December 14, 2025 • 11 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Why Do We Have to Be Angry?/The Gift That Says I Owe You/This Debate Is Getting Ridiculous/Passport Pressure/When Updates Go Wrong
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said B.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap. Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Monday, all
the best bits from the mic hosting breakfast on News Talk,
said B. Guest starring Heather at Dupless Allen. The sentence
has got so long, I've forgotten how it's supposed to
be in and a sillier package. That's right this morning,
(00:45):
what have we got for you? Well, we're going to
talk about interest rates, because what could be more of
Christmasy than thinking about those? The Big Willis versus Richardson
Celebrity Death Match. If your passport's expiring, don't worry, you're
not alone, or worry because you're alone. And I'll try
(01:05):
and explain to hither about iOS updates for any of that.
The BONDI shooting overnights, what can you say?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Look, I don't want to turn something that has happened
into Australia into something that involves all of us, but
I think that there is some merit in everyone in
Western English speaking Commonwealth countries just having a bit of
a stop and a think about how it is that
we have found ourselves back in a place where anti
Semitism is now so widespread and so pronounced that something
like the Bondi shooting happens now. Again, I am not
(01:35):
a portioning blame to anyone other than the people who
have fired those shots, but it cannot escape our attention
that anti Semitism, and let's call it for what it
sometimes does, become hatred of Jewish people, has become normalized
enough for people to just say it out loud to
each other. There was a sign that was graffitied in
Wellington recently. I feel like it might have been last
year in the ro Valley. It said I hated Jews
(01:57):
before it was cool, which shocked me. And the obvious
answer is that this sentiment is a reaction to what
the State of Israel has done in Gaza in the
last two years, and that that has fomented that fear.
But let's be honest about this and be historically accurate here.
This anti Semitism that we're going through right now actually
predates the war in Gaza. The Gaza war just made
(02:18):
it okay, if you want to put that in quotation marks,
to say it out loud now. Obviously I don't need
to tell you the Jewish people celebrating Hunaker at the
Bondai Beach were not the soldiers or the politicians involved
in the Gaza War. They were just Aussies. They were
just mums and dads and kids and young people having fun.
And it blows my mind that we haven't even allowed
one hundred years to pass before this community is living
(02:41):
in our living in fear in countries, in places like Australia. Again,
I would just urge all of us to stop and
think about the fact that being angry at a state
is one thing, but being angry at people who live
on the other side of the world and have absolutely
nothing to do with it is quite another.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Could we just stop being angry maybe and direct that
energy into something more productive like hugs and the presences
miles that it'd be my preference anyway, So rewrap right?
Is Santa bringing you a lower interest rate for Christmas?
(03:18):
I don't know, but here this seems to know all
about it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
If you weren't already feeling confident about twenty twenty six,
I've got two reasons that you should at least two
major retail bank see Signs of an Economic recovery next
year and we have a new Reserve Bank governor now
no pressure on Anna Bremen, but she hasn't arrived a
day too soon, given that the old lot we're still
managing to stuff things up until literally the last chance
they had with Christian hawksby saying whoopsie the wrong thing
(03:42):
and then sending the wholesale market rates and therefore the
fixed term interest rates up by thirty basis points. Now,
to be fair to him, he was only the fillain
and if we're honest with ourselves, it's probably more hope
than certainty that the Swedish import will be any better
than hawksby and all. But then again you could argue
it really would be hard to be worse given the
last four years. But we're here for the good news
at the moment he hears the good news for you.
(04:03):
The good news is that Anna Bremen arriving as the
new broom coincides with ASB and now key we Bank
all saying it's on the are seeing recovery signs for
twenty twenty six. Kiwibanks call arguably matters more than anyone
out in any one others, because these guys have been
the gloomiest. They've been calling for more rate cuts than
the Reserve Bank was prepared for, warning it was more
grim out there than the Wellington Bank is realized. And
(04:24):
Kiwibank has been right consistently, So here's hoping they're right
again when they say sales are already up, and when
sales go up, everything else goes up. House prices are
up two to three percent next year. The economy is
growing two point four percent next year, and then it's
three percent the following year. Now, I don't know about you,
but that combo, a new person in charge of the
Central Bank and growing consensus that the recovery is now
(04:45):
on is probably the best Christmas present I could have
wished for.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And there maybe a bottle of bourbon.
