November 21, 2024 • 16 mins
Regional development has been a major focus of the coalition government.
The Fast Track Bill, the return of oil and gas exploration and the Regional Infrastructure Fund is all promised to get work back to the regions and help them thrive.
And the man running the show is the so-called Matua of Mining and Prince of the Provinces, Shane Jones.
He’s the Minister for oceans and fisheries, regional development, and resources – and there’s not an endangered frog or a surfing hippie that’s going to get in his way.
Today on The Front Page, Jones joins us to discuss his reckons on what’s best for the regions, and whether you can fight climate change at the same time as backing provincial New Zealand.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Kyoda.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a
daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. Regional development
has been a major focus of the coalition government. The
fast Track Bill, the return of oil and gas exploration
and the Regional Infrastructure Fund is all promised to get
(00:27):
work back to the regions and help them thrive. And
the man running the show is the so called Marthawa
of Mining and the Prince of the Provinces, Shane Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
He's the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries, Regional Development and
Resources and there's not an endangered frog or a surfing
hippie that's going to get in his way. Today on
the Front Page, the Minister joins us to discuss his
reckons on what's best for the regions and whether you
can find climate change. At the same time as backing
(01:07):
provincial New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Minister, you're hosting fifteen regional growth summits around them or too.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
What's been the talk on the ground so.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Far, well, each area is concerned about a decline in
economic activity, each area working to bring forward different proposals.
I've said to them, please bring them forward in an
integrated fashion and hopefully proposals that won't be caught in
(01:43):
some thicket of not being able to get a statutory
consens It's probably fair to say that they're very open
and embracing that going out there to face the public.
I've taken some of my colleagues with me. I was
an Invercargill Tama the DOC Minister, because obviously DOC is
(02:06):
a major force down there in the South Island. I
was there with the Minister of Tertiary Education, the local member.
When I've been to Babe Plenty Podd McLay, he came
and spoke. So although I've been the tip of the spear,
I have been supported by other MPs and other ministers
(02:29):
as well, and it's given an opportunity, I reckon for
some business leaders and civic leaders to have CONNOHU get
the con corridor engagement with us in their space.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, you're known as the Prince of the Provinces. That's
got quite a ring to it, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Haha. You know, anything that appeals at a poetical level
has to have purpose and genuine meaning at a practical level.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The alliteration's quite nice as well, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I'm a bit of an illiterate to king.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Look, one of the main killers in the regions at
the moment seems to be power prices. We've had a
number of businesses shut down in recent months. How concerned
are you for these towns that might be reliant on
just one core business to keep everyone employed well.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Without a doubt, and some of our areas we're going
through a major structural adjustment. It disturbs me deeply that
the current market settings and the behavior of our large
power companies otherwise known as Gen Taylor's, is such that
they are unable to offer competitive power prices to a
(03:42):
range of industrial users. Now that's both a legacy problem,
but it makes me incredibly apprehensive if what we're going
to witness over the short to medium terms the de
industrialization of New Zealand, that's deeply at odds with what
(04:03):
New Zealand First stands for. And of course the New
Zealand First Party has campaigned long and hard to change
the settings of our electricity market and we have got
some work underway involving the Commerce Commission, the Electricity Authority.
We've got an independent analysis and review about to take place.
(04:25):
I've long since made my mind up that unless we
can deliver energy security and more affordable energy prices, then
we're doing our country a major disservice.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So if you've had eight hundred and eighty five thousand
people going to this one outlet, you can get a
certain massive unit cost of power reduction for older people.
That was our idea, and difficult it is trying to
get them to understand that they went down this other idea.
A whole lot of people are getting powered compensational the
winter time who can afford it, and yet it's still
(05:03):
not enough for a lot of people who can't afford
it where in the very cold regions or if they're
in the wrong house, they're still going to feel the
cold for about six months a year.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You've promised the likes of rare frogs and other wildlife
will not be allowed to get in the way of
economic development. You said, no longer would regional jobs be
held ransom or hijacked by a random frog or multi
colored skink. Can you talk me through that, because you've
got to know that that's rubbed some people up the
(05:35):
wrong way.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, no one is going to go to bed tonight
doubting where I stand in relation to the centrality of
great and the priority that the country should place upon development.
