October 20, 2024 • 40 mins
With the start of spring comes copious amounts of pollen, but Dr John Cameron is here to help you avoid seasonal allergies.
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us name, but he should be familiar to you by now,
Doctor John Cameron.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Good afternoon, afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You are looking like you're fizzing at the bung. I'm
not sure that's some medical expressions.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Time, but I'm sure it's fizzing somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, I'm just happy.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
How should we be said?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Because I mean because you you do some work and
we've done some work. With the Black Caps. Is there
anything to do with just the fact that they were
forty six?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
All out that you're a Black Caps with India the
forty six.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh yes, sorry India, where but I can't work it out?
And then they get four hundred and sixty two, so
it's called India.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
The pitch flattens out, it turns into a road so
and then it turns into a nightmare. So we just
got to hope the nightmare doesn't come too.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So, so we only need about one hundred and seven runs,
so we should Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
God, no, this is India, okay, So all up for
the boys. We've got all our fingers crossing everything that
they can and bring us home for a Test when
in India, there'll be marvelous. That sets stuff for a
potential first ever Test series when in India.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Brilliant, it is quite and at forty six is just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It was watching the Indian batsman on that first morning
in Bengaluru. They had no idea.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Playing in christ Church on the green top and the
ball was whizzing around and sparking and doing everything and
the boys bowled, well, yeah, brilliant. They don't see that
in India, that doesn't happen. So that's why they're forty
six all out. They don't see that pictures and atmospheric
conditions like that.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh really, I thought the pictures in India ward or
a little bit random from time.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh no, No, they're normally flatters a concrete roadway and
break up by day four or five and turned into
a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh fantastic anyway, But it's not just life like you'd
prepared the pitch anyway. Hey, look, by the way, if
you have any questions about your healthy you've got a
little something that's nagging in the back of your mind.
You want a little bit of guidance, a bit of
encouragement to maybe go get that scan or to not
get that scan, or to talk to a particular professional
or any particular insight. If you are looking for it,
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you can give us a call on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, and you can text on nine two
nine two. But we want to kick off with something.
I think it's really woo woo. I've only recently caught
up with the word woo woo because of a friend
of mine, an old friend of mine form university who's
an amazing scientist. She talked about stuff being a bit
woo woo, and the next day someone else used the
(03:36):
expression woo woo and it means a bit sort of
spiritually sort of whatever new and yeah new wavy or whatever.
Float tanks, float tanks. And now I don't know if
I can say who used a float tank. Let's just
call her Tyra.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Why Yeah, she's not listening.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But anyway, I can't think of anything more the sensory
deprivation and what do we do we know? Is there
anything in the idea of a flat tank? And have
you ever had one?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I've got a spar pool out the back, mate,
I turn the lights out and sort of laser and
I do wear speedos, though honestly, I do promise you
i'd wear speedos in this. The police helicopter comes over occasionally.
We don't want to frighten the boys.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So I think you've just sung your own praise is
way too much there, John, you can offend someone from
two thousand feet or something than Wow, Doctor John Cameron's
joining us. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's an interesting concept of removing all the stimuli, and
for some people it's really quite a nice.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Enforced meditation in a way, it's like, let's just take
away everything you can, at least take away your phone.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Oh no, terribly, Yeah, you're absolutely right. You're in the dark,
you were floating. It is warm, there is no noise,
there's nothing except the sound of your own heartbeat going.
For some people it can be very scary and creating
a huge amount of anxiety. There have been a few
study he's done looking at it. Most of them are
god sort of like two men and a dog, and
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the dog didn't like it. So there's not a lot
of numbers around about what it can do. And first,
for some people, if you're in the right space and
you want that time out to contemplate and do, as
you say, a meditative process, fine, why not just make
sure you don't have cuts on your finger because of salts?
Oh god, yeah, just get into the It's like it's
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like the dead sea. To make you float, you can't
just have water, so you're gonna have some solutes on it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah. See I'm reading something here. It says that float
tank therapy triggers the release of stress reducing hormones, enhancing
the relaxation response, and boosting the immune system.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Do you believe the herald as well, don't you? You
believe public media? Yeah, you believe everything that's written in
the media. Everyone puts on a website. I love people
like you.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that that is the newspaper for
this company.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Fine, I talk about them all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's fine, okay, But is there something in it? It's
a bit like when you decide you're going to go
have some sort of treatment and you are looking forward
to it. You set your mind up in anticipation, so
you are will You're willing yourself to have a positive
reaction to it, because I think I can't think of
a worse way spending time than just you.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Wouldn't be able to keep quiet. You'd start humming to
yourself or singing or doing something stupid like that, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm honestly, I'm actually wondering if I've been in one,
because I have an image of the sort of echo
of being in this. Are you in an enclosed chamber
as well?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh no, i'd hate that acoustically.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh sorry, it's like the part, it's like the shower.
It's very similar. So for some people, if f in
that phrase of phase of mind, and they want something
like that. It can be very very good. For other
people who, as you say, don't like claustrophobia experiences or
they're not in a good headspace, we wouldn't recommend it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
What about I mean, I guess at this is really
about things like meditation and clearing your mind of all
the clutter that can well, my mind is pretty cluttered
all the time. And the benefit because people talk about
the benefits of meditation and things like that, don't they
But are they more I don't know, are there medical
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sort of attitudes to these, to things like medic meditation.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Meditation is excellent called mindfulness, grounding all of these sorts
of things that we strongly encourage people to do, to
live in the moment, to ground themselves to where they
are and what's going on around them, to be so
an actual fact, quite when we says the opposite, to
be very aware of all of the things that are
happening around you, so it takes you out of yourself,
and that can be very powerful thing to do. So
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I don't know whether spending some money to go and
sit in the warm water tank is what we should
be telling everyone to do. For certain individuals, that maybe
what they desire to do. But certainly having some time
out from the world where you can actually find where
you are at is really really powerful, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Would worry that I'd probably just fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's perfect relaxation, and isn't.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It winds me. There's a cartoon and there used to
be a cartoon called The Wizard of It and the
wizard hypnotizes the king to sleep and says, when you
wake up, you will feel relaxed and you'll feel revived
and all that sort of thing, and then he just
walks out the room and the other character says, aren't
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you going to wake them up? Nag, it's not for
eight hours, your idiot, which I think is very good
something like that. Anyway, Well, a little bit heavy to talk.
Take your calls on this on just the idea of mindfulness.
And we started off with the idea of float tanks
and things like that, and look, I pooh poohed them
just because it's fun to poop. Because my producer Tire
had one and she said she loved it. And she
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has pointed out they give you vassaline to put over
your cuts.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Find one that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But she says, literally because the air and the water
are the same temperature. After about five minutes, you literally
feel like you're floating, which is another reason I wouldn't
want to do it, because I would feel out of control.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You're weightless, if you're witless.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, it does sound terrifying, isn't it. Are there actually
benefits to your skin from sort of soaking those salts,
But there is a benefit to your mental health. I
guess if it works for you meditation and.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Clearity, if it's the right thing, it's something that you're,
as you say, going towards it with a positive mind,
then yeah, you'll come out way.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, fine, we about your calls on this. By the way,
what do you do when you want to just get
yourself back into that state of I guess for everyone
it's just seeking that state of the state of maybe
clarity of thought or equilibrium. I've started off with a
bit of a fun take on and about hopefully it
was fun and didn't offend anyone about float tanks as
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being one of those things we do, meditation another one.
For some people, it might be as simple as going
down to your favorite cafe, sitting in your favorite seat,
opening your favorite newspaper, which for John would be the
New Zealand Herald and having your favorite coffee. But what
is your way of attaining that sort of clarity and
that focus the reset? If you like, let's let's take
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some calls. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty, or if
you've got just some other questions about your health that
you are you would like to have a chat with
a doctor about well, he is actually a doctor, believe
it or not. It's gp doctor, John Cameron.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Haven't been struck off yet, so I'm waiting for the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Little is that on your business card?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Struck off?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Struck off? Okay, right, we'll take your course right now.
I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty, get on the
blow at seventeen past four.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I'm on my way from I'm on my way from
I'm on my.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Way from.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
The next one.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And welcome back to the show, I said, just aving discussion.
