November 7, 2024 • 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International rugby coverage on the country.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Sport Breakfast is proudly brought to you by Access Solutions,
elevating you and your business to a higher level.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm to talk rugby now as we count down to
the big game All Blacks versus Ireland tomorrow morning, ten
past nine. To the man that will be part of
the commentary team is Gregor Paul, who joins us sitting
in a lovely park in Dublin at the moment.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Morning Gregor, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You've written a wonderful article this morning in the New
Zealand Herald called Inside the Bitter Feud between Ireland and
the All Blacks. Why is it a bitter feud?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I took about three thousand words to write that,
so I'll try and condense it down. I think you
can underpin it by saying it it's to do with
the changing nature of the dynamic between the two teams,
which changed really when Ireland for the first time and
was one eleven them in Chicago and from forever being
(01:02):
a sort of happy, go lucky team that could play
for sixty minutes and look competitive and then fall away
and you know, enjoy a better crack afterwards. There was
an easy going relationship between New Zealand and Ireland or
the All Blacks in Ireland. And once they started being
able to beat the All Blacks, everything changed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Neither of them became sure how to treat each other.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I suppose they've just developed a rivalry on the intensity
of the games that they've played against one another, their competitiveness,
and that has gradually moved into territory where things have
been said on the field that we all know about now.
There's been words exchanged. I don't need to go through
all those so that everyone knows what they were. And
that's all just added up to the tension, the drama
(01:45):
and the feeling that these two look.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
They enjoy playing against each other as well. That's important
to see.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You were there, so just feel that that historic day
in twenty sixteen, What was it like.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It was a heavy Irish contingent, as you'd expect in
Chicago and at the game because it's you know, it's
an expat heavy part of the world, Chicago in the
northeastern corner of the USA, so huge presence.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
A bit of disbelief really because the nature of that
game was aland rushed out to All Blacks were terrible
for about sixty minutes, and I think it was about
thirty to eight at one point, and you thought, jeez,
not only Areland going to win, but they're going to
win by you know, an unbelievable margin here. But then
the All Blacks started to come back and they scored
and they scored and they scored.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And everyone thought, oh, here we go. You know, New
Zealander just come.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They're going to come hard over the top and it'll
be another All Black victory. So Ireland had to dig
in and win that game at the death, almost with
one more try, and they enjoyed that moment and the
crowd loved it. And it wasn't genuine feeling have been
there that you were witnessing history being made and you
knew it happened one day, but you know, at the
start of the day, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You didn't know it was going to be that one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And Steve hen And was not a happy coach, was
he after that loss.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He wasn't happy at the way his team played and
the way they prepared. Because you might recall or not
that the Chicago Cubs had been playing in the World
Series that week and they'd won it, and a bit
like Ireland, they hadn't won the World Series for one
hundred and eleven years. So there was these enormous celebrations
going on in Chicago, and they All Blacks kind of
(03:27):
got caught up a wee bit in that there was
a huge parade on the Friday before the Test match.
They reckon it was the third largest gathering of humanity
in history, that there were six to seven million people
in Chicago that day to watch an open top bus
parade with the team. And Okay, he was angry because
they didn't do themselves justice.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
They didn't do what they should have.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Done, and they made it quite easy for Ireland to
win that game.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So talking about winning games, then what are the All
Blacks need to do to beat Ireland tomorrow morning?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I hope this is not taking as a facetious answer,
but they need to be playing, you know, sort of
ninety nine percent of the way that they can. You know,
they need to be almost at one hundred percent to
get this game. Well, that's how good Ireland are. If
you look back to the quarterfinal last year, you would
argue that New Zealand played at one hundred percent in Ireland,
who were brilliant on the night as well, played at
(04:22):
ninety nine percent and it was that one percent difference
that got New Zealand over the line in the end
because it was a great game. Both teams were, you know,
played well. I think that's a similar kind of scenario
you're looking at again tomorrow if they both.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Play at their best.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
As you know, as little moment time isn't it's a
drop pass, it's a miskick. It's that kind of territory
if they both play well. So New Zealand need to
be sure that they that this is the best game
of the season that they produce. They need to be
a lot more accurate than they were at Twickenham. And
accuracy means, you know, with everything with decision making, execution,
certainly discipline because they're given away far too many penalties
(04:58):
still and that's hurting them.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And I think if you look at Ireland.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They're very they're very good at not giving cheap penalties away.
They keep the pressure on teams and they make teams
work really hard and if you Zealand give them easy
outs with dumb penalties, that will be the difference between
the two. They won't win if the penalty current is
higher than ten yep.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I would agree with it there. If they bring their
a game, I think the All Blacks could be unbeatable,
but we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gregor.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I'll let you go to your next appointment. Thank you
for joining us this morning out of Dublin. Thanks very much,
Gregor Paul here and of course he'll be part of
the commentary team with Elliott Smith tomorrow morning. Kick off
of the game is a ten past nine tomorrow morning
out of Aviva Stadium in Dublin and the build up
will start at nine o'clock right here on gold Sport.
