Remembering the good in people in the wake of tragedy

The final episode of The Nutters Club, on NewstalkZB, aired amidst the unfolding tragedy of a shooting at Bondi Beach, Sydney, Australia. Host Hamish Williams opened the show by addressing the devastating incident, which occurred just hours before the broadcast. 

As details of the tragedy continued to emerge, Williams and producer Boris Sokratov shifted the focus of the show to highlight the importance of kindness and positivity in the face of adversity. ​They encouraged listeners to call in and share stories of people who had made a positive impact in their lives, emphasising the belief that the vast majority of people in the world are inherently good. ​

Throughout the two-hour program, callers shared heartfelt stories of gratitude and resilience. One listener, Neil, expressed his appreciation for his wife, Annabelle, who transformed his life despite his challenging upbringing and current health struggles with dementia and bowel cancer. Another caller, Kahu, shared how a natural remedy, Tulsi tea, had helped him manage his ADHD and sleep issues, offering hope to others facing similar challenges.

The show also featured stories of gratitude for family members, friends, and even strangers who had shown kindness and support during difficult times. One caller, Matthew, highlighted the importance of independence for the disabled community, thanking New Zealand’s Kāinga Ora for providing housing and support that allowed him to live independently.

Listeners also expressed their condolences to those affected by the Bondi Beach tragedy, with one caller, David, sharing information about how New Zealanders concerned for loved ones in the area could contact the New Zealand Police for assistance with welfare checks through Interpol. 

As the show concluded, Williams and Sokratov reflected on the importance of community and connection, especially during challenging times. ​They encouraged listeners to carry the spirit of kindness and empathy into the holiday season and the new year. ​

The Nutters Club will return to the airwaves on January 18th, 2026, continuing its mission to provide a platform for mental health discussions and support.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Greetings and welcome. I'm Hamish Williams and you're listening to
the podcast version of The Nutters Club, a radio show
about mental health broadcast weekly on Newstalk s EDB. Two
hours before we began the broadcast of our final show
for twenty twenty five, two gunmen opened fire at Bondai Beach, Sydney, Australia.

(00:40):
When we went to air, the details of what had
happened were still emerging. As both our audience as well
as ourselves grappled with the news. We took it as
an opportunity to remind those listening that the vast majority
of people in our world are good, and that in
the face of terror, it's important to remember the positive

(01:01):
people in our lives to alleviate fear and anxiety. We
invited calls and texts for people to share the good
people from their lives and their experiences. Here's our final
episode for twenty twenty five. Our deepest condolence is to

(01:23):
those affected by the tragedy that is unfolding tonight in Sydney. Australia.
We're of course talking about the shooting at Bondi Beach.
We're getting in a whole bunch of information this evening
as we confirm the details of what has occurred. However,
we're a mental health show, and it's very easy when

(01:47):
you hear about occurrences such as what is coming to
light in Bondai right now, to believe that we live
in terrible times and perhaps even that the world is
a terrible place. However, that is not the truth. We've

(02:11):
always said on this show, and we'll continue to do
it until such time as we're no longer doing this
show that the world is filled with a vast majority,
and I'm going to say it's in the ninety five
plus percent that people are good. They will help you,

(02:31):
they care, and when they see people in need, they
will respond. And so tonight, on what is actually our
final show for the year, I had a very very
different idea of what we might be talking about tonight. However,
life happens, and so tonight we're going to respond in

(02:53):
the only way that we think is appropriate. I'd like
to encourage you tonight to think about ways that we
can help each other, things that we can do to
be able to help spread those feelings, those thoughts, and

(03:14):
to give platform to the actions of the good people
in our lives. You don't have to think very hard
when I put that challenge in front of you, because
I think you probably know exactly who those people are.
You know their names, you know their faces. They're the
people that are there when you're in your darkest how

(03:36):
They're the people that you know will always have you back.
Sometimes are the people that surprise you with those little
bits of kindness that come out of nowhere, And man,
do you appreciate it when they do. So tonight I'll
be very appreciative. For the next two hours, well, we

(03:57):
will give you updates about what's happening in BONDI, but
I would like to hear about the good people in
your life who make this world a better place. The
phone number to do this is eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
or you can text us on nine to nine to two.

(04:21):
When I heard about this occurring, I was just getting
into the car, so it was about ten o'clock that
I heard about the news. And I can tell you
the first thing I thought was about a friend of mine,
a friend that I've had for many years who owns
a restaurant two blocks back from Bondai Beach. I messaged

(04:42):
him immediately and wanted to know that he was all right.
He's told me already his first hand experience of people
running past his restaurant screaming, and that he did the
only thing he thought he could do. He shut the doors,
and he informed everyone that he wasn't sure what was happening,
but he thinks it was best if they just closed

(05:02):
the doors for now and everyone stayed there until they
could be safe. He's told me all this over messages,
so we've been exchanging messages for the last hour, and
I just told him how happy I was to hear
from him, and how I was really glad to hear
that he was safe. The only thing that I felt
disappointed about was the fact that I didn't message him
just yesterday to ask how he was, because for all

(05:25):
I know, he may not have been there today to
steal it. So I encourage you guys tonight is to
be able to think about the people who have made
that difference in your life. Perhaps it's been this year,
perhaps it's been this month, could have been this week,
but it doesn't have to be limited. It could be
someone special that when you think about the contribution they've
made to your life, you go, that's a top person.

(05:48):
Because while we think about who are the people involved
in this tragic occurrence, I'd like us to be able
to give some time and some platform to the people
who make a positive impact in our day to day.
Joining me in the studio tonight, the producer of The
Nutters Club, Boris Sokratov. Boris, thank you very much for

(06:11):
being here to keep me company, seeing as Carle MacDonald
is in an entirely other than hemisphere currently, Boris, who
do you think about when you think about someone that's
made a good and positive impact in your life.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's a very good question. And right now I was
thinking about my oncologists.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Fair enough.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
He certainly made a very big difference to my life.
And on Friday I had, you know, just a couple
of days ago, I had a colonoscopy.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Now last week, if people hadn't heard you, you shared
your your your cancer journey with us, and so you
had the big check up. I mean, you came and
talked to here and you told us, jeez, you know
what an ordeal it had been. But also how grateful
you were. But then rubber hits the road when you
go and have a colonoscopy.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right, and the preparation for one of those is not
a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, I mean, I suppose it just means how you
look at it. I mean, if you wanted to clear
your insides out, it's one way to do it. Clear
it certainly does that gets you ready for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
And you know, I was talking to him, and well,
actually before I saw him, I saw the anesthetist, and
the anesthetist was running me through his checks. And when
you know, he said alone, And I said, the most
important man in the room. And he said, well, I

(07:36):
wouldn't look at it that way. He said, well, I
would because you're the man keeping me alive. You know,
people forget that, they think this, you know, the surgeon
is the most important person there. Well they are, don't
get me wrong on that. But I tend to think
that the person who's keeping you alive is the most
important in the room. And then I think about my wife.
You know, it was her that effectively forced me to

(08:04):
get a cholonoscopy last last year. And if she hadn't
done that, I wouldn't be here today. So you know,
I've got a lot of people to be thankful for.
And recently, as I was mentioning to you just before
we started, I had the good fortune to meet some

(08:24):
Buddhist monks, wonderful people, absolutely wonderful people, and I feel
my life is so much richer for having the experience
of meeting them. So you know, it's refreshing, I guess,
to meet new people, to see how people who come

(08:48):
from different cultures and different ethnicities do things, and it's
something that you can celebrate. And I'm a great believer too,
that you know, despite all of its sham, drudgery and
broken dreams and the adversitory that we all have to face,
that the world is still a wonderful place and that

(09:14):
people are inherently good.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'll tell you how I'm going to say. There's the
people I'm really thankful for this year. I'm thankful for
the people who contribute and call and text into this show.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh me too, one percent, And you know, it's actually
one of the highlights of my week coming in here
to how long have I been doing this?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Seventeen years?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Seventeen years. And I always say to people, you know,
if I had the choice between a good night's sleep
and doing this, I would choose the good night's sleep
every time. But this show isn't about me. It's about
the listeners. It's about the people who, some of whom,
as we know, may be close to losing all hope.

