September 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Stephen "Beaver" Donald, Wayne Langford, Craig Hickman, Dean Rabbidge, John McOviney, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Gay, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie MacKaye.
The show's brought to you by Brandt. This is Katie Perry.
We were listening to Katy Perry on the wireless back
in twenty ten on this day, fifteen year anniversary of
the christ Church First christ Church earthquake. Who would ever forget?
Now they've named I need to get straight into this
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because it wasn't on the midday news bulletin. They have
named the all Black side for the most important test
since the Rugby World Cup Final. And I'm going to
get some expert commentary from a blow who's a former
All Black broadcaster and the world's most famous white bater,
Steven Beaver Donald. But I'll just run through the team
(01:06):
before I go to Beaver. So as you'd expect a group.
Taylor Ewell up front, Scott Barrett Tupuvai moves into the
locking position. Simon Parker starts at number six. Ardie Savia
on the open side. Wallace Setiti's back at eight. Finley,
Christy Bowden, Barrett, Ricco Yuanni retains his place on the
left wing, Jordi Barrett and Billy Procton. No change in
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the midfield. Amoni Naruwa comes on to the right wing,
Will Jordan at fullback. What I do like about this
squad is that we do have a power forward bench
to take on the Springbok bomb squad. Tucky Ajo, Tamighty Williams,
Lomax Holland and Duplessy Carrefi. In the backs, Kyle Preston
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will make his debut. Quinta pire for a bit of
physicality in Damien Mackenzie right, he's chomping at the bit
to get on the radio because he's riding around in
Auckland somewhere in his high luks gr sport from Toyota
the Monica Toyota brand Ambassador Steven Beaver Donald, what did
you make of that team?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, it's not one that I don't think many people
would have got leading into twelve o'clock today, But I
like it. I'm excited by it. It's you said, it's
got a bit of everythinct. I like the Ford pack,
I like what they've got on the bench too. So no, overall,
I think it's a team we can all get excited about.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
As far as said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
They goes, do you think Razor was ever tempted to
go with a six two split on the bench and
diffuse the bomb squad that way because it looks like
the South Africans will do that.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Now look as far as and this is my personal
I think so much is made of a bomb squad,
you know, And yep, it works for them, but there's
no reason for us to go down that route. You've
got to appreciate the style of football they play, and
you've also got appreciate the athletes they've got and of
the athletes we've got. And if you start telling me
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the guys like Scott Bair at Artie Savia whilst it's
feeding in there can't go eighty minutes of high level,
then I think you're an idiot, you know. So to
be honest of your If im squad works for them,
we don't need it. I think it would be a
waste of our athletes to start going six to two
just because you know, there's this thing that works for
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South Africa. We've got great backs that we have the
ability to add impact with and versatility and that might
be something that we have over the rest of the world.
So but David, we start doing six twos and seven ones, Jamie,
I would have big concern.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, good on you, Beav. I've spoken like a true back.
We've got we have got power on the bench. When
you consider to Mighty Williams and Tyrol Lomax, we were
effectively our first choice props. So we're going to lose
nothing by bringing them on. But to be fair to
Ethan to grout good South London and Fletch and you'll
that've been very good.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh yeah, losing and I think again, going back to
your bomb squad coment, I think when you look at
impact off the bench, you don't necessarily have to think
the greatest athletes or what have you. You can think
as South Africa, it's scrum penalties and what's a drop's
job really in those final twenty minutes of big Test
matches is to do his job. It's not to run
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eighty meters. But I guess in the likes of TOSSI,
we're a little bit blessed with guys who can do both.
But yeah, what a luxury to have Lomax coming back
and sitting on the bench. And as you've mentioned Nell
and the grout, I think the group's had a you know,
almost a second coming. I know his career is probably
young by the time it'll be all wrapped up, but
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he's he's kicked again, which is great to see. Obviously
a bit of a setback last year, which you know
he probably didn't foresee coming. But he's kicked again. He's
looking great. And Yule who's had a wonderful super rugby
and now carrying on it at international.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, so ken Rico Yoani Amoni now right, and will
Jordan diffuse what's coming their way? I either Pollard bombs.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Of course they can't. But I mean again, I think
what's been lost a little bit is there's so much
more to I guess taking high walls than just to
catch I mean at the end of the day, but
catches these days if you don't do your job up front,
which is kick pressure, which is negating chases. Legally, it
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becomes a fifty to fifty contest. And it's called a
fifty to fifty contest because it can go either way.
So I've found a little bit. I just got a
little bit tithesome of August carry on that it's just
about to catch. It's not just about to catch when
it comes to the high ball, and I mean an isolation. Rico, well,
Jordan and the Morning Atawa can easily do that. But
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it's gonna be whether or not they're going to be
up in the air if South Africa is also challenging.
And then as I say it, then it becomes a
hand here or by the idea and cage it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So it's a fourteen thing now on Jamie okay, Rico
u Arnie. Look, he's copped a lot of criticism back
in the day when he first started in the All Blacks.
I thought he was going to be our greatest wing
ever he's taking his time to transition back to the wing.
But he's a berg strong, powerful man. I reckon he's due.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yes absolutely. Rico's as often I guess, a bit of
a whipping boy. And you know where he's playing. Jamie.
He's in the top seven backs in this country without
a shadow of a doubt, so I'm not surprised that
he's obviously starting. I was wondering whether before the pressure
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on in this game, they would be tended to put
him back at thirteen because he's defensively, very sound, very quick.
I guess laterally, which is going to have to be
at times on Saturday night with Chesley Colby in the
line going around the back of plays, But uh, he
will be there. And you say he probably is due
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one of those special performances. And you know he's somebody
who when you look at him, and you know even
historically through Super Rugby, he doesn't shy away from things,
you know, and it's a massive challenge. And I guess
you know what you're going to get from Rico. He's
not gonna he's not going to die wondering.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
As he said that night.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I introduced you as a former all black broadcaster, world's
most famous white Beata and of course the Monaco Toyota
Group Ambassador, which includes your beloved Poka Coe Branch.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Absolutely, I've gone on board pre recently with the with
the Manica Toyota Group. As you mentioned, they have they
have four stores in the in the southern part of Auckland,
and the branch has had a major major facelift and
as you shifted, so it's now right next to another
beloved part of my life and child and pocker Co Stadium.
(08:01):
So great to be on board with them, are you
funny us?
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Jamie?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I got thrown a little bit of the hospital pass
is my first gig for her crew, and they had
the opening the new site and pucker Co. So that
was a that was an experience to start with, but
prevent it. Still here is their ambassador, Jamie, so must
have done something right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, as I said earlier, you're driving the top of
the line Sport high lucks, you see, because you and
I have got a bit in common, Beaver. We're both
great former rugby players. Some people would argue otherwise. In
my case, we're both Toyota brand ambassadors. And I'm a
big and I'm a big disciple of the food chain
in life, and I you know, and I quote the
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food chain all the time here at work. But even
when it comes to Toyota brand ambassadors, some people are
not All animals are equal. I mean, I get the
SR five Cruiser, which is fantastic, You're one step up
with the g Sport. But you realize Richie gets a cruiser.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean where does Richie live now? He's
probably in the middle of Auckland, does he or he's
in Monica's that's right, that's right, Well, depending on how
much off off off roading he does with the family. Now,
I'm not sure he needed the g I Highluks, and
I'm lucky enough to have so log I'm very grateful
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for mine. I guess I got it. I got a
little bit wet. We're not too weir, I must say.
On Tuesday and day putting in the boat for the
star of the white bating season up here, and on
first day, you know what it's like, Jamie. You always
throw back your catch on the first day, which is
good because there's only one white bait. But second day
round not only did the white bait come, but I'm
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strong believe it the gr highlights help me get them.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Good on you. You're a great brand ambassador. I'll let
you carry on driving around Auckland and the traffic jams
and your gr highlu likes sport, Hey Beaver, thanks for
some of that some non and giving us some good
advice on that all black side which has just been named.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I can't wait, mate, and yeah, just can't wait to
see Eden Park on Saturday night with the whole country
and behind them. It's gonna it's gonna be special and.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Go the Stags. Eh, you're going to back the Stags.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh, I love the Stags. Look, they had to take
it off my former team. But like as I said
on our breakdown show, I love footy and we know
that they will be sold out Rugby Park there in
south And on Saturday afternoon, which will be the most
important game for people in the South And area on Saturday.