This is definitely a Scottish singer, isn't it. I'm on
more ware to Miserly and Happiness today.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Great movie Sunshine on Leath is it where they play
all of these songs for you that it's a marveless
little movie. I sort of went under the radar, but
well worth a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We play that because it's the theme. My producer likes
to find a theme. So, because this is the Health
Hub and we have you in here, we're on our
way from misery to happiness. Hopefully that the misery, you know,
it doesn't last until four fifty eight. Anyway, we're taking
a cause. By the way, if you'd like to give
us a call any medical questions you've got. I started
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just asking about float tanks and sensory deprivation. Are they
a hoax or do their benefits? And I guess the
question is it's just your attitude to them. And if
you if it's for you and you can afford it,
then knock yourself out.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, of course you could be like Johnny. Just sit
in the sparkle that's you flow tank and look up
the sky and wait for the police Eagle helicopter to
fly over and give him a flash.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm trying to find this comet at the moment, I
haven't been able to see that. Ye's somewhere in the
western sky at night.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh yes, actually stargazing. It's amazing how beautiful the sky
is when you just when the clouds go and you
just give your eyes a bit of time to adjust
even in the big centers.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Lovely.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Hey, Now, the other thing I wanted to touch on
is seasonal allergies. When does that kick in?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It normally starts at the sort of beginning of January
ends at the end of December around about around about
that sort of time. We live in a subtropical environment.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know, if I wasn't listening, because I just would
not and go okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So surrounded. But there's always something going on.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But there is a season where we feel I mean,
as a particular type of allergy. The spring has spraying
the grasses as I wonder where the bird is as
and are chew.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's exactly right, basically pollen's and things. Living here in Auckland.
There's a certain time you go out and look at
your car and it's sort of got this yellowy covering
all over it from the pine forests and the pollen
drifting through so anywhere, especially north of sort of the
middle of the North Island up energies are there most
of the time.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Why are people why are some people allergic to the
seasonal sort of allergy thing. What's what's going on? And
can you actually change that, can you Some people can
have I'm not sure what the therapy is, but you know, desensitization.
So when people have serious allergies, I mean I gather
that people have been you know, successfully treated for peanut
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analogies and things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Pology is interesting one. There's a new work coming out
on that which is looking really really stunning. Okay, is
it while we're it's it's a way of managing peen idology.
We normally don't try and do desnsitization to peanuts because
people carry their pen idology for life and it can
be absolutely catastrophic. So we tend not to do desnsitization
because if you give it, you can precipitate and down
(14:04):
reflect reaction like we had now surgery a couple of
weeks ago. We were doing desensilization for allergy and the
patient had in acute anaplectic reaction to the subdurbinent immunization
that we're doing against the allergen. Rare but common, and
that's why we do it in a controlled environment so
that we can give the methines get them out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So when it comes to seasonal allergies, is there any
way around it apart from having to take handy estamines
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Absolutely, ears Rock is pretty good. Central Arizona is absolutely fine. Basically,
you just change where you are. Look, so what's going
on when you've got allergy? What's going on? It's your
immune system, right, and it's a specific branch of your
immune system which is mediated by an anybody called IgE
in general, and it's a repair chemical that we need
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to have. We need to have this whole system to
protect our body from things which are going to attack us.
When that reaction is misdirected to an environmental protein and
we're called an allergen, our body reacts in a number
of different ways, either through culmudated or the humor or
antibody age, and you get this cascade of inflammatory markers
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which come in and they make your nose go running
and your eyes go red at she and you feel
absolutely horrible. So it's actually showing you the power of
our immune system, but it can be very nasty. So
the major things that we can try and do one
is to avoid the allergen if you can. So anyone
who comes in with allergy and asthma things like that,
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and they've got cats for a pet. I think it's
about time to get goldfish. Absolutely marvelous, so don't set
yourself up to fail. The mainstay of medical management would
be nasal steroids nasal cordicostereois, which are designed for long
term use. Then they try to calm down the reaction
that's occurring in your nose. Oral antihistamines, preferably the non
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sedating variety, can work. You don't want sedating antihistamines will
certainly work, but I'll put you to sleep. And they're
sedating because they are fat solubleeah, right, So sedating antiehistamines
conssolve in fat. Therefore they dissolve into your brain and
therefore they've done your brain down. Non sedating don't dissolve
in fats.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That sounds horrendous actually when you describe a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, your brain's fat, sixty seven fat.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But when you say they're dumb your brain down, it
feels But that sounds more catastrophic than just falling asleep,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well, if you well, they tend to be more potent
and powerful antihistamines. So if you're really running into trouble,
that's what you can shift towards. Those lines can we
try and get away with the non sedating ones.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Actually, I read this text here. It says I developed
a severe allergy to stone fruit when I was pregnant.
So a doctor told us to do a skin test
on my son when he was a few months old.
Rubb a peach slice on his leg, and he got
a rash. How can I try to train him and
myself out of the allergy? That sound quite a strange
thing to be.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What the fact that doctor said, rubb a peach slice.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, know that the sun has got an allergic reaction
to the peach as well as the mother. Yeah, that's
it doesn't necessarily have to follow through what happens and
the parent happens and the kid. Quite often, unfortunately, it's
not actually the raw product that causes the allergy. It's
one of the metabolites of the chemicals that were either
ingesting that can set off an allergic reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Can that mean there could be a difference between eating
raw fruit and cooked fruit, so you change your proteins.
So if you were allergic to apples, I mean, I
don't know I've ever come across anyone who's allergic to apples,
but if you it's a chance that if you cooked.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It, it's it's it. Things were like peanuts. No, it doesn't. Yeah, okay,
and a lot of the other one though it doesn't.
But sometimes if you alter the proteins, they lose some
of their and allergic nature.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is there something in also exposing kids to you know how,
I think the idea that our houses and houses are
too clean and disinfected, that it does have some connection
with poor immune response or allergic reactions to kids because
they haven't been exposed enough to stuff that challenges their
immune system in the first year or two or three
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or four or whatever how many years? Stop me five
s No.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're right. So in days gone by, we used to
withhold potentially allergy producing foods in young babies. Now we've
moved away from that, and that it doesn't It sounds logical,
but in medicine, if it sounds logical, it normally is wrong.
So what we wanted was to expose kids to as
many as we can because they build up what's called tolerance. Yeah,
and that's what the if you're using the medical wave
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of decentsitization, what you're trying to do is to induce
tolerance of something by building up the exposure slowly, slowly, slowly,
so that you build up a group of cells which
suppress the allergic response.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And my dad had an allergy to pine nuts. But
I think that from what I remember, it was he
might have been advised and you can correct this if
I'm wrong, But at some stage he would have eaten
pine nuts and not noticed, and then he ate pine
nuts again and bang, and his allergy became extreme. Like
it was like, get the epi pen and jabbed, and
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now because he's going to stop breathing in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You normally do need a primary exposure first, sometimes suitably.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
That seems strange, So why would that be?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So why does our body have immune cells IgE chemicals
to everything even if we haven't been exposed before, Because
that happens. We have IgE proteins, our immune proteins, which
are absolutely lock and key to proteins elegance that we've
never encountered in our lives. How that happens we still
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don't really understand. On the EpiPen one, it's really important
now the government has funded EpiPens so up until recently
they were one hundred bucks a pop and they lasted
about six to nine months, maybe twelve months. Now you
can get them on a script and they're just a
normal script charge. So if you need one, you've got
you can get one.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah. Well that does sound like money while spent. Doesn't
it going to literally save your life?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, Look we.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Want your cause.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I've got quite a few texts to get through. But
if you want to give us a call and ask
any questions of our guest, Dr John Cameron, you can
do so and you'll be first in the queue. But
let's do some texts in the meantime. Um right, Hi, guys,
My doctor thinks I might have silent reflex or gird geid,
and I'm not a witless for private e n T.
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I don't have burning sensations, but I do have a
feeling of tightness in the throat and excess to live
or I split this out into tissue. It's clear and
not offensive. It pours out. It's getting worse, and I'm
feeling like I'm drinking fluid sometimes stick in my throat,
which scares me. I find myself swallowing a lot even
when nothing in my throat. Any idea is why these
things are happening. Thank you so much from Helen cool.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So, first thing, the first thing someone would do for that, Helen,
is the place you want to proton pump inhibitor, a
metrozole pentoprazole medicines which decrease the acidity of any guesstric
contents which you're reflexing.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It sounds horrendous reflex experiencing.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, the next most important thing is to do a scope,
a gastroscopy, to have a lockdown your food tube to
see what's actually going on down there. Now, normally, if
you've got symptoms such as what you've got the pathway
state quite specifically that you need to have a scope.
