June 17, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Winston Peters, Jane Smith, Mike McIntyre, and Warwick Catto and Jamie Strang.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Counting Stars. We've got some stars on the show today,
by my count, five of them. But we're not well.
We've got five plus counting stars on the show today,
but we're not counting people five yearly anymore. The census,
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the twenty thirty census is being scrapped off the press,
the government and stats en Zrea choosing a cheaper and
smaller alternative run yearly or annually. Interesting. Okay, we're going
to kick it off with the man who has been
around for a long long time, Winston Peters. A few
weeks ago he was the Deputy Prime Minister. These days
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just the Foreign Minister and of course the New Zealand
First Leader. His thoughts on the state of the world
might surprise you. Jane Smith, she's a star. She won
the Balance Farm Environment Awards along with the husband Blair
back and I think about twenty twelve or something like
that by memory, and she's got plenty to say. She
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reckons we should be more worried about global warring than
global warming, and I think she's right on that one.
Mike McIntire is a star. He's the head of derivatives
or is it commodities at Jardin. The second gedd TA
auction of the year was last night down, not down
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as much as the futures market was predicting, but is
Fonterra a bit optimistic with this opening shot twenty five
twenty six opening shot of ten dollars. We'll ask him
and a couple of stars to wrap it ahead of
tonight's Balance Farm Environment Awards. We've got Warwick ketto. Yes,
he's a star because he is the ninety was the
nineteen ninety five I suppose he still is nineteen ninety
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five Young Farmer of the Year, following in the steps
I was twin brother Grant, the only twins to have
won the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final, which
is actually coming up and in the cargo obviously in
a couple of weeks time. Of course, we've had brother
and sister winners of the Young Farmer as well Emma Paul,
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Tim Dangan and Jamie Strang. They're both judges and the
Balance Farm Environment Awards tonight. Jamie's seventy something and he
rowed a boat of this across Cook Strait. How good's
that they're all on the show today, Michelle or come
in with rural news and we'll have a look at
sports news for you as well as we count down
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to that big Super Rugby final and christ Church on
Saturday night. But Winston Peters to kick off the show.
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Great to have Winston Peters, New Zealand first leader, former
Deputy Prime Minister kicking off the show in Winston. I
don't want to be ages here, but you've been around
for a long time. The world as we know is
in a constant state of flux. But g it's unsettled
at the moment. And I heard you quoted or I
read about you being quoted, couldn't agree more that we're
in the worst space we've been since the Cuban Missile
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crisis of nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
The reality is that you know, in post war the
geostrategic circumstance has never been so bad and what we
do where New Zealands are concerned is very important about
being cautious and keeping our counsel and waiting to see
what develops. But you know, you've got all sorts of
people expecting us to do miracles from this far away
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from the center of the strife in the Middle East,
And all I'm saying is that there are circumstances developing
there which I believe will not last as long as
some spect let us think it'll be over I think
in a couple of weeks, and hopefully that will peace
and calm will break out of the consequence.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, you're talking about something being over in a couple
of weeks. I'm assuming you're referring Israel Aram. There are
lots of other conflicts around the world that aren't going
to be over in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, but that's the current one that's got the concentration
of people at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Now, you mentioned the people who don't like your foreign
policy or the government's foreign policy. They include former Prime
Minister Helen Clark, who you worked with, Don Brash, former
National Party leader. In fact, you have been quoted as
saying that critics of the government's foreign policy reset are
ill informed and shouting impotently at the clouds. Didn't you
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steal that one liner from Chippy who accused you of
being an angry old man shouting at the clouds?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
No, no, he borrowed that from some social media opponent.
But I'm saying that here we've got a circumstance where
on for example, for example, August pillar two, both those
two people, Brash and Clark, that you were cite after
the August twenty one when Desinda Adern signed up to
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looking at it all, to studying the possibility of August
pillar two if we were invited. Didn't there word until
after the twenty three election. So for two years they
were at of East silent, and all of a sudden,
all of a sudden, they've got an alarm about what's happened,
and what's happened at this point in time is nothing's happened.
So they have not been updated, they have not been
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briefed for sixteen or more years, And I'm just saying
to them, why don't you leave it to people who
are in the center of the action, who are getting
all the information to their critical need and upon which
used to rely when you were associated with foreign affairs,
but apparently not lying about on that information at all.
You're just relying upon your own bias and it might work.
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They've talked about China, for example, now a ration with China. Well,
ambassador for China recently said that our relationships are in
an excellent situation. You see what I mean. So you've
got all this alarmism going on, not justified, and the unfazed,
uneducated media of just carrying this information.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
When was the last time you missed field days? And
you had a pretty good excuse. It wasn't the dog
ate my homework. It was the fact that you were
doing work for US, trade work for US in France, Rome,
and you did get a bit of a breakthrough in Indonesia.
But going back to my original question, when was the
last time you missed field days?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I can't remember. I've been going to field days for years.
But you know I was in news at the very
same time signing up to the Halal deal, which is
big for our farming community and our exports, which we've
been working on for decades. So this is a serious
achievement that I get in your headlines, And no was
anybody in the media concerned about it. No, this is
the first time you're actually hearing about it on your show.
See what's wrong with our country? So you've got all
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the effort to ensure that this dynamic industry called poet
production and reaching our export levels of sixty billion critical
to our future, can go forward, and none of the
positive headlines of any value to the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Now we broadcast at Field Days for three days in
a prime position just inside the main doors of the pavilion,
the biggest the man who drew the biggest crowd, or
the person, let's be politically correct, when who drew the
biggest crowd was none other than your Deputy, the Prince
of the Province's Martina Shane Jones. Yet at those said
same Field Days, Federated Farmers came out with their pole
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national rocketing ahead fifty four percent support from the Farmers
Act nineteen New Zealand, First eight Labor Greens and to
party Mary got nothing and that's probably deserved. Why aren't
you getting better support from the farmers Because I'll give
it to you and Shane, you've been good supporters of them.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yes, But here's the point you see on your show
and other shows and provincial radios highly depend upon the
prime production, farming community and all those associated industries. When
did they ever recite the fact that the National Party,
supported by Act signed up to the Powis Accord. Do
you remember that it was don Key and Paul Bennett
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that did that? And here the farmers standing about what
it all means and not even taking any guard for
who put them in that situation. You get my point now,
So all we can do is go out to the
provinces as we will in the following months, and pack
the halls and tell people the truth.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Part of your election campaign will be to get us
out of Paris. Are you shouting at clouds there?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
No, I'm not saying getting out of Paris. I'm saying
to everybody, hang on, if four countries beginning with sober
thirty percent from China and then India and then Russia
and the United States are not involved in this, on
what possible basis can we think that New Zealand's going
to help or we're going to just do this sacrifice
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our economy, sacrifice our wealth, sending ourselves to the Third
world without questioning why if we can't get them incorporated?
Are we being bound this way. Why are we not
saying to them all like you in or you're not in?
But no, we're out here at virtue singing because the
whole lot of lefty shills think this is a good idea,
regardless of the fact that the very industries that keep
them alive are going to be imperiled. We got on
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that pathway without questioning what's happening.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, I think if the farmers are listening to that,
they might have changed their vote. Hey, just a final word, perhaps.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Hang on, hang on right where you go? That's my
very point. How come they're hearing it for the first time? No,
beniears on since when we went to parison, right, So
here's the point. Why are they hearing it for the
first time? Anyway? Better than never.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Let me just finish on your political adversaries, and there's
been a lot of those over the years. But are
your favorite targets at the moment, they're mine as well.
The Greens and to Party Maury. I saw the Greens
agriculture guy on Jack Tame. Heaven help farming if they
get anywhere near the Treasury benches. I think to Party
Maury are even worse. See I reckon, you're going to
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win the selection by default. That is, of course, Winston,
unless Labor gets a new leader and you decide to
go with them.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh you see, here we go again. Now you're out
there spreading rumor.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
No I'm not.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I'm just putting it out there.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
As every farmer to say. It's spreading rumor with malice.
