December 11, 2025 • 10 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Robot Apocalypse Update/No Prisoners In the Streaming Wars/No Neighbours Either/Chocolate That's Not Chocolate/Enough of the Stupid Videos Already
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News talks'd be follow
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rep there and welcome to the rewrap for Friday. All
the best that's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast starring here
the dooper c Allen on News Talks. He'd be in
a sillier package. I'm Glen Hart, and today the streaming
war was raging in the States. It's Netflix versus Warner
Brothers The Neighbors. That's finished in the UK, even though
(00:49):
I thought it was already finished. Chocolate is so expensive
you can't have the real stuff anymore. And is it
time that we said goodbye to the New Zealand safety videos?
Surprise answer, Yes definitely. But versed up our AI overlords
have finally made They are Times Person of the Year.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Time magazine is just named its person of the Year
for twenty twenty five this morning, and it's not a
single person. It is the architects of AI. The magazine says,
no one has had as great an impact this year
than the people who designed, imagined and built AI. This
was the year the mag says that we stopped talking
about how clunky AI is and instead started sprinting to
deploy it as fast as possible, and now quote the
(01:32):
risk averse are no longer in the driver's seat, which
is probably true. But I'll tell you what, the risk
of verse is still a really big proportion of us,
aren't They mean? I think there are broadly three categories
of people when it comes to AI. You've got the
ones using it. You've got the ones apathetic about it
and waiting to be convinced that they actually need it.
And then you've got the ones who are terrified of it.
And the terrified ones are the ones who fascinate me.
(01:53):
They are the unions convinced that AI are going to
take the jobs. They are the forty seven percent of
kiwis who don't trust companies to use AI ethically. They're
the rule lovers who want the government to set up
more rules to protect us from AI. They're the artists
and the musicians who are pretending that AI can be
stopped for learning or what they call stealing their ideas.
The other people complaining that AI photos and AI videos
(02:13):
and AI songs are somehow evil and misleading. Resisting AI
is not a strategy. AI is happening, and it's not
going to go away resisting It feels a little bit
like a repeat of the resistance towards the computer thirty
forty years ago, which even Time magazine called a fad
back then. And then look where the computers are now.
The way to deal with AI is to accept that
(02:34):
it is going to fundamentally change everything and then figure
out how to make it work for you. And the
case in point today is Disney giving open AI permission
to use its characters like the Star Wars characters to
make videos. Like Mark Cuban said on the show yesterday,
AI is going to be big, and we actually have
no idea how big yet.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yes, So there you go. Robots are people too, Apparently
they can be person of the person of the air.
Looks like the robot Apocalypse as well and truly under way.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So rerap right.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So streaming, if we end up with one mega streamer,
does anybody went out of that depends on who else
might be the player in the market. Otherwise, I'll tell
you what.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
If there's one thing that's becoming apparent watching the battle
between Netflix and Paramount Buy Warner Brothers, it's that in
the end it might actually be Donald Trump who picks
the winner. Here, if you had to say who he
would choose when he does pick the winner, you'd have
to lean towards Paramount over Netflix. This is the one
with the hostile offer because Paramount's CEO is David Allison,
the son of Trump's mate Larry Allison. And you'd have
(03:39):
to imagine it's not only appealing to Trump to look
after his mates, which he does, but also, and maybe
more so, to have CNN, which he hates, currently owned
by Warner Brothers and therefore in the hands of an
ally the Netflix alternative he won't like as much. It's
that CNN is sold off to someone else as yet unspecified,
and then tipping the scales further for Paramount, as Jared Kushner,
(03:59):
Trump's son in law, helping Paramount with the steal. So
if I was putting money on it, I'd say, these
are the guys who are going to take it out.
But what's becoming increasingly clear is that anyone who was
worried that the biggest risk of a second Donald Trump
administration was him doing something wacky like introducing fascism to
the US was way off. It's not fascism that's the problem.
