September 1, 2025 • 11 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) What's a Few Million Between Friends?/If You're Good, You'll Survive/Putting Nurse Pay Through the Crusher/Don't Blow Your Vote/Communicating with Cornwall
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay then, and welcome to the re ramp for Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
All the best that's from the mic casting breakfast on
Newstalks it'd be and a sillier package. I'm glen Hand today.
And hospital he's doing all right. And even if they
say they aren't. Nurses are getting paid heaps, even if
they say they aren't. And there's a by election going on,
even if the voters don't seem to think there is one.
(00:49):
Oh and why Cornwall.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Park posed before any of that.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Hey, foreign buyers come in, buy my house for five
million bucks. And if you spend another five million bucks,
cat works.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Which are so welcoming so that there always people with
ten million.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Bucks to wash around the pace.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Wow, we got there, lasted and we I mean, if
you're a Golden visa holder, that's a person who puts
five or ten million into the country, you can buy
a house. The idea that we expected you to put
that sort of money into a country but then rent
what was and is absurd. Not to get into the
weeds too deeply. The Golden Bees were as different to
the one hundred and eighty three days rule the Golden Bees.
It means you can invest but not be here for
(01:33):
one hundred and eighty three days, but now means you
do qualify for a five million dollar plus home. None
of this is complex. None of this needed to be
as hard as it turned out to be. You will
note from the Winston Peters comments he has preserved his
ongoing dislike for the so called foreigners coming here and
snapping up the countryside and locking the rest of us
out of the market, none of which happened, of course,
but the xenophobic streak runs deep in the party clearly.
(01:56):
But if you go back to National's original idea of
two million dollars, a lot of water has gone under
that bridge, a lot of banging of heads has clearly happened,
and some people have had to be drag kicking and
screaming to what I would have thought was a fairly
obvious finish line. The weird thing for me about Peter's
is this is the same bloke who's out in the
world pleading with said world to come and invest and
come and do business. We are open. He's trying, on
(02:17):
one hand, to desperately rectify the damage of the Labour
government covid era, while at the same time doing the
old New Zealand first cake and eat at two trick.
Please come, please bring your money. But oh, given you
a foreigner, can you airbnb? I mean it's nonsense. At
five million, it changes little or nothing for you and me.
It's a tiny portion of homes. It's a couple of
million pounds at three million American bucks. For some global
(02:39):
citizens it's pocket change. But it all helps a man,
do we need help? The worry is the difficulty in
getting here easy obvious decisions should not be hard, they
should be quick and slick. But it all helps. It
was a good day for New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Think it is weird that the five million was the cutoff.
Isn't that not four million or three million?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Is this heaeds of those houses around we're all buying
and selling that we don't on foreign buyers buying and
selling as well.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Eh the rewrap?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Okay, okay, Now when those foreigners get here at set
up sharp perl one some hospitality, which is going to
be a huge relief for all those hospitality businesses that
are feeling the strain right now, although some might.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Not be, we've all seen it. I mean I've seen
it a good number of times myself personally the cafe.
We all know the story of the cafe that was
exemplary right sold, new owner changes the menu, brings in
a few kids to serve, and wonders why six months
later they're out of business as the HOSPO people yet
again told their tale of woe. Do not get me wrong.
I mean times have been tight, yes, and many an
(03:43):
outlet has struggled.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
We know that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But as the new numbers got rolled out for the
obligatory headline that you might have seen, it's probably time,
I think, to get a little bit honest about a
sector that at times is its own worst enemy. So
the numbers. In the past twelve months, two thy five
hundred and sixty four HOSPO outlets have closed. That's an
increase of nineteen percent as a stat looks miserable, but
(04:06):
ask yourself, this are all the cafes on no so
as it possible, we were over cafe. As part of
the problem with HOSPO the fact anyone can join. You
simply write a check, put on an apron, and you're
in the hospow game do you know what you're doing?