(10:01):
And when I hear the other the people who call
after somebody's owned in and talked about all of the
adversity and the hardship that they've gone through, and then
somebody calls and wants to provide help and assistance, then
it raises my spirit.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And we have occurrences of this on a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And in this two hour window what is some might
think a ridiculous time of the week, And yet here you.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Are and here are the listeners, you know, so I'm
very grateful for that.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
So look, I would love to hear from you guys tonight,
and it would just be who you've been really grateful for,
who's been in your corner, who's helped you out in
a significant way. And when I say significant, it doesn't
have to be that it was the big, grandiose thing
that somebody did, But sometimes it can just be that
person that was consistently kind to you, and someone that

(10:59):
you asked you how you're going, or actually showed that
they cared. Who were they, what did they do? I
really want to share those stories tonight because actually I
think we all need them.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
And you know, somebody who's been thoughtful, somebody who's been
considerate those sorts of things like today, had a wonderful,
wonderful lady show up at our place and she just
made some stolen which is German Easter bread but you

(11:36):
eat it a Christmas time. Oh okay, all right, and
had too freshly baked loads of those of that for us.
You know how nice was that?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's pretty nice. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, so I think it's awesome too.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
In the wake of the information and the tragedy that
is unfolding at a Bon Dai beach in Sydney, Australia,
we wanted to remind all of you out there actually
that there are incredibly good people in this world and
that in this country, and actually wanted to give you
the opportunity to tell us about the people in your
life who've made a real difference for you this year.

(12:10):
It doesn't have to be this year, but I guess
I'm just sort of saying that because it's our last
show for twenty twenty five and lucky calls are coming in.
I'm going to go straight to you. Let's go to
a car. Who caho good eything to you? Here's yeah,
good good Are you? Are you down at the beach
or something? You sound like you've got the surf breaking

(12:32):
behind you.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
No, no, there was a druck running because I pulled over.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Good Man, good Man. I liked where I was going
with it. It sounded more exotic. But anyway, cahu, how
are you going?

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Man?

Speaker 6 (12:42):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
What are you thinking in terms of people have made
an impact for you this year?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Okay, so a while ago, I don't I remember I
was the one that had ADHD and I had struggle
sleeping four days.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I do remember you calling and telling us about that.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, so yeah, I actually just wanted to thank you
guys for helping me to get ahold of doctor Fernando
or Awkland.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So you met goes our Remember we pulled those details up.
I think Kyle Cale made debt recommendation for you.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, well it's definitely I had to wait a year
to go see him, but I'm still in the process
of seeing him as well.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
So yeah, hopefully that will help.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
But I also found out tolls t is that's actually
been helping me sleep, which is weird.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Do you know what that is?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, I don't explain to us what it is.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Kah So Tolsi t's they call it holy basil. Now,
that is something that over in India, every household has it.
They use it and it's like our lemons and honey,
I guess for our winters. They use it over there
for the same similar properties. But yeah, it seems to

(13:55):
help people with ADHD to be able to relax and
switch off. So that's been helping me amazingly since yeah,
I just started probably like a week ago, and it's
been worth working amazing I've never never been able to
have a night sleep well within twenty four hours without medication.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'm just having a look at it now online and
just to be really clear for people listening, So Tolsi
it's it's spelled t u l s I tollsy holy basil.
It's completely natural. It's just a it's just a you know,
well it's classed as a supplement, but you know, it's
it's completely natural type thing and how long have you

(14:38):
been taking it for?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Okay, just about a pretty about a week now, So
it's not recommended to drink it like like as you know,
have four or five cups of tea to day. It's
I just make I use like these tea bags you
can buy that are empty U using like either tolsy
powder or tallsy leaves or something that be even better

(15:01):
if you can find them, and then just use like
a teasperone and a half or two teaspoons, depending on
how wide awake I am, and just put that in
the tea bag and then seal it off and then
put it in a hot drink and read it sitting
there for like maybe two minutes, and then did just
drink it as you would, and about an hour later,

(15:21):
I start feeling extremely relaxed, and yeah, I look real
and I managed just usually sleep within two hours, which
is not what I'm used to.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, that's outstanding, and you know what, if it's working,
keep doing tod they.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, thank you for sharing it.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's be a lot of people
out there, and I only found it because one of
my other mates she had eighty HD as well, and
she's just like me, she's tried every single sleeping medication
out there that we are allowed to take in New
Zealand and nothing worked for her either. And then she
mentioned it when she was over in India and told
me that they gave her that, and she said as
being the be's v So then I decided, whoa, you've

(16:04):
got the exact same problems as me. I want to
go test this out. And then sure enough, yeah it
worked on me as well.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yes, so I've had a look online where you've been talking,
and you can get it as a tea, you can
get it as a concentrate, you can get it as capsules,
whatever works for yourself.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Really Yeah, yeah, so I've got the powder and the leaves,
so I just jumped between either one of them whatever
I feel like making at the time. But yeah, I
definitely harghly highly recommend it to people who have as
you're sleeping this for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, I'm really really happy to hear that you've found
a solution that's working, and even better that you managed
to get in contact with the doctor as well.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yes, I see doctor Fernando in March, but yeah, I
thought of this is working and I'm able to save
a whole heap of money.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yes, exactly, well on that on that night then Carho
mery Christmas.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, yes it and thank you so much for your
help that you do for everybody on the show. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Now, look at car Who. It's our pleasure mate. I mean,
it's just basically trying to share a bit of information
with each other and most of all, make sure that
people know out there that we've got each other's backs.
We're here to support each other and together we'll probably
find a way.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah. Yeah, no you think it. Guyes have been great.
I love your show.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Thanks man, Well, thank you so much for listening. You
have a great Christmas and happy New Year from all
of us here, right, Yeah, you guys do and keep
in contact. Let us know how you get on next year.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, well thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
All right, go well, car Who sleep tight? I guess
I should say now you're on the toulsi t sounds great.
Look I knew I was going to have this happen.
Beverly just texted me and she said what is it called?
And where do you get it? For sleep? Now she's
talking about the tea. That's the last call of car
who was just talking about so it's it's called Tulsi

(18:01):
t u l s I, otherwise known as Holy Basil.
I did a quick Google search and to be quite
clear with you, Beverly, you can buy it from just
a man anywhere, so it's all over the show. You
You can grow it as a plant in your own
backyard if you want, any chemist, any chemist, it looks like, yeah,

(18:24):
heaps online. I can buy it from Mighty ten if
I want there you go, there you go. I mean,
how many how many things do you reckon you can
buy from min to ten Andy Pharmacy? You know what
I mean? Like the crossover of items that you can
do that with must be very very small, you would
like to think, so you would hope. So indeed, Okay, look,
thank you so much. I'm going to go straight back

(18:46):
to the lines. David. Good evening to you.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Hello, Haymer Shock. If I may just interrupt your topic discussion,
just with respect to the tragedy unfolding and bond Ay
or Sydney, probably around the world, many families like we
were a few hours ago, wondering that our sun and
his part who regularly go to Bondai Beach, and when

(19:12):
we couldn't reach them. Obviously we started to worry about
the safety. Obviously were still you know, many people will
still be in that position, but for us we finally
managed to get through. But if there are news evandors
that are genuinely concerned about loved ones that they think
might have been in that Bondi Beach area, they would

(19:33):
need to contact the New Zealand Police, who will then
through interfoal do what's called a welfare check if in
fact family over here can't reach their families that they
know obviously could have been on that beach this afternoon
and that tragedy unfolded.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
David, thank you for that. And is this a process
that you've done yourself this evening It was.