It's cronyism. Even the ukra deal Ukraine deal that he's
(04:20):
reportedly pitching stands to benefit apparently his friends. Financially, the
dealings with the Middle East that he's got going on
benefit him and his family. Business people have clearly realized
they need to suck up to him to get ahead.
When we had the US businessman and generally top character,
Mark Cuban on the show yesterday, normally Mark has a
strong case of TDS, but right now he needs Trump
to give him a concession on the pharmaceutical fees so
(04:41):
that he can start manufacturing in the US, and so
he's relatively quiet on the Trump criticism. You don't need
me to tell you how problematic it is for a
national leader to make political calls based on how much
money they're going to get from it. Worse though, is
if the behavior sticks around after that politician is gone.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I mean, we've got you know, Trump Crepto, We've got
Trump credit card, Trump Bibles, Trump Stakes. For that matter,
we may as well have Trump TV as well, don't
you think so?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So while we're talking about what not to watch Neighbors,
it's all over for neighbors in the UK.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Apparently today UK time, it's going to be the end
of Neighbors, end of an institution. And if you're thinking,
hold on, we haven't we been here already, you're not wrong.
It was axed in twenty twenty two after Channel five
dropped it over in the UK, but then of course
Amazon MGM Studios stepped in to try and save it.
But if this is a thing that I think we're
learning just as kind of legacy media really struggles in
(05:37):
this existential crisis, aren't we learning that if somebody steps
in tries to save that magazine, save that show, save
that channel, it's only ever temporary, save that news bulletin,
and it just prolongs it, but it dies anyway. So
it's forty years, nine thousand episodes, Guy Pierce, Margo, Robbie
plenty to thank it for. But today will be the
end of Neighbors.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The weird thing about the UK, isn't it when you
find out what music that they listen to there and
what TV they watch, and you think, wow, that's just
so even think like the Eurovision Song Contest. I think, man,
people are into weird stuff in the Northern Hemisphere, aren't they?
The rewrap right, Christmas time. This means treat time that
(06:18):
you want to make sure that your chocolate actually is chocolate,
don't you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Just on the subject of commodities price of cocoa, So
two more chocolate bars in the UK have now been
banned from calling themselves chocolate because they're not using enough
cocoa to actually be considered chocolate because of the price
of cocoa. So it's the Toffee Crisp and then the
Blue Ryeband products. They are now officially being described as
encased in a milk chocolate flavor coating, when of course
(06:42):
they would like to and had previously said they were
covered in milk chocolate.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
To be honest, I'm not that fussy. As long as
it's sweet and bad for me, I'll probably love it.
I think I don't get what you call it, just
get it in me.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The rerap Ah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So good to be able to talk about this. This
is a pet peeve of mine and apparently it's a
pet peeves of more and more people's all the time.
The Air New Zealand safety video might actually be on
the way out.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yes, listen, I have a question for you. Do you
think it's time that a new Zealand retires the safety video.
And I know that we talk about this all the time,
but the reason I'm asking this is The Herald's reporting
today that the latest one that they've been working on
has been grounded because of the cost saving right because
the New Zealand doesn't have the money, so they can
can hardly be spending the money on making one of
(07:29):
these elaborate ads. And what that means is that the
one that they've got at the moment, which features Steven Adams,
this one has been there such a long time that
by the time they get the new one, maybe sometime
later next year, it'll be one of the biggest gaps
between the old one and the new one, you know,
between replacing it. Anyway, reason I'm asking you this is
I was sitting on the plane the other day and
watching the safety video. And I don't have a problem
(07:52):
with the safety video. I've enjoyed them through the years
and I've defended them through the years. But I was
sitting there watching it thinking it feels like it was
a time and place thing.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Rob Fife was the boss of E New Zealand, and
it was funky and it was cheeky and it was
going out there and kind of knocking things out of
the park and just doing things a bit differently. That
is not the airline it is anymore. I mean, for
God's sake, they've taken your disposable cup away from you
and your newspaper and the Cora Club, right, and most
of us can't even be bothered paying for Cora Club anymore. So,
like it's just a completely different thing. So I just
(08:21):
wonder if this is the they should just they should
just bite the bullet and say, hey, that was fun.
