The Country Full Show: Tuesday, November 12, 2024

Jamie Mackay talks to Sir David Carter, Damien O'Connor, Toby Williams, and Rhys Roberts and Tim Dangen. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Good a New Zealand or Good Afternoon, New Zealand. I'm
Jamie McKay. This is The Country, brought to you by Brant.
I'm going to chat to the blow who's running brand
a bit later in the show out of Gisbon. This
is the Morris brothers, Ricky and m Ricky Morrison texts pistol.
I watched a program, a really cool program on New
Zealand Anthons. More about that later. Because I got a

(01:00):
full show, a full board, I better get stuck into it.
I'm going to kick it off with Sir David Carter,
who's now I think the chairman is that his correct title?
Or President of the Canterbury A and P Show formerly
the New Zealand Agricultural Show. I do get a wee
bit confused, but it's back and all its glory this week,
and of course we are kicking off Cup and Show
week with the New Zealand Trotten Cup at Addington this afternoon.

(01:23):
Damian O'Connor, why do I feel like I'm going to
have an argument with this man. I called him earlier
this morning to come on the show. He called me
a word that rhymes with dick and starts with the
PR So I suspect we'll trade a few blows on
that one. No bad pun intended. Toby Williams out of
Federated Farmers calling for the government to urgently distance itself

(01:45):
from a radical new pine planting proposal released by the
Climate Change Commission, and as Xander MacDonald Farmer Panel did,
a couple of brilliant young leaders on agriculture Rhees Roberts
and Tim dangeon. But let's head to christ Church Cup
and Show week David Carter, Sir David Carter, of course,
former Minister of Agriculture, former Speaker of the House, David

(02:06):
good Weather in christ Church, really looking forward to a
big week.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Looking great today Tuesday, of course hon at Addington or
what Addington as we call it, and then into the
show Thursday, Friday Saturday this year, so slight variation to
what we used to do in the past. It was
the previously Wednesday, Thursday Friday, so people need to be
aware it's Thursday, Friday and then a Saturday day that
through much focused on christ Church people coming to the show,

(02:33):
and of.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Course Friday is a public holiday can to be anniversary
Day in christ Church, so that's normally the day when
all the punters turn up.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think Friday will be busy. I think the fact
we've now spread it also and giving the option for Saturday,
I hope we get a great day Saturday and Thursday
of courses. The day would traditionally the farming community come
into christ Church. So we're looking forward to a really
good show. We've got our exhibit numbers up there where
they traditionally were, We've got goods trade sites there, We've

(03:03):
got lots of entertainment. I think it'll be a great show.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Now I get confused, David, and it's easy to get confused.
Are you the christ Church amp Show, the Canterbury amp
Show or the New Zealand Agricultural Show.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
The name of the association, the Agricultural and Partial Association,
has never changed. The previous board set it up as
the News Inland Agricultural Show. I'm not sure why this year,
because of the involvement with a professional event organizers helping
us with the show, we're calling it the christ Judge Show.

(03:36):
We'll review this as soon as the show's over. But
I want to get it back to being the Canterbury Show.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
The way well, i'll give you marketing one one. I
don't know who what scholar came up with the idea
of calling it the New Zealand Agricultural Show. It's not you, Cantabrian,
so that one eyed. Of course, you got to call
it the Canterbury Amp Show.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think we do. But we'll face that battle, well
expected to be a battle actually, but we'll face that
challenge once we've got this show out of the way.
The focus has been on getting the show twenty four
up and running. We've only had ninety days to do
it since I became chair of the board. We've done it,
but then focus has to move to sustainability of the
show into the future.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
It is still the biggest amp show in the country
and there are some crackers around the rest of the
country one Huppercluther's becoming huge, Gisben one of my favorites,
or Poverty Bay. Half the population goes through the gates
over a couple of days. But you are still the
mother of all Amp shows.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
And we've got to rebuild that reputation. It's been knocked
around lately. Of course, the previous board had actually decided
they wouldn't run a show this year. That's what wound
me up. The show's been running for one hundred and
sixty three years. It's been stopped by COVID on a
cup on one occasion, it's been stopped by World Wars.
There was no other reason that I could see why
it should be stopped. That's why I stepped into the brink.

