August 4, 2025 • 13 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Why Would You?/More Fleecing Please/Free to Air Is Officially Dead/Only Coal Can Save Us/Has Anybody Asked the Kids?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap I'll get her there. Welcome to the Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All the best bits from the Mic hosting breakfast on
News Talk S EDB brought to you in a sillier package.
I am Glenn Hart, and today we're going to fleece
the tourists for every dollar they've got that we can,
and they will thank us for it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Free to air TV is officially dead.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Only Cole can save us. And social media being banned
for kids. We'll try and figure out why that doesn't
seem to be working, but for any of that, NCAA
is also officially dead, and Mike Hosting is damn pleased
to hear it.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Several bits out of the NCEEA change. Firstly, the New
Zealand Certificate of Education actually sounds like something, doesn't it.
I mean the same way an A tells you something.
The New Zealand Certificate or Advanced Certificate of Education is
a thing you can get your head around, as in
do you have one or do you not? I mean
NCEEA is an acronym under the changes you need to
(01:28):
pass things. How wonderfully old fashioned. If you don't pass,
you don't advance. Therefore, when you do pass, it actually counts.
It means something. Having watched Ncea in action with our
five kids, it has been shocking virtually anyone could get it,
and that was and is never a good thing. Under
the new regime, you take five subjects you need to
pass for nothing too complicated about that. I would have
(01:49):
thought the compulsion around maths and language. I'm actually a
bit sad about. Choice is good. Freedom is good if
you know what you're doing, if you're aiming somewhere specific,
A tailored approach is vastly more appealing. But in a
mass system you are vulnerable to the chances and the
weakest links, and they were always going to take the
joke subjects, the easy gets, and as such wreck any
reputation you might have hoped for run your qualification. The
(02:10):
vocational aspect is years overdue gateway inversions like it's sort
of touched on the trades and specific careers or jobs.
But this fascination, if not obsession, we seem to have
had with university has been ruined us for too many
Being a trade is actually to be admired it's not
a second prize. The snobbishness around a university degree has
got so absurd You've ended up with any number of
(02:31):
bewildered teenagers chasing arts degrees and be comms for no
discernible reason other than that's what they thought they should do.
I'm dreadfully sad though, for the thousands of kids who
have been messed around with with NCEEA. What's its value?
I mean, what weight does a generation of kids place
on a thing that's been binned for some they got
locked down in COVID as well, given a crap qualification.
(02:52):
Thanks for coming, but onwards and upwards. It's a little
bit back to the future. But along with the mad
open classrooms, isn't it fascinating how forward the old days
appear to be?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Mike Husking loves it, apparently, parents love it, principals lover it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Erica Stanford certainly loves it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I just feel like this one group of people we
haven't talked to about what they want.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh yeah, the kids, the students.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Who cares? That'd ask them anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Who cares what they think?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
It's the rewrap, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We would like to have one of these over tourism problems.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I think, get in the water blasters, the water blasters,
the water pistols and start shooting some terroists because there's
too many of them.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
There isn't too many of them in at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But if there were, would we then be allowed to
charge them as much for as we want for them
to walk around our national parks?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I you know what, I've at least partially changed my
mind on charging tourists. So the idea that you can
wander around our conservation of state for free is of
course nuts. And like the various charges that we've placed
on tourists, whether it be at the border or potentially
in a hotel with the big text, the simple truth
is if we got our wreck together in terms of
marketing and seek capacity into the country, people would actually
be happy to pay. Why because everyone pays for everything
(04:14):
all over the world. And if post COVID travelers taught
us anything it's that you can basically rob a tourist blind,
they're still happy to pay. And that's before you get
to the bit where our dollar is so pathetic. Most
people coming here can't believe what they get in exchange.
But as part of the conservation announcement over the weekend.
