July 15, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Todd McClay, Andrew Murray, Jack Fagan, and Jim Hopkins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Good a New Zealand. Good afternoon, New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is the Country. It's brought to you by Brent
eighties Bangers Today Blame Michelle. Going to kick the show
off with the Prime Minister. Christopher Luxen caught up with
him earlier this morning, asked him if he was going
to hang the Tasman Nelson region out to dry. Can
they keep funding flooded homes and farms? Are we discussed
(00:56):
that Cracks appearing in the coalition and is he adamant?
And he is adamant. Should I say that we should
not be pulling out of the Paris agreement? Todd McLay,
I think is going to be on shortly as well.
We're just waiting to confirm that one. They've made an
announcement just recently, within the last hour or so about
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another six hundred thousand dollars for the flood affected farmers,
growers and foresters. He is, of course the Minister of
Agriculture and Forestry. Andrew Murray from Fonterra, Chief Financial officer,
good Global dairy trade auction overnight up one point one percent,
olmert powder up one point seven percent. We'll ask him
(01:41):
whether this locks in the ten dollar payment for this season.
I know it's early days. Jack Fagan also earlier this morning,
I caught up with him, one half of New Zealand's
sharing team, ahead of the Welsh Test Series starting on Saturday.
And this follows on from a loss to Scotland anchored
by a key by the way, and wins against England
(02:02):
and France. We missed him yesterday but we always get
our man. Jim Hopkins on the politics of water and
why you farmers are paying so much in rates. It's
all on the country. We're going to kick it off
at the PM touch Wednesdays on the Country. The PM
(02:30):
kicks off the show. I hope he enjoyed his week's
break because they only think he has two weeks holiday
for the entire year. Keep working hard, Prime Minister. The
country desperately needs it. Hey listen, you said the government
won't be able to keep on bailing out flooded homeowners.
Where do you draw a line in the sand and
will the Tasman district be hung out to dry?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Absolutely not. I mean on the Tasman I just have
to commend everyone's efforts down there because they've had a
brutal two week period or three week period really with
two big weather events coming through there. I've spoken to
both mayors are Nick Smith and also Tim King. It's
particularly in Tasman and it's particularly in some of the
areas around apple hops and a little.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Bit of forestry as well.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So you know, we'll continue to work with them, and
we've worked exceptingly well with that. The response to the
disaster I think has been very very good. Now we
move into the recovery phase and you know we make
an assessment to see where things are at and what
other supports needed. Tom mcclay's got an announcement coming up
to the.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Bit more about that.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But the bigger point I was making was that you know,
there's been a report recently just come through that says, look,
in twenty years from now, we just can't afford for
a government to keep bailing out and underwriting houses getting
written off, and that's an issue about what's called climbate
adaptation is like, how do we a build back much
more resilient infrastructure when roads and slips happen. You know,
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we're working really hard on that to make sure it's
much more it's tough and more resilient sort of infrastructure
that we've got, But when you look down the road,
you can't have people building in flood zones. You can't
obviously have you know what with the responsibility of council,
central government, the land owner themselves, the banks, insurers, how
do we get a framework in place that sort of
says that these things are going to keep happening. How
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are we going to manage them in terms of the
recovery side and the compensation side and actually where we
actually build back infrastructure. How do we think about that.
Every country around the world is wrestling with us, Jamie.
I've spoken to other world leaders about it, and you
know that's why we've got a multi party bipart as
an approach to this, because you know, under successive governments
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in the future of different colors, you know that's going
to be an issue for everybody. So it's a New
Zealand issry. It's not a political.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Issue, so we've got to work our way through that.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
We don't have the answers.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yet, but it's pretty it's obvious that.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
We're not going to be able to afford to do it,
or if it's one hundred percent on government, we're gonna
have to think about how we manage that risk better.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And hopefully Todd McKay very shortly on those Tasman flood announcements.
Right A headline in the Herald yesterday cracks in the coalition.
There's Deputy Dave now the naughty boy and who would
have thought Prime Minister that Winston Peters would get the
prize for best behave pupil.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Now we've got a great coalition. Think about what we've
done for your sec deal. I mean you've got dairy meat,
Hord of Culture, forestry, seafood, all company pumping, which is fantastic.
Now we've got a great coalition and I you know,
we're proud.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
But yeah, we had a process issue.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
David as on the letter that he sent to the
UN and Winston is coordinating a government response because it's
four or five issues raised in that letter. You know
that he will coordinate him and send out in due course.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So that's all that was.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, but Seymour was exactly right. Pius sold you in
lecturing us here in New Zealand got on Seymour for
sending off a missive We.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Don't disagree with the substance of that. I think you'd
find all of government in Winston, myself and David would
have very similar views around other substance and the content
of what we received. But the point is, you know,
the process is that you know, Winston Peters, as our
Foreign Affairs minister, is the right person to coordinate our
response to those to that letter, and he'll do a
great job doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So it's Winston's job to tell the un to go
and stick it up there where the sun doesn't shine. Anyhow, Radio,
Winston's standing as a statesman seems to be growing by
the day. In that latest taxpayer Union Curier poll which
came out while you were away, hashim ahead of the
Greens and Act and the Greens for the first time.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I think he's done an exceptional job. I think you
know he's out and about in the world between himself, myself,
Todd McLay, Judith Collins, the four of us are trying
to lift with great urgency the intensity and the quality
of our relationships with international countries and partners. And he's
hugely respected across the world. He's hugually our huge adenerration
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for what he does in the foreign affairs space for
New Zealand, and we should be grateful that he's out
there doing the business.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You know, you compare and contrast.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
What's happened in our eighteen months versus the previous six years.
We're essentially no one went traveling from New Zealand, and
we had a Foreign Affairs Minister that didn't want to
go to foreign a feirs essentially, and the whole place
shut down and we lost a huge amount of influence.
And you know, now we're building back our influence very strongly.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Just talking of Winston, Federated Farmers is joining other major
industry good bodies such as darian Z Beef and LAMB
New Zealand and not advocating for the government to withdraw
from the Paris Agreement. Now here's the question for your
Prime Minister. Do all the members of the coalition support
the stance?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Coalition government position is really clear, Yeah, absolutely clear. We
all believe that's why we've you know, it's our position
of the government. I mean, it's a cabinet. We make
those funny calls and we have good COMversations in cabinet,
but you know, there's no doubt about it. The government position.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Sorry, it's pretty simple because you know, as I said
before and I said at Field Days, you know, look,
we're going hard on economic growth. We're not putting farming
at risk. We're not going to punish our farmers. We're
not going to shut farms down. And frankly, it wasn't
Paris that did the damage to farmers. Farmers, it was
labor that did the damage to farmers. Be really clear
about that. Next, as I said before, I can tell
you our global competitors, countries that sell similar products to
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US and international multinational corporations to be consumer goods companies,
they would look, you know, they'll.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Kick us out in the heartbeat if you exit a Paris.
So let's be clear.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
There's I think Yemen, Libya, one other country, and now
the US. But you've got the American governors of states
are very committed to itself and acting on.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Its Libya, Yemen, Eritrea and South Sa'dan and the United States.
Let's not forget about the United States under Trump anyhow,
that's another discussion for another day. Prime Minister, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Great to be with you, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Fifteen after twelve. Yes, recorded earlier this morning when the
PM was available. I neglected actually in that list to
mention Iran. So the full list is Libya, Yemen, Iran, Eritrea,
South Sadan and the Trump st So there you go.
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think he's there because he's just announced six hundred thousand
dollars flood relief package. The Minister of Agriculture and Forestry,
Todd McLay Maello Eighties bangers today on the country twenty
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after twelve. We're heading to Nelson or the Nelson Tasman region.