(10:37):
And they have the whole country behind them, I'd say,
apart from a very small part in christ Church, hope
they defend it.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well I've had the shield enough for long enough. Let's
get it. Good on you mate, Thank you very much
for joining us today. All right, Jamie, there we go.
Beaver Stephen Beaver Donald and the reason I ran with
this story to start with because of that all black
team for the most important test I think since definitely
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since the Rugby World Cup Final just got named it
midday and it didn't make that midday sports bulletin or
not the one I was listening to. If you've just
joined us, really the changes are Tupuvia going into Locke
Simon Park at a six while as Stitis in at eight.
Finley Christie obviously has to front up at nine. Emoni
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Naruwa replaces sever Reesho's out of the squad altogether. But
as I discussed with Beaver, we have got kind of
a bomb squad. Look to our Ford bench Takeyaho, Tamighty Williams,
Yrrel Lomax, Fabian Holland and Duplessy Carrefi, so we've got
plenty of power to take off the bench as well.
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Saturday is going to be so good with the Stags
as the curtain raiser and then the All Blacks against
South Africa at Eden Park. We haven't lost there since
the French scored the try from the End of the
Earth way back in nineteen ninety four. Up next, he
was going to kick off the show, but we had
to bring Bee for Ford. Wayne Langford, president of Federated
(12:11):
Farmers now Federated Farmers, as we alluded to on yesterday,
show up in arms about these stupid comments made by
doctor Mike Joy and Paris Should we stay or should
we go? And how was this Nelson Tasman region recovering
from the winter floods Today's Farmer Farmer Panel Excuse me
as Craig Hickman and Dean Rabbage Canterbury in South and
(12:33):
there's a certain irony in that one's a dairy farmer,
one's a sheep and beef farmer, although I think he's
got a dairy farming operation as well as Dean Rabbage,
former Xander MacDonald Award winner, John mcavine, Chris Russell. It's
all on the show today. We'll be back with Wayne Langford.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well fine, jus.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
It is twenty three after twelve. You are with the country.
Katy Perry was big in September of twenty ten. Wayne Langford.
I'm segueing from Katy Perry to Wayne Langthord as the
president of Federated Farmers very shortly Mike Joy and Paris.
Should we stay or should we go? But Yolo, do
(13:24):
you remember where you were and what you were doing
on this day fifteen years ago when that earthquake struck
in the middle of the night, I think four o'clock
in the morning by memory.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
Yeah, yeah, Well, maybe I'm confusing it with the other
one I thought I was. I remember with one of
the Crosses quake. So we were sitting there waiting for
the Fonterra milk price to come out Fonterra expected to
make a big announcement, and then then one of my
brothers said, oh, hey, something's happen down a cross. It's
here and so. But that might have been the next one,
the one.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That was in the Yeah, that might have been the
big one. And what is that twenty second of February
twenty eleven. No one will forget that. They got off
really lightly in comparison, should I say? It was still devastating.
I actually remember doing a fundraiser at not a fundraiser,
a community picked me up event. I think it was
at Darfield with Dick Taylor and Richard Lowe. It was
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very good to get up there, and Dick took me
around christ Church and showed me all the damage that
had been done. It was an eye opener, but nothing
like February twenty two.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I'm still disappointed that. And listen to my idea about
the Reds and Chushich. I thought it would have made
a beautiful dairy farm in there, as I clean that
a lot would be nice nice essig right, true, and
we could have done well in there.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, it might. It might have been a bit wet underfoot,
very low lying there, okay. Doctor Mike Joy a stupid
comment on LinkedIn bring back hanging for industry CEOs. He
was comparing the dairy industry to Mini Dean baby killers.
I mean the guys. He's a planker if you ask
me for saying that anyhow.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Yeah, absolutely kind of disgraceful and disgusting. Really, it is
not for we expect from someone you know in the
academia world or anyone in your own society really, and
it's incredibly disappointing. There's certain topics that I get a
lot of messages from farmers about and my phone was
blowing up yesterday afternoon when that one had come through.
And yeah, really disappointing, and figured feeds of seeking answers
(15:17):
from Victory University and what's going to happen there?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yes, I see your new dairy chair. Carl Dean has
written to Victoria University with the police. Explain if you
had a response yet.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Yeah, we have had a pretty watered down wet bus
ticket response saying oh you know, it's an apology here,
and there seems to be an apology written ironic considering
that doctor Mike Joy seemed to be doubling down on
those comments this morning in the paper, so I'm not
quite sure what's going on there. You know, I would
have thought that if a student of Victor Ernie had
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had said that about a vice chancellor that, you know,
the chancellors needs to be hung. I don't think they'd
be around at lunchtime. And we're not quite understanding why
this double stand.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Again. Absolutely, and as I said on yesterday's show when
the story broke, imagine if Miles Hurrell or Mike de Latour,
if I'd said that about Mike Joy, it would be
an outcry.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Yeah, definitely, And this is nothing against the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
I understand that we've got different views and we'll see
the world in a different way, and I'll often talk
to Mike when we're at different conferences and that sort
of thing. But there is a line there you can go,
and there the line that you can't cross, and he's
crossed that line and the university need to recognize that
and deal with it appropriately.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Paris, should we stay or shall we go?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
So fit said our age and Joy. As you remember
late June and the vote from our own as the
council was to stay in at the time. Our focus
is not really around the Paris Agreement. Our focus is
around what our politicians and what our politicians are putting
in place, sorry, within that agreement, and that's why it's
been a bit of an interesting discussion this week. I think,
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with the Act coming out to make their announcement, all
well and good, and we can see where they're coming from,
and we're hearing it from our farmers too. We understand that.
But also there's plenty that they can be doing right
now to be solving these issues. And the symbol kind
of bumpers to sick a remark of pulling out of
Paris is kind of that's the simple answer, or the
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kind of the simplified answer. The real answer is to
get on and change some of these policies that we've
been talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Just to finish on house. Carvin going, you must be
nearly finished on your Tasman farm.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, well we I think I've told you before. We
do all bulls. We don't do any ai and man
to those guys, they must work all right, because we
just calved down eighty four percent. I think I'm at
about ninety two percent now in just over three weeks.
So it all happens pretty quick. Here and our body's
feeling it. You know, I'm post forty now and you
feel a little bit more then we get this.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So well, you're more like an old bull than a
young bull. Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Plenty of bulls dolling this guy, I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Jamien, Hey, thanks very much for your time from Federated Farmers.
I know you're a busy man. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
Oh yeah, and let's bring some Canterbury wingers back onto
the back onto the bench of the All Black. What's
worts Rico?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Still doing the come on?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Who do you want? On? Do you want sevu rees on?
I reckon, even though he's maligned, much maligned, I reckon
he's going to come right. He's strong, apparently still the
fastest or maybe Leroy Carter is the fastest All Black.
I don't know. I'm just hoping. I'm just this is
just going to be the best game or the second
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best game of the century behind the Stag's defense against
Canterbury on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Wow, the Stags lose the Canabary. The Marcos get it
the following week and I'm pretty excited about that. And
don't get Andy Thompson stars out there.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You can't use that word on those two words. Andy
who Andy who? Anyhow, I gotta go, Thanks for your time. Thanks,
Here we go Yellow Wayne Langford. Yes, Thompson would be
absolutely unbearable if Tasman was to get the shield up.
Up next, the edited the Farmer. The Farmer Panel Canterbury
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versus Southland Craig Hickman and Dean Rabbage. Up next, Welcome
back to the Country, twelve thirty. Today's Farmer Panel, and
it's a good one. It's Canterbury versus Southland Craig Dairyman
(19:30):
Hickman and mid Canterbury Dean Rabbage out of Southland. Dean's
a former Xander McDonald Award winner. Dairy man. What have
you ever won.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Your praise?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, other than my praise that's not worth much. But
have you won any farming titles?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No, I've never never entered the farming awards. Also, no,
I am just a lowly, lonely farmer flogging away for
and not for the glory.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Mind you of a lot most of the farmers I know.
