February 24, 2025 • 13 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) What If He's a Real Weirdo?/Is It Different for All Blacks?/Name Your Five Things/Waiting for the Trump Implosion/More Hospo Myths Busted
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap O.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Gooday there, and welcome to the rerap for Tuesday, all
the best butts from the my casting breakfast on news
Talk said be in a sillier package.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I am Glen hard and.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Today Caleb Clark should he not have gotten into a
little bit more trouble than he did? The letter from
Doge asking people or demanding people really that they explain
five things that they've done.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
In the last week.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And the Trump administration generally more generally, is it stays numbered?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Are its days numbered? Which way? I can't remember? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And we're going to finish up with some besting this
hospitality myth.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Is it in trouble? Is it dying or not? The
first up?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, the strange and peculiar case of Andrew Bailey.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Listen of this, Mike. I don't like the vast majority
of politicians. Andrew Bailey actually had a successful life in
the business world. Most of our politicians couldn't read a
balance sheet. But Bailey clearly canon was actually doing work
in his portfolio, and like some of the other lightweights,
Why would anyone who has a successful life outside politics
want to sign up if you'll get the boot for
making silly jesters and touching somebody on the arm. It's
a it's a fine line. I don't defend what he did.
(01:37):
I mean, I don't even know what he did. I mean,
does anyone actually know what he did? I mean, was
the do we even know the person's male or female?
Was it female? Is that confirmed? Was a male? So
it's a male. So you grab somebody's arm. No, it's
not cool, No, but it's you know, really, maybe he'd
had a clean sheet, it would have been nothing. But
he didn't have a clean sheet, and that weird loser
(01:59):
thing that you can't explain that either. So maybe the
guy I don't know him from a barrasap. Maybe he's eclectic,
Maybe he's an odd bloke, maybe he's an odd ball.
But is he a decent blow he's a good representative
of the region. Somebody who was asking yesterday why didn't
he resign as an MP and his whole Well, of course,
why not. Let's let's have a by election. Why don't
we spend half a million dollars on a good old
by election? As well, because God forbid, he holds onto
(02:21):
a job forever. The whole thing just seems to be
yet another example of why this country is drifting so
bloody aimlessly, because we obsess about MINUTII and that's our problem.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We don't I feel like we don't really know enough details.
I mean, and Mike said as much this morning. But
the general vibe is that people seem to think that
getting rid of a guy who seems to be a
relatively effective politician because he grabs somebody by the arm
is a bit ott but he does have a bit
(02:55):
of form, and personally, I'm just getting the feeling that
is he one of those people who just makes you
feel a bit weird, and nobody wants to work with
that kind of person. And once that person and grab
somebody by the arm, it's a very good excuse.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
To shuffle them.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Along, because you can't get rid of somebody just for
being a bit weird, but you're certainly relieved to get
rid of them for justifiable grounds. For those grounds appear'd
like I say, I'm literally just speculating. I've got nothing
to base this on it, and I could be completely wrong.
Probably a usually am. It's so Rewrap and then you've
(03:36):
got the Caleb Clark case, which you're not familiar. If
you're not familiar with it, here's Mike with the deeds.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
So on a day of a resignation at a fairly
high level, we also have a confession in court from
another high profile operator. The problem with high profile is
it tends to be high wire. Of course, more is
expected of you because of your role, or is it
Andrew Bailey, from the details available as we've been discussing
this morning, which aren't many, didn't commit a sackable offense.
As far as I can work out, putting your hand
(04:01):
on the arm of a person you're having a lively
discussion with it isn't verty cool or acceptable, but in
and of itself, it's not the end of a Korean
But the trouble with Bailey is the loser thing, in
some way, shape or form, was always going to haunt him.
So a small infringement by way of a follow up
misdemeanor was always going to be larger than it would
have been with a clean sheet. Also, Luxeon set the
behavior bar high. The precedent, is there any trouble you're out?
(04:23):
Contrasts that to Caleb Clark, who has pled guilty to
dangerous driving and failing to stop for the police. Maximum sentence,
which will happen in June, is many thousands of dollars
and several years of jail time. His lawyer wants him
discharged without conviction. Unlike Bailey, he has an offer to
quit as far as I know, So the question becomes
is a sackable offense? Drink driving has been established with
(04:44):
a number of incidents over the years with high profile convictions,
not to be a sackable offense. So the president is
set there. But what about dangerous driving? And more worryingly,
with the message it sends failing to stop for the police?