He's on the ground there, the Minister of Agriculture and Forestry,
Todd McLay and Todd you were probably a child of
the eighties. Do you remember Blue Monday by New.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Order Jamie how I do you remember that? A child
of the eighties who probably used to listen to that
song in a pub long before he was allowed to.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, well, I was a child of the seventies, Todden
were Actually I'm sure. I think when we was drinking,
age was twenty when I went to the university, so
I was illegally drinking for the first year.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Anyhow, that I think the point I was making is
a drinking age is twenty when I was at high school.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
All right, at high school. Right, Let's move on to
six hundred thousand dollars all up in support package announced
today for flood affected farmers, growers and foresters.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, well, Jamie, I'm here on the ground, as you said,
in the nowncent Townshend area, having a look at what
can only really be described as devastation from these big
weather and wind events over the last couple of weeks.
You know, this is a fact area where the farmers
event had hard You know that's a week after a
week and it's dragging on. So with industry bodies, we're
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going to make an announcement of six hundred thousand dollars
support that will guard help.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Hopes.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Where have you gone, Todd? Hello, Todd? Do we have
comms with Todd McLay? Have we got you? You need
to stand on top of one of those hills in
the Tasman region. Can you hear me, Jamie, I've got
you now, So yeah, where you go?
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Hell over here? Stop anyway? Sorry about that, I'm saying.
So six hundred thousand dollars that will help on the ground.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Right now we've got a lot of officials and others
here that are working out where the damages and what
supporters needed. But look, the indications are there's going to
be more events in the coming weeks. So the message
really is to farmers and Forrest says, to be very
careful about what you're doing, you know, clean up rubbish
to get out of the way. But we're going to
be prepared for more bad weather.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
As you know. I've spoken to the Prime Minister earlier
this morning. We've already played that interview, but he did
make the point of saying yesterday that we can't bail
out our homeowner's business owner as farmers, foresters, growers forever
because we're just going to run out of money, that's right.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
So the funding that we've announced is not to go
in and help each of them directly, but certainly there's
going to be some work that's needed straight away. We've
had about two hundred landowners of farmers reach out to us.
At the moment, we know there's many many more out
there that will need assistance. Some of those are some
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of those areas the farm's probably not usable anymore. There'll
be differing amounts of damage. But ultimately we put some
money into the Mayor's you know, relief fund, and we're
partnering with Federated Farmers and also HOUGHT New Zealanders also
put some money up to get into some of the
most affected people and get them support and a bit
of help they need. And in some cases there'll be there'll
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be diggers and bulldozers going and to help clean up
really really quickly, and you know, there's going to be
a lot of work to do around here, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yep. So of the six hundred thousand, half a million's
come from the government, fifty from feeds and fifty k
from horticulture New Zealand. And it would appear on the
face of it for those of us who haven't been
there like you are today, that perhaps horticulture has been
the hardest hut.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, that's right. I've just been how long. I had
a look at our hops orchard where, although it's the
off season, what was you know, probably described as a
large stream has moved two or three hundred meters and
more across into the land in the middle of where
they're grown their hops. And it's a great, big, raging,
bloody river now. And so you are right, Hawt's been
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hit pretty heavily. I tell you what though, I had
a chance to jumping a helicopter to have a look
at the area. Forest She's probably lost four to five
thousand hectares. And this is wind damage where trees have
been uprooted and just lying there, spread right across the
region at quite a cost to them. And so I'm
going to say the forestry sector of pitching in there
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are many land owners that have problems, have lost their
own trees or silt and so on. As they're cleaning
up for themselves, are going and helping others. That really
is the community, the wider community puting in together.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, four or five thousand hectares of forestry loss, that's
that's a huge number. And that all I think happened
in the second event when the wind got up.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yeah, that's right. I tell you that the thing that
is so pleasingly. Surprisingly surprising though, is that there isn't
a lot of damage from that where trees have come
out our whole trees, often with roots are still on them.
There's not a lot of evidence of slash or other
type of material coming down. And look, I put that
down to a couple of things the forestry practice here
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along with the rules that the councilor set. The council
have been really smart about this working with a sect.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
They haven't.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
We got good rules to stop sort of damage, but
not just put cost upon them. But there's also examples
where farmers have had small blocks of trees that have
been devastated. They won't have the ability or money to
get those trees off their land and get anything from them.
Because you know there's going to be you know, every
festy conferct is going to be working with the big
guys the forestry sector today, the big or the big
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companies gave me a commitment today that where farmers need help,
do'll actually send their workers into help clean the trees
up and you know, work through that so they're not
sitting there wondering about what they're going to do with their
farms where they've got but hey would sitting on the
ground as well.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I just got a text and from Laurie Patterson, who
you know well from Groundswell, always a practical man. He said,
tell Todd to hire a couple of de six bulldozers
and start bulldozing the gravel out of the rivers. And
we talked to Damian O'Connor about this one on yesterday's
show and it would appear to me that would be
a good start to help farmers and growers and foresters.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I don't agree with everything Laurie says, as you'll know,
but actually I think he's right in this area. There
is a bit of work that we have underway for
the last short period of time, having a little look
at the rim May and how it doesn't allow us
to do things around waterways. Now I'm not the RMA minister,
but look it's as straightforward as this. If you are
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not allowed to build, you know, stock banks or clean
up waterways, you're going to have more events like this.
And years ago farmers who were a sponsor, he's about
to take your aggregate, you know, out of out of
the rivers, and the rivers were throwing clearly the flow clearly,
you know, and build stock banks. You can't anymore. It's
no wonder we're having such devastation. So Christmas it's having
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a really good look at this. It's not so straightforward
to say do what you want, but we shouldn't be
saying you can't do anything at all.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Okay, Todd maclay, thanks for some of your time on
the ground in the Tasman Nelson region and thanks for
tipping in between you FEDS and hort New Zealand six
hundred grand to help with the cleanup. Thanks Samie, Minister
of Agriculture and Forestry. For the purposes of this conversation,
we didn't bother mentioning as trade portfolio talking about ground swell.
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Here's one from Glenn a text coming in. Send us
a text on five o nine, Jamie, when are you
going to give your mate Bryce an uppercut? I'm assuming
he means Bryce McKenzie, not Bryce Lawrence. Well, I wouldn't
mind giving Bryce Lawrence an uppercut on occasions knock some
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sense into him. Hello, Bryce, if you're listening, I've got
to stop picking on you. So when you're going to
give you mate, Bryce, we're assuming it's mackenzie an uppercut
over his misinformation about Paris. The PM just told us
the truth. Leaving Paris will make all of us farmers
FORR by about two dollars a kilogram. I reckon, and
I'm assuming Glenn is talking about her milk solids there.
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I've heard the number three dollars the kilogram of milk solids.
I'm not sure I agree with it, but maybe I'm
not smart enough to do the math on that one.
Talking about milk solids. Good global dairy trade auction overnight.
We're going to catch up with Andrew Murray Fonterra's CFO
have a look at that Global dairy Trade auction overnight
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before the end of the hour. Earlier this morning I
caught up with Jack Fagan. He's about to head into
it sharing test match along with Tyler Henderson against Wales.
I've lost to Scotland, I've won against England and France
and Jim Hopkins on the politics of water. This was
(19:24):
a good news result overnight. The latest Global dairy trade
auction up one point one percent, Pole mirk powder one
point seven percent, skim milk powder two point five percent.
