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July 22, 2025 • 15 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Hounding Hurrell/Viewing Options/Review Review/Don't Listen Tomorrow

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All
the best bits from the Mike Hosking Breakfast on News
Talk ZEDB in a sillier package. I am Glen Hart today. Yes,
so Sky buying Discovery does? What does that mean? What's
it going to do to the media landscape here in
New Zealand? We'll ask the question should you be allowed

(00:49):
to review something you didn't pay for? And we'll also
asked a question should you bother listening to Ed Sheeran
tomorrow He's being interviewed by Mike Hosking. But before any
of that, butter it's expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
What to do?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
How?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
What do you reckon? Happen? You know at the Button
meeting Willison, Hurrel, Nikola and Miles. Is it a meeting
that took on a hopeless amount of hype or was
it a sign that at times this government and Willison particular,
says stuff that makes them look like they're onto it
when perhaps they're not. Are the reality in these well

(01:28):
they meet regularly? Fonterra plays an outside's role in our economy,
and therefore it would be odd if they didn't. But
Nicola has this ponchon. Don't you think of saying stuff
that might lead you to believe she could produce the
noosy out of a handbag and blitz the room. She
has the banks, who she keeps telling us a people
we should not be locked in a dark room with.
She has the supermarkets, who, in her Cluseau type way,

(01:49):
suggest she's been ferreting about the aisles and has found
dastardly deeds. Jacinda had the same predilection when she told
us the petrol companies were quote unquote fleecing us. It's
all good stuff for headlines and attention. Of course, it's
very good, good guy, bad guy stuff. If hot air
were rocket fuel, she could have fluen to the moon
and back six times. But it is your butter anymore affordable?

(02:10):
Of course not, And in that is the problem, not
with the price, but with Nicola. Wouldn't it be fantastic
if there was a scandal or a ripoff or some
highway robbery. Wouldn't it be awesome if she could tie
a butter producer to a chair and water board them
until they screamed, yes, yes, yes, it's true. The real
price is only three seventy six eight fifty. Sadly, you

(02:31):
know it. It's not going to happen, and presumably as
if she needed it, Miles worked her through the calculations
at last night's meeting. We pay for butter the global price,
the ron being. In this case, that's actually good news
because dairy in general is booming and we need something
to boom for goodness sake. What we would like to
do versus what we have to do for good reason

(02:53):
are two separate things. That's why butter is the price
it is. The real question for Niccola is how many meetings,
threats and finger waggles does she have to produce for
no change before someone calls her out for being a
lot of mouth and not a lot of trouser.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Every time you're spending eight dollars fifty or more for
better yes, wiping that at the self checkout instead of
thinking to yourself, ouch, that's hurting my pocket.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Thank to yourself. I'm doing this for the country and
you'll feel so much better.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
So rewrap.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
That didn't stop Mikey Sherman chasing Miles Hurral down the street, though.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Mike, I'd be interested to hear your view on Mikey
Sherman from TV and Z chasing Myles Hurrle outside Parliament. Frank,
I wasn't going to raise that until you did, but
you did so I can't help myself for Frank, Frank,
why did you have to do that? Once again? Mikey,
who I kind of know but not really, is not
doing the profession any good. Miles isn't a criminal, Miles

(03:53):
isn't a shonky used car dealer. That and Mikey's not
a fair go reporter. You don't chase business people down
the street asking her bloke who doesn't set the butter
price as though he's el capone. You simply talk to
a person politely and say, at the appropriate moment, is
it possible I could have a word, not brate him

(04:14):
as he tries to cross a wet Wellington street, yelling
and squawking at him as the political editor of the
state run broadcaster. I just wish in this industry for
better and I didn't see it, sadly. Thanks for raising it, Frank,
Now you got me upset.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, thanks for nothing, Frank. He was in a good
mood up until that point I didn't see it. I'm
assuming that Myles Harrold had sort of pulled his jacket.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Up over his head so he couldn't see his face.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Even though obviously you can go online and look at
Myles Harrold and see what he looks like.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Rewrap now quite the to do yesterday?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
With Sky TV now owning Discovery, did they overpay?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'll tell you what the most upbeat thing that I've
read lately about the media. As a bloke who wrote
an article about buying the magazine he was working on
when it all went a pear shaped, he worked us
through what he had learned, what he had changed, how
it was going in magazine land Bauer, if you remember,
were the first two scarped when the dark old days
of COVID arrived and because they owned so much, a
lot of carnage ensued in a lot of magazines vanished