The fact of the matter is that the farming community
should understand that in his universe, we've got a very
very strong farming base. We've got critical people like Shane Jones,
like Mike Patterson, like myself will come up a dairy
farm or different farms and know a bit about the
farming community and have always represented and defended them to
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the hilt. That's the only reason why we kept the
Paris under control in the last seventy twenty twenty period.
The mount we've gone it went. Heywhy So here we
are saying to the National Party and saying that the
two others in Parliament, tell me, how can we achieve
these things if the critical economies are over sixty percent
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of the missions as we speak and are not part
of the process, just stop virtue singing and look at
our economic future and our chance of recovery being utterly
imperiled if the people on the left get their way.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh my bottle that. Hey, when you flew home from
France and Indonesia, did you read your Sinder's book? Did
you get a mention?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I haven't read the book, and I won't be. I've
seen fell. Many politicians write books, and the extraordinary thing
is how they seek to recorrect history. I can go
through countless politicians books and blow them apart, page by page,
but I'm too busy doing a job for the taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Hey, when you finally retire, if that ever indeed happens,
yours would be a great read.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, here's the point. I ask yourself this. If you're
working with college and associates who are keeping private notes
at night, intending to write about the confidential conversations you
had in the day, during those days and during those
weeks of all the time you're working with them, would
you actually trust them?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Would you share with.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Them the conference if you knew they were writing a
book about it? Well, I don't think that that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
All right, Winston Peters, thanks for your time. I could
chat to you all day. I haven't got all day.
If there was a chapter on Winston Peter's people he
met at the Green Parrot. I think that would be
a good read. I thank you very much for your time.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Now, what did you throw that part for? The fact
is the Green Parrot is a barometer of this country.
A lot of these restaurants are closing down because so
much of the Willington planning as anti business and any car.
That's a local government issue, but it's also a local
government issue allowed by middling central government.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And we all love the Green Parrot, white buttered bread
and black sauce. You can't beat it. Whenston Peter's got
to go.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Thank you it cheers baxcuse me makes me feel alive.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It is twenty after twelve. You're with the country. Good value,
isn't he? Michelle Watt has wandered in here. Michelle, thank
you for the cup of tea. I did buy you
a coffee this morning.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Is very generous.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Well, no, no, and I just said my winter energy
payment coffee for you and Jane.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
It's very nice of you and we appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, even though Jane's fall is sicking and isn't here today.
Have you ever been to the Green Parrot? In Wellington.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
No, it's my life mission to do a visit to
Parliament and the Green Parrot and what's that other pub
as well that has all the puppets on.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The war is at the Green Parrot backbenches. Yeah, I
really want to go down one day, great great, great
pub right across the road from Parliament. Yeah, it's a
great although I must ad met we were up there
for the Help Me out Here National Lamb Day. Of
course we were broadcasting from there, and I must say
Central wellington's a shell of what it used to be
in the good old days when we were traveling up
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there to do rugby commentaries. And my old mate Grant
is but I'm not name dropping because he's like a
business partner. He's a great fan. Hello Grant if you're listening.
He's a great fan of the Green Parrot himself. So
I've gone along there a few times with him and
you always see interesting people there, namely Winston. But it's
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like the best cafe here in Dunedin for Micah tables.
Well last time I went anyhow for Micah tables buttered
white bread and black sauce.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
You can't go past that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Takes a lot of beating. Up next, Jane Smith atop
a hill somewhere on her north Otago farm. It's the
only place I can get reception for her before the
end of the hour. Mike McIntyre out of Jarden on
last night's global dairy trade auction down one percent. Not
as bad as we were for the futures market. Was predicting, predicting,
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But has Fonterra got away? Bit carried away with a
ten dollar opening shot? Will ask Mike and the balance
farm environment towards her on tonight in Wellington are they.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Yeah, they're at the Takina Wellington Convention Center, which I've
not as you heard of.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I have to look up with you. You know, that's
just across the road from Baba. Yeah, it's their Flash
New Convention Center. I don't know if they can afford it,
but it's agree. We're there last year for the Primary
Industry Awards. They're in the Flash New Conference Center in
christ Church next week. More about that next week, but
up next, that's Jane Smith on the country.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Account stars.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Slane Swinging Swing. You've heard from Winston Peters has another
high profile commentator on the country Jane Smith, north Otago
farmer of course, former winner of the Balanced Farm Environment Awards,
which are on tonight. Hey Jane, just before we get
into the issues of the day, an unscientific poll at
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Field Days had Jane and Shane is my most popular correspondence.
That's of course you and the Prince of the Provinces.
Should I be worried?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Well, thank you, Jamie. That's almost a compliment, but I'll
take it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Jamie.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
I don't get many compliments around here, so thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is that all you've got to say.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
It's about it, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
I mean, I'm just really literally standing out in the
paddock every fortnight. I guess shooting from the Jamie, which
are not quite as articulous as Shane Jones, but I'm just, yeah,
I guess at grassroots messaging from the paddic.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, let's get some of that grass root messaging from
the paddock. You reckon, We should be and I'm totally
with you on this. In Winston also spoke about this,
we should be more worried about global warring rather than
global warming.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Oh absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
You know, as a trading nation we should be very concerned,
you know, in terms of the conflict that that's happening,
and we've spent spreend to spend quite too much time on,
you know, praying at the ultar of climate change in
terms of the Paris Agreement, and not enough time in
terms of actually looking at that conflict escalation that's happening.
So yeah, we should be very, very concerned. And but
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again back here in Old New Zealand, we seem to
be apologizing for things that actually, in the biggest.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Scheme of things, are tiny and actually and actually we're
nailing anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Winston made a talent comment and he referred to where
we are in the world at the moment as the
sort of the stickiest, most dangerous time since the Cuban
missiles when Kennedy and khrush Chief were going head to
head in the early nineteen sixties. You were you weren't
even a twinkle in your father's eye back then, Jane.
But he's putting it into some sort of historic perspective,
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and that is the.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Really concerning thing in terms of what that might mean
again for little Old New Zealand going forward. And so
that's why we need to be as resilient and as
robust in terms of our economy as we can but
instead we seem to be finding fifty ways.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
To hamstering our own economy.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
And you know, I saw, oh, the Green Party's unhinged policy,
fiscal policy or fiscal folly or what fister, if you
want to call it something else. It was lacking both
oxygen and a grasp of real wood reality. And you know,
the Greens has suddenly decided that debt is the way forward.
And I think that suggested something like one hundred and
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twenty two percent of GDP would be perfectly fine to
chase for debt.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
And it's interesting.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
The same day I heard an interview with Chloe Swarbrick,
I heard one with Ruth Rich and it was chalk
and cheese, Jamie, you know, when she was talking about
dealing to the debt and deficit and cutting your cloth
and having balancing the box, Jamie, and it was really,
I don't know, it was just really cut throat and
exactly what we need. So and that said, I did
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actually agree with some of the things that old Steve
Abel from the Green Party. I actually wondered whether you
should get him on your show, actually, Jamie, because actually
he's a reasonably sensible rooster amongst the socialist Henhouse and.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
The Green Party.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, well, Jane, you're referring to the Q and a
interview with Jack Tame, which I thought the whole show
was really good. I'm not quite sure whether we can
totally justify Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets in the
early nineteen nineties too hard, too fast. But anyhow, going
back to Steve Abel, disagree with literally everything he said
except for the bit about pine trees.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
Yeah, but I actually really liked how he talked about
the whole story around healthy nutrition by adversity, mosaic landscapes,
and the brutal truth is those are the time the
things that we should be promoting instead of actually, you know,
going cap in hands to the rest of the world
saying really really sorry about our mission profile. Actually that
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the brutal truth is that actually we should have enough
courage to actually be proud of our omission's profile. The
fact that it's food producing and actually something like the
Paris Accord is actually essentially not relevant in that regard.
