, this is my favorite Metallica song, Michelle. She's
shaking her head and it's a cover of someone else's song.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
But there we go.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So let's see what Michelle Watt the Belle Cluther Bogan,
who admits to how many times have you seen Metallica?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And concert?
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Twice?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And in your youth? And Belle Cluther at thel Rosie, Oh.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
No driving around and forward Falcons my friend.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh glorious, glorious. What do you got for rural news?
Let's find out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The country's world news with cub Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower Brand visit steel Ford dot co
dot in said for your local stockers, was the.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Ford Falcon with the bench seat in the front.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
It was, indeed, yes, that is the last one across
the cluther Bridge.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, we used to get around and not of yours valiant.
The Valiant back in the day bench seat six of
you and they're no trouble at all. I don't think
we were listening to Metallica though we were doing farm visits.
We used to drive around on a Sunday after cheer.
Is I happy to go to church and then do
farm tours.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
I've just got this visionarizing farmers driving around with peat
short boys lasting out of.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I wouldn't have gone away with that anyhow.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
What's in rural news?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
The A two Milk company have upgraded its revenue guidance,
now expecting low double digit percentage revenue growth in the
current financial year. The dual listed business, which is holding
its annual meeting in Auckland on Thursday. I presume that
this is from Business Deest Today, so I presume they
meant today said in its training update that the twenty
twenty six outlook is ahead of expectations. It's cited stronger
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than expected training and infant formula and other nutritionals and
liquid milk categories, along its currency movements off the back
of the week in New Zealand dollar and Thursday's meeting
or today's meeting is the first since it purchased Yashilly
in Pocono and sold Matara Valley to Open Country Dairy
and it's rural news. You can find more at the
Country dot co dot ms.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
First purchased you are from Bell Kluth. Glorious, glorious ours.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Glorious ours will bring yours, don't.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, No, I'm a Riversdale boy, Heartland, Southland out of it.
So okay, there's Michelle with sports news.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
I know you've got sports news.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm doing sports sows you're doing rural news right here.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
We go sports on the country with AFCO one. We
owned and trusted it. That's rare.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
New Zealand have ended a troubled netball year on a high,
despite more than half the side battling sickness sickness over
the last week. The Silver Fans snared their three Test
series against England two to one with the fifty five
forty nine win and the Manchester decider. The fill in
coach has gone pretty well, it's all i'lso and the
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other thing, Michelle. The number of seasons basketball giant Lebron
James has played in the NBA now matches his famous
singlet number with the King, becoming the first player to
take part in twenty three consecutive seasons.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Also and sports news Jamie Scotland are now qualified for
the World Cup.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
They beat dem Mark yesterday for.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Football for the Football World Cup.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
They did indeed first time since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Up next, a young Southland dairy farmer who wants to
crowdfund his way into a farm. It's a good story.
Tangaroa Walker. Up next, He's a dynamic young dairy farmer.
His name is Tanguaraa Walker. Here's the guy behind the
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Farm for Life Hub, which is an online video learning
platform that delivers education to dairy farmers twenty four to seven.
This guy has two hundred and forty seven thousand followers
on Facebook and about forty five thousand on Instagram. And
Tangaroa are you never want to sit still? You want
a crowd fund a farm or crowdfund your way into
(24:54):
a farm.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
How's that going?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (24:57):
Really good mate. So we started off we thought we
use our messes with our following. You know, we've got
about three hundred thousand followers across social media platforms, and
I thought, oh, you know, if we can get everybody
to chip in a little bit, we might be closer
putting a bit good deposit down with the bank and
buying a farm. However, with my networks that i've I've got,
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my awful networks have said to me that it's going
to be quite challenging reporting back to three hundred thousand
people and paying them a dividend. So we sort of
changed change the way that we were trying. We're trying
to find the funds and we've gone with an equity
partnership style setup. So we Yeah, we were trying to
find six million dollars and the aim at the time
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three three weeks ago I did the video was to
raise two and a half million in two weeks, and
we were successful in that and we now need we
needed to raise another yeah, another three and a half
mill and we've found another one and a half, So
we're three and a half down with another two to
two and a half to go. And that's what I'm getting.
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Fifty to fifty deep equity right here with the bank.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Tangrah.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I know your mates with George Dodson, who's a regular
here on the show twenty twenty four Young farmer there.
I saw him on a social media platform. Don't ask
me which one, there's too many for me to follow, Tangrarah,
but I saw him on social media saying he was
going into bat for you because you got initially a
wee bit of negativity about your crowdfunding idea. People getting
(26:25):
the wrong end of the stick.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
Yeah, Like I think it was a bit of a
misunderstanding around what people think crowdfunding is. I think they
sort of might think that I'm trying to raise fund
for a school camp and asking people to just chipping money.
But we're not looking for hand out at all. I'm
looking for investments, you know, people to invest their money
and be a part of our team and obviously get
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returns on their investment.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So I'm giving you a shameless an opportunity here for
a shameless plug. Why should people invest in you? We
know a lot about your online persona. Are you any
use in the cow shed?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah? Absolutely mate.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Look, I've built a trusted brand over the last sort
of eight years with Farm for life and we've built
a social media platform connecting urban.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And rural New Zealand.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
And I think that by having a Yary farm that's
a farm for life, Gary Farm is just going to
open the gates to all things rural. I can start
talking about budgets, talking about returns, maybe bring people into
a little bit of financial literacy, literacy around you know,
buying a farm and whatnot, and it would be just
a really cool journey to go along. And also I'll
(27:33):
be able to open my gates and set our farm
up for young school you know, young kids to come
from schools and college kids to come to the farm
and there will just add a little bit more vest
to our social media platform.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I think it'll be awesome.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
As well as got really good returns for our investors.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Have you got a farm lined up?
Speaker 10 (27:52):
Yep, We've got one farm lined up. We've got our
eyes on three others as well, but obviously there's going
to be a We've got our eyes set on on one,
but there's three others in the pipeline that we're looking
at and getting keen to jump on.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You're farming in Southland just outside of him the cargo.
