July 15, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) The Line Between Theory and Actual Conspiracies/Taking On the U.N./We're Coming for Your Doctors/They're Coming for Beyonce
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap Okay and welcome to the rewrap all the best,
but's from the Micasting Breakfast guest starring Heatherdoop of c
Allen in a Silia package. I am Killian Hart and
today we are going to see who's going to win
between David Seymour and the UN tracking foreign doctors to
(00:50):
our country? Are we targeting the right country? Beyonce's had
some stuff nicked, quite important stuff. But before any of that,
the Epstein files not stolen, just redacted and classified. And
a lot of Trump's voters want to have a look.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So who would ever have thought that the Jeffrey Epstein
conspiracy would be one of Trump's biggest problems, But it is.
The megabase is furious hot, and many of them believe
the conspiracy that Epstein was really murdered. They want to
see the files. Trump promised to release the files. Now
he's not going to do that, but then he compromised
or released the CCTV footage outside Epstein's sell to show
that nothing had happened except the Internet spotted there was
(01:34):
a minute missing. The thing jumped from eleven fifty eight
to midnight. That all kicked off the conspiracy theory again.
There were reports that two of his appointments, this is
Trump's appointments, were thinking of quitting the FBI and protest.
There were calls for the Attorney general to be fired.
And now the conspiracy, if anything, has actually spread even
wider and got even more people interested. So the latest
(01:55):
is now that Donald Trump is considering not backing down
and releasing the files, but removing redactions from already released files. Now,
if this surprises you that this has become such a
huge problem for Donald Trump, angering his vote and then
grabbing headlines for days now, it actually shouldn't when you
think about it, because this conspiracy theory cuts to the
very core of what Trump is all about. The Epstein
(02:17):
story is a story, to the conspiracists, of a cover
up of the establishment looking after each other by being
dishonest to the public. Trump is supposed to be the
opposite of that, right, He's supposed to be the anti establishment.
He's supposed to be there to drain the swamp. So
when he gets into power and doesn't blow the lid
off the cover up. Then he becomes the establishment along
with everybody else. He becomes the swamp. And that is
(02:38):
why it is so damaging to him, because to his base,
the man who is supposed to be the anti politician
is now just like every other politician, going back on
his word and helping with the cover up. What has
actually been remarkable is that for a man who usually
has his finger on the pulse of what people are thinking,
he can't see that. Or maybe he can see that.
Maybe that's why he's now considering the redactions. But who
(03:00):
would have thought you cannot silence a conspiracy by simply
saying there's nothing to see here. And who would have
thought that Epstein, of all people, the dead guy, would
be such a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, there's a fine line between a conspiracy and a
conspiracy theory, isn't there? Son? And I think that line
is called what do they call it? Proof?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So rewrap?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And it turns out that the people asking for proof
might actually be quite close to Trump himself, that they
might even be related.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Now, Trump's daughter in law. If you thought the Epstein
thing was getting a bit hairy for him, his daughter
in law, Lara Trump, is now called on the White
House to demonstrate more transparency on the Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I do think that there needs to be more transparency
on this, and I think that that will happen. I mean, look,
I don't know what truly exists there, but I know
that this is something that's important to the president as well.
He doesn't want transparency on all these fronts. I believe
they'll probably trying to get out sooner rather than later
because they hear it.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And they understand it.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
So hopefully we see that happen soon in the Lenner
and that I guess that would be my lace. But
to everybody out there who's all worked up about it,
there's no great plot to keep.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
This information away then I'm aware of.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I do just believe that maybe it's been slow roll
for reasons that hopefully we understand down the line, and
I think we're probably gonna get more transparency on the fairs.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, it always works when you tell the conspiracy
theorists that there's nothing, they're not hiding anything. That always
works to quell the conspiracy theory. Trump is done the
usual thing where he stands outside the helicopter shouting about
Pam Bondi and the Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Again, what did she tell you about the you in specifically,
do she tell you at all that your name up here?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And no, No, she's uh, she's given us just a
very quick briefing. And in terms of the credibility of
the different things that they've seen, and I would say that,
you know, these files were made up by Komi, they
were made up by Obama, they were made up by
the Biden you know. Uh, we and we went through
(05:00):
years of that with the Russia, Russia Russia hopes with
all of the different things that we had to go through.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We've gone through years of it. But she's handled very
well and it's.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Going to be up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible,
she should release.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, anyway, we'll see how that goes for him saying
she's doing very well.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So yeah, I mean, I mean just the other day
he was saying, why are you asking me about this?