I've been constantly shouted down by the NGOs and the
opposition politicians, but there are battalions of silent New Zealanders
(06:02):
who quietly agree with me. I'm not saying that we're
going to go on a massive extinction drive, but I'm
not going to sit back and allow the weaponization.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You promised the rare frogs and other wildlife will not
be allowed to get in a way of economic You said,
no longer would regional jobs be held ransom or hijacked
by a random.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Frog or multi skill. He taught me through that, because
got to know that that's the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Too many special intrascripts to the detriment of jobs, growth
and economic resilience in regional New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
What if it's a family of brown spotted key we
getting in the way of something.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think that there's no shortage of options for the developers,
road builders, infrastructure builders to mitigate. And if it requires
an amendment a project within reason, that's I think what
would be expected. But this business of saying that the
(07:07):
country cannot advance because of a couple of dozen kiwis
that can be translocated to another area.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't buy that, speaking of NGOs, can climate change
in regional development happen both at the same time.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I believe so, and in fact it is happening in
an integrated way. That the deeper riddle is how do
we afford the costs associated we're restructuring our society to
meet climate goals if we don't have an economic surplus.
I think that the pendulum here in New Zealand swinging
back to a more sensible location in relation to climate change,
(07:44):
shrillness and historyonics. More and more people realize that climate
change is only one problem. We've got a host of
other severe problems in New Zealand and it's certainly, in
my view, not the priority problem.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, you've mentioned that there's a of a hysteria around it.
Are you downplaying climate change?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Oh? I'm just saying that of all the challenges confronting
me as a New Zealand politician and confronting our nation,
climate change is not the be all an indoor climate
change in my view, over the last regime has been
turned into a religion, and when I'm on a religious experience,
I've got other ways of enjoying that rather than chanting
(08:26):
climate change odes.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you think Northland has been ignored for too long?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I think a lot of regions can make that claim,
but in my experience that the fact that Northland is
the only place in our national roading infrastructure that's got
a toll on it shows that there's been a habit
of regarding the North as a sunny destination but suitable
(09:06):
for a quick visit, a spot of R and R
and back to a more profitable part of New Zealand.
And I hope to turn that perception around.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think I'd invite anyone to take a stab at
driving up North and then they'll probably realize how neglected
it has been.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Hey, yeah, the road is a goat track. There's a
particularly egregious piece of roading up there, known as Brn Durman's.
But look a host of regions are hammering Wellington to
have their roads fixed up. The ty Tolkido Road probably
worse than most, but I don't want to deprecate the
fact that other regions are concerned as well.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Greenpeace seems to think that you're in cahoots with mining,
saying Shane Jones notoriously connected to and funded by the
mining industry is now the Minister for Resources.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What do you make of that statement?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
No, the funding donations that I've declared are from the
fishing industry.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Are you interherites with the fishing industry chain.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I used to be the Chairman of Sea Laws, I
used to be the chairman of the MALDI Fisheries Commission.
I've had a long and proud association with fisheries and
I regard myself as the most exquisitely qualified politician to
have ever held the fisheries portfolio. Now, I know this
annoys some of the Green beetles, but they're never ever
(10:33):
going to accept my pro industry, pro growth agenda, and
I just have to acknowledge that their players and their
stakeholders in the broader political system. In respect of mining,
we are going to turbocharge mining. We are going to
increase our export revenue from mining, our job prospects in mining,
(10:55):
and it'll be done within guardrails. But we're not going
to have mining tainted and stigmatized by false information and
have it blighted by histrionics. And that's pretty much what
the Green Party and their fellow travelers represent.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, the government plans to repeal the twenty eighteen ban
on new offshore oil and gas exploration. Hey, and that's
been seen as a controversial move.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh, No, it's an inoffensive set of changes. It's just
designed to increase New Zealand's fuel and energy resilience. Once again,
there's been a lot of catastrophizing and it just depends
whether or not New Zealand wants to enjoy economic sovereignty
a greater level of national resilience. I don't pay much
(11:48):
attention to these screeching voices who are trying to confuse
our young people in the education system that the planet
is boiling. All of that is self serving rhetoric designed
to boost green parties appeal to the voting public, and
there hopefully more and more people are accepting that you
need balance and common sense in these issues. We don't
(12:11):
need any more bouts of verbal diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, climate change protesters do seem to follow you around
wherever you go, Shane. When you rock up somewhere and
you see them standing out front, what do you think
I engage with them.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And confront them straight away. I don't go there to
be antagonistic, but I allow them to see that we
may have a different view, but I will not be
cowed and longless we're respectful to each other and no
one's trying to punch me in the o's because rest
assured the person who does that to me, a Green
member or a gang member, they'll live to regret it.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
We've got to be really clear that absolutely we should
be having infrastructure projects, but that are determined by those affected.