Tell us a bit more from Fonterra CFO Chief Financial
Officer Andrew Murray. And Andrew I had other pundits on
the show yesterday suggesting the result would be flat to
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down one percent. So we'll take this we.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Cent in the world. Demmy, yep, it's nice there. As
he go up a little bit after four in the rule,
I think it was that we were done.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So Andrew Murray, let's have a look at where the
buying interests came from overnight.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Look, I think as we've seen the prices moderate a
little bit over the past few options, we certainly see
demand supported well in China and also in socialcesia, like
you know, gett into this sort of price levels where
the demand becomes pretty strong. So actually a really good
spread geographically.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
A whole mark powder, as I said, one point seven percent.
What was behind skim milk powder, star of the show
last night up two point five percent.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Yeah, well, actually it's interesting, I think, you know, sort
of look at it compared to the US prices, but
I think, to be honest, it's just it's been down
a little bit and so we're starting to see that
leading demand really come back through very strongly socialczia actually
as well through in skim so I think, you know,
if prices really are that's just encouraging valuers to come
back into the market.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Butter, no change at all. Cheese down five point six percent.
There might be a few people listening to the show
domestically who think that's a good news story.
Speaker 10 (20:54):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I mean I think you know, Butter,
you know, it's it's sort of settled to you it is.
And certainly if you look at you know, New Zealand origin,
it's still a lot less than your being in Europe.
So you know, I think that will put a bit
of a floor on a butter prices for a while.
I think, you know, you look at Cheddar, yes down
and you know, I think the US and the EU
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prices they're also easy as well, so not unsurprising. I
guess that there's a little bit of movement downwards onig
in Cheddar. But yeah, that's off the back of the global.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Space twenty five twenty sixth season is really about to
get underway. Carving just getting underway, and parts of the
North Island now so air production. We still have no
idea for the season. But in terms of Northern Hemisphere,
what are you saying there?
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Look, it's interesting. I mean, it is very hot over
there at the moment. That doesn't seem to be actually
impacting production at the moment. So Europe's up, the US
is up, and Latin America actually are up as well,
so you know, globally there certainly still you know, production
is growing for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Ten dollars is where you sit at the moment. You've
got a huge price range from eight dollars to eleven dollars,
so on these numbers, I mean there was talk last
or a couple of weeks ago that the ten dollars
might be under threat. This might make dairy farmers Andrew
Murray's sleep awey bit easier at night as they head
into the new season.
Speaker 10 (22:15):
I mean, there's still a lot of uncertainty, I think
is the best wade to put it. So you know,
we did put that sort of larger arrange out there,
and just to reflect that. I mean, you know, we're
still not really sure what talents look like. I think,
you know, we think there's an answer and then it
changes a little bit. You know, you look at the focus,
I guess, you know, moving a bit from Iran, Israel,
you know, Russia, Ukraine definitely back on there, so you
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sort of look at those and you're like, yes, there's
still a lot of uncertainty, which is open. We're pretty
comfortable that a arranger and actually a forecast of ten
dollars is certainly reflective of what we're seeing, but again,
just conscious there's still a lot of other risks.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
That sits the round.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, Andrew Murray out of Fontira, Thanks for your time.
A good global dairy trade action overnight tad.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Cheers any thank you?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That is twenty five away from one this screen's eighties,
doesn't it. Michelle's done a good job here. You spin
me round like a record, dead or alive. Keep the
feedback coming in On the text line, Jamie, why has
Molesworth Station manager Jim Ward James as we used to
call him at school, suddenly quit question mark question mark
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question mark disagreement with the woke direction the corporate arm
of Palmer was taking question mark question mark question mark
from the text I don't know. Michelle told me about
this one not more than half an hour ago. Jim
Ward is resigned running from running the country's biggest farm,
Molesworth Station. He's a good bloke, as I said, I
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went to school with him doing a great job there.
I don't know if he's speaking at the moment. I
might try and get him on the show The Old
Schoolmate Connection. Eh, Jim, if you're listening, give me a
ring and tell me why you quit Interesting times. And
here's a good news story just before we go to
rural news and and sports use the government abandons open
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plan classrooms amid learning concerns. Look, this is a bit
like hot desking and corporate officers. Grumpy boomers like myself
demand their own office, so it doesn't affect me. But honestly,
what a waste of time open plan learning. All it
did is create more noise and distract the kids. We're
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spinning right around. Maybe we're going three sixty or one
eighty on this and going back to where we should
be going. You feedback on five, double nine. Up next,
Michelle with the latest and rural News. Nothing. Nothing says
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more or screams eighties more than Rick Astley. Maybe Madonna
with the tail one, but definitely Rick Asley for me, Michelle,
good afternoon. Yes you've come up with some bangers in
the eighties.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I love the eighties. I'm a big fan. I don't
know why I think it's just maybe it's memories. I
was fairly young, like Todd McLay though in the eighties,
so no.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Right, you were a bit quiet. I turned my headphones
up and then I haven't got an inside voice of
blown my own ears out. What's left for them? Misspent
youth on the end of a chainsaw. It's quite handy
at home though, being half death. I've discovered that Michelle
here or.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
You might start getting some text from them.
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Can't wait for the British Golf Open, or they call
it the Open these days, Scottish Scheffler's questioned his future
and professional golf, as I do every Saturday at about
five o'clock when I get into the clubhouse, after admitting
winning has left him with little fulfillment. You don't know
how lucky you are. Scotty, the world number one, has
left gathered media astonished on the eve of the Open
(26:49):
Championship at Royal Port Rush with a five minute, unprompted
dive into life at the top of the sport. I'll
put a sly wee ten dollars and I'm not a
big punter on Rory. He's paying eight dollars. I think
Scott's about four or five or six or something like that.
So hopefully Rory can get the business done. And my
other favorite Bryson Deshambo, who knows how he'll go. And
(27:12):
I've got some money on Ryan Fox paying good money too.
And the big sports story of the day though is tonight,
and I think it's going to be on quite late.
I'm thinking of buying the fight, but I don't want
to fall to sleep when it's happening. Sonny Bill Williams
versus Paul Gallon.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
He's interesting, isn't it, because we're just talking about their ages.
And actually a lot of those heavyweights did go quite
long into their careers, like George Foreman and the rest,
and didn't they like.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Forty Mike Tyson. Some of them went for far too long.
But anyhow, it's going to be a good scrap. They
don't like each other. More about that on tomorrow's show
with our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell. Up next, it is
Jack Fagan in the UK. Caught up with him earlier
this morning.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Happen.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Normally when we talk about greats from Tekuwedi, we talk
about Sir Colin Meads or Sir David Fagan. But here's
someone who's certainly making his name on the international stage,
son of It's not Glynn Meads, No, it's Jack Fagan
who's over there representing New Zealand in the Test Series
against the likes of Scotland, England, France and Wales. Coming up.
(28:24):
Jack Fagan referring to Colin Meads, this is a bit
like a Grand Slam rugby tour for you and Tower Henderson.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yeah it is, Jamie.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
We're on a pretty good form at the moment and
really looking forward to getting down into Wales.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, let's talk about last weekend Tower Henderson claiming his
first big success in the Northern Hemisphere. He had a
great season in the New Zealand sharing season and winning
both the big main titles. But he won the French
Championship and you were second, and then you cleaned up
the French in the Test Series.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Yeah, we had a pretty special trip to France. Were
absolutely incredible in the final. It was about as good
as he could go. And yeah, we trumped the French
by eleven points in the Test which was which was
quite quite a big win to be honest, that's that'd
be like winning in rugby. But I sort of eighty
points to ten, so yeah, we trumped them well in
(29:17):
that and I come away with the win at the
speech here and it's yeah, sure it was not as
cool for me getting secked in to tour, but I
know every time that he beats me, I'm only getting stronger.