(04:57):
And I've had a very good team working with me.
We've got it back hand running.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Good on you, and I'm heading up on Friday to
broadcast from the Toyota site. We might I'm sure I'll
catch you there, Sir David Carter. Hey, while I've got
you online, a couple of things. You're a very fit
and active man. You're still running or still got very
much hands on on your property on Banks Peninsula. Are
you starting to dry out a bit?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Typically starting to buy out? We're not bad here. We
got good range. I guess it was two and a
half three weeks ago in excess of sixty sixty five miles,
so it's green and often isn't green by the time
we get to the showtime. I've been around the farm today.
We're in good shape at the moment. North Canterbury's been
a lot tougher, and I understand some of their regents
up against the foothills of Canterbury have been dry. I've

(05:46):
all received rain lately, but the likes of North Canterbury
needs a lot more to get it through this summer.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Hey, put on your former politicians hat. What do you
make of the new leader of the free world and
what he might do and what it might mean for
New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think we've got to wait and see. He's a
great campaigner, as we've seen. He says a lot through
a campaign that may not necessarily come to fruition. The
thing that strikes me is they talk about us moving
away from China over recent years. I think that is
a market we need to be very much in tune with.
It's been our savior in the past. It is still

(06:21):
a huge market. We have a very good relationship with
China and I'd like to make sure that the Government
of the day continues to maintain that relationship because China
is going to be crucial.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Absolutely still is our biggest trading partner. Sir David Carter, Hey,
thanks for your time. Congratulations to you and the team
for getting off your backsides and reinvigorating the show which
wasn't going to happen. And I'm with you at such
an institution on the farming and social calendar for a
lot of people around the country. I'm glad you've got

(06:53):
it up and running again.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'll see you on find out the show.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Good on out there we go to David Carter, Yeah,
looking forward to it. Christ Church. I spent a year
there in the early eighties when I was a young
lad at Lincoln College as it was in those days.
Always got lost, especially coming home from the Carlton after
footy on a Saturday. But I still have trouble when
I get there, you know, and I got to know

(07:17):
the city reasonably well. I still get lost when I'm
in the middle of the city because a lot of
the old landmarks, obviously because of the earthquakes that were
there are no longer there. But if you haven't been
to christ Church in a few years or decades, it
really has transformed itself. It is truly a city of
the future.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
This is the musical theme today is Anthems. Ricky Morris
and Anne Morris, and I'm going to have to do
my homework. One of them has passed away. I think
it might be Enn Morris. Is it the guy who
was in Split Ends? Or did I get that wrong? Ricky?
I apologize. I'll do my homework on that. But they
wonderful talent, wonderful anthem kiwi anthem. We've got a few

(07:58):
of them for you today on the show. But up
next the gloves are going to come off. I've got
Damian O'Connor on the show, and I can tell you
from my conversations with him a weaver earlier this morning
when I was teeing up this interview. He's none too
pleased with me. I haven't chatted to this bloke for

(08:34):
a while, just as well because he's in a grumpy
mood of their conversation during the commercial breaks. Anything to
go by Damien O'Connor, labor trade spokesperson. You're getting stuck
into me for getting stuck into you for going on
a trade trip to the other side of the world
as an opposition MP.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
How are you, Jamien? Look with the irony of you
ringing to ask me about you know what I might
think of trumping international trade consequence that somewhat ironic when
they criticized me for going to find out on the ground.
So you know, I give feedback for what we'll said
on your show. And the idea that we should lock
up all in pas in New Zealand and then ask

(09:14):
them to have an opinion or develop policy for New
Zealand in the international world is completely naive. I think
more people should be getting overseas finding out what's going on,
what people are thinking in the complex world of geopolitical kind.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Of Bay Damien. That is the job of government. MPCE,
your as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike
overseas representing us at the moment because you're not in power.
It's a waste of taxpayers money. We would be but no, no,
hang on, we would be much better off to spend
the money we spent sending you to Europe, probably about
twenty grand on the health system. There you go, and

(09:48):
I'm not going to resolve from that opinion.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Well, can I say then leading up to the next election,
you'll be saying, well, what's labor going to do as
an alternative government? And so you expect us to have
thinking to develop the contacts and the policies in you know,
sitting down here in New Zealand, there is a need
for not just politicians, actually for many of us who

(10:11):
are involved in the agribusiness sector in particular, but in
the export sector to get out and be in touch
with the markets. Absolutely critical if we can think we
can sit back here and know what to do for
the good of our country in the next fifty years.
You know, without making those connections, you know, we are
naive and that's been a criticism of us time and

