May 6, 2025 • 15 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) What Is the Scale Exactly?/Comparing Waltz with Stanford/The News Is So Dumb Right Now/Comparing Tesla with All Other Cars
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap ooday there and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday.
All the best, But from the Mic Husking breakfast on
newsbook said, be in a sillier package.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I am being heartened today.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Cybersecurity issues for both.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
The New Zealand government and for the American government. What's
the difference? Mike has had a frustrating warning.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He'll explain why shortly, and then we're going to dig
down into what's happening with car sales and specifically testless sales.
But before any of that, this hay equity bill. Are
what's happening here? Are we trying to fix something that
was a stupid thing in the first place? Are we
(01:07):
trying to something then doesn't need fixing?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How Christine Bartlett was too many a hero if you
remember the name, very likable woman, a caregiver who argued
her work was undervalued and she deserved more. The Labour Party,
who loved fields and are not exactly unfamiliar with the unions,
leapt all laborate and the Equal Pay Act was born.
Downside was how to compare this so called underpaid work
like nursing homes where women dominate, and a comparable profession
(01:33):
dominated by men. They decided at the time comparing mechanics
to rest home workers made sense, even though it didn't,
and it doesn't, and that is why Brook van Velden
has announced pay equity is going to be quite rightly
tipped up and sorted out. Now, whether you can sort
it out sensibly is your next issue. Undercurrent law, the
job must be performed by at least sixty percent of
the same sex. That will rise to seventy percent. Grounds
(01:54):
that lead you to believe that the work is historically
and currently undervalued. You will need evidence for that. They're
looking at comparators. That's your apples and oranges or rest
home workers and mechanics. The trouble with the Bartlet issue
was twofold. One part of the argument was if you
paid people more, you would they said recruit more easily.
Turns out that's wrong. After huge pay rises, rest home
(02:15):
gaps are still a disaster. And two, the bill to
reach this so called equity was two billion dollars, a
lot of money then a lot of money. Now I
wish Van Valden well, But the simple truth is, the
moment you try to engineer something, you tend to strike trouble.
Work is worth what work is worth, no matter who
does it. Some work pays more than other work. It's
(02:35):
based on demand or skills, or sales or revenue or
scarcity or demand or a combination of given, no one
makes anyone work in any given area. You strike extraordinary
complexity in trying to gerrymander it if it turns out
to attract women over men or men over women. It
also singles out just one element of work money as
being the sole reason for that work, and it's not
(02:56):
what we have doesn't work, hasn't sold anything, and was
done for very poor reasons. So reform is good, but
reform to what is a bigger trick than they may realize.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, I'm think I'm with Mike on this and that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's very difficult to compare, even within an industry.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But for instance, what is my job? What do I
do exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And often I'm told that I won't be getting a
pay rise this year, or much of a pay rise,
because all the other producers you know, are only getting
this match and I'm not. I don't consider myself a producer.
There are production elements to my role, but you know,
(03:40):
I also do a lot of technical stuff. I make
these podcasts, So am I a presenter? Then I get
told all if i want to be treated as a presenter,
then I've got to do a completely different contract. And
it's that whole being lumped in with another. I just
want to be treated as me. Don't people just want
to be treated as them? Why are we trying to
compare women with orangers and apples?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You know what I mean? You don't know what I mean. Okay,
let's move on in the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Actually, while we're comparing things, let's compare Mike Waltz with
Erica Stanford.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
See how we go.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Mike Waltz was a story. Erica Stanford was not. Walts
on a platform that he should not have been on,
sent details to people who should not have been in
the loop about planes, where they were leaving, where they
were going, who they were killing. It was a war.
Erica sent emails to herself, not emails about war or
really anything of great substance. The Chinese or the Russians,
(04:35):
if they had intercepted the material would not have been
exercised or interested or held anyone hostage. Erica broke the
Cabinet Manual. Most people have never heard of the Cabinet Manual.
Most people have heard of the Hootie and the Middle
East and the ongoing war. Though how you tell a
story is the key here, because it goes to credibility.
