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July 27, 2021 76 mins
On this week's podcast:

We talk with Ted Rule, diplomat, investment banker, sinologist and writer. With a forty-year career behind him, in Asia and specifically in China, it makes a for a very interesting discussion.

We ask him who runs China and should we be afraid of the CCP. We touch on the great famine (1958-62) and ask whether Shenzhen might even be the most exciting city in the world. Ted talks about the trials of being a junior diplomat in 1970's Beijing, and of course relations between China and Australasia.

We have further comment on climate change and NZ politics, and finally, the Mailroom with Mrs Producer.

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