(05:21):
because well, maybe never to be seen again. The rest
is relatively though positive history, given most of the titles
seemed to be back locally owned and run and doing
from all accounts okay, So does Sky's purchase of Discovery
locally referred to as TV three close the circle of sorts,
and this tumultuous period of New Zealand media where any
amount of blood has been spelled and drama has played

(05:43):
out when I say circle closed By its very nature
of course, media revolves no matter what the period or
the era or the circumstances. But have things or will
things settle a bit? Stuff have got trade me on board,
and they claimed to be able to pay the bills
these days enzed me as a going concern, some parts
of which are particularly successful. SKY I have always looked
pretty solid as far as I can work out, through

(06:04):
this whole period, and now they got a great big
free to wear toy to play with. Works has a
massive new contract on billboards for their outdoor arms. So
a large number of interesting and new things may well
happen out of that. But their radio department, our debt aside,
has been successful TV and Z that's a bit of
an open question, I guess, given their bottom line and
need to invest shed loads and digital. But their state owned,

(06:24):
so they're not going to sink.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
So is that it?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I mean roughly sort of TV sorted, locally owned magazines
bubbling away, locally owned radio, the media that keeps on
keeping on making money, highly competitive? Have we finally faced
the enemy, taken the casualty count and cleared the runway?
Can we peer through the haze and smoke and see
a future? Is the worst now behind us? Fingers crossed?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I thought that if nobody listened, or nobody watched or
nobody read something, that those businesses were supposed to go.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Out of business anyway. Yeah, so they bought it for
a dollar?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Is that the absolute minimum that you're allowed to buy
things for? Is it? Because you often hear companies buying
other companies for a dollar, so you can't offer fifty cents,
and then if there's no other offers.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
So I think you can't trade me. I think if
there's no reserve, it's a rerap. Right.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Have you ever seen one of those people on a
flash new airplane talking about how flash and new the
airplane is, and wonder to yourself, did they.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Pay to be on the airplane?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Can I ask you this question? I was watching, by
the way, I was watching yesterday while I was on
the bike, a very good podcast. High Performance is the
name of the podcast, and he does quite good work.
The bloke who does it, and look him up and
he's sort of interesting. Anyway that Carlos signs on for
an hour, and Carlos signs you know the story roughly.
If you're an F one fan, you've probably been in

(07:55):
the weeds. But it's an hour of him just explaining
where he's been, what he's done, how he's done it,
why he's done it, how difficult it was. It's more,
it's not really about sport. It's about performance. It's about
mental attitude and success in life and goals and at
you know, well that stuff. So I thoroughly recommend that.
But the other thing I do when I'm on my
bike is I look at hotels as in reviews, and

(08:16):
I'm an av geek, and I look at airline reviews.
And there's a huge industry on YouTube these days of
people who do this as a living based on the
fact that they get subscribers and the subscribers pay basically,
so in other words, they don't go to the hotel
for free as a guest at the hotel, and they
don't fly the airline for free as a guest of
the airline, because I think that is gone. And yet

(08:39):
ironically yesterday I reading stuff a review of a French hotel,
and I look to the end and the woman who's
written the review in New Zealander, she has stayed there
as a guest at the hotel, and I'm thinking, well,
what else is you going to say about the hotel
other than ah, the absolu. Don't they fantastic? Right? And
then I read in the Herald yesterday your Ultimate Guide
to flying business class for the first time, and I

(08:59):
looked to the bottom of the article and what was
the woman doing? She's flying compliments and memorates. Who'd upgrade
to it to business?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Now?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
What she' going to go? I was a bit of ordinary.
The service, food was a bit odd. So I'm asking
you this question. In a world where there are people
who will pay for this experience and give you an
honest review because they owe nobody anything, therefore they've got
some credibility, is there still room left in the media
for people to take freebies and then pretend that they're

(09:28):
honest reviews. Whether they are or not. Now they may
well be honest reviews, I don't know, but you never know.
And that's the point. If somebody gives you something for nothing,
how can you possibly be truthful about it? When sometimes
the truth needs to be told there's my question for
you this morning.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah, it's tricky.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I mean a lot of people review things just so
that they can use those things. Do those things get
those things? But then the question is if they didn't
get to do those things, if they had to pay
for themselves, then they probably wouldn't do it, and so
you wouldn't know what those things are like. I mean,