Does anyone ask these questions? Do you know what you're doing?
Are you interested in excelling or are you looking for
an easy job and an easy job for your family?
(04:27):
Are you providing something new or better or different or
just adding to the collection of people who pedal paninis
and bowls of cappuccino. We talk a lot about the
two step or two stage economy. Normally it's rural versus urban,
Auckland versus Queenstone. But there's another two step economy, the
people who are good and the people who aren't. Now
this doesn't just apply to HOSPO, of course, but HOSPO
(04:47):
is the standout example because it's one of those sectors
where one anyone can join, and two you can be
anything from exceptional, too useless, and a lot of things
in between. See in nineteen ninety is thinking about this
the other day. In ninety ninety, Paul Keating, then Australian Treasurer,
famously said, this is the recession we had to have.
So Australia had not known a recession. That always been
the so called lucky country. But part of the argument
(05:09):
was a recession cleans out the hopeless. It tidy is
an economy up. The strong survive because they hustle theirs
the week with it, and they die, and out of
that renewal starts something afresh. A lot of people liquidating
only tells you a fraction of the story, and the
story is supposed to make you feel bad. Of course
it shouldn't, because it's life. If you are good and
determined and work hard in hospital or anywhere else, you'll
(05:33):
be fine. If you're really determined, you'll be more than fine.
You see.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
If you're setting up a father or a restaurant or
a cafe, just make sure you're the best one in.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Town and you'll be fine. It's easy a rewrap. Right now,
let's get stuck into the nurses.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I don't mean that let's get stuck in to the nurses.
I mean, let's get stuck into the issue of nurses.
And they're striking and their pay and you.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Very exciting day to day. I don't know if you're wear,
but the nurses are on strike again for a couple
of days to day and Thursday. No one loves industrial
election more than I do, and so it's very exciting
that we're back on the packet line with fresh science
and complaining about our lot. Not that we don't have
sympathy for the nurses, of course, because we do. But
if you're want of the people who was in a
line for a bit of surgery today, thirteen thousand surgeries
(06:19):
and appointments have been adjusted today, just the thirteen thousand,
so there's not much disruption. Average salary, by the way,
for a registered nurse is now over one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars and I have more numbers on
that too, So really, should you be striking for more
money in a country that has no money when you're
already earning one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Wow, don't forget it.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
They're going out into a housing market where they're competing
with burgers who are prepared to pay five million dollars
for my house.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So it's tricky. It's you know, one hundred and twenty
five thousand is and what it used to be?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
All rewrap?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
How about the big Buyoactah that's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Come on, But yes there is Democracy's alive. And while
in Tamakim Macaro I can tell you with the by election,
forty four thousand people in row and what really is
a really interesting race. I mean normally by elections are
a bit ho hum, but this is interesting given the background.
Heneray got robbed. I mean, I don't literally mean robbed.
A serious broad office will work that out in the
(07:19):
full course of time. But it was what forty two votes.
It was a tight race, and there's a lot of
question marks around it, and so we're back into it.
So forty four thousand people enrolled as of the weekend.
How many people do you reckon voted have voted? Of
your forty four thousand, two, seven hundred and eighty nine,
so next to no one's interested. Biggest day Saturday. Of
course everyone's available to vote on Saturday, so a full
(07:42):
seven hundred and fifty one people turned up. If you
want to compare it to the last by election that
was Port Wykatto a couple of years ago, fifty two
thousand were enrolled and in the seven days of voting
that that had instead of the twenty seven hundred and
eighty nine that they've got in Tammickimacaro, they had eighty
one hundred and sixty five. So even at the best
of times, there's not that much interest. But in this
particular race, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Maybe it was affected by the wind.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh I forgotten nold on what was Wendy days Sunday,
wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, so Saturday seven fifty one. They got in because
they knew the wind was coming, because everybody knows you
can't vote when it's windy.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Do you want you don't want your votes blowing away?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's for sure, red warning.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Oh imagine it though, imagine it. It feels like a
sort of a kid's book that writes itself. You're just
about to stick your postal vote in the mailbox and
a gust of wind comes along and your vote blows away.
