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July 14, 2025 • 13 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Who WOULDN'T You Vote For?/Another Day, Another Stadium Uproar/NCEA Looking Up/Isn't the Climate Crisis Bad Enough?/Alien Apocalypse Update

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Therapy there and welcome to the rerap for Tuesday. All
the best, but it's from the mic asking Breakfast on
Newstalk ZEDB and a sillier package. I am Glen Hart
and today are the blues swapping stadiums? Is NCA actually
working now? How is Radio New Zealand doing its climate reporting?

(00:45):
And where is the lost satellite? Before any of that?
The Wellington marial t race that seems fun, An't you
lucky and willing to have all those excellent, excellent candidates
to vote for.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Ray Hung is right that email has been released to
undermine his campaign. That is not a conspiracy theory. That
is a fact. We know that because the email was
released by Tory Farno herself, the subject of the email.
She released it to the Herald so that we could
all read about it. And Andrew Little was then in
that story. He spoke to the Herald for the original
story so that he could slam Ray Chung, his mayoral opponent,

(01:20):
and we could all read about it. So totally, Ray
Chung is right. He is as he said on the
stage last night, the victim of a blatant political attack.
But that's his fault. There's no one else's fault but
raised because there wouldn't be an email undermining his campaign
if he hadn't sent the email in the first place.
And actually, I think it is in the best interests
of everyone who's voting in the Wellington elections this year

(01:41):
that that email has been released so that Wellingtonians can
understand the character of the people that they are voting for.
I am surprised that there are professional adults out there
who think it is a good idea to send an
email like that in which you basically defame a colleague.
This went beyond gossip, I mean office gossip. Look, we
all know it when we see it, we all hear it,
we indulge in it, we shouldn't. But it is quite

(02:03):
something else to put it in writing and then send
it to your colleagues, made much worse by the fact
that it is not just gossip, but it is also
sexual gossip. Now, Ray Chung's campaign, I would say, is over.
And instead of feeling sorry for himself and wallowing and
how bad he is being done by other people, he
should just consider withdrawing from the race at this point.

(02:25):
And frankly every Wellington City councilor needs to reflect on
this because the fact that this kind of email could
be sent to colleagues who then passed it around until
it reached Tory Fano and the media says to me
that there is a deeply dysfunctional culture in that place.
No one comes out of this looking good, least of
all Ray Chungs.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, I mean, have divorce for reality. All these people
really need to be. They're in their own weird bubble world,
don't they. That was Heather, by the way, I think
I forgot to introduce.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Her at the beginning. It's Heather all week. Mike back
next week. The rewrap right so.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
News today that the Blues Super Rugby team might consider
playing at Mount Smart stop playing at Eton Park for
some reason.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Probably sensible, don't you think for the Blues to consider
leaving Eden Park for Mount Smart. It's not going to
fix the attendance issues, though they seem to be hoping
it's going to fix the crowd. In the consultation, they're
asking a question of fans. They're asking them whether moving
to Mount Smart will make them quote more or less
likely to attend the Blue Super Rugby men's home games.
The fans may look at that and go yeah and

(03:32):
say yes, but they won't. Mount Smart is no better
than Eden Park. It's not easier to get there with
public transport. It's about the same. If you drive, you're
still going to have to find a car park somewhere
on the road or on private property. You're still going
to be exposed to the elements in the stand. You're
still going to be paying for your beer and your
chips instead of getting them out of your kitchen. Maybe
you could argue that Mount Smart has a slight advantage

(03:52):
in that you're coming straight off the motorway instead of
fighting to get down Dominion Road in a traffic jam,
but I don't think that's enough of a difference to
supercharge a crowd. Maybe you could argue that because the
Warriors and the Oakland Football Club are their form fans
former habit, so they go because they know how to go.
But again I don't think that's the problem. I think
the problem is just Super Rugby, right. You're seeing poor

(04:14):
turnout for Super Rugby regular season around the country. Muana
pacifica six thousand turned up Crusaders one of their games.
Only thirteen thousand turned up Blues. Blues versus the Crusaders,
one of the great matches, only eleven thousand turned up.
Now eleven thousand and a fifty thousand stadium looks horrible.
Eleven thousand in a twenty five thousand stadium like Mount Smart.

(04:36):
Mount Smart looks less bad. But it is giving up,
isn't it. I mean, the Blues leaving the home of
rugby is basically accepting that this is now how it is.
That the crowd size of eleven thousand is simply how
it's going to be, and then they're downscaling accordingly. What
they really should be doing is finding smart ways to
get us to come to the super rugby games again,
I don't know. Find ways to get the family along,

(04:57):
get the kid zone going like they do at Eden
Park with the bouncy castle, that kind of thing. Find
ways to get us excited about the game of rugby.
It's a boring product. Make it less boring. Unless they
do that. Crowds that only quarter filler stadium are the future,
and which case absolutely move to Mount Smart, then a
smaller stadium is going to hide those empty seats a
whole lot better.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Can we go a.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Week without somebody angsting over stadiums in Auckland.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
It just seems to be a constant at all.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And besides which, surely the Blues are only saying this
stuff so they can get a better deal with Eden Park, Right,
That's how I see it now. For years we've been
criticizing and when I say we, not me because I
can't really be bothered because I don't have kids to go.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
To school anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
But other people have been criticizing INCEA for being completely useless.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
But now it looks like it it might be a
bit better.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
We've got the pass results, the pass rates for the
NCEEA co requisite exam. Now you'll know this if you've
got kids of the sage, right, if they're doing the NCEEA,
they have to now pass this exam, this corequisite. It's
compulsory in order to be able to get the Level
one or the Level two or the level three. Man alive.
Let me tell you, like, the numbers are better, but
holy heck, they're not that flash are they. I mean,