(10:08):
obviously I review gadgets for the news to zipby website,
for example, and I don't buy any of them.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Some of them I have bought after I reviewed them
because I was so impressed with them. Generally, I've got
to give those things back. It's not like I get
to kick them. Earbuds is the obvious exception there.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't think too many people are excited about putting
earbuds in their ears after they've been in my ears.
So yeah, I've got quite a stash of earbuds, but
I'm not doing it for the earbuds. And also, you know,
nobody's going to be interested in reading my review if
I don't sometimes say, actually, these earbuds aren't as good
as the other earbuds I tried, you know what I mean? Man,

(10:55):
I get seen a lot of earbuds the re rat
and sometimes I listened to Edge sharing on those earbuds,
not him talking, usually him singing.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
They can't contain myself. So it's hearing on the program
tomorrow after rates. And I'll let you in on a secret.
I've already done it. I did it last night. And
the reason I'm telling you this but now is I've
been dying to ask him about Coldplay. This is the

(11:23):
biggest story in the world if you think about it
this way, that it's gone everywhere. It's intergenerational, it's intercontinent,
it's into country. It's humorous, it's tragic, it's sad, it's entertainment,
it's news, it's legals, it's jobs, it's lives, it's sackings,
it's upheaval. It is the biggest story in the world.

(11:43):
And Chris Martin, I feel, has not done his job
as the person who is at least in part responsible
for the carnage that's ensued. And so I thought last
night I'm going to ask gold It about this until
the person who sets up the interviews goes just before
you start, my no questions about Jumbo Tron or Chris Martin,

(12:04):
please stuff that. And so we asked, like kiss Cam, Yeah,
do you run it? You've got a jumbo tron.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
We've never done it, but they're you know, I think
that all shows are different, Like my show is very
different to the Guns and the Show and the Coldplay
Show and the Taylor Show, and I think that that's
what makes stadium shows great. And yeah, it's that's been
part of their show since the beginning. It's just now
it is obviously international news for you know, something that

(12:37):
I feel like lots lots of people go through and
I wouldn't say it's any like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't know, no, I mean, I mean, let's be honest.
I mean I feel bad for them. I feel really
bad for them. I almost think it's an invasion of privacy.
I mean, I know, you're at a show and I
get all of that, but at some point, destroying somebody's life,
you know, I mean, you've got to feel about you
gotta feel bad about that, don't you.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, I definitely. I don't like the way that it's unfolding.
And I think everyone just has to that. There's like
children involved in families and.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, exactly He's right, isn't he? And he and this
is why we all love Ed Sheeran. He's done what
Chris Martin should have. And all Chris Martin did was
front up at the next concert and go just in
case anyone's here, and he tried to be a smart
ass about it. And there's a line to be drawn
between the fun and the frivolity of where that story

(13:34):
was at at the very beginning of it. And just imagine,
as Ed Sheeran quite rightly pointed out, and you don't
need too much brain power to work it through. Just
imagine the impact on those people around, the individuals concerned.
And anyway, there was more where that came from tomorrow.
It was a very good interview, if I can review myself,

(13:57):
which I am, it was a very good interview. I
thoroughly enjoyed it. And what I was saying to Katie
last night was we first interviewed and when did we
first interview in what I'm saying, eight nineteen years ago?
And I did him and it was on years ago
something like that. And he was dreadful talent, he used
to be. He was shy, introspective, he had nothing particular

(14:19):
to say, and I thought, but he was still a
big noise and you're thinking it's a very difficult position
to be and when you interview somebody who's a big
deal but they're not actually very good talent. But he's
come out of himself in recent years and he's a
very very likable, enjoyable, engaging person and we had a
wonderful time. The other thing I asked him about, by
the way, is Chris Hemsworth. Now this is worth noting.

(14:41):
It's not out till next month, but Hemsworth and Sheeron
have done a thing that I'll tell you about tomorrow.
That and Hemsworth's show, which is called Limitless, that's well
worth watching if you want to improve yourself, advance your life,
be a better person, Limitless as well worth watching. But
what Sheeron and Hymsworth have done is brilliant. So we

(15:01):
talk about that on the program tomorrow as well. I
don't think it's actually actually any interview left now, don't
worry about listening to it.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh he said a Bleuwe it the in there, didn't he?
I mean that was shaping up to be a very good, little,
you know, teaser. Get a bit of sizzle going about
this interview that we're playing out tomorrow. Morning, and then
he told he literally told people not to listen to it.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
There's just no raining. Mike hosking In, is there. No,
that's not my job.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
No, I don't know exactly what my job is, but
I'm pretty sure it's not that. I mean, who can
I am a Greenhart though. I think part of my
job is doing this podcast, and I will do it
again tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
So you think.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
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