The media has credibility trouble, and this country, the state
television operator in particular, has credibility issues. What Erica did
(04:59):
is not new labour. In fact, my bet, people in
every government since the invention of the computer and email
and the Cabinet Manual have probably sent themselves some work
a piece of small All reportage is probably appropriate. Rules
a rules, and ministers should stick with them. She is
admitted it is not best practice. A couple of others
wandered out yesterday and said, yep, me too. We already
know a long list of the last government did exactly
(05:20):
the same thing. At no point was security breached or
a plane launched, or did anyone die. Context Somewhere within
TB and ZI there are pieces missing, the pieces that
connect their thinking and use judgment to those of us
out here in the real world. Their sense of what
is big and important and in need of a two
part blockbuster is broken in a country, an indeed world,
(05:41):
where any number of large, complex and life changing events
are happening all around us continually. Erica and her admin
isn't one of them, and it is so obviously not
one of them. The fact they think it is should
be of serious concern to those who run the place.
As a fellow media practitioner, I'm increasingly embarrassed at an
industry I've spent my working life in watching it crumble
(06:02):
as judgment, professionalism, and audience understanding goes down the gurgle
to have met.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I have sent things from the wrong email address before
because I had them all loaded up.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Side by side.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I've got three main email addresses I use, and sometimes
it does get a little bit confusing because sometimes I
want to be associated with Mike Hosking with my signature.
It's mostly with my signature that takes my signature as
to which email address I use, because from some of
the email addresses I might asking is mattan Pusher and
(06:42):
from other signatures, there's no mention in my Hosking at all,
And I think you can understand why I wouldn't want
to mention Mike hosking at all. But yeah, you might
have detected a sort of a tinge of frustration in
Mike's voice this morning with some of those those things.
And then he just came right out and said it himself.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's a morning of frustration. I think this is what
I'm concluding. It's a morning frustration for me because it was.
It was like the vaping interview we did earlier on
when a government. If a government wants to tackle vaping,
they know what they can do. They didn't do it
two years ago. What they said is if you've got
an established business, you can keep it open. Then some
guy to university goes and does a study and sees
all the shops that were open are still open. They
(07:22):
where they were two years ago. Guess what, they're still
there now, and they happen to be within a kilometer.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Some of them might even be doing better than they exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
And so so, I mean, you knew what the outcome
was going to be. Catherine where God bless her. I
mean she doesn't have the technical now, so clearly to
understand that technically you can't do what she wants to do.
Do we wish there was that, yes, but there isn't.
So don't start waxing and waning about.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
What we should really do as parent.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You're not solving any problems. So report out and then
the orders to general. I thought he was leaving. So
he announces yesterday a probe and to school lunch is
to do what to write? Yet another report that goes, ah,
somebody found a frozen bun and somebody else got a
chicken bone, and you know, stop wasting my time. Then
(08:15):
there's a report out this morning, and Mike case is
going to hate me because I like Mike Casey because
Mike grows cherries and very good ones. But he's fixated
with electricity and he's behind this report this morning about
all the things that are run by fossil fuels in
this country. And they emailed me incessantly over the last
couple of days. And it's called the machine count Report,
(08:35):
and I thought, oh, yeah, that'll be moderately interesting. How
many machines in this country? I thought, I said to Sam,
you said, didn't I? Sam? I said to you, Sam.
Sam's the producer of the program. I got to introduce him.
Every time I mentioned his name, I said, Sam, I said,
it'll be interesting to know I mean, how many blowers,
leaf blowers, how many line trimmers, how many motor mowers
are there? All that sort of stuff, And the report
doesn't even tell you that for a start. So I
(08:55):
was disappointed in the reports.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Say what posentage are just in your garage?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
No pushmars? There are five hundred and five thousand pushmhers
in this country. That's an interesting stat doesn't take us anywhere,
doesn't solve anything, certainly doesn't keep kids off social media.
But there are five hundred and five thousand push mowers
in this country. That's good. Turns out though, And here's
the sham of the report. What do you think the
bulk of the machines in this country that are powered
by petrol guests are? The ANSWER's cars. So we already
(09:21):
knew that. So telling me there's a couple of push
mowers and a water heat. Do you know the sixty
four boilers in the country run by petrol guests? Whipped
de doo? So the whole report? How long was the report?