You know, get out of here. And now he's gone
to uh, you know, Jorney general's having a look at it.
I'm sure she'll have something to show you if there's
something to see. Tricky situation for Trump. He right, So
(05:39):
my host had a go at the UN I think
that's what she was doing today, she was either having
a go at the UN or defending David Seymour or both.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm as interested as anyone about this mystery as to
where the David Seamore is in fact in trouble over
the letter that he's sent to the UN. Whether the
media reporting is right that the Prime Minister gave David
a telling off, or whether David is right that it
was actually just a nice chat. Whether the media reporting
is right that Winston has crossed with David for sending
the letter, where the David's right that Winston is not
crossing basically going to send the same letter again, Or
(06:09):
whether the Winston is right when he says that's not
true what David said. I'm as interested as you are
and what the truth actually is. But regardless of whether
David is in trouble, can we just agree amongst ourselves
that he was right when he gave the UN a
slap down and called the letter presumptive, condescending and wholly misplaced.
What they did was they piped up on the regulatory
Standards Bill, this is the UN and they sent a
(06:30):
letter to us right which started the chain of correspondence
and what the UN special Rapperteur on the rights of
Indigenous people got wrong. Especially is his assertion that the
bill fails to uphold indigenous rights guaranteed in the treaty,
including partnership. There is no partnership guarantee in the treaty.
It was a judge's comment that was made in the midatees.
(06:52):
It was subsequently misinterpreted to now mean partnership. He apparently
this is the Rapperteur apparently also claims that Mary have
been excluded from consultation, which again is not true because
we've just had a full week of consultation through Select
Committee hearings and that included submissions from Yeah you guessed it, MARII.
Both of these facts could have been discovered with a
(07:12):
simple Google search. Unfortunately for the UN they didn't do it.
And it just makes the case again for the thing
that's being the UN being scaled back to what it
was originally set up for, which was preventing World War
three and getting out of everything else, getting out of
climate change, getting out of indigenous rights, getting out of
advocating for things like wealth taxes. It has gone the
UN way beyond its original remit. It is now too
(07:35):
political and frankly not very good at what it's doing.
Just look at the fact that it's been harping on
about climate change forever and have we stopped it. No,
climate change is just accelerating. So thank you to David
Seymour for giving the UN a well overdue slapdown, even
if he wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm just glad that nobody said something they would have regretted.
I'm just thinking back to a previous host of nine
who said something about coffee and naan once and that
didn't work out for anybody. I always just get a
little bit this when my host starts, yeah, taking a
(08:13):
dig at the UN or the leader of it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The rewrap right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So we are changing the rules to make it easier
for doctors from certain countries to come and do their
doctoring here because we need some doctors and we need
them fast. I'm not sure that all the countries we're
targeting other necessarily the right countries. Though.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
On the doctors, I don't know if they're going to
have much luck fast tracking these doctors, these doctors from Luxembourg,
for example, I mean, you know, I applaud us for
having ambition, but how many doctors are you going to
attract from Luxembourg which has a population of six hundred
and sixty thousand people and where a GP earns a
(09:00):
roundabout between two hundred and forty and three hundred and
twenty thousand dollars. I don't know about you, but that
feels like a particularly sweet deal to me specialists three
hundred and forty to four hundred and forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Maybe we could target Greenland because obviously people will want
to get out of Greenland if Trump takes it over.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Spit all a bit more. You know, why stop at Greenland?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why not? Well, you know, although I'm not I'm wondering
with a population of fifty six thousand whether they've got
that many speed doctors there, But they only start on
one hundred thousand, so yeah, they might be ready for
a change.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Think that's right for us to be able to get
some doctors from there. Anyway, you know, good luck to
us on that one.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I mean Luxembourg. That was my first thought on how many,
how big? How many people live in Luxembourg? So you
know there's here They said there's about five hundred and
sixty five hundred and sixty six thousand people. How many
speared doctors have they got the rerat.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Don't get me.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Wrong, I'm quite happy to be treated by somebody from Luxembourg.