I know you've had a hell of a time in Southland,
another awful spring, really, and then we had the storm event.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
How did you? How did How are you faring through
all that?
Speaker 10 (28:18):
Look, we've come up pretty well on scathe. We're actually
one of the only farms in our area that had power.
So we farm bring the seals and cows through our
forty side hearing bone to come and milk them and
just relieve the gills with some pressure.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Holy hell, how long did that take?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Ah?
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Jesus took them about they had two temps six hours each.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Wow, as sooner you than me on that one.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Were rotary cows too, so.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh Jesus, So they wouldn't They wouldn't have a clue.
You'd have to train them, did you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
That's the one?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh my goodness. Okay, you're recovering now. And of course
we know a lot of the country's getting away bit dry.
Southland won't be sure to moisture. I wouldn't think at
this stage of the season. Is it really starting to
bolt away? Not a seed, but in terms of the feed.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yeah, Look, I think we're sitting comfortably right now.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
We're sort of it. We took of two weeks ago
we were.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
Growing about eighty ninety kilos a day, and I'm sort
of buttoned back to about sixty over the last week,
so we've definitely pulled back a little bit, a little
bit more moisture, I think, a bit more humidity, but
the ones I'm going to bug her off anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So I think she's going to.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Keep drying out. And now Craft's trying to go on
the stress and start trying to pop a seeded up.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I think, well, I reckon, You're a dynamic young bloke
and worth investing and if people are interested and perhaps
becoming an equity partner with you, shameless plug time again here,
tangu raha.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
What do they do? I should be sending you a bell.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, you have send me.
Speaker 10 (29:41):
Look, they can jump on over to any of my
social media platforms Farm for Life on Facebook and Instagram
and seen me a private missige there or email through
tongue to or t A n G A ro o
A at Farm for Life that's farm for Us at
the number four dot code or indeed, and I'll read
in the reply to all of my emails and I get.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Pooped on you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I wish you all the best for your new venture.
Tongue raah Walker. Thanks for your time on the country.
A great Southland, A good luck, very dynamic young man.
Here's a text coming in. Hey, Jamie, I actually saw
Noddy or drive his Valiant into the Riversdale Hotel one
night at about two am. What a crash from mys
(30:26):
I was there? Actually, mys Hey had not. He's the
only black I know he's ever driven his car through
the not through the door, through the wall, into the
Riversdale Pub. It seemed funny at the time. I don't
think it was so funny for Naughty the next morning
when he had to front up and fix the Riversdale Pub.
But the things you do when you're silly and young.
A up next to our Australian correspondent, Chris Russell. He's
(30:56):
our guy across the ditch. His name is Chris Russell,
our Ossie correspond Chris. Continuing on with the meat theme,
We've spoken to Dan Bolton on the show today, the
chief executive of Silver fir And Farms, the biggest meat
exporting company, and you're kind of reiterating what he's been
saying when it comes to beef at the moment, it's
name your own price.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
Yeah, well, I think that's what that was the headline
I saw in the paper today is you know, farmers
are going to be naming their own price, particularly for
a process of cows and so on, and it's quite
extraordinary where the prices are going and where they're going
to go. Of course, we've now had the ten percent
(31:38):
tariff which has been cut as I think it has
for New Zealand as well, and you know, I think
that we can really look forward to beef being quite
a commodity in the future. It's just amazing. Over in America,
of course, people are quite happy to pay high.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Prices for beef.
Speaker 11 (31:54):
They can't get enough beef. It's their protein of choice
over there. So you know, at the some of the
South American countries like Argentina and Brazil have been exempted
from that zero tariff policy, so that also plays in
our favor. So we've got so many stars aligned at
the moment. I think everyone's looking forward to good prices ahead.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Jomie.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
One of the really interesting things to come out of
Australia in the past couple of weeks has been the
opposition Coalition Party or the National Party anyhow, you need
to show me up on this one. They defend their
decision to drop net zero by twenty fifty and I
wonder whether this is going to catch on around the world.
Is this an unattainable goal?
Speaker 11 (32:37):
Well, I mean, I think it's probably is undertainable when
you look at the figures for the fact that China
and India actually put on last year more coal fired
stations than in fact the entire gas fired production of
energy for the whole year for the rest of the world.
(32:57):
So you know, I mean, I think we're such a
drop in the bucket that it is an unattainable goal.
But even putting that to one side, the question is
why did we walk away from it as an example,
even though it really has inconsequential to the total world situation.
And I think that really the cost in energy prices
to the whole of Australia, which is why I think
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Susan lays now come on board as head of the
Liberal Party, you know, has been horrendous our energy prices here.
We're the richest energy rich country, one of the richest
in the world. I think America is richer, but that's
the only one. And yet you know, we're sitting there
paying the most for our energy and exporting ilac coal
to China and India where they're producing cheap energy and
(33:39):
competing with their goods back in Australia. Again, the whole
thing is so ludicrous and in terms of its actual
effect on emissions it's pretty much you could say zero.
And yet we're being the light of the world in
this regard. So both parties have said, look, both opposition
parties have said, look, we're not We're not going to
(34:00):
do this. Who other side story, Jamie, is that the CSIRO,
which you equill on your DSR DSIR, has just had
jobs cut by three hundred and fifty researchers, which is
a catastrophe really for core research here. And that's all
in the interests of saving money. And yet the Prime
Minister is trying to spend two billion dollars on having
(34:22):
the next COP thirty I think it's the COP thirty
two conference here in Australia, which is going to cost
us about two billion dollars to do, and people are saying,
we've just got our priorities all up the creek. You know,
the savings in money from the CSIRO is a fraction
of two billion dollars, and yet he rates that more
importantly than creating our brights and best scientists to create
(34:45):
new ideas like the web and all sorts of things
that we've invented over the years.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I think that this is.