You probably have one of the highest profiles on social media.
You certainly have an impact there.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, not always a good thing. But I have a
lookout for my next column coming out on Fonte dovestment
needs to be in the papers in the next couple
of day.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'll look forward to that. What is your view on it?
Are you going to let us in on it?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Absolutely? I think it's a consolidation of a strategy that
started with the sail of tip Top and it's the
way to go. I'll be both in yes for it.
It's all about putting more money in farm and pockets,
no matter what the payout. It's about dividends, not farmgate mills.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Right, Dean Rabbits jewins us out of South and you've
been jumping up and down about carbon farming, Dean, But
I said, you're a sheepment beef farmer and I thought
you had a dairy operation. Someone's texted in and said,
I think Dean has sold us dairy farm. Are you
no longer a Kalkockie Dean?
Speaker 7 (20:53):
You know justin Jamie.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
We took the whole biastraw hats in winter attitude and
I think it was probably the only producer in the
country that sold a dairy farm and bought another sheep
and beef farm. At the end of the season. So yeah,
we're just purely sheep and beef.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Now why I would have thought dairy might have paid better.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Like it was just the size of the you know,
there's only one hundred and eighty cows, and just with
inflationary pressures and regulation compliance costs sort of really needed
to be owner operated and mere passion. There's really cheap
beef farming. So we capitalized on the positivity in the
sector at the moment and put on the market and
it's sold. So now we're really heady with their their decisions.
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So yeah, as we were at down in.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
South and you've been leading the charge against a couple
of things, wind farms and carbon farming. What's wrong with
the wind farm?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Oh, it's just an efficient way of producing aultricity and
they just want to increase production by just increasing inefficiencies.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really, and it's got it's got to be. It's got
to be better for the planet than burning coal? Is it?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
How they made? Where's all that come from? It's all
coming from China, but absolutely devastating to a natural landscape.
We've gone down here in Southend and we keep going
on about how important tourism is and said, I'll wipe
that off the face of the province. So yeah, Nah's
is one of those things. Is a pretty angry community
done here on a couple of things, both wind farms
and carbon forestry at the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Are you seeing an abatement or reduction in the what's
going into carbon farming?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
No, unfortunately not. We've sort of had an acceleration of
it since the government's big announcement on the fourth of December.
I was seeing some absolutely fantastic, stunning farms going into
trees and it's just it's quite confronting when you drive
around the province and see see what's been planted in
trees now.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Craig Hickman up in mid Canterbury, well up from where
I am and where dinas. Is carbon farming an issue
in mid Canterbury? Your land's too valuable to plant trees on.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Isn't it.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
No, they're planting solar pedils instead being the big going on,
but not too much in the way.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And do you think solar panels are a blight on
the landscape like Dean thinks the turbines are.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I think we've probably a better ways we could do them.
I didn't see a recent proposal where solar panels to
be put on every public building like schools, where people
are there during the day using the using the power.
I've got them on my cow shed. Now I'll be
mean to see how much that produces the power bill
by But I guess I'm a bit of a bit
of a way through my least block, my lease block.
(23:31):
I only got that that was going to turn into
a into a into a sole apartment. I'm glad it didn't.
So yeah, I'm a bit conflicted on that. I think
there's there's better uses for the land. But you could
raise the panels and grave under them, then dull use
is probably a good way to go.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, okay, just just a rapid guys, because I'm short
of time. Surely, being based in mid Canterbury, you're not
a Canterbury support You've got to support mid Canterbury in
the heartland, in the Heartland Cup or the heartlands, the
Lahore and Meads Cup. Should I say, why are you
cheering on the Cantabs against the Stags. Everyone wants the
Stags to one.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh, everybody everybody's out of Canterbury wants the Stags, and.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
North and North of Canterbury as well.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Probably north of Canterbury as well. But look, thank you
for keeping the field warm for a week for us.
We do appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Dean, you'll be going down there or are you going
to be flat out on the lambing beat.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
We've got tickets purchase, so we're going to try and
with it depending. Yeah. Look, I think it's just going
to this game on said it is going to be
huge really as they're not Canterbury going to kept to
come down not only played twenty three Stags players, but
they're going to have to front in front of ten
thousand people that are to be parking in the whole province.
So I'm hoping that Canterbury's going to go along Craig's
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lines and not win anything in their life and go
home cross between your legs.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh that's a good burn, roddyo. Lad's got to go there.
We go the farmer panel, Craig, Dairyman, Hickman and mid
Canterbury and Dean Ravage down in south and we're going
to tell make a break on the other side of it,
Michelle with the latest and rural news. I think we've
got some meat stories are coming up. We're going to
try and track down Chris Russell and John McAvennie. Before
the end of the hour, girls.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Taz speak Son kiskin so high.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh, welcome back to the country. It is twenty away
from one fifteen years ago today, the first of the
christ Church earthquakes. It's transformed that city. You wouldn't know it.
I can still keep getting lost when I go to
the middle of it. It's changed since I was there
Michelle at Lincoln College way back in nineteen eighty two.
(25:48):
Never mind, the world does change. Here's rural News.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
What the Country's world news with culp Getet, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn Bower Bread. Visit steel Ford dot
co dot z for your local stocks.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
And I do have a bit a story about meat here,
a positive one. But first of all, we heard Wayne
mentioned about doctor Joy's comments and that apology supposedly has
actually been reported that on Wednesday afternoon, Joy told Stuff
the comments were tongue in cheek, but he didn't believe
he'd gone too far and was comfortable with the way
he'd phrased it. However, by this morning, he had taken
(26:21):
to LinkedIn to apologize and said his comments were inappropriate
and did not align with his views or those of
the university and realized they were out of order.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
So a little bit slapped over the risk with the
wet bus ticket from Victoria University. Just a dumb comment exactly.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
But on to positive things, Jamie, positive things. Strong European
demand for sheep meat helped lift New Zealand's red meat
exports to eight hundred and sixty four million dollars in July,
marking another positive month for the sector. Meat Industry Association
CEO Sumacarapeev says that EU was a standout market, with
the volume of sheep meat largely unchanged from last July
(26:57):
at three nine hundred and fifty seven tons, but the
value grew by thirty four percent, making it the largest
sheep meat market by value for the month. Export values
will higher across major markets compared to last July, and
you can find more about that at the country dot
co dot Inze.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, on the text line, you're not impressed by doctor
Mike joy I may have to pre read these and
edit them. Some of them are uncharitable.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
His sport sport with anavco Kiwi to the bone since
nineteen oh four.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Well, if you've just joined us, we talked about the
All Black team name for the most important rugby game
since the World Cup final and twenty twenty three. Wallace
Attiti will start at number eight for the All Blacks
against South Africa Eden Park on Saturday, sliding Simon Parker
to six for a second test. Rdi Savella starts his
one hundredth on the open side. Halfback Cortez Ratama has
(27:50):
been ruled out with the rib injury. Finley Christie will start.
Kyle Preston probable debut off the bench. Amoni Naroa replaces
Sevu Reese on the right way. I think that's a
good move. Well fit again, prop Tyrel Lomax joins to
Mighty Williams on our power bench. That is your sports news.
Up next, we're heading. We're going to go and see
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if we can find Tom Phillips. John mcavenie is the
chief executive of Steele Fort. He's also a white Tomo
sheep and beef farmer. He's been on the acquisition trail.
What is it about you Dalmatians? John? I'm going to
come back to that one, but I want to start
with what's happening on the farm at the moment. Tom Phillips,
(28:34):
the Marakopa fugitive was spotted on your farm anymore sightings?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
No, I can tell you now, Jamie. He has employed
for the position of farm manager anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So I didn't realize it was vacant, No, no, distant.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
But yeah, apparently you used to do quite a lot
of fencing on tim so he knows the area quite well.