So you know, it's barely worth the paper it's written on,
yet it could be costing us billions of dollars and
perpetuity for a reversible land just change. And it's exactly
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what Steve Abel was saying, not on the mission emission
side of things, but at the end of the day,
the pine tree.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Plantations are just the symptom of the bigger problem.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
And I know that the current coalition have announced, you know,
made their new announcement that was sort of trying to
make up for the impotent one that they made in
December last year, But in effect that's really just arranging
the dick chairs on the Titanic while the band plays on.
So actually we need to be really, really bold about
our pathway forward. So instead of you again spending so
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much money. It's funny, isn't it, Jamie. We sent to
scrimp and save in so many areas, so health, education, infrastructure,
but when it comes to a missions reduction, it really
is there's money to swim in and there's a lot
of people set to make a lot of money from
methay mitigation, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And it's a pretty sad state of affairs that that's
the case.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I agree with you, we shouldn't be cutting any spending
at all on health. But the Green Party, you can't
take them seriously. They would be the death of farming,
a wealth tax and inheritance tax like the British farmers
are facing. Chloe said, we don't live on a monopoly
board land barons. That's people like you, Jane Smith, have
got to get out of jail free card.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Oh well I wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah again, but they certainly understand the chef and be
sector and the low one put sector, the hill and
the high country. And yet sure don't let them near
the checkbook. Absolutely not. But actually so I went back
to their roots, which the original founders of the Green
Party did they actually understand that, you know that we're
at a crossroads terms of that natural sustainable biodiversity, you
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know the fact that we're food producing heroes and what's
happening in the moment. Of course, we've got the corporate
the corporate interference. You know, we've got Nile, which is
essentially a junk food company trying to tell us what
to do, and our I guess, our intensive side of
farming is really trying to turn us into a quasi
eu so actually forcing us into feed lots. So and
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it's really sad that we've been told to be quiet
about this and actually that we can't have a upfront
debate of the country. We seem to be looking over
our shoulder and saying it's big brother watching. We better
be quieted at this. Actually, lets be really really honest
and say, actually we are different. Our emission's profile is different,
and we're really really proud of it because actually, instead
of a point of difference in terms of our resources,
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we're actually made making it into a pointless difference.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Jamie, talking about emission's profiles, I think yours is going
to go up when you and Habby Blair chet off
to the Mediterranean perhaps this winter for a holiday, maybe
a yacht trip or the Mediterranean. Off the back of
selling an Angus ball last week, Jane for seventy one
thousand dollars. That's a lot of ball and a lot
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of moolah.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
I'm not sure about that, Jamie, because I'm actually looking
at the bills on my desk that are waiting for
me at lunch time to pay, and they're fairly sizable
as well. But you know, we're just pleased that showed
the positivity, not singularly that ball and it's going to
a really great anger.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Start in the North Island.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
But actually the fact that she can be farmers are
now able to have some confidence and make some long
term decisions on their farming operations. So now we're pleased,
and our average didn't get too high.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Overall. I was just a good stable sale. And no, Jamie,
I won't be going to the Mediterranean. I'll be lucky
to make it to tour tat Pree if Blair's got
anything to.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
Do with it.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Wow, he's a Southland to through and through to a tap.
He's got a lovely golf course. It's a beautiful part
of New Zealand and Western Southland. Jane Smith, I'll let
you go. I know you've got a flat out afternoon
of farming in front of you. Thanks for some of
your time at lunchtime. Get those bills paid before.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You head out the door, Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Thank you, Jane. Yes, the unscientific poll at Field Days
had Jane and Shane as our favorite correspondence. Feel free
to drop us a text on five double nine and
tell us who's your favorite correspondent on the country. Gen
regular Texter has texted in, Hi, Jamie, I disagree. If
Russia was present and the Middle East, maybe another Cuban
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missile crisis Yep, fair enough. I don't think we're quite
at doomsday like we were in nineteen sixty two. Hi, Jamie,
you forgot the mixed grill at the green parrot top
feet in the early house. That's from Graham, you bang on.
You can't beat it. Only a smattering with the mixed
grill of salad or vegetables, only a garnish. It was
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meat and chips and eggs, all the all the food
group essentials. And here's one from Jared and christ Church.
Good o. Jamie couldn't agree more with Winston. Why on
earth are we considering the involvement in the Paris Accord?
It doesn't make economics sense for God's sake, says Jared.
Up Next, Michelle with rural news. We'll have a look
at sports news for you before the end of the hour.
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Mike McIntyre on the GDT auction, and two judges at
tonight's Balance Farm Environment Awards, Warrett Hadow, Jamie Strange count
twenty three away from one. Here's Michelle with the latest
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and rural news. And it's more good news from Zesper.
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Speaker 7 (25:42):
That's right, Jamie, some great results for Zesprey. Zesbrey's indicative
forecast for the twenty twenty five twenty twenty sixth season
has the key fruit marketer on track to deliver strong
valley to growers in another record crop year than indicative
during twenty twenty five twenty twenty six OGR forecast. It
reflects a positive start to the season, with rangers narrowed
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from the initial guidance provided a March twenty twenty five
Zesprey corporate net profit after tax including licensed revenue as
forecast to be two hundred and forty eight to two
hundred and fifty eight million, which is up from one
hundred and fifty five point two million last year. And
I was reading one hundred and ten million trays exported apparently,
which is insane. That's a lot of key we for it.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Well, I know you might want to relook at those
number of trays, Michelle. You might hundred and ten. We
might go a little bit more on that one. Let's
just see done. We'll come back to the number of
trays being exported. No one likes the corrector, but I'm
not sure that number is correct. You ever, we look,
We'll do sport.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
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Speaker 3 (26:47):
I'll buy you a coffee if I'm wrong. The introduction
of a mixed team skof tournament format for the twenty
twenty eight A Los Angeles Olympics will struggle to lure
Lydia Cod Dame Lydia Co out of the Club US
with a full set of medals already in a bag.
The twenty eight year old has previously said Paris marked
her final games and the prospect of Ryan of joining
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joining Ryan Fox has been put to Co ahead of
this week's PGA Championship. What a dynamic jew that duo.
They would be in the Pears and Crusader's boss Colin Mainsbridge,
will he be the new boss of Ends are claims
the franchise will need support from the council and community
to maximize hype around Saturday's Super Rugby final against the
Chiefs in christ Church. Not sure about that, Colin. I
(27:32):
think there's plenty of hype around the game.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm looking at christ Church deserves a new stadium. No
city deserves a new stadium more than christ Church. It's
going to be magnificent, but it's not good news for
us here in Dunedin. Anyhow, have you done your homework
on the I have.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
We're both we're both kind of right, really what I mean?
So the one hundred and ten million is what they've
shipped so far, two hundred million trays is what is
on the cart.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Well, I'm claiming victory there. Up next the Global Dairy
Trade Auction with Mike McIntyre from Jardin.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh take that money, Buddy Percy.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
In a past life he was the head of derivatives.
These days he's got a new job title. I wonder
if it came with a pay rise for Mike McIntyre
out of Jardin Head of Commodities. Which is the Is
that a promotion, mic or a relegation?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Good afternoon, Yeah, afternoon, Jammie.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Actually, I've never questioned it, but you know it's one
of these ones where changes as good as a holiday.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
As I say, well, head of Commodity sounds pretty cool
to me. Look, the Global Dairy Trade Auction last night
down one percent whole milk powder down two point one percent,
skim milk powder one point three butter and cheese. The
fats are sort of saving the day. And while this
wasn't a great result on the face of it, it
was a lot better than the futures market was picking.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Yeah, that's right. So the features were as were looking
at one stage as much as four percent of both
skim and homemook powder, and even the facts as you say,
we were forecasted to fall and in the case of
butter didn't. But from my side of things, you know,
the third one in a row now and we yet
to face the increase of volumes that come with this
time of the year. So I just wonder if it's
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sort of given a buyers an excuse to set to
the sidelines like we've seen in the previous couple of years.