Speaker 11 (34:52):
A bit out of control now, not at it's a
fantastic idea, but is it too idealistic? And can we
afford it?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Jamie, Well, those cop conferences are just a high carbon
footprint gas bagging session. If you asked me, flying fifty
or sixty thousand people to somewhere in the world to
solve climate change ain't really solving anything. But don't start
me on that one. The death of John Laws, one
of your most famed broadcasters. He was quite a big deal,
(35:20):
wasn't he a.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
He was a massive deal. And we had a huge
state funeral in Sydney yesterday. My goodness, I haven't seen
a big funeral like that for a long time. But
you know, everybody who was anybody there, I must say,
with the exception of Alan Jones didn't turn up, but
I think he maybe just didn't want to take the
glass off the funeral because he was clearly a colleague.
(35:41):
But the big players were all there. You know, Russell
Crowe was there, the heads of our biggest and brightest
companies were there. Many of the Prime ministers still alive today,
of course, were still here. I think he interviewed seventeen
Prime ministers over time. So it was a massive funeral
and held in St Andrew's Cathedral. He was a much
(36:02):
respected guy. I don't think he was particularly religious, but
it was a big church funeral. And he was such
a big player. He was someone who could ask all
the hard questions but at the same time had massive
respect and used his wealth to bring massive good to
so many different people. So a fitting farewell, and I
think a lot of legacy will be left by John
(36:25):
Laws to take us into the future.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Jamie, and just quickly to finish on the eshes get
under way tomorrow, how exciting. Normally kick off in Brisbane,
but it's Perth this time round. Are you going to
the Sydney Test in the new year.
Speaker 11 (36:38):
I'm hoping I'll get to the Sydney Test. I've got
a couple of mates who've got access to corporate boxes
and if I can be there by hawk By Crook,
I'll be there. It's always a fantastic event. But look,
the series is going to be great of course the
record is very much in Australia's favor and there's pages
and pages of analysis this morning talking about how many
meters you bowled down the pitch differently in Australia than
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England and so on. But at the end of the day,
it's all going to be how people feel on the day.
It's going to be a reduced bowling lineup with Pat
Cummins and also with Hazelwood out from injury, but so
it's going to be led by Scott Boland, he's a
fantastic bowler and some new Sheffield Chill bowlers who we
haven't seen before. So I think our bowling lineup is amazing.
(37:21):
It'll be a great series. English a confident even though
five of them have only played here before. But nonetheless
I think I would predict that we will win it,
and I hope we will win it well.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Jamie Chris Russell ketch again, same time, same place next week.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No worries, mate, and how good will that.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Ash the series?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Be back to wrap the show after the break, wrapping
the country on a Thursday this time next week from
three to seven pm. We'll be at the Woodhead Farm
at Lovells Flat halfway between Milton and Bealcluther. Thanks to
this the Emerson's Tiny pubns spots far they're going to
be there, Milton Lions doing the barbecues, Silver Fir and
(37:59):
Farms during the mates.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
If you're a storm.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Affected farm or a business person, we'd love to see
you there. More about that over the next few days.
We'll catch you back tomorrow with Shane Jones. How good.
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went along to Metallica last night, I hear they were
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
So there you goo.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Metallica the music theme for today. We're heading to Japan
to kick off the show today. Jason to Brak, chief
executive of Zesbury's there and Zesbury came out yesterday with
record returns per heck there anyhow for all fruits groups.
So that's a really, really good news story. We've got
a few big wheels on the show today. We've got
(01:22):
another chief executive, Dan Bolton. He's in charge of Silver
Fern Farms, their biggest meat exporter. He's just back from
the USA, Canadaate, China and UK. The prospects, honestly for
red meat are good. In fact, they're great at the moment,
but how.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Long will it last?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
TANGUAROA Walker is a dynamic young Southland dairy farmer who's
a bit of an innovator. It would be fair to
say he's got like a social media following of three
hundred thousand or something like that. He wants to crowd
fund his way into an equity partnership to buy a farm.
And we're going to catch up with our Ossie correspondent
Chris Russell. I see on his list he said, you
(02:00):
can name your price at the moment for beef in Australia.
All that to do with Michelle or wander in here
for rural news as well. We'll do sports news for you.
The silver Ferns getting up over England will update that
story for you as well. But let's kick it off
with Jason to Break, the chief executive of Zespury in Japan.
(02:20):
Early morning over there. Thanks for some of your time, Jason.
Do you still squeeze your six foot six frame into
economy when you're traveling on behalf of Zesbury?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, I've been known to do that.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I can fit the leaves under the seat in front
of me if I need to, Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Surely surely with these record returns, Jason, you can afford
to go further up the plane.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Well, look at the main thing are us for us
is continue to focus on what actually we need to do,
which is selling and marketing our fruit for the best
value we can. And you know, we're having a strong
year this year, which is good, seeing good demand for
the fruit and a strong recognition for our brand as well.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So let's have a look at the press release forecast
portray returns up from your August This is an November
forecast release yesterday, up from the August forecasts for all
fruit groups, and as I said earlier on a per
hectare level, record returns are now forecast for all fruit groups.