So it's probably where my green kids saw him up
there six months ago. Yeah, No, he hasn't been spotted since.
But he's he's a bit of a strange dude, isn't he.
He's he just seems to evade a void and lose
(29:10):
himself in the forest here. And the police just I
don't know whether they want to catch him or well
they just can't catch him. But you know, I just
feel for those little kids. You know, they're going to
be hard for them to assimilate back to the normal
way of life, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Absolutely What are you going to do with all your money? John?
Or you got a bit through your business career, You've
worked hard to earn that. I've got no gripes with that.
But all the money you're making on your farm at
the moment you sold yo Wiena carbs recently for a fortune.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, well, we've got nearly sixteen hundred bucks for those,
and we you know, I was going to hang on
to them until the spring. And I don't know whether
I made the right decision or not, but the fact
is we just we ever it's nearly forteen hundred bucks
for them, and got rid of that sort of three
hundred and fifty odds that we had. And I've got
the money in the bank now. But don't worry. You know,
Brent's out the year and he's pretty good at spending it.
(29:58):
Or we're going to cut seven hundred t on the
super on and we're going to spray one hundred he
dares of gorse, and you know there's always fencing and whatever.
It's expensive to run a property these days. Don't worry.
We'll get through that money pretty quickly, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, the lamb is looking really positive for the season.
It's good. It's overdue for the sheep flowers.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Yeah, no, it's very very good. I can only hope
that the pricing just hangs on. You know, I've seen
this happen before, Jamie in the past, where you know,
the commodity market. You know, they predict it's going to
be good for this year and next year and five
years out, and you know there's building stocks in America
and whatever, and then two years later being she crashes
(30:37):
her on your knees again. So I'm I'm always a
bit cautious about what happens in the future.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Your name's John McAvennie. But mcavenny is like an anglicized name,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Well, well, my father is from Croatia, from Courtila, which
is n Island and the Adriatic and where our original
name was Markovinna mak O v i n As. So
it's a bit like the Tellies with their originally televised apparently,
so they've sort of anglicized these. But I don't know why,
you know, my full fathers and whatever did that sort
(31:10):
of thing. But yeah, that's we're exactly. You know, we're
from the same area. And I see they've had a
couple of acquisitions this year, and and we've done, in
our own small way, a couple ourselves as well.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, you sell lawnmowers, but you've got the franchise now
for Victor Lawnmowers. You described Victor as the mass Sport
of Australia. Remember those old TV ads years ago for
the Victor lawnmowers.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Is if I'm the douda, So is this a big deal? Well,
let's put it this way. Victor, our own were owned
by Britain Stratton as long in the short of it
As has now been bought by a company called p
LP or Gripski's in Brisbane. They've acquired just the Victor
brand and the Valveline brand, which is an old brand
(31:58):
out of out of the United States, and they've asked
us to handle the Victor and valvele end products for
New Zealand. It was only announced yesterday and it will
take places from the fourteenth of this month.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, good on you. You meant to be slowing down
in your senior year as John, you're going harder. Hey,
just a yes or no to finish because I'm out
of time out of Paris, Yes or no out? Good
on you, hey, John Becka any thank you very much
for your time. Good luck with your new venture with
the Victor mowers.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, nice to talk.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Ten away from one. Some of your feedback on the
first christ Church earthquake texta Rights fifteen years ago. The
farm I was managing was at the epicenter of the
earthquake and I remember out in the Darfield area got
particularly badly hit. The text to rights. As a Fonterra supplier,
they bent over backwards to help us from delivering fresh
water so we could milk due to the earth moving
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three meters to the west and one meter up and
then waiting until we'd finished milking to take our milk
straight away. They were the unsung heroes for our farm.
So there's a grateful Fonterra farmer supplier reminiscing on from
that big earthquake which really did affect a lot of
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farms in Canterbury this day. Back in twenty ten, up
next to our Ossie correspondent, Chris Russell, well, he's our
guy in Sydney. His name was Chris Russell, long standing
(33:34):
Australian correspondent. We had two former Prime ministers, Chris Russell
in Beijing, some would say, cuddling up to the Chinese.
Two of our better prime ministers too, I might add
Helen Clark and John Key. Did Australia send anyone over there?
Speaker 10 (33:49):
We said nobody, And our bachelor in fact wasn't there either.
But however, we did end up with two people who
were invited. Bob Carr, former Preirie of New South Wales,
former Foreign Affairs minister in the federal government. He went
over but at the last moment said he was never
intending to go to the parade. He went and talked
to a conference instead. But predictably, probably Dan Andrews, the
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premiere of Victoria during the COVID period, was invited and
proudly on display there and proudly meeting President she having
tried to introduce the Belt and Road program into Victoria.
There are people over here calling him to be charged
with treason, you know, because he's been he's so disloyal
to our rights here. But it was a scary parade
(34:36):
really when you look at that, Jamie. When I was
listening to an analysis by some of our arms experts
this morning, they had hypersonic missiles there, which are probably
ahead of where the US is at. They had underwater drones.
They now have nuclear tip missiles which can be launched
from an air capability. The only area that they analyzed
(34:58):
that probably America was still ahead was in the aircraft
and air power, so that's obviously critical, but I think
we're in for some scary times, and especially when you
hear Putin, Kim and She on hot mic discussing immortality
and how with modern technology they're hoping they could live
to one hundred and fifty God God help us.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yes, And of course you've got that version of she
Putin and Mody cuddling up and holding hands together. A
bit worrying for the West.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
I think it is very worrying, and I think that
a lot of people would see the fact that she
has got really totally transparent ambitions for being the superpower.
Speaker 10 (35:41):
Certainly, since nineteen forty five, the West has dominated world
power and the world.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
Balance of power.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
But I'm not sure we're still in that happy position,
I think where he's spending a disproportionate amount of money
certainly not limited by a percentage of GDP on defense.
When you look at the answers they're making, both technologically
and just in sheer numbers. And what's scary is the robotic.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Look of those armies.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
I mean, every army wants their soldiers to be more
or less robotic and automatic and responding.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
To the call the fight.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
But by gee, they even had robotic dogs actually robotic
dogs on display there. Well, I say most of the
people in the army looked as tho. They are pretty
robotic too in the parade.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
On the home front, I see that primary sector production
in Australia has cracked the one hundred billion dollar mark.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
Well, it's forecasts too, Jamie, for the financial year which
ends June thirtieth next year, and that is really in
completion of the target that they set themselves back four
five years ago. But certainly it's amazing how we've continued
to grow. We're now also planning to be able to
(36:54):
have enough food produced Australia to feed one hundred million people,
so we've got twenty seven million of our own and
the rest of the world's population also benefiting. So clearly
Australia is making a significant contribution to food security and
we're on forecast, of course, helped by some pretty favorable
seasons in most of the big crop producing areas, even
(37:16):
if at the last minute over in.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
The West, Jamie, always good to catch up on the country.
Thanks for your time, no worry, Jamie. Good on you
Chris are wrapping the country with some of your feedback.
A text from West Otago says as a former selfland
b fallback, How would you have difused those Pollard bombs?
How would you defuse them? Answer text? I probably wouldn't.
(37:39):
If I had my old Riversdale mate Gab nape you
with me, I'd just say yours Gab like I used
to back in the days. Those were the days. Muzz
a bitter and twisted man from Hawk's Bay rights Jamie,
you twat did you just compare your rugby ability at
the same level for Beaver? That's like comparing you to
Mike Hosking. Thanks for the voter confidence and have I
(38:03):
got time for one more year?
Speaker 11 (38:04):
So I have?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
He's right about the wind millsdean ravage? Would you build?
Would you have built Manapori if it had a twenty
year lifespan and only work twenty seven percent of the time?
So that's your feedback. We will catch you back tomorrow.
Go the Stags.
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Gay, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie MacKaye.
The show's brought to you by Brandt. This is Katie Perry.