I'm not sure why you're seeing an ORL unless you've
already had a scope and that was clear, then you
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may go and see an ORL silent reflex. It's a
catch cry. It may or may not be happening, but
see what happens on some protun pump inhibitas if they
haven't been tried before.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Actually, just to quickly. I'm not sure if this is
a light hand a lighthearted text, but it's it's just
saying anyone who wants to try out a float tank
should not, under any circumstances watch the film Altered States,
starring William Hurt. Beforehand, the central character falls around with
float tanks and ends up physically regressing to a primitive
ape man who goes on a naked nighttime rampage to
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the local zoo.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
That sounds like I'm going to have to watch it, Okay, yep, yep,
I'm sure there's a disclaimer on that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Anyway, Let's take some calls Kelvin, Hello.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Very good afternoon to the host and the doctor. Now,
this is a tiny, tiny little thing that's developed on
my right hand where my little finger joins the hand
part on that actual joint where the little finger joins
on the hand.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The knuckle man.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No, we're right, you're going.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, under the flesh there, it's sore and it feels
like a little hard lump about maybe half the size
of a green pea.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yep. And this is the part of the hand, palm
of the hand.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Part, Yeah, on the inside palm of the hand is.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
To a couple of two things can do this. One
you can get nodules on the flex attendance which will
do that. And if that happens, quite of and you'll
get what's called triggering, where the joint will get stuck
in flexion and you have to almost force it out.
The other thing that can happen is a fascinating little
disease called jupatrons trons contracture, and that as we've developed
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nodules in the fibrous tissue on the palm of the hand,
especially around the ring and little finger sides, and it
slowly increases over time, and if left long enough, it
slowly pulls your fingers down towards your palm. So I'm
picking from your voice that you're slightly older than thirty five, Yes, yeah,
good eighty three.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Yeah, that finger next to it, I used to have
a signet ring on it, but on there, but I
took that off that a year ago. But that little finger,
the only other damage I've ever had that little finger
was the joint near the finger nail of that same
little finger. When I was working in the she metal shop,
I cut right through it and the old nerve part.
(23:50):
When it healed, you could always feel the tenderness of
the nerve or whatever there for a long long time yeah,
decades actually. But anyway, so this little nodule I've got there, well,
that's sort of what just stay like that forever.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, slowly increase in size. I think it's most like
you have a very early form of Jupatron's contracture. It's
very safe. And you know, if you were twenty five
and had a nodule that was going to increase in size,
that could cause you problem in thirty forty fifty years.
With all due respect, I think you'll see it out.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yep, that's good, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
It won't it won't decompose, it'll get burnt. What I
was going to say is that I'm going to go
to my doctor every three months anyway, but so I'll
be seeing here in December. And because Oridge, I thought,
sometimes I pick pick up two supermarket shopping bags at once,
you know, out of the boot, just for time. I
(24:52):
was convenience, And I thought, have I sort of strained
the little finger as such?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But I don't think you have. I think it's one
of these little other little nodule on the flex attendant
or jupatrons.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, okay, I know if it keeps annoying me too
much or no amputation is a way here anyway? Much?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
What's that? I think you'll see it out. That's well,
you've used that. Have you used that before?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Very carefully?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, it's a traumatic way of saying, you're you know
this disease will last longer than you. I guess, well,
I won't get serious until.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
The other ways around it. I don't think it's going
to cause you a problem in your lifetime.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
No, yeah, there you go. Uh Dale, Hello.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Hello, I love that discussion about that. I thought that
was also something that that the vikings head.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yes, well done clutching your sore.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, it's your Scandinavian.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Jeans Scandinavian and you said I, Oh my goodness, Yes,
I did think I had it once, but it all
flick started flicking back. So obviously he will make it
to be a bit older. Mine is so mundane. Look,
I am sorry, but I have I'm on a lot
of blood pressure tablets and things like that, which is
a bloody usage. Excuse me, I am seventy seven. But
(26:14):
I've had a few visits to hospital because of the
feeling faint. I mean, I get there, they do the
hard thing and it's all all right. But what I
need to do is evidently drink.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Water, Drink more water, more.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Water, because I evidently don't drink enough water. And I'm thinking,
how much water do you have to do?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well they say you're dehydrated or.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yes, because what goes in what comes out, you know,
I mean, what is this? How much water is enough water?
Because like last night, I said, oh, oh, this is this,
I'm going to just conqu out because my one wish
is just to lie down and bed, okay, and just
not not wake up. Doesn't worry me. Dying, but I
don't want it to be too long.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, as I say, I'm not afraid of dying, I
just don't want to be there when it happens.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Well, that could be the other way of doing it,
but I don't know whether that ever happened that. I'm
sorry to say. I think you have to go through it.
But if you're sleep well, then.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Just anyway, let's get back to the water thing first.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Firstly, there is no such thing as a mundane question. Okay,
any question deserves to be put on the table and
to be addressed, and if we can solve it, great. No. No,
because you've got a question, you deserve an answer. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I don't mind if it's a ridiculous one.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No, No, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Actually a fast stop apologizing, we're going to get the
doctor onto it.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So it's an interesting theory. You should only drink when
you're thirsty, Okay, Okay, about ninety percent of our fluid
intakers and the foods that we eat, and we should
drink when we're thirsty, and how we should be the
color of lager beer not stout. Okay, okay, So if
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you're thirsty, drink. The concept that we have to constantly
flush ourselves out and drink and drink and drink and
drink and drink doesn't really hold true.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Okay. So the medications you're taking a mixture of blood pressure,
blood centers and that sort of thing, but that dilute
because water is just water, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, And our kidneys are really really tight at controlling
how much water is in our body. If you drink
five hundred miles of water, you've normally made about four
hundred and ninety miles a week within twenty minutes. Oh okay, right,
So if you if you're nicely fluid balanced, taking more
water and you'll just pee it out, and you're also
tend to lose a bit of sodium, which can be counterproductive.
(28:35):
So yes, you should be drinking as a reasonable amount
of fluids a day. Most of our fluids that we
take in are through the foods rather than what we
drink and drink when you're thirsty.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
There you go, okay, thank you, pleasure. I wasn't go
to panic, but thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Good No, thank you. Sorry, just hiit that button on
and then I was had it heading it earlier. Hey,
just a quick thing. Why does your wheeze go sort
of nuclear yellow after you've had vitamins?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Because it's what happens, is the vinament coming out.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, but why is it that color.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Vitamin it's lime green when you resolve them.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Does beat truth change the color of your wheeze.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
A little bit? A little bit, mostly changes you poos? Yeah,
they go bright scarletly.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I do know people have thought that they have forgotten
that they had a beat Trioth salad a couple of
days ago. Then they go to the loo and they go,
I've got to go see the doctor because I'm bleeding.