(05:45):
You can listen to it on the radio if you
happen to be at the kids' cricket matches somewhere around
International rugby coverage on the country.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Sport Breakfast is proudly brought to you by Access Solutions,
elevating you and your business to a higher level.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm to talk rugby now as we count down to
the big game All Blacks versus Ireland tomorrow morning, ten
past nine. To the man that will be part of
the commentary team is Gregor Paul, who joins us sitting
in a lovely park in Dublin at the moment.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Morning Gregor, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You've written a wonderful article this morning in the New
Zealand Herald called Inside the Bitter Feud between Ireland and
the All Blacks. Why is it a bitter feud?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I took about three thousand words to write that,
so I'll try and condense it down. I think you
can underpin it by saying it it's to do with
the changing nature of the dynamic between the two teams,
which changed really when Ireland for the first time and
was one eleven them in Chicago and from forever being
(01:02):
a sort of happy, go lucky team that could play
for sixty minutes and look competitive and then fall away
and you know, enjoy a better crack afterwards. There was
an easy going relationship between New Zealand and Ireland or
the All Blacks in Ireland. And once they started being
able to beat the All Blacks, everything changed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Neither of them became sure how to treat each other.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I suppose they've just developed a rivalry on the intensity
of the games that they've played against one another, their competitiveness,
and that has gradually moved into territory where things have
been said on the field that we all know about now.
There's been words exchanged. I don't need to go through
all those so that everyone knows what they were. And
that's all just added up to the tension, the drama
(01:45):
and the feeling that these two look.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
They enjoy playing against each other as well. That's important
to see.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You were there, so just feel that that historic day
in twenty sixteen, What was it like.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It was a heavy Irish contingent, as you'd expect in
Chicago and at the game because it's you know, it's
an expat heavy part of the world, Chicago in the
northeastern corner of the USA, so huge presence.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
A bit of disbelief really because the nature of that
game was aland rushed out to All Blacks were terrible
for about sixty minutes, and I think it was about
thirty to eight at one point, and you thought, jeez,
not only Areland going to win, but they're going to
win by you know, an unbelievable margin here. But then
the All Blacks started to come back and they scored
and they scored and they scored.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And everyone thought, oh, here we go. You know, New
Zealander just come.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They're going to come hard over the top and it'll
be another All Black victory. So Ireland had to dig
in and win that game at the death, almost with
one more try, and they enjoyed that moment and the
crowd loved it. And it wasn't genuine feeling have been
there that you were witnessing history being made and you
knew it happened one day, but you know, at the
start of the day, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You didn't know it was going to be that one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And Steve hen And was not a happy coach, was
he after that loss.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He wasn't happy at the way his team played and
the way they prepared. Because you might recall or not
that the Chicago Cubs had been playing in the World
Series that week and they'd won it, and a bit
like Ireland, they hadn't won the World Series for one
hundred and eleven years. So there was these enormous celebrations
going on in Chicago, and they All Blacks kind of
(03:27):
got caught up a wee bit in that there was
a huge parade on the Friday before the Test match.
They reckon it was the third largest gathering of humanity
in history, that there were six to seven million people
in Chicago that day to watch an open top bus
parade with the team. And Okay, he was angry because
they didn't do themselves justice.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
They didn't do what they should have.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Done, and they made it quite easy for Ireland to
win that game.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So talking about winning games, then what are the All
Blacks need to do to beat Ireland tomorrow morning?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I hope this is not taking as a facetious answer,
but they need to be playing, you know, sort of
ninety nine percent of the way that they can. You know,
they need to be almost at one hundred percent to
get this game. Well, that's how good Ireland are. If
you look back to the quarterfinal last year, you would
argue that New Zealand played at one hundred percent in Ireland,
who were brilliant on the night as well, played at
(04:22):
ninety nine percent and it was that one percent difference
that got New Zealand over the line in the end
because it was a great game. Both teams were, you know,
played well. I think that's a similar kind of scenario
you're looking at again tomorrow if they both.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Play at their best.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
As you know, as little moment time isn't it's a
drop pass, it's a miskick. It's that kind of territory
if they both play well. So New Zealand need to
be sure that they that this is the best game
of the season that they produce. They need to be
a lot more accurate than they were at Twickenham. And
accuracy means, you know, with everything with decision making, execution,
certainly discipline because they're given away far too many penalties
(04:58):
still and that's hurting them.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And I think if you look at Ireland.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They're very they're very good at not giving cheap penalties away.
They keep the pressure on teams and they make teams
work really hard and if you Zealand give them easy
outs with dumb penalties, that will be the difference between
the two. They won't win if the penalty current is
higher than ten yep.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I would agree with it there. If they bring their
a game, I think the All Blacks could be unbeatable,
but we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gregor.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I'll let you go to your next appointment. Thank you
for joining us this morning out of Dublin. Thanks very much,
Gregor Paul here and of course he'll be part of
the commentary team with Elliott Smith tomorrow morning. Kick off
of the game is a ten past nine tomorrow morning
out of Aviva Stadium in Dublin and the build up
will start at nine o'clock right here on gold Sport.
(05:45):
You can listen to it on the radio if you
happen to be at the kids' cricket matches somewhere around
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