Seventy seventy five pages? Hey wait, you go to the
orders at General's office and get on the old fax
machine and print a few of those off and spread
them around the place, pointless waste of time. Nothing's changed.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I share a lot of Mike's frustration this morning. Actually,
like the vaping thing. I mean, you know, make it
only by prescription, Bam you get boughted at bap shots
like they've got in Australia. I don't know why it's
only kids that can't use social media.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
If it's so harmful, it's doing the same harm to
adults as well. Just ban all of it. I mean,
you can actually do that. They did it in America
with TikTok. You can actually literally stop.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
The apps from working, and that should be the threat
if they don't get with the program.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But no, no, it's all the sort of waffle. Yeah,
I'm frustrated too. Re Wrap right, have you bought a
new car lately? No? No, neither have I. Neither is
hardly anybody.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Apparently car registration is not great for April. This is
new cars down four point one percent year on year,
a massive twenty five percent drop on March passengers unchanged
the RV the Wrap four is the leading six hundred
and ninety seven of them. Ranger behind it, followed by
the High Lux are the Rangers inching closer to overtaking
(11:07):
the high light year to date sales or year to
year sales ASX is in there, the Outland of the Celtos,
the Navarre of the high Ace, the MG one hundred
and fifty one. The real story Polst. By the way,
as far as Purev's concerned, Polst lead to the pack.
The real story is Tesla. I'll come back to that.
Tesla in this country has absolutely created which I ask
(11:28):
you the question, if you're a Tesla owner or thinking
of being a Tesla own it, does the elon thing
mean anything to you or not? Because it's real? And
wait till I get to the European numbers. They're even worse.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, we will actually get to there shortly. I mean
I say I haven't bought a new car.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I bought a car that was new to me in December,
and I only just found out recently that I've been
putting the wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Petrol in it.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Apparently it's supposed to be running it on ninety five.
I didn't realize that it might have changed things a bit,
but I've been doing potential damage to it by just
putting the cheap stuff in. It seems it seems like
some kind of conspiracy just to make it's been more on.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Petrol three wrap. Luckily it's a highbred, so I'm not
seeing that for right. We're going to finish up ther
are yea. As I said, let's let's dig a little
bit deeper into the the Tesla problem.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Funny text, he was an impressive role model, not now
this is Elon and whether he bought a Tesla because
of Elon? He was an impressive role model, not now
does that mean you buy a car because of the
role model? So why would you buy it to who's
the role model at Toyota that you bought the car
based on? That doesn't make any sense, Mike. The demise
of Tesla demonstrates the fickle nature of the woke thinking
of the left. Unfortunately, there easily swayed. Well, that assumes
(12:42):
that people who bought Tesla's are left leaning, and you
can't possibly know that. So the market here, as I
gave you the numbers earlier on Phillip, sort of bad.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's bad.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Couple of years and cars, Let's be honest, pollstars leading
the EVS. Tesla's completely crashed in terms of sales in
this country. They made it's a wholly owned subsidiary by
the way of the Netherlands based Tesla International. They made
in the last year one hundred and forty nine million
dollars worth of sales. Is that good? Not really, because
(13:15):
the year before they made three hundred and seventy three So,
in other words, their business is more than halved. In Europe,
it is an absolute disaster. So peck a country. Denmark
sales down sixty seven percent, Netherlands seventy four percent, Portugal
thirty three percent, France fifty nine percent, Sweden eighty one percent.
(13:37):
As a business, you can't soak those numbers up and survive.
So something has to change. And him going back to
the company because he wants to give up on Dosee,
I don't know turns it around? Does it turn it
round in your mind? Or if you if you one
of those people who suddenly thought Tesla was cool because
of Elon, you no longer think he's cool. He doesn't
become cool just because he doesn't work for Doze anymore,
(13:58):
does he?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah? I'm no.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't know that I'd buy a car because I
thought that the person running the company was cool. Necessarily,
I disagree with Mike and there, I would not buy
a car because I think the person's uncall in this case.
And it's actually why I'd never considered a Tesla at
any stage of the process when I was buying a
(14:20):
car recently, because I am not convinced that in you know,
two years time, the company will necessarily even still exist
if the sales are going that badly at the moment,
and he's as random as he is, And why does
that affect the car that I bought, Well, because the
car might not actually keep working. It's a bit like
(14:44):
you know, having a Windows computer, but if Microsoft suddenly
went out of business, you're not getting any more updates,
are you know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
What I mean? So I went with a Ford.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't think it's American Maid, so I would have
had to pay tariffs possibly.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
These days. Lucky I gotten in December quite a confusing world.