(06:15):
look at this for example, numerously weak. Last year we
had forty five percent of the kids passing the maths now,
thank god, we've got fifty seven percent. Fifty seven percent
though that's not flash. And then it's even worse when
you have a look in the lower decile schools, thirty
four percent of those kids are passing it. Anyway, we
can kind of figure out probably why things are getting better,

(06:36):
which is that the screws are being put on the
educators and the expectation is that the kids start passing,
but why it's so slow.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It was an interesting interview with the Education minister this
morning on this and her view basically seem to be
that she'd told the teachers to teach a bit better
and they'd gone all right, and that's what's caused the improvement.
So I guess she goes back to them now and says, hey,

(07:04):
can you teach a bit better still? And then thank
you ample with that, we're really in business, rewrap.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
So I think climate change is a thing.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
As Britain ascends into its third heat wave of the
summer already, and obviously we've seen some interesting weather related
events happening around the world, top of our North Island, Texas,
New Mexico.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
But in saying that, I don't know that we want.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
To dramitize or catestrophize things too much, do we ready?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
In New Zealand, little interesting observation about climate change reporting
this morning, Ian Wishart. Remember Ian Wishart, He this is
not to beat up on our n Z at all.
OURNZ is just the example that's being used in this.
But he heard an r n Z story about climate
change is Radio New Zealand and he didn't like what
he heard. He thought it was inaccurate, so he complained

(08:07):
to Watchdog's got completely different outcomes from that complaint. So
what the story was, It was about the fact that
Hamilton had been having this amazing run of really hot days.
It had like maybe about two weeks or something like
that of days that had about twenty seven degrees. And
what the story sets It had a headline along the
lines of smashed records, right, and then it quoted a

(08:31):
met Service forecaster and climate scientist called Luke Harrington who said,
the last ten days, well actually now eleven have been
the hottest continuous ten or eleven day stretch. Certainly of
the records that I have available, they go back to
sort of the early nineteen nineties. But I think if
you went further back in time as well, they'd still
remain the worst on record. So the impression that you

(08:53):
get from that is geez. Even the experts are saying
Hamilton has never been this hot for this long. Well
Ian Wishardt took issue with that and said, actually, that's
not true. Historic newspaper records revealed that Hamilton endured an
almost unbroken streak of sixty two days of above twenty
seven degrees in the summer of nineteen thirty four thirty five.

(09:16):
So he complained to both the BSA Broadcasting Standards Authority
and also the Media Council about this. Broadcasting Standards Authority
had no issue. They were like, no problem with what
rn Z has said here because there's no breach of
the accuracy standard because the language used likely might have probably,
I think, kind of gave them a bit a regal room,

(09:37):
like they thought it was the case, but not really
the case, so they kind of got away with it.
So BSA was like, no problem at all. Media Council
was a little bit tougher. The Media Council said the
website report they didn't mind too much, but it was
the headline they took issue with, which was the smashed
records thing they upheld it anyway. As a result of that,

(09:58):
RNZ had to change the story. Now, it's an interesting observation,
isn't it that two different watchdogs will have two completely
different ways of interpreting whether something is accurate or not.
But also I think it is much a personally. Personally,
I find it much more interesting that we are we
have experts who are prepared to just sort of declare

(10:18):
that something is the worst thing we have ever seen
and actually not gone back as far as possible and
found out whether it truly is. Because I feel like
the nineteen thirty four to thirty five summer completely changes things,
don't you think.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, I think where Radio New Zealand really went
wrong was talking to a meteorologist because surely we all
know they're know nothing bozos because they just continually get
it wrong.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Then they're the most unaccountable people out there. Just about
them holsters and.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Economics experts who make economics economic forecasts. I put them
all on the same boat, and I don't know why
we listen to any of them so re wrap. I mean,
for all, I know that's why we lost that satellite
where the fullcast is are on.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Do you know what's weird? I think this is weird.
What is weird is how weird Judith Collins as being
about that satellite that went missing. Now you know what
I'm talking about, right, This happened a couple of weeks ago,
a couple of three weeks ago or something like that.
The methane satellite, the one that we're pumped about, I
think about twenty nine to thirty two million or something
like that into it went up. It was supposed to
measure all the methane nark on, the knark on all

(11:31):
the oil fields and the gas fields and stuff that
are leaking gas and blah blah blah. Anyway, it's spun
off into space and no one knows where it is.
And I would have thought, well there that that thus
ends the story, doesn't it. You've seen something into space,
there is a chance that it will float off. Space
is a big place. But now Judith Collins doesn't want
to answer any questions about this, and of course we

(11:53):
have questions, rightly so, because there's you know, tens of
millions of taxpayer dollars that have been put into it.
She repeatedly refuses to answer questions. Has referred all questions,
including questions about whether the government will hold a review,
to the Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employer which is
where the Space Agency is housed. Now that's one way
to make you wonder what's going on here, isn't it?

(12:14):
If the minister won't answer questions, all of a sudden,
you go, is there a mystery I should be interested in?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Now?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's your classic alien cover up, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
If this was Donald Trump's America, they'd be all over
it like a rash over the Epstein files. I am
now fascinated now I actually want the questions to be answered,
and I didn't before, So that that's backfiring spectacularly.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
If I've heard it once, I've heard it a thousand times.
Aliens shoot down the satellite. Government doesn't want to tell
every Iden because they're worried that the old panic, and
then before you know it, we're you know, being harvested
for food.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Again.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I am a glen hat sorry about that alien apocalypse
update there at the end, But you know it's going
to call it like I see it, and I'll see
you back here again with more big calls like that tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
M HM.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
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