Speaker 8 (19:58):
I could see a lot of stuff coming up online
and so in the end Eye contacted directly the Australian
Police and they simply informed me that the process is
if you've not heard in this case from our son,
that we would need to contact New Zealand Police through HINTOPOL,

(20:18):
who would then commence a welfare checks in the quick process.
But in our case, our Sun will actually at another
beach and at a cell arrange for several hours when
we were trying to phone him and that's why we
couldn't connect. But fortunately for us, they're safe and well.
But no doubt there may be New Zealanders and people
around the world that are going through the similar anguish

(20:41):
as we were, wondering if in that their loved ones
might have been caught up in this tragedy and obviously
not my great deal about what's actually taking place. You know,
you begin to wonder, don't you.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, Look, David, thank you very much for giving us
that information. Tonight, we have got that there and if
anyone is just wanting us to repeat that, if you
are trying to make contact with somebody in Australia that
you can't make contact with it you believe may have
been in the area, then contact the New Zealand Police

(21:12):
in the first instance and they will be able to
assist you to be able to do what is the
technically termed a welfare check. And we are hoping that
if you're in that situation that it's going to be
good news for you tonight. That it is still an
unfolding situation in terms of the information that's coming down,
but our understanding is is that it's the gunman have

(21:34):
been detained so that's really just getting the details of
what on earth has happened here, and there will be
more information coming through the evening. We'll keep you updated.
Thanks very much, David. Look back to one of the
other texts that we had there. Another text was asking
can you drink Tulsi t This is what car who
was talking about, saying it had done fantastic for his

(21:57):
sleep issues. Can you drink Tulsi tea if you are
on antidepressants? The answer to this is consult with your
doctor GP or medical advisor in the first instance, play
I would not either think that I was qualified to
give you information around how that could be likely, as

(22:18):
likelihood is that it would be fine. But I would
say make sure you check with your GP first if
you've got any concerns on that front. Where are we going?
We're going to go back to the lines. Neil, good
evening to you.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Good evening.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is that Hamish as Neil good to hear your voice.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
It's good to hear your voice.

Speaker 9 (22:39):
May I please be allowed to start with deepest or
sincere condolences for the families of those people who've been
had in Australia. It is utterly dreadful. God bless them.
It's so awful, Hamish, you invaded your listeners to talk

(23:11):
about a person who's had a positive and significant effect
on their life. Yes, well, I would like to say, ma'am. Well,
my wife her name is Anna, but I call her
ma'm Hamish. I am. I am an old man now,

(23:36):
but I am.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
The result of.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
A very very abusive upbringing in all sorts of ways
which I won't go into. So I was carrying a
lot of baggage. Ma'am must have seen something in me,
because I had to ask several times, but she agreed
to marry me. She has been utterly wonderful. She is bossy,

(24:08):
she tells me off. And now I've got a bit
of dementia, and I've also got what's bowel cancer, so
I'm on the downward slope. And she is the most wonderful,

(24:30):
wonderful She's my best friend in the world. I absolutely
adore her.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Neil, it's wonderful to hear.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
And now this is Boris, and I want you to
know we adore your mum too. There was used to
be an old television commercial many years ago for a deodorant,
of all the things. It was called Mum deodorant, and
the line was I can't get by without my mom.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Ha.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
And you know that that.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
Very interesting, gentlemen. Did you say, Boris, that's correct going
through a colin? Yes, Well, needless to say, I've had
that a number of times, you know, while the diagnosis
messing about my heart is with him? And what I've

(25:29):
what I do? Sorry? What was your name? My dear
boris Adam John.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
My name is Boris. It's Morris with a bee.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
Hello, Boris?

Speaker 10 (25:45):
Well, what what I do?

Speaker 9 (25:48):
Boris? I am? I am not a clever person. I
have no medical knowledge, and physically I'm sort of not
well at all. But I have my notebook here Boris,
And when the beautiful listeners ring, and if someone is

(26:13):
cheerful and struggling, I write their name down and I
say prayer for them.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh, Neil, your wonderful name.

Speaker 9 (26:22):
That's the best help I can be. And I could
argue that that's the greatest help there is. That that's
my opinion.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, Neil, all I'm going to say is thank you
for your consideration, for your kindness, for your giving to
people that you don't even know, you haven't even met.
You are among exactly what we were talking about you
are one of the mini mini mini good people doing
great things.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
Thank you, God bless you and keep you, and God
bless your loved ones.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Neil much appreciated and he mush I'd like to add
to that. Neil is one of those people that inspires
me because it's not what happens to you that matters.
It's what you do about it that counts. And you
can feel the warmth and the kindness in Neil's voice

(27:20):
and that's what his m'am would have felt as well,
and his actions, I bet are consistent. Anybody who keeps
a notebook to take down, you know, anything that somebody
has said that's kind of thoughtful on going through adversity

(27:40):
and then says a prayer for them. My kind of person.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
In the wake of the tragic unfolding situation in Bondi, Sydney, Australia,
where we have now had a number of confirmed deaths,
we are looking to remind ourselves that actually the vast
majority of people, we always say this, ninety five percent

(28:05):
plus people in the world are good people and they
will help you at the drop of a hat. And
it's important for us to remember that in these times,
and in fact, there are even starting to be of
footage and stories that are coming out of what's happened
in Bondi that completely and utterly confirmed that. However, at
this point I'm going to let the news take care
of that because when these sort of situations happen, there's

(28:28):
a lot of information flying around and the news boks
hed B and the New Zealand Herald newsroom are working
hard as you can imagine, trying to just confirm all
of those details to make sure that we give you
everything that's accurate. A couple of text messages that have
come in here, somebody this has just said, here, can

(28:49):
Neil please write down my name in his book and
please say a prayer for me. I'm going through a
very hard time right now. Beverly is my name, and
that's for Neil. Look wow, I mean I was blown
away when Neil said that boris.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Me too, and Beverly, our thoughts are with you too.
All right, We're here for you.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Another text here says to Neil, your previous caller, you
are a very special man. My heart goes out to you,
and ma'am love it. And that's the thing, right. You
don't think about that when you probably call in the
show that actually, somewhere sitting in New Zealand is a
man who's battling experiencing dementia, living with cancer and potentially

(29:38):
writing down your name and hoping for nothing but the
best for you. Yeah, and I would hope that in
what could be you know, for many is a very
dark night, and definitely it will be a very dark
night for Australia as they grapple with the reality of
what's happened. The idea that there's this man sitting in

(29:58):
New Zealand who just genuinely wishes nothing but the best
for others and is writing people's name down in a
book to wish that to them. I don't know about you, Boris,
but that fills me with a little bit of hope.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
It certainly does it for me, and it also reminds
me of a man called mister Rogers back in the
nineteen sixties I think it was, who had a television
show in the United States, and one of the key
things he always said was, you know, when things aren't
aren't good, look for the helpers, all right, And I

(30:30):
bet you're right now. Even through all of the termoil
that's happening in Sydney at BONDI there would have been
people wanting to help others.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
It happens in every situation, it does, you know, and
we continually see that there's people here who are doing
incredible things. The TV show you're talking about now, the
host was called Fred Rogers, that's right, and he hosted
He was the host of a preschool television series and
it was called Mister Rogers Neighborhood. And get this, it

(31:04):
ran from nineteen sixty eight to two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Wow, I didn't know it had run that long.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
He was so he finished the show when he was
about seventy two, and he actually passed two years later,
you know.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
And I remember this. There is there is a clip
of him presenting to a group of politicians and it
was politician at Congress or something, and they were cutting
the budgets. They were cutting all the budgets and he
was asked to present to the man who was in

(31:43):
charge of all the cuts. And he presented and that man,
I can't remember. It was quite incredible. What mister Rogers
said had such a big impact on him. He said
that actually I'm going to give you, you know whatever It
was like a million dollars, so you can do this
not bad. Ah.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I think it highlights the fact that sometimes when we
actually understand the value of what people do when it
comes to helping others, we want to see the clear
pathway to keep helping them, keep doing it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's right and clearly you did it for a long
long time.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
We'll go back to the lines, Albie, good evening.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
To you, Good evening to you.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
You know for us here doing there.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Mate, all the better for hearing from you.

