November 25, 2024 • 6 mins
Just before the All Blacks jump on the big bird home - Our man with the team Elliott Smith sits down for a one on one Interview with All Blacks coach Scott Robertson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International rugby coverage on the country. Sport Breakfast is proudly
brought to you by Access Solutions, elevating you and your
business to a higher level. How would you you look
back at like ess that year? I know we're only
speaking Jesus straight into it. How would you look back
at the year? Fourteen games? Big year? What's your reflections?
I guess immediately after this game.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You look when you start, when you know you got
fourteen tests, which is the biggest calendar anyone's ever done,
and you know you're going to play top teams in
the world, especially when they're away. You know, nine tests
away and five at home. You want to get off
to a really good start head and turning game. As
I've mentioned before, that was that was the toughest one
for us because we we didn't get enough right on
(00:43):
the night, A couple of calls it and go away.
Didn't manage back of that, so we didn't pretty quickly,
especially at test level in South Africa. How small margins
in the game is just a test much footy shows
the game of moments ends when you're learning because everything
(01:04):
is new, compounds you kept the new coach, new staff
need a lot of everything, so I look just you know,
that's why tonight I'll be honest a little bit frustrated
because I don't think we've ever been betting on if
it's all care like we've been in every single game.
Start of tonight wasn't quite there, but we got there
in the end, like the whole game wasn't we didn't.
(01:27):
We did some great stuff. So I think I'm not
sure if I answered the old question around the year,
but those are just my first and reflections.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What have you learned about I guess test rugby and
how you mentioned some of those things there, but it
seems like, you know, compared to it's obviously super aguiant.
She used to that the margins are so finite.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah they are really fine. Defense is good, you know
you but the options opportunities are less. Top six seven
teams there closer than they've ever been, so a lot
of games, majority of games come down in one score
or just just at the end of the game. So
(02:06):
as you know, Argentina are a quality so every every
time you play a top sixteen is going to come
down to an unrest or. The differences are less now
than they were before Test foot as the Titus has
ever been, not talking about every team, but a lot
of those top teams. So each week is really important,
(02:29):
and how do you select that team to win that
test and also win and develop, you know, and that's
the fine balance, you know. Could I have been a
little bit riskier maybe? Could I have been a little
bit more risk adverse? Maybe? And that that's the out
and skilled you learn along the way.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Did you think that those days of a team standing
hid and shoulders above another goal and test raking?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh look, I thinks they ever go out currently, aren't they?
You know, they can roll out a lot of players,
a lot of experienced plays test mus footy needs experienced players.
There's the number one that you need experience, you know,
as we know we've talked about before, specially with you know,
how many debutants you have that haven't got experience? How
they come on? How do they make it and back
(03:13):
do or leave their little mark in their period of time?
You know they're learning to play test probly not just
change games and test matches. So you know, how do
you crack depth in your squad? They have a lot
of experience, but also blood young fellows to come through
your players to come through and pick them for the
test that's you need to win in front of you.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
How much of I guess twenty twenty seven do you
now look at You know, you've had your first year
charge and you now build towards twenty twenty seven and
from twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Five debutantes, you know, like and how much time you
give them. You know, obviously the Peter Archives and the
Wall of Cities and the cortez Is and those guys
are coming on and guys come of age. You know,
we're three hundred caps better already for this year and
the charity of the squad now now it's when you
give them opportunities for next year. Now because the name
(04:00):
Razor works. Then you know that we know all the
coaching and management group. We've got everything in bed. So
when we come together ten days before we play France,
it's not new. We're re embedding what we've done before
and what's going to want the Test match and so
that that's that's exciting. Part of next makes you looking forward.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
To next year. Okay, I get it all. This team
gets it about test rugby.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I think probably for seventy minutes of that South
African Test and the first Test We've played some we've
played some incredible football, but there's been moments where the
game has changed and turned and we just haven't wrestled
it back. You know, last week was was great Ireland.
You know, there was a French game and then obviously
there's Island game shows both sides of the ball and
(04:50):
they're kicking and kick pressure and the mall and the scrum.
Everything that you need to win test football because it
come together. So there's lots of moments where you think, okay,
we've got it, but you never really got it. It's
always a it's a game of improvement.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Last just last week for me, what's the one thing
that's going to be the blast front of mind over
the next six seven months as you contemplate summer. But
then France, what do you think back to or look
forward to for next time?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I look here review. We've got a few projects in
the off season. So we've got projects that you look
at where the game's heading, you know, is it coming
more with a power game or ball and handgame? Is
how our teams attacking, how the teams are defending the
because each week is a different it's different, you know,
you they cackled different tonight than they did the week before,
(05:39):
and so, well, what do you need in your attack
and defense to beat the team that's in front of you?
So how do you create all those little structures and
little tweaks during the week to get the best out
of your group. And so there we are projects on that,
and then we're looking at a bit of cohesion and
what's required and the next to the three so years
to get squad to.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
To get it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
In twenty seven, Elliott Smith with a one on one
really interesting interview with Raisor Robertson.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I like Razor.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He's upfront. He you know, he answers the questions. He
doesn't take himself too seriously. But at the same time,
he's the all Black coach and he knows what he's doing.
