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April 30, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Pastry Is Useful/War Almost Very Nearly Not Quite Over/Tapageddon

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap, Okaday there and welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday.
All the best, but it's from the Mike host and
breakfast on news Talks. It'd be in a sillier package.
I am Glenn Hard. So Trump's been in power for
over one hundred days now, so I'm assuming that Ukraine
war thing is over and sorted. We have got major,

(00:45):
major building maintenance issues here. We're going to get into
that for most of the podcasts, but we'll just get
a few other things out of the way first, like
the push to teach kids financial literacy.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Regulars will know. School and I were never really that close.
It was a means to an end. The end couldn't
come soon enough, and the means was these skills required
to get out into the world and get on with life.
One of the things that did help with economics. I
found it genuinely interesting. I did quite well in it.
They taught me compounding interest. Well, it taught me about
compounding interests. Now, if you don't know about compounding interest,

(01:17):
you don't know about life. Basically, economics is life, and
its lack of understanding is why so many people have
so many difficulties with money. As of twenty twenty seven,
if you're not up on this financial education, it has
been announced will be compulsory in school years one through ten.
I'd make it one through thirteen personally, But praise the Lord.
This education. This is education you can use. I mean
geography in Latin and physics. They're about career pathways, right,

(01:41):
They're about ideas you may or may not find interesting.
As a result, you may or may not ever used them.
But finance is about life. It's about success. It's about
navigating the world. People who know what money is, currency is,
interest is, dividends are investment as returns are do better
in the world than those who don't. It raises the question,
I suppose as to what education is really all about.
Is it about a pathway to university, to skills or

(02:03):
to understanding or the power or value of learning or
the basics of life? I mean they used to do
home still do under different names. I mean, is that
a pathway to work with Alan de cars or is
it just to make some scones on a rainy Sunday?
I figure of nothing else. School should be useful. A
lot of people don't use a lot of what we
got at school. I mean, nomadic tribes of Africa in

(02:24):
geography didn't serve me all that well. But compound interest
has economics opened a door for me, A useful, beneficial,
financially fruitful door. The idea that all kids will get
that going forward is no bad thing.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I feel like you gave home each a bad rap there.
It's weird that it was called home economics, wasn't it.
When it wasn't economics, it was cooking. I remember making
a dish called fish strasi to the Russian fish dish

(03:00):
I don't think i've made since. I did also learn
how to make pastry from scratch, and I did use
that for quite a long time. In fact, many people
might suggest that it was how I managed to woo
my wife with my maid from scratch homemade vegetable chicken
and vegetable pie. I don't know if she'd say that

(03:22):
this is all just a smokescreen, of course, because I
did not take economics and can't stand it, and it
makes my head go around and around. Right, So the
Ukraine War seems to be still happening, which is confusing
to me because I'm pretty sure Trump promised that that

(03:42):
was going to be solved day one.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
So I note the German government has weighed in to
this end of the war debate, which is not to
say the German government doesn't have a stake in this,
because as does all of Europe, I guess, but their
advice is not to take the current deal. Now, the
current deal, as we understand it is crime is gone.
That's based on the thinking that it got nicked a
number of years ago. Anyway, no one really objected at
the time. The rest of the eastern part of Ukraine

(04:05):
is under dispute militarily currently, most of it broadly under
my control, some of it under the Ukrainian control. The
American argument crimera is Russia the stuff Russia currently has
as theirs. Ukraine keeps the rest. This is what the
Germans are not happy about. Now here's the problem. Does Germany,
outside of words actually have any sway? I mean, does
anyone outside of America have any sway? Well, if Europe

(04:27):
by a NATO could or would step up and fund
the war, yes they do, are they though?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So look at all the huffing and puffing that went
on when Trump first suggested a deal and that America
was out. A lot of the money type promises, a
lot of the we stand with us, but really the
cult hard truth is America has funded such a large
amount of the defense. If it goes, NATO, for all
their fighting talk, don't seem up for it. If Putin
turns out to be a crook and is stringing trumping

(04:53):
along and that all gets up his nose, then I
guess all bets are off. But that aside, Trump has
been consistent he is not interested in wars, he is
not interested in much outside of America, and certainly billions
in weaponry is wasteful spending he can redirect elsewhere. So
I believe them when they say cut a deal or
we are out. The cold truth that Europe and NATO
tried to hide with all their Rhetorican patriotic verbiage was

(05:16):
Ukraine doesn't have any carts. They are reliant on a
continent that is with them, but only so far, and
another continent that can't wait to pack up and go home.
Russia can hang in there forever Ukraine can't. So Germany
chirping from the sidelines achieves it's.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Where that the US is such a powerbroker in all this,
aren't they? Given that Trump kicks complaining that America is
the country that's been wrapped off more than any other country,
and it's just constantly being wrapped off by everybody, and
nobody wraps them off more than anybody else. So it's

(05:51):
for little America and they seem to have all this power.
I don't quite understand how that works. Okay, so very
disturbing find this morning when I arrived at work, one
of the first things I do is we have a
little kitchenette outside of the stick udio, and although there's

