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August 28, 2025 • 13 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Took Him Long Enough/What a Wacky Old Story/Mark the Week/Between the BSA and a Hard Place/What Beer Is For

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday. All
the best bets from the mic costuming breakfast on Newsbalks.
It'd be in a sillier package. I am Glenn Heart
and today more information perhaps the last piece in the
tricksaw puzzle that surrounds Adrian Or's departure ZBRA Reserve Bank
Governor and will mark the week because it is Friday,

(00:46):
and that.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is what we do.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Speaking of weird organizations that we don't understand how they work,
the BSA, Mikecius's regular complain about that, and then we're
going to tuck into some zero alcohol beer the before
any of that. Are we growing and are we doing
it faster than Australia?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Tell you what I got a sense this week. And
it's not because it's about to be spring, although that
will undoubtedly help. But I got to since this week
that the tide on the New Zealand story is turning.
The ongoing stats like the size of the infrastructure pipeline,
more money this year, more money in projects for years
to come. Are the new visas and the visas that
are working better than we thought. Those gold visas, money,
jobs and culture are on their way. But the gold

(01:24):
medal goes to the dawning realization that we are about
to outgrow outperform Australia, and not just next year. For
a number of years. The stats have been there. I
mean the Reserve Bank Governor in Australia reduced to her
GDP forecast the other day and that number is below ours,
which is about two and a halfish percent, maybe more.
But put it together, as Westpac did, call it a report,
lay it out for all to see, and pennies start dropping.

(01:46):
And why it's so important is a lot of our
plight is as much mental as it is physical. Australia
has a myriad of real issues, believe me, from housing
to debt, to transport to race. We do too, but
they've never sunk like us. Part of what is and
has held us back is too many have decided that
we're stuffed, so they left, but left for what? What
is the psychology of moving countries or pay? You say, well,

(02:09):
yes can be, but not always And I'll tell you
this for nothing. The pay gap does not bridge the
house gap. But do those leaving realize that, or they
don't care, or they don't even know. Obviously, what bogged
it down this year was the survived to twenty five
thing starterwell in January never took off, so we were
what sold a lemon of false dawn. What this report
this week does though, and it's not alone. There's plenty

(02:30):
of material out there if you hunt for it. But
what the report does is quantify our reality between the
law changes, the visas, the farmers, the currency, all the
fixes and reforms. It adds up to an irrefutable picture
of change that is about to pay dividends. The pieces
seem to be fitting together, but the prize is they
paint a better picture than our nearest neighbor, our greatest friends,

(02:52):
our biggest opponent. We're not just beating anyone. We are
beating Australia. And when that comes to pass, watch the move. Then.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So this will be these green shoots. I keep hearing
about that. I also heard it described as a green tinge.
In fact, somebody we talked to I think it was
this week or late last week.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I think they have even used the word strong breeze.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
But then today we did have somebody also talking about
soggy employment, and we've got sticky.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Inflation as well.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I don't know how it all just sounds like
wiping mold off the windows to me, the rewrap put
it bogged down, and the metaphors and the similies.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Let's just focus on Adrian Or. I know what you're thinking,
isn't he gone? Isn't he long gone?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, the Adrian Or reference, it's the weirdest thing. Slowly
but surely, drip drip, drip, drip drip. Through the Official
Information Act, we find out that basically Adrian Or was
just a massive egotist. So the latest is there was
the rumors and later confirmed. He had a big bust
up with Treasury, had a big bust up with Nichola Willis.
The board right to him and said, mat, can you
tone it down? And he said, get stuffed, And it
was all over the business of the funding from the government.

(04:04):
He didn't think he could run the Reserve Bank on
less than a billion dollars, mate, pull your head in.
So they wrote to him and he agreed to quit.
This is all happening in early March. Rejecting the assertions
from the board, the board wrote and said, look, this
is a bit ott. He agreed there was a lack
of trust between the parties, that's Treasury and the government.
He then resigned March five on the condition the board

(04:25):
withdrew the letter that it sent to him. The letter
they sent to him basically said, mate, can you pull
your head in? They had an exit agreement quickly fronted
March five refused to detail what happened. It wasn't till
June eleven, the RB said, or resigned because he disagreed
with the board over the amount of government funding. These
clowns had just come clean in the first place and
just just run it like I run this program. Tell