It's like I actually that happened to me once. I
called my mom up and she said, darling, don't remember
we had Beatriots salad last night.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I was like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, anyway, right, why is there no screening for narrowing
arteries when the first time that one of hears about
this is after a heart attack? There actually is, there
is screening.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
We're screening everybody in the country for it. In a
different way. What we're doing is looking at a cardiovascular
risk profile, which is a whole conglomeration of age, gender, ethnicity, diabetes, smoking,
blood pressure, cholesterol, family history, personal history. So we're doing
that test. The next test we have got is basically
getting chest paint on exercise, which is one of the
(30:06):
hallmarks of having narrow coronary arteries. A sort of intermediate step,
there's a thing called a calcium score, which we'll look
at the amount of potential amount of calcium that's sitting
in your coronary arteries. It's a very low dose CT
scan which is done. It can help. It doesn't tell
us what the narrow if there are narrowings, and what
they're like. It just gives us an idea where there
(30:26):
might be narrowings, and it can be a decision point
about whether we start. You want medicines to lower your cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I've just got a quick question just following up on
that dou Petron's contracture up. If you have a contractor
of one the people I've seen who've got it, it
seems to be graduated like they get it quite bad
and the little finger, then a little bit more on
the fourth and maybe a touch on the third.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Is it usually?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Is it ever just in one finger?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yes? Can be Oh to start good.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Stuff right, We're going to take a break your cause
we've got a bunch of calls lined up. Will be
taking as getting through as much as we can. My
guest is John Cameron. I'm Tim Beveridge. That is nineteen
minutes to five News Talks. He'd be yes, Welcome back
(31:11):
to the week and Collective. This is the Health hab
Our guest Dtor John Cameron. He is a doctor and
he's with us now taking your calls and text. Just
before we got our next caller, this text that says
I was told I had a gallstone so big it
wouldn't cause me any trouble.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Is this the case?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Or could it turn into cancer? Is worth getting another scan?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
No, okay, it won't turn into cancer. A gallstone will
only cause you major problems. If her blosy outlet to
the gall bladder and normally it's a small stone that
will do that rather than the bedstone.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I wouldn't like being told, no worry, he's just so big,
it's not a problem.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, it's actually true to a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
What causes gallstones?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
God, oh okay, that's horrible. Are there any kidney stones?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Is that different? Different?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Okay, it's different, nasty, nasty things. Oh yeah, they don't
sound fun at all, those things. Sally.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Hello, Hello, I have got a bladder problem and i
can't control it, and I've been using pull ups for
months and months and months. But the problem is I've
got a heart condition which causes fluid around my lungs,
and I'm also having fruits are made to make me
(32:26):
go to the toilet. Is there anything can be done
about this?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Unfortunately, it sounds if you've been investigated, which I take
it that you have. Sometimes we end up with what's
called natonic bladder, which just leaks. It is quite important
from your symptom control to use your fruiz of mind
for that, because running out of your lanes filling up
with fluid is not very pleasant. But you're right, it
(32:53):
will make you pee a lot. Now, as one ages
the bladder control can get worse, and there's medicines of
which we can try, but sometimes they don't work. The endgame,
unfortunately or some people, is either to use disposes like
you're saying, or else to have some form of catheter,
either a urethral catheter or a super pubic catheter which
(33:15):
takes a way out from your bladder so you don't
worry about it, or even intimately self cathacterization. Now that's
an endgame that we don't like to get to, but
unfortunately for some people, that's where we do end up.
So I know it's not very pleasant.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
My doctor has booked me into the hospital, but I
think they're waiting for me to die, so I don't
need to go there. What about you know they're using
something that they use it for your wrinkles on your
face bowtops. Yes at all.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
It can if you've got spasm of the bladder neck.
But if you've got a problem with overflowing leakage, if
you if you stop those muscles from working, that could
actually make your problem worse.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Okay, hey, thanks for your call, Sally. Just on the
on the bladder control thing. As you get older, to
exercises work, I mean for people talk about pelvic flooric.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yes, I want to keep doing those. Yeah, absolutely want
to try and keep as much muscle tone as you
can in that area.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Now. Actually, every time I talked to it here about
people the stories about this, it does remind me to
just keep as active as you can for as long
as you can. If there's anything if you can learn
from other people, just keep moving, move it or lose it,
as they say, right, let's carry on John, Hello.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Yeah, Hi, Look, I've been nice statins for quite a
few years. I think about fifteen or sixteen years.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Is it possible to wean yourself off them? If your
cholesterol's pretty law, If you.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Wean them off, your clefterol will go exactly back to
where it was before you went on.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
What about if you've changed you'd died in the meantime.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, It's sort of like comparing an ant to a howitzer.
So the ants are diet and the howitzer is a statin.
So if you're wanting the effectiveness of lipid control, the
statins are by far, in a way, the most effective
way of dealing. But yes, you can move around your diet.
You can get something up to ten maybe fifteen or
perhaps twenty percent change in the lipid profile on diet,
(35:13):
where you'll get a forty to fifty eighty percent change
on the stat So it's that sort of framework.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Okay, okay, but does it does it damage you if
you if you went off apart from raising you a
cholesterol does it do any other things?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Nope, nope, there's nothing else from that point of view.
You have to go back to work out why you're
placed on the statin in the first instance. Normally we'd
look at your cardiovascular risk either you if you've had
a cardiovascular event, then the evidence is really strong. I'd stroke,
heart attack, something like that. The evidence is really strong there.
As low as we push your low density local protein
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component of your cholesterol picture down to one point eight
one point six one point two even you're going to
dramatically reduce your risk of a second event. If you
haven't had an event, then the data gets a little
bit more fluffy and it's more of a discussion.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Okay, yep, okay, thank thanks for much.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Thanks problems Okay, we'll be back, and just the tickets
coming up too. It's just gone eleven minutes to five
news talk, said.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
B one goes up must come down spinning wheel.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Now, that was a theme that came out from one
of our conversations with doctor John Cameron. Something what goes
up must come down. But of course sometimes blood pressure
goes up might not come down. But anyway, I just
wanted to find a song that's tied into the theme.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Generally, it's better than going down and not coming out.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Fun fact that we just shared in the break because
somebody sent me an email and won't be able to
get in a text we won't be able to get into.
But it was just about asparagus. And we all know
that asparagus has the smell. And I thought that there
were some people who processed the asparagus that it wouldn't smell,
And you've just explained that, No, there are some people
who can't smell it, but it is still there.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, and some people. You're right, some people can't make
me kepto puring. But most of these people can't smell
my kepto puring.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Ah, it's a great deal.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Test. Have some sparagus for teen, go and have a week. Oh,
kidney's are working. I can smell it wiveless.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh good, It's that a good test for your to kidneys.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
It means that it's been absorbed, Your kidneys are filtered
out and actually goes.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's the Stranger of vegetables. Really, isn't it beautiful? I
do like it, but it is a weird sort of
many way under let's who haven't got lucky last call?
I M, hello, hello mine?
Speaker 8 (37:22):
Is it just a cosmetics sort of thing? Really? I
have skin as an older person that has when I
run my fingers down my arms or my legs, it
feels like little grains of sand stuck to my skin.
Is there anything I can do about that?
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Or?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
A bit hard to say without seeing what's actually going on.
It would be unusual. If the skin texture is normal,
then I'm not so worried, And if the lumps are
really really fine, I'm not so worried. If there's change
in the skin texture, that would make it slightly more
interesting more concerning.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
No, my skin is quite good. But I just thought
maybe it's just some damage and there's something, some application
that I could put on to dissolve some or whatever.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I think it would be unlikely there's an application you
can put on to dissolve them if they've felt like
little crystalline structures with under the skin. I would show
it to someone of chelity. Doctor. Make sure we're not
missing anything but a big plug we're coming into someone. Now,
please be careful with your skins. It takes an inordinate
amount of my daily time to cut out skin cancers.
(38:28):
I just it's shocking and the New Zealand you know
I'm doing. I'm only a little GP practice, but I'm
doing three to five skin cancer excisions a week.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Blimey. Yeah, okay, Well, I'm good that you're spotting it
and get out rid of it. But yeah, rather, I
have other things to do. I guess, hey, just a
quick one.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I've walked.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
This person says, I've got some water stuck in my
ear from standing too close to the shower head. The
nostril on that side has always blocked my words. Therecho
and I can hear crackling noises. Jiggling the ear lobe
helps temporarily, but it comes back. Will it go away?
Or do I need to see a doctor?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I go and get that s It sounds like you've
probably got a big glove of waxening your ear canal.
In A nice little handy hint you can try before
you see the doctor is sodium by carbonate solution. A
glass of warm water with a couple of teaspoons of
sodium by carbonate making and dribble it into your ear
and try and dissolve the wex away. It'll work nine
times out.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Really, that is a fun fact. Actually, that's We should
probably end on the note of just reminding people about
the sun coming out, because, as they say, you should
wear sunscreen already around but let's be honest, how many
people do that? But now the sun is getting it
just feels different the last few days singing yes, it's
so skin cancer sunscreen, wear it, please, please, please, excellent. Hey,
(39:45):
good to see John, Thanks for me, and you're going
to be going back to watch the cracket I guess.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
So when's the next tonight?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh no, No, one hundred and seven runs to whim
Oh go to the black Cat. Yep, good stuff. Hey,
thanks very much. We'll be back very shortly with a
smart money. Hannah McQueen is joining us, talking about how
you structure your mortgage when interest rates are on the
way down. We'll be taking your course at one hundred
eighty ten eighty and text nine two nine to two
back in just to tech
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
It'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You can't start fove out the spot.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
This stings behind.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Even We'll just ask me messages.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Kietting Clear.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Williams All and I'm moving round.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Please watching my look in the mirror. I want to
change my clothes.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
My hair.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Nowhere, I'm just leave it up.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Time like this, I'm having any songware.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Baby, Just le your kids and welcome back. This is
the Weekend Collective. I'm Tim Beveridge. And by the way,
you miss politics entering, go and check out our podcast
Wave podcast look for the week and Collective on our
Heart Radio. But right now we're moving on to the
Health Hub. And my guest is well, he does need
no introduction. He's a doctor. He's a GP. I'll give
(01:14):
us name, but he should be familiar to you by now,
Doctor John Cameron.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Good afternoon, afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You are looking like you're fizzing at the bung. I'm
not sure that's some medical expressions.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Time, but I'm sure it's fizzing somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, I'm just happy.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
How should we be said?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Because I mean because you you do some work and
we've done some work. With the Black Caps. Is there
anything to do with just the fact that they were
forty six?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
All out that you're a Black Caps with India the
forty six.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh yes, sorry India, where but I can't work it out?