You'd probably call it something like the vote that blew Away.
(08:44):
The re wrap was Cornwall Park worried that it was
going to blow away?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Kiora news team.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
This is.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
This is from the Cornwall Park communications team. Now, first,
Cornwall Park's in Auckland. If you're listening around the rest
of the country, you want to laugh at Auckland for
a moment. This is to do with the wind on Sunday.
The most obviously concerning part about this is a park
has a communications team, so and you wonder whether there
are too many bureaucrats.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
How do you normally communicate with a park being mister
clever closed.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And saying you just talked to the park and the
park talks back to you. Could you please correct host
Mike Hoskins' commentary regarding the closure of Cornwall Park. It
was not closed on Saturday. Now, the important point about that,
not only does a park have a communications team, I
never said it was closed on Saturday, So first fact
completely wrong. We issued the media advisory on Saturday, which
(09:40):
is exactly what I said. I said, you said you
were going to close the park the day before the
wind actually came. That's what I said on the program yesterday.
Cornwall Park was closed from one pm Sunday afternoon. Reopened
this morning at the usual time as noted the health
and safety of the public and our staff as our priority. Clearly,
it was concerning to hear your host being cavalier about
health and safety. Sorry, license.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Serial, that's what they say, they say, Hosking. He might
be haggard, but at least he's cavalier.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So cavalier in all fairness.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I feel like parks are the one place you do
want to go when it's windy, take a kite, fly
a kite, you know, stand on a hill, lean into
the wind.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
We're not We're just not doing that anymore. Okay, that's
said I. Yeah, we have to change the end of
which one is it Mary Poppins, isn't it with a
let's go fly a kite? No? No, no, you do.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That's somebody's I am I am Gleen Hat.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
That was the rewrap and we'll do it here again
tomorrow as long as it's not going.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
For more from news Talk, said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay then, and welcome to the re ramp for Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
All the best that's from the mic casting breakfast on
Newstalks it'd be and a sillier package. I'm glen Hand today.
And hospital he's doing all right. And even if they
say they aren't. Nurses are getting paid heaps, even if
they say they aren't. And there's a by election going on,
even if the voters don't seem to think there is one.
(00:49):
Oh and why Cornwall.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Park posed before any of that.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Hey, foreign buyers come in, buy my house for five
million bucks. And if you spend another five million bucks,
cat works.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Which are so welcoming so that there always people with
ten million.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Bucks to wash around the pace.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Wow, we got there, lasted and we I mean, if
you're a Golden visa holder, that's a person who puts
five or ten million into the country, you can buy
a house. The idea that we expected you to put
that sort of money into a country but then rent
what was and is absurd. Not to get into the
weeds too deeply. The Golden Bees were as different to
the one hundred and eighty three days rule the Golden Bees.
It means you can invest but not be here for
(01:33):
one hundred and eighty three days, but now means you
do qualify for a five million dollar plus home. None
of this is complex. None of this needed to be
as hard as it turned out to be. You will
note from the Winston Peters comments he has preserved his
ongoing dislike for the so called foreigners coming here and
snapping up the countryside and locking the rest of us
out of the market, none of which happened, of course,
but the xenophobic streak runs deep in the party clearly.
(01:56):
But if you go back to National's original idea of
two million dollars, a lot of water has gone under
that bridge, a lot of banging of heads has clearly happened,
and some people have had to be drag kicking and
screaming to what I would have thought was a fairly
obvious finish line. The weird thing for me about Peter's
is this is the same bloke who's out in the
world pleading with said world to come and invest and
come and do business. We are open. He's trying, on
(02:17):
one hand, to desperately rectify the damage of the Labour
government covid era, while at the same time doing the
old New Zealand first cake and eat at two trick.