And when we see zombie projects coming back to life,
those are not being determined. They are only being driven
by those who are looking atter the super wealthy. And
that's what this government's been about from day one.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
What do you make of people pouring over your diary
and seeing who, from what companies, from what sectors you're
having dinner with?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Do some people just not trust you?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh? I just think that it's a level of fascination
that had a small minority of nosy neighbors have as
to how I'm doing my job. There's a higher level
of scrutiny, I think for anyone who has outspoken and
support of mining and commercial commercialization of our natural resources,
(13:43):
including fisheries, it just comes with the territory.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
When it comes to mining and oil and gas exploration,
is there a way to do it that we haven't
done before.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Is there a way to do it that doesn't harm
the environment as much? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Oh, yeah, confident that we'll have the guard rails in place.
But at the end of the day, if people want
to maintain the quality of life that we've got as
a first world nation, then we're going to have to
use our resources. And when you use the resources, you
will be disrupting the natural environment. And these are the
trade offs that I look forward to not only justifying,
(14:20):
but leading.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And when it comes to timeline, I mean when can
we see that oil and exploration.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Hopefully by the prior to Christmas the bill will be
fairly embedded within the statutory landscape.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And is that the same with the fast Track Bill?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, we're going through the process at
the moment of sort of shepherding the fast Track legislation
through Parliament and I look forward to it being passed
as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And Minister in twenty twenty six, when we're heading back
to the polls, what would you consider a measure of
success that you would like those voters in the region
to hold you against.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I think that some of the larger projects that are
in the fast track, that they've managed to navigate the
statutory consent process. That we have dedicated the entirety of
the Regional in Infrastructure Fund to projects such as flooding resilience,
and that we've kept our word and that is the
promise of delivery as a New Zealand First MP as
(15:21):
a part of the coalition government. And mate, I must
go see ya.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Thanks for joining us, Minister. That's it for this episode
of the Front Page. You can read more about today's
stories and extensive news coverage at enzadherld dot co dot nz.
The Front Page is produced by Ethan Sells and Richard Martin,
who is also our sound engineer.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I'm Chelsea Daniels.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Subscribe to The Front Page on iHeartRadio or where you
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look behind the headlines.
Kyoda.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a
daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. Regional development
has been a major focus of the coalition government. The
fast Track Bill, the return of oil and gas exploration
and the Regional Infrastructure Fund is all promised to get
(00:27):
work back to the regions and help them thrive. And
the man running the show is the so called Marthawa
of Mining and the Prince of the Provinces, Shane Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
He's the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries, Regional Development and
Resources and there's not an endangered frog or a surfing
hippie that's going to get in his way. Today on
the Front Page, the Minister joins us to discuss his
reckons on what's best for the regions and whether you
can find climate change. At the same time as backing
(01:07):
provincial New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Minister, you're hosting fifteen regional growth summits around them or too.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
What's been the talk on the ground so.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Far, well, each area is concerned about a decline in
economic activity, each area working to bring forward different proposals.
I've said to them, please bring them forward in an
integrated fashion and hopefully proposals that won't be caught in
(01:43):
some thicket of not being able to get a statutory
consens It's probably fair to say that they're very open
and embracing that going out there to face the public.
I've taken some of my colleagues with me. I was
an Invercargill Tama the DOC Minister, because obviously DOC is
(02:06):
a major force down there in the South Island. I
was there with the Minister of Tertiary Education, the local member.