And just one cavet i'd give to that is obviously
that strategy has been unsuccessful. But you know, I think
they'll be looking at what's happened in New Zealand Cow
and pass your condition in great you know, in great condition.
You're seeing feed prices at record lows almost in regard
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to the milk price, and then the weather, you know,
We've obviously had some decent rainfall at back end of
the season, which should sort of set thumers up pretty
nicely for the new year. So I'm wondering if, in
contrast to the previous two seasons, so thinking we're going
to have a good start to this year.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Was Fonterra a bit ambitious to come out with an
opening shot of ten dollars and not stick to the
mathematical midpoint of nine dollars fifty No.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
I think ten dollars was a fair reflection if we
were sitting in probably where we still remain sitting. I
think the eight dollars is what the buyers will be
seizing on. You know, they'll be sitting out there thinking
we're saying to themselves, you know what is voetier and
know that we don't, and so it may give them
a little bit of an excuse to sit back and
wait and see what volume comes once we get through
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to the peaks. But at the same time, as I said,
you know that that strategy has been unsuccessful in the
previous two times, where we saw prices start to take
off and you know, buyers are jumping over themselves in
order to get volume on board. So you know, if
I was a buyer at these sort of levels, now,
I would certainly be cautious in terms of paying what
has in the past in record highs, but I'd certainly
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be going along with with what you know, with what
ingredients I needed to continue my manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Let's have a look at homework power. China bought less,
but the Middle East brought more. Mind you, the Middle
East got a bit more money. Now that war is
brewing between Israel and Iran, oil prices are shooting up
a bit more disposable income, Mike, I.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Think so in you know, oil is spoken about has
been the chanic commodities, and so where oil goes is
in a more sustained fashion then the rest go. And
so we have seen in the past a strong correlation
between derrey'smodity prices and oil prices. I mean, this might
only be a temporary blip, although we've seen today post
to US clothes oil prices jump another five percent. So
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you know, does that mean that Derry goes with it? Possibly?
Certainly the Chinese are key to us in terms of
homework powder. What I would note is that unusually the
Middle East brought a lot of butter this time as well,
so I'd say they were the reason for the prices
continuing to head higher. And you know, as I put
them on note, I think it's really important, as we've
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done in the past couple of seasons, that why the
demand for homework powder comes out of China. It might
be a bit softer at this time of the year
because the demand's not there that we do, you know,
we meet all that demand in the creams and fat
market and send milk in that direction while the prices
are remaining at elevated levels.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
How much longer can butter and cheese the fats tofire logic? Logic,
let me try that again to fire gravity.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Yeah, I think through into Christmas. So it's difficult for
us at this time of year because our production won't
really ramp up until September, maybe even start of October.
So getting that product into market in the Northern Hemisphere
before Christmas is going to be a tough ask. But
as I said, any sort of milk at the margin,
that's certainly where you'd be putting it into the cream
streams and then sending it to the Norman Hemisphere as
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quickly as possible. You know, it's just unfortunate that's you know,
their demand coincides with a low period in our in
our production. But you know, I think we should try
and obviously make the most of what's available to us.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Mike McIntyre out of Jardin. Thanks for your time. You're
into the predictions game, Chiefs or Crusaders. I'm hoping for
the cheats.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
Yeah, I'm saying, you know, I like you excitingly saw
a player. They got it, you know, Crusades, they're just
agreed for the last twenty years, haven't they. Sod be
great to see a new name.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
On the cup.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Absolutely, Thanks for their time.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Thanks Shemmy, A welcome back.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
To the country. Ten away from one. Some of your feedback.
Shane Jones best guest, best Jane Smith, worst Hipkins. I
don't know why you have him on the show. He
tells lies. Someone else says, go Jamie. I'm barracking for
the Chiefs even though they're not my team. Crusaders have
always pinched Northland's up and coming stars. They have too,
(33:29):
haven't you, Norm Berryman?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
What was that?
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to Jamie Strang, Warick Kadow.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Mark everything that kills me makes me feel a lot ibn.
I've been losing sea.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Okay, wrapping the country today ahead of tonight's Balance Farm
Environment Awards in a flash place in Wellington. There are
a couple of long standing and iconic judges. I hope
I don't mind me calling them that. Warrick Kado nineteen
ninety five Young Farmer of the Year. Jamie Strang, You brilliant,
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brilliant man. At seventy six years of age, you rode
across the Cook Strait. No time to talk about that.
Who's going to win tonight? I'll start with you, Warick,
a farmer. Yeah, well that's good answer. Well you've got
to play the Fifth Amendment on that one because you
guys are judges. But you've got a very strong field.
And Warwick, I know you were nineteen ninety five Young
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Farmer of the Yeir, but I was just because I
used to MC the Balance Farm Environment Awards and I said,
look i'm getting stale and I got out before they
sacked me. But I remember the first year we had
an outright winner, because that was my beef with it.
We had all these presentations but not an outright winner,
and it's an old mate of mine from South and
Grant and Bernie Weller won it. They beat Steve Wan Harris,
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Steve and Jane and Steve's never forgiven them for that.
Jane and Blair Smith. So that was twenty eleven. They
were twenty twelve, Craig and Rose Mackenzie really good arable
farmers in mid Cantery, just to name a few. So
we've got a rich history.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Warwick, Yes, certainly much like young farmers, but the caliber
is just grown and grown over the years, and that's
one of the things that makes the task each you
harder and harder and harder, so to work out who
it is. But the one thing they all have in common, Jamie,
they have an emotional connection to the land. And it's
Jamie or test too. It's not unusual to have a
(36:06):
farmer or a grow with a few tiers and that
shows you how connected they are emotionally to their land.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, that's a bit like me on the golf course.
I shared a few tears as well. Not even emotionally connected,
Jamie Strang. We've got a twenty seven year old representing
Whitcatto or the White Caado region this year.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yeah, it's only a short time ago, maybe ten years ago, Jamie,
that we thought, well, some people thought we might be
running out of entrance to these awards, but it's the opposite.
We've got more and better people coming forward and now
we've got twenty seven year old and no, I think
it's the first time we had someone under thirty. And
that's a new generation coming through, which has to be
a good thought for the future, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, Warek, when does this sit in terms of farming awards?
We've got the Primary Industry Awards and christ Church next week.
These tonight. I think these are right up there.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Well, I've just walked out of the room where Minister
paired it. So then hog At are speaking and their
quote was that this would be the Pinnacle Primary Industry
Awards and I'd agree with that, and particularly because it's
pen sector you mean across sectors, cross sector. Yep, yep, same,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You had me confused to weave it with your Young
Farmer of the Year knowledge there. Okay, final word to you,
Jamie Strong. Are you stepping aside as a judge?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Yep, tim has come.
Speaker 10 (37:26):
I've been involved with the FAMI, I would always at
two thousand and one, and I've been a national judge
of work for a long time. But yeah, other things
to do, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Don't really want to see beside, but I think it's
time to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, you've got to know when your time's up. As
I did. I got out before I got pushed and
unfortunately for the Balanced Farm Environment Awards, they were desperate,
desperate after I left them, and they got Graham Smith
to be the MC. So anyhow they saw light eventually.
I'm not sure who's MCing tonight. It's going to be
a great night. We will be speaking to the oneers
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on tomorrow's show. We'll catch you then burn.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Down this river.
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Counting Stars. We've got some stars on the show today,
by my count, five of them. But we're not well.