(03:19):
Is that because we're getting more productive as well as
better prices.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, there is an element of we've actually had a
pretty strong production season last year, so orchard yields are
up and at the same time we've been able to
maintain and in some cases like green beansh able to
increase the value of the fruit as well.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You had a record crop of two hundred and fifteen
million trays this year, obviously having no difficulty finding a
home for it all.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I mean we worked pretty hard to be honest.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's been a.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Tough season and globally, you know, the world is changing
almost every week, it feels like, so particularly through Asia,
it's been more challenging. But we've had a very strong
year in Europe, very strong year in North America and
being able to really work on a diversified market portfolio.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The fact that or the news that Trump dropped the
tariffs some keyw fruit's got to be good for your industry.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I mean we're a little bit concerned just around the
price inflation impact and whether that would see consumer demand
drop off in the coming season, but obviously having that
drop into tariff, and the tariff for US has been
over forty million dollars that we will spend this year
on tariffs, so good to be able to get that
money back into the pocket when we.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Look at returns on a per heck there basis for
all the fruit types zespery sun gold or your gold
key with fruit basically stands out head and shoulders.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, I mean, gold has still got very strong demand
around the world, and we're still continuing to increase the
amount of licensing that we've been doing. Seeing more demand
in the future, and that's right throughout most of our
key markets. We've seeing good, strong demand at good value
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I note that key we fruit red or zesp Keywi
fruit red returns less than half the amount on a
per hectary basis than gold. It obviously yields lower as
the crop, but you still get good returns for it.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, Ruby read you're finding that because it's still a
maturing product for us. So some orchards are going quite
well because they've been more established, they've got higher productivity
on a per tray basis, we're getting a better return
for that, but some orchards are still early in that stage,
so they are still maturing and getting their productivity up.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
The wilst talk a.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Couple of seasons ago that Zesbury green or just the
old normal key fruit that we all grew up with
Chinese gooseberries if you're old enough to remember, that would
be a bit of a sunset industry.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
But it's very much made naissance.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah it is, and to be honest, we're actually seeing
strong demand on green as well. We had a health
claim this year in the European Union, which is the
first time a fresh fruits had a health claim before.
But particularly around digestive health, and you're seeing that for
a Europe through Asia markets they're putting quite a focus
on digestive health. North America this year is also been
quite strong for US with demand as well.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I see Mike Hoskin, hosking, I better get it right.
I'm sounding like Winston. They're champions Key We for it Green.
He's a bit of a health freak, old Mike, And
are you finding that this is part of the reason
why people are getting in behind it? Is it, for instance,
more healthy for you than ken We Fruit gold, which
would be my preference.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It depends on what you're asked to So I mean,
obviously having Mike pushing us as always beneficial. But you know,
we're obviously spending quite a bit on advertising, promotion and
branding around the world every year as well, so that
certainly is helping. We're seeing that people will buy it
for different reasons. So if they're focusing on digestive health
and they want fiber, then green is great. If they
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want vitality and vitamin sea, then sun gold and Ruby
Red is like a real novelty type product. But it's
particularly attracting younger consumers into the category.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Which is really good.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We know that the Asians are particularly attracted to kiwi
fruit red the fruit. They love the color, and I
guess they love the taste as well. Is that what
you're seeing in the likes of Japan where you are now?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, both Japan and China are our key markets for
ruby red, but also this year we launched in the
USA as well, so that was quite strong. You're seeing
younger consumers, so younger you know, sort of kids, teenagers,
early adults who probably wouldn't be buying kiwi fruit, enjoying
the taste, enjoying the sort of the vibrancy of the
(07:47):
color with ruby red, and then saying, oh, actually I
might start buying more kiwi fruit. So it's bringing people
into the category, which is quite good.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
How are you getting on with the piracy issues in
China in terms of the unauthorized Yeah, I'm sorry I
should have said unauthorized planting, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, we're seeing an increasing sophistication
in terms of what they're doing there. So they're getting
better at growing the fruit, they're growing more of it,
and they're also getting better at selling the fruit. We're
actually able to keep above that. You know, we're currently
pricing about double what they are and being able to
keep that value quite strong because people are still recognizing
(08:28):
that there's good quality fruit coming out of New Zealand
and they're willing to pay the premium for that. But
we certainly see a bit more activity happening in our
space at the moment on that one.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Jason to Break, chief executive of ZESPRI with us. He's
in Japan at the moment and he stops off on
the way home.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, heading through to Singapore US this.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
We've got to catch up with our marketing team in
Singapore looking at the future for our brand and how
we position that around natural nutrition and health. So a
big focus for us over the next ten years will
be how we really doubled down and focus on building
a strong brain that's globally iconic around the world.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Jason to Break look at me as a very small
time investor in the keyw fruit industry. I don't mind
if you upgrade the premium economy on the way home
from Singapore with your six foot six frame. I reckon
you've deserned it, or you've earned it, you deserve it.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Okay, Thanks Jamie, I'll keep.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That you're going to take no notice of that at all,
But anyhow, I admire your discipline.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
No, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
No, we've got to keep focusing on doing what we
can for grower returns and making sure we get the
money back to our growers because you.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Know it's challenging out there.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Water cultures are a tough industry to be and so
we've got to make sure we keep focusing back on
value for our growths.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh, you keep working hard for the keyw fruit growers
of this country. Jason to break their chief executive.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Of as Espring. He reminds me of a former chief.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Executive of Silver Fir and Farms, King Keith Cooper. Remember him,
Hello Keith, if you're listening. He used to make the
team and including wild Mateland Jeffrey. They had to travel
when they're going overseas for silver Fern Farms with only
carry on luggage because Keith never wanted to wait at
the baggage carousel. He was too impatient for that. I
thought that was a bit tough as well, when you're
(10:13):
traveling for three or four weeks and you've only got
two shirts and two sets of pants. But never mind
they did it. So there you go, Jason to break
traveling economy. He's a big bloke, as I said, six
foot six, a Kiwi fruit industry in very good.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Shape at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Talking about silver Fern Farms and the red meat industry,
it's in good shape at the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Two.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Dan Bolton's the chief executive. We're going to go and
chat to him next. He's just back from the USA, Canada,
China and the UK and the Prime Minister's Breakfast hosted
by Balance at the Canterbury or christ Church show last week.
The Prime Minister was quoting Dan Bolton about the prospects
of or good prospects for red meat. So we're going
(10:57):
to talk to him next. Tanguaoa Walker South dairy farmer
who wants to crowdfund his way into an equity partnership
to buy a farm, and our Rosie correspondent Chris Russell
lots to talk about. There isn't it zero by twenty
fifty A lost cause. A lot of people are saying
that it's all on the country and it's all brought
to you by Brant.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Dan Bolton is the chief executive of silver Fern Farms,
our biggest meat company. In the past two months, he's
been in US, Canada, China and the UK in a
perfect position to judge the prospects for our red meat industry.
