September 2, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) We're So Over This, Aren't We?/When We Got Scared/Accentuate the Positive/How We Shop/Trump Not Dead, Probably
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks, EDB, Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All the best
that's from the mic asking Breakfast on Newstalgs, ed Beat
and a silier paggage IROM Clean Heart And today we're
still talking wind aws, Amazon Web services. Why it wasn't
a biggest story by local or by cheap the hard choice.
(00:49):
And unfortunately Trump is not dead. But before any of
that acts climate policy or either there it's a nut
in policy, really, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Lbert Seymour's call around this power is called meliads to
the list of calls around the powers are called globally,
if you if you could park the emotion, just park
the emotion right and the band wagons associated with the
around saving the planet. The case for twenty fifty no
longer adds up. Take the countries that never signed up
in the first place, Take the countries like America that
are now leaving. Take the future British Tory government who
(01:18):
will bail Take the world's biggest climate alliance for banks.
You won't have read about this. They've suspended their activities
and proposed to vote on scrapping its current structure after
a whole pile of members bailed. Basically, the net zero
Banking Alliance RIGHT stated their commitment was to align their
lending with achieving net zero. Didn't work, didn't even come close.
Since Paris in twenty fifteen, banks globally have provided loans
(01:42):
of six point four trillion US to oil and gas right,
six point four trillion to green projects four point three.
Founder of Reclaimed Finance, a woman called Lucy Pinson, says
the reality is the Banking Alliance never truly challenged the
fossil fuel business models. No kidding on fact, climate is losing.
You can argue forever about why that is and whether
that's good or bad. But if it is fact you
(02:03):
are using, then the Seymour call and the growing actions
of places like America are actually sensible. I mean, just
how much fast? How many cops cops eighteen nineteen, twenty seven,
thirty two, How many of those cops do you want
to continue to failure? How many press releases do you
want asking for us to redouble our efforts knowing it's
never going to happen. How much funding, how many air miles.
How many promises that will never come close to reality?
(02:24):
Do you want to pursue in what simply now is
an obviously vain hope, A well intentioned hope, yes, laudable, yes,
but futile. Maybe it's zero or Paris you could argue
as a guide, an aspiration and let's, you know, give
it a go and see how close we get sort
of thing. Perhaps with no target, the whole thing does
fall apart. But like a lot of nonsensical ideas, this
one has fast become exposed as a bust. If good
(02:47):
intention and hot air was currency, it might be different,
But the facts and the truth tell us it isn't.
Maybe we're all going to Hell in a handcart, a dirty, filthy,
climate induced handcart. Or maybe we aren't. But the juggernaut
of Paris isn't working, never really did. Good clear decisive
decision making would mean we stop the rot, the expense
the energy sooner rather then later.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Oh you can feel it, can't you? You can feel it?
These are real. We just don't care about the environment anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Sweeping, not just America, not just here, sweeping the world.
And you know, for a little while there the people
who wanted to do something about this stuff. We're starting
to make some ground, you know. And yes, some things
were or we thought out or probably weren't having the
effect that they.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Wanted them to. But that's gone now, isn't it. It's
all gone. Oh well, they tried.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So the wind that we had, especially in Auckland, that
caused problems was that historically bad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Not surprisingly, the apology started flowing yesterday they're being issued.
Auckland Airport apologized said sorry for what sounds like a
horror show on Sunday, as everyone decided the wind. Yes
it was windy, but not a lot armingly so, just windy.
But everyone at the airport decided life needed to stop
because of it, people who had landed. Funnily enough, the
wind didn't stopped flying, but once you'd landed, you were
(04:18):
trapped on your plane for hours. Apparently ours literally ours,
because doors became an issue. Doors and wind are a
problem while they are if you decide they are, which
they did. People quite rightly, were apoplectic. The sorry came
with the usual safety first nonsense. Safety first has become
an excuse for fear, hasn't it. They closed Cornwall Park
as we've discussed on the program this week. A whole park,
(04:40):
a massive open space, was closed for wind, and they
made the announcement the day before. The wind hadn't even arrived.