We've got five plus counting stars on the show today,
but we're not counting people five yearly anymore. The census,
(01:01):
the twenty thirty census is being scrapped off the press,
the government and stats en Zrea choosing a cheaper and
smaller alternative run yearly or annually. Interesting. Okay, we're going
to kick it off with the man who has been
around for a long long time, Winston Peters. A few
weeks ago he was the Deputy Prime Minister. These days
(01:22):
just the Foreign Minister and of course the New Zealand
First Leader. His thoughts on the state of the world
might surprise you. Jane Smith, she's a star. She won
the Balance Farm Environment Awards along with the husband Blair
back and I think about twenty twelve or something like
that by memory, and she's got plenty to say. She
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reckons we should be more worried about global warring than
global warming, and I think she's right on that one.
Mike McIntire is a star. He's the head of derivatives
or is it commodities at Jardin. The second gedd TA
auction of the year was last night down, not down
(02:04):
as much as the futures market was predicting, but is
Fonterra a bit optimistic with this opening shot twenty five
twenty six opening shot of ten dollars. We'll ask him
and a couple of stars to wrap it ahead of
tonight's Balance Farm Environment Awards. We've got Warwick ketto. Yes,
he's a star because he is the ninety was the
nineteen ninety five I suppose he still is nineteen ninety
(02:27):
five Young Farmer of the Year, following in the steps
I was twin brother Grant, the only twins to have
won the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final, which
is actually coming up and in the cargo obviously in
a couple of weeks time. Of course, we've had brother
and sister winners of the Young Farmer as well Emma Paul,
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Tim Dangan and Jamie Strang. They're both judges and the
Balance Farm Environment Awards tonight. Jamie's seventy something and he
rowed a boat of this across Cook Strait. How good's
that they're all on the show today, Michelle or come
in with rural news and we'll have a look at
sports news for you as well as we count down
(03:09):
to that big Super Rugby final and christ Church on
Saturday night. But Winston Peters to kick off the show.
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Great to have Winston Peters, New Zealand first leader, former
Deputy Prime Minister kicking off the show in Winston. I
don't want to be ages here, but you've been around
for a long time. The world as we know is
in a constant state of flux. But g it's unsettled
at the moment. And I heard you quoted or I
read about you being quoted, couldn't agree more that we're
in the worst space we've been since the Cuban Missile
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crisis of nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
The reality is that you know, in post war the
geostrategic circumstance has never been so bad and what we
do where New Zealands are concerned is very important about
being cautious and keeping our counsel and waiting to see
what develops. But you know, you've got all sorts of
people expecting us to do miracles from this far away
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from the center of the strife in the Middle East,
And all I'm saying is that there are circumstances developing
there which I believe will not last as long as
some spect let us think it'll be over I think
in a couple of weeks, and hopefully that will peace
and calm will break out of the consequence.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, you're talking about something being over in a couple
of weeks. I'm assuming you're referring Israel Aram. There are
lots of other conflicts around the world that aren't going
to be over in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, but that's the current one that's got the concentration
of people at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Now, you mentioned the people who don't like your foreign
policy or the government's foreign policy. They include former Prime
Minister Helen Clark, who you worked with, Don Brash, former
National Party leader. In fact, you have been quoted as
saying that critics of the government's foreign policy reset are
ill informed and shouting impotently at the clouds. Didn't you
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steal that one liner from Chippy who accused you of
being an angry old man shouting at the clouds?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
No, no, he borrowed that from some social media opponent.
But I'm saying that here we've got a circumstance where
on for example, for example, August pillar two, both those
two people, Brash and Clark, that you were cite after
the August twenty one when Desinda Adern signed up to
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looking at it all, to studying the possibility of August
pillar two if we were invited. Didn't there word until
after the twenty three election. So for two years they
were at of East silent, and all of a sudden,
all of a sudden, they've got an alarm about what's happened,
and what's happened at this point in time is nothing's happened.
So they have not been updated, they have not been
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briefed for sixteen or more years, And I'm just saying
to them, why don't you leave it to people who
are in the center of the action, who are getting
all the information to their critical need and upon which
used to rely when you were associated with foreign affairs,
but apparently not lying about on that information at all.
You're just relying upon your own bias and it might work.
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They've talked about China, for example, now a ration with China. Well,
ambassador for China recently said that our relationships are in
an excellent situation. You see what I mean. So you've
got all this alarmism going on, not justified, and the unfazed,
uneducated media of just carrying this information.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
When was the last time you missed field days? And
you had a pretty good excuse. It wasn't the dog
ate my homework. It was the fact that you were
doing work for US, trade work for US in France, Rome,
and you did get a bit of a breakthrough in Indonesia.
But going back to my original question, when was the
last time you missed field days?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I can't remember. I've been going to field days for years.
But you know I was in news at the very
same time signing up to the Halal deal, which is
big for our farming community and our exports, which we've
been working on for decades. So this is a serious
achievement that I get in your headlines, And no was
anybody in the media concerned about it. No, this is
the first time you're actually hearing about it on your show.
See what's wrong with our country? So you've got all
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the effort to ensure that this dynamic industry called poet
production and reaching our export levels of sixty billion critical
to our future, can go forward, and none of the
positive headlines of any value to the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Now we broadcast at Field Days for three days in
a prime position just inside the main doors of the pavilion,
the biggest the man who drew the biggest crowd, or
the person, let's be politically correct, when who drew the
biggest crowd was none other than your Deputy, the Prince
of the Province's Martina Shane Jones. Yet at those said
same Field Days, Federated Farmers came out with their pole
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national rocketing ahead fifty four percent support from the Farmers
Act nineteen New Zealand, First eight Labor Greens and to
party Mary got nothing and that's probably deserved. Why aren't
you getting better support from the farmers Because I'll give
it to you and Shane, you've been good supporters of them.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yes, But here's the point you see on your show
and other shows and provincial radios highly depend upon the
prime production, farming community and all those associated industries. When
did they ever recite the fact that the National Party,
supported by Act signed up to the Powis Accord. Do
you remember that it was don Key and Paul Bennett
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that did that? And here the farmers standing about what
it all means and not even taking any guard for
who put them in that situation. You get my point now,
So all we can do is go out to the
provinces as we will in the following months, and pack
the halls and tell people the truth.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Part of your election campaign will be to get us
out of Paris. Are you shouting at clouds there?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
No, I'm not saying getting out of Paris. I'm saying
to everybody, hang on, if four countries beginning with sober
thirty percent from China and then India and then Russia
and the United States are not involved in this, on
what possible basis can we think that New Zealand's going
to help or we're going to just do this sacrifice
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our economy, sacrifice our wealth, sending ourselves to the Third
world without questioning why if we can't get them incorporated?
Are we being bound this way. Why are we not
saying to them all like you in or you're not in?
But no, we're out here at virtue singing because the
whole lot of lefty shills think this is a good idea,
regardless of the fact that the very industries that keep
them alive are going to be imperiled. We got on
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that pathway without questioning what's happening.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, I think if the farmers are listening to that,
they might have changed their vote. Hey, just a final word, perhaps.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Hang on, hang on right where you go? That's my
very point. How come they're hearing it for the first time? No,
beniears on since when we went to parison, right, So
here's the point. Why are they hearing it for the
first time? Anyway? Better than never.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Let me just finish on your political adversaries, and there's
been a lot of those over the years. But are
your favorite targets at the moment, they're mine as well.
The Greens and to Party Maury. I saw the Greens
agriculture guy on Jack Tame. Heaven help farming if they
get anywhere near the Treasury benches. I think to Party
Maury are even worse. See I reckon, you're going to
(10:43):
win the selection by default. That is, of course, Winston,
unless Labor gets a new leader and you decide to
go with them.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh you see, here we go again. Now you're out
there spreading rumor.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
No I'm not.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I'm just putting it out there.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
As every farmer to say. It's spreading rumor with malice.