I'd like to find out more about it. We're going
to finish up here with some hard news for Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now, somebody has got their hands on unreleased Beyond Say
music to know. They may not even know that they've
got it, but they do. What happened is last week,
July the eighth, she and her crew were turned up
in Atlanta because they're doing some shows there, and it
was a couple of days before her first show in Atlanta.
There was a theft from a vehicle. It was a
jep wagoneer driven by her choreographer and one of her dances.
(10:26):
They had parked up outside of food Hall, gone inside,
obviously had a bit of a snack or something. When
they came back, the vehicle's rear window had been smashed
and two suitcases were missing. Inside. The suitcases were heart drives.
On the heart drives were unreleased Beyond Say songs and
also show plans and passed in future set lists for
her tour and some footage plans and stuff like that.
(10:48):
But the most important thing is there is music on
there from Beyonce. Ain't nobody heard yet, and she's quite
She's quite private about the stuff and really guards her
stuff really really tightly, as you can well imagine. Anyway,
the cops then used and this is important. Inside the
bags were designer clothes, a laptop, and Apple airport pods,
and the cops used the laptop in the Apple air pods.
(11:11):
It's got like a tracking thing on it, you know,
like find my phone type stuff. Use that found out
where the stuff is. They've a should an arrest warrant.
They won't say who the suspect is, but by the
looks of things, they know who's got the music, even
if the person who's got the music doesn't realize they've
got the music.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Feel like people are out to get Beyonce because we
had her flying car, you know, fall down when she
was flying around the Who's Houston Stadium the other day,
didn't we Now this does she need? Does she need
to do like a Kevin Costa, you know, Whitney Houston
bodyguard scenario? Get that going. I'm just starting to worry
(11:47):
about her a little bit. I am I'm not volunteering.
I'm just saying somebody should step up. Probably not Kevin Costner.
I don't know that he's that agile for bodyguarding duties lately,
but anyway, I am Glen Hart. That was the rewrap.
We'll be back with more Heather tomorrows even.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
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you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap Okay and welcome to the rewrap all the best,
but's from the Micasting Breakfast guest starring Heatherdoop of c
Allen in a Silia package. I am Killian Hart and
today we are going to see who's going to win
between David Seymour and the UN tracking foreign doctors to
(00:50):
our country? Are we targeting the right country? Beyonce's had
some stuff nicked, quite important stuff. But before any of that,
the Epstein files not stolen, just redacted and classified. And
a lot of Trump's voters want to have a look.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So who would ever have thought that the Jeffrey Epstein
conspiracy would be one of Trump's biggest problems, But it is.
The megabase is furious hot, and many of them believe
the conspiracy that Epstein was really murdered. They want to
see the files. Trump promised to release the files. Now
he's not going to do that, but then he compromised
or released the CCTV footage outside Epstein's sell to show
that nothing had happened except the Internet spotted there was
(01:34):
a minute missing. The thing jumped from eleven fifty eight
to midnight. That all kicked off the conspiracy theory again.
There were reports that two of his appointments, this is
Trump's appointments, were thinking of quitting the FBI and protest.
There were calls for the Attorney general to be fired.
And now the conspiracy, if anything, has actually spread even
wider and got even more people interested. So the latest
(01:55):
is now that Donald Trump is considering not backing down
and releasing the files, but removing redactions from already released files. Now,
if this surprises you that this has become such a
huge problem for Donald Trump, angering his vote and then
grabbing headlines for days now, it actually shouldn't when you
think about it, because this conspiracy theory cuts to the
very core of what Trump is all about. The Epstein
(02:17):
story is a story, to the conspiracists, of a cover
up of the establishment looking after each other by being
dishonest to the public. Trump is supposed to be the
opposite of that, right, He's supposed to be the anti establishment.
He's supposed to be there to drain the swamp. So
when he gets into power and doesn't blow the lid
off the cover up. Then he becomes the establishment along
with everybody else. He becomes the swamp. And that is
(02:38):
why it is so damaging to him, because to his base,
the man who is supposed to be the anti politician
is now just like every other politician, going back on
his word and helping with the cover up. What has
actually been remarkable is that for a man who usually
has his finger on the pulse of what people are thinking,
he can't see that. Or maybe he can see that.