The forecast could in fact have been wrong. Often is,
and yet no, let's announce the matter a day in advance.
The Auckland Harbor Bridge was of course closed on and off.
Given we have had wind before, I thought to myself yesterday,
Given we've had wind before, I mean, wind, I am
told has been around for many years. Now what was
(05:02):
it we did with parks near bridges and bridges generally
in god dare I use the phrase the good old
I lived in Wellington for a decade, the home of wind.
I've landed in proper wind, real wind. But when I did,
I got off the door somehow must have been opened.
As a kid, I never saw a closed park. Wind
didn't seem to be a thing. When did wind become
(05:22):
a thing? When did the fear take grip? Is this COVID?
I mean, did COVID give us license to basically become
feeble to second guess anything? In everything? Orange warnings, red
warnings from the Met Service? You know they're new, right?
You realize that they are invented just recently, why so
we can be more afraid. Can chat GPT tell us
whether the phrase just in case and health and safety
(05:46):
first has seen a gargantuine increase in usage post COVID.
I still at Seattle Airport. Once in a blizzard, you know,
like a proper blizzard, snow, ice and wind. They de
iced the planes, they swept the runways. I took off
for Los Angeles. And here's the thing. The authorities will
never convince us there, right because we hold the common
sense card. We can see fear induced BA a mile off.
(06:09):
So the apologies.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I've referred you to this podcast before if you're a
long time listener, But the Dollar it's loosely an American
history podcast where they take a pretty crazy story from
American history and.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Talk about that. Each episode there's one on.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The Amber Alert System, the Red alert system, the warning
system for terror threats that was put in place after
September eleventh in the United States.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
It's well worth a listen because, yeah, it's an interesting
lesson on government control.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you're and if you're into thinking about that sort
of stuff, ever listen to that. If you'd rather pretend
that sort of stuff isn't happening. Give it a miss,
rewrap right, big data, welcome on in seven and a
half billion bucks. Yes, please Amazon, but apparently the media
don't want it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Again.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I was embarrassed by the New Zealand media yesterday. What
was a bullish, upbeat good day for New Zealand Inc.
I AWS were in, the centers were live, there were jobs,
that was investment. It was good. We became for reasons.
But when I say, well, I'm not part of it, obsessed.
They've found some land out in west Auckland somewhere that
(07:27):
hadn't been built on. So suddenly they've become obsessed about
whether any center had been built and where it was.
And then AWS said well we can't tell it for
security reasons, which made sense to me. All I'm interested
in are they here yes? Did they spend some money yes?
Are they employing some people yes? Is the reserves being
operated yes? That was the story, the obsession that the
rest of the media ran with. I've got no idea
(07:47):
what they were thinking of. But yet again the media
distances themselves from regular, ordinary, everyday New Zealanders who were
just looking at that going what the hell are you on.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
About you.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Can't overstate the benefit it is of having these at
a center is as close to you as possible. I mean,
you know they call it the cloud, but an actual
fact it is still of course connected by wires to everything.
And if those wires are really short or your stuff
(08:22):
comes to you really quickly, I think I've explained that
really well.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
What advantage of having super fast intoet is you can
buy stuff from China very very quickly as well?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Mike tell me, is it really Is there really any
financial benefit you by buying from a local retailer and
an exorbitant promise, Well, that's open to interpretation. That's bringing
motive word exorbitant, of course, when that retailer has most
likely purchased the product from China in the first place. Well,
a couple of things there. Firstly, a lot of products
don't come from China obviously in buying. I'm not defending this,
by the way, I said, it's a dead horse, this
whole argument, and you're all texting me and I can
(08:55):
buy a phone case for five cents on Team Intorific.
Buy your phone case, I don't care whatever, But there
are certain things you buy on TMU that are cheap
out of China that you'll pay forever. But it's a
dead horse, isn't it. This idea that we support local
doesn't work. We've been doing it for years. You will
go with price. I will go with price. Price wins
at the end of the day. But to answer your
(09:16):
specific question, yes, if you pay a bit more locally,
it spreads money around the economy instead of sending money offshore,
and that money is paid in tax, and that money
is supporting families, and that money is supporting jobs. So
it does in a sense makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, be real people, unless you're prepared to sell things
and you know, ten different colors instead of just two
different colors in New Zealand, nothing's ever going to change.