You know, then I'd better be the ideal thanks that
if I keep both? But is it greedy to ask
for both? If it's one or the other, go with
the bourbon? A rewrap right? Ding ding ding ding? Is
it way in time yet? Versus Richard Stern fight to
(05:10):
the death? Hang on? Winston Peters as the referee? What's
going on now?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
This?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Can I just say I'm here for this debate? But
this debate between Nichola and Ruth is getting more and
more ridiculous by the day, because I don't know if
you've heard what the latest is, but there is, for
one hot minute, they thought that the moderator should be Winston.
And apparently apparently this idea has emanated from within my household.
Nicola texts me last night. She said it was Barry's idea.
(05:39):
So apparently Barry Soaper came up with the idea that
Winston should be the moderator and then pitched it to
Nichola's office, and then nicholas office were like, hmm, thank
the good Lord Winston is otherwise occupied and will not
be doing it because I'll tell you there's no chance
that you would get to hear anything from Nichola or Ruth.
It would just be the Winston show talking about I
don't know, you know, the evils of capitalist that no thanks,
(06:01):
I want to hear from the ladies anyway. Barry can
defend himself. I think it's a terrible idea. I'm not
allowed to say that. I'm not allowed to tell him anymore,
like its off limits in the house. I'm not allowed
to say your idea sucks. So I just say it
on the radio to you and then he can defend
it later on. We just we just have that, like
just have a fight through you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But against That's how most marriages work.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's normal.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah yeah, nah, yeah, I mean I think if more
people just used an entire network radio station to you know,
ab grievances through the will be a happier place. Don't
you reckon the rerap. Okay, if your passport has expired
(06:41):
or is about to expire, don't worry, I know, sorry, worry.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Just a quick public service announcement to you. If you
have a passport like myself running out in twenty six
twenty seven, you're gonna want to get onto this right.
Don't leave it like until a month before or two
months before you go to Bali to try and get
and think it'll be fine. It will not be fine.
Is a massive logjam coming. One point three million passports
are expiring in in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.
(07:10):
It's worse than twenty seven, by the way, it's like
six hundred and twenty two thousand next year, and there's
seven hundred and sixty thousand the following year. And these
guys are going to be just absolutely snowed under. So
get your ugly photo taken, send it in early, and
then you're not going to be stressing out ahead of
your holiday. And when you sit on the plane with
your ugly new passport as they always are, just think
of me. I helped you with that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Do you reckon that the quality of passport photos has
gone up or down since you know, we started being
allowed to take them ourselves. Take the photos ourselves. It
always results in an argument. When I do them, I
get told that I've taken them wrong, and then they
look terrible and it'sill my fault. So I think probably
(07:54):
down three rap right, We're going to finish up with
speaking of doing things with your phone. Heathers trying to
update hers and has not had much success.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We need to talk about the iPhone and the iOS update. Now,
if you are sitting there going what the actual heck
has just happened to my phone? It's buggier than normal,
you are not imagining it. The tech This is like
ioways update twenty six or something.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Who cares zero point two to be precise?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, that's the one. The tech guys say they normally
see the most crashes that will happen immediately after you
have the update, but this time it's not just immediately
after the update. It just carries on. So there is
more than just what they call the typical short term
decrease in stability. They say what you should be experiencing
is an increase in cold start times, which is like
(08:43):
the time it takes to start the phone or start
an app. Frequency of forced restarts should go up with you,
so you get frustrated and then you're like, you know,
whatever you do, I can't remember you double tap something
and then you flick it up or whatever, and then
you shut the thing down. And also user reports of
app quality issues has increased. Apple never admit, like, then,
Apple aren't going to come out and go, yeah, it's
that one sucked, didn't it. They never admit they've done
(09:05):
anything wrong. But they've got some reshuffles going up at
the top of the business which indicate that they need
to sort of sort things out. I I don't know
if the problems that I'm experiencing have to do with
the I think they do kind of. I mean, when
you find it, there's ano the worst So the iois
update's got jammed it's seventy five percent update on my phone,
and so it's just because it needs a huge amount
(09:26):
of space to do it storage, So it's just gone
like halfway th that was seventy five. I'm stuck. So
now I've got all the storage taken up by an
iOS update that ain't happening, so I can't take photos,
send you a text if if I haven't replied to
your text, I don't even know that you've text me.