Maybe that's why he's now considering the redactions. But who
(03:00):
would have thought you cannot silence a conspiracy by simply
saying there's nothing to see here. And who would have
thought that Epstein, of all people, the dead guy, would
be such a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, there's a fine line between a conspiracy and a
conspiracy theory, isn't there? Son? And I think that line
is called what do they call it? Proof?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So rewrap?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And it turns out that the people asking for proof
might actually be quite close to Trump himself, that they
might even be related.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Now, Trump's daughter in law. If you thought the Epstein
thing was getting a bit hairy for him, his daughter
in law, Lara Trump, is now called on the White
House to demonstrate more transparency on the Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I do think that there needs to be more transparency
on this, and I think that that will happen. I mean, look,
I don't know what truly exists there, but I know
that this is something that's important to the president as well.
He doesn't want transparency on all these fronts. I believe
they'll probably trying to get out sooner rather than later
because they hear it.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And they understand it.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
So hopefully we see that happen soon in the Lenner
and that I guess that would be my lace. But
to everybody out there who's all worked up about it,
there's no great plot to keep.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
This information away then I'm aware of.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I do just believe that maybe it's been slow roll
for reasons that hopefully we understand down the line, and
I think we're probably gonna get more transparency on the fairs.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, it always works when you tell the conspiracy
theorists that there's nothing, they're not hiding anything. That always
works to quell the conspiracy theory. Trump is done the
usual thing where he stands outside the helicopter shouting about
Pam Bondi and the Epstein files.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Again, what did she tell you about the you in specifically,
do she tell you at all that your name up here?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And no, No, she's uh, she's given us just a
very quick briefing. And in terms of the credibility of
the different things that they've seen, and I would say that,
you know, these files were made up by Komi, they
were made up by Obama, they were made up by
the Biden you know. Uh, we and we went through
(05:00):
years of that with the Russia, Russia Russia hopes with
all of the different things that we had to go through.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We've gone through years of it. But she's handled very
well and it's.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Going to be up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible,
she should release.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, anyway, we'll see how that goes for him saying
she's doing very well.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So yeah, I mean, I mean just the other day
he was saying, why are you asking me about this?
You know, get out of here. And now he's gone
to uh, you know, Jorney general's having a look at it.
I'm sure she'll have something to show you if there's
something to see. Tricky situation for Trump. He right, So
(05:39):
my host had a go at the UN I think
that's what she was doing today, she was either having
a go at the UN or defending David Seymour or both.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm as interested as anyone about this mystery as to
where the David Seamore is in fact in trouble over
the letter that he's sent to the UN. Whether the
media reporting is right that the Prime Minister gave David
a telling off, or whether David is right that it
was actually just a nice chat. Whether the media reporting
is right that Winston has crossed with David for sending
the letter, where the David's right that Winston is not
crossing basically going to send the same letter again, Or
(06:09):
whether the Winston is right when he says that's not
true what David said. I'm as interested as you are
and what the truth actually is. But regardless of whether
David is in trouble, can we just agree amongst ourselves
that he was right when he gave the UN a
slap down and called the letter presumptive, condescending and wholly misplaced.
What they did was they piped up on the regulatory
Standards Bill, this is the UN and they sent a
(06:30):
letter to us right which started the chain of correspondence
and what the UN special Rapperteur on the rights of
Indigenous people got wrong. Especially is his assertion that the
bill fails to uphold indigenous rights guaranteed in the treaty,
including partnership. There is no partnership guarantee in the treaty.
It was a judge's comment that was made in the midatees.
(06:52):
It was subsequently misinterpreted to now mean partnership. He apparently
this is the Rapperteur apparently also claims that Mary have
been excluded from consultation, which again is not true because
we've just had a full week of consultation through Select
Committee hearings and that included submissions from Yeah you guessed it, MARII.
Both of these facts could have been discovered with a
(07:12):
simple Google search. Unfortunately for the UN they didn't do it.
