June 13, 2024 • 7 mins
Senior Political Reporter for NewsTalk ZB - Sophie Trigger talks,
Chinese Premier visit, Agriculture taken out of ETS, inquiry into the claims of the census data breach at the Marae.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broadcasting live from Mystery Creek the Country Sport Breakfast with
Brian Kelly on Gold Sport joining us to talk politics,
senior political reporter out of Newstalk's AB So if you
trigger morning.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Sophie, Good morning BK. How are you look.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm very very well, thank you. I thought the Chinese
premier might have visited here. Really, you'd be fascinated by
you the few days of Mystery Creek, wouldn't he.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, maybe that's still on the cards. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
So he's in New Zealand at the moment, and it's
the first time since what twenty seventeen we've had the
Chinese delegation here.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, that's correct. So Chinese Premier Lee Chung arrived in
Wellington yesterday and yeah, as you say, the highest ranking
Chinese official to visit New Zealand in seven years. So
I spent the afternoon at Government House yesterday where he
was having meetings with the Prime Minister. And there are
several key pieces of contexts that make the stakes quite
(00:56):
high for this meeting. So firstly, of course, the New
Zealand government has expressed an interest in exploring Pillar two
of the Orchest Security Deal, considered by some to be
a move that would alienate China, and Staff also published
a story yesterday alleging decades of foreign interference in New
Zealand from the Chinese Communist Party, and we of course
(01:17):
learned earlier this year that New Zealand's Parliament had been
targeted in a China linked cyber attack in twenty twenty one,
which the Chinese embassy denied. But alongside these areas of difference, however,
China is New Zealand's largest trading partner. Two way trade
was worth nearly thirty eight billion dollars last year, and
(01:39):
with the government pledging to double the value of exports
in the next ten years, you would think it's hoped
trade would grow further still. So Luxon had previously described
the relationship as significant, complex and resilient, saying that they're
engage where they're shared interest and speak frankly and constructively
where there are differences, and yesterday both Luxen and Lee
(02:01):
did allude to some of these differences when addressing media,
and later Laxen admitted that there was about a fifty
to fifty split of differences and agreements in his conversation
with Lee.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I saw that that was a fascinating, honest assistment
of it, really, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah? I was. I was quite surprised. He was so
frank about it. Actually, he said both orcus and foreign
interference were raised, along with human rights abuse in China,
and Lee accepted those differences as well, and a whole
bunch of agreements were also signed by officials from the
two countries and areas of trade, education and tourism, and
(02:40):
China also announced it would allow visa free travel for Kiwis.
So the visit continues today with Premier Lea attending some
engagement in Auckland around other areas of shared interest like business,
agritech and education.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hope his raincoat. Okay, let's talk agriculture because we're live
at the few days. Let's be taken out of ETS.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Isn't it Yes? As you well know, BK, it's been
a busy couple of days for agricultural news in New Zealand,
and of course, one of the biggest pieces of news
is the announcement that the governments stopped agriculture from being
included in the emissions trading scheme and established hairwoker Echinoa. Now,
of course, the ETS introduced in two thousand and eight
(03:24):
puts a price on missions, meaning certain sectors of the
economy are charged for greenhouse gases and hairwoker echinoa with
a partnership between government agencies, the Primary Sector and EWEI
that came up with a proposal for how to price
emissions intended as an alternative to bringing agriculture into the ETS.
Now national support for the initiative after the previous government
(03:47):
rejected the group's original proposal and the most recent labor
government legislated to include agriculture in the ETS by twenty
twenty five, but now a law change will remove agri culture,
animal processes, and fertilizer companies from being included all together.