They are all of our big red meat markets and
Dan at the Prime Minister's breakfast at the christ Church
Show last week, the Prime Minister was quoting you, so
(11:56):
you obviously got on his air and told him of
the great prospects for red meat.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Jamie. Yes, it has been pretty
fantastic signals coming back from the market. You know, a
year ago we said the world's going to be short
on protein and we're seeing that play out and all
our key markets, which is just an outstanding place to be.
So you know, we're the US and we know what's
driving that. You know that low hast heard numbers for
a long time, so we're in at least a good
(12:20):
couple of years of good, strong beef pricing up there.
But you know, we're seeing huge beef demand and all
the other key markets as well. And what's been a
big standout is Europe and the UK. You know, we've
got our free trade agreements up there and actually we've
filled all our quota into that market and they want
more of our product, which is which is outstanding. And
you know, what we're seeing also is that it's not
(12:41):
only a good demand for protein and good demand for
all of our species. You know, these customers are really
gravitating to you know, our new zealng farming system and
our sustainability leadership and it's just opening up doors and
opportunities all over the place, which is great. And I
think our challenges. You know, we've also got low beef
numbers at this point in time, low point of the
beef cycle, so you know, how do we service those
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right customers and maximiser value back to our farmers. But
things are looking very positive and it's been our key
message on our roadshows that look positive for you know,
for the for the years ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Last weekend we had Trump dropping the taroffs on beef
and key we fruit. Is that going to make a
jot of difference in the short term anyhow to what
key We farmers are receiving for their beef because basically
the US consumers or the US importers were picking up
the tab anyhow.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Yeah, I mean, at a very high level, it's you know,
it's good news it's positive that those those tariffs have
come off, where as we know, trade is anything but straightforward,
so it's going to sort of play out over the
next sort of weeks and months. But I think that
question is there a direct benefit today for farmers. I
think that's going to be a bit of a challenge.
We did a pretty good diet job as New Zealand
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when the tariffs came on that we could pass that
on to further up the supply chain, you know, and
it's the importers that wear that cost so clearly is
those tariffs have come off, you know, where those costs
have been worn on the way up, that's where they'll
be looking at recovering though, So that sort of business
as usual for us, and we'll sort of be managing
that through there. But I think long term there is
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significant demand and we see really favorable price and continuing
with potential upside into the US market. But I think
the big challenge or the big watch out, and we've
talken to our farmers about that is actually the secondary
impacts And what wasn't super clear last Friday when this
news came out is around Brazil. You know, we've talked
about that brazil volume today they are locked out of
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the US that are at a seventy six percent tariff,
right and that's creating some real tail winds for importers
that continue to supply the US. But if that forty
percent retaliatory tariff came off Brazil and Brazil reato the US,
that could cause disruption. And unfortunately, you know, when it
came a bit clearer that that forty percent tariff remains
(14:49):
on Brazil. So you know this at this point in time,
things are releably favorable. But I guess the key message
to farmers is we've just got to understand where that
Brazil volume goes. And just for some context, and then
Brazil we exports three and a half million tons of
beef a year and New Zealand does about five hundred thousand,
so quite a big volume where that product ends up,
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and you know, sort of just watching what happens with
Brazil in the US, there's probably our big watch out.
But then that could create opportunities in other markets because
right now Brazil's flowing into China, so if they return
back into the US, maybe there's more beef opportunity for
growth and value back into the China market, so it's
a bit of a swings and roundabouts, but you know,
that's trade and we've do a pretty good job in
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New Zealand navigating those things.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We've talked about beef. The prospects for beef certainly in
the next couple of years seem very good. Indeed, is
LAMB equally as positive it.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Is, Jamie. I mean, so, first of all, the markets
underpinning the schedules on in land, which is fantastic to see,
and then land we've had almost two years of really
good returns that everyone's enjoying, which is excellent. What's I
think really exciting right now is it's Europe and the
UK particularly there to driving the favorable returns in behind
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the farm gate schedule. And I think last time we
saw favorable you know, schedules, it was because China was
driving that. So we've got those two markets underpinning the
LAMB schedule and China is improving every month. So as
China improves again, that's just going to underpin the LAMB
schedule and that's why I'm confident that we should also
have a favorable land outlock as well, and you know,
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getting our LAMB farmers back into a growth mindset is
going to be important. But I think the only caution
I would say is that land pricing and market is
at levels we haven't seen before, and there's always a
risk that they could tip off and we come falling
down the other side. I just think where supply is
and how short it is on all protein types that
actually protein prices globally have been reset. So I think
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we are a new territory and our customers are telling
that us as well. But we just need to be
really careful as exporters that we don't push it too
far and cause that awful crash that we've seen before.
So I don't think we're in that territory that's our
job to avoid. But I think you know, there's enough
signals and enough market tension in China slowly recovering that
we're going to keep our land pricing favorable as well.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think we'll take that just a couple to quickly
finish on what did you make from the outside looking
into the alliance Dawn Meat Steal sixty five thirty five partnership.
Winston Peters of course, has been arguing with lots of people,
including myself about this one. He says that the silver
fir and farm Steel, when you had a fifty to
fifty joint venture with Shanghai Mailing, was a disaster. You'd
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sold the family's silverware. Has it been a disaster for you?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I think quite opposite. I think it was pretty challenging
at that point in time. I started just after that
deal was completed, and I can tell you, you know, having
a recapitalized balance sheet and the things that we've been
able to do and grow our business to where it
is today has all come on the back of that investment.
So yeah, I think saying it's a disaster, I think
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that can't be any further from the any further from
the truth. So great to see Alliance being recapitalized, you know,
and we wish them all the best. You know, they're
a strong partner here in New Zealand and the markets,
and Dawn's a reputable partner in the meat industry as well.