And it just makes the case again for the thing
that's being the UN being scaled back to what it
was originally set up for, which was preventing World War
three and getting out of everything else, getting out of
climate change, getting out of indigenous rights, getting out of
advocating for things like wealth taxes. It has gone the
UN way beyond its original remit. It is now too
(07:35):
political and frankly not very good at what it's doing.
Just look at the fact that it's been harping on
about climate change forever and have we stopped it. No,
climate change is just accelerating. So thank you to David
Seymour for giving the UN a well overdue slapdown, even
if he wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm just glad that nobody said something they would have regretted.
I'm just thinking back to a previous host of nine
who said something about coffee and naan once and that
didn't work out for anybody. I always just get a
little bit this when my host starts, yeah, taking a
(08:13):
dig at the UN or the leader of it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The rewrap right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So we are changing the rules to make it easier
for doctors from certain countries to come and do their
doctoring here because we need some doctors and we need
them fast. I'm not sure that all the countries we're
targeting other necessarily the right countries. Though.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
On the doctors, I don't know if they're going to
have much luck fast tracking these doctors, these doctors from Luxembourg,
for example, I mean, you know, I applaud us for
having ambition, but how many doctors are you going to
attract from Luxembourg which has a population of six hundred
and sixty thousand people and where a GP earns a
(09:00):
roundabout between two hundred and forty and three hundred and
twenty thousand dollars. I don't know about you, but that
feels like a particularly sweet deal to me specialists three
hundred and forty to four hundred and forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Maybe we could target Greenland because obviously people will want
to get out of Greenland if Trump takes it over.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Spit all a bit more. You know, why stop at Greenland?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why not? Well, you know, although I'm not I'm wondering
with a population of fifty six thousand whether they've got
that many speed doctors there, But they only start on
one hundred thousand, so yeah, they might be ready for
a change.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Think that's right for us to be able to get
some doctors from there. Anyway, you know, good luck to
us on that one.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I mean Luxembourg. That was my first thought on how many,
how big? How many people live in Luxembourg? So you
know there's here They said there's about five hundred and
sixty five hundred and sixty six thousand people. How many
speared doctors have they got the rerat.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Don't get me.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Wrong, I'm quite happy to be treated by somebody from Luxembourg.
I'd like to find out more about it. We're going
to finish up here with some hard news for Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now, somebody has got their hands on unreleased Beyond Say
music to know. They may not even know that they've
got it, but they do. What happened is last week,
July the eighth, she and her crew were turned up
in Atlanta because they're doing some shows there, and it
was a couple of days before her first show in Atlanta.
There was a theft from a vehicle. It was a
jep wagoneer driven by her choreographer and one of her dances.
(10:26):
They had parked up outside of food Hall, gone inside,
obviously had a bit of a snack or something. When
they came back, the vehicle's rear window had been smashed
and two suitcases were missing. Inside. The suitcases were heart drives.
On the heart drives were unreleased Beyond Say songs and
also show plans and passed in future set lists for
her tour and some footage plans and stuff like that.
(10:48):
But the most important thing is there is music on
there from Beyonce. Ain't nobody heard yet, and she's quite
She's quite private about the stuff and really guards her
stuff really really tightly, as you can well imagine. Anyway,
the cops then used and this is important. Inside the
bags were designer clothes, a laptop, and Apple airport pods,
and the cops used the laptop in the Apple air pods.
(11:11):
It's got like a tracking thing on it, you know,
like find my phone type stuff. Use that found out
where the stuff is. They've a should an arrest warrant.
They won't say who the suspect is, but by the
looks of things, they know who's got the music, even
if the person who's got the music doesn't realize they've
got the music.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Feel like people are out to get Beyonce because we
had her flying car, you know, fall down when she
was flying around the Who's Houston Stadium the other day,
didn't we Now this does she need? Does she need
to do like a Kevin Costa, you know, Whitney Houston
bodyguard scenario? Get that going. I'm just starting to worry
(11:47):
about her a little bit. I am I'm not volunteering.
I'm just saying somebody should step up. Probably not Kevin Costner.
I don't know that he's that agile for bodyguarding duties lately,
but anyway, I am Glen Hart. That was the rewrap.
We'll be back with more Heather tomorrows even.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
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