Please come, please bring your money. But oh, given you
a foreigner, can you airbnb? I mean it's nonsense. At
five million, it changes little or nothing for you and me.
It's a tiny portion of homes. It's a couple of
million pounds at three million American bucks. For some global
(02:39):
citizens it's pocket change. But it all helps a man,
do we need help? The worry is the difficulty in
getting here easy obvious decisions should not be hard, they
should be quick and slick. But it all helps. It
was a good day for New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Think it is weird that the five million was the cutoff.
Isn't that not four million or three million?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Is this heaeds of those houses around we're all buying
and selling that we don't on foreign buyers buying and
selling as well.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Eh the rewrap?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Okay, okay, Now when those foreigners get here at set
up sharp perl one some hospitality, which is going to
be a huge relief for all those hospitality businesses that
are feeling the strain right now, although some might.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Not be, we've all seen it. I mean I've seen
it a good number of times myself personally the cafe.
We all know the story of the cafe that was
exemplary right sold, new owner changes the menu, brings in
a few kids to serve, and wonders why six months
later they're out of business as the HOSPO people yet
again told their tale of woe. Do not get me wrong.
I mean times have been tight, yes, and many an
(03:43):
outlet has struggled.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
We know that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But as the new numbers got rolled out for the
obligatory headline that you might have seen, it's probably time,
I think, to get a little bit honest about a
sector that at times is its own worst enemy. So
the numbers. In the past twelve months, two thy five
hundred and sixty four HOSPO outlets have closed. That's an
increase of nineteen percent as a stat looks miserable, but
(04:06):
ask yourself, this are all the cafes on no so
as it possible, we were over cafe. As part of
the problem with HOSPO the fact anyone can join. You
simply write a check, put on an apron, and you're
in the hospow game do you know what you're doing?
Does anyone ask these questions? Do you know what you're doing?
Are you interested in excelling or are you looking for
an easy job and an easy job for your family?
(04:27):
Are you providing something new or better or different or
just adding to the collection of people who pedal paninis
and bowls of cappuccino. We talk a lot about the
two step or two stage economy. Normally it's rural versus urban,
Auckland versus Queenstone. But there's another two step economy, the
people who are good and the people who aren't. Now
this doesn't just apply to HOSPO, of course, but HOSPO
(04:47):
is the standout example because it's one of those sectors
where one anyone can join, and two you can be
anything from exceptional, too useless, and a lot of things
in between. See in nineteen ninety is thinking about this
the other day. In ninety ninety, Paul Keating, then Australian Treasurer,
famously said, this is the recession we had to have.
So Australia had not known a recession. That always been
the so called lucky country. But part of the argument
(05:09):
was a recession cleans out the hopeless. It tidy is
an economy up. The strong survive because they hustle theirs
the week with it, and they die, and out of
that renewal starts something afresh. A lot of people liquidating
only tells you a fraction of the story, and the
story is supposed to make you feel bad. Of course
it shouldn't, because it's life. If you are good and
determined and work hard in hospital or anywhere else, you'll
(05:33):
be fine. If you're really determined, you'll be more than fine.
You see.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
If you're setting up a father or a restaurant or
a cafe, just make sure you're the best one in.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Town and you'll be fine. It's easy a rewrap. Right now,
let's get stuck into the nurses.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I don't mean that let's get stuck in to the nurses.
I mean, let's get stuck into the issue of nurses.