Failing to stop with a view to what scarper not
get caught, evade the law, get away with it. Law
and order, of course, been a major election issue in
(05:04):
the police's role in getting on top of law breaking
has been a major fe focus for most of us
of late. If I, as a high profile operator, was
up on charges this morning of failing to stop or
dangerous driving, would you expect me to be sacked? Would
this workplace beyond whatever happens in court, expect to see
some sort of resignation from me. I suspect yes, or
does profile only count in politics where no law was
(05:27):
broken but emotions got you sacked instead? What does an
all black have to do illegally to be sacked as
an all black?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Just going back the whole no law was broken. Think
grabbing somebody by the arm I think.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is a chargeable offense.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I mean it wasn't in this case, but I think
it does qualify as assault.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
In certain circumstances.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So but yes, well, yeah, I don't know. There do
seem to be strange exceptions and special circumstances found for
high profile people sometimes and not others.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You can't argue with.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right, Let's turn our attention back to the White House.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
In the US, federal employees have been told they must
explain five things they did last week there were of
any use.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's like so many things the Trump administration are doing
right now. There is a seed of a good idea
on the musk email asking what it has people do
each week. Obviously overall it's insane, it achieves nothing, No
one's reading them. It's not a disciplined exercise, well targeted
with a honed in outcome. In mind. It's a mass
shocking or piece of nuttiness that goes along with all
the other nuttiness we've seen from musk of late. By
(06:48):
the way, given how many cars Tesla are currently recalling,
we might like to ask elon just how much attention
he's paid to his car firm lately, and how all
the customers who went and got a Tesla only to
have to give it back the feel and whether he
was actually paying attention to his job or just being
a knob at seapack with a chainsaw. Small fun fact,
Tesla recalled more cars last year than anyone according to
(07:09):
motor one dot com. How come he can't build a
car properly? And if he can't, how can he be
trusted to be in charge of a mass reorganization of
the public service. But as an idea, the concept of
checking off five things you did last week, how many
would one have trouble? Two? Put five things down? But
if they were honest, wonder if a few weren't a
bit non essential, or three look at just what it
(07:30):
is they do for a living and come to the
conclusion that what they do isn't interesting or important or
perhaps most importantly, enjoyable. COVID was a blessing in that sense,
wasn't it? As it seems a lot of people genuinely
ask themselves the meaning of life, or at least parts
of life, and decided they were trapped, so did something
about it. Change of job, change of outlook, change of company,
change of country, working from home, which was a change
(07:51):
has turned out to be bad news, but seems a
permanent part of the new landscape. Maybe we should all
get an email every now and again to focus the mind.
A given life is short. How many are trapped? How
many aboard? How many do stuff that goes nowhere? How
many filled time with nothingness? How many would actually benefit
from that level of honest and accountability?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And so, of course I've been trying to figure out
throughout the morning with it. I did five things last week.
I mean I did five radio shows last week.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I suppose I was involved in.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Those, made five rewrap podcasts, made five newstalks they have
been podcasts? Or do those only count as one thing each?
And do I need to come up with another two things?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
See? Then that's getting tricky. I washed the cars out
of the weekend. What was that?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
The last weekend? Actually No, that might have been last weekend.
There can I Can I make it up this week?
Can I try and do seven things?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Wrap?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
As usual, another busy day for Trump. He hosted Macron
at the White House.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So it's Macron and Trump? Whose first? Should we do
Macron first? Let's do Macron first.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
He's willing to step up to be a stronger partner,
to do more on defense and security for its continent,
and has aught to be a reliable a partner and
to be engaged on trade, economy, investments, in a lot
of topics.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
All right, So that's so far, it's so far, so
up beat. He's got all the Europe on his back,
of course, and no pressure on that. And then Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I think a lot of progress has been made. We've
had some very good talks with Russia. We've had some
very good talks with others, and we're trying to get
the war ended with Russia and Ukraine. And I think
we've come a long way in a short period of weeks.
And the President's been very helpful also. And we're also
talking about trade, various great deals that we will be
(09:41):
doing with France.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, let's see how that goes. Shell we James Carvill,
who you'll know if you've been around to the Clinton years,
fairly serious political operator in the Democratic circles of America.
He says Trump's going to implode within thirty days. And
the good thing about that prediction did it on a podcast.
The good thing about that prediction is it's timelined. It's
thirty days, so by the end of March, let's give
him a little bit of Leadway, by the end of March,
(10:04):
according to Carvil, it's all going to complete it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Does he mean physically, No, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
The administration's over because there are too many weird emails,
too much nuttiness going on. The pushback from the Republican
is going to be so great. So his advice to
the Democrats has just staged them and just watch them
and plow.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I find that unlikely, that implosion, although, and I'm just
as I record this on watching the post Macron Trump
meeting press conference, and I was really hoping that mccron
had just come out and go, look, guys, I've tried that.