So we're really competitive as a team. But when we
get to that individual final, it's all on.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Hey is the big money in the speed share like
there is here in New Zealand.
Speaker 12 (29:36):
No, not at all. It's a bit more fun over here.
It was only one hundred and fifty euro to win
that one, but it was pretty special on a back
of a trailer and sort of boosack the little village
and all the townfolk come out and watch you share
and have have a pretty good night along with it.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So you've had a loss against Scotland which was anchored
by a kiwe Gavin much, you've had wins over England
and France, and as I said, you're going to this
weekend the first of your tests. I think against Wales,
what difference is there in the sheep, for instance, what
I'm assuming and the Scottish sheep will be quite different
(30:13):
to a New Zealand cross bread.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
So that the Scottish sheep be sure with blackies you.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Can look them up on Google, but they're a bit
more like a mountain goat with big horns. And I've
said it before that there's some of the wildest, most
vicious sheep you can share. If they had win, I
think they would make it to Greenland for a quick
stop before heading on their way to the.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
North tole there. They've got a lot of energy.
Speaker 12 (30:37):
But that the Walsh sheep we're going to be sharing
it will all be Lambs, and what's unique about them
is there's probably six different breeds of Welsh lambs will
be sharing with the Welsh Mountain lambs would be probably
a little bit more tricky with the wall type and
the type of skin they have. You have to use
ready special combs on them, and tour hasn't shown them before.
But he is by far the most adaptable sharer on
(31:00):
the circuit at the moment, so I've got big hopes
for him and him and himself to do well.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
For sure, you.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Hardly get any time to acclimatize to the different breeds.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
No, not really, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I'm lucky.
Speaker 12 (31:14):
I've been over here now for fifteen years. Ever since
I could share. So I've got really good knowledge of
the gear and the sheep and what to use in
these competitions and I'm trying to help Tour out as
much as i can when it comes to these tests
so we can hit the ground running. But yeah, there's
not much downtime at all. We pretty much landed off
the plane into work and then straight into competition.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
So it's been good fun so far.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, as I said, a lost to Scotland, wins over
England and France. What a whale's going to be like?
Who are their stars?
Speaker 12 (31:44):
So Keeth and Lewis He set a two stand British
record the other day. He also claimed a solo ad
our you British record, so he's arguably the strongest Welsh
sharer on form at the moment and his teammate in
the first test will be Clear Jones. He had the
sailed record attempt just out of Mastered and back in December,
(32:04):
so another really strong sharer. And then there's the potential
for an entirely new Welsh team for.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
The last two tests.
Speaker 12 (32:12):
As we head into the Royal Welsh we'll find out
who will become the Championship of Wales and win the
Welsh Sharing circuit, so it could be the same two shares,
but there's also a chance we could have a new team.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
But yet it's going to be a hell of a battle.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
They're certainly specialists on their own sheep.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Is it straight home for you after the Welsh Test Series?
Back to the Teco Edi Dairy Farm and sharing here
in New Zealand. Are you staying over for the rest
of their season.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
I'll stay over for another couple of weeks. There's a
few good shows on Wales the week after our Test
tour and I want to go and hit them in
preparation for World Champs twenty nine. I'm always trying to
get more combs coming down and just practicing on the lambs,
and then the last competition heading over to Ireland up
to Donnie Gaul and we've got a big show there
which will be our grand finale for the season, before
(32:59):
coming back home a couple of weeks and then heading
to Western Australia.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Well, Jack Fagan, it's late in the evening your time.
I know you've got to get to bed, get up
early and get some sharing and thanks for some of
your time. You and Toy Henderson are doing us proud
on the other side of the world. No worries to dammy,
wake me up before you go go bedtime for Jack
on the other side of the world. Up next, we
wrap it with Jim Hopkins. Kevin help us local body
(33:27):
elections are coming up in October. Jim Hopkins joins us
from the Principality of Oamaru. Of course he's on the
Waitaki District Council. Jim, I assume you're standing again. Is
it too early or would it be rude and presumptuous
of me to say vote Hopkins?
Speaker 6 (33:44):
No, I would nothing, so thank you. If you believe it,
then you should say it's the case with everything. Yes,
I am saying again and hello Jamie, welcome greeting salutations
from the principality.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yes, yes, Now I want to talk to you today
about water politics, but more importantly the politics of water
three waters was we plainly didn't get it right. But
as the replacement is the cure worse than the disease
Because we're looking at all these local bodies, especially some
of the smaller ones around the country, the rural ones,
and they have got horrendous double digit rate increases because
(34:21):
central government is kind of lumped water on them without
much assistance. Am I oversimplifying that?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yes, I think you are. There is truth in that.
But equally, at the moment, councilors have the opportunity to
sort of look at how they will deliver supply of
water in future and say, you suggested the cure was
worse than the disease. In other words, local water done well,
(34:48):
which is the coalition government solution, is worse than three Waters,
which was the Nanaya Mohota's approach. I don't think that's correct.
I think the Three Waters of approach involved nationalization of assets,
essentially just taking them over initially to go into four
companies nationwide and then latterly twelve. The new solution sort
(35:11):
of says, hey, counsels get together, have a chat, talk
to each other, and come up with us with solutions
of or work in your area and look for the
cheapest possible options that are available to you. So it
all sounds very nice and very democratic and very egalitarian.
(35:32):
But the new government is as determined as label was
to actually get some water reforms initiated. And so basically,
if you come up with an idea which you have
to actually then send to Wellington by September this year
and Wellington Cancer or the Department of Internal Affairs can say, oh, yes,
(35:53):
that's a wonderful idea.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
You carry on what terrific three tiers. Or they can
say no, we don't like that. You go away and
try again. And if in fact a council goes away,
tries again and Department of Internal Affairs still doesn't like it,
then they the department can say, right, this is what
you're going to do.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Can I just finish on another thing, perhaps politics on
a national scale, Because I know you're a keen observer.
Are you seeing like I am? A renaissance in Winston
Peter's political career and that of his henchman, loyal henchman
Shane Jones. I just think they're scratching an itch with
a lot of New Zealanders now and in the latest
(36:35):
Taxpayers Union Curier poll, I note that New Zealand First
beat the Greens and Act and the Greens for the
first time.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Yes, I noticed that as well.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
My view is that in the first New Zealand First
is probably benefiting as much from Shane Jones' positions on
various things as from Winston's. I noticed that the person
on the party.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Who'd been saying the most in the period immediately before
while while that Textpayer's Union poll was being conducted, who
was actually most vocal was Shane Jones. So the question
really is is he the person who's having a positive
effect in terms of New Zealand first popularity. I think
(37:20):
he's saying things that there isn't sort of a silent
majority appetite.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Here, Jim Hopkins, thanks for a time. I'm out of
time at that end. Yes, listen, that's got it. I
know you're a busy man. You're about to do a
white Stone Cheese tour. Good luck with that one. Great
to catch up. And I guess Shane Jones on his
campaign trail as bad news for snails, lizards, skinks and
especially blind frogs. Indeed, hey Jim, take care mate. Likewise,
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Good a New Zealand. Good afternoon, New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is the Country. It's brought to you by Brent
eighties Bangers Today Blame Michelle. Going to kick the show
off with the Prime Minister. Christopher Luxen caught up with
him earlier this morning, asked him if he was going
to hang the Tasman Nelson region out to dry. Can
they keep funding flooded homes and farms? Are we discussed
(00:56):
that Cracks appearing in the coalition and is he adamant?