Speaker 10 (32:29):
My brother lived the great feelings of empathy, kindness, helping
other people in times of need, all those things. And
she passed in the two thousands. She was a great lady.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
How did she? How did she show some of those things? Alby?

Speaker 10 (32:56):
Oh, well, I really she saw them when really young.
But looking back the way she would cover up thee
or in times in need it will say children the
next to me, hold the hand and keep the hand
and sort of looking back in those wee things like that,

(33:19):
and I realized how actually cared for me.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, that's wonderful. And lbit spars you know how much
will back me up on the side. Always said that
my mother was is and will always be my hero.

Speaker 10 (33:38):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I think of lots of things that
m I'll tell you one thing. By next door they
had chucks, so I cut the grass. So I made
a mess over around the circle, you know, look a mess.
And I woke up the next morning and guess what

(34:01):
was in it?

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Go on and he.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
But looking back, I think she must have fled to
the the.

Speaker 9 (34:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (34:14):
We think about that, you know, and what we were
quite forward, we know, and heads and chokes and David
put them in the hot water and take the feel
of them up them and sit down and pod the
face and you know something but nice.

Speaker 11 (34:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, Well there's simple things often give us the greatest pleasure,
you know.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
And it's said about BONDI beach and we can what
we can do is offer them our prayers, sure, you know,
and I mentioned that, you know, I mean I can't
I can't imagine that really, But if you just see,
you know, offer our praise for them and.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
We're thinking of.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Them, I think the other thing will be and I'd
imagine that you'd be very good at this actually is
over the next few weeks, as we come up to
Christmas and we come into a new year, is just
make that little bit more of an effort to be
kind and grateful and empathetic to the people that we
come into contact with. I think it's something that I

(35:30):
think every one of us is capable of doing, and actually,
in the wake of what's happened, probably matters now more
than ever.

Speaker 10 (35:38):
Yeah I don't agree. Yeah, yeah, please pleasure to thank
you and the high and hey you going great day,
you know, just those wee things there.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
And it will be as a regular call to our show.
Can I just say, on behalf of everyone on this
end of the microphone, Merry Christmas and a happy New
Year to you and your dog, oh as well?

Speaker 10 (36:03):
I shar Eaves laying on his back with his feet
up in.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
The How is Barnie? How is he good?

Speaker 10 (36:11):
He's he's asleep at the moment. He's on his deck
with his feet up in the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think all of us could, could you know, channel
out in a barney, don't.

Speaker 10 (36:26):
I don't know what dogs to read things can be.
I've said this before. They're sitting down filming them, it said,
and they walked around and dump his chops on my lep.
You know, I don't know how he knows or these things.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, we don't have to know. We just had to
accept that he does.

Speaker 10 (36:50):
Oh there's so much love and the feet should I
get from them?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh, look, i'll tell you. I'll tell you that's one.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
I'll be.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
A couple of months ago, actually, start of November, I
was down for my family, a family and tonment so
for my for the ashes for my my aunt who
passed this year. And i'd literally just sort of come
from the come from the family gathering back to the airport.

(37:18):
And I was at the airport and there was a
guy there with a guide dog. And guide dogs aren't
supposed to leave their people, by the way, but this
guyde dog. This guyde dog for whatever reason, that's it's
its owner was busy on his phone. Actually I say
he was blind, but you know, he was holding the

(37:38):
phone right up to his face. And I didn't motion
to the dog. I didn't make eye contact with the dog,
and the dog walked straight over to me in a
direct line, came, took its nose and put it right
underneath my arm and lifted my arm up and then
put it ten on my on my knee and stayed
there for about ten seconds looked at me and then

(38:01):
and then bug it off. And it's the And I
just thought, I think that dog sense that I just
needed it, you know, I needed someone to come and
say hi. And I mean the world to me because
I love labradors.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
A visible story you just told. It's uplifting.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Look for the helpers. They're all around us. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you too are always great to hear from you. Okay,
we are. We're just going to quickly read this text
message from Nicky and NICKI says thank you for your sensible,
kind and wise words. With what is unfolding and the

(38:39):
terrible tragedy in Bondai Beach, my heart goes out to
all those affected. A highlight for me has been the
privilege of being to help my elderly parents, but really
it's what they give to me. This has been a
difficult year for me, but my wonderful parents have been
my greatest supporters and always there for me. I am
in awe of them and all they do despite having

(39:02):
their own challenges. They are amazing and I am so blessed.
The world is good and full of wonderful people, some
of whom will be demonstrating this in BONDI tonight from
the kid. My thoughts tonight was that, actually, it's a
very good opportunity for us to remind ourselves that, even

(39:25):
in the face of this kind of awful and horrid
action that has occurred, to remind ourselves of the good
people in the world, of which I'm pretty keen to
say would be well over ninety five percent. We too
often can concentrate on the horrors of the world, And

(39:46):
tonight I thought it was a really good idea for us,
being a mental health show, to give some time to
talk about the good people in our lives, the people
who have made a real difference. And tonight I'd like
to give you the opportunity to give us a call
on oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty to tell
us who are those people and what is it that

(40:07):
they've done for you that has made a difference. So
the lines are open to you. I've got a few
texts come through that I'd like to read to you.
This one's from Grant. He says, Hi, guys, I struggle
to explain why my mother was so good, But to
sum it up, I would say that she justified me,
and that's why she was such a great mum. May

(40:29):
she rest in peace. She is from Grant and this
one from Emma says, good evening. I'm not sure if
the show has ever spoken about the service, but just
a reminder that if you're struggling and need someone to
talk to, you can speak with a health improvement practitioner
at your GP clinic.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes they're not at every cheepy practice, but they are there.
It's a good point.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
This is what I do, and we're here to support
people with their mental health and it's completely free. So
just so you know, that's the health improvement practitioner. And
another one just here says Hamish, you and Kyle have
been very kind and helpful to me and many people
on your program, So you're a wonderful people in others' lives.
A pat on the back well deserved. Well, look, thanks,

(41:18):
I'll give Kyle the pat on the back when he
comes back. He's currently somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere searching
for a white Christmas and we wish him all the best.
Texton here from Lisa says highly says sorry from LISTA,
it's high Hamish. I was just wondering did that guy
from down South end up with his mobility scooter. I
can't quite remember the details though, Sorry, Boris do you

(41:40):
want to give us the update?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
It's a good question and it's a work in progress.
We are just currently talking with some freight forwarders about
getting it to Auckland and we're hope well in the
morning I'll be talking with him again.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
So it's in train and that was for Steve who's
up here in Auckland, and Katie donated it down for
there in christ Church. So we've got their details and
we're just trying to kind of piece it all together.
I predict success and we look forward to giving you
an update. I'll put an update on the Facebook page
when when we get more information. Seeing is this is
the last show of the year. Hey, look With that

(42:21):
in mind, we'd still love to hear from you guys tonight,
so I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty or
send us a text on nine two niney two. The
people who have made a positive impact in your life,
who were they, what did they do and why did
it mean so much? I'd love to hear from you
on this. Let's go to the lines now, Chris, good

(42:44):
morning to you.