We were listening to Katy Perry on the wireless back
in twenty ten on this day, fifteen year anniversary of
the christ Church First christ Church earthquake. Who would ever forget?
Now they've named I need to get straight into this
(00:46):
because it wasn't on the midday news bulletin. They have
named the all Black side for the most important test
since the Rugby World Cup Final. And I'm going to
get some expert commentary from a blow who's a former
All Black broadcaster and the world's most famous white bater,
Steven Beaver Donald. But I'll just run through the team
(01:06):
before I go to Beaver. So as you'd expect a group.
Taylor Ewell up front, Scott Barrett Tupuvai moves into the
locking position. Simon Parker starts at number six. Ardie Savia
on the open side. Wallace Setiti's back at eight. Finley,
Christy Bowden, Barrett, Ricco Yuanni retains his place on the
left wing, Jordi Barrett and Billy Procton. No change in
(01:29):
the midfield. Amoni Naruwa comes on to the right wing,
Will Jordan at fullback. What I do like about this
squad is that we do have a power forward bench
to take on the Springbok bomb squad. Tucky Ajo, Tamighty Williams,
Lomax Holland and Duplessy Carrefi. In the backs, Kyle Preston
(01:49):
will make his debut. Quinta pire for a bit of
physicality in Damien Mackenzie right, he's chomping at the bit
to get on the radio because he's riding around in
Auckland somewhere in his high luks gr sport from Toyota
the Monica Toyota brand Ambassador Steven Beaver Donald, what did
you make of that team?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, it's not one that I don't think many people
would have got leading into twelve o'clock today, But I
like it. I'm excited by it. It's you said, it's
got a bit of everythinct. I like the Ford pack,
I like what they've got on the bench too. So no, overall,
I think it's a team we can all get excited about.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
As far as said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
They goes, do you think Razor was ever tempted to
go with a six two split on the bench and
diffuse the bomb squad that way because it looks like
the South Africans will do that.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Now look as far as and this is my personal
I think so much is made of a bomb squad,
you know, And yep, it works for them, but there's
no reason for us to go down that route. You've
got to appreciate the style of football they play, and
you've also got appreciate the athletes they've got and of
the athletes we've got. And if you start telling me
(03:04):
the guys like Scott Bair at Artie Savia whilst it's
feeding in there can't go eighty minutes of high level,
then I think you're an idiot, you know. So to
be honest of your If im squad works for them,
we don't need it. I think it would be a
waste of our athletes to start going six to two
just because you know, there's this thing that works for
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South Africa. We've got great backs that we have the
ability to add impact with and versatility and that might
be something that we have over the rest of the world.
So but David, we start doing six twos and seven ones, Jamie,
I would have big concern.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, good on you, Beav. I've spoken like a true back.
We've got we have got power on the bench. When
you consider to Mighty Williams and Tyrol Lomax, we were
effectively our first choice props. So we're going to lose
nothing by bringing them on. But to be fair to
Ethan to grout good South London and Fletch and you'll
that've been very good.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh yeah, losing and I think again, going back to
your bomb squad coment, I think when you look at
impact off the bench, you don't necessarily have to think
the greatest athletes or what have you. You can think
as South Africa, it's scrum penalties and what's a drop's
job really in those final twenty minutes of big Test
matches is to do his job. It's not to run
(04:20):
eighty meters. But I guess in the likes of TOSSI,
we're a little bit blessed with guys who can do both.
But yeah, what a luxury to have Lomax coming back
and sitting on the bench. And as you've mentioned Nell
and the grout, I think the group's had a you know,
almost a second coming. I know his career is probably
young by the time it'll be all wrapped up, but
(04:42):
he's he's kicked again, which is great to see. Obviously
a bit of a setback last year, which you know
he probably didn't foresee coming. But he's kicked again. He's
looking great. And Yule who's had a wonderful super rugby
and now carrying on it at international.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, so ken Rico Yoani Amoni now right, and will
Jordan diffuse what's coming their way? I either Pollard bombs.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Of course they can't. But I mean again, I think
what's been lost a little bit is there's so much
more to I guess taking high walls than just to
catch I mean at the end of the day, but
catches these days if you don't do your job up front,
which is kick pressure, which is negating chases. Legally, it
(05:28):
becomes a fifty to fifty contest. And it's called a
fifty to fifty contest because it can go either way.
So I've found a little bit. I just got a
little bit tithesome of August carry on that it's just
about to catch. It's not just about to catch when
it comes to the high ball, and I mean an isolation. Rico, well,
Jordan and the Morning Atawa can easily do that. But
(05:51):
it's gonna be whether or not they're going to be
up in the air if South Africa is also challenging.
And then as I say it, then it becomes a
hand here or by the idea and cage it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So it's a fourteen thing now on Jamie okay, Rico
u Arnie. Look, he's copped a lot of criticism back
in the day when he first started in the All Blacks.
I thought he was going to be our greatest wing
ever he's taking his time to transition back to the wing.
But he's a berg strong, powerful man. I reckon he's due.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yes absolutely. Rico's as often I guess, a bit of
a whipping boy. And you know where he's playing. Jamie.
He's in the top seven backs in this country without
a shadow of a doubt, so I'm not surprised that
he's obviously starting. I was wondering whether before the pressure
(06:46):
on in this game, they would be tended to put
him back at thirteen because he's defensively, very sound, very quick.
I guess laterally, which is going to have to be
at times on Saturday night with Chesley Colby in the
line going around the back of plays, But uh, he
will be there. And you say he probably is due
(07:06):
one of those special performances. And you know he's somebody
who when you look at him, and you know even
historically through Super Rugby, he doesn't shy away from things,
you know, and it's a massive challenge. And I guess
you know what you're going to get from Rico. He's
not gonna he's not going to die wondering.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
As he said that night.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I introduced you as a former all black broadcaster, world's
most famous white Beata and of course the Monaco Toyota
Group Ambassador, which includes your beloved Poka Coe Branch.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Absolutely, I've gone on board pre recently with the with
the Manica Toyota Group. As you mentioned, they have they
have four stores in the in the southern part of Auckland,
and the branch has had a major major facelift and
as you shifted, so it's now right next to another
beloved part of my life and child and pocker Co Stadium.
(08:01):
So great to be on board with them, are you
funny us?
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Jamie?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I got thrown a little bit of the hospital pass
is my first gig for her crew, and they had
the opening the new site and pucker Co. So that
was a that was an experience to start with, but
prevent it. Still here is their ambassador, Jamie, so must
have done something right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, as I said earlier, you're driving the top of
the line Sport high lucks, you see, because you and
I have got a bit in common, Beaver. We're both
great former rugby players. Some people would argue otherwise. In
my case, we're both Toyota brand ambassadors. And I'm a
big and I'm a big disciple of the food chain
in life, and I you know, and I quote the
(08:45):
food chain all the time here at work. But even
when it comes to Toyota brand ambassadors, some people are
not All animals are equal. I mean, I get the
SR five Cruiser, which is fantastic, You're one step up
with the g Sport. But you realize Richie gets a cruiser.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean where does Richie live now? He's
probably in the middle of Auckland, does he or he's
in Monica's that's right, that's right, Well, depending on how
much off off off roading he does with the family. Now,
I'm not sure he needed the g I Highluks, and
I'm lucky enough to have so log I'm very grateful
(09:22):
for mine. I guess I got it. I got a
little bit wet. We're not too weir, I must say.
On Tuesday and day putting in the boat for the
star of the white bating season up here, and on
first day, you know what it's like, Jamie. You always
throw back your catch on the first day, which is
good because there's only one white bait. But second day
round not only did the white bait come, but I'm
(09:45):
strong believe it the gr highlights help me get them.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Good on you. You're a great brand ambassador. I'll let
you carry on driving around Auckland and the traffic jams
and your gr highlu likes sport, Hey Beaver, thanks for
some of that some non and giving us some good
advice on that all black side which has just been named.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I can't wait, mate, and yeah, just can't wait to
see Eden Park on Saturday night with the whole country
and behind them. It's gonna it's gonna be special and.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Go the Stags. Eh, you're going to back the Stags.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh, I love the Stags. Look, they had to take
it off my former team. But like as I said
on our breakdown show, I love footy and we know
that they will be sold out Rugby Park there in
south And on Saturday afternoon, which will be the most
important game for people in the South And area on Saturday.