And then they get four hundred and sixty two, so
it's called India.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
The pitch flattens out, it turns into a road so
and then it turns into a nightmare. So we just
got to hope the nightmare doesn't come too.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So, so we only need about one hundred and seven runs,
so we should Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
God, no, this is India, okay, So all up for
the boys. We've got all our fingers crossing everything that
they can and bring us home for a Test when
in India, there'll be marvelous. That sets stuff for a
potential first ever Test series when in India.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Brilliant, it is quite and at forty six is just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It was watching the Indian batsman on that first morning
in Bengaluru. They had no idea.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Playing in christ Church on the green top and the
ball was whizzing around and sparking and doing everything and
the boys bowled, well, yeah, brilliant. They don't see that
in India, that doesn't happen. So that's why they're forty
six all out. They don't see that pictures and atmospheric
conditions like that.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh really, I thought the pictures in India ward or
a little bit random from time.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh no, No, they're normally flatters a concrete roadway and
break up by day four or five and turned into
a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh fantastic anyway, But it's not just life like you'd
prepared the pitch anyway. Hey, look, by the way, if
you have any questions about your healthy you've got a
little something that's nagging in the back of your mind.
You want a little bit of guidance, a bit of
encouragement to maybe go get that scan or to not
get that scan, or to talk to a particular professional
or any particular insight. If you are looking for it,
(03:16):
you can give us a call on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, and you can text on nine two
nine two. But we want to kick off with something.
I think it's really woo woo. I've only recently caught
up with the word woo woo because of a friend
of mine, an old friend of mine form university who's
an amazing scientist. She talked about stuff being a bit
woo woo, and the next day someone else used the
(03:36):
expression woo woo and it means a bit sort of
spiritually sort of whatever new and yeah new wavy or whatever.
Float tanks, float tanks. And now I don't know if
I can say who used a float tank. Let's just
call her Tyra.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Why Yeah, she's not listening.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But anyway, I can't think of anything more the sensory
deprivation and what do we do we know? Is there
anything in the idea of a flat tank? And have
you ever had one?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I've got a spar pool out the back, mate,
I turn the lights out and sort of laser and
I do wear speedos, though honestly, I do promise you
i'd wear speedos in this. The police helicopter comes over occasionally.
We don't want to frighten the boys.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So I think you've just sung your own praise is
way too much there, John, you can offend someone from
two thousand feet or something than Wow, Doctor John Cameron's
joining us. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's an interesting concept of removing all the stimuli, and
for some people it's really quite a nice.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Enforced meditation in a way, it's like, let's just take
away everything you can, at least take away your phone.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Oh no, terribly, Yeah, you're absolutely right. You're in the dark,
you were floating. It is warm, there is no noise,
there's nothing except the sound of your own heartbeat going.
For some people it can be very scary and creating
a huge amount of anxiety. There have been a few
study he's done looking at it. Most of them are
god sort of like two men and a dog, and
(05:09):
the dog didn't like it. So there's not a lot
of numbers around about what it can do. And first,
for some people, if you're in the right space and
you want that time out to contemplate and do, as
you say, a meditative process, fine, why not just make
sure you don't have cuts on your finger because of salts?
Oh god, yeah, just get into the It's like it's
(05:32):
like the dead sea. To make you float, you can't
just have water, so you're gonna have some solutes on it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah. See I'm reading something here. It says that float
tank therapy triggers the release of stress reducing hormones, enhancing
the relaxation response, and boosting the immune system.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Do you believe the herald as well, don't you? You
believe public media? Yeah, you believe everything that's written in
the media. Everyone puts on a website. I love people
like you.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that that is the newspaper for
this company.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Fine, I talk about them all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's fine, okay, But is there something in it? It's
a bit like when you decide you're going to go
have some sort of treatment and you are looking forward
to it. You set your mind up in anticipation, so
you are will You're willing yourself to have a positive
reaction to it, because I think I can't think of
a worse way spending time than just you.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Wouldn't be able to keep quiet. You'd start humming to
yourself or singing or doing something stupid like that, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm honestly, I'm actually wondering if I've been in one,
because I have an image of the sort of echo
of being in this. Are you in an enclosed chamber
as well?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh no, i'd hate that acoustically.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh sorry, it's like the part, it's like the shower.
It's very similar. So for some people, if f in
that phrase of phase of mind, and they want something
like that. It can be very very good. For other
people who, as you say, don't like claustrophobia experiences or
they're not in a good headspace, we wouldn't recommend it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
What about I mean, I guess at this is really
about things like meditation and clearing your mind of all
the clutter that can well, my mind is pretty cluttered
all the time. And the benefit because people talk about
the benefits of meditation and things like that, don't they
But are they more I don't know, are there medical
(07:19):
sort of attitudes to these, to things like medic meditation.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Meditation is excellent called mindfulness, grounding all of these sorts
of things that we strongly encourage people to do, to
live in the moment, to ground themselves to where they
are and what's going on around them, to be so
an actual fact, quite when we says the opposite, to
be very aware of all of the things that are
happening around you, so it takes you out of yourself,
and that can be very powerful thing to do. So
(07:44):
I don't know whether spending some money to go and
sit in the warm water tank is what we should
be telling everyone to do. For certain individuals, that maybe
what they desire to do. But certainly having some time
out from the world where you can actually find where
you are at is really really powerful, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Would worry that I'd probably just fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's perfect relaxation, and isn't.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It winds me. There's a cartoon and there used to
be a cartoon called The Wizard of It and the
wizard hypnotizes the king to sleep and says, when you
wake up, you will feel relaxed and you'll feel revived
and all that sort of thing, and then he just
walks out the room and the other character says, aren't
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you going to wake them up? Nag, it's not for
eight hours, your idiot, which I think is very good
something like that. Anyway, Well, a little bit heavy to talk.
Take your calls on this on just the idea of mindfulness.
And we started off with the idea of float tanks
and things like that, and look, I pooh poohed them
just because it's fun to poop. Because my producer Tire
had one and she said she loved it. And she
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has pointed out they give you vassaline to put over
your cuts.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Find one that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But she says, literally because the air and the water
are the same temperature. After about five minutes, you literally
feel like you're floating, which is another reason I wouldn't
want to do it, because I would feel out of control.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You're weightless, if you're witless.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, it does sound terrifying, isn't it. Are there actually
benefits to your skin from sort of soaking those salts,
But there is a benefit to your mental health. I
guess if it works for you meditation and.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Clearity, if it's the right thing, it's something that you're,
as you say, going towards it with a positive mind,
then yeah, you'll come out way.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, fine, we about your calls on this. By the way,
what do you do when you want to just get
yourself back into that state of I guess for everyone
it's just seeking that state of the state of maybe
clarity of thought or equilibrium. I've started off with a
bit of a fun take on and about hopefully it
was fun and didn't offend anyone about float tanks as
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being one of those things we do, meditation another one.
For some people, it might be as simple as going
down to your favorite cafe, sitting in your favorite seat,
opening your favorite newspaper, which for John would be the
New Zealand Herald and having your favorite coffee. But what
is your way of attaining that sort of clarity and
that focus the reset? If you like, let's let's take
(10:08):
some calls. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty, or if
you've got just some other questions about your health that
you are you would like to have a chat with
a doctor about well, he is actually a doctor, believe
it or not. It's gp doctor, John Cameron.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Haven't been struck off yet, so I'm waiting for the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Little is that on your business card?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Struck off?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Struck off? Okay, right, we'll take your course right now.