And he is adamant. Should I say that we should
not be pulling out of the Paris agreement? Todd McLay,
I think is going to be on shortly as well.
We're just waiting to confirm that one. They've made an
announcement just recently, within the last hour or so about
(01:19):
another six hundred thousand dollars for the flood affected farmers,
growers and foresters. He is, of course the Minister of
Agriculture and Forestry. Andrew Murray from Fonterra, Chief Financial officer,
good Global dairy trade auction overnight up one point one percent,
olmert powder up one point seven percent. We'll ask him
(01:41):
whether this locks in the ten dollar payment for this season.
I know it's early days. Jack Fagan also earlier this morning,
I caught up with him, one half of New Zealand's
sharing team, ahead of the Welsh Test Series starting on Saturday.
And this follows on from a loss to Scotland anchored
by a key by the way, and wins against England
(02:02):
and France. We missed him yesterday but we always get
our man. Jim Hopkins on the politics of water and
why you farmers are paying so much in rates. It's
all on the country. We're going to kick it off
at the PM touch Wednesdays on the Country. The PM
(02:30):
kicks off the show. I hope he enjoyed his week's
break because they only think he has two weeks holiday
for the entire year. Keep working hard, Prime Minister. The
country desperately needs it. Hey listen, you said the government
won't be able to keep on bailing out flooded homeowners.
Where do you draw a line in the sand and
will the Tasman district be hung out to dry?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Absolutely not. I mean on the Tasman I just have
to commend everyone's efforts down there because they've had a
brutal two week period or three week period really with
two big weather events coming through there. I've spoken to
both mayors are Nick Smith and also Tim King. It's
particularly in Tasman and it's particularly in some of the
areas around apple hops and a little.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Bit of forestry as well.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So you know, we'll continue to work with them, and
we've worked exceptingly well with that. The response to the
disaster I think has been very very good. Now we
move into the recovery phase and you know we make
an assessment to see where things are at and what
other supports needed. Tom mcclay's got an announcement coming up
to the.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Bit more about that.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But the bigger point I was making was that you know,
there's been a report recently just come through that says, look,
in twenty years from now, we just can't afford for
a government to keep bailing out and underwriting houses getting
written off, and that's an issue about what's called climbate
adaptation is like, how do we a build back much
more resilient infrastructure when roads and slips happen. You know,
(03:48):
we're working really hard on that to make sure it's
much more it's tough and more resilient sort of infrastructure
that we've got, But when you look down the road,
you can't have people building in flood zones. You can't
obviously have you know what with the responsibility of council,
central government, the land owner themselves, the banks, insurers, how
do we get a framework in place that sort of
says that these things are going to keep happening. How
(04:10):
are we going to manage them in terms of the
recovery side and the compensation side and actually where we
actually build back infrastructure. How do we think about that.
Every country around the world is wrestling with us, Jamie.
I've spoken to other world leaders about it, and you
know that's why we've got a multi party bipart as
an approach to this, because you know, under successive governments
(04:31):
in the future of different colors, you know that's going
to be an issue for everybody. So it's a New
Zealand issry. It's not a political.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Issue, so we've got to work our way through that.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
We don't have the answers.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yet, but it's pretty it's obvious that.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
We're not going to be able to afford to do it,
or if it's one hundred percent on government, we're gonna
have to think about how we manage that risk better.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And hopefully Todd McKay very shortly on those Tasman flood announcements.
Right A headline in the Herald yesterday cracks in the coalition.
There's Deputy Dave now the naughty boy and who would
have thought Prime Minister that Winston Peters would get the
prize for best behave pupil.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Now we've got a great coalition. Think about what we've
done for your sec deal. I mean you've got dairy meat,
Hord of Culture, forestry, seafood, all company pumping, which is fantastic.
Now we've got a great coalition and I you know,
we're proud.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
But yeah, we had a process issue.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
David as on the letter that he sent to the
UN and Winston is coordinating a government response because it's
four or five issues raised in that letter. You know
that he will coordinate him and send out in due course.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So that's all that was.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, but Seymour was exactly right. Pius sold you in
lecturing us here in New Zealand got on Seymour for
sending off a missive We.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Don't disagree with the substance of that. I think you'd
find all of government in Winston, myself and David would
have very similar views around other substance and the content
of what we received. But the point is, you know,
the process is that you know, Winston Peters, as our
Foreign Affairs minister, is the right person to coordinate our
response to those to that letter, and he'll do a
great job doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So it's Winston's job to tell the un to go
and stick it up there where the sun doesn't shine. Anyhow, Radio,
Winston's standing as a statesman seems to be growing by
the day. In that latest taxpayer Union Curier poll which
came out while you were away, hashim ahead of the
Greens and Act and the Greens for the first time.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I think he's done an exceptional job. I think you
know he's out and about in the world between himself, myself,
Todd McLay, Judith Collins, the four of us are trying
to lift with great urgency the intensity and the quality
of our relationships with international countries and partners. And he's
hugely respected across the world. He's hugually our huge adenerration
(06:45):
for what he does in the foreign affairs space for
New Zealand, and we should be grateful that he's out
there doing the business.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You know, you compare and contrast.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
What's happened in our eighteen months versus the previous six years.
We're essentially no one went traveling from New Zealand, and
we had a Foreign Affairs Minister that didn't want to
go to foreign a feirs essentially, and the whole place
shut down and we lost a huge amount of influence.
And you know, now we're building back our influence very strongly.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Just talking of Winston, Federated Farmers is joining other major
industry good bodies such as darian Z Beef and LAMB
New Zealand and not advocating for the government to withdraw
from the Paris Agreement. Now here's the question for your
Prime Minister. Do all the members of the coalition support
the stance?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Coalition government position is really clear, Yeah, absolutely clear. We
all believe that's why we've you know, it's our position
of the government. I mean, it's a cabinet. We make
those funny calls and we have good COMversations in cabinet,
but you know, there's no doubt about it. The government position.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Sorry, it's pretty simple because you know, as I said
before and I said at Field Days, you know, look,
we're going hard on economic growth. We're not putting farming
at risk. We're not going to punish our farmers. We're
not going to shut farms down. And frankly, it wasn't
Paris that did the damage to farmers. Farmers, it was
labor that did the damage to farmers. Be really clear
about that. Next, as I said before, I can tell
you our global competitors, countries that sell similar products to
(08:04):
US and international multinational corporations to be consumer goods companies,
they would look, you know, they'll.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Kick us out in the heartbeat if you exit a Paris.
So let's be clear.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
There's I think Yemen, Libya, one other country, and now
the US. But you've got the American governors of states
are very committed to itself and acting on.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Its Libya, Yemen, Eritrea and South Sa'dan and the United States.
Let's not forget about the United States under Trump anyhow,
that's another discussion for another day. Prime Minister, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Great to be with you, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Fifteen after twelve. Yes, recorded earlier this morning when the
PM was available. I neglected actually in that list to
mention Iran. So the full list is Libya, Yemen, Iran, Eritrea,
South Sadan and the Trump st So there you go.
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think he's there because he's just announced six hundred thousand
dollars flood relief package. The Minister of Agriculture and Forestry,
Todd McLay Maello Eighties bangers today on the country twenty
(10:42):
after twelve. We're heading to Nelson or the Nelson Tasman region.