(06:12):
no coffee machine as such, there is a one of
those taps that boiling water comes straight out of the tap,
and I use that to make myself an instant coffee.
It's one of the first things I do because without
that caffeine hat, my body just will not function in
any way, and my mind, after having shut down during

(06:34):
the show the previous day, certainly won't start up again.
So yeah, even though it's only instant, it seems to
do the job. However, this morning there was a notice
on the islet Mike explain.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Here's my other problem today water. I feel under resourced
as a broadcaster. This morning, the tap I have hot
water and lemon, which makes me sound slightly problematic to
deal with, but nevertheless, I've done it for many, many years,
and it cleanses the liver. It makes you feel younger

(07:07):
than you are. Anyway. So the tap I access, which
is just outside the studio, is broken, of course, because
this place refuses to do any sort of maintenance program,
and so we wait till everything breaks, and then we
call a tech and we put a label as we
have on the tap this morning on the tech.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Saying beautifully printed.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's a very nicely printed. If if we only maintained
things as well as we printed labels, we'd actually have
some bloody water running. Anyway, So we were tap broke,
and we called the tech. But of course, you know
what it's like getting anybody. So I'm now having to
I'm leaving shortly. By the way, I'm leaving shortly for
the next tap. The nearest tap is kilometers away, and
I may morning exactly and I may not be back

(07:44):
before the end of the news. I've I've had to run,
and I had to run with a full cup, and
it's hell, I don't know if it's coming across on
the show. I feel quite good, but wish me well.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yes, So when it came to my cup of coffee,
not my lemon water, I don't do lemon water, and
much the same way that I don't do antipasto platter
or tropical fruit. And it's container fully other thinks Mike
can bet really consume this every morning? No? But you know,

(08:16):
my innocent coffee, I got a dribble of hot water
out of it and then it wouldn't work, and that
was enough to sort of dissolve the instant coffee, and
then I just filled the rest up with milk and
then it was basically like an iced coffee at that point.
And it actually I didn't mind.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's a re wrap.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
But I don't think Mike's looking for an iced lemon water.
I don't think that's how he rolls.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Mike, I have a lime tree absolutely loaded at the moment.
So do I actually have a siple lime tree is
going to be very good citrus season.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You're not gonna You're going to say it's a lime
tree and then.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, good point. Good point. There's a couple of trees
I had that could turn out to be other things,
like oranges. I've got a blood orange I thought was
a lemon for a while. So the blood orange.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is yesterday's person, and tree was a one hundred.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Percent exactly, but no, it's I'm confident on limes. I've
got limes, lemons, several sorts of lemons, and several sorts
of grapefruit, and a blood orange, just the one blood orange.
If I wanted to plant more, I do more blood orange.
But this person's got a lime tree. What's my ratio
to limit a water? I have two slices of lemon
and a very small cup of water, so it's quite high.
I think, how come Mike gets a cup in the studio?

(09:24):
Other studios you can't. What other studios will you? Studio
frequent to you? How do you know you're an expert
in studios? Are you a good grief? My command of
your standing? I thought you would have staff to fetch
your water. You think that, wouldn't you? You think that
I am?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Is it a hygiene issue that you don't let other
people do that?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, you can't have people fingering your lemon water?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Boss did say you get me a thermos? And I said, good,
go get one, because there I know full well there's
not a thermos in the building. Mike boiler jug Ah,
good question, what chug? Where's the jug? Go on, tell
me where the jug is.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
There's no jug here, and if there was, there'd be
a notice of it exactly. I'm assuming the person who
texted in about the no magazine of the studio was
Matt Heath, as he'd be afternoon co host, who famously
spilled his coffee all over the desk in the studio

(10:18):
where Mike operates from and then took off his in
a crazy move, took off his shirt to mop it
up with. I think he's been banned from having any
kind of liquids in there. I think Mike's record of
keeping the lemon water to himself and not all over

(10:39):
the desk has meant that he is exempt from such
rules the rerat. But yeah, he laid down the challenge
on the firmace and guess what, oh.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
The boss God bless him, so my water. I'm short
that she's gone down to the supermarket. He's left the
building in what can only well as what the Herald
would describe as meteorologically the end of the world, because
I'm sure there's sixteen or eighteen weather alerts at the moment.
So he's gone out into the store this morning. He's
gone up to the supermarket and he's purchased me a

(11:12):
daycre insulated double wall Adventurer stainless steel thermous twenty four
hours of cold, twelve hours of hot, one point two
liters forty point five fluid ounces of beautiful boiling water.
Isn't that good? So I'm good to go. So and
it costs for what.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Do you say it cost? I believe forty one dollars
ninety nine. I think it's it's is it overstate to
get to say that he bought it for you, because
it's it's the studio tet that's not working. Isn't it
just for the No?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
No, he's mine, No, No, the thermis is mine. I'm
going to write Mike on it. Mike, I'm gonna say
my memory to print a label like the one that
it says mics do not touch.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So, which is exactly what happening. Well, A Marie to
do the label. I did the label. Apparently, when you're
in middle management, and that's the kind of thing and
even app management as it turns out that's the kind
of thing that you have to do to keep the
company running. That's why I can't even be a good manager.

(12:19):
I don't think. I'll just keep doing what I do,
which is this, and I'll be back to do some
more of it tomorrow. I'll see you.

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