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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best, but's from the mic asking breakfast on newsbooks.
They'd be in a silly air package. I am Glen
Hart and today is hospitality and trouble or isn't it?
Is it recovering or isn't it. We'll try and figure
this out. Where in the world is Adrian or renewable energy?
I don't never catch on and remembering our first cars.
(00:45):
But first let's remember how well the Warriors played over
the weekend. Very well, indeed well.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
One of the Australian dailies did a half year report
for the NRL last week. The same paper, by the way,
wrote the Warriors off at the start.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I placed a little bit of weight on the Australian
media generally when it comes to league. They employ a
lot of very knowledgeable operators and league plays a big
role in general sports coverage there, so they take it seriously.
They had us at the start of the year winning
seven games, as in for the whole season we were
no good and we would go nowhere, they said.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
They didn't address that in their half season report. They
simply stated what we've all seen, we are the real deal,
and Saturday merely added to that. Of course, we started
against the Sharks well, scored well early and easily, and
then the game tightened up. The Sharks seemed to go
up a gear. We went to the half ahead not
by much, and it had been a good type first
half by a couple of excellent sides, very ruminious, and
I thought actually of last week's game. But then the
(01:36):
second half we killed them. At the halfway point of
the season, ten wins, not the seven that had been predicted.
Once again, like last week, the opponent was a good site.
I thought. We faced the Panthers next then not a
good site. So after a buy and two more points,
you would assume the season marches on with more success.
A lot was made last week of Mitch Barnett, but
it seems there hasn't been a game where one, if
(01:58):
not several major players have been absent, and yet it
doesn't seem to have affected the overall result. Which is
not to under sell the Barnet factor, but it is
to suggest we look like a complete side with plenty
of depth. Are the harves Combo loving them surely? Harris
DaVita Metcalf, I mean they look as good as any
in terms of pace and cleverness. You can see why
Metcalf has got the Delian points he does. Currently we're
(02:18):
top of the table. You've seen that we're top of
the table toppish given games and points for and against
and all that sort of stuff. But as the Australian
paper said, and they're right, anything now less than the
top four finish is going to be not just a
disappointment but unacceptable. We've worked hard to be where we
are and we deserve at least a shot at the
spoils that come with a big time. Thirteen played, ten wins,
(02:39):
twenty two points. This very much. This is our year.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
When they play as well as they did against the Shacks,
this could well be the year. It's the rewrap now hospitality.
We keep being told that it's hard times. So there's
a hard times or isn't it hard times? What's boy?
Because I don't know about you, but every time I
go out the restaurant seems full and everybody's having a
(03:06):
good time.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
We've got the press release from the Restaurant's Association on Friday,
flat sales, cost pressures, regional divergence. That was the theme.
Now I've changed my mind a little bit on Hospow
of late, I wonder more broadly whether there are too
many vested interests in this country who get in the
way of real progress. Now, the HOSPOS story has been
a long, arduous and well told one. Of course, hospo's shot.
Hospo's a disaster. No one makes money in hospital, no
(03:30):
one wants to work in hospow. And yet my increasing
observation is that is not true. If you take a
very large industry as a whole and average everything out,
you might well be able to find some doer times.
But what's increasingly obvious from not just personal experience, but
a lot of anecdotal expert opinion is a lot of
HOSPO is not only fine, it's actually going quite well.
The thing about hospow is it's makeable. You are not
(03:52):
a log exporter reliant on a single market to either
buy or not buy your tree. In HOSPO, you can
vary what it is you're offering. And what I see
as a lot of people doing really good things, and
as a result they're doing very nicely. Thank you. For example,
it took us over a week to get a last
table for lunch the other day at the local a week.
That's in our experience. They've changed, they've changed hands, they've
(04:12):
boosted their product offering, and as a result they've gone
from a quiet regional operator to a booming tourism business
rushed off its feet. Same place, same name, new product,
whole different result. The other thing about HOSPO is it
doesn't require any skill to enter. Anyone can buy a
cafe and a lot do and I've seen them often immigrants.