So Harwalker Echinoa has been formally disbanded, with Agriculture Minister
(04:10):
Todd McClay saying it's now clear the process has failed
and is no longer tenable. In its place, the government's
announced it will establish a new pass the Sector Group
to tackle biogenic methane. Now, Climate Change Minister Simon What
says nationals still committed to pricing agricultural missions by twenty thirty,
(04:31):
but the Green Party says the government's just kicking the
climate action can down the road and disregarding the climate
and environment. Labor meanwhile says the changes will lead to
delays which will make decarbonizing much more expensive in the
long run. So a big change there, and you'll know
better than me, BK. But I'm assuming the government received
(04:52):
a much warmer welcome from farmers at field Days this
week because of this announcement.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well that's probably explains why so many farmers wanting around
with miles on their faces. And actually, we said Chloe
Swarbrick here on the first day of a few days,
and I actually was quite surprised that, you know, she
got a bit of a welcome, that there was no
stoning or anything like that, or no signs of protest,
so she was allow, she was very brave to tune
up here. Really, we'll just finally we'll touch on the
(05:19):
claims that the inquiry into the claims of census data
breach at the Mariah So where are you at with that?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, So earlier this week, the Prime Minister announced the
Public Service Commission would conduct an independent inquiry following allegations
to Patimari misused census data during the twenty twenty three
election campaign. Now it's really important to stress right from
the outset that the party denies the claims and also
welcomed the investigation. But it was a story broken first
(05:49):
a couple of weeks ago in the Sunday Star Times
in which former workers at Manu the Wami claimed private
data from census forms was photocopied and entered into a database.
Believe was then used to target voters in the Tamakimikodo electorate,
and questions were also raised as to whether the party
used wiper outa trust work on the COVID nineteen vaccination
(06:11):
drive for political purposes. So the Police, stats En said,
and the Privacy Commissioner are looking into the allegation, but
the Prime Ministers decided the Public Service Commission is the
best body to conduct an arms length independent investigation into
these claims. So Luxon says he didn't want the inquiry
to cut across the existing investigations, but that it was
(06:33):
important agencies weren't left to review themselves and that there
was an independent oversight of the whole picture of government
agency actions. So he says it would cover actions taken
by Statsen said the Ministry of Health New Zealand Tepuni
Kokai ordering a Tamadiki, the Ministry of Social Development, as
well as any other public service agency the Commissioner considered
(06:56):
appropriate to include to quite a wide ranging investigation. They're
infecting affecting a lot of government agencies and let's.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Hope it doesn't drag on for too long. Sophie, always
great to catch up.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thank you so much, fantastic K. Thanks
Broadcasting live from Mystery Creek the Country Sport Breakfast with
Brian Kelly on Gold Sport joining us to talk politics,
senior political reporter out of Newstalk's AB So if you
trigger morning.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Sophie, Good morning BK. How are you look.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm very very well, thank you. I thought the Chinese
premier might have visited here. Really, you'd be fascinated by
you the few days of Mystery Creek, wouldn't he.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, maybe that's still on the cards. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
So he's in New Zealand at the moment, and it's
the first time since what twenty seventeen we've had the
Chinese delegation here.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, that's correct. So Chinese Premier Lee Chung arrived in
Wellington yesterday and yeah, as you say, the highest ranking
Chinese official to visit New Zealand in seven years. So
I spent the afternoon at Government House yesterday where he
was having meetings with the Prime Minister. And there are
several key pieces of contexts that make the stakes quite
(00:56):
high for this meeting. So firstly, of course, the New
Zealand government has expressed an interest in exploring Pillar two
of the Orchest Security Deal, considered by some to be
a move that would alienate China, and Staff also published
a story yesterday alleging decades of foreign interference in New
Zealand from the Chinese Communist Party, and we of course
(01:17):
learned earlier this year that New Zealand's Parliament had been
targeted in a China linked cyber attack in twenty twenty one,
which the Chinese embassy denied. But alongside these areas of difference, however,
China is New Zealand's largest trading partner. Two way trade
was worth nearly thirty eight billion dollars last year, and
(01:39):
with the government pledging to double the value of exports
in the next ten years, you would think it's hoped
trade would grow further still. So Luxon had previously described
the relationship as significant, complex and resilient, saying that they're
engage where they're shared interest and speak frankly and constructively
where there are differences, and yesterday both Luxen and Lee
(02:01):
did allude to some of these differences when addressing media,
and later Laxen admitted that there was about a fifty
to fifty split of differences and agreements in his conversation
with Lee.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I saw that that was a fascinating, honest assistment
of it, really, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah? I was. I was quite surprised. He was so
frank about it. Actually, he said both orcus and foreign
interference were raised, along with human rights abuse in China,
and Lee accepted those differences as well, and a whole
bunch of agreements were also signed by officials from the
two countries and areas of trade, education and tourism, and
(02:40):
China also announced it would allow visa free travel for Kiwis.