(04:46):
it like it. It's right you go. Look, Adrian got
really pissed off. He had a couple of meetings in
which he yelled. We wrote to him and said, mate,
you can't do that because you're the Reserve Bank governor,
at which he said, get stuffed, I'm off, and we said,
okay the end. If they said that, no one would
care because everyone's lost their rag in a meeting. You
don't have to work for a place if you don't

(05:07):
like it. He'll go and get some other job. He's
happy as and we can all move on. But we've
taken months to get to the bottom of this nonsense,
and I think finally we're there.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's sort of like.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
High school, isn't it, When somebody said something about somebody
and they got angry and next thing you know, it's
like a scene.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
From Heathers Rerap right.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
He Let's Mark the Week, brought to you by mister
Optimism Mike Husking.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Time out to mark the week, little piece of news
and current of incidence as popular as a booklet. Rapid
Fashion Week in ZE seven as in New Zealand seven,
third safest country in the world and about to outgrow Australia.
I mean, how's that for open? Is the worry? Is seven?
More reason for hope? Two to go a decent winter night?
It's the shabby old fourteenth placed eels For goodness sake,
how bad can it be? Exactly? Retail spending six up

(05:59):
and with it just a hint of the second quarter
may not have been as bad as many thought. Horticulture
New Zealand seven now their planned to double export returns
within ten years. That's the sort of attitude that turns
tids more. Please. Major Events Fund seven now the dormant
events industry leads to empty hotel rooms, as we've been
told this week, So stand by for the reognition of
that foreign buying houses or foreigners buying houses eight, the

(06:22):
final piece in the immigration visa get money in jobs
and culture into the country puzzle. Stand by for the announcements.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Quickly.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Aqueen Sergia six as in Praias as a and is
mate botas another team more intriguing in the season resumes,
of course this week in at Zandfort. So I'm super
excited about that. Shauna Laughlin eight, Shawn's my hero of
the week. He took at to Courtney one Brain's one
arrogance Nil Nicola v Tory six. Who doesn't love a
bitch slap and who doesn't think Nikola has an excellent
point on that A Principles four or at least the

(06:55):
ones who wrote to the Education minister asking for her
to stop her reforms. I mean in that letter is
so much that's wrong with education. People are over seeing
failure and yet not wanting change. Putin three, I know
what the hell I'm doing? Ah, you forgot that one,
didn't where's the meeting? Where's the place, where's the time,
where's the venue, where's the date? Did Trump get stiffed?
I think you might have skiing four for Glenn? Yeah,

(07:18):
I would argue we have had, or at least some
of us have had. I reckon a superb winter, long,
clear blue, sunny days, but they weren't from the South.
Of course, in the South brings the snow, and they
hasn't been much of that. Travis and the Missus eight.
I mean, here's the plan. The Oltum comes out, he
wins the super Bowl, the marriage is sold to Vanity Fair,
and we all live happily ever after. I think that's
how it goes, isn't And that's the weak copies on

(07:38):
the website and good news because of the value of
marking the week, and for all those of you that
ship copies to the States. This is not affected by
the deminimus.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Issues and my defense, and it's only a partial defense
because I know that the mark was a four, but
he'd written on the script ding. I think he was
feeling so optimistic, which is kind of like a running
theme of the morning that he hasn't been sounding optimistic
enough lately, so in order to remedy that, he'd written ding,
even though he'd given him a mark of four, which

(08:07):
is why I because I read ding, but I should
have read four and thought, no, that's a buzz.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
See.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
This is the kind of behind the scenes mark the
week stuff that you come to this podcast for.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I know she rewrapped.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Look if you don't like it, you can file a complaint,
all right.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Between a rock and a hard place. This morning the
BSA who I can't stand the broadcasting stanzas authority and
gave us a reason yet again this week to just
completely blow them up and get rid of them and
save some money. They've not upheld a complaint for low
level swearing. So this was of course on National radio.
They were discussing a controversial incident in parliament. This was

(08:45):
the Jasindra dounbook, and Jacinda was on National radio because
that's where she loves, lives and belongs. She called this
is the famous one. This is when she called David
Seymour an arrogant prick. So, mister James Allerdyce, who I
suspect I want to say, I know that name from somewhere.
I suspect he might be a serial complainer anyway, James,