He's on the ground there, the Minister of Agriculture and Forestry,
Todd McLay and Todd you were probably a child of
the eighties. Do you remember Blue Monday by New.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Order Jamie how I do you remember that? A child
of the eighties who probably used to listen to that
song in a pub long before he was allowed to.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, well, I was a child of the seventies, Todden
were Actually I'm sure. I think when we was drinking,
age was twenty when I went to the university, so
I was illegally drinking for the first year.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Anyhow, that I think the point I was making is
a drinking age is twenty when I was at high school.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
All right, at high school. Right, Let's move on to
six hundred thousand dollars all up in support package announced
today for flood affected farmers, growers and foresters.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, well, Jamie, I'm here on the ground, as you said,
in the nowncent Townshend area, having a look at what
can only really be described as devastation from these big
weather and wind events over the last couple of weeks.
You know, this is a fact area where the farmers
event had hard You know that's a week after a
week and it's dragging on. So with industry bodies, we're
(11:57):
going to make an announcement of six hundred thousand dollars
support that will guard help.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Hopes.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Where have you gone, Todd? Hello, Todd? Do we have
comms with Todd McLay? Have we got you? You need
to stand on top of one of those hills in
the Tasman region. Can you hear me, Jamie, I've got
you now, So yeah, where you go?
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Hell over here? Stop anyway? Sorry about that, I'm saying.
So six hundred thousand dollars that will help on the ground.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Right now we've got a lot of officials and others
here that are working out where the damages and what
supporters needed. But look, the indications are there's going to
be more events in the coming weeks. So the message
really is to farmers and Forrest says, to be very
careful about what you're doing, you know, clean up rubbish
to get out of the way. But we're going to
be prepared for more bad weather.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
As you know. I've spoken to the Prime Minister earlier
this morning. We've already played that interview, but he did
make the point of saying yesterday that we can't bail
out our homeowner's business owner as farmers, foresters, growers forever
because we're just going to run out of money, that's right.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
So the funding that we've announced is not to go
in and help each of them directly, but certainly there's
going to be some work that's needed straight away. We've
had about two hundred landowners of farmers reach out to us.
At the moment, we know there's many many more out
there that will need assistance. Some of those are some
(13:27):
of those areas the farm's probably not usable anymore. There'll
be differing amounts of damage. But ultimately we put some
money into the Mayor's you know, relief fund, and we're
partnering with Federated Farmers and also HOUGHT New Zealanders also
put some money up to get into some of the
most affected people and get them support and a bit
of help they need. And in some cases there'll be there'll
(13:48):
be diggers and bulldozers going and to help clean up
really really quickly, and you know, there's going to be
a lot of work to do around here, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yep. So of the six hundred thousand, half a million's
come from the government, fifty from feeds and fifty k
from horticulture New Zealand. And it would appear on the
face of it for those of us who haven't been
there like you are today, that perhaps horticulture has been
the hardest hut.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, that's right. I've just been how long. I had
a look at our hops orchard where, although it's the
off season, what was you know, probably described as a
large stream has moved two or three hundred meters and
more across into the land in the middle of where
they're grown their hops. And it's a great, big, raging,
bloody river now. And so you are right, Hawt's been
(14:32):
hit pretty heavily. I tell you what though, I had
a chance to jumping a helicopter to have a look
at the area. Forest She's probably lost four to five
thousand hectares. And this is wind damage where trees have
been uprooted and just lying there, spread right across the
region at quite a cost to them. And so I'm
going to say the forestry sector of pitching in there
(14:52):
are many land owners that have problems, have lost their
own trees or silt and so on. As they're cleaning
up for themselves, are going and helping others. That really
is the community, the wider community puting in together.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, four or five thousand hectares of forestry loss, that's
that's a huge number. And that all I think happened
in the second event when the wind got up.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yeah, that's right. I tell you that the thing that
is so pleasingly. Surprisingly surprising though, is that there isn't
a lot of damage from that where trees have come
out our whole trees, often with roots are still on them.
There's not a lot of evidence of slash or other
type of material coming down. And look, I put that
down to a couple of things the forestry practice here
(15:33):
along with the rules that the councilor set. The council
have been really smart about this working with a sect.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
They haven't.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
We got good rules to stop sort of damage, but
not just put cost upon them. But there's also examples
where farmers have had small blocks of trees that have
been devastated. They won't have the ability or money to
get those trees off their land and get anything from them.
Because you know there's going to be you know, every
festy conferct is going to be working with the big
guys the forestry sector today, the big or the big
(16:00):
companies gave me a commitment today that where farmers need help,
do'll actually send their workers into help clean the trees
up and you know, work through that so they're not
sitting there wondering about what they're going to do with their
farms where they've got but hey would sitting on the
ground as well.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I just got a text and from Laurie Patterson, who
you know well from Groundswell, always a practical man. He said,
tell Todd to hire a couple of de six bulldozers
and start bulldozing the gravel out of the rivers. And
we talked to Damian O'Connor about this one on yesterday's
show and it would appear to me that would be
a good start to help farmers and growers and foresters.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I don't agree with everything Laurie says, as you'll know,
but actually I think he's right in this area. There
is a bit of work that we have underway for
the last short period of time, having a little look
at the rim May and how it doesn't allow us
to do things around waterways. Now I'm not the RMA minister,
but look it's as straightforward as this. If you are
(16:56):
not allowed to build, you know, stock banks or clean
up waterways, you're going to have more events like this.
And years ago farmers who were a sponsor, he's about
to take your aggregate, you know, out of out of
the rivers, and the rivers were throwing clearly the flow clearly,
you know, and build stock banks. You can't anymore. It's
no wonder we're having such devastation. So Christmas it's having
(17:19):
a really good look at this. It's not so straightforward
to say do what you want, but we shouldn't be
saying you can't do anything at all.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Okay, Todd maclay, thanks for some of your time on
the ground in the Tasman Nelson region and thanks for
tipping in between you FEDS and hort New Zealand six
hundred grand to help with the cleanup. Thanks Samie, Minister
of Agriculture and Forestry. For the purposes of this conversation,
we didn't bother mentioning as trade portfolio talking about ground swell.
(17:48):
Here's one from Glenn a text coming in. Send us
a text on five o nine, Jamie, when are you
going to give your mate Bryce an uppercut? I'm assuming
he means Bryce McKenzie, not Bryce Lawrence. Well, I wouldn't
mind giving Bryce Lawrence an uppercut on occasions knock some
(18:09):
sense into him. Hello, Bryce, if you're listening, I've got
to stop picking on you. So when you're going to
give you mate, Bryce, we're assuming it's mackenzie an uppercut
over his misinformation about Paris. The PM just told us
the truth. Leaving Paris will make all of us farmers
FORR by about two dollars a kilogram. I reckon, and
I'm assuming Glenn is talking about her milk solids there.
(18:32):
I've heard the number three dollars the kilogram of milk solids.
I'm not sure I agree with it, but maybe I'm
not smart enough to do the math on that one.
Talking about milk solids. Good global dairy trade auction overnight.
We're going to catch up with Andrew Murray Fonterra's CFO
have a look at that Global dairy Trade auction overnight
(18:52):
before the end of the hour. Earlier this morning I
caught up with Jack Fagan. He's about to head into
it sharing test match along with Tyler Henderson against Wales.
I've lost to Scotland, I've won against England and France
and Jim Hopkins on the politics of water. This was
(19:24):
a good news result overnight. The latest Global dairy trade
auction up one point one percent, Pole mirk powder one
point seven percent, skim milk powder two point five percent.