If you followed that, what we also got was New
Zealand's great problem, the negative reaction. As much as we
(04:36):
love our open spaces and cleaner in national parks, you
have never seen a group of people more determined not
to have anyone else touch them. God forbid, we should
open the place up to a bit more business. We've
seen it for years in the RMA, of course, and
groups like Forest and Bird, who must have spent millions
by now, and lawyers in the Environment Court looking not
to change anything. Are the quiet skies type groups of
(04:58):
why hecking in various other locations around the country determine
never to see a chopper polluting their environs. Ever, again,
there is this default position whereby we're happy to be
left alone like interlopers, intruders or eck tourists, and we
certainly don't want them tramping over our stuff. Far less
ick landing a helicopter and then tramping over our stuff.
(05:19):
We don't like cruise ships either, so we've made them
ruinously expensive to park here so they don't anymore. Yay
win for the greenies. What we do like, though, is
lots more money, lots more hospital beds, much more education,
lots of welfare, lots of generous dollups of free stuff,
all paid for by the money tree and Wellington. The
fact tourism, the conservation estate ships and rich Americans and
(05:42):
EC one thirties pay for a lot of that doesn't
seem to have registered.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, wondering around looking at things.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I don't know that that does create a massive intact
on the environment, does it. I guess we just don't
want to be in that situation where they pooh everywhere
all the time. That always seems to absolent people. I
suppose if we've put in enough toilets, it'll be sweet, right,
So calls for more funding for reality TV shows, which
(06:13):
I can't believe I said that out loud.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Those words felt uncomfortable in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
To be honest, I've sort of got like a face
blindness thing with this story. Every time everybody starts discussing it,
I'd just turn off.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I reckon, you could have driven a truck through her
response to you being on Treasha y. Yeah, I reckon
you probably could. To what she was actually thinking is
she's a television programmer for Way Back She was just
thinking how transformational that would be me appearing on treasure.
That was her programming mind it there, So it wasn't negative.
I saw it as positive. Mike, when's the last time
you watched primetime television?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
For you?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But that's very good point. No one does any well,
well that's not true. People do, which I didn't honestly realize.
And I trust her. She was one of the brightest
brains in broadcasting in this country. It stuns me to
think that. So this goes back to my experience on television.
Back in those days. You would get the biggest program
on television is the new six o'clock news on TV one,
(07:04):
followed by seven sharp, followed by probably Shortland Street, and
after that it falls off a cliff. But you're down
to two hundred thousand people something like that. But I
still assumed, obviously incorrectly, that at two two hundred and
fifty thousand people, you can put together a program and
wrap some advertising, branding and marketing around it that would
at least pay that program's way, if not make money.
(07:25):
Now she's telling us that's not true. Now that's not true.
We're bug it because basically, apart from three programs on
television and occasionally used to get your Dancing with the
Stars and all that sort of stuff. Apart from three
programs on television I the New seven Sharp and Country
Calendar or Shortland Street. Television doesn't make any money anymore.
And if that's the case, we really are truly in trouble. Mike,
(07:48):
I never watched TV, but if you went on Treasure Island,
I would, well, there you go. You see, that's the
sort of ratings pull I have.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Why I don't understand why we're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
If there's no more free to wear TV, why does
that mean that we're in trouble? Aren't we at that
point getting the TV that we actually want because we're
paying for it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We're voting with our pocket. It's we're not being forced
to watch stuff that we're not interested in and a freelity.
And I mean, you know, why hasn't Netflix picked up
what is it?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I can't remember the names of the shows that they
were talking about because I don't care about them enough.
But why why hasn't Netflix bort it or Amazon Prime
Video or you know, Apple TV plus?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Why haven't they snapped those hot items up? I'll tell
you why because they don't think they're going to be
able to make any money out of it. Because nobody
really wants to watch them. They just watch them because they're.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Are the Rewrapp.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I've got a lot more worked up about it than
I thought I was going to.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Let's hear somebody else get worked out now, Mike, he's
talking about how we make power in this country.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Genesis, Meridian and Mercury in Contact have got together and
this is the ultimate ironies of ironies. And I noted this.