(10:37):
And they have the whole country behind them, I'd say,
apart from a very small part in christ Church, hope
they defend it.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well I've had the shield enough for long enough. Let's
get it. Good on you mate, Thank you very much
for joining us today. All right, Jamie, there we go.
Beaver Stephen Beaver Donald and the reason I ran with
this story to start with because of that all black
team for the most important test I think since definitely
(11:06):
since the Rugby World Cup Final just got named it
midday and it didn't make that midday sports bulletin or
not the one I was listening to. If you've just
joined us, really the changes are Tupuvia going into Locke
Simon Park at a six while as Stitis in at eight.
Finley Christie obviously has to front up at nine. Emoni
(11:28):
Naruwa replaces sever Reesho's out of the squad altogether. But
as I discussed with Beaver, we have got kind of
a bomb squad. Look to our Ford bench Takeyaho, Tamighty Williams,
Yrrel Lomax, Fabian Holland and Duplessy Carrefi, so we've got
plenty of power to take off the bench as well.
(11:49):
Saturday is going to be so good with the Stags
as the curtain raiser and then the All Blacks against
South Africa at Eden Park. We haven't lost there since
the French scored the try from the End of the
Earth way back in nineteen ninety four. Up next, he
was going to kick off the show, but we had
to bring Bee for Ford. Wayne Langford, president of Federated
(12:11):
Farmers now Federated Farmers, as we alluded to on yesterday,
show up in arms about these stupid comments made by
doctor Mike Joy and Paris Should we stay or should
we go? And how was this Nelson Tasman region recovering
from the winter floods Today's Farmer Farmer Panel Excuse me
as Craig Hickman and Dean Rabbage Canterbury in South and
(12:33):
there's a certain irony in that one's a dairy farmer,
one's a sheep and beef farmer, although I think he's
got a dairy farming operation as well as Dean Rabbage,
former Xander MacDonald Award winner, John mcavine, Chris Russell. It's
all on the show today. We'll be back with Wayne Langford.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well fine, jus.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
It is twenty three after twelve. You are with the country.
Katy Perry was big in September of twenty ten. Wayne Langford.
I'm segueing from Katy Perry to Wayne Langthord as the
president of Federated Farmers very shortly Mike Joy and Paris.
Should we stay or should we go? But Yolo, do
(13:24):
you remember where you were and what you were doing
on this day fifteen years ago when that earthquake struck
in the middle of the night, I think four o'clock
in the morning by memory.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
Yeah, yeah, Well, maybe I'm confusing it with the other
one I thought I was. I remember with one of
the Crosses quake. So we were sitting there waiting for
the Fonterra milk price to come out Fonterra expected to
make a big announcement, and then then one of my
brothers said, oh, hey, something's happen down a cross. It's
here and so. But that might have been the next one,
the one.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That was in the Yeah, that might have been the
big one. And what is that twenty second of February
twenty eleven. No one will forget that. They got off
really lightly in comparison, should I say? It was still devastating.
I actually remember doing a fundraiser at not a fundraiser,
a community picked me up event. I think it was
at Darfield with Dick Taylor and Richard Lowe. It was
(14:11):
very good to get up there, and Dick took me
around christ Church and showed me all the damage that
had been done. It was an eye opener, but nothing
like February twenty two.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I'm still disappointed that. And listen to my idea about
the Reds and Chushich. I thought it would have made
a beautiful dairy farm in there, as I clean that
a lot would be nice nice essig right, true, and
we could have done well in there.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, it might. It might have been a bit wet underfoot,
very low lying there, okay. Doctor Mike Joy a stupid
comment on LinkedIn bring back hanging for industry CEOs. He
was comparing the dairy industry to Mini Dean baby killers.
I mean the guys. He's a planker if you ask
me for saying that anyhow.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Yeah, absolutely kind of disgraceful and disgusting. Really, it is
not for we expect from someone you know in the
academia world or anyone in your own society really, and
it's incredibly disappointing. There's certain topics that I get a
lot of messages from farmers about and my phone was
blowing up yesterday afternoon when that one had come through.
And yeah, really disappointing, and figured feeds of seeking answers
(15:17):
from Victory University and what's going to happen there?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yes, I see your new dairy chair. Carl Dean has
written to Victoria University with the police. Explain if you
had a response yet.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Yeah, we have had a pretty watered down wet bus
ticket response saying oh you know, it's an apology here,
and there seems to be an apology written ironic considering
that doctor Mike Joy seemed to be doubling down on
those comments this morning in the paper, so I'm not
quite sure what's going on there. You know, I would
have thought that if a student of Victor Ernie had
(15:50):
had said that about a vice chancellor that, you know,
the chancellors needs to be hung. I don't think they'd
be around at lunchtime. And we're not quite understanding why
this double stand.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Again. Absolutely, and as I said on yesterday's show when
the story broke, imagine if Miles Hurrell or Mike de Latour,
if I'd said that about Mike Joy, it would be
an outcry.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Yeah, definitely, And this is nothing against the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
I understand that we've got different views and we'll see
the world in a different way, and I'll often talk
to Mike when we're at different conferences and that sort
of thing. But there is a line there you can go,
and there the line that you can't cross, and he's
crossed that line and the university need to recognize that
and deal with it appropriately.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Paris, should we stay or shall we go?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
So fit said our age and Joy. As you remember
late June and the vote from our own as the
council was to stay in at the time. Our focus
is not really around the Paris Agreement. Our focus is
around what our politicians and what our politicians are putting
in place, sorry, within that agreement, and that's why it's
been a bit of an interesting discussion this week. I think,
(16:53):
with the Act coming out to make their announcement, all
well and good, and we can see where they're coming from,
and we're hearing it from our farmers too. We understand that.
But also there's plenty that they can be doing right
now to be solving these issues. And the symbol kind
of bumpers to sick a remark of pulling out of
Paris is kind of that's the simple answer, or the
(17:13):
kind of the simplified answer. The real answer is to
get on and change some of these policies that we've
been talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Just to finish on house. Carvin going, you must be
nearly finished on your Tasman farm.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, well we I think I've told you before. We
do all bulls. We don't do any ai and man
to those guys, they must work all right, because we
just calved down eighty four percent. I think I'm at
about ninety two percent now in just over three weeks.
So it all happens pretty quick. Here and our body's
feeling it. You know, I'm post forty now and you
feel a little bit more then we get this.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So well, you're more like an old bull than a
young bull. Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Plenty of bulls dolling this guy, I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Jamien, Hey, thanks very much for your time from Federated Farmers.
I know you're a busy man. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
Oh yeah, and let's bring some Canterbury wingers back onto
the back onto the bench of the All Black. What's
worts Rico?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Still doing the come on?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Who do you want? On? Do you want sevu rees on?
I reckon, even though he's maligned, much maligned, I reckon
he's going to come right. He's strong, apparently still the
fastest or maybe Leroy Carter is the fastest All Black.
I don't know. I'm just hoping. I'm just this is
just going to be the best game or the second
(18:27):
best game of the century behind the Stag's defense against
Canterbury on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Wow, the Stags lose the Canabary. The Marcos get it
the following week and I'm pretty excited about that. And
don't get Andy Thompson stars out there.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You can't use that word on those two words. Andy
who Andy who? Anyhow, I gotta go, Thanks for your time. Thanks,
Here we go Yellow Wayne Langford. Yes, Thompson would be
absolutely unbearable if Tasman was to get the shield up.
Up next, the edited the Farmer. The Farmer Panel Canterbury
(19:06):
versus Southland Craig Hickman and Dean Rabbage. Up next, Welcome
back to the Country, twelve thirty. Today's Farmer Panel, and
it's a good one. It's Canterbury versus Southland Craig Dairyman
(19:30):
Hickman and mid Canterbury Dean Rabbage out of Southland. Dean's
a former Xander McDonald Award winner. Dairy man. What have
you ever won.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Your praise?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, other than my praise that's not worth much. But
have you won any farming titles?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No, I've never never entered the farming awards. Also, no,
I am just a lowly, lonely farmer flogging away for
and not for the glory.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Mind you of a lot most of the farmers I know.