After spending an hour or so with this guy, he's
(10:42):
an imbecile in for his new clothes situation here he's
not wearing any I'm going to leave it up to
the American people to do something about this, and when
you have call us and we'll come back to the table.
That would be the ideal scenario. But unfortunately he's just
doing this whole Yes, yes, everybody needs to increase their
(11:03):
defense to him a good point.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
We'll get on and do that. So re wrap now
we're just going to finish. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I think this is going to be an ongoing discussion
throughout the week, if not the year. Mike's impression that
hospitality seems to be going well versus a general hype
that hospitality is in big trouble.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Insight into HOSPO. So yesterday, Plank, this is Wellington closing
next month, Winebar, custom House, key Johnson Street, relatively well
known but opens it's twenty twenty three. What I'm leading
to is this is owned one of a number of eateies.
It's owned by the U Group. So the You Group
are telling us on one hand that they've never seen
life so difficult. So they had Atlas. If you're a Wellingtonian,
(11:43):
you know the area Atlas that closed in twenty twenty three.
Decreased appetite for fine dining. Here's what I'm assessing. And
this comes out of a conversation yesterday in which I said,
the places I've been lately are just absolutely jam packed,
like ludicrously, so you can't get access to them. So
how come I'm still hearing all of the hospos dreadful.
(12:03):
It's a nightmare. We can't get staff, we can't operate
a business, will going bust. There seems to be two
diametrically opposing stories here. So you, on one hand, are
telling me, upon the closure of the particular operation, the
plank Bar, that life is tough, it's never been harder.
And yet in the same story, they remain buoyant. They
(12:24):
close three venues but open six, So in other words,
they're expanding. So is it only we're hearing about the
three they closed, but we're not hearing about the six
they open. Is that what's going on in Hospo? Is
it specific to the what you're doing. If you're doing
the coffee in the cafe, you might well do well.
If you're doing the fine dining, you might not. If
(12:44):
the wine bar is not working, you'll open up a bakery.
Is that what's going on at Hospo? Let me know.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Did they just think that Plank was a bit of
a silly name.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Could have been a silly name.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, you're not going to have any business meetings there
for a starters, are you. Hey, I'm sure we meet
up at plonk and go over the contracts. Silly name,
not like this podcast has a great name, the rewrap
and I'll be back with it again tomorrow where it
will still be called the same thing, and it will still.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Be a thing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap O.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Gooday there, and welcome to the rerap for Tuesday, all
the best butts from the my casting breakfast on news
Talk said be in a sillier package.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I am Glen hard and.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Today Caleb Clark should he not have gotten into a
little bit more trouble than he did? The letter from
Doge asking people or demanding people really that they explain
five things that they've done.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
In the last week.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And the Trump administration generally more generally, is it stays numbered?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Are its days numbered? Which way? I can't remember? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And we're going to finish up with some besting this
hospitality myth.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Is it in trouble? Is it dying or not? The
first up?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, the strange and peculiar case of Andrew Bailey.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Listen of this, Mike. I don't like the vast majority
of politicians. Andrew Bailey actually had a successful life in
the business world. Most of our politicians couldn't read a
balance sheet. But Bailey clearly canon was actually doing work
in his portfolio, and like some of the other lightweights,
Why would anyone who has a successful life outside politics
want to sign up if you'll get the boot for
making silly jesters and touching somebody on the arm. It's
a it's a fine line. I don't defend what he did.
(01:37):
I mean, I don't even know what he did. I mean,
does anyone actually know what he did? I mean, was
the do we even know the person's male or female?
Was it female? Is that confirmed? Was a male? So
it's a male. So you grab somebody's arm. No, it's
not cool, No, but it's you know, really, maybe he'd
had a clean sheet, it would have been nothing. But
he didn't have a clean sheet, and that weird loser
(01:59):
thing that you can't explain that either. So maybe the
guy I don't know him from a barrasap. Maybe he's eclectic,
Maybe he's an odd bloke, maybe he's an odd ball.
But is he a decent blow he's a good representative
of the region. Somebody who was asking yesterday why didn't
he resign as an MP and his whole Well, of course,
why not. Let's let's have a by election. Why don't
we spend half a million dollars on a good old
by election? As well, because God forbid, he holds onto
(02:21):
a job forever. The whole thing just seems to be
yet another example of why this country is drifting so
bloody aimlessly, because we obsess about MINUTII and that's our problem.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We don't I feel like we don't really know enough details.