I thought about this over the weekend when I heard
the announcement from Megan Woods that she wasn't going to
be standing for her electorate in Christyutch anymore. She was
just happy to be a list MP, and I thought
that that sees something about a person to be blunt.
You know, if you seem to be the prime minister
(09:11):
or the finance minister. I get that, I would. I
think anyone would struggle to be an electric MP plus
a very very senior politician. But when you're in opposition
doing not a lot and you decide the electorate's all
a bit difficult and you just might sit there on
the list for a while. That's got work from home
vibes about it to me anyway, Why did I mention
her well, because she was, of course the person who
(09:32):
cut the power and the oil off in the first place.
So to the announcement yesterday to the market Genesis, Meridian,
Mercury and Contact, they've announced that they club together and
they're just going to buy shed loads of coal for
lord knows how many years to get us through this
miraculous transition that's just any day now going to save
the world and us in winter.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yes, we had today deadly floods and Taiwan and a
weird out of seasoned storm wreaking havoc to essential infrastructure
in Scotland. Still got the heat wave across America and
(10:15):
the wildfires that have caused mas severe pollution in New York.
Wildfires are in Canada. Of course, it's just a brief
summary of some weird stuff that's going on there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I just what could be causing that? Should we do
something about it? Nah, it's too hard, so re wrap certainly.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Something that seems to be too hard is stopping kids
getting on the socials.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Why is it? Why can't we stop them?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
This social media band that we're getting up and running
in December and Australia, which is a joke and it
won't work. And the revelation this morning for the Sydney
Morning Herald and you should read it. There's a good
reason the headline, there's a good reason why the social
media band won't work and the government knows it. And
this is why we're never going to go anywhere with it,
because it's all window dressing. Children will always write meg
Kinowski children, we will always find a way to circumnavigate
(11:10):
your online roadblocks because they know the terrain better than you.
I mean, that's obvious, isn't it. Seventy percent that had
a poll, Seventy percent of those surveyed for the paper
were skeptical the plan would be effective. See, we all know,
we all want some sort of control of social media.
We all want our kids is safe on social media.
That's a given. But you've got to take the next
(11:30):
leap and go can we do it? And the answers no.
So they conducted their own test for this particular article
and just randomly, you know, with no algorithm, no background,
know nothing as to who you were. How long would
it take for weird stuff to pop up on your feet?
So within three minutes, we had a homophobic joke, a
racist AI imaging of a cultural group taking over Sydney,
(11:51):
a movie scene depicting masturbation. They were among the videos
that popped up within three and a half minutes. This feels,
says the writer, like an opportune time to mention that
the average Australian primary schoolers said to rack up six
and a half hours of screen time a day so
left their own devices. Imagine what they can see on
this so called band. And this is the crux of it.
The holes in this legislation are gaping and to me
(12:14):
indicate that while Anthony Albanezi and as ministers may have
no idea how jen elfers really use social media, they
do know one thing. Their band won't work and they
don't particularly care. How bad is that?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, I hate to say, and it's a circular
nature of this podcast that I think we're going to
almost finish up where we started. Has anybody asked the
kids how we should stop them getting on social media
because they might have some ideas given that the are
the ones that seem to be using it, seem to
know how to get around it. It's a bit like
you know when the FBI hires a computer hacker to
(12:51):
stop the other computer hackers with that, rather than ask
chrasty old fuddy duddies who don't really know how this
stuff works properly, trying to just make rules and then
figure out ways to enforce them. That won't work because,
as Mike Brightley point out out there, the kids know
more about.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
It than we do.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I don't know just I mean, don't get me wrong,
I'm the last one who wants to talk to a kid.
But you know, perhaps if if you want to make
them do things, get there buying, get their ideas.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think they do. Some of them have ideas haven't
been told.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Now you're right, it's a stupid idea. Let's just tell
them to shut up and go away. I am lean hart.