And they're striking and their pay and you.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Very exciting day to day. I don't know if you're wear,
but the nurses are on strike again for a couple
of days to day and Thursday. No one loves industrial
election more than I do, and so it's very exciting
that we're back on the packet line with fresh science
and complaining about our lot. Not that we don't have
sympathy for the nurses, of course, because we do. But
if you're want of the people who was in a
line for a bit of surgery today, thirteen thousand surgeries
(06:19):
and appointments have been adjusted today, just the thirteen thousand,
so there's not much disruption. Average salary, by the way,
for a registered nurse is now over one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars and I have more numbers on
that too, So really, should you be striking for more
money in a country that has no money when you're
already earning one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Wow, don't forget it.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
They're going out into a housing market where they're competing
with burgers who are prepared to pay five million dollars
for my house.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So it's tricky. It's you know, one hundred and twenty
five thousand is and what it used to be?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
All rewrap?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
How about the big Buyoactah that's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Come on, But yes there is Democracy's alive. And while
in Tamakim Macaro I can tell you with the by election,
forty four thousand people in row and what really is
a really interesting race. I mean normally by elections are
a bit ho hum, but this is interesting given the background.
Heneray got robbed. I mean, I don't literally mean robbed.
A serious broad office will work that out in the
(07:19):
full course of time. But it was what forty two votes.
It was a tight race, and there's a lot of
question marks around it, and so we're back into it.
So forty four thousand people enrolled as of the weekend.
How many people do you reckon voted have voted? Of
your forty four thousand, two, seven hundred and eighty nine,
so next to no one's interested. Biggest day Saturday. Of
course everyone's available to vote on Saturday, so a full
(07:42):
seven hundred and fifty one people turned up. If you
want to compare it to the last by election that
was Port Wykatto a couple of years ago, fifty two
thousand were enrolled and in the seven days of voting
that that had instead of the twenty seven hundred and
eighty nine that they've got in Tammickimacaro, they had eighty
one hundred and sixty five. So even at the best
of times, there's not that much interest. But in this
particular race, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Maybe it was affected by the wind.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh I forgotten nold on what was Wendy days Sunday,
wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, so Saturday seven fifty one. They got in because
they knew the wind was coming, because everybody knows you
can't vote when it's windy.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Do you want you don't want your votes blowing away?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's for sure, red warning.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Oh imagine it though, imagine it. It feels like a
sort of a kid's book that writes itself. You're just
about to stick your postal vote in the mailbox and
a gust of wind comes along and your vote blows away.
You'd probably call it something like the vote that blew Away.
(08:44):
The re wrap was Cornwall Park worried that it was
going to blow away?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Kiora news team.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
This is.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
This is from the Cornwall Park communications team. Now, first,
Cornwall Park's in Auckland. If you're listening around the rest
of the country, you want to laugh at Auckland for
a moment. This is to do with the wind on Sunday.
The most obviously concerning part about this is a park
has a communications team, so and you wonder whether there
are too many bureaucrats.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
How do you normally communicate with a park being mister
clever closed.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And saying you just talked to the park and the
park talks back to you. Could you please correct host
Mike Hoskins' commentary regarding the closure of Cornwall Park. It
was not closed on Saturday. Now, the important point about that,
not only does a park have a communications team, I
never said it was closed on Saturday, So first fact
completely wrong. We issued the media advisory on Saturday, which
(09:40):
is exactly what I said. I said, you said you
were going to close the park the day before the
wind actually came. That's what I said on the program yesterday.
Cornwall Park was closed from one pm Sunday afternoon. Reopened
this morning at the usual time as noted the health
and safety of the public and our staff as our priority. Clearly,
it was concerning to hear your host being cavalier about
health and safety. Sorry, license.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Serial, that's what they say, they say, Hosking. He might
be haggard, but at least he's cavalier.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So cavalier in all fairness.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I feel like parks are the one place you do
want to go when it's windy, take a kite, fly
a kite, you know, stand on a hill, lean into
the wind.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
We're not We're just not doing that anymore. Okay, that's
said I. Yeah, we have to change the end of
which one is it Mary Poppins, isn't it with a
let's go fly a kite? No? No, no, you do.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That's somebody's I am I am Gleen Hat.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
That was the rewrap and we'll do it here again
tomorrow as long as it's not going.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
For more from news Talk, said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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