It's just gone into like a some vultext. Anyway, Ed
says he's an air to the boss who and frankly
Jason the boss who's like c sweet level and absolutely
(09:49):
doesn't need to deal with this. They're all going to
have to try and help me because the iOS update
is that ad.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think there's basically a flying squad that's been assigned
to yours is okay, Yeah, I'm on Android at the moment,
so none of it's acting me. I forget.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, Anyway, they carry on like this. I'm going to
be an Android in a minute. So anyway, why I'm
telling you this is you're not going mad. Is happening
to you, and yes it's a first will problem, but
you're it's okay to be upset about a first will problem.
This is my inner dialogue at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So there are three, you know, maybe four iPhones operating
in my house at the moment, and over the weekend
I managed to update, yeah, four different ones. Two of
those were because the domestic manager was moving from an
older one to a newer one and they both had
(10:37):
to be updated for that to happen, apparently. But anyway,
it all went without a hitch. The only thing I
really got wrong is that I assume because she's quite
fast sighted so she needs the quite strong reading glasses
to read things, that she would want all the fonts
and icons to be nice and big when I set
(10:58):
it up. And then I had that wrong apparently, so
I had to sort that out for her. But yeah,
apart from everything else, it seemed to go very well.
I think the iPhone actually, when it comes from changing
from one iPhone to another iPhone, that's the easiest phone
change you can do. Take it from a guy who's
changed backwards and forwards between about ten different phones this
(11:21):
year for his tech reviews, iPhones do it the easiest.
I'll see you back here again tomorrow, hopefully this phone
will be working both men.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
For more from News Talk st B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap. Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Monday, all
the best bits from the mic hosting breakfast on News Talk,
said B. Guest starring Heather at Dupless Allen. The sentence
has got so long, I've forgotten how it's supposed to
be in and a sillier package. That's right this morning,
(00:45):
what have we got for you? Well, we're going to
talk about interest rates, because what could be more of
Christmasy than thinking about those? The Big Willis versus Richardson
Celebrity Death Match. If your passport's expiring, don't worry, you're
not alone, or worry because you're alone. And I'll try
(01:05):
and explain to hither about iOS updates for any of that.
The BONDI shooting overnights, what can you say?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Look, I don't want to turn something that has happened
into Australia into something that involves all of us, but
I think that there is some merit in everyone in
Western English speaking Commonwealth countries just having a bit of
a stop and a think about how it is that
we have found ourselves back in a place where anti
Semitism is now so widespread and so pronounced that something
like the Bondi shooting happens now. Again, I am not
(01:35):
a portioning blame to anyone other than the people who
have fired those shots, but it cannot escape our attention
that anti Semitism, and let's call it for what it
sometimes does, become hatred of Jewish people, has become normalized
enough for people to just say it out loud to
each other. There was a sign that was graffitied in
Wellington recently. I feel like it might have been last
year in the ro Valley. It said I hated Jews
(01:57):
before it was cool, which shocked me. And the obvious
answer is that this sentiment is a reaction to what
the State of Israel has done in Gaza in the
last two years, and that that has fomented that fear.
But let's be honest about this and be historically accurate here.
This anti Semitism that we're going through right now actually
predates the war in Gaza. The Gaza war just made
(02:18):
it okay, if you want to put that in quotation marks,
to say it out loud now. Obviously I don't need
to tell you the Jewish people celebrating Hunaker at the
Bondai Beach were not the soldiers or the politicians involved
in the Gaza War. They were just Aussies. They were
just mums and dads and kids and young people having fun.