I will shut up and go away now, and I'll
be back again at about twenty four hours.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap I'll get her there. Welcome to the Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All the best bits from the Mic hosting breakfast on
News Talk S EDB brought to you in a sillier package.
I am Glenn Hart, and today we're going to fleece
the tourists for every dollar they've got that we can,
and they will thank us for it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Free to air TV is officially dead.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Only Cole can save us. And social media being banned
for kids. We'll try and figure out why that doesn't
seem to be working, but for any of that, NCAA
is also officially dead, and Mike Hosting is damn pleased
to hear it.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Several bits out of the NCEEA change. Firstly, the New
Zealand Certificate of Education actually sounds like something, doesn't it.
I mean the same way an A tells you something.
The New Zealand Certificate or Advanced Certificate of Education is
a thing you can get your head around, as in
do you have one or do you not? I mean
NCEEA is an acronym under the changes you need to
(01:28):
pass things. How wonderfully old fashioned. If you don't pass,
you don't advance. Therefore, when you do pass, it actually counts.
It means something. Having watched Ncea in action with our
five kids, it has been shocking virtually anyone could get it,
and that was and is never a good thing. Under
the new regime, you take five subjects you need to
pass for nothing too complicated about that. I would have
(01:49):
thought the compulsion around maths and language. I'm actually a
bit sad about. Choice is good. Freedom is good if
you know what you're doing, if you're aiming somewhere specific,
A tailored approach is vastly more appealing. But in a
mass system you are vulnerable to the chances and the
weakest links, and they were always going to take the
joke subjects, the easy gets, and as such wreck any
reputation you might have hoped for run your qualification. The
(02:10):
vocational aspect is years overdue gateway inversions like it's sort
of touched on the trades and specific careers or jobs.
But this fascination, if not obsession, we seem to have
had with university has been ruined us for too many
Being a trade is actually to be admired it's not
a second prize. The snobbishness around a university degree has
got so absurd You've ended up with any number of
(02:31):
bewildered teenagers chasing arts degrees and be comms for no
discernible reason other than that's what they thought they should do.
I'm dreadfully sad though, for the thousands of kids who
have been messed around with with NCEEA. What's its value?
I mean, what weight does a generation of kids place
on a thing that's been binned for some they got
locked down in COVID as well, given a crap qualification.
(02:52):
Thanks for coming, but onwards and upwards. It's a little
bit back to the future. But along with the mad
open classrooms, isn't it fascinating how forward the old days
appear to be?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Mike Husking loves it, apparently, parents love it, principals lover it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Erica Stanford certainly loves it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I just feel like this one group of people we
haven't talked to about what they want.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh yeah, the kids, the students.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Who cares? That'd ask them anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Who cares what they think?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
It's the rewrap, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We would like to have one of these over tourism problems.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I think, get in the water blasters, the water blasters,
the water pistols and start shooting some terroists because there's
too many of them.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
There isn't too many of them in at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But if there were, would we then be allowed to
charge them as much for as we want for them
to walk around our national parks?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I you know what, I've at least partially changed my
mind on charging tourists. So the idea that you can
wander around our conservation of state for free is of
course nuts. And like the various charges that we've placed
on tourists, whether it be at the border or potentially
in a hotel with the big text, the simple truth
is if we got our wreck together in terms of
marketing and seek capacity into the country, people would actually
be happy to pay. Why because everyone pays for everything
(04:14):
all over the world. And if post COVID travelers taught
us anything it's that you can basically rob a tourist blind,
they're still happy to pay. And that's before you get
to the bit where our dollar is so pathetic. Most
people coming here can't believe what they get in exchange.
But as part of the conservation announcement over the weekend.