And of course you aren't, because that just doesn't make sense,
do you know what I mean? You know, yeah, it's
(09:51):
nice having an orange wash strap, but what if I
want a blue one and a red one and a
white one as well? The re wrap right sad news.
Unfortunately for everyone. Trump is alive, not dead.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Trump he got asked about b Did I heard that?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I get reports? Now you knew? I did an interview
that lasted for about an hour and a half with
somebody and everybody. So that was on one of your competitors.
I did numerous shows and also did a number of
truths long Cress. I think pretty poignant truths.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I was very active over the week and they also
knew I went out to visit some people at the
at the club that I own pretty nearby on the
Potomac River, and now I've been very active actually over
the weekend. I didn't hear that one. That's pretty serious.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So just to confirm in case you're still in doubt
not dead, Thanks very much for that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And he was all over the crime stats from Chicago
for the past few weeks as well, mentioned that people
were being shot with bullets.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I'm not sure if that's did he get to be
that specific. I guess some.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
People might be shot with arrows out of crossbows, probably
not with poisoned darts. There are only so many things
you can be shot with. I think it's mostly bullets. Anyway,
he's going into Chicago, he's going into Baltimore that that
house holds. Apparently, although the National Guard did absolutely nothing
(11:25):
in LA he's claiming that fixed everything there right up
and there's no crime anymore in DC. Even though I
feel like every day Jeanine Pirout has come, we talk
about how many people ever arrested, So if there's no crime,
I'm not sure how they were arresting people, but a
(11:45):
lot of stuff that doesn't make sense. I spend way
too much time looking at and listening to Johnald Trump,
and I would like to not have to do that.
It was really great with everybody thought he was giving
you went away for six days.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Oh well, hi am Glen Hart. That was the rewrap.
Are we back here again tomorrow? Unless I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks, EDB, Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All the best
that's from the mic asking Breakfast on Newstalgs, ed Beat
and a silier paggage IROM Clean Heart And today we're
still talking wind aws, Amazon Web services. Why it wasn't
a biggest story by local or by cheap the hard choice.
(00:49):
And unfortunately Trump is not dead. But before any of
that acts climate policy or either there it's a nut
in policy, really, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Lbert Seymour's call around this power is called meliads to
the list of calls around the powers are called globally,
if you if you could park the emotion, just park
the emotion right and the band wagons associated with the
around saving the planet. The case for twenty fifty no
longer adds up. Take the countries that never signed up
in the first place, Take the countries like America that
are now leaving. Take the future British Tory government who
(01:18):
will bail Take the world's biggest climate alliance for banks.
You won't have read about this. They've suspended their activities
and proposed to vote on scrapping its current structure after
a whole pile of members bailed. Basically, the net zero
Banking Alliance RIGHT stated their commitment was to align their
lending with achieving net zero. Didn't work, didn't even come close.
Since Paris in twenty fifteen, banks globally have provided loans
(01:42):
of six point four trillion US to oil and gas right,
six point four trillion to green projects four point three.
Founder of Reclaimed Finance, a woman called Lucy Pinson, says
the reality is the Banking Alliance never truly challenged the
fossil fuel business models. No kidding on fact, climate is losing.
You can argue forever about why that is and whether
that's good or bad. But if it is fact you
(02:03):
are using, then the Seymour call and the growing actions
of places like America are actually sensible. I mean, just
how much fast? How many cops cops eighteen nineteen, twenty seven,
thirty two, How many of those cops do you want
to continue to failure? How many press releases do you
want asking for us to redouble our efforts knowing it's
never going to happen. How much funding, how many air miles.
How many promises that will never come close to reality?
