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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There it's gun boots or rugby boots. The country Sport
Breakfast has you covered on gold Sport, your home of
live commentary, Talking.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cracket on the show. Now Tea twenty World Cup Now
under the way. We've made it to week two of
the Cup. Out of the USA and the West Indies.
Joining us on the CSV this morning. The voice of
New Zealand Crecket, one half of the Front Foot Podcast
with Jeremy Coney, is Brian Wideld money once. Yeah, very well,
thank you. You've survived the first week or two of
(00:29):
Tea twenty World Cup.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh the frustrations that go with bet as you know,
I'm not a great fan of the Tea twenty game,
you know, some of these tournaments that you have all
around the world. But I mean, this is the World Championship.
Even though they have those every five minutes, it is
a tournament that New Zealand has represented. Well, I think
you're represented. I mean utterly disappointed in the way they
(00:54):
played and I think that's been kind. We were just
outgunned by Afghanistan who played professionally and were organized and prepared,
which I think is the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, how much can you blame that embarrassing performance to
the black Caps on no zero warm up games. I mean,
in all your years covering Black Caps games, have you
ever heard of the team not having a warm up
before a World Cup? No?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And often they play games where everybody plays, you know,
the whole squad plays, just so that everybody gets a
chance to play in the conditions. To understand those conditions,
I mean, with the All Blacks go on an overseas
tour to the World Cup and not have a warm
up game, with the Sevens, not have a warm up
series of matches before the Olympics. This is international sport
and New Zealand should have been prepared. They had the opportunity,
(01:44):
they didn't take it, and I think they're paying for
it because a.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Lot of the players came out of the APL and
even over the IPL, sorry, and even over there, they
didn't get much in the way of game time leading
up to their game, did they No?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And I think the most important thing though, is even
if you don't have that game time, that you're doing
things together, that you are able to play as a team.
The fielding effort, which in recent times has been an
utter disappointment, was woneful. You know, these are the games
where you've got to take catches, you've got to make runouts,
you've got to do the things with some degree of
(02:18):
precision that we saw from Afghanistan. I was impressed with them.
They are very likely to go through. And a New
Zealand can't beat the West Indies on the Thursday, then
they're in deep trouble because they've got a minus run
rate and that in itself is something that they need
to address. I mean, the facts are that they've got
(02:39):
three games to go and you know they need maximum
points and if they can't do that and get a
good run rate, they're going to be pushing it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And the West Indies will not be easy to beat
on their home pitches, really will.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
They No, they're not. And they play with the crowd
behind them, even though some of the crowds have been disappointing.
They are playing in conditions they know, well, this game
is in Trinity now. The normal ground at Trinidad, where
New Zealand has played in the past and some of
those who played in the Caribbean Premier League is Queens
(03:16):
Park Oval. Well, this is the Brian Lara Academy and
new ground that the new Zealanders have hardly played at
and of course the West Eddies have played there, and
you know, they know the conditions, they know the pictures
because some of these pitches have been a little tricky.
You see the game between India and Pakistan, you know,
can only score one hundred each. And the game this
(03:38):
morning in New York was the game between South Africa
and Vangladesh and you know that went right down to
the wire with one hundred and twenties, you know, sort
of the total for the two sides.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Can you see many changes happening before that Thursday game
in the Black Cap side?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well yeah, I mean the side that they played against
Afghanistan was arguably the best side that they had available,
with the likelihood that in conditions that is Sodi could
have been successful, he might have been included. They may
have to make a change at the top. The fern
(04:20):
Allen's style is not going to work in these conditions.
You know. You look that players are not able to
play that free hitting, six hitting kind of role. In Russia.
Ravender may have to come in as as opener. You know,
I still carry on and a lot of the critics
(04:41):
have said that New Zealand shouldn't be using Conway behind
the stumps. He should be there as a batsman and
being used as a batsman. And they can't make that
change because they don't have a workt keeper in their squad.
So you know they've got to make changes, but the
changes have to be mental changes. There are ability to
play the game, to commit for one hundred percent of
(05:04):
the time and eliminate some of the eras that have
been quite costly. You know, they're not out of it yet.
There's a mathematical chance that they can get through. The boy,
those mathematics are taking a big hit at the moment.
They're going to have to get real calculators out to
work this through.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They're probably going to have to win each every single
one of the three games remaining against the West Indies,
against you Gandwan, against Papa and New Guinea, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, and win them comprehensively. No, I don't see them
doing that against the West Indies. That will be the
tough one. It was always going to be a tough
one to play Afghanistan and West Indies. First, you Gander
Papa and you need no offense to them, and they
should be able to thresh them. If they can't then
there's real desperation stuff. And the last game, of course
is Afghanistan versus the West Indies in their group. So
(05:50):
you know New Zealand could end up like possibly England,
like possibly Pakistan. Mathematics are playing a part in their chances,
but they're still not out of it, but you know
they would be in the departure ounds before they know it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, who's impressed you so far? Out of all the
teams competing in this tournament, who do you see going
through to the maybe the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, the Australian's played pretty well to score two hundred
against England. That came as no surprise that the Australians
are aside that play together. They don't change that team often.