It's an easy entry point. They take over a going concern,
wreck it, change the men you employ, the family, kill
(04:35):
the service dead in a week. We're oversupplied, of course
with hospitality outlets. So in your area where you've got
a choice of a dozen places, only two have to
be good before they boom, and the others willt So
the restaurant association telling us things aren't flash is not
the real story. I don't think bits aren't flash. But
then if you're not up to much in the first place,
they never will be.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I don't think you know, a bar or a
restaurant has always been a guaranteed recipe for success opening one.
It's keeping it open. That's always been the hard part,
and it's probably just as hard as its ever been now.
The guy who tried to keep the country open perhaps
not hard enough. If you're Mike asking, is Adrien Or
(05:15):
We haven't really heard from him since he We're not
up and a half. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I don't know whether it's it's a moral imperative or
it's something that he wouldn't. You know, it's just the
right thing to do, Adrian or quit and you've not
heard from him since. Does he ois an explanation? I
think he does. It doesn't matter what the explanation is,
just to say here is I got sick of it,
I got worn out. I didn't want the government interfering
on some of the funding to the bank, or I
(05:40):
knew there were changes coming and I didn't like it.
So whatever, I don't care what it is. Just to
explain because he's been a fairly pivotal figure in our
lives for a number of years, and all of a
sudden he just vanished off the face of the earth.
And what appeared to be a massive hissy fit anyway,
So the Herald's been chasing this up under the Official
Information Act. Now, the thing about the Official Information Act,
there are rules around it, and when you ask a
(06:01):
question or want some information, you've got to come back
within twenty working days. And the Reserve Bank happened and
they continue not to, which once again leads you to ask,
yet again questions about what's the point of having rules
in this country if no one's going to adhere to them.
So they were supposed to reply, expected to hear from
the RB in early April, as THEAA requires a response
(06:23):
within twenty working days May fourteen, which isn't April, it's May,
and the Middle of said it would write to the
Herald hope to respond by May thirty, So the end
of May did they know? So they're still consulting on
what information to be made public. That's fine, consulting you want,
but do it within the timeframe. So you've got two
problems here. One they're stalling. Two they're breaking the rules.
(06:46):
Three what's the peopletic for that? Or does no one
care anymore? And anyway, then you get back to the
moral thing. Doesn't he does he forget the RB. Doesn't
he owe as an explanation for what was going through
his mind and why he did what he did.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yes, So if you see him at the supermarket or
the petrol station or something, could you tell him to
give us a rent and hopefully he'll be forthcoming with
some answers of those questions that Mike was just posing
there revenue. Now, Mike's been asking questions about renewable energy
for some time. I think he's got all the answers
as well.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Mike, why were we're ignoring the addition of hydro dams
for power? Another damn after the Clyde Dam would be epic?
Epic is epic? The word Where is the last dam
we built in this country as far as I know?
Is one Nelson or outside of Nelson? And that was
just a complete and utter cluster and it finally got
finished was it last year? And it was years over
(07:39):
due and miles over day the whole thing. I'm not
against the dam, but just show me, tell me which
part of the country you're building that in. Wander into
that particular area and go, hey, guys, we're thinking of
building a nice big dam here, and see how that
goes for you, Mike. I was in Spain Portugal along
with parts of it, only six weeks ago when they
had that total loss of electricity supply for fifteen to
(07:59):
twenty hours, plus weeks of one going repairs to damaged
equipment because of over aliance on solar and wind. I
don't know they ever concluded that, I mean, that was
a global story. Obviously they conclude that that was one
hundred percent because of their reliance on renewable It certainly
was suggested. But Luxon is right when he talks about these.
Spain is one of the most renewable economies in that
(08:21):
part of the world at fifty percent, so when we're
on the high eighties, this ongoing thing about being more
and more green is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I tend to agree with that first person. I think
damns are quite epic. Admittedly, as Mike says, they are
tricky to build and to get everybody on board with
that was there there epic? Yeah, but you know, we
can't be saving to ban it anymore. It's too bad.
Let's move on for re wrap now. For some reason,
I think it was because we were talking about young
drivers being state than they used to be. Anyway, we
(08:50):
got onto talking about our first cars this morning.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Is there something in that the Prime Minister's revelation this
morning about the the Riley Elf his first car. How
many people have their first car still? What do you reckon?