The fact of the matter is that the farming community
should understand that in his universe, we've got a very
very strong farming base. We've got critical people like Shane Jones,
like Mike Patterson, like myself will come up a dairy
farm or different farms and know a bit about the
farming community and have always represented and defended them to
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the hilt. That's the only reason why we kept the
Paris under control in the last seventy twenty twenty period.
The mount we've gone it went. Heywhy So here we
are saying to the National Party and saying that the
two others in Parliament, tell me, how can we achieve
these things if the critical economies are over sixty percent
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of the missions as we speak and are not part
of the process, just stop virtue singing and look at
our economic future and our chance of recovery being utterly
imperiled if the people on the left get their way.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh my bottle that. Hey, when you flew home from
France and Indonesia, did you read your Sinder's book? Did
you get a mention?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I haven't read the book, and I won't be. I've
seen fell. Many politicians write books, and the extraordinary thing
is how they seek to recorrect history. I can go
through countless politicians books and blow them apart, page by page,
but I'm too busy doing a job for the taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Hey, when you finally retire, if that ever indeed happens,
yours would be a great read.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, here's the point. I ask yourself this. If you're
working with college and associates who are keeping private notes
at night, intending to write about the confidential conversations you
had in the day, during those days and during those
weeks of all the time you're working with them, would
you actually trust them?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Would you share with.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Them the conference if you knew they were writing a
book about it? Well, I don't think that that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
All right, Winston Peters, thanks for your time. I could
chat to you all day. I haven't got all day.
If there was a chapter on Winston Peter's people he
met at the Green Parrot. I think that would be
a good read. I thank you very much for your time.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Now, what did you throw that part for? The fact
is the Green Parrot is a barometer of this country.
A lot of these restaurants are closing down because so
much of the Willington planning as anti business and any car.
That's a local government issue, but it's also a local
government issue allowed by middling central government.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And we all love the Green Parrot, white buttered bread
and black sauce. You can't beat it. Whenston Peter's got
to go.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Thank you it cheers baxcuse me makes me feel alive.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It is twenty after twelve. You're with the country. Good value,
isn't he? Michelle Watt has wandered in here. Michelle, thank
you for the cup of tea. I did buy you
a coffee this morning.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Is very generous.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Well, no, no, and I just said my winter energy
payment coffee for you and Jane.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
It's very nice of you and we appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, even though Jane's fall is sicking and isn't here today.
Have you ever been to the Green Parrot? In Wellington.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
No, it's my life mission to do a visit to
Parliament and the Green Parrot and what's that other pub
as well that has all the puppets on.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The war is at the Green Parrot backbenches. Yeah, I
really want to go down one day, great great, great
pub right across the road from Parliament. Yeah, it's a
great although I must ad met we were up there
for the Help Me out Here National Lamb Day. Of
course we were broadcasting from there, and I must say
Central wellington's a shell of what it used to be
in the good old days when we were traveling up
(14:29):
there to do rugby commentaries. And my old mate Grant
is but I'm not name dropping because he's like a
business partner. He's a great fan. Hello Grant if you're listening.
He's a great fan of the Green Parrot himself. So
I've gone along there a few times with him and
you always see interesting people there, namely Winston. But it's
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like the best cafe here in Dunedin for Micah tables.
Well last time I went anyhow for Micah tables buttered
white bread and black sauce.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
You can't go past that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Takes a lot of beating. Up next, Jane Smith atop
a hill somewhere on her north Otago farm. It's the
only place I can get reception for her before the
end of the hour. Mike McIntyre out of Jarden on
last night's global dairy trade auction down one percent. Not
as bad as we were for the futures market. Was predicting, predicting,
(15:26):
But has Fonterra got away? Bit carried away with a
ten dollar opening shot? Will ask Mike and the balance
farm environment towards her on tonight in Wellington are they.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Yeah, they're at the Takina Wellington Convention Center, which I've
not as you heard of.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I have to look up with you. You know, that's
just across the road from Baba. Yeah, it's their Flash
New Convention Center. I don't know if they can afford it,
but it's agree. We're there last year for the Primary
Industry Awards. They're in the Flash New Conference Center in
christ Church next week. More about that next week, but
up next, that's Jane Smith on the country.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Account stars.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Slane Swinging Swing. You've heard from Winston Peters has another
high profile commentator on the country Jane Smith, north Otago
farmer of course, former winner of the Balanced Farm Environment Awards,
which are on tonight. Hey Jane, just before we get
into the issues of the day, an unscientific poll at
(16:29):
Field Days had Jane and Shane is my most popular correspondence.
That's of course you and the Prince of the Provinces.
Should I be worried?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Well, thank you, Jamie. That's almost a compliment, but I'll
take it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Jamie.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
I don't get many compliments around here, so thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is that all you've got to say.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
It's about it, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
I mean, I'm just really literally standing out in the
paddock every fortnight. I guess shooting from the Jamie, which
are not quite as articulous as Shane Jones, but I'm just, yeah,
I guess at grassroots messaging from the paddic.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, let's get some of that grass root messaging from
the paddock. You reckon, We should be and I'm totally
with you on this. In Winston also spoke about this,
we should be more worried about global warring rather than
global warming.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Oh absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
You know, as a trading nation we should be very concerned,
you know, in terms of the conflict that that's happening,
and we've spent spreend to spend quite too much time on,
you know, praying at the ultar of climate change in
terms of the Paris Agreement, and not enough time in
terms of actually looking at that conflict escalation that's happening.
So yeah, we should be very, very concerned. And but
(17:40):
again back here in Old New Zealand, we seem to
be apologizing for things that actually, in the biggest.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Scheme of things, are tiny and actually and actually we're
nailing anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Winston made a talent comment and he referred to where
we are in the world at the moment as the
sort of the stickiest, most dangerous time since the Cuban
missiles when Kennedy and khrush Chief were going head to
head in the early nineteen sixties. You were you weren't
even a twinkle in your father's eye back then, Jane.
But he's putting it into some sort of historic perspective,
(18:12):
and that is the.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Really concerning thing in terms of what that might mean
again for little Old New Zealand going forward. And so
that's why we need to be as resilient and as
robust in terms of our economy as we can but
instead we seem to be finding fifty ways.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
To hamstering our own economy.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
And you know, I saw, oh, the Green Party's unhinged policy,
fiscal policy or fiscal folly or what fister, if you
want to call it something else. It was lacking both
oxygen and a grasp of real wood reality. And you know,
the Greens has suddenly decided that debt is the way forward.
And I think that suggested something like one hundred and
(18:49):
twenty two percent of GDP would be perfectly fine to
chase for debt.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
And it's interesting.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
The same day I heard an interview with Chloe Swarbrick,
I heard one with Ruth Rich and it was chalk
and cheese, Jamie, you know, when she was talking about
dealing to the debt and deficit and cutting your cloth
and having balancing the box, Jamie, and it was really,
I don't know, it was just really cut throat and
exactly what we need. So and that said, I did
(19:15):
actually agree with some of the things that old Steve
Abel from the Green Party. I actually wondered whether you
should get him on your show, actually, Jamie, because actually
he's a reasonably sensible rooster amongst the socialist Henhouse and.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
The Green Party.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, well, Jane, you're referring to the Q and a
interview with Jack Tame, which I thought the whole show
was really good. I'm not quite sure whether we can
totally justify Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets in the
early nineteen nineties too hard, too fast. But anyhow, going
back to Steve Abel, disagree with literally everything he said
except for the bit about pine trees.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
Yeah, but I actually really liked how he talked about
the whole story around healthy nutrition by adversity, mosaic landscapes,
and the brutal truth is those are the time the
things that we should be promoting instead of actually, you know,
going cap in hands to the rest of the world
saying really really sorry about our mission profile. Actually that
(20:10):
the brutal truth is that actually we should have enough
courage to actually be proud of our omission's profile. The
fact that it's food producing and actually something like the
Paris Accord is actually essentially not relevant in that regard.