(09:07):
Mister James Allerdyce complains that using the word prick on
national public radio was unacceptable in a breach of several
broadcasting standards. Well, guess what it isn't. Obviously it isn't.
And so he wasted everybody's time. And they all sat
in a meeting around a table and they considered whether
James was wasting their time, and they decided he did,
and so it did no harm. They decided it's a

(09:27):
relatively low level insult and would not have caused widespread
offense or disressed to the audience, no kidding. So preck preck, Preck,
preck Preck. There you go. James complained about that, and
we're not even on public radio. My point being, it's
that's what it's got to. That was the singer. As
far as I can work out, that's the singular story
that came out of the presence of the broadcasting standards

(09:49):
authority that you and I pay for in this country.
They are literally wasting their time with people like Allardyce,
who has clearly bored out of his brain. Now, why
am I between a rock and a hard place? My mate, John,
my mate John. I ran into John as I was
leaving this building a couple of weeks ago, and there
was John and John and I had a great chet.
John's on the BSA. So that got a bit orkies

(10:12):
because I said, how are you going? John? Anyways, I'm good,
and I said, what do you have to these days?
You guys? Well, obviously I'm on the BSA And he
looked at me and that we all know what you
think of the BSA kind of look, and I went,
are you anything else? So fortunately was doing other things.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm starting to understand why you only ever spend about
ten minutes at parties, at the three parties that I've
ever seen you at.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, it's just that people go, I know what you
think about this, so we won't continue that particular conversation.
Or I heard what you said about me the other
day and yeah, I'm still not over it. Everyone's entitled
to their own view, Mike. But then again, did you
need to say what you said the other day about me?
Stuff like that? It's hard enough being me and I
on need just work precisely. You're you're through double glades.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I'm not even that close.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
And after seventeen years, your skin so I think it
doesn't really matter. It's all the water off a duck's back.
Sam still a bit fragile, So Sam still cries a bit.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's tough him up.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
He's crying the other day of the boss about something
I said. You know what, it's like, I said, hardened up,
put on your big boy pant.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Ironically, Sam actually is extremely hard but he works out.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
He's got muscles on his muscles. So he's the.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Last member of the show that actually needs to hadd
on that. I'm obviously the most squidgy one. Mike's kind
of like sort of wafty willow we wafty flow away
in a strong wind.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
The rewrap.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Because it's Friday, it's the weekend. Come on, let's have
a bear. What do you reckon? But what's the purpose
of beer?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Just quickly on the zero alcohol. What we didn't realize
because Glenn was asleep and didn't give me the information
is we do, in fact have a company called State
of Play, which is New Zealand's first and only zero
alcohol brewery. So in other words, that's all they do
now can I And the guy called Grant who runs it,

(11:59):
he's been in the business for years and he used
to work at Heineken and all that sort of stuff,
and that's great, and so he obviously knows what he's doing.
But what a massive call, isn't it. So there's a
trend towards zero alcohol. My problem as a semi non
drinker is I've not experienced a zero alcohol that is
worth my while. So I'd rather not have anything than

(12:20):
taste something that's not quite what it should be. To
enter into a market and do nothing but a niche
product is a very, very big call. But that is
potentially what makes this country great because there are people
willing to back themselves, their experience, put their money and
their name and the reputation on the line and take
a punt.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
And you think, oh, that's about boot take. I bet
it's expensive.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Is it cheap?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I'm just looking at it. Here. You can get a
mixed box of twenty four cans of their different.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Let me guess, twenty four cans, four three fours, twenty four,
seventy five, seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh man, you have off seventy five bucks.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
That's pretty good value.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Ye know.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm good at price points. And it's just a little
party trick of mind.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I've got to say, I'm looking at the picture of
the stat and I'm literally salivating because it looks like
the real.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Deal, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
He looks like it's got a little body to it,
nice thick head on it. And then I'm thinking, yeah,
but why do I drink stout in the first place?
Isn't it because it generally has a higher alcohol condem.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Surely it's not, is it?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Am I really drinking it just for the flavor?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Is that what it's come to? I think I'll stay
on the sure as Tonat. I can't. I can't be
thinking about this. It's too it's got it's got too existential.
I am Glen Hart.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
The have around on me, and we'll see there here
again on Monday for the for the Monday edition.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I guess that seems to be the best day to
have a Monday edition

Speaker 1 (13:57):
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