(10:32):
time again.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Damien, Damien, with all due respect, you'll be retired by
the time Labor gets back into power. Let's talk about
Trump and trade and mining. You were at McCrae's mind
yesterday in Otago. Have you turned into a disciple of
your old stablemate Shane Jones.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Well, you may not recall, Jamie, but actually is MP
for West Coast. When I was, it's a pretty lonely
kind of place advocating of mining. There weren't champions of
the National Party then either. It's actually a new revelation
to many. I have been advocating for the value of
mining good, you know, minding that is environmentally responsible because

(11:14):
actually there's a region we got left with the drinks
and the leftovers from many mining practices that were just outrageous.
We've got good mining practices now for the most part.
I've always been an advocate and actually it's taken me
a while to get down from the craze they had
Riff and you know, my brother worked from I've been
closely connected, but I've never visited the side.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, you might have been an advocate for mining. Your
government certainly was. They shut the whole industry down.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
They did not. Actually, there were more mines closed under
national in the early two thousands. We opened them up.
Just going you're getting as bad as Trump and the
risk just saying just lies. I mean, it's just crazy.
You have to stick to the truth, Jamie. It will
help your career.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, fake news, that's your claim. I'm sticking to my story.
Talk to me, and I gave you stick about going
offshore as an opposition MP complete waste of time. But
you've done and to be fair to you, and I've
been consistent on the Stamian O'Connor, you have done good
work for your country in the trade space. I want
you to give me your educated opinion on what you

(12:22):
think Trump's going to do.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
No person with a sane mind can tell you that.
Because he's completely erratic. He makes Actually he's proud of that.
The fact that people don't know what he's going to do,
and I think internationally that's what worries people most. There's
no predictability. He's said that a lot of things are
said on the hussings. No one knows whether they will

(12:48):
be implemented. If we end up with twenty or thirty
percent tariffs on goods, you know how they're going to
select which goods they are, what will be the purpose
of them. These are all questions that will be answered
in the next six months.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can Winston polar Rabbit from the hat hair? Because I
quoted on yesterday show Jack Time on Q and I
interviewing some high ranking official in Washington who said Winston
was very well respected and well connected in Washington circles.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
I mean, Winston's been around for a long time, and
there's some value and having old dogs like Winston and
myself to a lesser extent, going out reconnecting with those
people we've we've met over over many years, and keeping
the avenues of communication opening. He does a very good
job offshore with many people across Washington, both Democrats and Republicans.

(13:39):
You know, New Zealand probably doesn't feature high on the
areas of concern or consideration, but you know he'll do
his best to keep us in the thinking when it
comes to terraff and hopefully to exclude us where possible.
But we had been caught in the cross fire before
with Elman tariffs and tariffs on steel.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
So.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
You know we'll have to work really hard not to
be affected by some of the policies that will no
doubts he rolled out.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Hey, Damien O'Connor, have really enjoyed this chat, even though
you were completely wrong through most of it. It's always
good to have an argument with you on the country.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Keep it up well, good fuck, we're trying to straighten
out your misinformation, James. It'll be really stick to the facts.
You'll always do better.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I love your work, Damien. Oh well, agree to disagree,
Damien O'Connor. There Labour's trade spokesperson. Our text number is
five double O nine. We're going to give you a
chance shortly to win some of our farmers. Poor extra
crispy palel and those Heartland ships, solden, vinegar, green onion,
maple bacon, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. But tell us on five

(14:48):
double O nine, whether I'm right or Damien's right, it
was it a complete waste of time sending him as
an elderly opposition MP to Europe, as I said, twenty
grand and that's probably on the light side when our
health system is crying out for money. A complete waste
of time. I am not changing my mind on that one.
I will give the guy credit for doing good work

(15:11):
as our trade minister, more so than our ag minister,
I might add, as our trade minister with some of
the free trade deals he helps negotiate. Keen to get
your feedback. Here's some of your feedback coming in, Damian
O'Connor is, no, I can't say that one. Jamie Fonterra
Sharre is doing really well for sixty one the Fun
Shares five twenty seven from Jeff. Yeah, look, I think

(15:33):
Fonterra is on a bit of a roll at the moment,
and Robbie says, does O'Connor realize he's passed it up? Next?
Toby Williams two trips to Gisbon Or the East Coast
Poverty Bay region today Federated farmers calling for the government
to urgently distance itself from a radical new pine planting
proposal released by the Climate Change Commission late last week.

