November 3, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Who Told You Everything Was Terrible?/Hosk VS Home/Why Would Australia Want to Fix Climate Change?/Only Coffee Can Save Me Now/No-one Wants a Cold Botty
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZEDB. Follow
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, Dean, Welcome to the Rewrap of Tuesday, all the
best bits from the mic hosting breakfast on News Talks
EDB and a Sillier package. I'm Glen harton today. ACC
says no to WFH. The Australians aren't doing the whole
saving the planet thing anymore. That's got too hard for them.
(00:46):
Coffee will save us all? And what's an experior ever
done for us? But before any of that, hey, guys,
things are looking up. Admit it. I know you don't
want to, but you're going to have to.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Question for you about us. Are we chronic pessimists? Right?
This is what we've been talking about this morning. Just when,
just when will it be a good time to buy
a large household item? Eh? The A and Z consumer
confidence figures out Friday sunk again, business up eight percent
eight points. Punters down to household items are fridge. We
(01:20):
haven't felt good about buying a fridge in any month
for four years, forty eight long months, month after month.
It's no time to be sticking a bit of Samsung
or sub zero or melee on your house apparently, And
yet how can business feel half decent given the people
they deal with are miserable? And how is it, as
the bank pointed out, that the stats don't actually align
with our mood, spending us up, I repeat up, No,
(01:44):
not by a lot. This isn't the gold rush, but
spending us up. The job adds up. There are more
jobs being advertised. My bet is when the unemployment stats
arrived this week, it'll be five point two, five point three.
But that'll be it. It'll get no worse. The layoffs
are over. There are genuine, tangible and disputable signs in
the economy that things have tuned. Call them whatever you want, flickers,
green shoots, better days, but they are there now. Like
(02:06):
all economies, the tide doesn't rise and bring everyone with it,
but it has it has to bring some. Some must
be feeling better, or good, or God forbid upbeat. Is
there a determination among some too many, that we will
simply not be happy. We refuse to accept the light
at the end of the tunnel. Where once a trip
to the seaside and an ice cream on a sunny
(02:26):
day lifted the spirit. Now we want the whole circus
in a merch bag as well before we dare utter
anything remotely upbeat. I got no doubt, no doubt the
tide has turned. I see too many data points, too
many stats, too many results to feel any other way.
But New Zealand has caught a disease. You see it
in Britain particularly, they got it, they got it bad,
and also a little bit in Australia at the moment,
a refusal to accept good news the way we used to,
(02:47):
where once the possibility was enough to lift a spirit,
now you need a tsunami to bowl you over. The
early bird, as always, will catch the worm on this.
By the time we hit February or March of next
year and a lot of people joined the bandwagon, the
early adopters will have been having a good time for months.
It's only negative if it's actually factually negative, being determined
to be that way as a state of mind, not
(03:10):
a reality.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't know where people got
the idea that we were in this massive hole that
the Labor government had dug us into and proving nearly
impossible to get out of, and that the government wasn't
doing enough fast enough, and I don't know where people
got that idea rerat right. If there's one thing Mike
(03:31):
Husking hates more than the white tangy craybounal, it's people
who work from home.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Now, this acc Union work from home legal case is
a good one, and it became even better after the
Westpac dispute in Australia last week. Now there are two
bits to these sort of cases. The specific, as in
the what's in a contract, what's the wording? What have
you agreed to? What haven't you agreed to? Then the morals,
the big picture, the team spirit, the attitude. Work from
home is a symptom of all that is wrong with productivity,
(03:59):
and very few do productivity as Polly's as this country,
COVID wrecked the workplace. Basically, it allowed for work from
home to be invented, not literally but generally. For a
period it was all you could do. And from that
moment a seed was planted, and the seed was grown
into a mindset. Over a remarkably short period of time,
the idea became a habit became a right, became for
(04:19):
some the norm, and not just that so entrenched did
it become in the minds of some that what was
once not even an idea became something to be outraged about.
It the specter of an ending was even uttered, even
though you had spent the vast majority of your working
life going to the office. No one jumps on and
get out of jail free card quicker than a union. Now.
