April 10, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Let's Flag It/Mark the Week/EV Myths Busted/They Finally Got Back to Us
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZIB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there, welcome to the Rewrap for Friday. All the best,
but it's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on newsbalok' s
EDB and a Sillier package. I am Glen Hard and today, Yes,
the Wide Tongue Tribunal. I think this is Mike Hosking's
favorite organization. We've got some reports back on that. Well
mark the week, because well and behold it's Friday. That's
what we do. We'll bust some more ev myths and
(00:50):
the Ministry of Transport finally gets back to us. But
before any of that, the Treaty Principal's Bill is at
last no more.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The TMP, Mike ll The TPM itself is not the visive.
It's our inability to have a conversation and hear each other.
That's the VISIB couldn't agree more. That sums it up beautifully.
I watched a little bit yesterday. I watched Thomas Cogland
does a good piece in the Herald this morning, works
through the various people who spoke well and didn't speak
where he defends Willie Jackson. I'm this busy. I don't
(01:18):
defend Willie Jackson. He's a loud mouth, he's an attention seeker.
He speaks well, but that's his particular skill. But getting
kicked out of the house again, I mean, that's just boring.
Seymour spoke well, he defended it well. But here's what
I've learned out of this whole debate. One, you're right,
the text is right. We're not up for it. We're
not sophisticated enough or adult enough. There are too many
people on the fringes ago mental and Two, irrefutably, when
(01:43):
the experts came together to give their evidence, they couldn't agree,
which I would have thought is the beginning of the
middle and the end of Seymour's argument. In other words,
he's right.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Or just some of us pass it over, it done
with it. So we've got a bunch of people who
aren't out to it, a bunch of people who wouldn't
mind talking about it, and then people like me who
I just don't care.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We wrap it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I know I'm supposed to care about these things. I
know I'm supposed to care about things like the white
tongue drive you.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And a question for you, is it gaul? Is it
a cheek? Is it comedic? The White Tangy Tribunal has
been reviewed and the reviewers out it recommends it needs
more people and more money. It is, says the review strained.
They are, of course technically corrected. Is straining. The White
Tangy Tribunal is busy. It is busy with urgent and
we use that word loosely with any number of gripes
(02:28):
and grievances around the general state and status of Mury,
or more accurately, a small selection of Murray who have
seen for years, nay decades now, the Tribunal is an
almost endless source of respite in their never ending list
of grievances. This is a classic make work program. Puff
your chested out, inflation, your sense of importance, of self importance,
busy yourself with the myriad of invented tasks, and then
(02:51):
in the review, guess what, You're overworked and underresourced. The
government is going to do something about this, apparently allegedly,
and unfortunately for people like me, they're not moving nearly
fast enough. The Tribunal, as we have said a number
of times, is well pasted. Its useful life. The idea
that it addressed historic wrongs has come and gone. Deadlines
should have been placed years ago on those wanting to
argue their case, expiry dates on applications and negotiations. All
(03:13):
governments have failed miserably to this point on the discipline
required in that particular area. But now it's down to
ongoing dabbling in matters of the day that carry no
weight and have a growing amount of political agitation about them.
It's simply a jecked up grievance mechanism funded by the
taxpayer to supply m O to the gravy chainers for
an ongoing, if never ending list of woe. It takes
(03:34):
a gaul in a broke country. I would have thought,
with cutbacks all around you, to then go and ask
for yet more resource. But then that's the tribunal. Isn't
it political? Wasteful past? It's used by a date and
clearly arrogant.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
A race relations Is it just too hard? This is
what I'm saying. This is why I've never really got
anywhere in life, because when I find things that that
are this hard, I just looked for something else to do.
All right, Well, well, Friday that's tying to mark the week.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Time now to mark the week. It's the little piece
of using current events that's as revelationary as the first
time we all heard the with this week lethality Trump one,
these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass, complete
and utter chaotic clown You don't treat the world economy
like this. Clowns actually too, I'm not calling it a
treat war in order Bessant, Lutnik, HeiG Seth and Levitt.