(15:57):
As we play Kiwi anthems doesn't get much better than
this one from the Mudd and Birds.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I say, I.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Want to leave you. It's not with Jaha Mamill. Truth
is that, like my own company.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Best the late Malcolm Black up front for the nether
World Dancing Toys, one of the great Kiwi anthems. Right,
Toby Williams is with us. He's Federated Farmer's share of
meat and wool. He was listening in with much interest
to what Damian O'Connor had to say. Who's right and
who's wrong. I say, it's a complete waste of time

(16:46):
sending Damien to the to Europe on a trade trip
on the taxpayer's bill, on a taxpayer's account. Should I say,
what say you, Toby Williams?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
We need to be looking at you layor party having
young Cann come through to drive the nation forward. And
you know we can respect what he had, what he
did one years in government, but it's time, you know,
for the old guard to move out and the new
guard to move in. You're not going to gain much,
you know, for him at his stage of his political life.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Mind you, he's ten years younger than Winston. Winston's still
doing the business for us, and he might get a
sweetheart deal in Washington.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, yeah, well he may well do that. And we
remember we've also had sweetheart details go deals go through
go to other former Avery MP's. This is pretty cushy
things around the world. So you know, maybe that's going
to be the case for Winnie. But you know, at
the moment, he seems to be doing a pretty reasonable job,
so we'll hold fire on that one.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, I certainly think he's doing a better job as
Foreign Minister than his predecessor, who wouldn't even get on
a plane. Don't start me on her, okay. Federated Farmers
is calling for the government to urgently distance itself from
a radical new pine planting proposal released by the Climate
Change Commission late last week. Is old whiskery road cars

(17:58):
still running that.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I don't think Rod's involved in it anymore, but I
mean it's gone backwards substantially. I mean, I think this
has got to be the most wokest most ridiculous organization
that our partisans have ever dreamed up.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, there's a fairly serious competition for being the most
wocal organization.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Oh well, it's just ridiculous, Jame. I mean, how do
we plant eight hundred and fifty thousand hectes of pine
trees on our land? You know that's five miles ware
stations that the entire East Coast plus probably all of
Hawk's Bay planted and pine treies just so we'd have
to pay some ridiculous international credits. It's just absolutely bonkers,
are you?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
And I know what the forestry guys would say, Dennis
Neilson on his mate. They would say, Toby Williams and co.
Are flogging a dead horse sheep and beef farming on
some of that country is no longer economic. We may
as or plant some trees, get some logs for export,
and get some carbon credits along the way and save
the planet.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Well it's a bandmate, And then pine trees aren't the
problem as the idea that we can plant eight hundred
fifty thousand hec bears and that's our job, Tidy. You know,
we've done our bits for climate change. Now we haven't
reduced our emissions at all. We're still driving petrol cars
around and we're still pumping it up in the atmosphere
with the end new ZA and flying the planes around
industrial steel and all these guys are still pumping up

(19:15):
the huge volumes of emissions.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Who don't have to change their behavior.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
We need to see some changes to the ets, so
we're actually reducing our emissions, not offsetting them.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Are you worried about the economics Toby of sheep and
beef farming, especially sheep farming on some of this marginal
hill country.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, we are, and people should have the option to
use forestry in those areas where it makes good productive
production forestry sense. You need to be able to get
the trees out. There needs to be a market for them.
We need to make sure we're not just exporting raw logs,
you know, over the wharfgate and gaining really nothing for it.
We need to be adding value to all this stuff.
At the moment, we've got so many hundreds of thousands
of forestry that that's all we do with. What's the

(19:56):
sense of planting another eight hundred and fifty thousand to
do exactly the same thing. What if China doesn't want them,
what if India doesn't want them. You know, it's a
one track thought process of less slams and pine trees
and will be dead to the time that you know,
New Zealand has to deal with the consequences of it
and it won't be our problem. That's that's the mindset
we get out of the climate.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, I know you're getting dry on the east coast
where you're based, Toby, and that's just the climate pattern
that is New Zealand. Some are dry on the east
coast of both islands. I worry about some of these
and inverted commace carb and forests that are kind of
unkempt or unkept that they're going to be a huge
fire and pest hazard in the future.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Oh, they certainly will. We've already got massive issues with
pests you know, coming through into farmland and and to
dockland out of these forests and causing huge you know
issues in terms of lambing losses and just plowing up
paddicts and you know eating grass would be better up
being productive and they're growing our export economy and the
fireside of things on the east coast here, we've got