In percentage terms? Less than one percent of people would
still have their first car, wouldn't they? I regret I
earned a nineteen sixty nine Dame La Mark one when
(09:15):
I was twenty twenty one, and it was a ridiculous
car to own because I couldn't afford to run it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Did you think you were the Queen?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But I thought that's a cool car. And it was
at a time when the Toyota Corolla on a fair
Go story was pinged as being a particularly rustworthy car.
And the very next day, after the fair Go episode
of the Toyota Corolla being particularly rustworthy, I drove it
to a lot and I saw it at the front of
the lot, a nineteen sixty nine Dame La Mark won.
(09:46):
I thought, I'm going to trade my Toyota Corolla. I
hope he hasn't seen fair Go the night before, and
I'm going to buy this damler because I figured he'll
be wanting to get rid of the Dameler, because how
many people hold a Daimler on their lot. Not many,
as it turns out, and you couldn't wait to get
rid of it. So I swapped the Corolla for the Daimler.
No money changed hands, seven thousand dollars and I thought,
I'm quids in here until the breaks failed and I
needed various other parts coming in from Britain. I didn't
(10:07):
have any money for any of those things. So I
drove the damel for a sustained period of time around
and Eden with no brakes. And I can tell you
that made me the driver I am today because anticipating.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
When you're famously flat and Eden, yeah, well exactly Stuart Street.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Go to Stuart Street sometime with no breaks and see
how that goes for you. And you know, anticipating when
the Dameler comes to a halt with no real brakes
is a thing. But if I could have that car back,
I would because I can now afford to actually put
petrol in the thing. But it's gone.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I have no feelings of nostalgia for my first car.
They're seventy four hundred Civic that ended up with the
warp heap, head casket and basically wouldn't go anywhere more
after it got stolen, and then they drove it around
with no water in it, which at which point it
became a very useless piece of metal, which I still
managed to sell to somebody. I told them, you know,
it's got a warp hearecasket, and they still bought it.
(10:56):
So I'm pretty sure that's not still driving around today
that car. I Am Being Hatner's podcast is still going,
and it'll be going again for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'll see you there for more from News Talk set
B listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on
iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best, but's from the mic asking breakfast on newsbooks.
They'd be in a silly air package. I am Glen
Hart and today is hospitality and trouble or isn't it?
Is it recovering or isn't it. We'll try and figure
this out. Where in the world is Adrian or renewable energy?
I don't never catch on and remembering our first cars.
(00:45):
But first let's remember how well the Warriors played over
the weekend. Very well, indeed well.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
One of the Australian dailies did a half year report
for the NRL last week. The same paper, by the way,
wrote the Warriors off at the start.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I placed a little bit of weight on the Australian
media generally when it comes to league. They employ a
lot of very knowledgeable operators and league plays a big
role in general sports coverage there, so they take it seriously.
They had us at the start of the year winning
seven games, as in for the whole season we were
no good and we would go nowhere, they said.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
They didn't address that in their half season report. They
simply stated what we've all seen, we are the real deal,
and Saturday merely added to that. Of course, we started
against the Sharks well, scored well early and easily, and
then the game tightened up. The Sharks seemed to go
up a gear. We went to the half ahead not
by much, and it had been a good type first
half by a couple of excellent sides, very ruminious, and
I thought actually of last week's game. But then the
(01:36):
second half we killed them. At the halfway point of
the season, ten wins, not the seven that had been predicted.
Once again, like last week, the opponent was a good site.
I thought. We faced the Panthers next then not a
good site. So after a buy and two more points,
you would assume the season marches on with more success.
A lot was made last week of Mitch Barnett, but
it seems there hasn't been a game where one, if
(01:58):
not several major players have been absent, and yet it
doesn't seem to have affected the overall result. Which is
not to under sell the Barnet factor, but it is
to suggest we look like a complete side with plenty
of depth. Are the harves Combo loving them surely? Harris
DaVita Metcalf, I mean they look as good as any
in terms of pace and cleverness. You can see why
Metcalf has got the Delian points he does. Currently we're
(02:18):
top of the table. You've seen that we're top of
the table toppish given games and points for and against
and all that sort of stuff. But as the Australian
paper said, and they're right, anything now less than the
top four finish is going to be not just a
disappointment but unacceptable. We've worked hard to be where we
are and we deserve at least a shot at the
spoils that come with a big time. Thirteen played, ten wins,
(02:39):
twenty two points. This very much. This is our year.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
When they play as well as they did against the Shacks,
this could well be the year. It's the rewrap now hospitality.