So yeah, look forward to how that all plays out.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Now next Thursday. Nige or Woodheads Farm, he was the
twenty nigenal on the Ands farm. He was the twenty
seventeen young farmer of the air. We're going to host
a Southern Storm shout for all the farmers in South
Otago and South London who got blown away. It wasn't
only the farmers you got hammered. You guys lost the
roof on Finnigan, your big meat processing plants in bel Cluther.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Yeah, we had three of our processing sites caught up
in that windstorm, which was, as you've seen, absolutely pretty horrific.
And one of our big roofs in Finland got knocked out,
and you know, I just want to do a big
call out, you know, the local contractors and they dropped
everything and they worked through the long weekend to get
ourselves back up and running. So you know, easy saw
everyone comes together to get things done, whether it's on
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farm or you know, supporting us, and I just really
wanted to a big call out for that. But it's
pretty eye opening when you d through the whole South
Tago region and see the damage here. It's going to
take a long time to recover. There's a lot of
work ahead, you know, but the resilience of our farm
and community and seeing people come together and you know,
events White Night, John Leanna doing just outstanding to get
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people together and you have a bit of a recess
and catch up and talk and you know, looking forward
to supporting that next week.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, well, thank you very much for providing the meat
for the barbie. Thanks to Emerson's and Spats and I
think A and Z's even helping with a coffee card.
It would be interesting to see how much business they
do as a Dan Bolton, Chief Executive of silver Fern Farms,
thanks for your time, thanks for your support.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Great coming, great to talk.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Put on your Dan Bang on twelve thirty here on
the country yep. Next Thursday, three to seven pm ish.
It's the Woodhead Farm levels flat halfway between Milton and
belk Luther. More to come on the directions on how
to get there. If you're a farmer or a business
person or anyone affected by the Southern storm, you're welcome
to come along. It's a great idea. Greg Menzis from
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Emerson said to us when we were launching the Mackayser
at the Canterbury Show. He said, look, we just want
to take the tiny pub down south and shout some farmers.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
What a good bloke that is.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Up next Michelle with the latest and auroral news. We'll
have sports news for you as well. TANGUAOA Walker and
Chris Russell before the end of the hour. Here's a
nice text and some decent music at last, Jamie Well
music taste. It is very subjective, isn't it? Ac DC
Tomorrow too, right? I'm a big ac DC fan, not
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so much Metallica. But you know, if you like the
Pet Shop Boys, you're hardly likely to like Metallica, are you?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Anyhow?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's very subjective personal taste. Michelle the Bellcluther Bogan. Up next,
it's a.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Score of.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Woods.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yes, Metallica, this is my favorite Metallica song, Michelle. She's
shaking her head and it's a cover of someone else's song.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
But there we go.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So let's see what Michelle Watt the Belle Cluther Bogan,
who admits to how many times have you seen Metallica?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And concert?
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Twice?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And in your youth? And Belle Cluther at thel Rosie, Oh.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
No driving around and forward Falcons my friend.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh glorious, glorious. What do you got for rural news?
Let's find out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The country's world news with cub Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower Brand visit steel Ford dot co
dot in said for your local stockers, was the.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Ford Falcon with the bench seat in the front.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
It was, indeed, yes, that is the last one across
the cluther Bridge.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, we used to get around and not of yours valiant.
The Valiant back in the day bench seat six of
you and they're no trouble at all. I don't think
we were listening to Metallica though we were doing farm visits.
We used to drive around on a Sunday after cheer.
Is I happy to go to church and then do
farm tours.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
I've just got this visionarizing farmers driving around with peat
short boys lasting out of.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I wouldn't have gone away with that anyhow.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
What's in rural news?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
The A two Milk company have upgraded its revenue guidance,
now expecting low double digit percentage revenue growth in the
current financial year. The dual listed business, which is holding
its annual meeting in Auckland on Thursday. I presume that
this is from Business Deest Today, so I presume they
meant today said in its training update that the twenty
twenty six outlook is ahead of expectations. It's cited stronger
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than expected training and infant formula and other nutritionals and
liquid milk categories, along its currency movements off the back
of the week in New Zealand dollar and Thursday's meeting
or today's meeting is the first since it purchased Yashilly
in Pocono and sold Matara Valley to Open Country Dairy
and it's rural news. You can find more at the
Country dot co dot ms.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
First purchased you are from Bell Kluth. Glorious, glorious ours.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Glorious ours will bring yours, don't.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, No, I'm a Riversdale boy, Heartland, Southland out of it.
So okay, there's Michelle with sports news.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
I know you've got sports news.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm doing sports sows you're doing rural news right here.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
We go sports on the country with AFCO one. We
owned and trusted it. That's rare.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
New Zealand have ended a troubled netball year on a high,
despite more than half the side battling sickness sickness over
the last week. The Silver Fans snared their three Test
series against England two to one with the fifty five
forty nine win and the Manchester decider. The fill in
coach has gone pretty well, it's all i'lso and the
(23:43):
other thing, Michelle. The number of seasons basketball giant Lebron
James has played in the NBA now matches his famous
singlet number with the King, becoming the first player to
take part in twenty three consecutive seasons.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Also and sports news Jamie Scotland are now qualified for
the World Cup.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
They beat dem Mark yesterday for.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Football for the Football World Cup.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
They did indeed first time since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Up next, a young Southland dairy farmer who wants to
crowdfund his way into a farm. It's a good story.
Tangaroa Walker. Up next, He's a dynamic young dairy farmer.
His name is Tanguaraa Walker. Here's the guy behind the
(24:32):
Farm for Life Hub, which is an online video learning
platform that delivers education to dairy farmers twenty four to seven.