So you know, it's barely worth the paper it's written on,
yet it could be costing us billions of dollars and
perpetuity for a reversible land just change. And it's exactly
(20:32):
what Steve Abel was saying, not on the mission emission
side of things, but at the end of the day,
the pine tree.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Plantations are just the symptom of the bigger problem.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
And I know that the current coalition have announced, you know,
made their new announcement that was sort of trying to
make up for the impotent one that they made in
December last year, But in effect that's really just arranging
the dick chairs on the Titanic while the band plays on.
So actually we need to be really, really bold about
our pathway forward. So instead of you again spending so
(21:02):
much money. It's funny, isn't it, Jamie. We sent to
scrimp and save in so many areas, so health, education, infrastructure,
but when it comes to a missions reduction, it really
is there's money to swim in and there's a lot
of people set to make a lot of money from
methay mitigation, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And it's a pretty sad state of affairs that that's
the case.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I agree with you, we shouldn't be cutting any spending
at all on health. But the Green Party, you can't
take them seriously. They would be the death of farming,
a wealth tax and inheritance tax like the British farmers
are facing. Chloe said, we don't live on a monopoly
board land barons. That's people like you, Jane Smith, have
got to get out of jail free card.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Oh well I wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah again, but they certainly understand the chef and be
sector and the low one put sector, the hill and
the high country. And yet sure don't let them near
the checkbook. Absolutely not. But actually so I went back
to their roots, which the original founders of the Green
Party did they actually understand that, you know that we're
at a crossroads terms of that natural sustainable biodiversity, you
(22:02):
know the fact that we're food producing heroes and what's
happening in the moment. Of course, we've got the corporate
the corporate interference. You know, we've got Nile, which is
essentially a junk food company trying to tell us what
to do, and our I guess, our intensive side of
farming is really trying to turn us into a quasi
eu so actually forcing us into feed lots. So and
(22:24):
it's really sad that we've been told to be quiet
about this and actually that we can't have a upfront
debate of the country. We seem to be looking over
our shoulder and saying it's big brother watching. We better
be quieted at this. Actually, lets be really really honest
and say, actually we are different. Our emission's profile is different,
and we're really really proud of it because actually, instead
of a point of difference in terms of our resources,
(22:45):
we're actually made making it into a pointless difference.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Jamie, talking about emission's profiles, I think yours is going
to go up when you and Habby Blair chet off
to the Mediterranean perhaps this winter for a holiday, maybe
a yacht trip or the Mediterranean. Off the back of
selling an Angus ball last week, Jane for seventy one
thousand dollars. That's a lot of ball and a lot
(23:08):
of moolah.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
I'm not sure about that, Jamie, because I'm actually looking
at the bills on my desk that are waiting for
me at lunch time to pay, and they're fairly sizable
as well. But you know, we're just pleased that showed
the positivity, not singularly that ball and it's going to
a really great anger.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Start in the North Island.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
But actually the fact that she can be farmers are
now able to have some confidence and make some long
term decisions on their farming operations. So now we're pleased,
and our average didn't get too high.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Overall. I was just a good stable sale. And no, Jamie,
I won't be going to the Mediterranean. I'll be lucky
to make it to tour tat Pree if Blair's got
anything to.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
Do with it.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Wow, he's a Southland to through and through to a tap.
He's got a lovely golf course. It's a beautiful part
of New Zealand and Western Southland. Jane Smith, I'll let
you go. I know you've got a flat out afternoon
of farming in front of you. Thanks for some of
your time at lunchtime. Get those bills paid before.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You head out the door, Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Thank you, Jane. Yes, the unscientific poll at Field Days
had Jane and Shane as our favorite correspondence. Feel free
to drop us a text on five double nine and
tell us who's your favorite correspondent on the country. Gen
regular Texter has texted in, Hi, Jamie, I disagree. If
Russia was present and the Middle East, maybe another Cuban
(24:24):
missile crisis Yep, fair enough. I don't think we're quite
at doomsday like we were in nineteen sixty two. Hi, Jamie,
you forgot the mixed grill at the green parrot top
feet in the early house. That's from Graham, you bang on.
You can't beat it. Only a smattering with the mixed
grill of salad or vegetables, only a garnish. It was
(24:45):
meat and chips and eggs, all the all the food
group essentials. And here's one from Jared and christ Church.
Good o. Jamie couldn't agree more with Winston. Why on
earth are we considering the involvement in the Paris Accord?
It doesn't make economics sense for God's sake, says Jared.
Up Next, Michelle with rural news. We'll have a look
at sports news for you before the end of the hour.
(25:08):
Mike McIntyre on the GDT auction, and two judges at
tonight's Balance Farm Environment Awards, Warrett Hadow, Jamie Strange count
twenty three away from one. Here's Michelle with the latest
(25:29):
and rural news. And it's more good news from Zesper.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
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Speaker 7 (25:42):
That's right, Jamie, some great results for Zesprey. Zesbrey's indicative
forecast for the twenty twenty five twenty twenty sixth season
has the key fruit marketer on track to deliver strong
valley to growers in another record crop year than indicative
during twenty twenty five twenty twenty six OGR forecast. It
reflects a positive start to the season, with rangers narrowed
(26:03):
from the initial guidance provided a March twenty twenty five
Zesprey corporate net profit after tax including licensed revenue as
forecast to be two hundred and forty eight to two
hundred and fifty eight million, which is up from one
hundred and fifty five point two million last year. And
I was reading one hundred and ten million trays exported apparently,
which is insane. That's a lot of key we for it.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Well, I know you might want to relook at those
number of trays, Michelle. You might hundred and ten. We
might go a little bit more on that one. Let's
just see done. We'll come back to the number of
trays being exported. No one likes the corrector, but I'm
not sure that number is correct. You ever, we look,
We'll do sport.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Okay sport with AFCO. Visit them online at FCO dot
co dot nz.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I'll buy you a coffee if I'm wrong. The introduction
of a mixed team skof tournament format for the twenty
twenty eight A Los Angeles Olympics will struggle to lure
Lydia Cod Dame Lydia Co out of the Club US
with a full set of medals already in a bag.
The twenty eight year old has previously said Paris marked
her final games and the prospect of Ryan of joining
(27:10):
joining Ryan Fox has been put to Co ahead of
this week's PGA Championship. What a dynamic jew that duo.
They would be in the Pears and Crusader's boss Colin Mainsbridge,
will he be the new boss of Ends are claims
the franchise will need support from the council and community
to maximize hype around Saturday's Super Rugby final against the
Chiefs in christ Church. Not sure about that, Colin. I
(27:32):
think there's plenty of hype around the game.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm looking at christ Church deserves a new stadium. No
city deserves a new stadium more than christ Church. It's
going to be magnificent, but it's not good news for
us here in Dunedin. Anyhow, have you done your homework
on the I have.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
We're both we're both kind of right, really what I mean?
So the one hundred and ten million is what they've
shipped so far, two hundred million trays is what is
on the cart.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Well, I'm claiming victory there. Up next the Global Dairy
Trade Auction with Mike McIntyre from Jardin.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh take that money, Buddy Percy.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
In a past life he was the head of derivatives.
These days he's got a new job title. I wonder
if it came with a pay rise for Mike McIntyre
out of Jardin Head of Commodities. Which is the Is
that a promotion, mic or a relegation?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Good afternoon, Yeah, afternoon, Jammie.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Actually, I've never questioned it, but you know it's one
of these ones where changes as good as a holiday.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
As I say, well, head of Commodity sounds pretty cool
to me. Look, the Global Dairy Trade Auction last night
down one percent whole milk powder down two point one percent,
skim milk powder one point three butter and cheese. The
fats are sort of saving the day. And while this
wasn't a great result on the face of it, it
was a lot better than the futures market was picking.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Yeah, that's right. So the features were as were looking
at one stage as much as four percent of both
skim and homemook powder, and even the facts as you say,
we were forecasted to fall and in the case of
butter didn't. But from my side of things, you know,
the third one in a row now and we yet
to face the increase of volumes that come with this
time of the year. So I just wonder if it's
(29:13):
sort of given a buyers an excuse to set to
the sidelines like we've seen in the previous couple of years.