We keep being told that it's hard times. So there's
a hard times or isn't it hard times? What's boy?
Because I don't know about you, but every time I
go out the restaurant seems full and everybody's having a
(03:06):
good time.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
We've got the press release from the Restaurant's Association on Friday,
flat sales, cost pressures, regional divergence. That was the theme.
Now I've changed my mind a little bit on Hospow
of late, I wonder more broadly whether there are too
many vested interests in this country who get in the
way of real progress. Now, the HOSPOS story has been
a long, arduous and well told one. Of course, hospo's shot.
Hospo's a disaster. No one makes money in hospital, no
(03:30):
one wants to work in hospow. And yet my increasing
observation is that is not true. If you take a
very large industry as a whole and average everything out,
you might well be able to find some doer times.
But what's increasingly obvious from not just personal experience, but
a lot of anecdotal expert opinion is a lot of
HOSPO is not only fine, it's actually going quite well.
The thing about hospow is it's makeable. You are not
(03:52):
a log exporter reliant on a single market to either
buy or not buy your tree. In HOSPO, you can
vary what it is you're offering. And what I see
as a lot of people doing really good things, and
as a result they're doing very nicely. Thank you. For example,
it took us over a week to get a last
table for lunch the other day at the local a week.
That's in our experience. They've changed, they've changed hands, they've
(04:12):
boosted their product offering, and as a result they've gone
from a quiet regional operator to a booming tourism business
rushed off its feet. Same place, same name, new product,
whole different result. The other thing about HOSPO is it
doesn't require any skill to enter. Anyone can buy a
cafe and a lot do and I've seen them often immigrants.
It's an easy entry point. They take over a going concern,
wreck it, change the men you employ, the family, kill
(04:35):
the service dead in a week. We're oversupplied, of course
with hospitality outlets. So in your area where you've got
a choice of a dozen places, only two have to
be good before they boom, and the others willt So
the restaurant association telling us things aren't flash is not
the real story. I don't think bits aren't flash. But
then if you're not up to much in the first place,
they never will be.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I don't think you know, a bar or a
restaurant has always been a guaranteed recipe for success opening one.
It's keeping it open. That's always been the hard part,
and it's probably just as hard as its ever been now.
The guy who tried to keep the country open perhaps
not hard enough. If you're Mike asking, is Adrien Or
(05:15):
We haven't really heard from him since he We're not
up and a half. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I don't know whether it's it's a moral imperative or
it's something that he wouldn't. You know, it's just the
right thing to do, Adrian or quit and you've not
heard from him since. Does he ois an explanation? I
think he does. It doesn't matter what the explanation is,
just to say here is I got sick of it,
I got worn out. I didn't want the government interfering
on some of the funding to the bank, or I
(05:40):
knew there were changes coming and I didn't like it.
So whatever, I don't care what it is. Just to
explain because he's been a fairly pivotal figure in our
lives for a number of years, and all of a
sudden he just vanished off the face of the earth.
And what appeared to be a massive hissy fit anyway,
So the Herald's been chasing this up under the Official
Information Act. Now, the thing about the Official Information Act,
there are rules around it, and when you ask a
(06:01):
question or want some information, you've got to come back
within twenty working days. And the Reserve Bank happened and
they continue not to, which once again leads you to ask,
yet again questions about what's the point of having rules
in this country if no one's going to adhere to them.
So they were supposed to reply, expected to hear from
the RB in early April, as THEAA requires a response
(06:23):
within twenty working days May fourteen, which isn't April, it's May,
and the Middle of said it would write to the
Herald hope to respond by May thirty, So the end
of May did they know? So they're still consulting on
what information to be made public. That's fine, consulting you want,
but do it within the timeframe. So you've got two
problems here. One they're stalling. Two they're breaking the rules.