(04:27):
The IID six collected close to a billion dollars in
unpaid tax simply by looking. It's quite a good concept,
that isn't it. Our business confidence six up and moving
in the right direction This week Housing six up and
moving in the right direction? Asking price up, sales up,
listings up, Paul Goldsmith six. I'd be interested in your
listeners if they could come up with I think we've
got to come up with something that's irritating and difficult
(04:49):
and annoying. Is it ingenious or worrying? Asking the Mike
Hosting Breakfast audience for policy ideas well, eight wall deserves
a break and pure economic terms are I'm not sure
this is the government to spend that line far less
the yarn. But it's Winston's birthday today. He's eighty, so
why not Winston eighty? I reckon politically anyway, He's never
(05:10):
looked better. The Ministry of Transport to simple question asked
on Monday, show us your regional airline data? Have they? Well?
I have more in a moment exactly polls seven. We've
had three in a row now that has the government
getting back. It's a consistent series of figures. I would
have thought decent signed for them. David Parker six, nice bloke.
(05:32):
Not sure he ever really truly fired in politics? The
Rama Reform at nine hundred plus pages, not really at
home to remember Andrew Little six? Is he the answer
to Wellington or just a retired politician looking for work?
Defense eight. I'm still fascinated to see where that nine
billion of new money is coming from. But as a
concept being adult and playing our part globally as well,
(05:53):
overdue supercars eight Yeah to our poet charming are the
green Doyle one? Are the hope? It's yes, exactly. The
hope is one day what they know what they're attracted
attention to for is is I don't know, loosely associated
with the environment, and they remembered the environment. The greens,
the environment are the green Paul one.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mean free promo shot what I said.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
A minute ago. That's the week copies on the website
and a writer's review is underway on this because no
one managed to get the word PanicIn in despite my
express and hold on, they just did.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I can't stress you how hard and challenging mark the
Week is for me enough. I can't stress that enough,
which is why I got one of the buzzes and
the things wrong there. It all happens live like, it's
not prey recorded, and sometimes it's one of those things
you've just got to be concentrating the entire time, and
(06:49):
if you start double thinking things for even a moment rewrapped.
I should stop getting myself up. But there's only one
thing the set of a buzz. Evs that getting a buzz,
big buzz from Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I read a very interesting report yesterday. I don't know
why this is an obvious but it had in New
Zealand time. I think Auckland University was involved in it,
but also with the Chinese university. EV's actually harm the
environment more than they help the environment. Now, how is
that possible, and of course it comes down to how
the EV is powered, and the EV is powered by electricity,
how is the electricity produced and unless they've worked out
(07:23):
now this is the news they've developed that unless it's
half a country or half for sources, electricity is produced renewably,
which of course it isn't globally it's thirty percent in
a country like ours is probably even less. Unless it's
fifty percent of all electricity being produced renewably, then the
EV will do nothing but harm the environment, because, in
other words, you've used coal and gas and oil to
(07:46):
make your power to power your car, and in that
is the idiosy of not planning properly in the first place.
Every day more evidence mounts, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, so that's just a funny news. And he didn't
even mention in there, of course, all the terrible things
you have to do to the planet to make a
battery for an EV. Either. It's a bummer when you
find out stuff about your car, which is probably your
prize position. Yesterday I found out that I've been putting
the wrong petrol of mine. It's supposed to be running
(08:19):
on ninety five. Apparently I could be damaging it by
putting ninety one on it. So I don't know if
it's the economical little beast that I thought it was
my trustee for Humer. But that's I'm going to have
to give the ninety five a go and suck up
the expense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Is the ever picked up by Terriff the rerap.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right, I think we've got some kind of conclusion. Finally,
finally to the you know, trying to get the Ministry
of Transport to tell us where the regional flight to
take off and arrive on time, if they take off
and arrive at all. I don't think it's exactly the
conclusion we were looking for, though.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I have good news and bad news on the same subject.
We finally heard back from the Ministry of Transport yesterday Thursday,
having asked them the simple question on Monday and tell
us the regional numbers for this is for airlines. So
you got very upset when I gave you the national
numbers Auckland, Wellington Christ You didn't need an et cetera,
and the cancelation rate was very low and all you said, well,
when I'm flying from righta Arara, it's not like that.
(09:19):
So anyway, we went back to the Ministry of Transport
and they said they'd get onto it on Monday, which
was a lie because they didn't because we had to
ring them on Tuesday and they, quote unquote, we're working
on a response now. Then we went back later on Tuesday,
said where's the response. We're currently in discussions with the
number of airlines and are planning to provide regional reporting shortly.
Was their answer with, oh, yeah, fair enough, that's Tuesday.