I don't know what was or wasn't said at ACC,
(04:40):
but what I do know is work from home has
become a gargantuan piss take. Don't get me wrong. I
mean save on the commute, the cost of parking, hopping
out a bus or hoping the buses on time, all
that stuff that makes sense from a selfish point of view.
The Australian case even had the woman moving miles from
town so she could drop her kid off at a
special school they'd selected that said Westpac was the lifestyle choice,
which unquestionably it was. But tough luck, said the court.
(05:03):
The woman won. So maybe ACC are on a hiding
to nothing. Let's see, but specific society, work is a
quid pro quo and taking the mickey, which is what
work from home is now you aren't locked down, isn't
a balanced relationship. It's a material shift born of necessity
and then abused.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And then were spotting to that. Somebody texted and to
point out that Mike doesn't have to work in normal
business hours and drive a normal PEAKR traffic, to which
his response, and I swear to you without any irony
at all, was yeah, but we used to put up
with that before COVID. So although COVID showed us that
(05:45):
there was another way of doing things that was perhaps
better for many people, in some ways, we should go
back to doing it the way we used to before. Then, Actually,
speaking of irony, I've got a classic example we hear.
So I'll let Mike tell you about what's happening with
Australian climate policy at the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Other things to watch closely if you're into your Australian policy.
The Nationals over the weekend told you about this yesterday.
The Nationals over the weekend voted. So you've got your coalition.
So you've got the Libs, got the Nationals. The Nationals
over the weekend, who are the country party? They said,
we're out of this net fifty forget it, twenty to
fifty Paris pledge done dusted, it's no longer part. We're
(06:26):
going to the campaign not campaigning on that. The pressure
is now on Susan Lee and the Libs, who are
sort of the city Conservatives if you like to do
something similar. She is in such dire straits in terms
of leadership and polling. They had that shocking poll out
yesterday that not only is she in the gun for
a leadership, she's now under tremendous pressure for them to
(06:47):
dump the policy as well. So in other words, the
whole coalition no longer campaigns on climate change. And once
again this bloke Andrew hasties back. If she doesn't do
something about it, he's going to have a crack at
the leadership and the whole thing's going to implode. So
watch where this goes over the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's cool that this has really just become an issue
of maintaining your position in the party, you know, making
sure your political career is your future political career is viable,
protecting your party brand. Nobody actually seems to be discussing.
(07:22):
You know, that whole planet's burning up and washing away thing,
that's don't worry about that, and what's going to get
us the boats? And you know who's going to be
in coalition with us, and it was really brought home
and start reality to me as I watched Sky News
(07:44):
Australia this morning and they went from a story about
a surprising and unseasonally violent storm that had Sydney yesterday
causing a lot of damage, and then they went straight
into the story about Susan Lee clinging on to her
leadership and in order to do that your effort, it's
(08:08):
their NETS error policy. And nobody segued into that one
way or the other or made any reference to it.
Oh well, the rewrap right. Coffee. Coffee, coffee, that's what's
going to save us.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So read this in any morning Herald yesterday or the
European Journal for Nutrition if you happen to have a subscription.
Let's be frankly, who doesn't. They looked as longitudinal too,
which is the sort of study a like seven years
everyone was fifty five plus aging study out of Amsterdam. Anyway,
Its fragility is the latest one. So certain frailty traits.
(08:51):
If you're worried about things like unintentional weight loss, weakness, exhaustion,
slow walking speed Glenn, low physical activity, Glenn, I.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Want to get some of that unintentional weight loss happening.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, that's yeah, Mike. I don't know how to explain that.
So you've got some weight game plus slow walking could
be connected, but that I'm on coffee. I'll come back
to another day anyway. Point being, those are the signs
of fragility. Two to four cups a day. Habitual coffee
consumption led to improvement in these areas and may reduce
the risk of fragility in older adults. So you've got
(09:24):
your cardio all of that other stuff. Now they think
that fragility or fragile wise, it can help you. So
the more the more you read, the more you want
to drink coffee, is what it boils down to.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't know that my slow walking. I don't understand
about the slow walking. For me, that's really a choice.