You know, they've been out here in New Zealand playing
as that team and you know they were just too
good for England. Afghanistan have been impressive, you know, they
(06:35):
they've got an organized game. They're under the coaching of
Jonathan Trott, former English player who himself was an organized,
established player, and so they're going pretty well. South Africa
have had a couple of close ones and you know,
I'm quite impressed to the way that the United States
have gone about the John They've got some good criticism there.
(06:57):
We know how good a player Corey Anderson can be
if he's put in the defensive players who have been
interesting to watch. So you know, there's no sort of
real individual as such that I've really taken notice. It's
the sides that perform well as a team. These pitches
are not easy to score on. The New York one
(07:19):
has preved, but it's made for exciting cricket. You know,
sometimes you wonder why spin bowlers have never played in
the past and now they're playing a significant role in
many of the site and the pitches are slow and
low and they're bringing close games. It may well be
the change to how twenty over cricket has played, as
(07:41):
opposed to how it is at the IPL, where you
have two over side and anybody and hit six of them,
Gay abandoned and you know two hundred and seventy plays
two hundred and sixty nine. These games are slightly different.
So you know, it's interesting to see that the pressure
right on the black Caps, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, it's the tournament itself, as you said, games in
New York and Dallas. I think the ICC is wasting
its time trying to correct the US market.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's a hard one to know. I mean, you have
to try these things. There is money there and you know,
a thirty five thousand seed the stadium built out of
nowhere has attracted, you know, nearly full houses when India
played Pakistan. They've had a couple of big ones there.
It's all about money, it's all about television revenue because
some of the grounds have hardly had the crowds that
(08:35):
they would want. So I guess you know, it's an
area where they could trial and they have done that,
and of course the possibility of having teams at the
Olympics must be coming into their thinking. If it's not
a financial success, then you know it won't be continued with.
(08:56):
But such as the Indian Pakistan population, in some of
these places, they are attracting the population. I mean, they
were talking about two five hundred dollars a ticket. Apparently
it didn't sell very well. I can't understand that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It did help the US winning their game, that's for sure.
And the games are all at a decent time for you,
twelve thirty in the afternoon, so that's great. So we
look forward to to Thursday once. Thanks for joining us, mate.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, well i'll tell you what. I'm not getting up
for the two thirty game. I've got to tell you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's on Tuesday, the eighteenth of June against Papua New Guinea.
But that's all right, all right, good late, good good
to chat mate. Well we're talking in soon, okay, Ryan Model,
Voice of New Zealand cricket
There it's gun boots or rugby boots. The country Sport
Breakfast has you covered on gold Sport, your home of
live commentary, Talking.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cracket on the show. Now Tea twenty World Cup Now
under the way. We've made it to week two of
the Cup. Out of the USA and the West Indies.
Joining us on the CSV this morning. The voice of
New Zealand Crecket, one half of the Front Foot Podcast
with Jeremy Coney, is Brian Wideld money once. Yeah, very well,
thank you. You've survived the first week or two of
(00:29):
Tea twenty World Cup.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh the frustrations that go with bet as you know,
I'm not a great fan of the Tea twenty game,
you know, some of these tournaments that you have all
around the world. But I mean, this is the World Championship.
Even though they have those every five minutes, it is
a tournament that New Zealand has represented. Well, I think
you're represented. I mean utterly disappointed in the way they
(00:54):
played and I think that's been kind. We were just
outgunned by Afghanistan who played professionally and were organized and prepared,
which I think is the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, how much can you blame that embarrassing performance to
the black Caps on no zero warm up games. I mean,
in all your years covering Black Caps games, have you
ever heard of the team not having a warm up
before a World Cup? No?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And often they play games where everybody plays, you know,
the whole squad plays, just so that everybody gets a
chance to play in the conditions. To understand those conditions,
I mean, with the All Blacks go on an overseas
tour to the World Cup and not have a warm
up game, with the Sevens, not have a warm up
series of matches before the Olympics. This is international sport
and New Zealand should have been prepared. They had the opportunity,
(01:44):
they didn't take it, and I think they're paying for
it because a.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Lot of the players came out of the APL and
even over the IPL, sorry, and even over there, they
didn't get much in the way of game time leading
up to their game, did they No?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And I think the most important thing though, is even
if you don't have that game time, that you're doing
things together, that you are able to play as a team.
The fielding effort, which in recent times has been an
utter disappointment, was woneful. You know, these are the games
where you've got to take catches, you've got to make runouts,
you've got to do the things with some degree of
(02:18):
precision that we saw from Afghanistan. I was impressed with them.
They are very likely to go through. And a New
Zealand can't beat the West Indies on the Thursday, then
they're in deep trouble because they've got a minus run
rate and that in itself is something that they need
to address. I mean, the facts are that they've got
(02:39):
three games to go and you know they need maximum
points and if they can't do that and get a
good run rate, they're going to be pushing it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And the West Indies will not be easy to beat
on their home pitches, really will.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
They No, they're not. And they play with the crowd
behind them, even though some of the crowds have been disappointing.