You probably have one of the highest profiles on social media.
You certainly have an impact there.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, not always a good thing. But I have a
lookout for my next column coming out on Fonte dovestment
needs to be in the papers in the next couple
of day.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'll look forward to that. What is your view on it?
Are you going to let us in on it?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Absolutely? I think it's a consolidation of a strategy that
started with the sail of tip Top and it's the
way to go. I'll be both in yes for it.
It's all about putting more money in farm and pockets,
no matter what the payout. It's about dividends, not farmgate mills.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Right, Dean Rabbits jewins us out of South and you've
been jumping up and down about carbon farming, Dean, But
I said, you're a sheepment beef farmer and I thought
you had a dairy operation. Someone's texted in and said,
I think Dean has sold us dairy farm. Are you
no longer a Kalkockie Dean?
Speaker 7 (20:53):
You know justin Jamie.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
We took the whole biastraw hats in winter attitude and
I think it was probably the only producer in the
country that sold a dairy farm and bought another sheep
and beef farm. At the end of the season. So yeah,
we're just purely sheep and beef.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Now why I would have thought dairy might have paid better.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Like it was just the size of the you know,
there's only one hundred and eighty cows, and just with
inflationary pressures and regulation compliance costs sort of really needed
to be owner operated and mere passion. There's really cheap
beef farming. So we capitalized on the positivity in the
sector at the moment and put on the market and
it's sold. So now we're really heady with their their decisions.
(21:35):
So yeah, as we were at down in.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
South and you've been leading the charge against a couple
of things, wind farms and carbon farming. What's wrong with
the wind farm?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Oh, it's just an efficient way of producing aultricity and
they just want to increase production by just increasing inefficiencies.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really, and it's got it's got to be. It's got
to be better for the planet than burning coal? Is it?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
How they made? Where's all that come from? It's all
coming from China, but absolutely devastating to a natural landscape.
We've gone down here in Southend and we keep going
on about how important tourism is and said, I'll wipe
that off the face of the province. So yeah, Nah's
is one of those things. Is a pretty angry community
done here on a couple of things, both wind farms
and carbon forestry at the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Are you seeing an abatement or reduction in the what's
going into carbon farming?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
No, unfortunately not. We've sort of had an acceleration of
it since the government's big announcement on the fourth of December.
I was seeing some absolutely fantastic, stunning farms going into
trees and it's just it's quite confronting when you drive
around the province and see see what's been planted in
trees now.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Craig Hickman up in mid Canterbury, well up from where
I am and where dinas. Is carbon farming an issue
in mid Canterbury? Your land's too valuable to plant trees on.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Isn't it.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
No, they're planting solar pedils instead being the big going on,
but not too much in the way.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And do you think solar panels are a blight on
the landscape like Dean thinks the turbines are.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I think we've probably a better ways we could do them.
I didn't see a recent proposal where solar panels to
be put on every public building like schools, where people
are there during the day using the using the power.
I've got them on my cow shed. Now I'll be
mean to see how much that produces the power bill
by But I guess I'm a bit of a bit
of a way through my least block, my lease block.
(23:31):
I only got that that was going to turn into
a into a into a sole apartment. I'm glad it didn't.
So yeah, I'm a bit conflicted on that. I think
there's there's better uses for the land. But you could
raise the panels and grave under them, then dull use
is probably a good way to go.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, okay, just just a rapid guys, because I'm short
of time. Surely, being based in mid Canterbury, you're not
a Canterbury support You've got to support mid Canterbury in
the heartland, in the Heartland Cup or the heartlands, the
Lahore and Meads Cup. Should I say, why are you
cheering on the Cantabs against the Stags. Everyone wants the
Stags to one.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh, everybody everybody's out of Canterbury wants the Stags, and.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
North and North of Canterbury as well.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Probably north of Canterbury as well. But look, thank you
for keeping the field warm for a week for us.
We do appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Dean, you'll be going down there or are you going
to be flat out on the lambing beat.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
We've got tickets purchase, so we're going to try and
with it depending. Yeah. Look, I think it's just going
to this game on said it is going to be
huge really as they're not Canterbury going to kept to
come down not only played twenty three Stags players, but
they're going to have to front in front of ten
thousand people that are to be parking in the whole province.
So I'm hoping that Canterbury's going to go along Craig's
(24:46):
lines and not win anything in their life and go
home cross between your legs.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh that's a good burn, roddyo. Lad's got to go there.
We go the farmer panel, Craig, Dairyman, Hickman and mid
Canterbury and Dean Ravage down in south and we're going
to tell make a break on the other side of it,
Michelle with the latest and rural news. I think we've
got some meat stories are coming up. We're going to
try and track down Chris Russell and John McAvennie. Before
the end of the hour, girls.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Taz speak Son kiskin so high.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh, welcome back to the country. It is twenty away
from one fifteen years ago today, the first of the
christ Church earthquakes. It's transformed that city. You wouldn't know it.
I can still keep getting lost when I go to
the middle of it. It's changed since I was there
Michelle at Lincoln College way back in nineteen eighty two.
(25:48):
Never mind, the world does change. Here's rural News.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
What the Country's world news with culp Getet, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn Bower Bread. Visit steel Ford dot
co dot z for your local stocks.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
And I do have a bit a story about meat here,
a positive one. But first of all, we heard Wayne
mentioned about doctor Joy's comments and that apology supposedly has
actually been reported that on Wednesday afternoon, Joy told Stuff
the comments were tongue in cheek, but he didn't believe
he'd gone too far and was comfortable with the way
he'd phrased it. However, by this morning, he had taken
(26:21):
to LinkedIn to apologize and said his comments were inappropriate
and did not align with his views or those of
the university and realized they were out of order.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
So a little bit slapped over the risk with the
wet bus ticket from Victoria University. Just a dumb comment exactly.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
But on to positive things, Jamie, positive things. Strong European
demand for sheep meat helped lift New Zealand's red meat
exports to eight hundred and sixty four million dollars in July,
marking another positive month for the sector. Meat Industry Association
CEO Sumacarapeev says that EU was a standout market, with
the volume of sheep meat largely unchanged from last July
(26:57):
at three nine hundred and fifty seven tons, but the
value grew by thirty four percent, making it the largest
sheep meat market by value for the month. Export values
will higher across major markets compared to last July, and
you can find more about that at the country dot
co dot Inze.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, on the text line, you're not impressed by doctor
Mike joy I may have to pre read these and
edit them. Some of them are uncharitable.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
His sport sport with anavco Kiwi to the bone since
nineteen oh four.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Well, if you've just joined us, we talked about the
All Black team name for the most important rugby game
since the World Cup final and twenty twenty three. Wallace
Attiti will start at number eight for the All Blacks
against South Africa Eden Park on Saturday, sliding Simon Parker
to six for a second test. Rdi Savella starts his
one hundredth on the open side. Halfback Cortez Ratama has
(27:50):
been ruled out with the rib injury. Finley Christie will start.
Kyle Preston probable debut off the bench. Amoni Naroa replaces
Sevu Reese on the right way. I think that's a
good move. Well fit again, prop Tyrel Lomax joins to
Mighty Williams on our power bench. That is your sports news.
Up next, we're heading. We're going to go and see
(28:13):
if we can find Tom Phillips. John mcavenie is the
chief executive of Steele Fort. He's also a white Tomo
sheep and beef farmer. He's been on the acquisition trail.
What is it about you Dalmatians? John? I'm going to
come back to that one, but I want to start
with what's happening on the farm at the moment. Tom Phillips,
(28:34):
the Marakopa fugitive was spotted on your farm anymore sightings?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
No, I can tell you now, Jamie. He has employed
for the position of farm manager anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So I didn't realize it was vacant, No, no, distant.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
But yeah, apparently you used to do quite a lot
of fencing on tim so he knows the area quite well.