It's not really that I can only walk slow. I
just choose to walk slow because I can't see a less.
I'm in a hurry to get somewhere. Why wouldn't I
just take my time and amble along, skank to the beat?
(09:57):
You know, you know, I drink coffee. That doesn't name
you walk faster there rap. I can't say that I've
ever really felt like i've got a dramatically cold bottom
when getting into my car either.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
This Next Perier thing is increasingly fascinating. Next Perier is
a Chinese company that the Dutch government took over a
couple of weeks ago. Told you about it on the
show at the time. What they do is they make chips,
not the nvidiotype chips, but the chips that make your
car seat go warm or move anyway. There's a massive
supply chain issue. So then got angsty between the US Wingtech,
(10:33):
which is the Chinese company they're the ones who owned
the Next Perier, and the Dutch government. So the car
manufacturers all over the world as we speak are freaking out.
Supply chain hangs in the balance threatens vehicle production all
over the world. Now, the Chinese in the last twenty
four hours of going, oh we'll loosen things up, don't
worry about it. But there's nothing more than that. So
(10:55):
watch this space over.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Are we going to have cold bums?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well that was then, don't you forget. You remember during
COVID when all the car factories stopped they started putting
out cars all of a sudden, that said you can
have a heat seat heater, but you can't and.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So people book to pay a subscription exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, So anyway, watch the space to see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean, I don't know that I've ever owned a
car with leather seats. Do they get cold? I know
they can get hot if you're parted in the sun,
they get cold. I just never Ever, I don't think
I've ever sat down in a car thought oh shit,
my bum's cold. And yet I have been in cars
(11:35):
with seat warmers and thought this is a bit weird.
I'm sure I'm happy about this sensation. Would you rather
have your bum being unexpectedly cold or unexpectedly warm? I
feel like I'd rather have it unexpectedly cold. I feel
like it's unexpectedly cold. It doesn't really take very long
(11:55):
for your bum to, you know, get things up to
bum temperatures. Us think what happens? Why the lone ranger
on this? If I said bum too much? I am
glear and hat I see back here again tomorrow. Probably
list bum Talkrap.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, Dean, Welcome to the Rewrap of Tuesday, all the
best bits from the mic hosting breakfast on News Talks
EDB and a Sillier package. I'm Glen harton today. ACC
says no to WFH. The Australians aren't doing the whole
saving the planet thing anymore. That's got too hard for them.
(00:46):
Coffee will save us all? And what's an experior ever
done for us? But before any of that, hey, guys,
things are looking up. Admit it. I know you don't
want to, but you're going to have to.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Question for you about us. Are we chronic pessimists? Right?
This is what we've been talking about this morning. Just when,
just when will it be a good time to buy
a large household item? Eh? The A and Z consumer
confidence figures out Friday sunk again, business up eight percent
eight points. Punters down to household items are fridge. We
(01:20):
haven't felt good about buying a fridge in any month
for four years, forty eight long months, month after month.
It's no time to be sticking a bit of Samsung
or sub zero or melee on your house apparently, And
yet how can business feel half decent given the people
they deal with are miserable? And how is it, as
the bank pointed out, that the stats don't actually align
with our mood, spending us up, I repeat up, No,
(01:44):
not by a lot. This isn't the gold rush, but
spending us up. The job adds up. There are more
jobs being advertised. My bet is when the unemployment stats
arrived this week, it'll be five point two, five point three.
But that'll be it. It'll get no worse. The layoffs
are over. There are genuine, tangible and disputable signs in
the economy that things have tuned. Call them whatever you want, flickers,
green shoots, better days, but they are there now. Like
(02:06):
all economies, the tide doesn't rise and bring everyone with it,
but it has it has to bring some. Some must
be feeling better, or good, or God forbid upbeat. Is
there a determination among some too many, that we will
simply not be happy. We refuse to accept the light
at the end of the tunnel. Where once a trip
to the seaside and an ice cream on a sunny
(02:26):
day lifted the spirit. Now we want the whole circus
in a merch bag as well before we dare utter
anything remotely upbeat. I got no doubt, no doubt the
tide has turned. I see too many data points, too
many stats, too many results to feel any other way.