(20:57):
significant amounts of forestry. We talk about when the fire hits,
not I for fire hits, it's when it hits. And
if we start planting up in higher regions, we're going
to end up like California, We've got eight hundred thousands
of forestry burning rather than growing.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Are you a bit more buoyant for prospects for sheep
farmers for the coming season? Toby wearing your hat as
meat and wool chair.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, I actually am. And that's sort of come about
in the last now only in the last month to
six weeks. I was pretty doom and gloom through the
winter about our prospects and we sort of pensed into
our budget of five dollars fifty January schedule price. It
looks like we're going to be significantly above that, which
is good, but it's not enough. We're seeing, you know, farmers,

(21:40):
and we saw the beef and land numbers from a
month or so ago that you know, we're really in
a liquidation state with our sheep industry at the moment,
and we need to have some really good conversations about
how do we reverse this, how do we reverse those fortunes,
how do we drive our economy forward? And you know,
This nation was built off the back of a sheep,
and while it's milked off the bottom of a cow.
Now we still need to be able to hold our

(22:01):
heads up high. Is that a cheaper still an important
part of our country and at the moment we're doing
a pretty poor job with that.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, you keep up the good fight on behalf of
Federated Farmers and I hope you get some rain on
the east coast of the North Island.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, so do we, Dami. I've just finished weaning, so
we've tightenly used up, hoping that as weekend get a
few showers and boost their grass along.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Good on you. There we go, Toby Williams Meat and
Wool chair for Federated Farmers. Some are your feedback coming
And Jamie Damien is so right you're critical when it suits. Well,
that's part of the job, Patrick. If he wasn't going
out to keep the contacts and bat for New Zealand
not a political party, you would be complaining the opposition

(22:41):
to sitting around doing nothing. Look, Patrick, I'm quite happy
at this stage of the electoral cycle for Chippy and
DayMen and whoever else to sit around and do nothing.
Maybe a year out from the election.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
But it's a.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Complete waste of time. We've got so many things in
this country, Patrick, it may have escaped, but we've got
so many things in this country that we need to
spend money on. Go to a public hospital, get in
a queue there. Look at kids going to school hungry,
and we're sending politicians to the other side of the world,
traveling business class, staying in fight star hotels to do

(23:16):
what That's what I say, Patrick, we'll fight up. Amen's
got me all fired up. Here's another one. Send Damien
to Gaza to talk to Hummas after what he publicly
said ree Gaza hum Us Israel conflict, he should get
a warm welcome from the terrorists. I didn't even mention
that I didn't go there on purpose. I think that

(23:38):
was a foot and mouth piece of oratory from Damien
on that occasion. Jamie, you're dead right. Damian O'Connor is
wasting taxpayers money. More of your feedback. We're going to
take a break on the other side of it. Michelle,
with the winners from yesterday for our farmer's poor bear
and the farmer's poor chips, will tell you how you
can win some today. Before the end of the hour.

(23:59):
It's the Xander McDonald panel, Rhys Roberts and Tim Dangent,
two dynamic young leaders in agriculture in this country. And
one more trip to Gisbon. Rick Lad what a great name,
matters Rick Lad from brand.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I don't know, I don't know Jack Games she had
away to the valley at that day.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
By oh, welcome back to the country. As far as
New Zealand anthems go, I don't get much better than
this one, do they? Jordan Luck and the Exponents or
were they the dance Exponents? I always get confused. They
change their name halfway through. And why does love do
this to me?

Speaker 8 (24:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
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(25:12):
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Speaker 7 (25:32):
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Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, I haven't seen a fun pack. I'm saying I
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Speaker 7 (25:39):
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Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I know that. I've literally only because when we
had the launch and well this time a week ago
at ed Emerson's I had to come back and interview
Miranda Devine in New York. So I was on my
best behavior. I only had one. But it's going down
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Speaker 2 (26:25):
There you go and that will be the that's the
phone call you want to answer. So there's rural news.
We're running a wee bit shorter time. Sorry about that.
We might have to pad at the end of the
hour because we're having a bit of trouble tracking down
that seventies pawn star wreck. Lad. I shouldn't say that,
should I. He's a great blake. We met him in Dunedin.
Don't shake your head at me. We met him in

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Dunedin last Tuesday. He's running brandt now around the country.