Wednesday came and went somewhere in there. We asked, well,
(09:40):
when you say shortly, what do you mean shortly? They
didn't come back on that, no response at all. Wednesday.
Wednesday came and went like Wednesday never happened, nothing from them.
Then yesterday, finally we asked them a whole lot of
very specific questions. When you say shortly, what's the estimated
time frame? Is the reason that it hasn't been released
because one or more of the airlines are holding up
the data? What is the process to this data? Blah
(10:02):
blah blah blah. Anyway, we finally yesterday got a response
and this is what So that's the good news. We
got the response. Good news. The bad news comes in
the response. The response is in part as follows.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
A key part of.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The ministry's stewardship role is to use data and evidence
to build greater transparency of aviation system performance. Another part.
We began on time performance reporting in September of twenty
four covering domestic jet services, and in November we expanded
our reporting to cover trans Tasman roots. We are working
on further expanding our reporting to include regional routes in
the coming months. We are working with their New Zealand
(10:34):
and a number of regional airlines regarding the data they
will provide to and put into this reporting, and we
appreciate the assistance with this important work. Please note that
airlines collect data in different ways. We need to standardize
this data to ensure consistent representation. We will have this
expanded report available at the end of May. So, in
other words, what they could have said on Monday, if
(10:54):
they weren't a bunch of pratts, is hey, look, we're
still working on this. At the moment, we don't have
any regional stuff. But because we're working on it, we'll
have it by the end of May. Call back then, right,
That's how Mike would run it. But oh no, let's
run at Monday, Chunnesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and that is why,
in a nutshell, the public services the way the public services,
(11:16):
and it's unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
In Mike's book, you do sort of get the impression,
don't you that perhaps, and I don't know this is
the case. It may well not be, but it just
sort of feels like that. When they got asked the question,
they all sort of looked at each other and went, yeah,
why don't we have that information about the regional flights?
And then there were a lot of conversations like that
that happened throughout the week. Anyway, everything's fine. Now. I'm
(11:45):
going on holiday for two weeks, so I'll be back
at the end of April. By that time, I would
like you to have sorted out the world, please, and
everything going a lot more smoothly, with a lot more
certainty and less of the silly other goings on going on. Okay,
I'll see.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You then, MHM. For more from News Talk set B
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZIB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there, welcome to the Rewrap for Friday. All the best,
but it's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on newsbalok' s
EDB and a Sillier package. I am Glen Hard and today, Yes,
the Wide Tongue Tribunal. I think this is Mike Hosking's
favorite organization. We've got some reports back on that. Well
mark the week, because well and behold it's Friday. That's
what we do. We'll bust some more ev myths and
(00:50):
the Ministry of Transport finally gets back to us. But
before any of that, the Treaty Principal's Bill is at
last no more.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The TMP, Mike ll The TPM itself is not the visive.
It's our inability to have a conversation and hear each other.
That's the VISIB couldn't agree more. That sums it up beautifully.
I watched a little bit yesterday. I watched Thomas Cogland
does a good piece in the Herald this morning, works
through the various people who spoke well and didn't speak
where he defends Willie Jackson. I'm this busy. I don't
(01:18):
defend Willie Jackson. He's a loud mouth, he's an attention seeker.
He speaks well, but that's his particular skill. But getting
kicked out of the house again, I mean, that's just boring.
Seymour spoke well, he defended it well. But here's what
I've learned out of this whole debate. One, you're right,
the text is right. We're not up for it. We're
not sophisticated enough or adult enough. There are too many
people on the fringes ago mental and Two, irrefutably, when
(01:43):
the experts came together to give their evidence, they couldn't agree,
which I would have thought is the beginning of the
middle and the end of Seymour's argument. In other words,
he's right.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Or just some of us pass it over, it done
with it. So we've got a bunch of people who
aren't out to it, a bunch of people who wouldn't
mind talking about it, and then people like me who
I just don't care.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We wrap it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I know I'm supposed to care about these things. I
know I'm supposed to care about things like the white
tongue drive you.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And a question for you, is it gaul? Is it
a cheek? Is it comedic? The White Tangy Tribunal has
been reviewed and the reviewers out it recommends it needs
more people and more money. It is, says the review strained.