These videos are getting too long, five minutes you want,
Glenn wants to watch this movie on the plane, and
so we're just going to go back to something that
just lasts a minute long, taws you the basics andwhere out.
It's time, isn't it? It's time, Heather, Yes, retire the
Air New Zealand video. I'm just back from flying all
(08:41):
over the world in different airlines. They just do stock standard, quick,
fast and done. And also another you know what another
reason to retire it for is is that inevitably when
they release the next one, we're going to have this
conversation again like we do every single time, and that
conversation also gets tired, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And also do they not have the technology because you
sit down in your seat and you know it says,
you know, hello Heather or hello Glenn, you know on
the on the screen because it knows who you are.
If that's the case, does it not also know that
you were just on a flight on the way to
somewhere and you're now just coming back a few days later.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So you get it like a dispensation not to walk correct.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think I've forgotten what the safety instructions were
between the flight over it, but it might not have.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Been paying attention the last time.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Definitely was it because it went for three and a
half minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, well this is true. I mean I find it hard.
I think the people largely complaining about it are the
people who catch the majority of flights and have to
sit there watching the same thing repetitively. It kind of
becomes like a song. Were like, you know when you
read your children books at night and you can just
sit there with you can actually close your eyes and
just start reading. Young Iggy Peck was an architect and
has been since he was two when he built a
great tower.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You know, like you can do see, I made them
read it to me, which is why they readers.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You can just shut your eyes with a safety video
and just mime along with it, can't you, Because.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I assume that's why you put your own oxygen mask
on first, Because and then the kids can lead you
to the right exit because they were paying attention while
you were right We got rid of their news healing
the safety video. Now, if we can just make the
Wi Fi work on the plane, why is it so
hard to log into the Wi Fi on the plane?
Why does it never work? I mean, I'm a tip
guy and I don't understand. I'll see if I could
(10:19):
figure that out over the weekend. Maybe I'll have the
answer for you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News talks'd be follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rep there and welcome to the rewrap for Friday. All
the best that's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast starring here
the dooper c Allen on News Talks. He'd be in
a sillier package. I'm Glen Hart, and today the streaming
war was raging in the States. It's Netflix versus Warner
Brothers The Neighbors. That's finished in the UK, even though
(00:49):
I thought it was already finished. Chocolate is so expensive
you can't have the real stuff anymore. And is it
time that we said goodbye to the New Zealand safety videos?
Surprise answer, Yes definitely. But versed up our AI overlords
have finally made They are Times Person of the Year.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Time magazine is just named its person of the Year
for twenty twenty five this morning, and it's not a
single person. It is the architects of AI. The magazine says,
no one has had as great an impact this year
than the people who designed, imagined and built AI. This
was the year the mag says that we stopped talking
about how clunky AI is and instead started sprinting to
deploy it as fast as possible, and now quote the
(01:32):
risk averse are no longer in the driver's seat, which
is probably true. But I'll tell you what, the risk
of verse is still a really big proportion of us,
aren't They mean? I think there are broadly three categories
of people when it comes to AI. You've got the
ones using it. You've got the ones apathetic about it
and waiting to be convinced that they actually need it.
And then you've got the ones who are terrified of it.
And the terrified ones are the ones who fascinate me.
(01:53):
They are the unions convinced that AI are going to
take the jobs. They are the forty seven percent of
kiwis who don't trust companies to use AI ethically. They're
the rule lovers who want the government to set up
more rules to protect us from AI. They're the artists
and the musicians who are pretending that AI can be
stopped for learning or what they call stealing their ideas.
The other people complaining that AI photos and AI videos
(02:13):
and AI songs are somehow evil and misleading. Resisting AI
is not a strategy. AI is happening, and it's not
going to go away resisting It feels a little bit
like a repeat of the resistance towards the computer thirty
forty years ago, which even Time magazine called a fad
back then. And then look where the computers are now.