Speaker 12 (42:46):
Good morning. Firstly, I would like to say I feel
for our beloved Jewish community in Bondo. I'm calling from
Australia and.

Speaker 13 (42:56):
This is really bad.

Speaker 12 (42:59):
I hope this radical cult gets crushed by the government
as soon as possible. They have no place doing this type,
perhaps here in Australia.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Chris, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're just sort of
grappling with the information as as everyone does. But you know,
have you have you been talking with any of your
other friends or family this evening, have you heard how
now they're feeling about it all.

Speaker 12 (43:24):
I've watched it on the news obviously, and the people
discharging weapons. Yeah, it was really ugly. But I just
hope that the new Southwest government can stop anything more
like this in the future, and that would be a
good thing.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Well, you know, Australia and New Zealand have a really
proud history of an acting very effective responses to these
kind of events, and I would I would be hopeful
that the same would happen here.

Speaker 12 (44:00):
Yeah here, Now you were talking about the most important
person in your life.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh, I mean, that's I think that'd be good. Yeah,
go for it.

Speaker 9 (44:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (44:13):
I thought the first thing should be a tribute to
the people that lost their lives. But secondly, the actual
topic is this. My most important person.

Speaker 8 (44:23):
In my life.

Speaker 12 (44:26):
Is my nanna and I love her dearly, but that
should be my wife. When I first met her, I
was living above a pub in a Sydney neighborhood and
working at the local cafe, you know, sixty five something
else a week, you know, and in doing the finish work,

(44:49):
go out, spend, you know, live the party life. And
she said to me, after a couple of months, this
isn't working for me. She took over my ability to
do that in terms of that's your allowance per day,
and after eleven years, were mortgage free in our own

(45:11):
home off on the Central coast.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
Because of her discipline.

Speaker 12 (45:16):
Now, I would have never have got to looking like
in my own backyard instead of my own debt. Without
that interference in my you know what I was doing
just to survive. Basically, she showed me there's a way forward,

(45:37):
there's a goal, there's something that you can achieve. Be
a part of this journey with me. And I said, okay,
where do I sign? And they say it takes a
good woman to make a good person great, But I'm
telling you she was a good person. But she's great.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
That is outstanding, mate, outstanding. How fortunate are you?

Speaker 12 (46:06):
I wouldn't have like, even if sure I'm sitting on
I probably wouldn't have had that if it wasn't for
her saying, you can do better. You need discipline because
you're an unruled person who likes to party too much.
Now you know, Now, now I choose, I pick and

(46:28):
choose what I do. I can go on holidays and
buy things. It's all because she was disciplined, and she
taught me that I had to be as well. Like
that is a life lesson that you can't just learn
if you're frivolous with your money and you become used

(46:51):
to that behavior.

Speaker 9 (46:51):
So she saved my life.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Guys, Yeah, and you know there's another there's another aspect
of that too. You almost you must also be willing
to receive that message at that time, and you and
you were, you know.

Speaker 12 (47:12):
I honestly think, and I'm not like, I'm not religious,
but I think that she got paired with me. So
she needed me for certain reasons, but I needed her
for certain reasons. And it was a match made in heaven.
And it turns out that I did actually know her

(47:33):
brother for two years beforehands and when he introduced us
on the first night, we started getting along and he
I knew you guys would get along and then and
then getting along to marriage, mortgage, life, you know. So

(47:55):
it was quite funny how that all worked out. You know.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Well, look, you know, life is a lot a lot
easier I think with some company along the way. And
also too, it's it's great when you're propping each other up,
because what has she got out of it? She's got
to have, you know, a great guy who obviously thinks
the world of hevery He just rang a whole other
country to tell the entire listening population how awesome she is.

(48:20):
You know, you must be doing something right, Chris.

Speaker 12 (48:24):
Well, look, I'm doing what I do right, and.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 12 (48:29):
Everybody had a missus like I do. Every man in
the world will be happy here here.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Good on you, Chris, Thank you so much for you know,
calling in tonight and hey look at one once again.
Just know that everyone on this side of the ditch
is thinking about you guys, and you know, we're hoping
for everyone to be all good over there, and hopefully
this situation resolves itself. Got a text here from Allen
is his good morning, Hamish and Boris. The most significant

(48:58):
person in my life is my partner and a little
over a year ago she saved my life after contracting
influenza a that turned into pneumonia.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
That's nasty.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
She spent the last one hundred dollars to get an
oxymeter from the chemist. When she checked my oxygen levels,
they were twenty five out of one hundred. Is that bad?

Speaker 9 (49:19):
Boris?

Speaker 2 (49:20):
It's bad? Okay, notified the ambo who put me in
hospital where every day she sat next to me I
was in a medical coma. This wonderful person is Katie,
who's also the scooter doner.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Oh well, why doesn't that surprise us?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Katie is a remarkable person and she will do just
about anything for you. I am so grateful that I
can spend another Christmas with the one that I love.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Thank you for sharing that with us.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
This one is I'll read it. It just says I'd like
to thank my old boss who pushed me to believe
in myself and pushed me to follow my goals and
never base them on the words from others. Thank you,
Scott Larry from the Invoco company. Make of that? What
you will. But I love it. I love the sentiment

(50:14):
that's coming through from you guys tonight because that's exactly
what I wanted us to see. If we could put
on the airwaves and you guys once again are coming through.
Let's go back to the lines. Ron. Good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (50:27):
Good morning to you relating through the unfortunate circumstances in Sydney.
I'm Australian and I've been in these Zealand for a
long time. I used to live in Blondey for a
number of years and during that time, many years ago,
I had a lot to do with the Jewish population

(50:50):
in the area. The Jewish population they came that was
involved was at the Temple of Manual, which present what
are just down. I've done martial arts. I've done sixty
nine years of martial arts up to now I've retired
out of it, and I would I've done a demonstration

(51:10):
with my club I used to have in brook Bale
in Sydney and we've done a demonstration over at at
the Temple of Manual for the Jewish people. And surprisingly enough,
I've just at this moment just been looking at the
photographs I've got of the US doing there and all
the young children. Then Temple of Manu with the Jewish
boys and girls, how they they loved it. And then

(51:33):
in the end I started up with judo club for
the Jewish popular population there many years ago, and I
just wonder for all those young children I had taught
over there two three years. You know, I trust that
they're still safe.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
We hope too.

Speaker 14 (51:50):
Incredible. That's incredible to believe that that that type of
thing could happen. But yeah, that was sixty nine years ago.
It's quite quite a while ago. But those young children
now would be adults, and no doubt they're still living them.
We are bond and they wrote out as ben Jewish people,

(52:12):
they would be going through the temple whenever they go.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Well, I'll tell you what, Ron, if I was you,
the thing I'd be doing is, at the very least,
if if you're interested and you want to find out,
I'd get in contact with them and at the very
least just let them know that you're thinking of them,
because I would say it will mean the world for them.
And in the wake of what's happened in BONDI tonight.