I feel like I need a rest after that. I'm
gonna give myself about a twenty four hour rest and
I'll be back with you about this time tomorrow. I see.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap ooday there and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday.
All the best, But from the Mic Husking breakfast on
newsbook said, be in a sillier package.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I am being heartened today.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Cybersecurity issues for both.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
The New Zealand government and for the American government. What's
the difference? Mike has had a frustrating warning.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He'll explain why shortly, and then we're going to dig
down into what's happening with car sales and specifically testless sales.
But before any of that, this hay equity bill. Are
what's happening here? Are we trying to fix something that
was a stupid thing in the first place? Are we
(01:07):
trying to something then doesn't need fixing?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How Christine Bartlett was too many a hero if you
remember the name, very likable woman, a caregiver who argued
her work was undervalued and she deserved more. The Labour Party,
who loved fields and are not exactly unfamiliar with the unions,
leapt all laborate and the Equal Pay Act was born.
Downside was how to compare this so called underpaid work
like nursing homes where women dominate, and a comparable profession
(01:33):
dominated by men. They decided at the time comparing mechanics
to rest home workers made sense, even though it didn't,
and it doesn't, and that is why Brook van Velden
has announced pay equity is going to be quite rightly
tipped up and sorted out. Now, whether you can sort
it out sensibly is your next issue. Undercurrent law, the
job must be performed by at least sixty percent of
the same sex. That will rise to seventy percent. Grounds
(01:54):
that lead you to believe that the work is historically
and currently undervalued. You will need evidence for that. They're
looking at comparators. That's your apples and oranges or rest
home workers and mechanics. The trouble with the Bartlet issue
was twofold. One part of the argument was if you
paid people more, you would they said recruit more easily.
Turns out that's wrong. After huge pay rises, rest home
(02:15):
gaps are still a disaster. And two, the bill to
reach this so called equity was two billion dollars, a
lot of money then a lot of money. Now I
wish Van Valden well, But the simple truth is, the
moment you try to engineer something, you tend to strike trouble.
Work is worth what work is worth, no matter who
does it. Some work pays more than other work. It's
(02:35):
based on demand or skills, or sales or revenue or
scarcity or demand or a combination of given, no one
makes anyone work in any given area. You strike extraordinary
complexity in trying to gerrymander it if it turns out
to attract women over men or men over women. It
also singles out just one element of work money as
being the sole reason for that work, and it's not
(02:56):
what we have doesn't work, hasn't sold anything, and was
done for very poor reasons. So reform is good, but
reform to what is a bigger trick than they may realize.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, I'm think I'm with Mike on this and that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's very difficult to compare, even within an industry.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But for instance, what is my job? What do I
do exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And often I'm told that I won't be getting a
pay rise this year, or much of a pay rise,
because all the other producers you know, are only getting
this match and I'm not. I don't consider myself a producer.
There are production elements to my role, but you know,
(03:40):
I also do a lot of technical stuff. I make
these podcasts, So am I a presenter? Then I get
told all if i want to be treated as a presenter,
then I've got to do a completely different contract. And
it's that whole being lumped in with another. I just
want to be treated as me. Don't people just want
to be treated as them? Why are we trying to
compare women with orangers and apples?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You know what I mean? You don't know what I mean. Okay,
let's move on in the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Actually, while we're comparing things, let's compare Mike Waltz with
Erica Stanford.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
See how we go.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Mike Waltz was a story. Erica Stanford was not. Walts
on a platform that he should not have been on,
sent details to people who should not have been in
the loop about planes, where they were leaving, where they
were going, who they were killing. It was a war.
Erica sent emails to herself, not emails about war or
really anything of great substance. The Chinese or the Russians,
(04:35):
if they had intercepted the material would not have been
exercised or interested or held anyone hostage. Erica broke the
Cabinet Manual. Most people have never heard of the Cabinet Manual.
Most people have heard of the Hootie and the Middle
East and the ongoing war. Though how you tell a
story is the key here, because it goes to credibility.