So it's probably where my green kids saw him up
there six months ago. Yeah, No, he hasn't been spotted since.
But he's he's a bit of a strange dude, isn't he.
He's he just seems to evade a void and lose
(29:10):
himself in the forest here. And the police just I
don't know whether they want to catch him or well
they just can't catch him. But you know, I just
feel for those little kids. You know, they're going to
be hard for them to assimilate back to the normal
way of life, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Absolutely What are you going to do with all your money? John?
Or you got a bit through your business career, You've
worked hard to earn that. I've got no gripes with that.
But all the money you're making on your farm at
the moment you sold yo Wiena carbs recently for a fortune.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, well, we've got nearly sixteen hundred bucks for those,
and we you know, I was going to hang on
to them until the spring. And I don't know whether
I made the right decision or not, but the fact
is we just we ever it's nearly forteen hundred bucks
for them, and got rid of that sort of three
hundred and fifty odds that we had. And I've got
the money in the bank now. But don't worry. You know,
Brent's out the year and he's pretty good at spending it.
(29:58):
Or we're going to cut seven hundred t on the
super on and we're going to spray one hundred he
dares of gorse, and you know there's always fencing and whatever.
It's expensive to run a property these days. Don't worry.
We'll get through that money pretty quickly, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, the lamb is looking really positive for the season.
It's good. It's overdue for the sheep flowers.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Yeah, no, it's very very good. I can only hope
that the pricing just hangs on. You know, I've seen
this happen before, Jamie in the past, where you know,
the commodity market. You know, they predict it's going to
be good for this year and next year and five
years out, and you know there's building stocks in America
and whatever, and then two years later being she crashes
(30:37):
her on your knees again. So I'm I'm always a
bit cautious about what happens in the future.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Your name's John McAvennie. But mcavenny is like an anglicized name,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Well, well, my father is from Croatia, from Courtila, which
is n Island and the Adriatic and where our original
name was Markovinna mak O v i n As. So
it's a bit like the Tellies with their originally televised apparently,
so they've sort of anglicized these. But I don't know why,
you know, my full fathers and whatever did that sort
(31:10):
of thing. But yeah, that's we're exactly. You know, we're
from the same area. And I see they've had a
couple of acquisitions this year, and and we've done, in
our own small way, a couple ourselves as well.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, you sell lawnmowers, but you've got the franchise now
for Victor Lawnmowers. You described Victor as the mass Sport
of Australia. Remember those old TV ads years ago for
the Victor lawnmowers.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Is if I'm the douda, So is this a big deal? Well,
let's put it this way. Victor, our own were owned
by Britain Stratton as long in the short of it
As has now been bought by a company called p
LP or Gripski's in Brisbane. They've acquired just the Victor
brand and the Valveline brand, which is an old brand
(31:58):
out of out of the United States, and they've asked
us to handle the Victor and valvele end products for
New Zealand. It was only announced yesterday and it will
take places from the fourteenth of this month.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, good on you. You meant to be slowing down
in your senior year as John, you're going harder. Hey,
just a yes or no to finish because I'm out
of time out of Paris, Yes or no out? Good
on you, hey, John Becka any thank you very much
for your time. Good luck with your new venture with
the Victor mowers.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, nice to talk.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Ten away from one. Some of your feedback on the
first christ Church earthquake texta Rights fifteen years ago. The
farm I was managing was at the epicenter of the
earthquake and I remember out in the Darfield area got
particularly badly hit. The text to rights. As a Fonterra supplier,
they bent over backwards to help us from delivering fresh
water so we could milk due to the earth moving
(32:52):
three meters to the west and one meter up and
then waiting until we'd finished milking to take our milk
straight away. They were the unsung heroes for our farm.
So there's a grateful Fonterra farmer supplier reminiscing on from
that big earthquake which really did affect a lot of
(33:13):
farms in Canterbury this day. Back in twenty ten, up
next to our Ossie correspondent, Chris Russell, well, he's our
guy in Sydney. His name was Chris Russell, long standing
(33:34):
Australian correspondent. We had two former Prime ministers, Chris Russell
in Beijing, some would say, cuddling up to the Chinese.
Two of our better prime ministers too, I might add
Helen Clark and John Key. Did Australia send anyone over there?
Speaker 10 (33:49):
We said nobody, And our bachelor in fact wasn't there either.
But however, we did end up with two people who
were invited. Bob Carr, former Preirie of New South Wales,
former Foreign Affairs minister in the federal government. He went
over but at the last moment said he was never
intending to go to the parade. He went and talked
to a conference instead. But predictably, probably Dan Andrews, the
(34:14):
premiere of Victoria during the COVID period, was invited and
proudly on display there and proudly meeting President she having
tried to introduce the Belt and Road program into Victoria.
There are people over here calling him to be charged
with treason, you know, because he's been he's so disloyal
to our rights here. But it was a scary parade
(34:36):
really when you look at that, Jamie. When I was
listening to an analysis by some of our arms experts
this morning, they had hypersonic missiles there, which are probably
ahead of where the US is at. They had underwater drones.
They now have nuclear tip missiles which can be launched
from an air capability. The only area that they analyzed
(34:58):
that probably America was still ahead was in the aircraft
and air power, so that's obviously critical, but I think
we're in for some scary times, and especially when you
hear Putin, Kim and She on hot mic discussing immortality
and how with modern technology they're hoping they could live
to one hundred and fifty God God help us.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yes, And of course you've got that version of she
Putin and Mody cuddling up and holding hands together. A
bit worrying for the West.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
I think it is very worrying, and I think that
a lot of people would see the fact that she
has got really totally transparent ambitions for being the superpower.
Speaker 10 (35:41):
Certainly, since nineteen forty five, the West has dominated world
power and the world.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
Balance of power.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
But I'm not sure we're still in that happy position,
I think where he's spending a disproportionate amount of money
certainly not limited by a percentage of GDP on defense.
When you look at the answers they're making, both technologically
and just in sheer numbers. And what's scary is the robotic.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Look of those armies.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
I mean, every army wants their soldiers to be more
or less robotic and automatic and responding.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
To the call the fight.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
But by gee, they even had robotic dogs actually robotic
dogs on display there. Well, I say most of the
people in the army looked as tho. They are pretty
robotic too in the parade.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
On the home front, I see that primary sector production
in Australia has cracked the one hundred billion dollar mark.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
Well, it's forecasts too, Jamie, for the financial year which
ends June thirtieth next year, and that is really in
completion of the target that they set themselves back four
five years ago. But certainly it's amazing how we've continued
to grow. We're now also planning to be able to
(36:54):
have enough food produced Australia to feed one hundred million people,
so we've got twenty seven million of our own and
the rest of the world's population also benefiting. So clearly
Australia is making a significant contribution to food security and
we're on forecast, of course, helped by some pretty favorable
seasons in most of the big crop producing areas, even
(37:16):
if at the last minute over in.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
The West, Jamie, always good to catch up on the country.
Thanks for your time, no worry, Jamie. Good on you
Chris are wrapping the country with some of your feedback.
A text from West Otago says as a former selfland
b fallback, How would you have difused those Pollard bombs?
How would you defuse them? Answer text? I probably wouldn't.
(37:39):
If I had my old Riversdale mate Gab nape you
with me, I'd just say yours Gab like I used
to back in the days. Those were the days. Muzz
a bitter and twisted man from Hawk's Bay rights Jamie,
you twat did you just compare your rugby ability at
the same level for Beaver? That's like comparing you to
Mike Hosking. Thanks for the voter confidence and have I
(38:03):
got time for one more year?
Speaker 11 (38:04):
So I have?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
He's right about the wind millsdean ravage? Would you build?
Would you have built Manapori if it had a twenty
year lifespan and only work twenty seven percent of the time?
So that's your feedback. We will catch you back tomorrow.
Go the Stags.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Sunk catch all the latest from the land. It's the
Country podcast with Jamie McGue. Thanks to Brent, your specialist
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