The way to deal with AI is to accept that
(02:34):
it is going to fundamentally change everything and then figure
out how to make it work for you. And the
case in point today is Disney giving open AI permission
to use its characters like the Star Wars characters to
make videos. Like Mark Cuban said on the show yesterday,
AI is going to be big, and we actually have
no idea how big yet.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yes, So there you go. Robots are people too, Apparently
they can be person of the person of the air.
Looks like the robot Apocalypse as well and truly under way.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So rerap right.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So streaming, if we end up with one mega streamer,
does anybody went out of that depends on who else
might be the player in the market. Otherwise, I'll tell
you what.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
If there's one thing that's becoming apparent watching the battle
between Netflix and Paramount Buy Warner Brothers, it's that in
the end it might actually be Donald Trump who picks
the winner. Here, if you had to say who he
would choose when he does pick the winner, you'd have
to lean towards Paramount over Netflix. This is the one
with the hostile offer because Paramount's CEO is David Allison,
the son of Trump's mate Larry Allison. And you'd have
(03:39):
to imagine it's not only appealing to Trump to look
after his mates, which he does, but also, and maybe
more so, to have CNN, which he hates, currently owned
by Warner Brothers and therefore in the hands of an
ally the Netflix alternative he won't like as much. It's
that CNN is sold off to someone else as yet unspecified,
and then tipping the scales further for Paramount, as Jared Kushner,
(03:59):
Trump's son in law, helping Paramount with the steal. So
if I was putting money on it, I'd say, these
are the guys who are going to take it out.
But what's becoming increasingly clear is that anyone who was
worried that the biggest risk of a second Donald Trump
administration was him doing something wacky like introducing fascism to
the US was way off. It's not fascism that's the problem.
It's cronyism. Even the ukra deal Ukraine deal that he's
(04:20):
reportedly pitching stands to benefit apparently his friends. Financially, the
dealings with the Middle East that he's got going on
benefit him and his family. Business people have clearly realized
they need to suck up to him to get ahead.
When we had the US businessman and generally top character,
Mark Cuban on the show yesterday, normally Mark has a
strong case of TDS, but right now he needs Trump
to give him a concession on the pharmaceutical fees so
(04:41):
that he can start manufacturing in the US, and so
he's relatively quiet on the Trump criticism. You don't need
me to tell you how problematic it is for a
national leader to make political calls based on how much
money they're going to get from it. Worse though, is
if the behavior sticks around after that politician is gone.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I mean, we've got you know, Trump Crepto, We've got
Trump credit card, Trump Bibles, Trump Stakes. For that matter,
we may as well have Trump TV as well, don't
you think so?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So while we're talking about what not to watch Neighbors,
it's all over for neighbors in the UK.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Apparently today UK time, it's going to be the end
of Neighbors, end of an institution. And if you're thinking,
hold on, we haven't we been here already, you're not wrong.
It was axed in twenty twenty two after Channel five
dropped it over in the UK, but then of course
Amazon MGM Studios stepped in to try and save it.
But if this is a thing that I think we're
learning just as kind of legacy media really struggles in
(05:37):
this existential crisis, aren't we learning that if somebody steps
in tries to save that magazine, save that show, save
that channel, it's only ever temporary, save that news bulletin,
and it just prolongs it, but it dies anyway. So
it's forty years, nine thousand episodes, Guy Pierce, Margo, Robbie
plenty to thank it for. But today will be the
end of Neighbors.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The weird thing about the UK, isn't it when you
find out what music that they listen to there and
what TV they watch, and you think, wow, that's just
so even think like the Eurovision Song Contest. I think, man,
people are into weird stuff in the Northern Hemisphere, aren't they?