The media has credibility trouble, and this country, the state
television operator in particular, has credibility issues. What Erica did
(04:59):
is not new labour. In fact, my bet, people in
every government since the invention of the computer and email
and the Cabinet Manual have probably sent themselves some work
a piece of small All reportage is probably appropriate. Rules
a rules, and ministers should stick with them. She is
admitted it is not best practice. A couple of others
wandered out yesterday and said, yep, me too. We already
know a long list of the last government did exactly
(05:20):
the same thing. At no point was security breached or
a plane launched, or did anyone die. Context Somewhere within
TB and ZI there are pieces missing, the pieces that
connect their thinking and use judgment to those of us
out here in the real world. Their sense of what
is big and important and in need of a two
part blockbuster is broken in a country, an indeed world,
(05:41):
where any number of large, complex and life changing events
are happening all around us continually. Erica and her admin
isn't one of them, and it is so obviously not
one of them. The fact they think it is should
be of serious concern to those who run the place.
As a fellow media practitioner, I'm increasingly embarrassed at an
industry I've spent my working life in watching it crumble
(06:02):
as judgment, professionalism, and audience understanding goes down the gurgle
to have met.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I have sent things from the wrong email address before
because I had them all loaded up.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Side by side.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I've got three main email addresses I use, and sometimes
it does get a little bit confusing because sometimes I
want to be associated with Mike Hosking with my signature.
It's mostly with my signature that takes my signature as
to which email address I use, because from some of
the email addresses I might asking is mattan Pusher and
(06:42):
from other signatures, there's no mention in my Hosking at all,
And I think you can understand why I wouldn't want
to mention Mike hosking at all. But yeah, you might
have detected a sort of a tinge of frustration in
Mike's voice this morning with some of those those things.
And then he just came right out and said it himself.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's a morning of frustration. I think this is what
I'm concluding. It's a morning frustration for me because it was.
It was like the vaping interview we did earlier on
when a government. If a government wants to tackle vaping,
they know what they can do. They didn't do it
two years ago. What they said is if you've got
an established business, you can keep it open. Then some
guy to university goes and does a study and sees
all the shops that were open are still open. They
(07:22):
where they were two years ago. Guess what, they're still
there now, and they happen to be within a kilometer.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Some of them might even be doing better than they exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
And so so, I mean, you knew what the outcome
was going to be. Catherine where God bless her. I
mean she doesn't have the technical now, so clearly to
understand that technically you can't do what she wants to do.
Do we wish there was that, yes, but there isn't.
So don't start waxing and waning about.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
What we should really do as parent.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You're not solving any problems. So report out and then
the orders to general. I thought he was leaving. So
he announces yesterday a probe and to school lunch is
to do what to write? Yet another report that goes, ah,
somebody found a frozen bun and somebody else got a
chicken bone, and you know, stop wasting my time. Then
(08:15):
there's a report out this morning, and Mike case is
going to hate me because I like Mike Casey because
Mike grows cherries and very good ones. But he's fixated
with electricity and he's behind this report this morning about
all the things that are run by fossil fuels in
this country. And they emailed me incessantly over the last
couple of days. And it's called the machine count Report,
(08:35):
and I thought, oh, yeah, that'll be moderately interesting. How
many machines in this country? I thought, I said to Sam,
you said, didn't I? Sam? I said to you, Sam.
Sam's the producer of the program. I got to introduce him.
Every time I mentioned his name, I said, Sam, I said,
it'll be interesting to know I mean, how many blowers,
leaf blowers, how many line trimmers, how many motor mowers
are there? All that sort of stuff, And the report
doesn't even tell you that for a start. So I
(08:55):
was disappointed in the reports.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Say what posentage are just in your garage?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
No pushmars? There are five hundred and five thousand pushmhers
in this country. That's an interesting stat doesn't take us anywhere,
doesn't solve anything, certainly doesn't keep kids off social media.
But there are five hundred and five thousand push mowers
in this country. That's good. Turns out though, And here's
the sham of the report. What do you think the
bulk of the machines in this country that are powered
by petrol guests are? The ANSWER's cars. So we already
(09:21):
knew that. So telling me there's a couple of push
mowers and a water heat. Do you know the sixty
four boilers in the country run by petrol guests? Whipped
de doo? So the whole report? How long was the report?