(02:24):
Do you want to pursue in what simply now is
an obviously vain hope, A well intentioned hope, yes, laudable, yes,
but futile. Maybe it's zero or Paris you could argue
as a guide, an aspiration and let's, you know, give
it a go and see how close we get sort
of thing. Perhaps with no target, the whole thing does
fall apart. But like a lot of nonsensical ideas, this
one has fast become exposed as a bust. If good
(02:47):
intention and hot air was currency, it might be different,
But the facts and the truth tell us it isn't.
Maybe we're all going to Hell in a handcart, a dirty, filthy,
climate induced handcart. Or maybe we aren't. But the juggernaut
of Paris isn't working, never really did. Good clear decisive
decision making would mean we stop the rot, the expense
the energy sooner rather then later.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Oh you can feel it, can't you? You can feel it?
These are real. We just don't care about the environment anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Sweeping, not just America, not just here, sweeping the world.
And you know, for a little while there the people
who wanted to do something about this stuff. We're starting
to make some ground, you know. And yes, some things
were or we thought out or probably weren't having the
effect that they.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Wanted them to. But that's gone now, isn't it. It's
all gone. Oh well, they tried.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So the wind that we had, especially in Auckland, that
caused problems was that historically bad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Not surprisingly, the apology started flowing yesterday they're being issued.
Auckland Airport apologized said sorry for what sounds like a
horror show on Sunday, as everyone decided the wind. Yes
it was windy, but not a lot armingly so, just windy.
But everyone at the airport decided life needed to stop
because of it, people who had landed. Funnily enough, the
wind didn't stopped flying, but once you'd landed, you were
(04:18):
trapped on your plane for hours. Apparently ours literally ours,
because doors became an issue. Doors and wind are a
problem while they are if you decide they are, which
they did. People quite rightly, were apoplectic. The sorry came
with the usual safety first nonsense. Safety first has become
an excuse for fear, hasn't it. They closed Cornwall Park
as we've discussed on the program this week. A whole park,
(04:40):
a massive open space, was closed for wind, and they
made the announcement the day before. The wind hadn't even arrived.
The forecast could in fact have been wrong. Often is,
and yet no, let's announce the matter a day in advance.
The Auckland Harbor Bridge was of course closed on and off.
Given we have had wind before, I thought to myself yesterday,
Given we've had wind before, I mean, wind, I am
told has been around for many years. Now what was
(05:02):
it we did with parks near bridges and bridges generally
in god dare I use the phrase the good old
I lived in Wellington for a decade, the home of wind.
I've landed in proper wind, real wind. But when I did,
I got off the door somehow must have been opened.
As a kid, I never saw a closed park. Wind
didn't seem to be a thing. When did wind become
(05:22):
a thing? When did the fear take grip? Is this COVID?
I mean, did COVID give us license to basically become
feeble to second guess anything? In everything? Orange warnings, red
warnings from the Met Service? You know they're new, right?
You realize that they are invented just recently, why so
we can be more afraid. Can chat GPT tell us
whether the phrase just in case and health and safety
(05:46):
first has seen a gargantuine increase in usage post COVID.
I still at Seattle Airport. Once in a blizzard, you know,
like a proper blizzard, snow, ice and wind. They de
iced the planes, they swept the runways. I took off
for Los Angeles. And here's the thing. The authorities will
never convince us there, right because we hold the common
sense card. We can see fear induced BA a mile off.
(06:09):
So the apologies.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I've referred you to this podcast before if you're a
long time listener, But the Dollar it's loosely an American
history podcast where they take a pretty crazy story from
American history and.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Talk about that. Each episode there's one on.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The Amber Alert System, the Red alert system, the warning
system for terror threats that was put in place after
September eleventh in the United States.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
It's well worth a listen because, yeah, it's an interesting
lesson on government control.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you're and if you're into thinking about that sort
of stuff, ever listen to that. If you'd rather pretend
that sort of stuff isn't happening. Give it a miss,
rewrap right, big data, welcome on in seven and a
half billion bucks. Yes, please Amazon, but apparently the media
don't want it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Again.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I was embarrassed by the New Zealand media yesterday. What
was a bullish, upbeat good day for New Zealand Inc.