The rewrap right, Christmas time. This means treat time that
(06:18):
you want to make sure that your chocolate actually is chocolate,
don't you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Just on the subject of commodities price of cocoa, So
two more chocolate bars in the UK have now been
banned from calling themselves chocolate because they're not using enough
cocoa to actually be considered chocolate because of the price
of cocoa. So it's the Toffee Crisp and then the
Blue Ryeband products. They are now officially being described as
encased in a milk chocolate flavor coating, when of course
(06:42):
they would like to and had previously said they were
covered in milk chocolate.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
To be honest, I'm not that fussy. As long as
it's sweet and bad for me, I'll probably love it.
I think I don't get what you call it, just
get it in me.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The rerap Ah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So good to be able to talk about this. This
is a pet peeve of mine and apparently it's a
pet peeves of more and more people's all the time.
The Air New Zealand safety video might actually be on
the way out.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yes, listen, I have a question for you. Do you
think it's time that a new Zealand retires the safety video.
And I know that we talk about this all the time,
but the reason I'm asking this is The Herald's reporting
today that the latest one that they've been working on
has been grounded because of the cost saving right because
the New Zealand doesn't have the money, so they can
can hardly be spending the money on making one of
(07:29):
these elaborate ads. And what that means is that the
one that they've got at the moment, which features Steven Adams,
this one has been there such a long time that
by the time they get the new one, maybe sometime
later next year, it'll be one of the biggest gaps
between the old one and the new one, you know,
between replacing it. Anyway, reason I'm asking you this is
I was sitting on the plane the other day and
watching the safety video. And I don't have a problem
(07:52):
with the safety video. I've enjoyed them through the years
and I've defended them through the years. But I was
sitting there watching it thinking it feels like it was
a time and place thing.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Rob Fife was the boss of E New Zealand, and
it was funky and it was cheeky and it was
going out there and kind of knocking things out of
the park and just doing things a bit differently. That
is not the airline it is anymore. I mean, for
God's sake, they've taken your disposable cup away from you
and your newspaper and the Cora Club, right, and most
of us can't even be bothered paying for Cora Club anymore. So,
like it's just a completely different thing. So I just
(08:21):
wonder if this is the they should just they should
just bite the bullet and say, hey, that was fun.
These videos are getting too long, five minutes you want,
Glenn wants to watch this movie on the plane, and
so we're just going to go back to something that
just lasts a minute long, taws you the basics andwhere out.
It's time, isn't it? It's time, Heather, Yes, retire the
Air New Zealand video. I'm just back from flying all
(08:41):
over the world in different airlines. They just do stock standard, quick,
fast and done. And also another you know what another
reason to retire it for is is that inevitably when
they release the next one, we're going to have this
conversation again like we do every single time, and that
conversation also gets tired, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And also do they not have the technology because you
sit down in your seat and you know it says,
you know, hello Heather or hello Glenn, you know on
the on the screen because it knows who you are.
If that's the case, does it not also know that
you were just on a flight on the way to
somewhere and you're now just coming back a few days later.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So you get it like a dispensation not to walk correct.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think I've forgotten what the safety instructions were
between the flight over it, but it might not have.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Been paying attention the last time.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Definitely was it because it went for three and a
half minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, well this is true. I mean I find it hard.
I think the people largely complaining about it are the
people who catch the majority of flights and have to
sit there watching the same thing repetitively. It kind of
becomes like a song. Were like, you know when you
read your children books at night and you can just
sit there with you can actually close your eyes and
just start reading. Young Iggy Peck was an architect and
has been since he was two when he built a
great tower.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You know, like you can do see, I made them
read it to me, which is why they readers.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You can just shut your eyes with a safety video
and just mime along with it, can't you, Because.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I assume that's why you put your own oxygen mask
on first, Because and then the kids can lead you
to the right exit because they were paying attention while
you were right We got rid of their news healing
the safety video. Now, if we can just make the
Wi Fi work on the plane, why is it so
hard to log into the Wi Fi on the plane?
Why does it never work? I mean, I'm a tip
guy and I don't understand. I'll see if I could
(10:19):
figure that out over the weekend. Maybe I'll have the
answer for you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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