Seventy seventy five pages? Hey wait, you go to the
orders at General's office and get on the old fax
machine and print a few of those off and spread
them around the place, pointless waste of time. Nothing's changed.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I share a lot of Mike's frustration this morning. Actually,
like the vaping thing. I mean, you know, make it
only by prescription, Bam you get boughted at bap shots
like they've got in Australia. I don't know why it's
only kids that can't use social media.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
If it's so harmful, it's doing the same harm to
adults as well. Just ban all of it. I mean,
you can actually do that. They did it in America
with TikTok. You can actually literally stop.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
The apps from working, and that should be the threat
if they don't get with the program.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But no, no, it's all the sort of waffle. Yeah,
I'm frustrated too. Re Wrap right, have you bought a
new car lately? No? No, neither have I. Neither is
hardly anybody.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Apparently car registration is not great for April. This is
new cars down four point one percent year on year,
a massive twenty five percent drop on March passengers unchanged
the RV the Wrap four is the leading six hundred
and ninety seven of them. Ranger behind it, followed by
the High Lux are the Rangers inching closer to overtaking
(11:07):
the high light year to date sales or year to
year sales ASX is in there, the Outland of the Celtos,
the Navarre of the high Ace, the MG one hundred
and fifty one. The real story Polst. By the way,
as far as Purev's concerned, Polst lead to the pack.
The real story is Tesla. I'll come back to that.
Tesla in this country has absolutely created which I ask
(11:28):
you the question, if you're a Tesla owner or thinking
of being a Tesla own it, does the elon thing
mean anything to you or not? Because it's real? And
wait till I get to the European numbers. They're even worse.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, we will actually get to there shortly. I mean
I say I haven't bought a new car.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I bought a car that was new to me in December,
and I only just found out recently that I've been
putting the wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Petrol in it.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Apparently it's supposed to be running it on ninety five.
I didn't realize that it might have changed things a bit,
but I've been doing potential damage to it by just
putting the cheap stuff in. It seems it seems like
some kind of conspiracy just to make it's been more on.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Petrol three wrap. Luckily it's a highbred, so I'm not
seeing that for right. We're going to finish up ther
are yea. As I said, let's let's dig a little
bit deeper into the the Tesla problem.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Funny text, he was an impressive role model, not now
this is Elon and whether he bought a Tesla because
of Elon? He was an impressive role model, not now
does that mean you buy a car because of the
role model? So why would you buy it to who's
the role model at Toyota that you bought the car
based on? That doesn't make any sense, Mike. The demise
of Tesla demonstrates the fickle nature of the woke thinking
of the left. Unfortunately, there easily swayed. Well, that assumes
(12:42):
that people who bought Tesla's are left leaning, and you
can't possibly know that. So the market here, as I
gave you the numbers earlier on Phillip, sort of bad.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's bad.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Couple of years and cars, Let's be honest, pollstars leading
the EVS. Tesla's completely crashed in terms of sales in
this country. They made it's a wholly owned subsidiary by
the way of the Netherlands based Tesla International. They made
in the last year one hundred and forty nine million
dollars worth of sales. Is that good? Not really, because
(13:15):
the year before they made three hundred and seventy three So,
in other words, their business is more than halved. In Europe,
it is an absolute disaster. So peck a country. Denmark
sales down sixty seven percent, Netherlands seventy four percent, Portugal
thirty three percent, France fifty nine percent, Sweden eighty one percent.
(13:37):
As a business, you can't soak those numbers up and survive.
So something has to change. And him going back to
the company because he wants to give up on Dosee,
I don't know turns it around? Does it turn it
round in your mind? Or if you if you one
of those people who suddenly thought Tesla was cool because
of Elon, you no longer think he's cool. He doesn't
become cool just because he doesn't work for Doze anymore,
(13:58):
does he?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah? I'm no.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't know that I'd buy a car because I
thought that the person running the company was cool. Necessarily,
I disagree with Mike and there, I would not buy
a car because I think the person's uncall in this case.
And it's actually why I'd never considered a Tesla at
any stage of the process when I was buying a
(14:20):
car recently, because I am not convinced that in you know,
two years time, the company will necessarily even still exist
if the sales are going that badly at the moment,
and he's as random as he is, And why does
that affect the car that I bought, Well, because the
car might not actually keep working. It's a bit like
(14:44):
you know, having a Windows computer, but if Microsoft suddenly
went out of business, you're not getting any more updates,
are you know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
What I mean? So I went with a Ford.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't think it's American Maid, so I would have
had to pay tariffs possibly.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
These days. Lucky I gotten in December quite a confusing world.
I feel like I need a rest after that. I'm
gonna give myself about a twenty four hour rest and
I'll be back with you about this time tomorrow. I see.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
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