This guy has two hundred and forty seven thousand followers
on Facebook and about forty five thousand on Instagram. And
Tangaroa are you never want to sit still? You want
a crowd fund a farm or crowdfund your way into
(24:54):
a farm.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
How's that going?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (24:57):
Really good mate. So we started off we thought we
use our messes with our following. You know, we've got
about three hundred thousand followers across social media platforms, and
I thought, oh, you know, if we can get everybody
to chip in a little bit, we might be closer
putting a bit good deposit down with the bank and
buying a farm. However, with my networks that i've I've got,
(25:19):
my awful networks have said to me that it's going
to be quite challenging reporting back to three hundred thousand
people and paying them a dividend. So we sort of
changed change the way that we were trying. We're trying
to find the funds and we've gone with an equity
partnership style setup. So we Yeah, we were trying to
find six million dollars and the aim at the time
(25:41):
three three weeks ago I did the video was to
raise two and a half million in two weeks, and
we were successful in that and we now need we
needed to raise another yeah, another three and a half
mill and we've found another one and a half, So
we're three and a half down with another two to
two and a half to go. And that's what I'm getting.
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Fifty to fifty deep equity right here with the bank.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Tangrah.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I know your mates with George Dodson, who's a regular
here on the show twenty twenty four Young farmer there.
I saw him on a social media platform. Don't ask
me which one, there's too many for me to follow, Tangrarah,
but I saw him on social media saying he was
going into bat for you because you got initially a
wee bit of negativity about your crowdfunding idea. People getting
(26:25):
the wrong end of the stick.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
Yeah, Like I think it was a bit of a
misunderstanding around what people think crowdfunding is. I think they
sort of might think that I'm trying to raise fund
for a school camp and asking people to just chipping money.
But we're not looking for hand out at all. I'm
looking for investments, you know, people to invest their money
and be a part of our team and obviously get
(26:48):
returns on their investment.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So I'm giving you a shameless an opportunity here for
a shameless plug. Why should people invest in you? We
know a lot about your online persona. Are you any
use in the cow shed?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah? Absolutely mate.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Look, I've built a trusted brand over the last sort
of eight years with Farm for life and we've built
a social media platform connecting urban.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And rural New Zealand.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
And I think that by having a Yary farm that's
a farm for life, Gary Farm is just going to
open the gates to all things rural. I can start
talking about budgets, talking about returns, maybe bring people into
a little bit of financial literacy, literacy around you know,
buying a farm and whatnot, and it would be just
a really cool journey to go along. And also I'll
(27:33):
be able to open my gates and set our farm
up for young school you know, young kids to come
from schools and college kids to come to the farm
and there will just add a little bit more vest
to our social media platform.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I think it'll be awesome.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
As well as got really good returns for our investors.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Have you got a farm lined up?
Speaker 10 (27:52):
Yep, We've got one farm lined up. We've got our
eyes on three others as well, but obviously there's going
to be a We've got our eyes set on on one,
but there's three others in the pipeline that we're looking
at and getting keen to jump on.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You're farming in Southland just outside of him the cargo.
I know you've had a hell of a time in Southland,
another awful spring, really, and then we had the storm event.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
How did you? How did How are you faring through
all that?
Speaker 10 (28:18):
Look, we've come up pretty well on scathe. We're actually
one of the only farms in our area that had power.
So we farm bring the seals and cows through our
forty side hearing bone to come and milk them and
just relieve the gills with some pressure.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Holy hell, how long did that take?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Ah?
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Jesus took them about they had two temps six hours each.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Wow, as sooner you than me on that one.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Were rotary cows too, so.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh Jesus, So they wouldn't They wouldn't have a clue.
You'd have to train them, did you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
That's the one?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh my goodness. Okay, you're recovering now. And of course
we know a lot of the country's getting away bit dry.
Southland won't be sure to moisture. I wouldn't think at
this stage of the season. Is it really starting to
bolt away? Not a seed, but in terms of the feed.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yeah, Look, I think we're sitting comfortably right now.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
We're sort of it. We took of two weeks ago
we were.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
Growing about eighty ninety kilos a day, and I'm sort
of buttoned back to about sixty over the last week,
so we've definitely pulled back a little bit, a little
bit more moisture, I think, a bit more humidity, but
the ones I'm going to bug her off anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So I think she's going to.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Keep drying out. And now Craft's trying to go on
the stress and start trying to pop a seeded up.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I think, well, I reckon, You're a dynamic young bloke
and worth investing and if people are interested and perhaps
becoming an equity partner with you, shameless plug time again here,
tangu raha.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
What do they do? I should be sending you a bell.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, you have send me.
Speaker 10 (29:41):
Look, they can jump on over to any of my
social media platforms Farm for Life on Facebook and Instagram
and seen me a private missige there or email through
tongue to or t A n G A ro o
A at Farm for Life that's farm for Us at
the number four dot code or indeed, and I'll read
in the reply to all of my emails and I get.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Pooped on you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I wish you all the best for your new venture.
Tongue raah Walker. Thanks for your time on the country.
A great Southland, A good luck, very dynamic young man.
Here's a text coming in. Hey, Jamie, I actually saw
Noddy or drive his Valiant into the Riversdale Hotel one
night at about two am. What a crash from mys
(30:26):
I was there? Actually, mys Hey had not. He's the
only black I know he's ever driven his car through
the not through the door, through the wall, into the
Riversdale Pub. It seemed funny at the time. I don't
think it was so funny for Naughty the next morning
when he had to front up and fix the Riversdale Pub.
But the things you do when you're silly and young.
A up next to our Australian correspondent, Chris Russell. He's
(30:56):
our guy across the ditch. His name is Chris Russell,
our Ossie correspond Chris. Continuing on with the meat theme,
We've spoken to Dan Bolton on the show today, the
chief executive of Silver fir And Farms, the biggest meat
exporting company, and you're kind of reiterating what he's been
saying when it comes to beef at the moment, it's
name your own price.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
Yeah, well, I think that's what that was the headline
I saw in the paper today is you know, farmers
are going to be naming their own price, particularly for
a process of cows and so on, and it's quite
extraordinary where the prices are going and where they're going
to go. Of course, we've now had the ten percent
(31:38):
tariff which has been cut as I think it has
for New Zealand as well, and you know, I think
that we can really look forward to beef being quite
a commodity in the future. It's just amazing. Over in America,
of course, people are quite happy to pay high.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Prices for beef.