Speaker 14 (52:36):
So it's contact with these days. It's a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Well, just just to use use the old Google if
you can get access to a computer, and if if
you haven't got your own computer, then go to your
public library and just ye, just search up the name
and you should get the address pretty quickly. And I'll
tell you what, if I was them, I'd be stoked
to get a letter from you and and you someone
will probably go, I remember Rong Rong the judo guy. Yeah, yeah,

(53:04):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Don't have an email address, and you can just drop
them an email.

Speaker 14 (53:10):
Well, to me, it's quite incredible when I sing it,
and you know I taught. I taught these young young
children were over three years and they were they were
superb people people I like them.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Well, I'm I guarantee Ron, you might be surprised, but
I would hope that someone would remember it, because people
would usually, you know, have have good memories around a
lot of that stuff, especially when they're young. And then
it sounds like you're a good bloke. I'm sure you
did a greand job.

Speaker 14 (53:39):
Well, I thought that my own club over there, and
I've been in New Zealand for quite some time because
my wife and so who I met in Australia, she
was the other nursing sister, and she wanted to come
back those here, and so I came over with her
and I had my judo club. But the in your
short MCA for forty four years.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Wow, are you still doing any any judo yourself from?

Speaker 14 (54:01):
Unfortunately, I got one crypt me that needs replacing. And
at my age, I'm getting past the stage of being
physically involved. I'm a cripple. I'm I'm walking sticks. Yeah,
it's just one of those things that happened on eighty
six years of age. But I've done it since I
was seventeen, wow, and up to last year. And I've

(54:27):
made a lot of friends in martial arts, especially in
the judo, and judo in New Zealand is very strong
as well. It's very good to see it. That's fantastic,
a fantastic martial art for the ladies who get attacked
and you know, beat it up and so forth, joined
a judo club, learned a bit of shop defense.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
You can't go wrong, I'll tell you what, because you know,
and we've we've got a teenage daughter who started working.
You know, she's she's working a job and she gets
the bus and you know, obviously we had another in
our own terrible tragedy happened here and with the attacks
on the buses. Dearie reckon because she uses the bus still,

(55:10):
do you reckon? I should send it to some judo
classes wrong.

Speaker 14 (55:13):
I think if you've heard the tender to one of
the judo clubs that there are seven there are ten
and twelve judo clubs in the Auckland area right through
and it'd be worth while going through it. You don't
get your black belt overnight. Total years took me to
get my first break belt. It took me six years. Wow,

(55:34):
that's how That's how much you've got to put into it,
and that's how much I've got to learn. I now
have a fifty early black belt, which I've been show
last but I've got in twenty eleven, I got my
fifth done. But unfortunately it's I like to get back
into it, but I don't know. I've been thinking maybe
I may go back and join a club and just

(55:57):
help out, just on the map.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
That's a great idea. And you know, there's a lot
of wisdom. You don't have to do the physical stuff.
You know you can pass on that wisdom and all
that knowledge.

Speaker 14 (56:09):
Very true, and there's you know, there's there's a lot
of there's there's a lot of interest in the juno.
I mean in my class has over the years, I've
the people I've taught. I've had one girl so to
go to the Olympics Barcelona, and I've had two girls
in the Common Games when they were here in well,
in the New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
I would be good.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I would say, Ron, that you know, for all of
your years, having having been involved with judo for the
vast majority of your life, even if you will yeah,
I mean six sixty one years, I would say that
you sixty nine, sixty nine years. Sorry, Ron, let's not
let's not lose all those of those eight years off there.
For sixty nine years, Ron, I would say that you

(56:51):
probably would see things that people didn't even realize that
they weren't doing. Just jue your experience. I'd love having
someone with sixty nine years sitting on the sidelines just
just giving a you know, like a wise eye over
what I was doing. They'd be lucky to have you
in the room.

Speaker 14 (57:09):
Well, one night, I've been thinking about it. My push
and my good lady passed away four years ago. She
was in a heal ressied nursing sister.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Sorry to hear that.

Speaker 14 (57:18):
Pass away four years ago. That it's unfortunate and I
lived by myself out in Golf Harbor. I like New Zealand.
I don't thought they've going back to Australia and been
Australian citizen, but I don't know. I like New Zealand
a great pace.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
We're very grateful to have you here Ron from all
of us on this end. Merry Christmas and a happy
New Year to you, and thanks for all the time
and that you've given to so many others in your
life as well. I'm sure it was greatly received. Hey, tonight,
in the wake of the news that we're coming out
of Sydney, Australia Bondi Beach about a tragic shooting that

(57:57):
has occurred there, we wanted to ask you guys to
give us calls about the people in your life that
have been significant in making a good impact for you,
a positive impact, because it's our belief that ninety five
percent of the world, maybe even a bit more predominantly
good people, and your calls are coming in thick and fast.

(58:18):
That's the reason why we'll leave the newsroom to do
their thing, and they are working really hard. Now. I'm
looking right through there now and I can see they
are disseminating the information. We'll let them do their job.
In the meantime, I want to hear from you. And
with that in mind, we're going to go straight back
to the lines. Matthew, good morning to you.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
Ah, good morning ah. Well, you know, back to New
Zealand here. But you're asking sort of what I would
like to appreciate what people are done in New Zealand.
For New Zealand is ourselves living in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
That is.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
Not everybody at Christmas time has a family, and the
disability community that has a family. And still we're living
in twoenty and twenty five and we're nearly moving to
twenty twenty six. And the reality of the little bit

(59:23):
of the dark side is that in the disability community,
not everybody has a family that wants the disability community
to go back home to celebrate Christmas with them. And
so I would on the bright side light to think

(59:44):
kayang Aura, which was once called house in New Zealand
and kiang Aura has given the disability community so much
financial independence of where, of what state the person with
the disability likes to live their own lights and not

(01:00:06):
rely on their family because their family made them feel
like they were maybe a blessing in the future, but
not so much a blessing in the past. And I'd
like to thank Pianga Aura for giving me and my
independence that I can live my own life and do
my own supermarket shop and cook my own food. And

(01:00:30):
so I just like to kind of, you know, say
thank you to the government for actually doing something right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Wow, that's probably that's probably a first, I think on
news talks.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
I could laugh or I could cry. I could laugh
or I could cry. But you know, the government has
done some good things for the disability community. They've got
a lot more to work on. Like come on, let's
not lie. But you know, well, uh, you know, guys,
you work in the field, and if you ever get

(01:01:14):
a chance in the future to you know, be a
journalist and examine a Prime minister in the future on
a journalist subject, take the advice and be strong, be willing,
be strong. And you know, I'm just I'm thankful that

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the government has supported me and my family did not
have to. And I think a lot of disabled people
feel like that. I'm so proud to be disabled. I
don't want my family supporting me, but I'm proud that
the government gave me hope and safe into the community
and I can be independent. And that's the rights that

(01:01:57):
we all fought for in nineteen sixty nine. And I'm
grateful for our New Zealand government that in nineteen sixty
nine they brought the law out. The disabled community are
so proud of the government, and I feel like, come on, guys,
you're doing a great thing. If you can live independently,

(01:02:19):
you've achieved. And that's my Christmas message to myself and
my friends in the disabled community. You have achieved. If
you have achieved it, you've achieved it, and you don't
have to rely on anybody else, then you're a success.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Can I just say to you that it's so refreshing
to hear somebody say something in support of Guy Angora.
I also want to mention say this to you. One
of my best friends actually, as it was in charge

(01:03:03):
of the legal team that is just on the case
in the Supreme Court on behalf of two families with
disabilities that is going to hold the Ministry of Health
to account. So yes, I'm with you one hundred and

(01:03:29):
I admire you for your approach to life. So thank
you very much for calling.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Go well, Matthew, and a very merry Christmas and happy
New Year from all of us here at Another's club.
Let's keep going. Actually I'll take another call now, Harvey,
good morning to you.