Speaker 9 (26:50):
But Rick Glad it's a great name. That's a great name,
like it could be on superest or something. No, not
really like a more soap opera and a mere and
soap opera.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Sport were the nth go Kiwi to the Bone since
nineteen oh four.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
The Crusaders are contemplating co captains after one of their
worst Super Rugby seasons. Scott Barrett has relinquished the leadership
after his appointment as All Black skipper first five as
a focal point of the Hurricane squad Riley Hoheppa returns
from the Crusaders, and Lucas Cashmore joins from the Blues,
replacing the injured Brett Cameron and the departed Aiden Morgan.

(27:31):
On no I won't do that story, reports claim former
English or England representative turned broadcast to Gary Lineker. He's
very good striker, wasn't he? For the Three Lines? Gary
Lineker will step down as host of BBC's Match of
the Day football program at the end of the season
after more than twenty five years in the role. Don't

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get ideas, Michelle, don't get ideas. We are going to
take a break on the other side of it. Monthly
here on the Country, we catch up with a Xander panel,
i e. People who have been finalists or winners of
the Xander McDonald Awards. Entries closed at the end of
October for the twenty twenty five competition. We're going to
talk to the twenty twenty two winner and a twenty

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twenty four finalist. Up next, Res Roberts and Tim Dangenlco.
Monthly here on the Country, we catch up with Xander
McDonald Awards panel. Guys or girls who have entered or
who are going to enter young leaders in agriculture and

(28:36):
entrepreneurs joining us today. It's kind of North versus South.
Tim Dangen are well known to the country listeners. He is,
of course the twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the
Year finalist and the Xander Awards this year twenty twenty four.
And Res Roberts from a line farms in mid Canterbury.
There res you one in twenty twenty two. Now you
two know each other quite well. Your paths have cross

(29:00):
was that rees.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
I was actually lucky enough to meet Tim Bore actually
olds a judge his year that Tim went through the
Zenda McDonald's, so that's how I meet him and Mimi.
Three time I met him, wasn't well into the airport
of all places. And ever since he's been a gym
to get to know.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, good stuff. I think you have a wonderful fraternity
in the Zanda McDonald Awards. What are we ten years old?
Something like ten years? I think we started in twenty fourteen.
Entries of clothes for the twenty twenty five awards. But
obviously Tim Denshin, you've got a pretty good CV. You
would encourage anyone to enter.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
Oh absolutely, Jamie for me It was just a personal
growth opportunity and a chance to connect with other sort
of passionate, enthusiastic people who want to have a positive impasse,
not only on their business that they're working in, but
the sector as a whole. So it's a great way
to go the network. And I don't know much Jamie Bows.
It was an opportunity for me to meet some people
that know a lot of things. So yeah, I really

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really appreciate the opportunity that I was given.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, let's have a look at how farming's going in
your respective necks of the wood. Did I get that
right anyhow? Too late now live radio? So rees Obviously,
dairy farming are line farms, Mid Canterbury, huge operation. Everything
I'm assuming is under irrigation. But they tell me Canterbury's
drying out. Nothing unusual, minds you at this time of

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the year.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
No, I assume me heading that way, We're get starting
to get dry and all the irrigators going full stop
at the moment. But you know, it's pretty hard to
get things wrong being a dairy farm and mid Kenny
at the moment, everythink we can't control going well, and
do you ever think we can controls going okay.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, dairy farming under irrigation. Isn't that like paint by numbers?

Speaker 8 (30:43):
It is a weaver hundred products.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, I guess it is. And the big story, I
guess one of the big stories this week was the
announcement from Fonterra Sunday night and yesterday that they're going
to lift that milk price the midpoint range to the
mid point to nine dollars fifty. That's starting to become
seriously good money race.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
No, it's going to be a highly favorable year. And
it's to be fair, We've had a few good ones
now and this one's certainly going to double down. And
we've seen a bit of a bump of land values.
We're also seeing the banks come very supportive in farming
and dairy farming in particular at the moment. So it's
a great time to be in dairy farming and it's
good repayment or for the team that have stuck true
to farming for a long period of time in New

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Zealand and it's a good payback for that. So with
a potential capital injection from Fonterra coming in the next
couple of years, I can see a lot of new
technology and innovation being invested heavily in New Zealand erry farming,
which will only strengthen our global position as well.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
You made an interesting comment on land values, and I
know that land in mid Canterbury, especially irrigated land, you
can do anything with it. It's fantastic land. Are you
already seeing signs of a lifting market?