Speaker 11 (31:54):
They can't get enough beef. It's their protein of choice
over there. So you know, at the some of the
South American countries like Argentina and Brazil have been exempted
from that zero tariff policy, so that also plays in
our favor. So we've got so many stars aligned at
the moment. I think everyone's looking forward to good prices ahead.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Jomie.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
One of the really interesting things to come out of
Australia in the past couple of weeks has been the
opposition Coalition Party or the National Party anyhow, you need
to show me up on this one. They defend their
decision to drop net zero by twenty fifty and I
wonder whether this is going to catch on around the world.
Is this an unattainable goal?
Speaker 11 (32:37):
Well, I mean, I think it's probably is undertainable when
you look at the figures for the fact that China
and India actually put on last year more coal fired
stations than in fact the entire gas fired production of
energy for the whole year for the rest of the world.
(32:57):
So you know, I mean, I think we're such a
drop in the bucket that it is an unattainable goal.
But even putting that to one side, the question is
why did we walk away from it as an example,
even though it really has inconsequential to the total world situation.
And I think that really the cost in energy prices
to the whole of Australia, which is why I think
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Susan lays now come on board as head of the
Liberal Party, you know, has been horrendous our energy prices here.
We're the richest energy rich country, one of the richest
in the world. I think America is richer, but that's
the only one. And yet you know, we're sitting there
paying the most for our energy and exporting ilac coal
to China and India where they're producing cheap energy and
(33:39):
competing with their goods back in Australia. Again, the whole
thing is so ludicrous and in terms of its actual
effect on emissions it's pretty much you could say zero.
And yet we're being the light of the world in
this regard. So both parties have said, look, both opposition
parties have said, look, we're not We're not going to
(34:00):
do this. Who other side story, Jamie, is that the CSIRO,
which you equill on your DSR DSIR, has just had
jobs cut by three hundred and fifty researchers, which is
a catastrophe really for core research here. And that's all
in the interests of saving money. And yet the Prime
Minister is trying to spend two billion dollars on having
(34:22):
the next COP thirty I think it's the COP thirty
two conference here in Australia, which is going to cost
us about two billion dollars to do, and people are saying,
we've just got our priorities all up the creek. You know,
the savings in money from the CSIRO is a fraction
of two billion dollars, and yet he rates that more
importantly than creating our brights and best scientists to create
(34:45):
new ideas like the web and all sorts of things
that we've invented over the years.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I think that this is.
Speaker 11 (34:52):
A bit out of control now, not at it's a
fantastic idea, but is it too idealistic? And can we
afford it?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Jamie, Well, those cop conferences are just a high carbon
footprint gas bagging session. If you asked me, flying fifty
or sixty thousand people to somewhere in the world to
solve climate change ain't really solving anything. But don't start
me on that one. The death of John Laws, one
of your most famed broadcasters. He was quite a big deal,
(35:20):
wasn't he a.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
He was a massive deal. And we had a huge
state funeral in Sydney yesterday. My goodness, I haven't seen
a big funeral like that for a long time. But
you know, everybody who was anybody there, I must say,
with the exception of Alan Jones didn't turn up, but
I think he maybe just didn't want to take the
glass off the funeral because he was clearly a colleague.
(35:41):
But the big players were all there. You know, Russell
Crowe was there, the heads of our biggest and brightest
companies were there. Many of the Prime ministers still alive today,
of course, were still here. I think he interviewed seventeen
Prime ministers over time. So it was a massive funeral
and held in St Andrew's Cathedral. He was a much
(36:02):
respected guy. I don't think he was particularly religious, but
it was a big church funeral. And he was such
a big player. He was someone who could ask all
the hard questions but at the same time had massive
respect and used his wealth to bring massive good to
so many different people. So a fitting farewell, and I
think a lot of legacy will be left by John
(36:25):
Laws to take us into the future.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Jamie, and just quickly to finish on the eshes get
under way tomorrow, how exciting. Normally kick off in Brisbane,
but it's Perth this time round. Are you going to
the Sydney Test in the new year.
Speaker 11 (36:38):
I'm hoping I'll get to the Sydney Test. I've got
a couple of mates who've got access to corporate boxes
and if I can be there by hawk By Crook,
I'll be there. It's always a fantastic event. But look,
the series is going to be great of course the
record is very much in Australia's favor and there's pages
and pages of analysis this morning talking about how many
meters you bowled down the pitch differently in Australia than
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England and so on. But at the end of the day,
it's all going to be how people feel on the day.
It's going to be a reduced bowling lineup with Pat
Cummins and also with Hazelwood out from injury, but so
it's going to be led by Scott Boland, he's a
fantastic bowler and some new Sheffield Chill bowlers who we
haven't seen before. So I think our bowling lineup is amazing.
(37:21):
It'll be a great series. English a confident even though
five of them have only played here before. But nonetheless
I think I would predict that we will win it,
and I hope we will win it well.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Jamie Chris Russell ketch again, same time, same place next week.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No worries, mate, and how good will that.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Ash the series?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Be back to wrap the show after the break, wrapping
the country on a Thursday this time next week from
three to seven pm. We'll be at the Woodhead Farm
at Lovells Flat halfway between Milton and Bealcluther. Thanks to
this the Emerson's Tiny pubns spots far they're going to
be there, Milton Lions doing the barbecues, Silver Fir and
(37:59):
Farms during the mates.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
If you're a storm.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Affected farm or a business person, we'd love to see
you there. More about that over the next few days.
We'll catch you back tomorrow with Shane Jones. How good.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deere machinery.
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