Speaker 15 (01:03:48):
Oh, good morning, good morning, great ones. Martha and Luther
King Junior said darkness cannot drive out darkness.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
Only light can do that.

Speaker 15 (01:04:02):
Hatred cannot drive out hatred. Only love can do that.
And the YouTube show on these shows every Sunday night,
sometimes I just listen, or sometimes I fall asleep, and
you know, that's just part of being human. And I
just like to think. The first person I like to

(01:04:24):
think is myself because without without the knowledge that I
have on hand and the work I've done, I'm seventy
three years old. I live, I've got a roof over
my head. No I haven't. I've got a building over
my head. I live under a church and the people
that I need to think and this, this is a myriad.

(01:04:47):
I don't want to name any of them because I've
probably missed somebody out. But you see, my rock is
our old and I know that without my beliefs, I
don't have to force it on anybody else. My family,
my loved ones, the mentors and teachers I've had, and

(01:05:07):
all children that I've sort of helped you life as
a as a can you take your day out of
school volunteering for a whole lot of organizations And I'm
starting to slow down and weave it now, but I
can still. You know, there's that saying, he who has
is to hear let him here. So that's why you

(01:05:31):
talk about show people are just great. I'm about to
go to bed because I've got a doctor's appointment today.
Well you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Guys. We want to we want to thank you and
and Harvey. It's clear you're you're a good person and
your letter and you continue to lead a wonderful life
driven by purpose and in your case, your faith. So
thank you for calling.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Much appreciative and a merry Christmas and a happy New
Year to your Harvey. Let's go straight back to the lines, kneel,
A good morning to.

Speaker 11 (01:06:04):
You God, willing to you, marry Christmas to all listenance
and yourself and put it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 11 (01:06:12):
I want to thank God for the other Neil that spoke,
because we're part of a Ziby family, and I've been
aware for some months now that somebody in that fam
he has been praying for me. So I thank God,
and I thank God, especially for Neil, that he has
been praying for me. As you would recall, my baggage

(01:06:37):
if you had to put it that way, was eighteen
suicides of people, acquaintances, friends or family. Yes, so for me,
you know, to get on track and be keeping on track.
That's I know. It's not me doing it because I'm

(01:06:58):
very reliant. I'm not actually a very independent person in law.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
I'm quite reliant.

Speaker 11 (01:07:02):
As soon I'm seventy four, I suppose I should be
more independent thinking I just can't see to manage it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Well, you're doing pretty good right now.

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
I think you appreciate that I have any complements all day.
So it's turning out going to be a merry Christmas, obviously.
You know, when you're seventy four, you don't actually expect
the thing. You come rushing around and tune out.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:07:31):
I'm so proud of my great nephew and great niece
because they've both achieved the awards academically recently in sports
as well, and one of them wants to be a
graphic designer. Gether one wants to be a food technologist.
So this is a feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I'm in paddle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
That's outstanding, isn't it?

Speaker 10 (01:07:54):
Because they're great?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Yeah, and there our future, and you know, you're proud
of them.

Speaker 11 (01:08:04):
I'm grateful to them, very grateful to them because they
are showing the way that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
And I always say this about our young people is
that often often you may hear, you know, people give
them a hard time and say that they're they're on
the phones too much, or they're playing too many of
the video games, you know, all that sort of stuff.
And yet I've got to tell you, you know, recently, just
just in both you know, work, in my personal life,

(01:08:33):
I've had you know, some of my son's friends around
and they're all sort of, you know, just about nineteen now.
And I'll tell you what, man, the kids are great.
They're really clued on that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Okay, that they might still not quite be you know, mature,
but they're only nineteen. Give them a break. But I'll
tell you what, man, they're switched on and they're talking
about big ideas, and I think they're going to be awesome.

Speaker 11 (01:08:56):
Yeah, there's a friend of mine and his son plays
in a rock band. He also does sport. He google's
funny looking aircraft for me for so many craft nut
quite not and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Oh you're on the right show.

Speaker 11 (01:09:13):
Then yeah, yeah, I'm definitely and.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
I know that for a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
And then what you're saying, he does drawings for.

Speaker 11 (01:09:24):
You, He does doodles on the computer, all these weird
looking planes. He comes across and shows them to me,
and it's just amazing. And you know, he just started
Wick leaving school, started Wick. No real dreams, universe, he
or anything. But he's putting a good things and Wick

(01:09:44):
he eats himself into it. He knew how to take
care of himself, you know. And we had above you
at the beach one day and his mother was with us,
and he suddenly turned up on his motorcycle and came
over to talk to us, and we were going the
firstbee around and we all just so liked him. He's

(01:10:05):
so personality set a personality. I just have amazing look
at the future of this. You know, people say, oh,
they're doing it room, these kids are showing the way
they're lighting up the face.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Absolutely agree, Neil, and I think you know, your perspective.
Tonight has coming at a really great time because that's
what we're trying to talk about. And I think if
we're actually feeling any kind of anxiety around some of
the news that we're hearing out about Bondo Beach, tonight,
I get really heartened when I think about the young
people coming through because I actually think that they've got

(01:10:44):
it sorted and I think they're going to do well.

Speaker 9 (01:10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:10:47):
Well, it's just funny, you know, because when I woke
up this morning, I was suddenly very frightened for some
reason after hearing the news break. I got this tight
band right across my chest, which I had to have
a couple of cups of tea to get real in
some ice cubes to suck on. But you know, it's

(01:11:09):
just too fun to start, isn't that. Really.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
It's very close to home, and there'll be a lot
a lot of people affected that will have connections to
New Zealand, I have no doubt. But in the meantime,
you know, we've got to think about how we can
look after each other. And I think tonight this this
audience that the call is the Texters, I think you've
been doing absolutely fantastic and to everyone who's listening and

(01:11:32):
has no intention of calling in or or texting. And
I hope that it's been of some comfort here and
just remind ourselves of all the great people that we
have and all the things that we have to look
forward to.

Speaker 11 (01:11:46):
Neil.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Merry Christmas to you, mate, and a happy new Year.

Speaker 11 (01:11:50):
I'm grateful to ZB, massively grateful to ZB has been
I've made fire hundred and fifty six. My contribution has
fire hundred and fifty six calls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Wow, talk back, well, thank you, Neil. The people like you.
We need you on talk back because otherwise it'd just
been me talking round and round in circles with Boris
and car. I don't think anyone wants that. All Right,
you go well, Neil. We look forward to talking to
you in.