I mean, and Mike said as much this morning. But
the general vibe is that people seem to think that
getting rid of a guy who seems to be a
relatively effective politician because he grabs somebody by the arm
is a bit ott but he does have a bit
(02:55):
of form, and personally, I'm just getting the feeling that
is he one of those people who just makes you
feel a bit weird, and nobody wants to work with
that kind of person. And once that person and grab
somebody by the arm, it's a very good excuse.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
To shuffle them.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Along, because you can't get rid of somebody just for
being a bit weird, but you're certainly relieved to get
rid of them for justifiable grounds. For those grounds appear'd
like I say, I'm literally just speculating. I've got nothing
to base this on it, and I could be completely wrong.
Probably a usually am. It's so Rewrap and then you've
(03:36):
got the Caleb Clark case, which you're not familiar. If
you're not familiar with it, here's Mike with the deeds.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
So on a day of a resignation at a fairly
high level, we also have a confession in court from
another high profile operator. The problem with high profile is
it tends to be high wire. Of course, more is
expected of you because of your role, or is it
Andrew Bailey, from the details available as we've been discussing
this morning, which aren't many, didn't commit a sackable offense.
As far as I can work out, putting your hand
(04:01):
on the arm of a person you're having a lively
discussion with it isn't verty cool or acceptable, but in
and of itself, it's not the end of a Korean
But the trouble with Bailey is the loser thing, in
some way, shape or form, was always going to haunt him.
So a small infringement by way of a follow up
misdemeanor was always going to be larger than it would
have been with a clean sheet. Also, Luxeon set the
behavior bar high. The precedent, is there any trouble you're out?
(04:23):
Contrasts that to Caleb Clark, who has pled guilty to
dangerous driving and failing to stop for the police. Maximum sentence,
which will happen in June, is many thousands of dollars
and several years of jail time. His lawyer wants him
discharged without conviction. Unlike Bailey, he has an offer to
quit as far as I know, So the question becomes
is a sackable offense? Drink driving has been established with
(04:44):
a number of incidents over the years with high profile convictions,
not to be a sackable offense. So the president is
set there. But what about dangerous driving? And more worryingly,
with the message it sends failing to stop for the police?
Failing to stop with a view to what scarper not
get caught, evade the law, get away with it. Law
and order, of course, been a major election issue in
(05:04):
the police's role in getting on top of law breaking
has been a major fe focus for most of us
of late. If I, as a high profile operator, was
up on charges this morning of failing to stop or
dangerous driving, would you expect me to be sacked? Would
this workplace beyond whatever happens in court, expect to see
some sort of resignation from me. I suspect yes, or
does profile only count in politics where no law was
(05:27):
broken but emotions got you sacked instead? What does an
all black have to do illegally to be sacked as
an all black?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Just going back the whole no law was broken. Think
grabbing somebody by the arm I think.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is a chargeable offense.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I mean it wasn't in this case, but I think
it does qualify as assault.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
In certain circumstances.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So but yes, well, yeah, I don't know. There do
seem to be strange exceptions and special circumstances found for
high profile people sometimes and not others.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You can't argue with.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right, Let's turn our attention back to the White House.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
In the US, federal employees have been told they must
explain five things they did last week there were of
any use.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's like so many things the Trump administration are doing
right now. There is a seed of a good idea
on the musk email asking what it has people do
each week. Obviously overall it's insane, it achieves nothing, No
one's reading them. It's not a disciplined exercise, well targeted
with a honed in outcome. In mind. It's a mass
shocking or piece of nuttiness that goes along with all
the other nuttiness we've seen from musk of late. By
(06:48):
the way, given how many cars Tesla are currently recalling,
we might like to ask elon just how much attention
he's paid to his car firm lately, and how all
the customers who went and got a Tesla only to
have to give it back the feel and whether he
was actually paying attention to his job or just being
a knob at seapack with a chainsaw. Small fun fact,
Tesla recalled more cars last year than anyone according to
(07:09):
motor one dot com. How come he can't build a
car properly? And if he can't, how can he be
trusted to be in charge of a mass reorganization of
the public service. But as an idea, the concept of
checking off five things you did last week, how many
would one have trouble? Two? Put five things down? But
if they were honest, wonder if a few weren't a
bit non essential, or three look at just what it
(07:30):
is they do for a living and come to the
conclusion that what they do isn't interesting or important or
perhaps most importantly, enjoyable. COVID was a blessing in that sense,
wasn't it? As it seems a lot of people genuinely
ask themselves the meaning of life, or at least parts
of life, and decided they were trapped, so did something
about it. Change of job, change of outlook, change of company,
change of country, working from home, which was a change
(07:51):
has turned out to be bad news, but seems a
permanent part of the new landscape. Maybe we should all
get an email every now and again to focus the mind.