And it blows my mind that we haven't even allowed
one hundred years to pass before this community is living
(02:41):
in our living in fear in countries, in places like Australia. Again,
I would just urge all of us to stop and
think about the fact that being angry at a state
is one thing, but being angry at people who live
on the other side of the world and have absolutely
nothing to do with it is quite another.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Could we just stop being angry maybe and direct that
energy into something more productive like hugs and the presences
miles that it'd be my preference anyway, So rewrap right?
Is Santa bringing you a lower interest rate for Christmas?
(03:18):
I don't know, but here this seems to know all
about it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
If you weren't already feeling confident about twenty twenty six,
I've got two reasons that you should at least two
major retail bank see Signs of an Economic recovery next
year and we have a new Reserve Bank governor now
no pressure on Anna Bremen, but she hasn't arrived a
day too soon, given that the old lot we're still
managing to stuff things up until literally the last chance
they had with Christian hawksby saying whoopsie the wrong thing
(03:42):
and then sending the wholesale market rates and therefore the
fixed term interest rates up by thirty basis points. Now,
to be fair to him, he was only the fillain
and if we're honest with ourselves, it's probably more hope
than certainty that the Swedish import will be any better
than hawksby and all. But then again you could argue
it really would be hard to be worse given the
last four years. But we're here for the good news
at the moment he hears the good news for you.
(04:03):
The good news is that Anna Bremen arriving as the
new broom coincides with ASB and now key we Bank
all saying it's on the are seeing recovery signs for
twenty twenty six. Kiwibanks call arguably matters more than anyone
out in any one others, because these guys have been
the gloomiest. They've been calling for more rate cuts than
the Reserve Bank was prepared for, warning it was more
grim out there than the Wellington Bank is realized. And
(04:24):
Kiwibank has been right consistently, So here's hoping they're right
again when they say sales are already up, and when
sales go up, everything else goes up. House prices are
up two to three percent next year. The economy is
growing two point four percent next year, and then it's
three percent the following year. Now, I don't know about you,
but that combo, a new person in charge of the
Central Bank and growing consensus that the recovery is now
(04:45):
on is probably the best Christmas present I could have
wished for.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And there maybe a bottle of bourbon.
You know, then I'd better be the ideal thanks that
if I keep both? But is it greedy to ask
for both? If it's one or the other, go with
the bourbon? A rewrap right? Ding ding ding ding? Is
it way in time yet? Versus Richard Stern fight to
(05:10):
the death? Hang on? Winston Peters as the referee? What's
going on now?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
This?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Can I just say I'm here for this debate? But
this debate between Nichola and Ruth is getting more and
more ridiculous by the day, because I don't know if
you've heard what the latest is, but there is, for
one hot minute, they thought that the moderator should be Winston.
And apparently apparently this idea has emanated from within my household.
Nicola texts me last night. She said it was Barry's idea.
(05:39):
So apparently Barry Soaper came up with the idea that
Winston should be the moderator and then pitched it to
Nichola's office, and then nicholas office were like, hmm, thank
the good Lord Winston is otherwise occupied and will not
be doing it because I'll tell you there's no chance
that you would get to hear anything from Nichola or Ruth.
It would just be the Winston show talking about I
don't know, you know, the evils of capitalist that no thanks,
(06:01):
I want to hear from the ladies anyway. Barry can
defend himself. I think it's a terrible idea. I'm not
allowed to say that. I'm not allowed to tell him anymore,
like its off limits in the house. I'm not allowed
to say your idea sucks. So I just say it
on the radio to you and then he can defend
it later on. We just we just have that, like
just have a fight through you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But against That's how most marriages work.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's normal.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah yeah, nah, yeah, I mean I think if more
people just used an entire network radio station to you know,
ab grievances through the will be a happier place. Don't
you reckon the rerap. Okay, if your passport has expired
(06:41):
or is about to expire, don't worry, I know, sorry, worry.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Just a quick public service announcement to you. If you
have a passport like myself running out in twenty six
twenty seven, you're gonna want to get onto this right.