But New Zealand has caught a disease. You see it
in Britain particularly, they got it, they got it bad,
and also a little bit in Australia at the moment,
a refusal to accept good news the way we used to,
(02:47):
where once the possibility was enough to lift a spirit,
now you need a tsunami to bowl you over. The
early bird, as always, will catch the worm on this.
By the time we hit February or March of next
year and a lot of people joined the bandwagon, the
early adopters will have been having a good time for months.
It's only negative if it's actually factually negative, being determined
to be that way as a state of mind, not
(03:10):
a reality.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't know where people got
the idea that we were in this massive hole that
the Labor government had dug us into and proving nearly
impossible to get out of, and that the government wasn't
doing enough fast enough, and I don't know where people
got that idea rerat right. If there's one thing Mike
(03:31):
Husking hates more than the white tangy craybounal, it's people
who work from home.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Now, this acc Union work from home legal case is
a good one, and it became even better after the
Westpac dispute in Australia last week. Now there are two
bits to these sort of cases. The specific, as in
the what's in a contract, what's the wording? What have
you agreed to? What haven't you agreed to? Then the morals,
the big picture, the team spirit, the attitude. Work from
home is a symptom of all that is wrong with productivity,
(03:59):
and very few do productivity as Polly's as this country,
COVID wrecked the workplace. Basically, it allowed for work from
home to be invented, not literally but generally. For a
period it was all you could do. And from that
moment a seed was planted, and the seed was grown
into a mindset. Over a remarkably short period of time,
the idea became a habit became a right, became for
(04:19):
some the norm, and not just that so entrenched did
it become in the minds of some that what was
once not even an idea became something to be outraged about.
It the specter of an ending was even uttered, even
though you had spent the vast majority of your working
life going to the office. No one jumps on and
get out of jail free card quicker than a union. Now.
I don't know what was or wasn't said at ACC,
(04:40):
but what I do know is work from home has
become a gargantuan piss take. Don't get me wrong. I
mean save on the commute, the cost of parking, hopping
out a bus or hoping the buses on time, all
that stuff that makes sense from a selfish point of view.
The Australian case even had the woman moving miles from
town so she could drop her kid off at a
special school they'd selected that said Westpac was the lifestyle choice,
which unquestionably it was. But tough luck, said the court.
(05:03):
The woman won. So maybe ACC are on a hiding
to nothing. Let's see, but specific society, work is a
quid pro quo and taking the mickey, which is what
work from home is now you aren't locked down, isn't
a balanced relationship. It's a material shift born of necessity
and then abused.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And then were spotting to that. Somebody texted and to
point out that Mike doesn't have to work in normal
business hours and drive a normal PEAKR traffic, to which
his response, and I swear to you without any irony
at all, was yeah, but we used to put up
with that before COVID. So although COVID showed us that
(05:45):
there was another way of doing things that was perhaps
better for many people, in some ways, we should go
back to doing it the way we used to before. Then, Actually,
speaking of irony, I've got a classic example we hear.
So I'll let Mike tell you about what's happening with
Australian climate policy at the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Other things to watch closely if you're into your Australian policy.
The Nationals over the weekend told you about this yesterday.
The Nationals over the weekend voted. So you've got your coalition.
So you've got the Libs, got the Nationals. The Nationals
over the weekend, who are the country party? They said,
we're out of this net fifty forget it, twenty to
fifty Paris pledge done dusted, it's no longer part. We're
(06:26):
going to the campaign not campaigning on that. The pressure
is now on Susan Lee and the Libs, who are
sort of the city Conservatives if you like to do
something similar. She is in such dire straits in terms
of leadership and polling. They had that shocking poll out
yesterday that not only is she in the gun for
a leadership, she's now under tremendous pressure for them to
(06:47):
dump the policy as well. So in other words, the
whole coalition no longer campaigns on climate change. And once
again this bloke Andrew hasties back. If she doesn't do
something about it, he's going to have a crack at
the leadership and the whole thing's going to implode. So
watch where this goes over the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's cool that this has really just become an issue
of maintaining your position in the party, you know, making
sure your political career is your future political career is viable,
protecting your party brand. Nobody actually seems to be discussing.