Speaker 13 (01:12:18):
The new year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
All right, thank you, No, thank you. Five hundred and
fifty six calls. That's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
It's a very good effort, actually, Boris, it's a hell
of an effort.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I don't know if I've ever called anybody five hundred
and fifty six times.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Yes, well, neither have I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah. Wow, I feel quite special actually that we've managed
to listen that much from nearly. That's the hell of
a contribution, and so you should. This is, you know,
a very sad and tragic night on so many levels.
But one of the reasons that I'm also sad is
that in about twelve minutes time, we've got to say
goodbye to you guys for twenty twenty five. And it

(01:12:58):
is It is always a bit of a bit of
sweet one. I won't lie. I do enjoy having a
few Sunday nights off to be able to sort of
give full night's sleep, but I do miss you guys
when we have the break. It's always something I look
forward to coming back to. And the good news is,
if you didn't know, we are back for twenty twenty

(01:13:18):
six thanks to the support here from News Talks, he'd
be as well as New Zealand on air and we
are looking forward to being back. When's our first show back,
Boris I should know this?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Eighteenth or nineteenth of January?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Yeah, eighteenth, So yep, we get four weeks off back
on the eighteenth of jan I'll be back. Kyle still
won't be back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Some guys get all the breaks, mate, so hell of
a journey anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
So I will be back on the eighteenth. You'll be
back on the nineteenth. Yeah, but in the meantime and
so yeah, I literally just got that text saying hello
Merry Christmas to a the Nuther's Club. Will you be
on air over Christmas and New Year's No, we won't. However,
the Facebook page will still be active and the annual
Nutters Club Christmas video will go up around out the

(01:14:08):
twenty third of December. So we look forward to seeing
you guys, and we'll be around online. So it flick
us a message if you've got any questions over the break, well,
we're still keeping an eye on that. Let's go back
to the lines. Kushler, good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
I've been willing to you too. Well, okay, just the
quick summary of the day is happenings. I think I
heard on the radio first thing this morning that there
was a shooting over the United States as well, But
then then we have the one in Sydney, and it's
getting pretty awful. I mean, people are just sort of rendombly.
Shouldn't be able to know in apparent reason, or maybe

(01:14:44):
there is a reason behind it, but Enby won't help anything.
You know, if you're jealous because other people seem to
be enjoying themselves or have something out I love that
you're going to have. It's not a good thing to have.
But of course there's anything else you'd like to add
to that what I've said, But.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
No, no, really, and that was why tonight I wanted to,
you know, take the time to eat, actually shift their
attention somewhat, to remind ourselves that, yes, these things happen,
and they are They're incredibly tragic, and I don't want
to take anything away from that. However, when we actually
pause for a moment, we remember that ninety five percent

(01:15:24):
plus of the world is filled with amazingly kind, good,
generous people, and it's it's always important for us to
keep that insight that you know, when these things happen,
they are the vast minority of people who do it exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
And of course I also had the programs and I
don't I didn't need to get on but this and
his tenser, Yeah, and the kind of thing that was
good that he has sort of recovered to the best
of visibility, that I understand the pain, and that he's
free of the pain hopefully now for now, you know, well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
He's here, I'll ask him. I mean are you free
of the pain.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Boris, I'm free of any pain that's the result of
my cancer diagnosis, in my cancer treatment, I have a
lot of other aches and pains as a result of
sports injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Yes, Because if people didn't know, you used to be
a highly competitive surf life saver, right, Well, I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Was involved in several sports. Surf life saving was one
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Well that's the one that got you to internationals, didn't,
wasn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I did represent New Zealand, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
So I was kind of thinking in terms of, you know,
we'll start at the top and work our way down.
So yeah, yeah, So you know you sustained it and
you did a bit of rugby, but a league.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
A bit of rugby, a bit of boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Oh that's right. If you don't know, Boris went and
did was it? Three rounds?

Speaker 9 (01:16:59):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Three rounds with Timodow Morrison about twenty twelve on the
Joseph Parker undercart. It's a Barker undercut. As I remember,
it was quite a surprising fight, and so much as
no one really expected you to come out and be
swinging as much as you did, and I think even
Timurru got a bit worried about you at one point.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Well he did back up saying sorry Boris, Sorry Boris
after he hit me and I didn't go down.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Yeah, and that was when you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
And I must say, I am grateful for the opportunity
to have a fight in front of thousands of people,
because I've always said, if you're going to do something
like that, you might as well do it in front
of a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
It was an interesting spectacle to watch, it was, and
you survived it. But hey, look either way, you've survived,
you've survived Jake the Mass, and you've survived cancer. There's
not many people I think you can say that that's true,
right course, thank you so much for your call and
a merry Christmas, Happy New Year. Now let's go to
a well known caller to us here on the Nutters Club. David.

(01:18:12):
Good morning to.

Speaker 13 (01:18:13):
You him, Mary, Christmas, Hamish and and Boris. Thank you
last week. Yes, that's great. I heard last week your
show and the fight that Boris has had with cancer
and so far good, very good success. So even though

(01:18:35):
it's still ahead and miss sort of thing that he's
over it now, but you know, just stay stay well
and everything Boris, You're a really good struggler and I
really miss seeing you from years ago, and I remember
you still and you're a powerful, good part of the

(01:18:55):
Nudders Club and a powerful man, and you're really good.
Now listen, condolences to all the victims and the families
and the primes of all the people in BONDI it's terrible.
Heard some of it on two SM after I heard
the news I'm on your show that I just turned
into two SM Sydney in Newcastle and heard it all.

(01:19:19):
And also I want to think, I want to thank you,
you know, for everything, but my mother who's eighty six,
for everything, and jan and au Janice and Bob who's
seventy three. They are a very very important part of
my life. And Bob lives in Parmerson North now, but

(01:19:41):
I when I go down to White Poker Ol we go.
I've visited him twice so far while I've been in
White Poker and Parmason or from White Poker Ol. And
he's a really amazing guy. And he's he's had bowl
cancer as well, and it even turned to bone cancer
and recently it got into his adrenalinees glans.

Speaker 12 (01:20:02):
But he.

Speaker 13 (01:20:04):
Went on a drug called I can't remember it. It's
called it's to check. I can't know. It's one of
those drugs that help help the drugs. The drugs work,
and yeah, my memory is stading on me. Yeah, contrud
to contruder truer. Yeah, do you know that one bus? Yes,

(01:20:27):
you see, and that that actually helped work and he
had to go back home contruded when it went into
his dream. And and because the normal cancer drugs that
the government gives work, but they don't always work on
every one. So sometimes yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
But David, well you because we're going to have to
go shortly, I want to say. I want to say
to you that you're you know, despite all your all
your troubles and your challenges, you're a good person. And
well we try and be so I know you do, and.

Speaker 13 (01:21:05):
Not always not always that well, but I still try.
I'm very trying as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
But you know that you know, and you try your best,
and thank you just for being you. All right.

Speaker 13 (01:21:18):
I'll still try and be me, and I'll still think
of other people. But I am sometimes very selfish and
I don't want to be like that. I try and
change every time I go. Of course, I try to
go back in the right direction. Okay, thanks for us,
and good luck with everything and such you hey, Mash,
and Merry Christmas twenty twenty five, and happy twenty twenty

(01:21:38):
six and for everyone, and hope the Natis Club takes
off next year really really good in the new year. Okay,
thank you after your break.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Okay, bye, go well, go well, Merry Christmas and a
happy new Year from all of us. And if you
don't know, if you don't know and you're listening to
this tonight, that's someone I'm really grateful for on the show.
David has been a regular caller to this show since
we began back in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Yes, he's one of the originals.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
And I'll tell you what, very very grateful for that
man for continuing to trust us to share his stories,
along with all the many people who came after him.
But David was one of the first callers we ever had,
and we still value him to this day, and we
value you all, you guys, And so at this point,

(01:22:29):
it's a bit of a sad one to have to
end on tonight, but I'm grateful for all of you,
all of your calls, all of your texts. Thank you
so much. For being part of this, our Nutter's Club
and on behalf of everyone here. We wish you all
a very safe Christmas and New Year, and we look
forward to seeing all of you in twenty twenty six. Boris,

(01:22:52):
thank you for everything that you do for the show,
and thank you Hamish, and thank you very much to
News Talk Seed B and to New Zealand on air.
That's it for Nutter's Club for twenty twenty five. Thank
you to all our callers and Texters who supported each
other during a challenging evening. How big thanks to our
producer Boris Sokratov for all his work this year as well.

(01:23:14):
Take care, have a merry Christmas and a happy New Year,
Safe travels wherever you find yourself, and we look forward
to being back on air with you in January twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
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