They are, of course technically corrected. Is straining. The White
Tangy Tribunal is busy. It is busy with urgent and
we use that word loosely with any number of gripes
(02:28):
and grievances around the general state and status of Mury,
or more accurately, a small selection of Murray who have
seen for years, nay decades now, the Tribunal is an
almost endless source of respite in their never ending list
of grievances. This is a classic make work program. Puff
your chested out, inflation, your sense of importance, of self importance,
busy yourself with the myriad of invented tasks, and then
(02:51):
in the review, guess what, You're overworked and underresourced. The
government is going to do something about this, apparently allegedly,
and unfortunately for people like me, they're not moving nearly
fast enough. The Tribunal, as we have said a number
of times, is well pasted. Its useful life. The idea
that it addressed historic wrongs has come and gone. Deadlines
should have been placed years ago on those wanting to
argue their case, expiry dates on applications and negotiations. All
(03:13):
governments have failed miserably to this point on the discipline
required in that particular area. But now it's down to
ongoing dabbling in matters of the day that carry no
weight and have a growing amount of political agitation about them.
It's simply a jecked up grievance mechanism funded by the
taxpayer to supply m O to the gravy chainers for
an ongoing, if never ending list of woe. It takes
(03:34):
a gaul in a broke country. I would have thought,
with cutbacks all around you, to then go and ask
for yet more resource. But then that's the tribunal. Isn't
it political? Wasteful past? It's used by a date and
clearly arrogant.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
A race relations Is it just too hard? This is
what I'm saying. This is why I've never really got
anywhere in life, because when I find things that that
are this hard, I just looked for something else to do.
All right, Well, well, Friday that's tying to mark the week.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Time now to mark the week. It's the little piece
of using current events that's as revelationary as the first
time we all heard the with this week lethality Trump one,
these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass, complete
and utter chaotic clown You don't treat the world economy
like this. Clowns actually too, I'm not calling it a
treat war in order Bessant, Lutnik, HeiG Seth and Levitt.
(04:27):
The IID six collected close to a billion dollars in
unpaid tax simply by looking. It's quite a good concept,
that isn't it. Our business confidence six up and moving
in the right direction This week Housing six up and
moving in the right direction? Asking price up, sales up,
listings up, Paul Goldsmith six. I'd be interested in your
listeners if they could come up with I think we've
got to come up with something that's irritating and difficult
(04:49):
and annoying. Is it ingenious or worrying? Asking the Mike
Hosting Breakfast audience for policy ideas well, eight wall deserves
a break and pure economic terms are I'm not sure
this is the government to spend that line far less
the yarn. But it's Winston's birthday today. He's eighty, so
why not Winston eighty? I reckon politically anyway, He's never
(05:10):
looked better. The Ministry of Transport to simple question asked
on Monday, show us your regional airline data? Have they? Well?
I have more in a moment exactly polls seven. We've
had three in a row now that has the government
getting back. It's a consistent series of figures. I would
have thought decent signed for them. David Parker six, nice bloke.
(05:32):
Not sure he ever really truly fired in politics? The
Rama Reform at nine hundred plus pages, not really at
home to remember Andrew Little six? Is he the answer
to Wellington or just a retired politician looking for work?
Defense eight. I'm still fascinated to see where that nine
billion of new money is coming from. But as a
concept being adult and playing our part globally as well,
(05:53):
overdue supercars eight Yeah to our poet charming are the
green Doyle one? Are the hope? It's yes, exactly. The
hope is one day what they know what they're attracted
attention to for is is I don't know, loosely associated
with the environment, and they remembered the environment. The greens,
the environment are the green Paul one.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mean free promo shot what I said.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
A minute ago. That's the week copies on the website
and a writer's review is underway on this because no
one managed to get the word PanicIn in despite my
express and hold on, they just did.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I can't stress you how hard and challenging mark the
Week is for me enough. I can't stress that enough,
which is why I got one of the buzzes and
the things wrong there. It all happens live like, it's
not prey recorded, and sometimes it's one of those things
you've just got to be concentrating the entire time, and
(06:49):
if you start double thinking things for even a moment rewrapped.