And I think he's got his head screwed on right.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Other people may just
International rugby coverage on the country. Sport Breakfast is proudly
brought to you by Access Solutions, elevating you and your
business to a higher level. How would you you look
back at like ess that year? I know we're only
speaking Jesus straight into it. How would you look back
at the year? Fourteen games? Big year? What's your reflections?
I guess immediately after this game.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You look when you start, when you know you got
fourteen tests, which is the biggest calendar anyone's ever done,
and you know you're going to play top teams in
the world, especially when they're away. You know, nine tests
away and five at home. You want to get off
to a really good start head and turning game. As
I've mentioned before, that was that was the toughest one
for us because we we didn't get enough right on
(00:43):
the night, A couple of calls it and go away.
Didn't manage back of that, so we didn't pretty quickly,
especially at test level in South Africa. How small margins
in the game is just a test much footy shows
the game of moments ends when you're learning because everything
(01:04):
is new, compounds you kept the new coach, new staff
need a lot of everything, so I look just you know,
that's why tonight I'll be honest a little bit frustrated
because I don't think we've ever been betting on if
it's all care like we've been in every single game.
Start of tonight wasn't quite there, but we got there
in the end, like the whole game wasn't we didn't.
(01:27):
We did some great stuff. So I think I'm not
sure if I answered the old question around the year,
but those are just my first and reflections.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What have you learned about I guess test rugby and
how you mentioned some of those things there, but it
seems like, you know, compared to it's obviously super aguiant.
She used to that the margins are so finite.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah they are really fine. Defense is good, you know
you but the options opportunities are less. Top six seven
teams there closer than they've ever been, so a lot
of games, majority of games come down in one score
or just just at the end of the game. So
(02:06):
as you know, Argentina are a quality so every every
time you play a top sixteen is going to come
down to an unrest or. The differences are less now
than they were before Test foot as the Titus has
ever been, not talking about every team, but a lot
of those top teams. So each week is really important,
(02:29):
and how do you select that team to win that
test and also win and develop, you know, and that's
the fine balance, you know. Could I have been a
little bit riskier maybe? Could I have been a little
bit more risk adverse? Maybe? And that that's the out
and skilled you learn along the way.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Did you think that those days of a team standing
hid and shoulders above another goal and test raking?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh look, I thinks they ever go out currently, aren't they?
You know, they can roll out a lot of players,
a lot of experienced plays test mus footy needs experienced players.
There's the number one that you need experience, you know,
as we know we've talked about before, specially with you know,
how many debutants you have that haven't got experience? How
they come on? How do they make it and back
(03:13):
do or leave their little mark in their period of time?
You know they're learning to play test probly not just
change games and test matches. So you know, how do
you crack depth in your squad? They have a lot
of experience, but also blood young fellows to come through
your players to come through and pick them for the
test that's you need to win in front of you.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
How much of I guess twenty twenty seven do you
now look at You know, you've had your first year
charge and you now build towards twenty twenty seven and
from twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Five debutantes, you know, like and how much time you
give them. You know, obviously the Peter Archives and the
Wall of Cities and the cortez Is and those guys
are coming on and guys come of age. You know,
we're three hundred caps better already for this year and
the charity of the squad now now it's when you
give them opportunities for next year. Now because the name
(04:00):
Razor works. Then you know that we know all the
coaching and management group. We've got everything in bed. So
when we come together ten days before we play France,
it's not new. We're re embedding what we've done before
and what's going to want the Test match and so
that that's that's exciting. Part of next makes you looking forward.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
To next year. Okay, I get it all. This team
gets it about test rugby.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I think probably for seventy minutes of that South
African Test and the first Test We've played some we've
played some incredible football, but there's been moments where the
game has changed and turned and we just haven't wrestled
it back. You know, last week was was great Ireland.
You know, there was a French game and then obviously
there's Island game shows both sides of the ball and
(04:50):
they're kicking and kick pressure and the mall and the scrum.
Everything that you need to win test football because it
come together. So there's lots of moments where you think, okay,
we've got it, but you never really got it. It's
always a it's a game of improvement.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Last just last week for me, what's the one thing
that's going to be the blast front of mind over
the next six seven months as you contemplate summer. But
then France, what do you think back to or look
forward to for next time?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I look here review. We've got a few projects in
the off season. So we've got projects that you look
at where the game's heading, you know, is it coming
more with a power game or ball and handgame? Is
how our teams attacking, how the teams are defending the
because each week is a different it's different, you know,
you they cackled different tonight than they did the week before,
(05:39):
and so, well, what do you need in your attack
and defense to beat the team that's in front of you?
So how do you create all those little structures and
little tweaks during the week to get the best out
of your group. And so there we are projects on that,
and then we're looking at a bit of cohesion and
what's required and the next to the three so years
to get squad to.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
To get it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
In twenty seven, Elliott Smith with a one on one
really interesting interview with Raisor Robertson.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I like Razor.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He's upfront. He you know, he answers the questions. He
doesn't take himself too seriously. But at the same time,
he's the all Black coach and he knows what he's doing.
And I think he's got his head screwed on right.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Other people may just
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