If you followed that, what we also got was New
Zealand's great problem, the negative reaction. As much as we
(04:36):
love our open spaces and cleaner in national parks, you
have never seen a group of people more determined not
to have anyone else touch them. God forbid, we should
open the place up to a bit more business. We've
seen it for years in the RMA, of course, and
groups like Forest and Bird, who must have spent millions
by now, and lawyers in the Environment Court looking not
to change anything. Are the quiet skies type groups of
(04:58):
why hecking in various other locations around the country determine
never to see a chopper polluting their environs. Ever, again,
there is this default position whereby we're happy to be
left alone like interlopers, intruders or eck tourists, and we
certainly don't want them tramping over our stuff. Far less
ick landing a helicopter and then tramping over our stuff.
(05:19):
We don't like cruise ships either, so we've made them
ruinously expensive to park here so they don't anymore. Yay
win for the greenies. What we do like, though, is
lots more money, lots more hospital beds, much more education,
lots of welfare, lots of generous dollups of free stuff,
all paid for by the money tree and Wellington. The
fact tourism, the conservation estate ships and rich Americans and
(05:42):
EC one thirties pay for a lot of that doesn't
seem to have registered.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, wondering around looking at things.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I don't know that that does create a massive intact
on the environment, does it. I guess we just don't
want to be in that situation where they pooh everywhere
all the time. That always seems to absolent people. I
suppose if we've put in enough toilets, it'll be sweet, right,
So calls for more funding for reality TV shows, which
(06:13):
I can't believe I said that out loud.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Those words felt uncomfortable in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
To be honest, I've sort of got like a face
blindness thing with this story. Every time everybody starts discussing it,
I'd just turn off.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I reckon, you could have driven a truck through her
response to you being on Treasha y. Yeah, I reckon
you probably could. To what she was actually thinking is
she's a television programmer for Way Back She was just
thinking how transformational that would be me appearing on treasure.
That was her programming mind it there, So it wasn't negative.
I saw it as positive. Mike, when's the last time
you watched primetime television?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
For you?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But that's very good point. No one does any well,
well that's not true. People do, which I didn't honestly realize.
And I trust her. She was one of the brightest
brains in broadcasting in this country. It stuns me to
think that. So this goes back to my experience on television.
Back in those days. You would get the biggest program
on television is the new six o'clock news on TV one,
(07:04):
followed by seven sharp, followed by probably Shortland Street, and
after that it falls off a cliff. But you're down
to two hundred thousand people something like that. But I
still assumed, obviously incorrectly, that at two two hundred and
fifty thousand people, you can put together a program and
wrap some advertising, branding and marketing around it that would
at least pay that program's way, if not make money.
(07:25):
Now she's telling us that's not true. Now that's not true.
We're bug it because basically, apart from three programs on
television and occasionally used to get your Dancing with the
Stars and all that sort of stuff. Apart from three
programs on television I the New seven Sharp and Country
Calendar or Shortland Street. Television doesn't make any money anymore.
And if that's the case, we really are truly in trouble. Mike,
(07:48):
I never watched TV, but if you went on Treasure Island,
I would, well, there you go. You see, that's the
sort of ratings pull I have.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Why I don't understand why we're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
If there's no more free to wear TV, why does
that mean that we're in trouble? Aren't we at that
point getting the TV that we actually want because we're
paying for it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We're voting with our pocket. It's we're not being forced
to watch stuff that we're not interested in and a freelity.
And I mean, you know, why hasn't Netflix picked up
what is it?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I can't remember the names of the shows that they
were talking about because I don't care about them enough.
But why why hasn't Netflix bort it or Amazon Prime
Video or you know, Apple TV plus?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Why haven't they snapped those hot items up? I'll tell
you why because they don't think they're going to be
able to make any money out of it. Because nobody
really wants to watch them. They just watch them because they're.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Are the Rewrapp.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I've got a lot more worked up about it than
I thought I was going to.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Let's hear somebody else get worked out now, Mike, he's
talking about how we make power in this country.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Genesis, Meridian and Mercury in Contact have got together and
this is the ultimate ironies of ironies. And I noted this.