I should stop getting myself up. But there's only one
thing the set of a buzz. Evs that getting a buzz,
big buzz from Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I read a very interesting report yesterday. I don't know
why this is an obvious but it had in New
Zealand time. I think Auckland University was involved in it,
but also with the Chinese university. EV's actually harm the
environment more than they help the environment. Now, how is
that possible, and of course it comes down to how
the EV is powered, and the EV is powered by electricity,
how is the electricity produced and unless they've worked out
(07:23):
now this is the news they've developed that unless it's
half a country or half for sources, electricity is produced renewably,
which of course it isn't globally it's thirty percent in
a country like ours is probably even less. Unless it's
fifty percent of all electricity being produced renewably, then the
EV will do nothing but harm the environment, because, in
other words, you've used coal and gas and oil to
(07:46):
make your power to power your car, and in that
is the idiosy of not planning properly in the first place.
Every day more evidence mounts, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, so that's just a funny news. And he didn't
even mention in there, of course, all the terrible things
you have to do to the planet to make a
battery for an EV. Either. It's a bummer when you
find out stuff about your car, which is probably your
prize position. Yesterday I found out that I've been putting
the wrong petrol of mine. It's supposed to be running
(08:19):
on ninety five. Apparently I could be damaging it by
putting ninety one on it. So I don't know if
it's the economical little beast that I thought it was
my trustee for Humer. But that's I'm going to have
to give the ninety five a go and suck up
the expense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Is the ever picked up by Terriff the rerap.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right, I think we've got some kind of conclusion. Finally,
finally to the you know, trying to get the Ministry
of Transport to tell us where the regional flight to
take off and arrive on time, if they take off
and arrive at all. I don't think it's exactly the
conclusion we were looking for, though.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I have good news and bad news on the same subject.
We finally heard back from the Ministry of Transport yesterday Thursday,
having asked them the simple question on Monday and tell
us the regional numbers for this is for airlines. So
you got very upset when I gave you the national
numbers Auckland, Wellington Christ You didn't need an et cetera,
and the cancelation rate was very low and all you said, well,
when I'm flying from righta Arara, it's not like that.
(09:19):
So anyway, we went back to the Ministry of Transport
and they said they'd get onto it on Monday, which
was a lie because they didn't because we had to
ring them on Tuesday and they, quote unquote, we're working
on a response now. Then we went back later on Tuesday,
said where's the response. We're currently in discussions with the
number of airlines and are planning to provide regional reporting shortly.
Was their answer with, oh, yeah, fair enough, that's Tuesday.
Wednesday came and went somewhere in there. We asked, well,
(09:40):
when you say shortly, what do you mean shortly? They
didn't come back on that, no response at all. Wednesday.
Wednesday came and went like Wednesday never happened, nothing from them.
Then yesterday, finally we asked them a whole lot of
very specific questions. When you say shortly, what's the estimated
time frame? Is the reason that it hasn't been released
because one or more of the airlines are holding up
the data? What is the process to this data? Blah
(10:02):
blah blah blah. Anyway, we finally yesterday got a response
and this is what So that's the good news. We
got the response. Good news. The bad news comes in
the response. The response is in part as follows.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
A key part of.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The ministry's stewardship role is to use data and evidence
to build greater transparency of aviation system performance. Another part.
We began on time performance reporting in September of twenty
four covering domestic jet services, and in November we expanded
our reporting to cover trans Tasman roots. We are working
on further expanding our reporting to include regional routes in
the coming months. We are working with their New Zealand
(10:34):
and a number of regional airlines regarding the data they
will provide to and put into this reporting, and we
appreciate the assistance with this important work. Please note that
airlines collect data in different ways. We need to standardize
this data to ensure consistent representation. We will have this
expanded report available at the end of May. So, in
other words, what they could have said on Monday, if
(10:54):
they weren't a bunch of pratts, is hey, look, we're
still working on this. At the moment, we don't have
any regional stuff. But because we're working on it, we'll
have it by the end of May. Call back then, right,
That's how Mike would run it. But oh no, let's
run at Monday, Chunnesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and that is why,
in a nutshell, the public services the way the public services,
(11:16):
and it's unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
In Mike's book, you do sort of get the impression,
don't you that perhaps, and I don't know this is
the case. It may well not be, but it just
sort of feels like that. When they got asked the question,
they all sort of looked at each other and went, yeah,
why don't we have that information about the regional flights?
And then there were a lot of conversations like that
that happened throughout the week. Anyway, everything's fine. Now. I'm
(11:45):
going on holiday for two weeks, so I'll be back
at the end of April. By that time, I would
like you to have sorted out the world, please, and
everything going a lot more smoothly, with a lot more
certainty and less of the silly other goings on going on. Okay,
I'll see.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You then, MHM. For more from News Talk set B
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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