When I've been to Babe Plenty Podd McLay, he came
and spoke. So although I've been the tip of the spear,
I have been supported by other MPs and other ministers
(02:29):
as well, and it's given an opportunity, I reckon for
some business leaders and civic leaders to have CONNOHU get
the con corridor engagement with us in their space.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, you're known as the Prince of the Provinces. That's
got quite a ring to it, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Haha. You know, anything that appeals at a poetical level
has to have purpose and genuine meaning at a practical level.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The alliteration's quite nice as well, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I'm a bit of an illiterate to king.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Look, one of the main killers in the regions at
the moment seems to be power prices. We've had a
number of businesses shut down in recent months. How concerned
are you for these towns that might be reliant on
just one core business to keep everyone employed well.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Without a doubt, and some of our areas we're going
through a major structural adjustment. It disturbs me deeply that
the current market settings and the behavior of our large
power companies otherwise known as Gen Taylor's, is such that
they are unable to offer competitive power prices to a
(03:42):
range of industrial users. Now that's both a legacy problem,
but it makes me incredibly apprehensive if what we're going
to witness over the short to medium terms the de
industrialization of New Zealand, that's deeply at odds with what
(04:03):
New Zealand First stands for. And of course the New
Zealand First Party has campaigned long and hard to change
the settings of our electricity market and we have got
some work underway involving the Commerce Commission, the Electricity Authority.
We've got an independent analysis and review about to take place.
(04:25):
I've long since made my mind up that unless we
can deliver energy security and more affordable energy prices, then
we're doing our country a major disservice.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So if you've had eight hundred and eighty five thousand
people going to this one outlet, you can get a
certain massive unit cost of power reduction for older people.
That was our idea, and difficult it is trying to
get them to understand that they went down this other idea.
A whole lot of people are getting powered compensational the
winter time who can afford it, and yet it's still
(05:03):
not enough for a lot of people who can't afford
it where in the very cold regions or if they're
in the wrong house, they're still going to feel the
cold for about six months a year.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You've promised the likes of rare frogs and other wildlife
will not be allowed to get in the way of
economic development. You said, no longer would regional jobs be
held ransom or hijacked by a random frog or multi
colored skink. Can you talk me through that, because you've
got to know that that's rubbed some people up the
(05:35):
wrong way.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, no one is going to go to bed tonight
doubting where I stand in relation to the centrality of
great and the priority that the country should place upon development.
I've been constantly shouted down by the NGOs and the
opposition politicians, but there are battalions of silent New Zealanders
(06:02):
who quietly agree with me. I'm not saying that we're
going to go on a massive extinction drive, but I'm
not going to sit back and allow the weaponization.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You promised the rare frogs and other wildlife will not
be allowed to get in a way of economic You said,
no longer would regional jobs be held ransom or hijacked
by a random.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Frog or multi skill. He taught me through that, because
got to know that that's the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Too many special intrascripts to the detriment of jobs, growth
and economic resilience in regional New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
What if it's a family of brown spotted key we
getting in the way of something.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think that there's no shortage of options for the developers,
road builders, infrastructure builders to mitigate. And if it requires
an amendment a project within reason, that's I think what
would be expected. But this business of saying that the
(07:07):
country cannot advance because of a couple of dozen kiwis
that can be translocated to another area.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't buy that, speaking of NGOs, can climate change
in regional development happen both at the same time.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I believe so, and in fact it is happening in
an integrated way. That the deeper riddle is how do
we afford the costs associated we're restructuring our society to
meet climate goals if we don't have an economic surplus.
I think that the pendulum here in New Zealand swinging
back to a more sensible location in relation to climate change,
(07:44):
shrillness and historyonics. More and more people realize that climate
change is only one problem. We've got a host of
other severe problems in New Zealand and it's certainly, in
my view, not the priority problem.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, you've mentioned that there's a of a hysteria around it.
Are you downplaying climate change?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Oh? I'm just saying that of all the challenges confronting
me as a New Zealand politician and confronting our nation,
climate change is not the be all an indoor climate
change in my view, over the last regime has been
turned into a religion, and when I'm on a religious experience,
I've got other ways of enjoying that rather than chanting
(08:26):
climate change odes.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you think Northland has been ignored for too long?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I think a lot of regions can make that claim,
but in my experience that the fact that Northland is
the only place in our national roading infrastructure that's got
a toll on it shows that there's been a habit
of regarding the North as a sunny destination but suitable
(09:06):
for a quick visit, a spot of R and R
and back to a more profitable part of New Zealand.
And I hope to turn that perception around.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think I'd invite anyone to take a stab at
driving up North and then they'll probably realize how neglected
it has been.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Hey, yeah, the road is a goat track. There's a
particularly egregious piece of roading up there, known as Brn Durman's.