Don't leave it like until a month before or two
months before you go to Bali to try and get
and think it'll be fine. It will not be fine.
Is a massive logjam coming. One point three million passports
are expiring in in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.
(07:10):
It's worse than twenty seven, by the way, it's like
six hundred and twenty two thousand next year, and there's
seven hundred and sixty thousand the following year. And these
guys are going to be just absolutely snowed under. So
get your ugly photo taken, send it in early, and
then you're not going to be stressing out ahead of
your holiday. And when you sit on the plane with
your ugly new passport as they always are, just think
of me. I helped you with that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Do you reckon that the quality of passport photos has
gone up or down since you know, we started being
allowed to take them ourselves. Take the photos ourselves. It
always results in an argument. When I do them, I
get told that I've taken them wrong, and then they
look terrible and it'sill my fault. So I think probably
(07:54):
down three rap right, We're going to finish up with
speaking of doing things with your phone. Heathers trying to
update hers and has not had much success.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We need to talk about the iPhone and the iOS update. Now,
if you are sitting there going what the actual heck
has just happened to my phone? It's buggier than normal,
you are not imagining it. The tech This is like
ioways update twenty six or something.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Who cares zero point two to be precise?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, that's the one. The tech guys say they normally
see the most crashes that will happen immediately after you
have the update, but this time it's not just immediately
after the update. It just carries on. So there is
more than just what they call the typical short term
decrease in stability. They say what you should be experiencing
is an increase in cold start times, which is like
(08:43):
the time it takes to start the phone or start
an app. Frequency of forced restarts should go up with you,
so you get frustrated and then you're like, you know,
whatever you do, I can't remember you double tap something
and then you flick it up or whatever, and then
you shut the thing down. And also user reports of
app quality issues has increased. Apple never admit, like, then,
Apple aren't going to come out and go, yeah, it's
that one sucked, didn't it. They never admit they've done
(09:05):
anything wrong. But they've got some reshuffles going up at
the top of the business which indicate that they need
to sort of sort things out. I I don't know
if the problems that I'm experiencing have to do with
the I think they do kind of. I mean, when
you find it, there's ano the worst So the iois
update's got jammed it's seventy five percent update on my phone,
and so it's just because it needs a huge amount
(09:26):
of space to do it storage, So it's just gone
like halfway th that was seventy five. I'm stuck. So
now I've got all the storage taken up by an
iOS update that ain't happening, so I can't take photos,
send you a text if if I haven't replied to
your text, I don't even know that you've text me.
It's just gone into like a some vultext. Anyway, Ed
says he's an air to the boss who and frankly
Jason the boss who's like c sweet level and absolutely
(09:49):
doesn't need to deal with this. They're all going to
have to try and help me because the iOS update
is that ad.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think there's basically a flying squad that's been assigned
to yours is okay, Yeah, I'm on Android at the moment,
so none of it's acting me. I forget.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, Anyway, they carry on like this. I'm going to
be an Android in a minute. So anyway, why I'm
telling you this is you're not going mad. Is happening
to you, and yes it's a first will problem, but
you're it's okay to be upset about a first will problem.
This is my inner dialogue at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So there are three, you know, maybe four iPhones operating
in my house at the moment, and over the weekend
I managed to update, yeah, four different ones. Two of
those were because the domestic manager was moving from an
older one to a newer one and they both had
(10:37):
to be updated for that to happen, apparently. But anyway,
it all went without a hitch. The only thing I
really got wrong is that I assume because she's quite
fast sighted so she needs the quite strong reading glasses
to read things, that she would want all the fonts
and icons to be nice and big when I set
(10:58):
it up. And then I had that wrong apparently, so
I had to sort that out for her. But yeah,
apart from everything else, it seemed to go very well.
I think the iPhone actually, when it comes from changing
from one iPhone to another iPhone, that's the easiest phone
change you can do. Take it from a guy who's
changed backwards and forwards between about ten different phones this
(11:21):
year for his tech reviews, iPhones do it the easiest.
I'll see you back here again tomorrow, hopefully this phone
will be working both men.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
For more from News Talk st B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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