So the visit continues today with Premier Lea attending some
engagement in Auckland around other areas of shared interest like business,
agritech and education.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hope his raincoat. Okay, let's talk agriculture because we're live
at the few days. Let's be taken out of ETS.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Isn't it Yes? As you well know, BK, it's been
a busy couple of days for agricultural news in New Zealand,
and of course, one of the biggest pieces of news
is the announcement that the governments stopped agriculture from being
included in the emissions trading scheme and established hairwoker Echinoa. Now,
of course, the ETS introduced in two thousand and eight
(03:24):
puts a price on missions, meaning certain sectors of the
economy are charged for greenhouse gases and hairwoker echinoa with
a partnership between government agencies, the Primary Sector and EWEI
that came up with a proposal for how to price
emissions intended as an alternative to bringing agriculture into the ETS.
Now national support for the initiative after the previous government
(03:47):
rejected the group's original proposal and the most recent labor
government legislated to include agriculture in the ETS by twenty
twenty five, but now a law change will remove agri culture,
animal processes, and fertilizer companies from being included all together.
So Harwalker Echinoa has been formally disbanded, with Agriculture Minister
(04:10):
Todd McClay saying it's now clear the process has failed
and is no longer tenable. In its place, the government's
announced it will establish a new pass the Sector Group
to tackle biogenic methane. Now, Climate Change Minister Simon What
says nationals still committed to pricing agricultural missions by twenty thirty,
(04:31):
but the Green Party says the government's just kicking the
climate action can down the road and disregarding the climate
and environment. Labor meanwhile says the changes will lead to
delays which will make decarbonizing much more expensive in the
long run. So a big change there, and you'll know
better than me, BK. But I'm assuming the government received
(04:52):
a much warmer welcome from farmers at field Days this
week because of this announcement.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well that's probably explains why so many farmers wanting around
with miles on their faces. And actually, we said Chloe
Swarbrick here on the first day of a few days,
and I actually was quite surprised that, you know, she
got a bit of a welcome, that there was no
stoning or anything like that, or no signs of protest,
so she was allow, she was very brave to tune
up here. Really, we'll just finally we'll touch on the
(05:19):
claims that the inquiry into the claims of census data
breach at the Mariah So where are you at with that?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, So earlier this week, the Prime Minister announced the
Public Service Commission would conduct an independent inquiry following allegations
to Patimari misused census data during the twenty twenty three
election campaign. Now it's really important to stress right from
the outset that the party denies the claims and also
welcomed the investigation. But it was a story broken first
(05:49):
a couple of weeks ago in the Sunday Star Times
in which former workers at Manu the Wami claimed private
data from census forms was photocopied and entered into a database.
Believe was then used to target voters in the Tamakimikodo electorate,
and questions were also raised as to whether the party
used wiper outa trust work on the COVID nineteen vaccination
(06:11):
drive for political purposes. So the Police, stats En said,
and the Privacy Commissioner are looking into the allegation, but
the Prime Ministers decided the Public Service Commission is the
best body to conduct an arms length independent investigation into
these claims. So Luxon says he didn't want the inquiry
to cut across the existing investigations, but that it was
(06:33):
important agencies weren't left to review themselves and that there
was an independent oversight of the whole picture of government
agency actions. So he says it would cover actions taken
by Statsen said the Ministry of Health New Zealand Tepuni
Kokai ordering a Tamadiki, the Ministry of Social Development, as
well as any other public service agency the Commissioner considered
(06:56):
appropriate to include to quite a wide ranging investigation. They're
infecting affecting a lot of government agencies and let's.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Hope it doesn't drag on for too long. Sophie, always
great to catch up.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thank you so much, fantastic K. Thanks
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