I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty, get on the
blow at seventeen past four.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I'm on my way from I'm on my way from
I'm on my.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Way from.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
The next one.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And welcome back to the show, I said, just aving discussion.
This is definitely a Scottish singer, isn't it. I'm on
more ware to Miserly and Happiness today.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Great movie Sunshine on Leath is it where they play
all of these songs for you that it's a marveless
little movie. I sort of went under the radar, but
well worth a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We play that because it's the theme. My producer likes
to find a theme. So, because this is the Health
Hub and we have you in here, we're on our
way from misery to happiness. Hopefully that the misery, you know,
it doesn't last until four fifty eight. Anyway, we're taking
a cause. By the way, if you'd like to give
us a call any medical questions you've got. I started
(11:49):
just asking about float tanks and sensory deprivation. Are they
a hoax or do their benefits? And I guess the
question is it's just your attitude to them. And if
you if it's for you and you can afford it,
then knock yourself out.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, of course you could be like Johnny. Just sit
in the sparkle that's you flow tank and look up
the sky and wait for the police Eagle helicopter to
fly over and give him a flash.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm trying to find this comet at the moment, I
haven't been able to see that. Ye's somewhere in the
western sky at night.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh yes, actually stargazing. It's amazing how beautiful the sky
is when you just when the clouds go and you
just give your eyes a bit of time to adjust
even in the big centers.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Lovely.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Hey, Now, the other thing I wanted to touch on
is seasonal allergies. When does that kick in?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It normally starts at the sort of beginning of January
ends at the end of December around about around about
that sort of time. We live in a subtropical environment.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know, if I wasn't listening, because I just would
not and go okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So surrounded. But there's always something going on.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But there is a season where we feel I mean,
as a particular type of allergy. The spring has spraying
the grasses as I wonder where the bird is as
and are chew.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's exactly right, basically pollen's and things. Living here in Auckland.
There's a certain time you go out and look at
your car and it's sort of got this yellowy covering
all over it from the pine forests and the pollen
drifting through so anywhere, especially north of sort of the
middle of the North Island up energies are there most
of the time.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Why are people why are some people allergic to the
seasonal sort of allergy thing. What's what's going on? And
can you actually change that, can you Some people can
have I'm not sure what the therapy is, but you know, desensitization.
So when people have serious allergies, I mean I gather
that people have been you know, successfully treated for peanut
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analogies and things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Pology is interesting one. There's a new work coming out
on that which is looking really really stunning. Okay, is
it while we're it's it's a way of managing peen idology.
We normally don't try and do desnsitization to peanuts because
people carry their pen idology for life and it can
be absolutely catastrophic. So we tend not to do desnsitization
because if you give it, you can precipitate and down
(14:04):
reflect reaction like we had now surgery a couple of
weeks ago. We were doing desensilization for allergy and the
patient had in acute anaplectic reaction to the subdurbinent immunization
that we're doing against the allergen. Rare but common, and
that's why we do it in a controlled environment so
that we can give the methines get them out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So when it comes to seasonal allergies, is there any
way around it apart from having to take handy estamines
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Absolutely, ears Rock is pretty good. Central Arizona is absolutely fine. Basically,
you just change where you are. Look, so what's going
on when you've got allergy? What's going on? It's your
immune system, right, and it's a specific branch of your
immune system which is mediated by an anybody called IgE
in general, and it's a repair chemical that we need
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to have. We need to have this whole system to
protect our body from things which are going to attack us.
When that reaction is misdirected to an environmental protein and
we're called an allergen, our body reacts in a number
of different ways, either through culmudated or the humor or
antibody age, and you get this cascade of inflammatory markers
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which come in and they make your nose go running
and your eyes go red at she and you feel
absolutely horrible. So it's actually showing you the power of
our immune system, but it can be very nasty. So
the major things that we can try and do one
is to avoid the allergen if you can. So anyone
who comes in with allergy and asthma things like that,
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and they've got cats for a pet. I think it's
about time to get goldfish. Absolutely marvelous, so don't set
yourself up to fail. The mainstay of medical management would
be nasal steroids nasal cordicostereois, which are designed for long
term use. Then they try to calm down the reaction
that's occurring in your nose. Oral antihistamines, preferably the non
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sedating variety, can work. You don't want sedating antihistamines will
certainly work, but I'll put you to sleep. And they're
sedating because they are fat solubleeah, right, So sedating antiehistamines
conssolve in fat. Therefore they dissolve into your brain and
therefore they've done your brain down. Non sedating don't dissolve
in fats.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That sounds horrendous actually when you describe a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, your brain's fat, sixty seven fat.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But when you say they're dumb your brain down, it
feels But that sounds more catastrophic than just falling asleep,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well, if you well, they tend to be more potent
and powerful antihistamines. So if you're really running into trouble,
that's what you can shift towards. Those lines can we
try and get away with the non sedating ones.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Actually, I read this text here. It says I developed
a severe allergy to stone fruit when I was pregnant.
So a doctor told us to do a skin test
on my son when he was a few months old.
Rubb a peach slice on his leg, and he got
a rash. How can I try to train him and
myself out of the allergy? That sound quite a strange
thing to be.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What the fact that doctor said, rubb a peach slice.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, know that the sun has got an allergic reaction
to the peach as well as the mother. Yeah, that's
it doesn't necessarily have to follow through what happens and
the parent happens and the kid. Quite often, unfortunately, it's
not actually the raw product that causes the allergy. It's
one of the metabolites of the chemicals that were either
ingesting that can set off an allergic reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Can that mean there could be a difference between eating
raw fruit and cooked fruit, so you change your proteins.
So if you were allergic to apples, I mean, I
don't know I've ever come across anyone who's allergic to apples,
but if you it's a chance that if you cooked.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It, it's it's it. Things were like peanuts. No, it doesn't. Yeah, okay,
and a lot of the other one though it doesn't.
But sometimes if you alter the proteins, they lose some
of their and allergic nature.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is there something in also exposing kids to you know how,
I think the idea that our houses and houses are
too clean and disinfected, that it does have some connection
with poor immune response or allergic reactions to kids because
they haven't been exposed enough to stuff that challenges their
immune system in the first year or two or three
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or four or whatever how many years? Stop me five
s No.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're right. So in days gone by, we used to
withhold potentially allergy producing foods in young babies. Now we've
moved away from that, and that it doesn't It sounds logical,
but in medicine, if it sounds logical, it normally is wrong.
So what we wanted was to expose kids to as
many as we can because they build up what's called tolerance. Yeah,
and that's what the if you're using the medical wave
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of decentsitization, what you're trying to do is to induce
tolerance of something by building up the exposure slowly, slowly, slowly,
so that you build up a group of cells which
suppress the allergic response.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And my dad had an allergy to pine nuts. But
I think that from what I remember, it was he
might have been advised and you can correct this if
I'm wrong, But at some stage he would have eaten
pine nuts and not noticed, and then he ate pine
nuts again and bang, and his allergy became extreme. Like
it was like, get the epi pen and jabbed, and
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now because he's going to stop breathing in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You normally do need a primary exposure first, sometimes suitably.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
That seems strange, So why would that be?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So why does our body have immune cells IgE chemicals
to everything even if we haven't been exposed before, Because
that happens. We have IgE proteins, our immune proteins, which
are absolutely lock and key to proteins elegance that we've
never encountered in our lives. How that happens we still
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don't really understand. On the EpiPen one, it's really important
now the government has funded EpiPens so up until recently
they were one hundred bucks a pop and they lasted
about six to nine months, maybe twelve months. Now you
can get them on a script and they're just a
normal script charge. So if you need one, you've got
you can get one.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah. Well that does sound like money while spent. Doesn't
it going to literally save your life?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, Look we.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Want your cause.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I've got quite a few texts to get through. But
if you want to give us a call and ask
any questions of our guest, Dr John Cameron, you can
do so and you'll be first in the queue. But
let's do some texts in the meantime. Um right, Hi, guys,
My doctor thinks I might have silent reflex or gird geid,
and I'm not a witless for private e n T.