Speaker 8 (31:55):
Yeah, certainly. Yeah, there's probably more farms on the market
at the moment than there has been over the last
three or four years combined. And also you know farms
that have been a little bit sticky to sell over
the last two years to have traded hands in the
last month or so. So there's a real renewed optimism
for dairy farms. Dairy support's probably gone off the radar
with it. But certainly there's a lot of credit influence

(32:17):
on the market. The banks are very favorable towards dairy farming,
and there's a lot of strong sales occurring and.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Why wouldn't they be with the prospect of a really
good payout. Some dangeon mirror I west Auckland, they're mainly
beef farming. Beef farmers are having a good year as well.

Speaker 10 (32:35):
It's been a positivity all around, Jamie, isn't there really?
So we've had a great season after the cyclone last
year and a really wet winter, we've had a good
twelve months of farming, and with strong spring prices and
an optimistic year ahead, interest rates coming back, it's starting
to feel like the worms certainly turned and we're sort
of starting to look at capital projects on the farm again.

(32:56):
And yeah, sort of tins up a little bit. So, yeah,
take my hat off to all the farmers have ground
out a tough period and we can look towards twenty
twenty five with a fair butit optimism.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Are you worried about Trump and tariffs?

Speaker 10 (33:08):
Yeah? I think we should be concerned, but we'll just
have to wait to see where the dust settles, only
because there's other areas that we might see improvement on.
You know, if you see some of these wars settled
down and global logistics even out there, we might see
transport costs decrease and some of the on farm costs
for the products that we import lower. So I think
it's too early to get too worried about it. And

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we know that we've got a government that's really backing
our primary sectors. I'm sure they'll be putting every resource
they have and behind making sure that we come out
of some of these deals with favorable terms.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
And tim One more for you. You mentioned recently on
this show that you were looking at diversification on the farm.
Are you going to do a Nadi Almona Carlos Baghri
and create a wedding venue on your farm.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
We're going to try.

Speaker 10 (33:55):
I don't think we're going to be deviling in as
many projects as what they're up to. They're a pretty
neat and pretty awesome to see what they're doing. But yeah,
we've started a project to build a wedding venue that
we should have finished by the end of summer. We
recently built a little cabin on the farm that we've
been renting out, which is doing some good returns. So yeah,
it's one of those things that you go through hard
times like what we've had in the last couple of years,

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and you look very hard at how you can solidify
your position as a business, and yeah, this is where
we've sort of ended up. So I'm excited to see
that the farming returns are improving, and then on the
back of that, we've got some other neat little diverse
income streams that are sort of propping us up and yeah,
strengthening the business as a whole.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Well, good on your lads. You're both wonderful ambassadors for
the Xander McDonald Awards. Right, we'll let you go and rest.
We might even see you in christ Church on Friday,
Cup and Show week.

Speaker 8 (34:44):
Let's look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
That's all from Wrapping the Country. Ricky Morrison texts Pistolian
mari In is the one who's sadly departed and apologies
for confusing them somewhat. Ian Morris wasn't in Split Ends.

(35:08):
I think I'm pretty sure he was in the dudes.
What a great KEI we band key we anthems today, Michelle,
you've got a couple of bits of feedback on Damian O'Connor.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I do.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
I didn't want to be too harsh because some of
it is a little bit mean.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
We don't want to waste you like Damien.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
Yeah, we don't want to stick the boot in, but
this one I found a little bit of a giggle. Hi, Jamie,
have no problem with sending Damien and for that matter,
anyone from Labour Greens or the Malory Party off shore.
The issue I have is paying to bring them back.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, not bad Texter.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
And we've also got one here. No, Damien shouldn't be
going put it towards a much needed to need an hospital.
I mean that would be the argument about that.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Absolutely, it's a waste of money. It's a waste of
taxpayers money, and I am not changing my mind on that.
There's so much we can spend money on and need
to spend money on in this country. Remember, if you
want some of the Farmer's Poor extra crispy pale ale
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(36:07):
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four Winners. When we get off air, we'll catch you
back tomorrow with the Prime Minister Christopher Luxel.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
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