But look a host of regions are hammering Wellington to
have their roads fixed up. The ty Tolkido Road probably
worse than most, but I don't want to deprecate the
fact that other regions are concerned as well.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Greenpeace seems to think that you're in cahoots with mining,
saying Shane Jones notoriously connected to and funded by the
mining industry is now the Minister for Resources.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What do you make of that statement?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
No, the funding donations that I've declared are from the
fishing industry.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Are you interherites with the fishing industry chain.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I used to be the Chairman of Sea Laws, I
used to be the chairman of the MALDI Fisheries Commission.
I've had a long and proud association with fisheries and
I regard myself as the most exquisitely qualified politician to
have ever held the fisheries portfolio. Now, I know this
annoys some of the Green beetles, but they're never ever
(10:33):
going to accept my pro industry, pro growth agenda, and
I just have to acknowledge that their players and their
stakeholders in the broader political system. In respect of mining,
we are going to turbocharge mining. We are going to
increase our export revenue from mining, our job prospects in mining,
(10:55):
and it'll be done within guardrails. But we're not going
to have mining tainted and stigmatized by false information and
have it blighted by histrionics. And that's pretty much what
the Green Party and their fellow travelers represent.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, the government plans to repeal the twenty eighteen ban
on new offshore oil and gas exploration. Hey, and that's
been seen as a controversial move.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh, No, it's an inoffensive set of changes. It's just
designed to increase New Zealand's fuel and energy resilience. Once again,
there's been a lot of catastrophizing and it just depends
whether or not New Zealand wants to enjoy economic sovereignty
a greater level of national resilience. I don't pay much
(11:48):
attention to these screeching voices who are trying to confuse
our young people in the education system that the planet
is boiling. All of that is self serving rhetoric designed
to boost green parties appeal to the voting public, and
there hopefully more and more people are accepting that you
need balance and common sense in these issues. We don't
(12:11):
need any more bouts of verbal diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, climate change protesters do seem to follow you around
wherever you go, Shane. When you rock up somewhere and
you see them standing out front, what do you think
I engage with them.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And confront them straight away. I don't go there to
be antagonistic, but I allow them to see that we
may have a different view, but I will not be
cowed and longless we're respectful to each other and no
one's trying to punch me in the o's because rest
assured the person who does that to me, a Green
member or a gang member, they'll live to regret it.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
We've got to be really clear that absolutely we should
be having infrastructure projects, but that are determined by those affected.
And when we see zombie projects coming back to life,
those are not being determined. They are only being driven
by those who are looking atter the super wealthy. And
that's what this government's been about from day one.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
What do you make of people pouring over your diary
and seeing who, from what companies, from what sectors you're
having dinner with?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Do some people just not trust you?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh? I just think that it's a level of fascination
that had a small minority of nosy neighbors have as
to how I'm doing my job. There's a higher level
of scrutiny, I think for anyone who has outspoken and
support of mining and commercial commercialization of our natural resources,
(13:43):
including fisheries, it just comes with the territory.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
When it comes to mining and oil and gas exploration,
is there a way to do it that we haven't
done before.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Is there a way to do it that doesn't harm
the environment as much? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Oh, yeah, confident that we'll have the guard rails in place.
But at the end of the day, if people want
to maintain the quality of life that we've got as
a first world nation, then we're going to have to
use our resources. And when you use the resources, you
will be disrupting the natural environment. And these are the
trade offs that I look forward to not only justifying,
(14:20):
but leading.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And when it comes to timeline, I mean when can
we see that oil and exploration.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Hopefully by the prior to Christmas the bill will be
fairly embedded within the statutory landscape.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And is that the same with the fast Track Bill?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, we're going through the process at
the moment of sort of shepherding the fast Track legislation
through Parliament and I look forward to it being passed
as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And Minister in twenty twenty six, when we're heading back
to the polls, what would you consider a measure of
success that you would like those voters in the region
to hold you against.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I think that some of the larger projects that are
in the fast track, that they've managed to navigate the
statutory consent process. That we have dedicated the entirety of
the Regional in Infrastructure Fund to projects such as flooding resilience,
and that we've kept our word and that is the
promise of delivery as a New Zealand First MP as
(15:21):
a part of the coalition government. And mate, I must
go see ya.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
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stories and extensive news coverage at enzadherld dot co dot nz.
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