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I don't have burning sensations, but I do have a
feeling of tightness in the throat and excess to live
or I split this out into tissue. It's clear and
not offensive. It pours out. It's getting worse, and I'm
feeling like I'm drinking fluid sometimes stick in my throat,
which scares me. I find myself swallowing a lot even
when nothing in my throat. Any idea is why these
things are happening. Thank you so much from Helen cool.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So, first thing, the first thing someone would do for that, Helen,
is the place you want to proton pump inhibitor, a
metrozole pentoprazole medicines which decrease the acidity of any guesstric
contents which you're reflexing.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It sounds horrendous reflex experiencing.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, the next most important thing is to do a scope,
a gastroscopy, to have a lockdown your food tube to
see what's actually going on down there. Now, normally, if
you've got symptoms such as what you've got the pathway
state quite specifically that you need to have a scope.
I'm not sure why you're seeing an ORL unless you've
already had a scope and that was clear, then you
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may go and see an ORL silent reflex. It's a
catch cry. It may or may not be happening, but
see what happens on some protun pump inhibitas if they
haven't been tried before.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Actually, just to quickly. I'm not sure if this is
a light hand a lighthearted text, but it's it's just
saying anyone who wants to try out a float tank
should not, under any circumstances watch the film Altered States,
starring William Hurt. Beforehand, the central character falls around with
float tanks and ends up physically regressing to a primitive
ape man who goes on a naked nighttime rampage to
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the local zoo.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
That sounds like I'm going to have to watch it, Okay, yep, yep,
I'm sure there's a disclaimer on that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Anyway, Let's take some calls Kelvin, Hello.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Very good afternoon to the host and the doctor. Now,
this is a tiny, tiny little thing that's developed on
my right hand where my little finger joins the hand
part on that actual joint where the little finger joins
on the hand.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The knuckle man.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No, we're right, you're going.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, under the flesh there, it's sore and it feels
like a little hard lump about maybe half the size
of a green pea.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yep. And this is the part of the hand, palm
of the hand.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Part, Yeah, on the inside palm of the hand is.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
To a couple of two things can do this. One
you can get nodules on the flex attendance which will
do that. And if that happens, quite of and you'll
get what's called triggering, where the joint will get stuck
in flexion and you have to almost force it out.
The other thing that can happen is a fascinating little
disease called jupatrons trons contracture, and that as we've developed
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nodules in the fibrous tissue on the palm of the hand,
especially around the ring and little finger sides, and it
slowly increases over time, and if left long enough, it
slowly pulls your fingers down towards your palm. So I'm
picking from your voice that you're slightly older than thirty five, Yes, yeah,
good eighty three.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Yeah, that finger next to it, I used to have
a signet ring on it, but on there, but I
took that off that a year ago. But that little finger,
the only other damage I've ever had that little finger
was the joint near the finger nail of that same
little finger. When I was working in the she metal shop,
I cut right through it and the old nerve part.
(23:50):
When it healed, you could always feel the tenderness of
the nerve or whatever there for a long long time yeah,
decades actually. But anyway, so this little nodule I've got there, well,
that's sort of what just stay like that forever.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, slowly increase in size. I think it's most like
you have a very early form of Jupatron's contracture. It's
very safe. And you know, if you were twenty five
and had a nodule that was going to increase in size,
that could cause you problem in thirty forty fifty years.
With all due respect, I think you'll see it out.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yep, that's good, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
It won't it won't decompose, it'll get burnt. What I
was going to say is that I'm going to go
to my doctor every three months anyway, but so I'll
be seeing here in December. And because Oridge, I thought,
sometimes I pick pick up two supermarket shopping bags at once,
you know, out of the boot, just for time. I
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was convenience, And I thought, have I sort of strained
the little finger as such?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But I don't think you have. I think it's one
of these little other little nodule on the flex attendant
or jupatrons.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, okay, I know if it keeps annoying me too
much or no amputation is a way here anyway? Much?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
What's that? I think you'll see it out. That's well,
you've used that. Have you used that before?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Very carefully?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, it's a traumatic way of saying, you're you know
this disease will last longer than you. I guess, well,
I won't get serious until.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
The other ways around it. I don't think it's going
to cause you a problem in your lifetime.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
No, yeah, there you go. Uh Dale, Hello.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Hello, I love that discussion about that. I thought that
was also something that that the vikings head.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yes, well done clutching your sore.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, it's your Scandinavian.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Jeans Scandinavian and you said I, Oh my goodness, Yes,
I did think I had it once, but it all
flick started flicking back. So obviously he will make it
to be a bit older. Mine is so mundane. Look,
I am sorry, but I have I'm on a lot
of blood pressure tablets and things like that, which is
a bloody usage. Excuse me, I am seventy seven. But
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I've had a few visits to hospital because of the
feeling faint. I mean, I get there, they do the
hard thing and it's all all right. But what I
need to do is evidently drink.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Water, Drink more water, more.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Water, because I evidently don't drink enough water. And I'm thinking,
how much water do you have to do?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well they say you're dehydrated or.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yes, because what goes in what comes out, you know,
I mean, what is this? How much water is enough water?
Because like last night, I said, oh, oh, this is this,
I'm going to just conqu out because my one wish
is just to lie down and bed, okay, and just
not not wake up. Doesn't worry me. Dying, but I
don't want it to be too long.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, as I say, I'm not afraid of dying, I
just don't want to be there when it happens.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Well, that could be the other way of doing it,
but I don't know whether that ever happened that. I'm
sorry to say. I think you have to go through it.
But if you're sleep well, then.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Just anyway, let's get back to the water thing first.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Firstly, there is no such thing as a mundane question. Okay,
any question deserves to be put on the table and
to be addressed, and if we can solve it, great. No. No,
because you've got a question, you deserve an answer. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I don't mind if it's a ridiculous one.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No, No, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Actually a fast stop apologizing, we're going to get the
doctor onto it.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So it's an interesting theory. You should only drink when
you're thirsty, Okay, Okay, about ninety percent of our fluid
intakers and the foods that we eat, and we should
drink when we're thirsty, and how we should be the
color of lager beer not stout. Okay, okay, So if
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you're thirsty, drink. The concept that we have to constantly
flush ourselves out and drink and drink and drink and
drink and drink doesn't really hold true.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Okay. So the medications you're taking a mixture of blood pressure,
blood centers and that sort of thing, but that dilute
because water is just water, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, And our kidneys are really really tight at controlling
how much water is in our body. If you drink
five hundred miles of water, you've normally made about four
hundred and ninety miles a week within twenty minutes. Oh okay, right,
So if you if you're nicely fluid balanced, taking more
water and you'll just pee it out, and you're also
tend to lose a bit of sodium, which can be counterproductive.
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So yes, you should be drinking as a reasonable amount
of fluids a day. Most of our fluids that we
take in are through the foods rather than what we
drink and drink when you're thirsty.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
There you go, okay, thank you, pleasure. I wasn't go
to panic, but thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Good No, thank you. Sorry, just hiit that button on
and then I was had it heading it earlier. Hey,
just a quick thing. Why does your wheeze go sort
of nuclear yellow after you've had vitamins?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Because it's what happens, is the vinament coming out.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, but why is it that color.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Vitamin it's lime green when you resolve them.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Does beat truth change the color of your wheeze.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
A little bit? A little bit, mostly changes you poos? Yeah,
they go bright scarletly.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I do know people have thought that they have forgotten
that they had a beat Trioth salad a couple of
days ago. Then they go to the loo and they go,
I've got to go see the doctor because I'm bleeding.