(06:46):
Three what's the peopletic for that? Or does no one
care anymore? And anyway, then you get back to the
moral thing. Doesn't he does he forget the RB. Doesn't
he owe as an explanation for what was going through
his mind and why he did what he did.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yes, So if you see him at the supermarket or
the petrol station or something, could you tell him to
give us a rent and hopefully he'll be forthcoming with
some answers of those questions that Mike was just posing
there revenue. Now, Mike's been asking questions about renewable energy
for some time. I think he's got all the answers
as well.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Mike, why were we're ignoring the addition of hydro dams
for power? Another damn after the Clyde Dam would be epic?
Epic is epic? The word Where is the last dam
we built in this country as far as I know?
Is one Nelson or outside of Nelson? And that was
just a complete and utter cluster and it finally got
finished was it last year? And it was years over
(07:39):
due and miles over day the whole thing. I'm not
against the dam, but just show me, tell me which
part of the country you're building that in. Wander into
that particular area and go, hey, guys, we're thinking of
building a nice big dam here, and see how that
goes for you, Mike. I was in Spain Portugal along
with parts of it, only six weeks ago when they
had that total loss of electricity supply for fifteen to
(07:59):
twenty hours, plus weeks of one going repairs to damaged
equipment because of over aliance on solar and wind. I
don't know they ever concluded that, I mean, that was
a global story. Obviously they conclude that that was one
hundred percent because of their reliance on renewable It certainly
was suggested. But Luxon is right when he talks about these.
Spain is one of the most renewable economies in that
(08:21):
part of the world at fifty percent, so when we're
on the high eighties, this ongoing thing about being more
and more green is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I tend to agree with that first person. I think
damns are quite epic. Admittedly, as Mike says, they are
tricky to build and to get everybody on board with
that was there there epic? Yeah, but you know, we
can't be saving to ban it anymore. It's too bad.
Let's move on for re wrap now. For some reason,
I think it was because we were talking about young
drivers being state than they used to be. Anyway, we
(08:50):
got onto talking about our first cars this morning.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Is there something in that the Prime Minister's revelation this
morning about the the Riley Elf his first car. How
many people have their first car still? What do you reckon?
In percentage terms? Less than one percent of people would
still have their first car, wouldn't they? I regret I
earned a nineteen sixty nine Dame La Mark one when
(09:15):
I was twenty twenty one, and it was a ridiculous
car to own because I couldn't afford to run it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Did you think you were the Queen?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But I thought that's a cool car. And it was
at a time when the Toyota Corolla on a fair
Go story was pinged as being a particularly rustworthy car.
And the very next day, after the fair Go episode
of the Toyota Corolla being particularly rustworthy, I drove it
to a lot and I saw it at the front of
the lot, a nineteen sixty nine Dame La Mark won.
(09:46):
I thought, I'm going to trade my Toyota Corolla. I
hope he hasn't seen fair Go the night before, and
I'm going to buy this damler because I figured he'll
be wanting to get rid of the Dameler, because how
many people hold a Daimler on their lot. Not many,
as it turns out, and you couldn't wait to get
rid of it. So I swapped the Corolla for the Daimler.
No money changed hands, seven thousand dollars and I thought,
I'm quids in here until the breaks failed and I
needed various other parts coming in from Britain. I didn't
(10:07):
have any money for any of those things. So I
drove the damel for a sustained period of time around
and Eden with no brakes. And I can tell you
that made me the driver I am today because anticipating.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
When you're famously flat and Eden, yeah, well exactly Stuart Street.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Go to Stuart Street sometime with no breaks and see
how that goes for you. And you know, anticipating when
the Dameler comes to a halt with no real brakes
is a thing. But if I could have that car back,
I would because I can now afford to actually put
petrol in the thing. But it's gone.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I have no feelings of nostalgia for my first car.
They're seventy four hundred Civic that ended up with the
warp heap, head casket and basically wouldn't go anywhere more
after it got stolen, and then they drove it around
with no water in it, which at which point it
became a very useless piece of metal, which I still
managed to sell to somebody. I told them, you know,
it's got a warp hearecasket, and they still bought it.
(10:56):
So I'm pretty sure that's not still driving around today
that car. I Am Being Hatner's podcast is still going,
and it'll be going again for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'll see you there for more from News Talk set
B listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on
iHeartRadio
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