And just one cavet i'd give to that is obviously
that strategy has been unsuccessful. But you know, I think
they'll be looking at what's happened in New Zealand Cow
and pass your condition in great you know, in great condition.
You're seeing feed prices at record lows almost in regard
(29:34):
to the milk price, and then the weather, you know,
We've obviously had some decent rainfall at back end of
the season, which should sort of set thumers up pretty
nicely for the new year. So I'm wondering if, in
contrast to the previous two seasons, so thinking we're going
to have a good start to this year.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Was Fonterra a bit ambitious to come out with an
opening shot of ten dollars and not stick to the
mathematical midpoint of nine dollars fifty No.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
I think ten dollars was a fair reflection if we
were sitting in probably where we still remain sitting. I
think the eight dollars is what the buyers will be
seizing on. You know, they'll be sitting out there thinking
we're saying to themselves, you know what is voetier and
know that we don't, and so it may give them
a little bit of an excuse to sit back and
wait and see what volume comes once we get through
(30:19):
to the peaks. But at the same time, as I said,
you know that that strategy has been unsuccessful in the
previous two times, where we saw prices start to take
off and you know, buyers are jumping over themselves in
order to get volume on board. So you know, if
I was a buyer at these sort of levels, now,
I would certainly be cautious in terms of paying what
has in the past in record highs, but I'd certainly
(30:41):
be going along with with what you know, with what
ingredients I needed to continue my manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Let's have a look at homework power. China bought less,
but the Middle East brought more. Mind you, the Middle
East got a bit more money. Now that war is
brewing between Israel and Iran, oil prices are shooting up
a bit more disposable income, Mike, I.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Think so in you know, oil is spoken about has
been the chanic commodities, and so where oil goes is
in a more sustained fashion then the rest go. And
so we have seen in the past a strong correlation
between derrey'smodity prices and oil prices. I mean, this might
only be a temporary blip, although we've seen today post
to US clothes oil prices jump another five percent. So
(31:26):
you know, does that mean that Derry goes with it? Possibly?
Certainly the Chinese are key to us in terms of
homework powder. What I would note is that unusually the
Middle East brought a lot of butter this time as well,
so I'd say they were the reason for the prices
continuing to head higher. And you know, as I put
them on note, I think it's really important, as we've
(31:46):
done in the past couple of seasons, that why the
demand for homework powder comes out of China. It might
be a bit softer at this time of the year
because the demand's not there that we do, you know,
we meet all that demand in the creams and fat
market and send milk in that direction while the prices
are remaining at elevated levels.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
How much longer can butter and cheese the fats tofire logic? Logic,
let me try that again to fire gravity.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Yeah, I think through into Christmas. So it's difficult for
us at this time of year because our production won't
really ramp up until September, maybe even start of October.
So getting that product into market in the Northern Hemisphere
before Christmas is going to be a tough ask. But
as I said, any sort of milk at the margin,
that's certainly where you'd be putting it into the cream
streams and then sending it to the Norman Hemisphere as
(32:31):
quickly as possible. You know, it's just unfortunate that's you know,
their demand coincides with a low period in our in
our production. But you know, I think we should try
and obviously make the most of what's available to us.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Mike McIntyre out of Jardin. Thanks for your time. You're
into the predictions game, Chiefs or Crusaders. I'm hoping for
the cheats.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
Yeah, I'm saying, you know, I like you excitingly saw
a player. They got it, you know, Crusades, they're just
agreed for the last twenty years, haven't they. Sod be
great to see a new name.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
On the cup.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Absolutely, Thanks for their time.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Thanks Shemmy, A welcome back.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
To the country. Ten away from one. Some of your feedback.
Shane Jones best guest, best Jane Smith, worst Hipkins. I
don't know why you have him on the show. He
tells lies. Someone else says, go Jamie. I'm barracking for
the Chiefs even though they're not my team. Crusaders have
always pinched Northland's up and coming stars. They have too,
(33:29):
haven't you, Norm Berryman?
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Speaker 2 (34:16):
Mark everything that kills me makes me feel a lot ibn.
I've been losing sea.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Okay, wrapping the country today ahead of tonight's Balance Farm
Environment Awards in a flash place in Wellington. There are
a couple of long standing and iconic judges. I hope
I don't mind me calling them that. Warrick Kado nineteen
ninety five Young Farmer of the Year. Jamie Strang, You brilliant,
(34:48):
brilliant man. At seventy six years of age, you rode
across the Cook Strait. No time to talk about that.
Who's going to win tonight? I'll start with you, Warick,
a farmer. Yeah, well that's good answer. Well you've got
to play the Fifth Amendment on that one because you
guys are judges. But you've got a very strong field.
And Warwick, I know you were nineteen ninety five Young
(35:09):
Farmer of the Yeir, but I was just because I
used to MC the Balance Farm Environment Awards and I said,
look i'm getting stale and I got out before they
sacked me. But I remember the first year we had
an outright winner, because that was my beef with it.
We had all these presentations but not an outright winner,
and it's an old mate of mine from South and
Grant and Bernie Weller won it. They beat Steve Wan Harris,
(35:30):
Steve and Jane and Steve's never forgiven them for that.
Jane and Blair Smith. So that was twenty eleven. They
were twenty twelve, Craig and Rose Mackenzie really good arable
farmers in mid Cantery, just to name a few. So
we've got a rich history.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Warwick, Yes, certainly much like young farmers, but the caliber
is just grown and grown over the years, and that's
one of the things that makes the task each you
harder and harder and harder, so to work out who
it is. But the one thing they all have in common, Jamie,
they have an emotional connection to the land. And it's
Jamie or test too. It's not unusual to have a
(36:06):
farmer or a grow with a few tiers and that
shows you how connected they are emotionally to their land.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, that's a bit like me on the golf course.
I shared a few tears as well. Not even emotionally connected,
Jamie Strang. We've got a twenty seven year old representing
Whitcatto or the White Caado region this year.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yeah, it's only a short time ago, maybe ten years ago, Jamie,
that we thought, well, some people thought we might be
running out of entrance to these awards, but it's the opposite.
We've got more and better people coming forward and now
we've got twenty seven year old and no, I think
it's the first time we had someone under thirty. And
that's a new generation coming through, which has to be
a good thought for the future, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, Warek, when does this sit in terms of farming awards?
We've got the Primary Industry Awards and christ Church next week.
These tonight. I think these are right up there.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Well, I've just walked out of the room where Minister
paired it. So then hog At are speaking and their
quote was that this would be the Pinnacle Primary Industry
Awards and I'd agree with that, and particularly because it's
pen sector you mean across sectors, cross sector. Yep, yep, same,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You had me confused to weave it with your Young
Farmer of the Year knowledge there. Okay, final word to you,
Jamie Strong. Are you stepping aside as a judge?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Yep, tim has come.
Speaker 10 (37:26):
I've been involved with the FAMI, I would always at
two thousand and one, and I've been a national judge
of work for a long time. But yeah, other things
to do, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Don't really want to see beside, but I think it's
time to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, you've got to know when your time's up. As
I did. I got out before I got pushed and
unfortunately for the Balanced Farm Environment Awards, they were desperate,
desperate after I left them, and they got Graham Smith
to be the MC. So anyhow they saw light eventually.
I'm not sure who's MCing tonight. It's going to be
a great night. We will be speaking to the oneers
(38:00):
on tomorrow's show. We'll catch you then burn.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Down this river.
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Everton Hope is for let her work, make.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
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