Tell us a bit more from Fonterra CFO Chief Financial
Officer Andrew Murray. And Andrew I had other pundits on
the show yesterday suggesting the result would be flat to
(19:47):
down one percent. So we'll take this we.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Cent in the world. Demmy, yep, it's nice there. As
he go up a little bit after four in the rule,
I think it was that we were done.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So Andrew Murray, let's have a look at where the
buying interests came from overnight.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Look, I think as we've seen the prices moderate a
little bit over the past few options, we certainly see
demand supported well in China and also in socialcesia, like
you know, gett into this sort of price levels where
the demand becomes pretty strong. So actually a really good
spread geographically.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
A whole mark powder, as I said, one point seven percent.
What was behind skim milk powder, star of the show
last night up two point five percent.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Yeah, well, actually it's interesting, I think, you know, sort
of look at it compared to the US prices, but
I think, to be honest, it's just it's been down
a little bit and so we're starting to see that
leading demand really come back through very strongly socialczia actually
as well through in skim so I think, you know,
if prices really are that's just encouraging valuers to come
back into the market.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Butter, no change at all. Cheese down five point six percent.
There might be a few people listening to the show
domestically who think that's a good news story.
Speaker 10 (20:54):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I mean I think you know, Butter,
you know, it's it's sort of settled to you it is.
And certainly if you look at you know, New Zealand origin,
it's still a lot less than your being in Europe.
So you know, I think that will put a bit
of a floor on a butter prices for a while.
I think, you know, you look at Cheddar, yes down
and you know, I think the US and the EU
(21:14):
prices they're also easy as well, so not unsurprising. I
guess that there's a little bit of movement downwards onig
in Cheddar. But yeah, that's off the back of the global.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Space twenty five twenty sixth season is really about to
get underway. Carving just getting underway, and parts of the
North Island now so air production. We still have no
idea for the season. But in terms of Northern Hemisphere,
what are you saying there?
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Look, it's interesting. I mean, it is very hot over
there at the moment. That doesn't seem to be actually
impacting production at the moment. So Europe's up, the US
is up, and Latin America actually are up as well,
so you know, globally there certainly still you know, production
is growing for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Ten dollars is where you sit at the moment. You've
got a huge price range from eight dollars to eleven dollars,
so on these numbers, I mean there was talk last
or a couple of weeks ago that the ten dollars
might be under threat. This might make dairy farmers Andrew
Murray's sleep awey bit easier at night as they head
into the new season.
Speaker 10 (22:15):
I mean, there's still a lot of uncertainty, I think
is the best wade to put it. So you know,
we did put that sort of larger arrange out there,
and just to reflect that. I mean, you know, we're
still not really sure what talents look like. I think,
you know, we think there's an answer and then it
changes a little bit. You know, you look at the focus,
I guess, you know, moving a bit from Iran, Israel,
you know, Russia, Ukraine definitely back on there, so you
(22:38):
sort of look at those and you're like, yes, there's
still a lot of uncertainty, which is open. We're pretty
comfortable that a arranger and actually a forecast of ten
dollars is certainly reflective of what we're seeing, but again,
just conscious there's still a lot of other risks.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
That sits the round.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, Andrew Murray out of Fontira, Thanks for your time.
A good global dairy trade action overnight tad.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Cheers any thank you?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That is twenty five away from one this screen's eighties,
doesn't it. Michelle's done a good job here. You spin
me round like a record, dead or alive. Keep the
feedback coming in On the text line, Jamie, why has
Molesworth Station manager Jim Ward James as we used to
call him at school, suddenly quit question mark question mark
(23:23):
question mark disagreement with the woke direction the corporate arm
of Palmer was taking question mark question mark question mark
from the text I don't know. Michelle told me about
this one not more than half an hour ago. Jim
Ward is resigned running from running the country's biggest farm,
Molesworth Station. He's a good bloke, as I said, I
(23:45):
went to school with him doing a great job there.
I don't know if he's speaking at the moment. I
might try and get him on the show The Old
Schoolmate Connection. Eh, Jim, if you're listening, give me a
ring and tell me why you quit Interesting times. And
here's a good news story just before we go to
rural news and and sports use the government abandons open
(24:05):
plan classrooms amid learning concerns. Look, this is a bit
like hot desking and corporate officers. Grumpy boomers like myself
demand their own office, so it doesn't affect me. But honestly,
what a waste of time open plan learning. All it
did is create more noise and distract the kids. We're
(24:26):
spinning right around. Maybe we're going three sixty or one
eighty on this and going back to where we should
be going. You feedback on five, double nine. Up next,
Michelle with the latest and rural News. Nothing. Nothing says
(24:48):
more or screams eighties more than Rick Astley. Maybe Madonna
with the tail one, but definitely Rick Asley for me, Michelle,
good afternoon. Yes you've come up with some bangers in
the eighties.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I love the eighties. I'm a big fan. I don't
know why I think it's just maybe it's memories. I
was fairly young, like Todd McLay though in the eighties,
so no.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Right, you were a bit quiet. I turned my headphones
up and then I haven't got an inside voice of
blown my own ears out. What's left for them? Misspent
youth on the end of a chainsaw. It's quite handy
at home though, being half death. I've discovered that Michelle
here or.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
You might start getting some text from them.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
The program director can only get into one ear. Here's
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The study, which is taking place in Canterbury, is set
to help New Zealand's at billion dollar wine export industry
grow more disease resistant grape vines and reduce funger signed
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which reduces the need for fungicides and boosting productivity for growers.
Early findings have suggested that chemical spray use could be
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which is a potential for a multimillion dollar cost saving
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Speaker 3 (26:26):
Can't wait for the British Golf Open, or they call
it the Open these days, Scottish Scheffler's questioned his future
and professional golf, as I do every Saturday at about
five o'clock when I get into the clubhouse, after admitting
winning has left him with little fulfillment. You don't know
how lucky you are. Scotty, the world number one, has
left gathered media astonished on the eve of the Open
(26:49):
Championship at Royal Port Rush with a five minute, unprompted
dive into life at the top of the sport. I'll
put a sly wee ten dollars and I'm not a
big punter on Rory. He's paying eight dollars. I think
Scott's about four or five or six or something like that.
So hopefully Rory can get the business done. And my
other favorite Bryson Deshambo, who knows how he'll go. And
(27:12):
I've got some money on Ryan Fox paying good money too.
And the big sports story of the day though is tonight,
and I think it's going to be on quite late.
I'm thinking of buying the fight, but I don't want
to fall to sleep when it's happening. Sonny Bill Williams
versus Paul Gallon.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
He's interesting, isn't it, because we're just talking about their ages.
And actually a lot of those heavyweights did go quite
long into their careers, like George Foreman and the rest,
and didn't they like.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Forty Mike Tyson. Some of them went for far too long.
But anyhow, it's going to be a good scrap. They
don't like each other. More about that on tomorrow's show
with our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell. Up next, it is
Jack Fagan in the UK. Caught up with him earlier
this morning.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Happen.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Normally when we talk about greats from Tekuwedi, we talk
about Sir Colin Meads or Sir David Fagan. But here's
someone who's certainly making his name on the international stage,
son of It's not Glynn Meads, No, it's Jack Fagan
who's over there representing New Zealand in the Test Series
against the likes of Scotland, England, France and Wales. Coming up.
(28:24):
Jack Fagan referring to Colin Meads, this is a bit
like a Grand Slam rugby tour for you and Tower Henderson.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yeah it is, Jamie.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
We're on a pretty good form at the moment and
really looking forward to getting down into Wales.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, let's talk about last weekend Tower Henderson claiming his
first big success in the Northern Hemisphere. He had a
great season in the New Zealand sharing season and winning
both the big main titles. But he won the French
Championship and you were second, and then you cleaned up
the French in the Test Series.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Yeah, we had a pretty special trip to France. Were
absolutely incredible in the final. It was about as good
as he could go. And yeah, we trumped the French
by eleven points in the Test which was which was
quite quite a big win to be honest, that's that'd
be like winning in rugby. But I sort of eighty
points to ten, so yeah, we trumped them well in
(29:17):
that and I come away with the win at the
speech here and it's yeah, sure it was not as
cool for me getting secked in to tour, but I
know every time that he beats me, I'm only getting stronger.