I thought about this over the weekend when I heard
the announcement from Megan Woods that she wasn't going to
be standing for her electorate in Christyutch anymore. She was
just happy to be a list MP, and I thought
that that sees something about a person to be blunt.
You know, if you seem to be the prime minister
(09:11):
or the finance minister. I get that, I would. I
think anyone would struggle to be an electric MP plus
a very very senior politician. But when you're in opposition
doing not a lot and you decide the electorate's all
a bit difficult and you just might sit there on
the list for a while. That's got work from home
vibes about it to me anyway, Why did I mention
her well, because she was, of course the person who
(09:32):
cut the power and the oil off in the first place.
So to the announcement yesterday to the market Genesis, Meridian,
Mercury and Contact, they've announced that they club together and
they're just going to buy shed loads of coal for
lord knows how many years to get us through this
miraculous transition that's just any day now going to save
the world and us in winter.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yes, we had today deadly floods and Taiwan and a
weird out of seasoned storm wreaking havoc to essential infrastructure
in Scotland. Still got the heat wave across America and
(10:15):
the wildfires that have caused mas severe pollution in New York.
Wildfires are in Canada. Of course, it's just a brief
summary of some weird stuff that's going on there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I just what could be causing that? Should we do
something about it? Nah, it's too hard, so re wrap certainly.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Something that seems to be too hard is stopping kids
getting on the socials.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Why is it? Why can't we stop them?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
This social media band that we're getting up and running
in December and Australia, which is a joke and it
won't work. And the revelation this morning for the Sydney
Morning Herald and you should read it. There's a good
reason the headline, there's a good reason why the social
media band won't work and the government knows it. And
this is why we're never going to go anywhere with it,
because it's all window dressing. Children will always write meg
Kinowski children, we will always find a way to circumnavigate
(11:10):
your online roadblocks because they know the terrain better than you.
I mean, that's obvious, isn't it. Seventy percent that had
a poll, Seventy percent of those surveyed for the paper
were skeptical the plan would be effective. See, we all know,
we all want some sort of control of social media.
We all want our kids is safe on social media.
That's a given. But you've got to take the next
(11:30):
leap and go can we do it? And the answers no.
So they conducted their own test for this particular article
and just randomly, you know, with no algorithm, no background,
know nothing as to who you were. How long would
it take for weird stuff to pop up on your feet?
So within three minutes, we had a homophobic joke, a
racist AI imaging of a cultural group taking over Sydney,
(11:51):
a movie scene depicting masturbation. They were among the videos
that popped up within three and a half minutes. This feels,
says the writer, like an opportune time to mention that
the average Australian primary schoolers said to rack up six
and a half hours of screen time a day so
left their own devices. Imagine what they can see on
this so called band. And this is the crux of it.
The holes in this legislation are gaping and to me
(12:14):
indicate that while Anthony Albanezi and as ministers may have
no idea how jen elfers really use social media, they
do know one thing. Their band won't work and they
don't particularly care. How bad is that?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, I hate to say, and it's a circular
nature of this podcast that I think we're going to
almost finish up where we started. Has anybody asked the
kids how we should stop them getting on social media
because they might have some ideas given that the are
the ones that seem to be using it, seem to
know how to get around it. It's a bit like
you know when the FBI hires a computer hacker to
(12:51):
stop the other computer hackers with that, rather than ask
chrasty old fuddy duddies who don't really know how this
stuff works properly, trying to just make rules and then
figure out ways to enforce them. That won't work because,
as Mike Brightley point out out there, the kids know
more about.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
It than we do.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I don't know just I mean, don't get me wrong,
I'm the last one who wants to talk to a kid.
But you know, perhaps if if you want to make
them do things, get there buying, get their ideas.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think they do. Some of them have ideas haven't
been told.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Now you're right, it's a stupid idea. Let's just tell
them to shut up and go away. I am lean hart.
I will shut up and go away now, and I'll
be back again at about twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
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