They are playing in conditions they know, well, this game
is in Trinity now. The normal ground at Trinidad, where
New Zealand has played in the past and some of
those who played in the Caribbean Premier League is Queens
(03:16):
Park Oval. Well, this is the Brian Lara Academy and
new ground that the new Zealanders have hardly played at
and of course the West Eddies have played there, and
you know, they know the conditions, they know the pictures
because some of these pitches have been a little tricky.
You see the game between India and Pakistan, you know,
can only score one hundred each. And the game this
(03:38):
morning in New York was the game between South Africa
and Vangladesh and you know that went right down to
the wire with one hundred and twenties, you know, sort
of the total for the two sides.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Can you see many changes happening before that Thursday game
in the Black Cap side?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well yeah, I mean the side that they played against
Afghanistan was arguably the best side that they had available,
with the likelihood that in conditions that is Sodi could
have been successful, he might have been included. They may
have to make a change at the top. The fern
(04:20):
Allen's style is not going to work in these conditions.
You know. You look that players are not able to
play that free hitting, six hitting kind of role. In Russia.
Ravender may have to come in as as opener. You know,
I still carry on and a lot of the critics
(04:41):
have said that New Zealand shouldn't be using Conway behind
the stumps. He should be there as a batsman and
being used as a batsman. And they can't make that
change because they don't have a workt keeper in their squad.
So you know they've got to make changes, but the
changes have to be mental changes. There are ability to
play the game, to commit for one hundred percent of
(05:04):
the time and eliminate some of the eras that have
been quite costly. You know, they're not out of it yet.
There's a mathematical chance that they can get through. The boy,
those mathematics are taking a big hit at the moment.
They're going to have to get real calculators out to
work this through.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They're probably going to have to win each every single
one of the three games remaining against the West Indies,
against you Gandwan, against Papa and New Guinea, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, and win them comprehensively. No, I don't see them
doing that against the West Indies. That will be the
tough one. It was always going to be a tough
one to play Afghanistan and West Indies. First, you Gander
Papa and you need no offense to them, and they
should be able to thresh them. If they can't then
there's real desperation stuff. And the last game, of course
is Afghanistan versus the West Indies in their group. So
(05:50):
you know New Zealand could end up like possibly England,
like possibly Pakistan. Mathematics are playing a part in their chances,
but they're still not out of it, but you know
they would be in the departure ounds before they know it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, who's impressed you so far? Out of all the
teams competing in this tournament, who do you see going
through to the maybe the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, the Australian's played pretty well to score two hundred
against England. That came as no surprise that the Australians
are aside that play together. They don't change that team often.
You know, they've been out here in New Zealand playing
as that team and you know they were just too
good for England. Afghanistan have been impressive, you know, they
(06:35):
they've got an organized game. They're under the coaching of
Jonathan Trott, former English player who himself was an organized,
established player, and so they're going pretty well. South Africa
have had a couple of close ones and you know,
I'm quite impressed to the way that the United States
have gone about the John They've got some good criticism there.
(06:57):
We know how good a player Corey Anderson can be
if he's put in the defensive players who have been
interesting to watch. So you know, there's no sort of
real individual as such that I've really taken notice. It's
the sides that perform well as a team. These pitches
are not easy to score on. The New York one
(07:19):
has preved, but it's made for exciting cricket. You know,
sometimes you wonder why spin bowlers have never played in
the past and now they're playing a significant role in
many of the site and the pitches are slow and
low and they're bringing close games. It may well be
the change to how twenty over cricket has played, as
(07:41):
opposed to how it is at the IPL, where you
have two over side and anybody and hit six of them,
Gay abandoned and you know two hundred and seventy plays
two hundred and sixty nine. These games are slightly different.
So you know, it's interesting to see that the pressure
right on the black Caps, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, it's the tournament itself, as you said, games in
New York and Dallas. I think the ICC is wasting
its time trying to correct the US market.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's a hard one to know. I mean, you have
to try these things. There is money there and you know,
a thirty five thousand seed the stadium built out of
nowhere has attracted, you know, nearly full houses when India
played Pakistan. They've had a couple of big ones there.
It's all about money, it's all about television revenue because
some of the grounds have hardly had the crowds that
(08:35):
they would want. So I guess you know, it's an
area where they could trial and they have done that,
and of course the possibility of having teams at the
Olympics must be coming into their thinking. If it's not
a financial success, then you know it won't be continued with.
(08:56):
But such as the Indian Pakistan population, in some of
these places, they are attracting the population. I mean, they
were talking about two five hundred dollars a ticket. Apparently
it didn't sell very well. I can't understand that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It did help the US winning their game, that's for sure.
And the games are all at a decent time for you,
twelve thirty in the afternoon, so that's great. So we
look forward to to Thursday once. Thanks for joining us, mate.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, well i'll tell you what. I'm not getting up
for the two thirty game. I've got to tell you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's on Tuesday, the eighteenth of June against Papua New Guinea.
But that's all right, all right, good late, good good
to chat mate. Well we're talking in soon, okay, Ryan Model,
Voice of New Zealand cricket
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