I AWS were in, the centers were live, there were jobs,
that was investment. It was good. We became for reasons.
But when I say, well, I'm not part of it, obsessed.
They've found some land out in west Auckland somewhere that
(07:27):
hadn't been built on. So suddenly they've become obsessed about
whether any center had been built and where it was.
And then AWS said well we can't tell it for
security reasons, which made sense to me. All I'm interested
in are they here yes? Did they spend some money yes?
Are they employing some people yes? Is the reserves being
operated yes? That was the story, the obsession that the
rest of the media ran with. I've got no idea
(07:47):
what they were thinking of. But yet again the media
distances themselves from regular, ordinary, everyday New Zealanders who were
just looking at that going what the hell are you on.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
About you.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Can't overstate the benefit it is of having these at
a center is as close to you as possible. I mean,
you know they call it the cloud, but an actual
fact it is still of course connected by wires to everything.
And if those wires are really short or your stuff
(08:22):
comes to you really quickly, I think I've explained that
really well.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
What advantage of having super fast intoet is you can
buy stuff from China very very quickly as well?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Mike tell me, is it really Is there really any
financial benefit you by buying from a local retailer and
an exorbitant promise, Well, that's open to interpretation. That's bringing
motive word exorbitant, of course, when that retailer has most
likely purchased the product from China in the first place. Well,
a couple of things there. Firstly, a lot of products
don't come from China obviously in buying. I'm not defending this,
by the way, I said, it's a dead horse, this
whole argument, and you're all texting me and I can
(08:55):
buy a phone case for five cents on Team Intorific.
Buy your phone case, I don't care whatever, But there
are certain things you buy on TMU that are cheap
out of China that you'll pay forever. But it's a
dead horse, isn't it. This idea that we support local
doesn't work. We've been doing it for years. You will
go with price. I will go with price. Price wins
at the end of the day. But to answer your
(09:16):
specific question, yes, if you pay a bit more locally,
it spreads money around the economy instead of sending money offshore,
and that money is paid in tax, and that money
is supporting families, and that money is supporting jobs. So
it does in a sense makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, be real people, unless you're prepared to sell things
and you know, ten different colors instead of just two
different colors in New Zealand, nothing's ever going to change.
And of course you aren't, because that just doesn't make sense,
do you know what I mean? You know, yeah, it's
(09:51):
nice having an orange wash strap, but what if I
want a blue one and a red one and a
white one as well? The re wrap right sad news.
Unfortunately for everyone. Trump is alive, not dead.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Trump he got asked about b Did I heard that?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I get reports? Now you knew? I did an interview
that lasted for about an hour and a half with
somebody and everybody. So that was on one of your competitors.
I did numerous shows and also did a number of
truths long Cress. I think pretty poignant truths.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I was very active over the week and they also
knew I went out to visit some people at the
at the club that I own pretty nearby on the
Potomac River, and now I've been very active actually over
the weekend. I didn't hear that one. That's pretty serious.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So just to confirm in case you're still in doubt
not dead, Thanks very much for that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And he was all over the crime stats from Chicago
for the past few weeks as well, mentioned that people
were being shot with bullets.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I'm not sure if that's did he get to be
that specific. I guess some.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
People might be shot with arrows out of crossbows, probably
not with poisoned darts. There are only so many things
you can be shot with. I think it's mostly bullets. Anyway,
he's going into Chicago, he's going into Baltimore that that
house holds. Apparently, although the National Guard did absolutely nothing
(11:25):
in LA he's claiming that fixed everything there right up
and there's no crime anymore in DC. Even though I
feel like every day Jeanine Pirout has come, we talk
about how many people ever arrested, So if there's no crime,
I'm not sure how they were arresting people, but a
(11:45):
lot of stuff that doesn't make sense. I spend way
too much time looking at and listening to Johnald Trump,
and I would like to not have to do that.
It was really great with everybody thought he was giving
you went away for six days.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Oh well, hi am Glen Hart. That was the rewrap.
Are we back here again tomorrow? Unless I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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