It's like I actually that happened to me once. I
called my mom up and she said, darling, don't remember
we had Beatriots salad last night.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I was like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, anyway, right, why is there no screening for narrowing
arteries when the first time that one of hears about
this is after a heart attack? There actually is, there
is screening.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
We're screening everybody in the country for it. In a
different way. What we're doing is looking at a cardiovascular
risk profile, which is a whole conglomeration of age, gender, ethnicity, diabetes, smoking,
blood pressure, cholesterol, family history, personal history. So we're doing
that test. The next test we have got is basically
getting chest paint on exercise, which is one of the
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hallmarks of having narrow coronary arteries. A sort of intermediate step,
there's a thing called a calcium score, which we'll look
at the amount of potential amount of calcium that's sitting
in your coronary arteries. It's a very low dose CT
scan which is done. It can help. It doesn't tell
us what the narrow if there are narrowings, and what
they're like. It just gives us an idea where there
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might be narrowings, and it can be a decision point
about whether we start. You want medicines to lower your cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I've just got a quick question just following up on
that dou Petron's contracture up. If you have a contractor
of one the people I've seen who've got it, it
seems to be graduated like they get it quite bad
and the little finger, then a little bit more on
the fourth and maybe a touch on the third.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Is it usually?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Is it ever just in one finger?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yes? Can be Oh to start good.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Stuff right, We're going to take a break your cause
we've got a bunch of calls lined up. Will be
taking as getting through as much as we can. My
guest is John Cameron. I'm Tim Beveridge. That is nineteen
minutes to five News Talks. He'd be yes, Welcome back
(31:11):
to the week and Collective. This is the Health hab
Our guest Dtor John Cameron. He is a doctor and
he's with us now taking your calls and text. Just
before we got our next caller, this text that says
I was told I had a gallstone so big it
wouldn't cause me any trouble.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Is this the case?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Or could it turn into cancer? Is worth getting another scan?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
No, okay, it won't turn into cancer. A gallstone will
only cause you major problems. If her blosy outlet to
the gall bladder and normally it's a small stone that
will do that rather than the bedstone.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I wouldn't like being told, no worry, he's just so big,
it's not a problem.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, it's actually true to a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
What causes gallstones?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
God, oh okay, that's horrible. Are there any kidney stones?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Is that different? Different?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Okay, it's different, nasty, nasty things. Oh yeah, they don't
sound fun at all, those things. Sally.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Hello, Hello, I have got a bladder problem and i
can't control it, and I've been using pull ups for
months and months and months. But the problem is I've
got a heart condition which causes fluid around my lungs,
and I'm also having fruits are made to make me
(32:26):
go to the toilet. Is there anything can be done
about this?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Unfortunately, it sounds if you've been investigated, which I take
it that you have. Sometimes we end up with what's
called natonic bladder, which just leaks. It is quite important
from your symptom control to use your fruiz of mind
for that, because running out of your lanes filling up
with fluid is not very pleasant. But you're right, it
(32:53):
will make you pee a lot. Now, as one ages
the bladder control can get worse, and there's medicines of
which we can try, but sometimes they don't work. The endgame,
unfortunately or some people, is either to use disposes like
you're saying, or else to have some form of catheter,
either a urethral catheter or a super pubic catheter which
(33:15):
takes a way out from your bladder so you don't
worry about it, or even intimately self cathacterization. Now that's
an endgame that we don't like to get to, but
unfortunately for some people, that's where we do end up.
So I know it's not very pleasant.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
My doctor has booked me into the hospital, but I
think they're waiting for me to die, so I don't
need to go there. What about you know they're using
something that they use it for your wrinkles on your
face bowtops. Yes at all.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
It can if you've got spasm of the bladder neck.
But if you've got a problem with overflowing leakage, if
you if you stop those muscles from working, that could
actually make your problem worse.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Okay, hey, thanks for your call, Sally. Just on the
on the bladder control thing. As you get older, to
exercises work, I mean for people talk about pelvic flooric.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yes, I want to keep doing those. Yeah, absolutely want
to try and keep as much muscle tone as you
can in that area.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Now. Actually, every time I talked to it here about
people the stories about this, it does remind me to
just keep as active as you can for as long
as you can. If there's anything if you can learn
from other people, just keep moving, move it or lose it,
as they say, right, let's carry on John, Hello.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Yeah, Hi, Look, I've been nice statins for quite a
few years. I think about fifteen or sixteen years.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Is it possible to wean yourself off them? If your
cholesterol's pretty law, If you.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Wean them off, your clefterol will go exactly back to
where it was before you went on.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
What about if you've changed you'd died in the meantime.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, It's sort of like comparing an ant to a howitzer.
So the ants are diet and the howitzer is a statin.
So if you're wanting the effectiveness of lipid control, the
statins are by far, in a way, the most effective
way of dealing. But yes, you can move around your diet.
You can get something up to ten maybe fifteen or
perhaps twenty percent change in the lipid profile on diet,
(35:13):
where you'll get a forty to fifty eighty percent change
on the stat So it's that sort of framework.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Okay, okay, but does it does it damage you if
you if you went off apart from raising you a
cholesterol does it do any other things?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Nope, nope, there's nothing else from that point of view.
You have to go back to work out why you're
placed on the statin in the first instance. Normally we'd
look at your cardiovascular risk either you if you've had
a cardiovascular event, then the evidence is really strong. I'd stroke,
heart attack, something like that. The evidence is really strong there.
As low as we push your low density local protein
(35:48):
component of your cholesterol picture down to one point eight
one point six one point two even you're going to
dramatically reduce your risk of a second event. If you
haven't had an event, then the data gets a little
bit more fluffy and it's more of a discussion.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Okay, yep, okay, thank thanks for much.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Thanks problems Okay, we'll be back, and just the tickets
coming up too. It's just gone eleven minutes to five
news talk, said.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
B one goes up must come down spinning wheel.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Now, that was a theme that came out from one
of our conversations with doctor John Cameron. Something what goes
up must come down. But of course sometimes blood pressure
goes up might not come down. But anyway, I just
wanted to find a song that's tied into the theme.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Generally, it's better than going down and not coming out.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Fun fact that we just shared in the break because
somebody sent me an email and won't be able to
get in a text we won't be able to get into.
But it was just about asparagus. And we all know
that asparagus has the smell. And I thought that there
were some people who processed the asparagus that it wouldn't smell,
And you've just explained that, No, there are some people
who can't smell it, but it is still there.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, and some people. You're right, some people can't make
me kepto puring. But most of these people can't smell
my kepto puring.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Ah, it's a great deal.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Test. Have some sparagus for teen, go and have a week. Oh,
kidney's are working. I can smell it wiveless.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh good, It's that a good test for your to kidneys.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
It means that it's been absorbed, Your kidneys are filtered
out and actually goes.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's the Stranger of vegetables. Really, isn't it beautiful? I
do like it, but it is a weird sort of
many way under let's who haven't got lucky last call?
I M, hello, hello mine?
Speaker 8 (37:22):
Is it just a cosmetics sort of thing? Really? I
have skin as an older person that has when I
run my fingers down my arms or my legs, it
feels like little grains of sand stuck to my skin.
Is there anything I can do about that?
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Or?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
A bit hard to say without seeing what's actually going on.
It would be unusual. If the skin texture is normal,
then I'm not so worried, And if the lumps are
really really fine, I'm not so worried. If there's change
in the skin texture, that would make it slightly more
interesting more concerning.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
No, my skin is quite good. But I just thought
maybe it's just some damage and there's something, some application
that I could put on to dissolve some or whatever.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I think it would be unlikely there's an application you
can put on to dissolve them if they've felt like
little crystalline structures with under the skin. I would show
it to someone of chelity. Doctor. Make sure we're not
missing anything but a big plug we're coming into someone. Now,
please be careful with your skins. It takes an inordinate
amount of my daily time to cut out skin cancers.
(38:28):
I just it's shocking and the New Zealand you know
I'm doing. I'm only a little GP practice, but I'm
doing three to five skin cancer excisions a week.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Blimey. Yeah, okay, Well, I'm good that you're spotting it
and get out rid of it. But yeah, rather, I
have other things to do. I guess, hey, just a
quick one.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I've walked.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
This person says, I've got some water stuck in my
ear from standing too close to the shower head. The
nostril on that side has always blocked my words. Therecho
and I can hear crackling noises. Jiggling the ear lobe
helps temporarily, but it comes back. Will it go away?
Or do I need to see a doctor?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I go and get that s It sounds like you've
probably got a big glove of waxening your ear canal.
In A nice little handy hint you can try before
you see the doctor is sodium by carbonate solution. A
glass of warm water with a couple of teaspoons of
sodium by carbonate making and dribble it into your ear
and try and dissolve the wex away. It'll work nine
times out.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Really, that is a fun fact. Actually, that's We should
probably end on the note of just reminding people about
the sun coming out, because, as they say, you should
wear sunscreen already around but let's be honest, how many
people do that? But now the sun is getting it
just feels different the last few days singing yes, it's
so skin cancer sunscreen, wear it, please, please, please, excellent. Hey,
(39:45):
good to see John, Thanks for me, and you're going
to be going back to watch the cracket I guess.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
So when's the next tonight?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh no, No, one hundred and seven runs to whim
Oh go to the black Cat. Yep, good stuff. Hey,
thanks very much. We'll be back very shortly with a
smart money. Hannah McQueen is joining us, talking about how
you structure your mortgage when interest rates are on the
way down. We'll be taking your course at one hundred
eighty ten eighty and text nine two nine to two
back in just to tech
Speaker 1 (40:32):
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