A given life is short. How many are trapped? How
many aboard? How many do stuff that goes nowhere? How
many filled time with nothingness? How many would actually benefit
from that level of honest and accountability?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And so, of course I've been trying to figure out
throughout the morning with it. I did five things last week.
I mean I did five radio shows last week.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I suppose I was involved in.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Those, made five rewrap podcasts, made five newstalks they have
been podcasts? Or do those only count as one thing each?
And do I need to come up with another two things?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
See? Then that's getting tricky. I washed the cars out
of the weekend. What was that?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
The last weekend? Actually No, that might have been last weekend.
There can I Can I make it up this week?
Can I try and do seven things?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Wrap?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
As usual, another busy day for Trump. He hosted Macron
at the White House.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So it's Macron and Trump? Whose first? Should we do
Macron first? Let's do Macron first.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
He's willing to step up to be a stronger partner,
to do more on defense and security for its continent,
and has aught to be a reliable a partner and
to be engaged on trade, economy, investments, in a lot
of topics.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
All right, So that's so far, it's so far, so
up beat. He's got all the Europe on his back,
of course, and no pressure on that. And then Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I think a lot of progress has been made. We've
had some very good talks with Russia. We've had some
very good talks with others, and we're trying to get
the war ended with Russia and Ukraine. And I think
we've come a long way in a short period of weeks.
And the President's been very helpful also. And we're also
talking about trade, various great deals that we will be
(09:41):
doing with France.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, let's see how that goes. Shell we James Carvill,
who you'll know if you've been around to the Clinton years,
fairly serious political operator in the Democratic circles of America.
He says Trump's going to implode within thirty days. And
the good thing about that prediction did it on a podcast.
The good thing about that prediction is it's timelined. It's
thirty days, so by the end of March, let's give
him a little bit of Leadway, by the end of March,
(10:04):
according to Carvil, it's all going to complete it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Does he mean physically, No, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
The administration's over because there are too many weird emails,
too much nuttiness going on. The pushback from the Republican
is going to be so great. So his advice to
the Democrats has just staged them and just watch them
and plow.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I find that unlikely, that implosion, although, and I'm just
as I record this on watching the post Macron Trump
meeting press conference, and I was really hoping that mccron
had just come out and go, look, guys, I've tried that.
After spending an hour or so with this guy, he's
(10:42):
an imbecile in for his new clothes situation here he's
not wearing any I'm going to leave it up to
the American people to do something about this, and when
you have call us and we'll come back to the table.
That would be the ideal scenario. But unfortunately he's just
doing this whole Yes, yes, everybody needs to increase their
(11:03):
defense to him a good point.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
We'll get on and do that. So re wrap now
we're just going to finish. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I think this is going to be an ongoing discussion
throughout the week, if not the year. Mike's impression that
hospitality seems to be going well versus a general hype
that hospitality is in big trouble.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Insight into HOSPO. So yesterday, Plank, this is Wellington closing
next month, Winebar, custom House, key Johnson Street, relatively well
known but opens it's twenty twenty three. What I'm leading
to is this is owned one of a number of eateies.
It's owned by the U Group. So the You Group
are telling us on one hand that they've never seen
life so difficult. So they had Atlas. If you're a Wellingtonian,
(11:43):
you know the area Atlas that closed in twenty twenty three.
Decreased appetite for fine dining. Here's what I'm assessing. And
this comes out of a conversation yesterday in which I said,
the places I've been lately are just absolutely jam packed,
like ludicrously, so you can't get access to them. So
how come I'm still hearing all of the hospos dreadful.
(12:03):
It's a nightmare. We can't get staff, we can't operate
a business, will going bust. There seems to be two
diametrically opposing stories here. So you, on one hand, are
telling me, upon the closure of the particular operation, the
plank Bar, that life is tough, it's never been harder.
And yet in the same story, they remain buoyant. They
(12:24):
close three venues but open six, So in other words,
they're expanding. So is it only we're hearing about the
three they closed, but we're not hearing about the six
they open. Is that what's going on in Hospo? Is
it specific to the what you're doing. If you're doing
the coffee in the cafe, you might well do well.
If you're doing the fine dining, you might not. If
(12:44):
the wine bar is not working, you'll open up a bakery.
Is that what's going on at Hospo? Let me know.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Did they just think that Plank was a bit of
a silly name.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Could have been a silly name.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, you're not going to have any business meetings there
for a starters, are you. Hey, I'm sure we meet
up at plonk and go over the contracts. Silly name,
not like this podcast has a great name, the rewrap
and I'll be back with it again tomorrow where it
will still be called the same thing, and it will still.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Be a thing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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