So we're really competitive as a team. But when we
get to that individual final, it's all on.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Hey is the big money in the speed share like
there is here in New Zealand.
Speaker 12 (29:36):
No, not at all. It's a bit more fun over here.
It was only one hundred and fifty euro to win
that one, but it was pretty special on a back
of a trailer and sort of boosack the little village
and all the townfolk come out and watch you share
and have have a pretty good night along with it.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So you've had a loss against Scotland which was anchored
by a kiwe Gavin much, you've had wins over England
and France, and as I said, you're going to this
weekend the first of your tests. I think against Wales,
what difference is there in the sheep, for instance, what
I'm assuming and the Scottish sheep will be quite different
(30:13):
to a New Zealand cross bread.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
So that the Scottish sheep be sure with blackies you.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Can look them up on Google, but they're a bit
more like a mountain goat with big horns. And I've
said it before that there's some of the wildest, most
vicious sheep you can share. If they had win, I
think they would make it to Greenland for a quick
stop before heading on their way to the.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
North tole there. They've got a lot of energy.
Speaker 12 (30:37):
But that the Walsh sheep we're going to be sharing
it will all be Lambs, and what's unique about them
is there's probably six different breeds of Welsh lambs will
be sharing with the Welsh Mountain lambs would be probably
a little bit more tricky with the wall type and
the type of skin they have. You have to use
ready special combs on them, and tour hasn't shown them before.
But he is by far the most adaptable sharer on
(31:00):
the circuit at the moment, so I've got big hopes
for him and him and himself to do well.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
For sure, you.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Hardly get any time to acclimatize to the different breeds.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
No, not really, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I'm lucky.
Speaker 12 (31:14):
I've been over here now for fifteen years. Ever since
I could share. So I've got really good knowledge of
the gear and the sheep and what to use in
these competitions and I'm trying to help Tour out as
much as i can when it comes to these tests
so we can hit the ground running. But yeah, there's
not much downtime at all. We pretty much landed off
the plane into work and then straight into competition.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
So it's been good fun so far.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, as I said, a lost to Scotland, wins over
England and France. What a whale's going to be like?
Who are their stars?
Speaker 12 (31:44):
So Keeth and Lewis He set a two stand British
record the other day. He also claimed a solo ad
our you British record, so he's arguably the strongest Welsh
sharer on form at the moment and his teammate in
the first test will be Clear Jones. He had the
sailed record attempt just out of Mastered and back in December,
(32:04):
so another really strong sharer. And then there's the potential
for an entirely new Welsh team for.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
The last two tests.
Speaker 12 (32:12):
As we head into the Royal Welsh we'll find out
who will become the Championship of Wales and win the
Welsh Sharing circuit, so it could be the same two shares,
but there's also a chance we could have a new team.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
But yet it's going to be a hell of a battle.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
They're certainly specialists on their own sheep.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Is it straight home for you after the Welsh Test Series?
Back to the Teco Edi Dairy Farm and sharing here
in New Zealand. Are you staying over for the rest
of their season.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
I'll stay over for another couple of weeks. There's a
few good shows on Wales the week after our Test
tour and I want to go and hit them in
preparation for World Champs twenty nine. I'm always trying to
get more combs coming down and just practicing on the lambs,
and then the last competition heading over to Ireland up
to Donnie Gaul and we've got a big show there
which will be our grand finale for the season, before
(32:59):
coming back home a couple of weeks and then heading
to Western Australia.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Well, Jack Fagan, it's late in the evening your time.
I know you've got to get to bed, get up
early and get some sharing and thanks for some of
your time. You and Toy Henderson are doing us proud
on the other side of the world. No worries to dammy,
wake me up before you go go bedtime for Jack
on the other side of the world. Up next, we
wrap it with Jim Hopkins. Kevin help us local body
(33:27):
elections are coming up in October. Jim Hopkins joins us
from the Principality of Oamaru. Of course he's on the
Waitaki District Council. Jim, I assume you're standing again. Is
it too early or would it be rude and presumptuous
of me to say vote Hopkins?
Speaker 6 (33:44):
No, I would nothing, so thank you. If you believe it,
then you should say it's the case with everything. Yes,
I am saying again and hello Jamie, welcome greeting salutations
from the principality.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yes, yes, Now I want to talk to you today
about water politics, but more importantly the politics of water
three waters was we plainly didn't get it right. But
as the replacement is the cure worse than the disease
Because we're looking at all these local bodies, especially some
of the smaller ones around the country, the rural ones,
and they have got horrendous double digit rate increases because
(34:21):
central government is kind of lumped water on them without
much assistance. Am I oversimplifying that?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yes, I think you are. There is truth in that.
But equally, at the moment, councilors have the opportunity to
sort of look at how they will deliver supply of
water in future and say, you suggested the cure was
worse than the disease. In other words, local water done well,
(34:48):
which is the coalition government solution, is worse than three Waters,
which was the Nanaya Mohota's approach. I don't think that's correct.
I think the Three Waters of approach involved nationalization of assets,
essentially just taking them over initially to go into four
companies nationwide and then latterly twelve. The new solution sort
(35:11):
of says, hey, counsels get together, have a chat, talk
to each other, and come up with us with solutions
of or work in your area and look for the
cheapest possible options that are available to you. So it
all sounds very nice and very democratic and very egalitarian.
(35:32):
But the new government is as determined as label was
to actually get some water reforms initiated. And so basically,
if you come up with an idea which you have
to actually then send to Wellington by September this year
and Wellington Cancer or the Department of Internal Affairs can say, oh, yes,
(35:53):
that's a wonderful idea.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
You carry on what terrific three tiers. Or they can
say no, we don't like that. You go away and
try again. And if in fact a council goes away,
tries again and Department of Internal Affairs still doesn't like it,
then they the department can say, right, this is what
you're going to do.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Can I just finish on another thing, perhaps politics on
a national scale, Because I know you're a keen observer.
Are you seeing like I am? A renaissance in Winston
Peter's political career and that of his henchman, loyal henchman
Shane Jones. I just think they're scratching an itch with
a lot of New Zealanders now and in the latest
(36:35):
Taxpayers Union Curier poll, I note that New Zealand First
beat the Greens and Act and the Greens for the
first time.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Yes, I noticed that as well.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
My view is that in the first New Zealand First
is probably benefiting as much from Shane Jones' positions on
various things as from Winston's. I noticed that the person
on the party.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Who'd been saying the most in the period immediately before
while while that Textpayer's Union poll was being conducted, who
was actually most vocal was Shane Jones. So the question
really is is he the person who's having a positive
effect in terms of New Zealand first popularity. I think
(37:20):
he's saying things that there isn't sort of a silent
majority appetite.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Here, Jim Hopkins, thanks for a time. I'm out of
time at that end. Yes, listen, that's got it. I
know you're a busy man. You're about to do a
white Stone Cheese tour. Good luck with that one. Great
to catch up. And I guess Shane Jones on his
campaign trail as bad news for snails, lizards, skinks and
especially blind frogs. Indeed, hey Jim, take care mate. Likewise,
(37:47):
by see you, Jim right wrapping the show today. If
you want to go fishing with Scott Barrett, you and
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