(07:22):
You know, that whole planet's burning up and washing away thing,
that's don't worry about that, and what's going to get
us the boats? And you know who's going to be
in coalition with us, and it was really brought home
and start reality to me as I watched Sky News
(07:44):
Australia this morning and they went from a story about
a surprising and unseasonally violent storm that had Sydney yesterday
causing a lot of damage, and then they went straight
into the story about Susan Lee clinging on to her
leadership and in order to do that your effort, it's
(08:08):
their NETS error policy. And nobody segued into that one
way or the other or made any reference to it.
Oh well, the rewrap right. Coffee. Coffee, coffee, that's what's
going to save us.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So read this in any morning Herald yesterday or the
European Journal for Nutrition if you happen to have a subscription.
Let's be frankly, who doesn't. They looked as longitudinal too,
which is the sort of study a like seven years
everyone was fifty five plus aging study out of Amsterdam. Anyway,
Its fragility is the latest one. So certain frailty traits.
(08:51):
If you're worried about things like unintentional weight loss, weakness, exhaustion,
slow walking speed Glenn, low physical activity, Glenn, I.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Want to get some of that unintentional weight loss happening.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, that's yeah, Mike. I don't know how to explain that.
So you've got some weight game plus slow walking could
be connected, but that I'm on coffee. I'll come back
to another day anyway. Point being, those are the signs
of fragility. Two to four cups a day. Habitual coffee
consumption led to improvement in these areas and may reduce
the risk of fragility in older adults. So you've got
(09:24):
your cardio all of that other stuff. Now they think
that fragility or fragile wise, it can help you. So
the more the more you read, the more you want
to drink coffee, is what it boils down to.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't know that my slow walking. I don't understand
about the slow walking. For me, that's really a choice.
It's not really that I can only walk slow. I
just choose to walk slow because I can't see a less.
I'm in a hurry to get somewhere. Why wouldn't I
just take my time and amble along, skank to the beat?
(09:57):
You know, you know, I drink coffee. That doesn't name
you walk faster there rap. I can't say that I've
ever really felt like i've got a dramatically cold bottom
when getting into my car either.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
This Next Perier thing is increasingly fascinating. Next Perier is
a Chinese company that the Dutch government took over a
couple of weeks ago. Told you about it on the
show at the time. What they do is they make chips,
not the nvidiotype chips, but the chips that make your
car seat go warm or move anyway. There's a massive
supply chain issue. So then got angsty between the US Wingtech,
(10:33):
which is the Chinese company they're the ones who owned
the Next Perier, and the Dutch government. So the car
manufacturers all over the world as we speak are freaking out.
Supply chain hangs in the balance threatens vehicle production all
over the world. Now, the Chinese in the last twenty
four hours of going, oh we'll loosen things up, don't
worry about it. But there's nothing more than that. So
(10:55):
watch this space over.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Are we going to have cold bums?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well that was then, don't you forget. You remember during
COVID when all the car factories stopped they started putting
out cars all of a sudden, that said you can
have a heat seat heater, but you can't and.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So people book to pay a subscription exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, So anyway, watch the space to see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean, I don't know that I've ever owned a
car with leather seats. Do they get cold? I know
they can get hot if you're parted in the sun,
they get cold. I just never Ever, I don't think
I've ever sat down in a car thought oh shit,
my bum's cold. And yet I have been in cars
(11:35):
with seat warmers and thought this is a bit weird.
I'm sure I'm happy about this sensation. Would you rather
have your bum being unexpectedly cold or unexpectedly warm? I
feel like I'd rather have it unexpectedly cold. I feel
like it's unexpectedly cold. It doesn't really take very long
(11:55):
for your bum to, you know, get things up to
bum temperatures. Us think what happens? Why the lone ranger
on this? If I said bum too much? I am
glear and hat I see back here again tomorrow. Probably
list bum Talkrap.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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